The devlopers have stated they are working on "something big" in regards to the space game, and hinted with "lets just say we arent going to keep you on rails forever" Thumbs up to stop people bitching and send them back to WoW.
BioWare have revealed future plans to improve Guild functionality, and space combat for Star Wars. To what extent is unknown, and seeing as the space combat is only a side aspect I'll be over the moon at getting two full game types for the price of one. “We will continue to add missions to the space game. Director James Ohlen "We also have a special project going on right now that will expand space gameplay in a significant way…”
I just uploaded a space combat tip video. I would be happy if you left a comment and told me what you think about it. Please just take a second it can't hurt you =)
This looks like it has the best space combat i can imagine for an MMO at this point. But, I will say I am disappointed that it is not free roaming space combat. It would be cool if they were to make it like a Starwars: Battlefront 2 space battle. If they were to add PvP where you could que for Space Battles and then fight the opposing team with your allies that would make this game one of the greatest. I think that in time it will get to a point where they will allow free moving space combat.
This isn't the SWKOTOR, I remember. How ever the title might be misleading, I though it Was Knight's Of The Old Republic, this is The Old Republic... Ehh doesn't matter to me. Star wars is still awesome. However SWKOTOR2 WAS AMAZING!!!!!!! The first one was still amazing too... I wish i had my 1st one back. But still ITS AWSOME. Have a nice day.
you guys do realize its like a mini game :P it would take sooo much resources to make a actual flight sim for space combat and if they did do that they might as well jus make it the basis of the game.... jeeze you can never please anybody..
@zizzmister And it would be a huge selling point if they could do it. I for one would love this game to death if I could spend more time in space doing space fighting.
What the hell is this!? This is as unintense as it gets... Interceptors just flying past you "Oh hi there.. go ahead, shoot me down, no problem!"... >_<.... Where is the "Damn it! Can't shake him! He's on my tail!"-type of space combat?... Seriously.. fix this... NOW...
It works.. Not gonna sit here and nit pick.. Nice little arcade touch to it.. I don't think I want a full fledged space sim to worry about in this game..
@darklol261 what i meant by that was, you really don;t control your ship. You have a cross hair that you move around with your mouse and your ship just kind of follows it around in a jerky manner.
This seems the only part of the game that'll be disappointing. It looks like a tacked on arcade game. I can understand the limitations for an MMO but tbh I'd have preferred swoop racing or pazak as a side game and stuck on my old Rebel Assault for some pewpew.
Hope in later expansions they get a better system. Maybe an instance dedicated to space combat, ie a Death Starish group raid.
I honestly have no problem with what they did for space combat. I mean they put TONS of work into the planets themselves it would most likely take another 4/3 months just to make free-roam space sence the galaxy is giant.
Its annoying to see people complaining about not being able to go to their own ship and take off and then just free roam space.1. why would you want to free roam space? what is in the open blackness that you think you'll find? 2. could you imagine the servers and even the computer spec's needed to do something like that? it would ruin the game for people who cant get a great computer. and 3. where would you ship park? its a waste of time and effort to make HUGE buildings for parking like cmon
@tiimtimm 1. want to free roam space because I like the idea of it and it works great in tie fighter, xwing and xwing vs tie fighter from like 15 yrs ago, I dont know about you but thats what got me into computer games and Starwars. A. 2. Your right Eve-online does not exist and if it did there would be no way possible to make starwars 3d models to match that. can you imagine the systems they must have with their budget?
@MetalBback exactly, free roaming space would make for amazing space combat but again it owuld prevent people without an amazing computer from being able to play that part of the game, it would require a crazy good computer and ALOT of REALLY good servers if it can be done then it wont be done for awhile. i never played that game but ive always love the star wars series and ive always wanted to live in the post clone war era lol daydreaming about being a smuggler or something as a kid who hasnt?
@TonyEvans96 lol sure, and if your referring to star wars galaxies that was a flop they had huge ambitions and took a shot at it and it failed i played the game it was just bad but uk your entitled to your own opinion lol so ok
@tiimtimm SWG has one of the best fully customizable free-flight open-world engines. You can customize your own ship from engine or weapon, to paint, to texture kit. There's 11 star systems, all of which are huge. 5 which now host on-the-hour space invasions vs a nebulon-b frig and a Lancer. There's a system designated for PVP (something which TOR did not seem to grasp, so far as space), as well as a system that's especially for acing a pilot's tree. There's 3 factions, and 3 paths per faction:)
@TonyEvans96 well like i said i didnt really play SWG fully so i cant make an accurate judgement but in my opinion TOR isnt all about space combat its about story driven star wars themed elder scrolls style gameplay lol yes free roam space would be cool to an extent (it would suck getting ganked by others and losing your stuff) but the game already has ALOT packed into it and adding all of that data and engine would make ti way too much to download, still expansions to come though ;)
@tiimtimm not trying to fight, but you probably played the game in the last state, as we call it, the NGE, many players say the nge completely ruined the game, so is not really a flop.
@Ovog95 np lol its your opinion so alls good. yeah im not sure what phase i played or whar NGE stands for but i didt like it. also the biggest problem i had was my comp wasnt good enough and the game was so laggy
If they would put the effort into creating a real space sim aspect of the game for one of the first expansions, then they would be far more likely to draw in people. I doubt they will see much success doing it as Starfox: The Old Republic.
@Thedreadpirateyi i agree, when i was super excited about this aspect of the game but when i heard that the ship will move on a game controlled course and i ll be able to navigate the ship only on the screen i was so fuckin disappointed, it s like you get chocolate and your mum gives you pieces of it every 5 minutes.lame
No, I am saying that Starfox is an old game. There are .... at least a dozen real-flight space sims that I can think of off the top of my head that came out in the past 10 years that have more immersive and detailed space combat. That said: I've done quite a bit of beta testing, and the game is still awesome. I was simply hoping for much more when I heard there was going to be space combat.
Thats no space combat, that is plainest old school arcade shooter for dumbasses. Thats it? Thats almost insulting. I might reconsider buying the game just because of this.
@sadailinikada86 Sadly this is the most interesting part of the game for me so far. Space combat.. on RAILS. I'm kind of disappointed that its playing it so safe as far as sticking to the generic MMO blueprints. Personally, I've already played WoW.. got sick of it after a month. I don't want to play WoW reskinned in the Star Wars universe. :(
as much as i am excited of playing this game and that the space combat does look awesome how ever I still think they should have used the same engine for the space combat system from Galaxies but hey that's just my opinion
@flamingsmilesofdoom no they wont get sued because it is owned by Lucas arts and bio ware would have to go through them if anything Sony maybe the ones that are developed the game and ect how ever the official copy right of everything in the game is owned to Lucas Arts so yes they still could of used the same engine. but either way its going to be pretty cool
Notbad at all for a side quest missions. I gotta say though would be nice maybe as the next patch or expansion down the road to have free form space combat. Would be very cool.
@Tent316 that would be the epic thing they can do but maybe they are planning on it if the mmo survives the first half year most mmo's die within 1-3 months so yeah ... lets hope to see some free space battles :D:D
You guys are acting like the whole game is about aerial combat, when this is just side missions you can do to gain xp, instead of sitting in a city. And it's a lot better than other aerial combat in MMOs. And it's hell of a lot better than WoWs simple let the gryphon fly as you click 1 button to throw bombs off the side.
People are judging this game way to harshly. This is a side option to do other then the normal questing and yada yada. I'd rather be doing this then Archeology or using a gathering profession as a different way to level.
Hell swg is actually full flight sim not this rail system piece of crap boo swtor sucks nuts fing wow with a different skin :| cant believe they are shutting swg down for this :(
And for the idiots that keep saying this is a WoW clone, you mine as well say DCUO is a WoW clone two. Im thinking your just a dumd ass or your blind. because i don't think you can have your own starships in WoW or voice acting, you don't get to chose how your character will respond to certain situations ingame. GW2 and rift are WoW clones there exactly!! the same.. not SWTOR witch takes place in space and multiple planets. other then that.....
Every one thats talking about how boring it is, go play another MMO with space combat. if there is one...If u don't like it then don't waste your thoughts. no one fuking cares go cry to your mom about it.
@GJ231 The thing is that at beginning of SWG there was no space combat AT ALL, it all came with expansion called "Jump to Lightspeed" maybe there comes free roam system of somekind in SWTOR later..
if this rail shooter is a mini game type thing for some minor EXP gains, i could care less.... if i have to actively do space battles like this gain access to places i need to go or have them as major plot missions all the time, i am not going to like it very much. as for this being like WoW.. well... FUCK YOU, different game, similar mechanics maybe, but thats sorta how MMOs work. WoW by the way is complete garbage, looks like a 6 year old kid did the animation. and pure repetitiveness is shit
Wow what a terrible presentation with a terrible presenter. I couldn't stand listening to that extremely awkward guy talking constant bullshit. This made me even less interested in this game.
Sweet christ... The "It's in Beta!" excuse can only be used so much. The game releases in December. This is Starfox with Star Wars characters. How the fuck did SWG - an INFINITELY LESSER FUNDED MMO - afford to make a full space-sim style Flight expansion, yet Bioware craps out more On-rails combat?
Between this, the writing XML leaks with the TERRIBLE Romance dialogues, and the gameplay footage? I'm just gonna wait until the game goes F2P.
@IrisCorven Why are you hating? Star Fox was dope and besides i played SWG and no one played space combat in that game it was just another way to get around and i dont plan on playing swtor for space combat. Also, Wtf kind of video games do you play that have better dialogues then swtor??
@XmisfitX180o Umm... Kotor 1 and 2 BOTH had better dialogue than the crap that's been leaked between the closed beta and the XML leaks. The romance writing screams bad fanfiction.
Star fox was a great game. Still is. The problem is; THIS ISN'T STARFOX. IT'S STAR WARS. And I don't know what server you played SWG on, but my server had thousands of dedicated PVP Space players, as well as craftsman who literally spent ALL of their time crafting parts for said players.
@IrisCorven I would say this is about the same as KOTOR 2 and to base things off leaks etc etc is like walking into the middle of a convo and acting like you know what someones talking about. Who knows maybe they will include a open space system with this misson based one soon in some expansion but im not one that cares about space that much, in SWG i used it for transportation only.
Sigh .... I think this represents the entire situation with Star Wars. Dumbed down and lame. Once upon a time, Star Wars was actually a complex and interesting universe with an expansive selection of complex games... then Lucas decided to make the Phantom Menace and everything went to shit.
@JWLuke787 Meh, BF2 space combat was pretty crap I thought, there was no need to dogfight at all as the enemy ships were so harmless. It pretty much boiled down to taking out the targets on the capital ships. It was fun in it's own way, but for SWTOR I wanted more than BF2 offered and 10 x more than we are getting with this 'on rails shooter' shit. Keep an eye out for X-Rebirth if you enjoy space combat, although most who do will already know it's predecessor, X3 Terran Conflict.
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this sucks you dont have freedoom to fly in space you just go where you must to go and shoot that stupid ships that apears on the screen its like a game from 2000-2002 no 2011
@Chrisboxify Yeah, but they were using it to advertise the game as if it were a feature. It's only now that it looks so shite that it's been demoted to a mini-game to save face.
Its an OPTIONAL side game, you fucking cretins need to quit your bitching. If you dont like it then dont pick the missions. This is not a flight Sim game, its an MMO RPG and maybe some people like tunnel shooters ( Me being one of them) remember Starfox 64 and how awesome that game was? Im glad Bioware made space combat like this, the point is to run from an enemy chasing you like in almost every star wars space battle, you press on no matter what..o epic turns! quit your crying.
@zyxxhig The majority of SW games have been shit precisely because of people like you who buy into them no matter how bad they are. If you honestly think this space combat looks good, you need to fuck off and play console games and stay the fuck away from PC gaming. BioWare don't need to make this a good game, it will still be bought in the millions because of all the mong fucks like you who are too retarded to demand a better game.
Even the original Wing Commander (an oldie but a goodie) will be more fun to play than this. Only with a SW license would a company be capable of believing this is good enough. In fact if they took this out and replaced it with a cool looking loading screen that showed space combat it would be more enjoyable. Fanboys, you have done well to defend this turkey so far, but after watching this you really do have your work cut out. Good luck convincing anyone after watching this 'awesome' demo.
It's so awesome, it's awesome, it's going to be awesome, it's awesome, this is awesome, is this awesome, I keep saying it's awesome to reassure myself.
"We have a variety of backgrounds, a variety of places you can fight"
Because that's what I want in my space simulation game. Not a fully realized 3D environment that I can cruise around and freely pilot my ship. But slightly different fucking backgrounds for my fucking rail shooter. I'm reserving judgement for the rest of the game, but space combat done got fucked.
Wow, I had heard the space combat was crappy, but that looked soooooo boring. There is nothing to stop them taking the X3 approach with regards to space maps, not to mention combat. Moving the mouse to shoot targets, games like that were shit in the 90s, for 2011 it's the kind of thing you would expect to see in a Star Wars game, as that's the only license strong enough to make crap like this seem like good gaming. Even SW:BF2 space combat is better than this shit.
@zantetsuken2010 It does look bad. I'm dissapointed. In no way was I expecting it to be a hugely detailed tactical space SIM but somewhere between that and a basic shooter, in this day and age as you sort of put it would be ideal.
anyone feel like they should be looking for Falco when their doing this?
I still perfer Jump to Lightspeed's space setup. Kind of boring at times and then awesome at others but that's combat. I hope they change this arcade crap at some point cause it's kind of dumb...
I still perfer Jump to Lightspeed's space setup. Kind of boring at times and then awesome at others but that's combat. I hope they change this arcade crap at some point cause it's kind of dumb...
it does look fun...but I was really hoping for it to be like Jump to Lightspeed, just better. I'm going to play a smuggler, I want to board a damn ship and smuggle some wares!
@Bazaambo Actually, there can be smoke in space if there is air to fuel the fire, see smoke coming from a ship it means that they have a hull breach and are venting air.
I like the idea of a rail shooter mini-game, but i think that its going to get boring very quickly. If SWTOR actually had Battlefront 2 styled space combat with PvP, it would probably be a WoW killer.
You ungrateful bastards are lucky they're even including space combat in the initial release. Most companies would hold back on it and then release it a year later for $39.99. It's not even meant to be a major part of the game, more like a mini-game like KOTOR's turret or swoop racing. Who knows, in a future update, they may do real dog fights, not rail combat; I don't think it would be that hard to program.
@EnderGhost119 Another thing I don't understand about you whiners is why you always complaining about it looking like WoW when it looks NOTHING like WoW. These are damn good graphics for an MMO, while WoW looks like something a toddler would play.
Well... atleast it isn't "click and go"
GnomishPWN 2 weeks ago
I CAN'T LET YOU DO THAT STARFOX!
hazelXin223 1 month ago
The devlopers have stated they are working on "something big" in regards to the space game, and hinted with "lets just say we arent going to keep you on rails forever" Thumbs up to stop people bitching and send them back to WoW.
MrAnonUK 1 month ago
BioWare have revealed future plans to improve Guild functionality, and space combat for Star Wars. To what extent is unknown, and seeing as the space combat is only a side aspect I'll be over the moon at getting two full game types for the price of one. “We will continue to add missions to the space game. Director James Ohlen "We also have a special project going on right now that will expand space gameplay in a significant way…”
MrAnonUK 1 month ago
They really had to get inspiration from fucking Star Fox for a game released in late 2011? That's just embarrassing.
Dnordsmark 1 month ago
I just uploaded a space combat tip video. I would be happy if you left a comment and told me what you think about it. Please just take a second it can't hurt you =)
WeekendWannabes 1 month ago
love the games single player,,, but what the hell is this?!"£!"£!"£!"£!£!"3 : ( sad
kartikm24 1 month ago
The best thing SWTOR can do is look @ SWG's space combat system "Jump to Light Speed"
because their system was how space combat should be, free roaming not controlled.
Form a special team to redo the space combat cus it sucks...@#$%^
hahameyo 2 months ago
No cockpit view sucks for me :(
quadcorecocsukr 2 months ago
Less restrictive space combat would make this game for me. I knew they wouldn't want to try and pull it off, but they should have.
Udthinkthat 2 months ago
astroids are bad mmmkayyy
Simon4music 2 months ago
Do a barrel roll! Watch out for that asteroid field! Don't mess up that star fighter!
LtZerge 2 months ago
This looks like it has the best space combat i can imagine for an MMO at this point. But, I will say I am disappointed that it is not free roaming space combat. It would be cool if they were to make it like a Starwars: Battlefront 2 space battle. If they were to add PvP where you could que for Space Battles and then fight the opposing team with your allies that would make this game one of the greatest. I think that in time it will get to a point where they will allow free moving space combat.
natepetersl14 2 months ago
They...need...space...pvp... :D
ujigls 2 months ago
wtf is this shit
gavpac911 2 months ago
This isn't the SWKOTOR, I remember. How ever the title might be misleading, I though it Was Knight's Of The Old Republic, this is The Old Republic... Ehh doesn't matter to me. Star wars is still awesome. However SWKOTOR2 WAS AMAZING!!!!!!! The first one was still amazing too... I wish i had my 1st one back. But still ITS AWSOME. Have a nice day.
dangerscomin 2 months ago
This looks like Star Fox... I fucking love Star Fox
Kiwii156 2 months ago
you guys do realize its like a mini game :P it would take sooo much resources to make a actual flight sim for space combat and if they did do that they might as well jus make it the basis of the game.... jeeze you can never please anybody..
zizzmister 2 months ago
@zizzmister And it would be a huge selling point if they could do it. I for one would love this game to death if I could spend more time in space doing space fighting.
disasstah 2 months ago
worst space battle ever
SepiaDragoonGR 2 months ago
Space is dark.
RedHotPoo 2 months ago
do a barrel roll!
Xanice42 2 months ago 5
The traditional Rebel Assault experience, loved it.
yukoayasaki 2 months ago
What the hell is this!? This is as unintense as it gets... Interceptors just flying past you "Oh hi there.. go ahead, shoot me down, no problem!"... >_<.... Where is the "Damn it! Can't shake him! He's on my tail!"-type of space combat?... Seriously.. fix this... NOW...
Kerec 2 months ago
I loved this "minigame" in the beta :) I just always forgot to read what upgrades do I need for my ship not to fail all the time :D
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SWTORgameplaysX 3 months ago
Wow.... That's a really....crappy space flight sim... SWG at least handled much better, several ships to collect, and great customization.
MrBluedove12 3 months ago 2
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videogame60 3 months ago
It works.. Not gonna sit here and nit pick.. Nice little arcade touch to it.. I don't think I want a full fledged space sim to worry about in this game..
goldstariv 3 months ago
Looks suspiciously on rails!
savourys1980 3 months ago
@savourys1980 so? there quests, just cooler ones.
darklol261 3 months ago
i hope it will be multiplayer. space combat that is
derekgornall 3 months ago
This is a good placeholder, hopefully they will eventually release full space exploration.
JJlowro 3 months ago
So much for awesome space combat which in the end wasn't awesome at all.
mrsquaredot 3 months ago
this is a big let down :(
EricRmd 3 months ago
@EricRmd I don't really see how...
darklol261 3 months ago
@darklol261 it is a let down because you don't really have control of your ship. It plays like a flash game.
EricRmd 3 months ago
@EricRmd I haven't seen a flash game that play's like this, and anyway, it plays fine from what I have seen, more fun then it would be open world.
darklol261 3 months ago
@darklol261 what i meant by that was, you really don;t control your ship. You have a cross hair that you move around with your mouse and your ship just kind of follows it around in a jerky manner.
EricRmd 3 months ago
@EricRmd I know, still fun.
darklol261 3 months ago
wow this is pretty gay we cant move it ourselves
regergekowns 3 months ago
wow old fashion move one way space combat, expected dog fighting.
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omg I was hoping this game would be all around good, who the F would want to play in Star Wars universe on rails in space?
Any chance we could steal STO's space combat
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HumanLiveStock 3 months ago
Was kind of hoping for full control and not on-rails space combat.
deathwing107 3 months ago
Do a barrel roll!
CraZyFinN95 3 months ago
is he actualy controling how he turns or do u just have a set path and u just move with ur mouse?
videolord3 3 months ago
I want this in single !
Terran150 3 months ago
i wow u had just loading screen ...
MrSecretny 4 months ago
I'm still not really sold on SWTOR, but I have to admit that the space combat looks good.
MrMangoJoose 4 months ago
wow...strike one.
dave4king77 4 months ago
this looks so cool lol
InfoTrail 4 months ago
starfox onine xD
manwe1 4 months ago
looks alot better than SWG minius the no explaration
7lightsaber69 4 months ago
This looks way better than the Kotor space combat, which was just an annoying mini-game. Any Star Fox 64 fan will own this mini-game
MyGamer125 4 months ago
This seems the only part of the game that'll be disappointing. It looks like a tacked on arcade game. I can understand the limitations for an MMO but tbh I'd have preferred swoop racing or pazak as a side game and stuck on my old Rebel Assault for some pewpew.
Hope in later expansions they get a better system. Maybe an instance dedicated to space combat, ie a Death Starish group raid.
KesselRunner606 4 months ago
I honestly have no problem with what they did for space combat. I mean they put TONS of work into the planets themselves it would most likely take another 4/3 months just to make free-roam space sence the galaxy is giant.
zCraaZiixX 4 months ago
If they use the original music in all space battles, that'll be awesome!
MyGamer125 4 months ago
DO WANT.
Battlemaster00 4 months ago
QUALITY BIOWARE GAME MECHANICS
PauloTonBastardo 4 months ago
Shit, it's better than a mini pokemon game
btbrotherton 4 months ago
If anything the space travel and combat department should look at Eve Online for inspiration.
richoz27 4 months ago
@richoz27 i AGREE 100%
MetalBback 4 months ago
Its annoying to see people complaining about not being able to go to their own ship and take off and then just free roam space.1. why would you want to free roam space? what is in the open blackness that you think you'll find? 2. could you imagine the servers and even the computer spec's needed to do something like that? it would ruin the game for people who cant get a great computer. and 3. where would you ship park? its a waste of time and effort to make HUGE buildings for parking like cmon
tiimtimm 4 months ago
@tiimtimm 1. want to free roam space because I like the idea of it and it works great in tie fighter, xwing and xwing vs tie fighter from like 15 yrs ago, I dont know about you but thats what got me into computer games and Starwars. A. 2. Your right Eve-online does not exist and if it did there would be no way possible to make starwars 3d models to match that. can you imagine the systems they must have with their budget?
MetalBback 4 months ago
@MetalBback exactly, free roaming space would make for amazing space combat but again it owuld prevent people without an amazing computer from being able to play that part of the game, it would require a crazy good computer and ALOT of REALLY good servers if it can be done then it wont be done for awhile. i never played that game but ive always love the star wars series and ive always wanted to live in the post clone war era lol daydreaming about being a smuggler or something as a kid who hasnt?
tiimtimm 4 months ago
@tiimtimm no, and you stupid.
One word.
SWG.
TonyEvans96 4 months ago
@TonyEvans96 lol sure, and if your referring to star wars galaxies that was a flop they had huge ambitions and took a shot at it and it failed i played the game it was just bad but uk your entitled to your own opinion lol so ok
tiimtimm 4 months ago
@tiimtimm SWG has one of the best fully customizable free-flight open-world engines. You can customize your own ship from engine or weapon, to paint, to texture kit. There's 11 star systems, all of which are huge. 5 which now host on-the-hour space invasions vs a nebulon-b frig and a Lancer. There's a system designated for PVP (something which TOR did not seem to grasp, so far as space), as well as a system that's especially for acing a pilot's tree. There's 3 factions, and 3 paths per faction:)
TonyEvans96 4 months ago
@TonyEvans96 well like i said i didnt really play SWG fully so i cant make an accurate judgement but in my opinion TOR isnt all about space combat its about story driven star wars themed elder scrolls style gameplay lol yes free roam space would be cool to an extent (it would suck getting ganked by others and losing your stuff) but the game already has ALOT packed into it and adding all of that data and engine would make ti way too much to download, still expansions to come though ;)
tiimtimm 4 months ago
@tiimtimm not trying to fight, but you probably played the game in the last state, as we call it, the NGE, many players say the nge completely ruined the game, so is not really a flop.
Ovog95 4 months ago
@Ovog95 np lol its your opinion so alls good. yeah im not sure what phase i played or whar NGE stands for but i didt like it. also the biggest problem i had was my comp wasnt good enough and the game was so laggy
tiimtimm 4 months ago
If they would put the effort into creating a real space sim aspect of the game for one of the first expansions, then they would be far more likely to draw in people. I doubt they will see much success doing it as Starfox: The Old Republic.
Thedreadpirateyi 4 months ago 5
@Thedreadpirateyi starfox was my favorite game
Msiedhoff 4 months ago
@Thedreadpirateyi you know this isn't the whole game, right?
darklol261 3 months ago
@Thedreadpirateyi yeah its pretty sad... but I think this game will be great regardless of the crappy space combat
EricRmd 2 months ago
@Thedreadpirateyi i agree, when i was super excited about this aspect of the game but when i heard that the ship will move on a game controlled course and i ll be able to navigate the ship only on the screen i was so fuckin disappointed, it s like you get chocolate and your mum gives you pieces of it every 5 minutes.lame
fracture333 2 months ago
@Thedreadpirateyi
So you are saying/implicating that Starfox isn't a good game? One of my best childhood memories on the 64 is Starfox.
WolfODonnelfan 2 months ago
@WolfODonnelfan
No, I am saying that Starfox is an old game. There are .... at least a dozen real-flight space sims that I can think of off the top of my head that came out in the past 10 years that have more immersive and detailed space combat. That said: I've done quite a bit of beta testing, and the game is still awesome. I was simply hoping for much more when I heard there was going to be space combat.
Thedreadpirateyi 2 months ago
lolstarfox
Hellsing666x 4 months ago
Thats no space combat, that is plainest old school arcade shooter for dumbasses. Thats it? Thats almost insulting. I might reconsider buying the game just because of this.
sadailinikada86 4 months ago
@sadailinikada86 man it was just a gossip, made by fans. bioware said that space combat will be only a addon to real game, i remember it.
MrSecretny 4 months ago
@sadailinikada86 Sadly this is the most interesting part of the game for me so far. Space combat.. on RAILS. I'm kind of disappointed that its playing it so safe as far as sticking to the generic MMO blueprints. Personally, I've already played WoW.. got sick of it after a month. I don't want to play WoW reskinned in the Star Wars universe. :(
Joshb81959 4 months ago
@Joshb81959 I would prefer some more freedom of movement, like rogue squadron for example... But i agree on everything else you said.
sadailinikada86 4 months ago
as much as i am excited of playing this game and that the space combat does look awesome how ever I still think they should have used the same engine for the space combat system from Galaxies but hey that's just my opinion
sedgie09 4 months ago
@sedgie09 They can't. If they took the engine from another company, without proper permission, they'll get sued
flamingsmilesofdoom 3 months ago
@flamingsmilesofdoom no they wont get sued because it is owned by Lucas arts and bio ware would have to go through them if anything Sony maybe the ones that are developed the game and ect how ever the official copy right of everything in the game is owned to Lucas Arts so yes they still could of used the same engine. but either way its going to be pretty cool
sedgie09 3 months ago
suddenly i had a flashback from ratchet and clank tools of destruction
routhoula 4 months ago
For the first time in my life, I am excited for DECEMBER to come!
SaintISinner 4 months ago
Notbad at all for a side quest missions. I gotta say though would be nice maybe as the next patch or expansion down the road to have free form space combat. Would be very cool.
Tent316 4 months ago
@Tent316 that would be the epic thing they can do but maybe they are planning on it if the mmo survives the first half year most mmo's die within 1-3 months so yeah ... lets hope to see some free space battles :D:D
TheDarklion100 4 months ago
You guys are acting like the whole game is about aerial combat, when this is just side missions you can do to gain xp, instead of sitting in a city. And it's a lot better than other aerial combat in MMOs. And it's hell of a lot better than WoWs simple let the gryphon fly as you click 1 button to throw bombs off the side.
TimmyTimmyS 4 months ago
@TimmyTimmyS EXACTLY!
People are judging this game way to harshly. This is a side option to do other then the normal questing and yada yada. I'd rather be doing this then Archeology or using a gathering profession as a different way to level.
AlexShelden 4 months ago
bad...very bad....
eLeKtRo274 4 months ago
come on guys its a ''Extra Feature'' at the beginning there wheren't any plans of space combat so be happy that it is even in it!!
PurpleLightGFX 4 months ago
this is awsome?.....
you fly forward - ships fly past you - you shoot ship - profit..
i've played better free games on xbox arcade.. what the fuck
TwiXey 4 months ago
man this game looks ausome they better have gaming addicts support groups on standby when this comes out
ztharris69 4 months ago
Hell swg is actually full flight sim not this rail system piece of crap boo swtor sucks nuts fing wow with a different skin :| cant believe they are shutting swg down for this :(
MyIamamazing 4 months ago
Star wars galaxies space combat is so much better
MyIamamazing 4 months ago
@MyIamamazing a revamped glaxies way of doing things mixed with battleground 2 style gameplay would be just total ace
this is just pure arcade generic autofly 1 direction dodge shit..
seriously, how can you mess up so badly...
TwiXey 4 months ago
This game is the worst.
morag815 4 months ago
interesting way to break up the gameplay. this game is going to rock my cock off
Gellis2009 4 months ago
Don't type in search "SWTOR Gamplay/space combat" anymore if your just going to complain like 2 yr olds.
Nytellem 4 months ago
And for the idiots that keep saying this is a WoW clone, you mine as well say DCUO is a WoW clone two. Im thinking your just a dumd ass or your blind. because i don't think you can have your own starships in WoW or voice acting, you don't get to chose how your character will respond to certain situations ingame. GW2 and rift are WoW clones there exactly!! the same.. not SWTOR witch takes place in space and multiple planets. other then that.....
Nytellem 4 months ago
Every one thats talking about how boring it is, go play another MMO with space combat. if there is one...If u don't like it then don't waste your thoughts. no one fuking cares go cry to your mom about it.
Nytellem 4 months ago
@Nytellem Galaxies had a much better space combat system.
GJ231 4 months ago
@GJ231 The thing is that at beginning of SWG there was no space combat AT ALL, it all came with expansion called "Jump to Lightspeed" maybe there comes free roam system of somekind in SWTOR later..
qwerkaz 4 months ago
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Nytellem 4 months ago
holy shit... starwars galaxies owns this shit... i want my galaxies back...
Jethar2 4 months ago
if this rail shooter is a mini game type thing for some minor EXP gains, i could care less.... if i have to actively do space battles like this gain access to places i need to go or have them as major plot missions all the time, i am not going to like it very much. as for this being like WoW.. well... FUCK YOU, different game, similar mechanics maybe, but thats sorta how MMOs work. WoW by the way is complete garbage, looks like a 6 year old kid did the animation. and pure repetitiveness is shit
DJk1llsall 4 months ago
Dumb to hate on it, looks pretty cool and looking forward to it. Although I agree that a full flight sim would have been cooler as well.
Nil697 5 months ago
The only thing im afraid of... Did any of the develpoers ever play any MMO?
mikethk 5 months ago
astreoids are bad mmkay.
WoWMinGM 5 months ago 5
Wow what a terrible presentation with a terrible presenter. I couldn't stand listening to that extremely awkward guy talking constant bullshit. This made me even less interested in this game.
Alexmedkex 5 months ago
Sweet christ... The "It's in Beta!" excuse can only be used so much. The game releases in December. This is Starfox with Star Wars characters. How the fuck did SWG - an INFINITELY LESSER FUNDED MMO - afford to make a full space-sim style Flight expansion, yet Bioware craps out more On-rails combat?
Between this, the writing XML leaks with the TERRIBLE Romance dialogues, and the gameplay footage? I'm just gonna wait until the game goes F2P.
IrisCorven 5 months ago
@IrisCorven Why are you hating? Star Fox was dope and besides i played SWG and no one played space combat in that game it was just another way to get around and i dont plan on playing swtor for space combat. Also, Wtf kind of video games do you play that have better dialogues then swtor??
XmisfitX180o 5 months ago
@XmisfitX180o Umm... Kotor 1 and 2 BOTH had better dialogue than the crap that's been leaked between the closed beta and the XML leaks. The romance writing screams bad fanfiction.
Star fox was a great game. Still is. The problem is; THIS ISN'T STARFOX. IT'S STAR WARS. And I don't know what server you played SWG on, but my server had thousands of dedicated PVP Space players, as well as craftsman who literally spent ALL of their time crafting parts for said players.
IrisCorven 5 months ago
@IrisCorven I would say this is about the same as KOTOR 2 and to base things off leaks etc etc is like walking into the middle of a convo and acting like you know what someones talking about. Who knows maybe they will include a open space system with this misson based one soon in some expansion but im not one that cares about space that much, in SWG i used it for transportation only.
XmisfitX180o 5 months ago
Sigh .... I think this represents the entire situation with Star Wars. Dumbed down and lame. Once upon a time, Star Wars was actually a complex and interesting universe with an expansive selection of complex games... then Lucas decided to make the Phantom Menace and everything went to shit.
DarkTenka 5 months ago 2
Just had a flashback to pumping quarters into an Afterburner cabinet back in the arcade days.
SuulMorda 5 months ago
jesus... x-wing vs tie fighter is way better than this... and its not an mmo...
look at guild wars 2 and u'll see how shity swtor is
Bigtoasted 5 months ago
@Bigtoasted No one cares about guild wars 2 here. Don't you see this is a SWTOR video.?
manvsluxury 5 months ago
I WANT BATTLEFRONT 2 STYLE SPACE COMBAT...
JWLuke787 5 months ago
@JWLuke787 Meh, BF2 space combat was pretty crap I thought, there was no need to dogfight at all as the enemy ships were so harmless. It pretty much boiled down to taking out the targets on the capital ships. It was fun in it's own way, but for SWTOR I wanted more than BF2 offered and 10 x more than we are getting with this 'on rails shooter' shit. Keep an eye out for X-Rebirth if you enjoy space combat, although most who do will already know it's predecessor, X3 Terran Conflict.
zantetsuken2010 5 months ago
Wow...this looks so fucking simple and dumb. I could just play good old Xwing and get a more rewarding experience out of it...seriously wtf...
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RepublicDefendersTOR 5 months ago
Woah, he just put the team on his back doe.
ItzDSD 5 months ago
From the look of the galaxy map, it looks like theres going to be some expansion as far as adding new planets.
killer4hire97 5 months ago
this sucks you dont have freedoom to fly in space you just go where you must to go and shoot that stupid ships that apears on the screen its like a game from 2000-2002 no 2011
Gunzotus 5 months ago 2
@Gunzotus the game isnt meant for that retard, this is just a minigame
Chrisboxify 5 months ago
@Chrisboxify Yeah, but they were using it to advertise the game as if it were a feature. It's only now that it looks so shite that it's been demoted to a mini-game to save face.
zantetsuken2010 5 months ago
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TimmyTimmyS 4 months ago
Still pretty good space combat allot better than SWG space combat.
Godzilla52 5 months ago
@Godzilla52
Are you fucking serious?
ErileMatan 5 months ago
@ErileMatan absolutely
Godzilla52 5 months ago
@Godzilla52
Gimme a break man, how can you even compare it to this straight line shooting BS???
I mean high end space mobs were dumb in swg but not as dumb as to literally fly into your reticle sight constantly...
And the fact it had Pvp also?? And a "bit more" modifiability for equipment also, remember...??
Are you PR for Bioware by any chance? lol
ErileMatan 5 months ago
its ok since its not a main feature...the graphics amazing though
LilRussh 5 months ago
Friggin Lego Star Wars has better space combat, are you kidding me.
bgr4nd 5 months ago 4
Its an OPTIONAL side game, you fucking cretins need to quit your bitching. If you dont like it then dont pick the missions. This is not a flight Sim game, its an MMO RPG and maybe some people like tunnel shooters ( Me being one of them) remember Starfox 64 and how awesome that game was? Im glad Bioware made space combat like this, the point is to run from an enemy chasing you like in almost every star wars space battle, you press on no matter what..o epic turns! quit your crying.
zyxxhig 5 months ago
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zantetsuken2010 5 months ago
used to play something like this on my cellphone back in the 90's... I didn't like it as much as the worm game.
LightYagame100000 5 months ago 3
Even the original Wing Commander (an oldie but a goodie) will be more fun to play than this. Only with a SW license would a company be capable of believing this is good enough. In fact if they took this out and replaced it with a cool looking loading screen that showed space combat it would be more enjoyable. Fanboys, you have done well to defend this turkey so far, but after watching this you really do have your work cut out. Good luck convincing anyone after watching this 'awesome' demo.
zantetsuken2010 5 months ago
lol kermit the frog
JonathanMaraccini 5 months ago
So wait... you can't even fucking turn your fucking spaceship? You're going through some invisible tunnel in space? That's pretty underwhelming.
Varjensag 5 months ago 3
oh wow a shooter.....that like a trillion years old game play mechanic, NICE1!!!
fumanchu168 5 months ago
It's so awesome, it's awesome, it's going to be awesome, it's awesome, this is awesome, is this awesome, I keep saying it's awesome to reassure myself.
BigMoneyWann 5 months ago
"We have a variety of backgrounds, a variety of places you can fight"
Because that's what I want in my space simulation game. Not a fully realized 3D environment that I can cruise around and freely pilot my ship. But slightly different fucking backgrounds for my fucking rail shooter. I'm reserving judgement for the rest of the game, but space combat done got fucked.
themasterplan27 5 months ago
God, this looks... terrible lol. Not only is there no innovation they've actually stepped back a decade to Starfox gameplay. >_<
Covinus03 5 months ago
Oh for fucks sake, even SWG was able to do relatively good space combat. This just REEKS of laziness.
FPSDars 5 months ago
Wow, I had heard the space combat was crappy, but that looked soooooo boring. There is nothing to stop them taking the X3 approach with regards to space maps, not to mention combat. Moving the mouse to shoot targets, games like that were shit in the 90s, for 2011 it's the kind of thing you would expect to see in a Star Wars game, as that's the only license strong enough to make crap like this seem like good gaming. Even SW:BF2 space combat is better than this shit.
zantetsuken2010 5 months ago
@zantetsuken2010 It does look bad. I'm dissapointed. In no way was I expecting it to be a hugely detailed tactical space SIM but somewhere between that and a basic shooter, in this day and age as you sort of put it would be ideal.
Hellsconsort 5 months ago
anyone feel like they should be looking for Falco when their doing this?
I still perfer Jump to Lightspeed's space setup. Kind of boring at times and then awesome at others but that's combat. I hope they change this arcade crap at some point cause it's kind of dumb...
AKSnowbat907 5 months ago
I still perfer Jump to Lightspeed's space setup. Kind of boring at times and then awesome at others but that's combat. I hope they change this arcade crap at some point cause it's kind of dumb...
AKSnowbat907 5 months ago
Flashback, im playing my N64 again.
Scanini 5 months ago
it does look fun...but I was really hoping for it to be like Jump to Lightspeed, just better. I'm going to play a smuggler, I want to board a damn ship and smuggle some wares!
charbarbeepboopboop 5 months ago
that guy sounds like kermit the frog
sonic1138 6 months ago 35
this space mission looks too easy and boring
83hickey 6 months ago
in space there wouldnt be any smoke.. looks cool though
Bazaambo 6 months ago
@Bazaambo Actually, there can be smoke in space if there is air to fuel the fire, see smoke coming from a ship it means that they have a hull breach and are venting air.
EnderGhost119 6 months ago
The Great Fox has returned!
IxionVysce 6 months ago
I like the idea of a rail shooter mini-game, but i think that its going to get boring very quickly. If SWTOR actually had Battlefront 2 styled space combat with PvP, it would probably be a WoW killer.
Kenziex123 6 months ago
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Kenziex123 6 months ago
Even Ratchet and Clank had better space combat, and that's sad.
ixcaliber 6 months ago
an upgrade in the space game will likely happen in later content patches
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videosSWTOR 6 months ago
You ungrateful bastards are lucky they're even including space combat in the initial release. Most companies would hold back on it and then release it a year later for $39.99. It's not even meant to be a major part of the game, more like a mini-game like KOTOR's turret or swoop racing. Who knows, in a future update, they may do real dog fights, not rail combat; I don't think it would be that hard to program.
Whiners.
TheChuchulainn 6 months ago 9
@TheChuchulainn Oh even better, so we can get WoW with a starwars skin, AND no space combat, really grateful... I'm not buying this shit.
EnderGhost119 6 months ago
@EnderGhost119 Another thing I don't understand about you whiners is why you always complaining about it looking like WoW when it looks NOTHING like WoW. These are damn good graphics for an MMO, while WoW looks like something a toddler would play.
TheChuchulainn 6 months ago