United 232 Crash Sioux City

[alexandremanbr]

landing on water would have killed some of the survivors too. the landing was a complete success as said roosevelthighschool

[madpetersen]

I have 4 friends that were on that flight that crashed and they all survived. They were seated in row 13.

[roosevelthighschool]

Who's that voice I hear? Is that the pilot I'm hearing?

[Pakamen1]

I was thinking of the lakes but I guess that answers my question, thanks.

[Pakamen1]

I never understood why they didn't divert that flight to land on water.

[vicorly]

@Pakamen1 They were flying from Denver to Chicago. Not much open water in that part of the country (they weren't anywhere close to Chicago, so the Great Lakes were not in range).

[SSedmak]

@Pakamen1 Everyone would have probably died if they "landed" on water. Instead, almost 2/3 survived.

Captain Sully's landing on the Hudson river was noteworthy because everyone lived - that's not what usually happens. Even if you survive the crash landing on water, you are probably unconscious and underwater.

[ozzymandias85]

@Pakamen1 Hitting water at that speed is worse, plus you end up drowning everyone.

[58biggles]

@Pakamen1 Are you for real??

[Pakamen1]

@58biggles If you are asking if my question was intended to be sincere, the answers yes. But as you can see, I have received some very intelligent answers. Thank you.

[GleeDancer3214]

@Pakamen1 The only water there is the Missouri

[ibagli]

@Pakamen1 A plane will still blow up when it hits water wrong. There just won't be fire engines or a safe place for the survivors to go.

[SonSan96]

@Pakamen1 It's way more dangerous to land on water, especially with no hydraulics like this flight.

[craigdragon17]

I knew a guy who survived this. He was seated in the tail of the DC-10. He was a teacher at the school I was at and my elective was pilot class. He never liked staying for the lecture and I certainly can't blame him. I miss you man, hope to see you again!!

[joshrules1414]

Watching that video i find it hard to relize that someone that im kin to was the captin in that plane.

[vicorly]

@joshrules1414 You're related to Al Haynes?

[REALDEATH4444]

@vicorly my name is Dale Haynes and idk if im related to the pilot id like to know if i am or not

[vicorly]

@krgrubbs No need to curse throughout your post, so I'm deleting it.

[MrSheepman646]

Venckman, don't forget Denny fitch, who worked the throttles

[MrSheepman646]

It would be practically impossible to land a ruined DC-10 in one piece. Even if it did touch down ok, it'd still overrun the runway

[BusterBrown39]

@kikidee31 ... to compare this to United 93 is dumb. Lots of other aircraft crash into preety much nothing. Ohh well guess Im just one of those that hasn't watched Loose Change.... ohh yeah they have a witness to the Pentagon crash on there saying it looked like a missle. Too bad the whole sound bite before the part the "truthers' used has him say it was clearly an airplane.

[DJBuckCallYo]

RIP

[francobobfred]

O_o

[kikidee31]

see- thats what it looks like when a plane crashes! not like the site of flight 93 in shanksville

[MyleneJ]

@kikidee31 you sir, are an ass.

[LIVElifeLOVErock]

@MyleneJ Well, he has a point. Too many parts on a plane to be "incinerated" to the point where its not recognizable.

[kidyubyub]

@kikidee31 If you spent money on that physics degree, get a refund.

[wheatvitamin]

@kikidee31  The people on Flight 93 had no pilot training. All they wanted to do was make sure other innocent people didn't lose their lives too. They hit the ground upside down at God only knows how many MPH. Flight 232 was being flown by actual pilots who were trying to land the plane as safely as possible. Of course the crash sites are going to look different. Flight 232 wasn't going near the speed of Flight 93 at the point of impact.

[Rockeroviejo]

It´s hard to believe that some people actually made it alive from this accident...God Bless!

[Jackal2286]

I've heard a lot of air disaster black box recordings on youtube and that "PULL UP! PULL UP!" computer voice kinda freaks me out.

[dudeimamudkip]

"GAH!"

"We're goin' down, buddy." "I KNOW!"

Do you really think the people weren't trying if they were panicking like that? People don't just crash planes and NOT panic like that. Use some common sense. Jeez, people.

[imsscott]

I know someone who was on that flight who was a hero who pulled people off. He would get upset if anybody ever brought it up.

[roosevelthighschool]

I sure as hell would hate to have been there in person.

[gojewla]

I remember when I watched this on the news when it happened. I was amazed that anyone walked away from that giant fireball, much less more than half the people on the plane.

[Venckman]

God bless Al Haynes and his wonderful crew. They saved many, many lives with their skill, professionalism, and courage.

[hornetgags]

I remember watching the film about this crash starring Charlton Heston, James Coburn and JohnBoy from The Waltons.

[pjicleanair420]

a plane without hydraulics is the worst possible scenario

[3ISAMAGICNUMBR]

R.I.P.

[imaniguana]

I worked with a guy that was on this plane and he survived. He's been interviewed on a lot of these crash investigation shows. We worked in the aircraft industry, and he pretty much knew what the failure was when he heard the hydraulic pumps sucking air. We're all glad he made it. . . physically. Emotionally, is another story. Poor guy.

[cdngal75]

I remember having to fly a few days after this crash. I am terrified of flying now, but I would fly with these heroic pilots any day. They saved countless lives that day.

[748cowboy]

i could have done it better

[JISINSANE3]

left left left left left left, WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP, GRAA!

[1982FMJ]

the pilots and the dc10 instructor who helped suffered years of of trauma form this along with the people onboard. THe only way they got over the trauma is too just accept that it happened no matter how bad it seemed and what you might of been able to do differently. THey'll all be feeling it for a long time sadly

[GuerraMexico]

To smartbart66 your an idiot

[smartbart66]

The pilots did a really good job in a tough situation, although saying that I'd have probably done a bit better, but 9/10 from me

[KSharp320]

@smartbart66 ahh trolls. so easy to weed out

[roosevelthighschool]

Was anybody hurt or killed?

[vicorly]

@roosevelthighschool 112 fatalities of the 285 on board. Search Wikipedia for "United 232".

[beernpizzalover]

@roosevelthighschool You're an idiot.

[KSharp320]

@roosevelthighschool seriously? did u even watch the video???

[Rabooie]

@roosevelthighschool No. The landing was a complete success.

[jaikwillis]

my friend Ben was on this flight as a young child traveling alone for the first time, they found him hanging in his seat upside down in a VW sized chunk of plane 100 yards away totally unharmed

[TheSimonHarris]

@jaikwillis crazy, thats like unbreakable of something

[DazW1970]

Denny Fitch, a DC10 Training Pilot, sitting in First Class came into the cockpit, kneeling between the pilots to operate the engine throttles to keep the wings level and head for Sioux City. Knowing that the plane was apporoaching the runway 100kph faster than it should and dropping out of the sky 6 times faster than usual, he crucially overruled the captain who called for the engines to be cut out shortly before impact, saying, 'I can't shut 'em off, that's what's turning you!' This saved lives

[hwyfan]

They owe their survival in part to cockpit resource management, whereby everyone in the cockpit had a say on what to do. Prior to 1980, when CRM was introduced, the captain had the sole decision making authority.

That had contributed to some nasty crashes, such as the 1977 Tenerife crash, where the KLM captain van Zanten insisted on taking off into the fog without authorization, no one in the cockpit could question his decision.

Here, the men in the cockpit worked as a team and together

[BNM8819]

ya steering with the throttles thats a feat it took everyone on the flight deck + a pilot that was just hitching a ride to land it well sorta still a amazing feat that not as many were killed but RIP to those that perished but the pilots performed awesomely.

[22rawrrawr]

they could only turn left i watched the movie in like 6th grade i remember lol and when they were there the pilots were like when this is all over lets go to the bar and have a beer

[retroguy1976]

the pilots did a great job and saved a lot of lives just like that us air plane that went down in thye hudson but its a shame the pilots didn't get the recongnition like Sully did being at the super bowl and obamas inaguration

[julesjones423]

The pilots did an amazing job in spite of the peril they were in. Imagine trying to steer a car at high speed using only the accelerator. That's what the pilots had to do. It was a shame that 111 didn't survive, but the fact that 184 did in the situation they were in shows the skill of the pilots.

[Timbrock1000]

I remember when this happened. The flight took off from Denver's STAPELTON Intl. Airport. In mid flight, the engine under the stablzer (tail) exploded, resulting in damage to the plane's hydrolic system which controled the wing & stablizer flaps. Unable to steer the plane, the pilots had to increase/decrease engine power to the right & bleft engines to turn. GREAT JOB PILOTS!!

[InsaneChris143]

I'm reading a book on this plane crash, and apparently, one of the engines exploded and took out all hydraulic controls, even the other two backup systems. The pilot had to turn the plane by adjusting the thrust of the remaining two engines. The book describes this method of controling the plane as driving a formula 1 racecar down pikes peak mountain at 14,115 feet and opening and closing the doors to steer. From what I've seen, and read, the pilot did a damn good job.

[London36349]

How can you call that a bad job, their were 73 more Survivours than the deaths

[ZQPYU]

This was the most successful plane landing in the history of civil aviation, given the difficulties the crew had before them. Out of 286 passengers and 11 crew members, 174 and 10 survived, respectively. The NTSB ultimately found that the chances of getting this plane, with complete hydraulic failure, to the airport, much less, close to even approaching a runway, was less than 1%. Team work and professionalism gave everyone on-board a chance. RIP those who didn't make it...

go 2 Tailstrike

[shitmypants119]

I love all the name calling on youtube, its like 3rd grade or something? Yes the pilots did a great job considering they could barely control the son of bitch!!!

[rocketinthesky]

the jet lost an engine and hydraulic pressure to the controls you dumb fuck

[steveo1622]

stormmont,what a twat.The pilots did an incredible job to get it to the airport.I still can't believe people walked away from this

[KSharp320]

@steveo1622 It will forever be a benchmark in CRM courses all over the world. Teamwork was truly defined that sad day, however, it was the crew working together in cool, collective harmony that saved the 173 passengers that live to tell their story.

[KSharp320]

@steveo1622 One of the finest examples of CRM you will ever witness

[krgrubbs]

@KSharp320 CRM?

[KSharp320]

@krgrubbs Crew Resource Management. Pilot's version of cockpit teamwork.

[LawrenceErnie]

Troll.