StarCraft 2 - [T] MMM and Ghost - Strategy

[HimAgainFTW]

NERV TERRAN !!!!!! HATE THEM ( but nice vid ) your my help for every st2 game <3

[Lonegertr]

you should wall off against most opponents (maybe not TvT) because if a protoss 2 gates you, a wall off is the perfect counter

[Karabiner07]

@ForceSC2strategy I don't get you, at first you said there was no need to put the supply depot in the front as a barrier like terrans usually do, and then later like in 7:40 you said you usually want to put some kind of obstacle in you r entrance to stop the zealots and be able to shoot with the marauders from a distance

[halonone]

@Karabiner07 He didn't say there was no need, he just said it wasn't as effective to wall off against Terran or Protoss.  Secondly, walling up using a supply depot/barracks isn't quite the same as throwing a bunker down to stop an incoming force. It seems to be situational in this match though, he could have walled up at the start and it would have gone about the same. Walling up early on isn't bad though.

[Karabiner07]

@halonone oh ok, thanks for the explanation :)

[luis94289428]

Oh boy! Force´s voice...so different from the current one even though it is the same person.

[LazyKoreanBum]

1:40 he said barracks weird .__. he said bear racks...?

[markoadiaz]

@LazyKoreanBum is he british? jeje

[ngkien1530]

Can you give me the name of this map?Download link if you can :)

Thanks alot

[001nightblade]

@ngkien1530 The map is called metalopolis, It is one of the maps for ladder and you can play it in single player

[DrAldix]

Good stuff

[wirman777]

how do ya customize the subscibe button ? :)) whant to know :D Nice vdeo ^^

[AbduCola]

Why didnt he say make a 5 sec video saying, "make marauder"?

[tjv323]

@AbduCola Cause then you would complain about it not being long enough

[TheEthug]

@AbduCola haha

[TheMasoniic]

Great video ;D I haven't placed yet because im trying to get good enough to win some and these videos are really great.

[ILeagueI]

Not to bash you or anything, but a 4gate would have smashed tarson, at 5:40 when it should have came. 4 marauders and 4 marines? LOLOLLOL

[xiao53]

what if we used this strategy for terrans and zergs will it work?

[bandarakung]

@xiao53 most of the time no.. baneling will pwn the army most of the time unless you have godly marine split ! marine tank med vac ghost are better vs zerg

[eLpachuukkO]

Terran imba! LOL

[MrTheSteeze]

vespian? do you also say 'nucular strike'? :)

[MovPeristaltico]

@MrTheSteeze i think youtube allowed you to comment for a good purpose... now please make it worth the effort

[istolethiscamara]

scv worker strike now!!!!!! what do we want? PROBE PROTECTION when do we want it? NOOOOOOW

[WTEIncognito]

@istolethiscamara lol

[MinecraftPROness]

secer refinery??

[MinecraftPROness]

thumbs up if u hate zerg and scv harrassing :)

[devil19x]

can you try your strategies whit zerg enemy?? *nah just joking this might end in a zerg rush*

[Macabremalifica]

thanx for the advice. I fucking hate 4 gate. I either shut it down in 10 min, or get swarmed my stalkers

[jaytok7]

im a bronze player 1st ranked...lately all ive been playing is silver n gold players. when i play bronze players i win 90% of my games but when i play silver i only have about a %50 win rate. and all my loses come to protos i cant seem to beat a silver or higher protos player. can someone pls give me tips to improve against protos? and also why have i not been promoted yet to silver league yet??????????????

[XxTheMaster99xX]

@jaytok7 Are you on north american servers? if so we can help each other out :)

[crazypsycho69]

@jaytok7 Patience, young grasshopper. Your time will come.

[Nekro9000]

@ATangProductions get a group then right click the medvac whats so difficult about that

[malsolv]

U said dont harass and now ur killing thier workers!

[PuffyCoyote777]

Your nickname in battle.net should be "Basically" XD

[msakallioglu]

@PuffyCoyote777 lol i know.. :D.. great video though.. thx force...

[eeelliotedwards378]

Thank you so much :) I won a lot of games with this build. Against those shitty nooby protoss. Without you telling me this strategy, I would have been dead but you saved me. :) What can I do without you Mr.Force :)

[gamingfreakproductz]

where did the bunker go at 8:15 ?

[BboySTeaLthz]

@gamingfreakproductz the bunker got salvage.. after salvaging you get back minerals.

[gamingfreakproductz]

where did the barracks go at 8:15 ?

[remx435]

WOW ULTRA SETTING R AWESOME!!

[SuperSmashKing16]

Anyone remember when the thor used to have a cooldown for its 250mm Cannons? Now it has energy for some damn reason.

[elusuario989]

What a nub toss..

[anil567]

Marauder is Boss because he is Finlay

[CheyTacx3]

@howdthathappen190 Well butter my biscuit, we need to start our rebellion.

[sabuser2]

"they're just tryin' to do their job" rofl

[Whatsinmypocket]

Hey Force, can you begin a replay with a "Touch my body" Make your voice as deep and sultry as possible. Ty.

[ICHeadache]

really good stagity, might help me alot better in battle have been bad at playing but seeing this might help thx. other than that good job with vid.

[washaway]

there's really no reason to harass these SCV's their just trying to do their job, make a living, ya know.

[bumshka21]

Just a tip for the videomaker:  You seldom mention getting Concussive Shells for Marauders, so any lower-level prospective users of your strategy will likely overlook that upgrade - which i quite critical. Just a note*

[1313Travis1313]

This game would of been closer if terran attacked 5 seconds later, seeing as a collossus just came out when terran attacked

[SIX1NINEKING]

i wonder if ghost are hispanic people, makes since since we can sneak past the border and once in we can do masive damage! but once they discover us we get fucked! Lol

[TheGamingAsylum]

@SIX1NINEKING That would make sense but ghosts cost to much

[SIX1NINEKING]

@TheGamingAsylum lmfao hence all these bills getting passed so we can work and what not so it must be true lmao

[some1iknow1]

Guys, remember SC1 where the only black guy was an SCV? lol

[Zeroblack9999]

omg its aTnSocke

[GhostlandsGoDs]

can anyone type out the build order for me?

[Dexosour]

Damnit, when it said base is under attack @ 8:06 I was clicking on screen. lol!

[bart2204flames2204]

@Dexosour LOL ME TOOO :D

[axlerate99]

@Dexosour One of the effects of HD

[sasori01]

Please vote for SC2 in g4tv, that is all XD

[Ultoman10]

what map is this???

[DerOrk]

@Ultoman10 Metalopolos???

[AirJordanNate]

what does SCV stand for again?

[pirateking83]

@AirJordanNate space construction vehicle

[AirJordanNate]

@pirateking83

oh cool thanks!

[BlumpkinToGo]

Ghosts are so underused.

[WarThemedRevolution]

@BlumpkinToGo They are hard to manage. Energy-based troops require more micro.

[Lm3ntz]

@BlumpkinToGo not when I'm playing :D I love that unit...

[cseijif]

@BlumpkinToGo hard as fuck to get and use properly, is mroe easy and comon to use vikings or siege tanks or just zomibe out MMM

[RetributionLife]

@BlumpkinToGo I use ghost vs protoss 100%, but vs zerg I don't find a use for them except for nuking expansions

[xXhalofan21Xx]

@BlumpkinToGo yeah and they murk stuff if they dont have a detector

[NotheFoe]

@BlumpkinToGo But they can go and nuke the enemy! That is fun to do.

[ethanplg]

damn. nice vid.

[deadm4u]

damn i have to wash the video 2 times to see everything that you did, i just get lost after the ghost came out. nice

[wierdo5000]

i love your voice.

[paul0813]

SHit replay by TARSOOOON!!!! YEAH

[OCOMp1anomiles]

When dropping, should I focus on the robo facility itself or the pylon(s) powering it?



[tommybaterista]

@OCOMp1anomiles if you wanna handicap him, pylons, if you wanna end the game, everything xD

[SubconsciousAwaken]

5:34-5:43 Flying Factory. Good Tip. Zealots are nasty beasts.

[MARV361theSTAR]

lol seriously, factory for scoutung??? 150minerals and 100 gas instead of a 50 50 reaper? -.- and why didn't u bring ghosts eralier? + ur opponent was pretty bad, but there were some nice multiple front war by u

[AssaultCrusader]

@MARV361theSTAR He never needed the factory but it was required to tech up so he just used it for scouting.

[benkim13]

@MARV361theSTAR you need a factory for a nuke

[eunderbrink13]

I love SGC 2 players. Arguing about the wages of SCVs? Indeed.

[2006impreza]

man i like playing sc2 but hate losing so i LOVE watching these vids cuz whoever he reviews always wins and its like informative and relaxing..... :)

[broodm]

terran player is pretty good

[TheCatGuru49]

What map is this?

[JonkaPlonka]

woot for starcraft!

[TheRoyce1999]

I want this game so bad.

[DgtullSypho]

@TheRoyce1999

Get it

[Ciemon]

Poor SCVs..

[ThousandYearsOfBlood]

could you tell me how to counter mass marine with terran, terran, zerg

[Animalwithin65]

There is no need to harasses the SCVs thery're just trying to do there job....hahaha

[creamfortress]

You idiots, this dude knows it's a protoss he's playing against and also that he scouted a 4 gate-ish build. No need to change the build into some void ray defense, my god.

[oxidize3]

what is this map??

[FaecalEncephalopathy]

@oxidize3 Metalopolis.

[PewLaz0rZ]

lol SCV's being minimum wage workers never

[TheMastahBlastah]

Minimum wage worker of the Terran Army is the Marine.

They're all convicts, if they survive, they are freed. no money involved.

[shoefrmperu]

@TheMastahBlastah but minimum wage means they get payed

if theres no money involved, then its not a wage

[TheMastahBlastah]

@shoefrmperu

also implying anyone in the terran army gets paid. Under Mengsk... I'd say they're all forced, really.

[DodsonHere]

C'mon man. The SCV's never hurt nobody.

[ASGStudios]

the bearaxe.

[BUCKSHOTSss]

u guys are really cocky with your responses.....

[ENDY238]

Whoa

And what if we woud proxy a stargate?

what woud you do with mm when u have voidrays in your mineral lineS?

[armagedoc66]

@ENDY238 hmm.the answer is simple.they would do a better strategy that can beat your time wasting strategy.

[MARV361theSTAR]

lol i've already played like 100 matches as terran but i didN't know that marauders can get in bunkers lol

[scoobiesmackies]

scoobiesmackies@gmx.de

pls add me on lockerz  >FWB<... thx

[MrHankkey93]

@smokedXyourXmum piece of shit troll shit

[redrooster241]

@MrHankkey93 wahts a troll

[MrHankkey93]

@redrooster241 go to verydemotivational . com :S

LEARN MY SON

[redrooster241]

@MrHankkey93 i already know what it is. I AM PROUD SON

[theunraveler]

this terran guy will be really vulnerable to a zergling rush...

[GTXJason]

@theunraveler

...

But it's TvP.

[theunraveler]

@GTXJason i know...just saying

[nightmarelol1]

What does MMM mean? lol

[KevinBuis]

@nightmarelol1 Marine Maraurder Medivac abbreviation

[am0ney916]

question: how would you deal with void rays with this build??



[ItzKeXy]

@am0ney916 Shoot them with your marines

[justdidthistocommen1]

would you say that the ghost emp ability can be used against any protoss build or just a gateway build.

[scoobiesmackies]

scoobiesmackies@gmx.de

pls add me on lockerz  >FWB<... thx

[Numanore]

You must contruct additional pylons to understand it's a fucking game!

[LuckieH]

people don't understand that walling is not required when not facing zerg... most pros don't wall off.

[justdidthistocommen1]

@LuckieH well yea but thats because most pro zerg players also know that their pro level opponents can deal with a rush. On the other hand walling is pretty useful against low level zerg opponents who basically rely on the rush. So for players who either cant or dont want to deal with the rush the wall is a good plan, also it blocks early scouting as we all know which can be useful if u plan to finish the game early like i normally try to do.

[howdthathappen190]

Glad you're giving props to the low wage workers. The SCV's need a union to get the respect they deserve.

Minimum wage jobs sustain poverty. We need to defend good middle class jobs and how they relate to the healthiness of our communities. Even within the SC community.

[Jaxxdude]

@howdthathappen190 Well said... well said my friend.

[OopsYouFailed]

I'm no pro but, why using a factory to scout while you have an orbital command?

[KamaliiGsr]

@OopsYouFailed probably so he can call a mule instead.

[YangsterRox]

@OopsYouFailed Probably because he needed that extra MULE to ensure he was on steady minerals and didn't need any factory units either. But then again in late game, that factory might've been needed again.

[littlefrogJr]

put the production tab on

[JerryV06]

You actually wanna take out the pylons first, then the workers, being that once you take out the pylons theres no more reinforcements, and then you attack the probes to get the supply out also. He'll have to waste money on building more workers but with so much supply of the army it'll have to be loosing the army first.

[canabiz101]

thats a sweet micro

[valentin6li]

Force ... I'm a protoss / terran player and I still don't understand why walling off is not a good idea against a protoss player ... it IS most effective against zerg but you can still hold back and choke block your protoss enemy in the ramp ... as toss vs toss, should you block your ramp?

[KamaliiGsr]

@valentin6li 1 minute in game a single marauder can defend your front door just as good. better since he can shoot at stuff. against zerg theres no time to upgrade conc shell before the first rush.

[Tendorusyuna]

I love this game, but I am not a skillful player. I enjoy this game even just simply playing with my friends (lose most of the time) and play with NPC. I enjoy watch this strategy play upload by ForceSC2stratgy, I might not be able to do what he teaches through his videos but I just enjoy watching him play and explain.

[Tendorusyuna]

SCV gets mini pay, don't attack them, they just do their jobs, LOL

[JamminFingers]

I really appreciate these videos man, this game is great. I love being able to have a weaker army but still out wit and beat your opponent. it's not like, omg I have a better gun then you, therefore I win.

Thanks again, man. +Sub

[isparedes]

what does mmm mean?

[solol]

@isparedes he says it in the beginning, marine-marauader-medivac

[nomihc36]

Would killing the ghosts with high templar feedback be viable?

[PineappleJaguar]

I spit out a mouthful of cereal @ 2:10 laughing so hard

ah now I have to clean this up XD

[SC2ish]

Sock not socky :P

[kalorful]

thanks for the video! very helpful for a SC2 newb like me

[1990Freddiemercury]

do u play warcraft to =P

[MrBunny115]

Hello, I like your videos, i would like to be your friend.

[HoboCabbage]

oh i see... youre racist! yea its ok to attack the protoss race minimum wage workers... but god forbid a protoss unit attacks an scv... pfft what a double standard. :P lol

[nounnyvan]

thanx a lot

[poloptree]

Love this strategy, i love micro managing support troops to maximise the effectiveness of a small group. Its like having elite forces

[TheDeltaHawk]

get a ghost, then research nuke, then aim it at enemy. MW2craft

[WikitronNinja]

@TheDeltaHawk A ten kill streak allows snipers to use invisibility and EMPs.

[TheDeltaHawk]

@WikitronNinja i know, i kill their rushing people, and they act like they dont know what a ghost is...then target heir mineral line

[Joel935M]

@TheDeltaHawk Haha I played a 3v3 league game with 2 mates and I built 20 ghost academies all with nukes and 10 ghosts all cloaked and just destroyed the enemy with them triple nuke on the Command centers and nexus :D

[mohedd]

video is a month old so i assusme the strategies and player skill levels have changed. The guy basicly went MMM and added a single ghost. terran T1 > protoss T1 so i don't see why ForceSC2strategy was commenting as if the terran player was at a disadvantage the whole game... infact is had an army that completely countered the protoss... and as a BONUS he added in a single ghost which frankly wasn't needed because his skill level was 100X that of the protoss player macro and micro wise

[christivie121]

I feel the pain the zealots receives... xD U feel it when they cry

[HitDeezNuts]

Iron Mb, the secret to beating terran players since my rec is 300-100 somethin and im rank 2 1v1, is banshees. Cloaked banshees wit a 8 rine vac drop at 7 minutes will FUK up a terran play bad. It usually wont kill em but by time they kill that force theyll only have maybe 6 rines and 3 rauders while u have 12 rines 2 more banshees 2 vacs and a tank ^_^

[HitDeezNuts]

im a rank 2 1v1 diamond player and a rank 1 2v2 diamond player. Trust me this strat sux because if that toss was good, he would get colossus and rip u to shreds. i like how he got rauders out fast wit concussive cause its what i do against toss players but he needs one more rax and USE THE FACTORY. Tanks still rule man pin that motherfucker and dont let him expand. and FYI, that was the slowest maruader rine vac rush ive ever seen... cmon man 12 minute hit... But yes, ghost rape toss in the ass

[svenssonftw]

very good video, I've been a bit confused how I should use the ghost. Especially for a newbie silver player as myself tips like this is very useful. Keep it up!

[ironmb86]

Um i love your vids man, and i'm diamond league... record is like 40wins 20 losses... im having lots of trouble with TvT.. if you have any vids to help please upload thanks.

[goldsmash9]

@ironmb86 seige tank will normally help you. get some missile turrets to defend yourself against cloak banshees if you see him teching for banshees. if he doesnt have any detectors or turrets jus harass with banshees or do a medivac drop. if he gets mass marauders you get more marines cos marines beat marauders and if he has lots of marines get seige tanks cos they one hit ko marines.jus out macro your opponent and you win

[altf4nubs]

Horrible Protoss player

[heirofskil]

Why not wall off?

[GsBBoyDan]

MMMG - the only thing you'll ever need to win TvP.

NOW PLEASE SHOW US HOW PROTOSS CAN COUNTER IT!

And don't say void rays or out macro.

[ZephyronWar]

@GsBBoyDan use void rays and out macro him :P

[PridefulMe]

@GsBBoyDan

Colossi and High Templar (Psy Storm) are effective. Watch out for Vikings and Hellions, though.

[zabuzafan101]

Hey Force, i got a question for you, is it a possibility to replace one of the supply depots with a bunker after the barracks is finished against protoss players? then getting a tech lab and marauder and 2 marines in it? maby a scv with auto repair down there to ward off early agression, and that seems to take care of the stalker range problem. tell me, what do you think

[lolgetraped]

you should write the build orders for your older videos

[cheeseballheaven]

Awesome vids, keep it up.

[Executor009]

im going to sue that probe to the scv workers union the SWU.