I've never been a fan of Never Say Die but I think I would have loved it if Dave Walker sang on it. This version just rocks so hard. Too bad we'll never know what could have been.
Does anyone have the video footage of Sabbath w/ Dave Walker on the BBC "Look Hear" show from 1-6-78? The video does exist. Been looking for it for years. Thanks
Interesting. He reminds me a bit of james dewar. this song had possibilities but was ruined by the recording and production on that album. sounds heavier here.
@ASR10MAN I think the reason the lyrics are different is because they hed Dave Walker on this instead of Ozzy. So maybe Dave used his own lyrics instead of Geezer's. The patterning and melody he's using is different too. And they DON'T suck. He's got a great voice and adds his own style to the song.
@coreeeey420 the lyrics are different because Walker, Geezer and Im assuming Tony wrote this; don't forget they thought Ozzy was gone at this point in time and they were working on a new album but, as we all know, Ozzy rejoined and refused to use ANY lyrics written with Walker. So Ozzy and Geezer mustve wrote the lyrics in a tribute for his father.
@MyNiggaDose It's still killer, no matter what. I wish they had some more with Dave, as well as some recordings with the other Dave (Donato). That would be sweeeeeeeeeet..... I know there are Ray Gillan recordings available.
Besides, to complain about that is ironic considering how many people misquote Sabbath and Ozzy lyrics. I mean if they can't hear supposedly audible lyrics correctly, then does it really matter if these are inaudible?
There's plenty of other Sabbath bootlegs with inaudible lyrics that are still relatively worthwhile to listen to...specifically some of the early 1970 shows, when they played songs with different lyrics.
@blacksabfan Sometimes bands purposely keep lyrics inaudible. Example, on Led Zeppelin's Carouselambra you can't understand the lyrics but on All My Love the words are perfectly clear. I think it's a way to sell more records. Yeah, I like listening to early versions of Sab songs with different lyrics, like War Pigs and Killing Youself To Live.
The lyrics are perfectly audible on Carouselambra. What the hell are you talking about?
The only reason the the sound isn't that clear here is the quality of the recording, that's it. Even still, parts of it can be made out. Any band that takes the time to write real lyrics isn't going to keep them inaudible. That doesn't even make sense.
@blacksabfan I'm not making this up, give Carouselambra another listen. I've read that Robert's vocals were mixed so deeply into the magma of the song that the words were unintelligible and that they were made purposely clear on All My Love. The song Burning Down One Side from Robert's solo career is inaudible too.
So that's why I can google "Carouselambra", and find the full lyrics of the song and read them and realize that they make complete sense. Nevermind that I actually took the time to put the song on myself before my last reply and could clearly make them out.
Now let's not be putting words in my mouth. I never said I know more than Zeppelin does, I just think you're mistaken. If you read it somewhere, I suppose you would be willing to tell me where you read it, that way I can find it myself.
Or, is this one of those situations where someone says they read something somewhere once upon a time and then they disappear when they are challenged on it and/or proven wrong? Many Sabbath fans pull that crap all the time.
Good book. The surviving members of Zeppelin don't particularly like it. They say it's ludicrous and was written by someone they never knew. When you read the book though, you get the feeling that the author (Stephen Davis) did his homework and speaks the truth. My opinion it that it's real and that the band just doesn't like the truth coming out. Check it out and form your own opinion. Either way it's a very good read.
Am I alone in thinking that "Never Say Die!" would have been a MUCH better album with this line up? (Obviously, sound quality aside) This is a better version of Juniors Eyes.
Sounds awesome. I think Ozzy fan boys need to be more open minded. Before you say oh fuck you or anything I love the first 6 Sabbath Albums. But they were writing music that required a different vocal style at this time. Ozzy was good but he can only sing so much that's also part of the charm of Sabbath. But I'm more a fan of the riffs more then the vocals.
Interesting, but awful....I doubt this version is called "Junior's Eyes". The album recording kills this garbage..... Not even in the the same league..
It's Live from a TV show, you fucking idiot. It's not the "quality" that is of importance in this case, it's the fact that it's rare as FUCK. Thanks for douching it up, MORON.
This is a cool thing to hear - I like Sabbath and I also like Dave Walker (Savoy Brown and the Dave Walker Band.) While I agree that his vocal style doesn't really match Sabbath's music (blues-rock rather than heavy metal), it's still cool to hear.
Really cool to have heard this version--would like to see their appearance on the show. Honestly, the Ozzy version is so much better...one of THE best tracks on this weakest of all Sab albums (Never Say Die'). The lyrics were written about Ozzy's dad Jack who had recently passed on. Ozzy's emotional vocals put it over the top. 'Technical Ecstasy' was the last strong Sabbath album--with 'Sabotage' being my personal fave of the Ozzy era...
This guy has some serious Soul, holy freaking Shit, too bad they never did an album together, I have never heard Dave Walker before, I think he sounds great!
@MrTraceMan Walker had recorded with a number of bands since the 1960s, most notably a stint with Savoy Brown for a trio of LPs in 1971 - 1972 ("Street Corner Talking", "Hellbound Train" and "Lion's Share"), and a brief stint with Fleetwood Mac (two songs, "The Derelict" and "I'm A Roadrunner", off their "Penguin" LP, 1973). This was sort of a turbulent period for the guy... he wasn't able to record with anybody through the rest of the decade and runs solo now.
@1906aldo how can you say that? the sound is shit and you can't even hear what he's saying! now compare this to Wishing Well and tell me whos better,.
@SabbraCadabra789 Yes, the sound is shit but its techical problem.It has nothing to do with his singing.I personaly like deep,bluesy voices like this.And Dave Walker really is much better singing Ozzy-era songs than Dio.I mean...this was recorded on some crap but still i really enjoyed listening to this.I enjoyed it more than I enjoy listening Dio ruinning/singing Paranoid
My uncle was best friends with him and when he passed away I went over to were my uncle lived (I'm not giving out where he lives) and when ever I go there I get to meet this guy. I actually smoked some weed with him and watched some soccer with him. I was there just this summer.
I loved Black Sabbath with Dave Walker, Gillan, Dio, Tony Martin (for me, the best one), Hugges and Halford. Love them all! And, of course, Ozzy Osboune as well!
The Dave Walker Band just released a new CD "Crazy All the Time" he sounds better than ever.
Dave will be releasng a weekly blog wth stories
When Dave was with the Idle Race (where he replaced Jeff Lynne) he would hang out at the Rum Runner and The Cedar Club in Birmingham, Tony and the boys from Sabbath would hang there too. Bonzo and Plant. also frequented those places, Bonzo was Dave's drinking Buddy. Dave's friendship with Sabbath goes way back and he genuinely likes them all.
I bet Dave and Sabbath had a chuckle after trying it out, all involved are great but together not so much. For those that are into Sabbath and haven't yet checked out Savoy Brown, in any early version up to the mid 70's, should do so. Savoy was the only bad with heavy enough subject matter to have been an influence on Sab. Though Dave would have been after Sab had made their mark. Anyway, DAve wasn't a fit here but he wailed on Savoy Brown.
I am *so* glad they did not pick this guy to sing. It basically means Sabbath would have started sucking in 1978 instead of 1985! ha ha... We'd have 5 or 6 fewer years of good Sabbath! I like Ozzy, I like Dio, Ian Gillan- Hell, I'll even tolerate some Tony Martin or Ray Gillen stuff- but *this* guy blows dead donkey dicks. Fact.
when i 1st. heard this i was like WTF but i just keep on coming back to this video and now i think their should've been more stuff from this line-up. but anyway can anyone please upload war pigs by this line-up i'd like to hear it
I like this version. I like that Dave Walker sang it first. I like even more that the version on the official album is Ozzy and is also one of my 'guilty secret' favourite Black Sabbath tracks.
completely incoherent...he's not even forming words as opposed to growling. It's pretty bad when the majority of the song is music and it's not even an instrumental. good thing ozzy's vocals turned this into a good song...with his extremely coherent vocals (as usual)
And lets be real as much as I hate Ozzies kids and the commercial he has become, the rest of BS is damn lucky he is so forgiving. After all the shit they pulled on him(specially Tony) back in the 70s. Can anyone keep track of how many times Ozzy has saved their careers? And when he cant do it Dio does.
the cat hat was an insult to those who didnt like the idea of an american in the band! and for those who dont know caterpillar is a major american engine and heavy equipment company
To be fair I think he did an okay job of what was obviously a pretty hard task. It not that unlike what was to follow with Dio at the helm. Okay its not Ozzy but who is? And it can never be called a cover, it is the original version,like it or not>
lol You know, I understand that people like Ozzy.. he is the original Sabbath singer... that said, this guy Dave Walker can out sing Ozzy any day of the week. He can step in anywhere and do the job, Ozzy is well Ozzy.. he could never perform anyone elses music cause he's a terrible singer. lol Try imagining Ozzy singing Sign of the Southern Cross for instance :P
samhain1957: "Try imagining Ozzy singing Sign of the Southern Cross for instance"
Believe me my friend it cannot be worse than the butcher job this guy did on a classic Sab song. BTW that is why ozzy doesn't sing other peoples stuff... because he is a one of a kind.
Dave is not even trying to be true to the essence of the original song. He is changing the melody and skipping the chorus all together. It is undefendable! In this instance he is pathetic. It doesnt matter what else he has done.
"Dave is not even rying to be true to the essence of the original song?"
In all fairness, Dave Walker sang the ORIGINAL song. This version was done on TV in January 1978...before Ozzy ever attempted it...before Never Say Die was done.
Ozzy does way better, but lets be fair. This isn't a cover...Walker sang it with Sabbath first.
@blacksabfan they had a problem with Walker that his vocals were not able to be understood. his style of singing didnt fit with Sabbath. Later when Ozzy returned they rewrote the words as a tribute to Ozzys father Jack who had just passed away. So the song was completely changed to a tribute to Jack Osbourne.
That pointless explanation aside, it's still not a cover. That was your original argument, was it not?
Also, that part about Walker not being understood is crap. The only reason you can't here is the quality of the tape. I'd love to see any source where you got that tidbit of information...not that I expect to...
@blacksabfan Refer to the book, Black Sabbath: Doom let Loose, by Martin Popoff. Chapter 9 pages 142-43 to be exact for even more info on Walker and his Sabbath days. And no its not a cover, Ozzy refused to sing any lyrics written for Walker so when they re-recorded this song it was done as tribute to Oz dad.
@kortick50 Yes, you weren't the guy that was claiming this as a cover. Fair enough.
That said, I happen to own the very same book. So I checked it out for myself. All it says about Walker (from Geezer) is that "the material wasn't very good--It wasn't us anyway" right on page 143. It's doesn't mention anything about Walker's ability to sing, which I don't really know either way, but other people seem to think was pretty good in his other bands.
@blacksabfan i seem to think he was really good in sabbath btw he also sang war pigs you wouldn't happen to have a bootleg or footage of him singing it do ya
@Skavar4000 - Ozzy's version of this song is the best, it has a real bluesy sound - (and I love Ozzy's voice;-) this man is just shouting most of the time. However, it isn't true that Ozzy doesn't sing other people's stuff, as you claim, as his album 'Under Cover' contains only material by other artists. But it's a great album - my favourites are 'Mississippi Queen', 'All the Young Dudes' and the Beatles classic 'In My Life' - Ozzy gives all the songs on this album his own very special touch.
Walkers take on this is dreadful...in fact its all completely dreadful.Quick need to listen to the Ozzy version & forget I ever heard this...jesus whats with the fuckin harmonica.
Dave Walker is a awesome singer. All his work has been exceptional. Always will be a ozzy Sabbath fan, but Dave gives the band a unique touch. This sound would of been good, and it's too bad it did'nt continue.
IMHO, Dave really would have fit Black Sabbath. Actually when Ozzy left BS he said he wanted them to pursue a more musical direction like Humble Pie. With Dave his wish would have come true. After all, its still all Black Sabbath.
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This sucks!!! I think it was this Dave Walker guy that I saw on a late night religious show talking about Sabbath being satanists. He said he was so happy the lord saved him from that evil band. Give me a break. I think the lord saved us from having to listen to this crap.
this is my least favorite ozzy era album there some ok songs on this album i think dave was in sabbath for 3 wks cause ozzy left and came back dave sounds ok , i think he did 2 songs on this album this one and anthoer acourse they were never used thanks for the post of the song atleast i can say i heard it now
I am tired of reading comments where people dis Never Say Die. Totatly underrated. Geez and Iommi sound great, but this guy sucks. Maybe vocals for swinging the chain were in order for this guy, but that is it. Ozzy even does the blues better than this guy. Cool stuff for historical value, but the Ozz version makes this song a classic.
The album version of Ozzy is much better? That is the original and needs to stay that way! Dave Danato? Why are we even discussing? What a fucking JOKE! Nice attempt at Dio who was the best replacement after Ozzy, but he fucking sounds like a FLAMING VANDENBERG.
I don't like it. The album version with Ozzy is much better. Had to check it out, out of curiosity. I'm going to look up Savoy Brown now and try to listen with an open mind.
i like this. in its different way it's as good as ozzy's version. i'd say the 80's stuff with fenholt and donato is a lot worse compared to hughes' & gillen's versions, than this is compared to ozzy version.
wonder how much is in the archives, with Dave Walker as the singer?
sounds alright in a rough British blues boom type of way although this was the late 70s and maybe a bit dated by then. I got to see the reformed sabs at the astoria in 1999, amazing.
Rough voice thats suited well the style of the song, but it "destroyed" Black Sabbath identity. OO had a good idea to come back a last time for new sessions.
I would like to have heard Ozzy do this live. I think its a great tune even with Walker. I especially like it without the extra guitar sounds Iommi threw on during the chorus on the album version. A more straight forward power riff gives it a sort of gritty blues like sound that is just kick ass.
it's like Sabbath meets CCR but i really wish that they made the whole album with walker instead of Ozzy since the album was basicly made for walkers voice
I always found that with Nvere Say Die, Sabbath had wanted to go back to the bluesy tones (as well as rawer production) of their early days. the only element that counterbalanced that was Ozzy's melodic lines that were the continuation of Sabbath's mid 70s progressive experimentations. It seems this version proves my theory right :)
I disagree. Swinging the chain may have been written for Dave Walker (bluesy), but if Geezer was planning to get back to the "roots" he would've played a Fender and not a Ric on Never Say Die. Geezer has always wanted to sound like Chris Squire of Yes, and he got some of that on Die. Also, alot of this album is written in "A," something they would've never done in the early days. Just a different turn and not backwards. Like In Through the Out Door. Both classics in their own rights
Sleeping Village (except intro), The Wizard, most Behind the Wall Of Sleep are in A...there's only 2 songs in E off the first album. I won't argue over their instrument choices, but I do think the sound on both records have a lot in common. This return to the basics in terms of sound doesn't apply to the music though. Iommi played what I'd call lead riffing all through the early stuff. The later Ozzy period is kind of more AC/DC-ish with lots of open chords and a higher-ended tone.
Magnificent song by Black Sabbath
Dave Walker is the good vocalist
srtyxczewlsrolkid 8 hours ago
This would have changed EVERYTHING
samchampionlives 1 week ago
Prefer Ozzy version!
MrBlacklorre 1 month ago
The Ozzy version has to be one of my all time favourites. Saying that I really dig this version as well.
scotthendo 1 month ago
I've never been a fan of Never Say Die but I think I would have loved it if Dave Walker sang on it. This version just rocks so hard. Too bad we'll never know what could have been.
Neanderthal78 1 month ago
this is awful
otheozzy 2 months ago
i love his version of the song its much better thn ozzys
Gonger96 2 months ago
Now I know where Eddie Vedder got his influence and inspiration.
cudaj2 3 months ago
@cudaj2 Also reminds me of Jeff Scott Soto's vocal style.
LT9856 3 weeks ago
@cudaj2 Except that Eddie Vedder eats chodes, and this guy's not too bad
PutItAway101 2 weeks ago
@PutItAway101 Lol! That cracks me up! Good one!
cudaj2 2 weeks ago
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its weird because this song is written for ozzy for his father who passed away the year before, and if somebody else sings it its kind of wrong.
jamirosmajicrocks 3 months ago
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jamirosmajicrocks 3 months ago
Does anyone have the video footage of Sabbath w/ Dave Walker on the BBC "Look Hear" show from 1-6-78? The video does exist. Been looking for it for years. Thanks
1976GeorgeMa 3 months ago 8
Awesome singer indeed
diorey 4 months ago
Interesting. He reminds me a bit of james dewar. this song had possibilities but was ruined by the recording and production on that album. sounds heavier here.
johnnybs2525 4 months ago
Please do a version of 'Stairway' w/your own lyrics in case the first bullet in my brian doesnt work
ASR10MAN 4 months ago
@ASR10MAN I think the reason the lyrics are different is because they hed Dave Walker on this instead of Ozzy. So maybe Dave used his own lyrics instead of Geezer's. The patterning and melody he's using is different too. And they DON'T suck. He's got a great voice and adds his own style to the song.
coreeeey420 3 months ago
@coreeeey420 the lyrics are different because Walker, Geezer and Im assuming Tony wrote this; don't forget they thought Ozzy was gone at this point in time and they were working on a new album but, as we all know, Ozzy rejoined and refused to use ANY lyrics written with Walker. So Ozzy and Geezer mustve wrote the lyrics in a tribute for his father.
MyNiggaDose 1 week ago
@MyNiggaDose It's still killer, no matter what. I wish they had some more with Dave, as well as some recordings with the other Dave (Donato). That would be sweeeeeeeeeet..... I know there are Ray Gillan recordings available.
coreeeey420 4 days ago
i like these vocals for the song better than ozzy's but i think these are different lyrics i know theres no way to tell but just something i noticed.
itsmiketehdrummerguy 4 months ago
@itsmiketehdrummerguy Walker's lyrics are definately different than Ozzy's "Juniors Eyes". They certainly sound a lot gloomier than Ozzy's.
mndk100 4 months ago
@mndk100
"Walker's lyrics are definately different than Ozzy's"
Yeah they suck
ASR10MAN 4 months ago
@ASR10MAN geezer was the main lyricist not ozzy so shut the fuck up
billgeezeriommi 3 months ago
Inaudible vocals.
ghostdancer2302 4 months ago
@ghostdancer2302
Thanks for that Captain Obvious.
Besides, to complain about that is ironic considering how many people misquote Sabbath and Ozzy lyrics. I mean if they can't hear supposedly audible lyrics correctly, then does it really matter if these are inaudible?
There's plenty of other Sabbath bootlegs with inaudible lyrics that are still relatively worthwhile to listen to...specifically some of the early 1970 shows, when they played songs with different lyrics.
blacksabfan 4 months ago
@blacksabfan Sometimes bands purposely keep lyrics inaudible. Example, on Led Zeppelin's Carouselambra you can't understand the lyrics but on All My Love the words are perfectly clear. I think it's a way to sell more records. Yeah, I like listening to early versions of Sab songs with different lyrics, like War Pigs and Killing Youself To Live.
ghostdancer2302 4 months ago
@ghostdancer2302
The lyrics are perfectly audible on Carouselambra. What the hell are you talking about?
The only reason the the sound isn't that clear here is the quality of the recording, that's it. Even still, parts of it can be made out. Any band that takes the time to write real lyrics isn't going to keep them inaudible. That doesn't even make sense.
blacksabfan 4 months ago
@blacksabfan I'm not making this up, give Carouselambra another listen. I've read that Robert's vocals were mixed so deeply into the magma of the song that the words were unintelligible and that they were made purposely clear on All My Love. The song Burning Down One Side from Robert's solo career is inaudible too.
ghostdancer2302 4 months ago
@ghostdancer2302
So that's why I can google "Carouselambra", and find the full lyrics of the song and read them and realize that they make complete sense. Nevermind that I actually took the time to put the song on myself before my last reply and could clearly make them out.
Whatever, I guess my ears are just awesome.
blacksabfan 4 months ago
@blacksabfan You know more than they do I guess. Anyway, like your vids.
ghostdancer2302 4 months ago
@ghostdancer2302
Now let's not be putting words in my mouth. I never said I know more than Zeppelin does, I just think you're mistaken. If you read it somewhere, I suppose you would be willing to tell me where you read it, that way I can find it myself.
Or, is this one of those situations where someone says they read something somewhere once upon a time and then they disappear when they are challenged on it and/or proven wrong? Many Sabbath fans pull that crap all the time.
blacksabfan 4 months ago
@blacksabfan Okay, I read it in Hammer Of The Gods. Page 291.
ghostdancer2302 4 months ago
@ghostdancer2302
I'll have to pick it up and read it next time I'm in the bookstore. I see a copy of it every time I'm in there.
blacksabfan 4 months ago
@blacksabfan
Good book. The surviving members of Zeppelin don't particularly like it. They say it's ludicrous and was written by someone they never knew. When you read the book though, you get the feeling that the author (Stephen Davis) did his homework and speaks the truth. My opinion it that it's real and that the band just doesn't like the truth coming out. Check it out and form your own opinion. Either way it's a very good read.
ghostdancer2302 4 months ago
While there is something "off" about the last two albums with Ozzy, Never Say Die is far superior to Technical Ecstacy (though Dirty Women rocks!)
Monkeyhead1986 5 months ago
Am I alone in thinking that "Never Say Die!" would have been a MUCH better album with this line up? (Obviously, sound quality aside) This is a better version of Juniors Eyes.
superged 5 months ago
Sounds awesome. I think Ozzy fan boys need to be more open minded. Before you say oh fuck you or anything I love the first 6 Sabbath Albums. But they were writing music that required a different vocal style at this time. Ozzy was good but he can only sing so much that's also part of the charm of Sabbath. But I'm more a fan of the riffs more then the vocals.
FraterAbdual93 6 months ago
qulaquer vocalista é melhor que o ozzy kkkkk... nem precisam ficar comparando, ozzy nao passa de um maconheiro famoso
XrenanXmattos 6 months ago
Black Sabbath Is Very Good :D
DJxFabian99 6 months ago
Interesting, but awful....I doubt this version is called "Junior's Eyes". The album recording kills this garbage..... Not even in the the same league..
stoicj 6 months ago
@stoicj
It's Live from a TV show, you fucking idiot. It's not the "quality" that is of importance in this case, it's the fact that it's rare as FUCK. Thanks for douching it up, MORON.
HOC666 6 months ago
@HOC666 Nice attitude.What grade did you finish your education??? 3rd grade??? Maybe 4th???? Or did your mother just teach all those "big" words???
reptilia5 5 months ago
@reptilia5
Again, thanks for douching it up, asshole.
HOC666 5 months ago
@HOC666 Little man.
reptilia5 5 months ago
@reptilia5
Next time you reply to someone twice, make it fucking worthwhile. Okay, asshole?
HOC666 5 months ago
@reptilia5
Stupid man.
HOC666 5 months ago
BLACK SABBATH IS THE BEST...
warpig2313 6 months ago
This is a cool thing to hear - I like Sabbath and I also like Dave Walker (Savoy Brown and the Dave Walker Band.) While I agree that his vocal style doesn't really match Sabbath's music (blues-rock rather than heavy metal), it's still cool to hear.
brcurrandude 6 months ago
it sounds waaay better with ozzy
resman4 6 months ago
"Hellbound Train"..."Crazy Train"...anybody else see the connection? Lol
drprogensteinphp 6 months ago
this honestly sounds like sabbath meets CCR
Traductus5972 7 months ago
Gracias capo x subir estas rarezas, menos mal que volvió Ozzy,no?
DIOS437 7 months ago
NO ONE IS BETTER THEN OZZY.OZZY OZZY OZZY RULES!!.
warpig2313 7 months ago
@warpig2313 Dio Is
cavemanofrockstars 6 months ago
Really cool to have heard this version--would like to see their appearance on the show. Honestly, the Ozzy version is so much better...one of THE best tracks on this weakest of all Sab albums (Never Say Die'). The lyrics were written about Ozzy's dad Jack who had recently passed on. Ozzy's emotional vocals put it over the top. 'Technical Ecstasy' was the last strong Sabbath album--with 'Sabotage' being my personal fave of the Ozzy era...
Zillaman67 7 months ago
I much prefer the lyrics and melody on the Never Say Die version. This kinda sounds like Walker is just improvising over the riffs.
pophop4231 8 months ago
Check out TheDaveWalkerBand on YT. 66 years old and still rockin'. :-)
briandamaged23 9 months ago
Savoy Brown, Sabbath it's all fuckin' HEAVY.. thats what matters..
TimmerLoko 10 months ago
This guy has some serious Soul, holy freaking Shit, too bad they never did an album together, I have never heard Dave Walker before, I think he sounds great!
MrTraceMan 1 year ago 3
@MrTraceMan Walker had recorded with a number of bands since the 1960s, most notably a stint with Savoy Brown for a trio of LPs in 1971 - 1972 ("Street Corner Talking", "Hellbound Train" and "Lion's Share"), and a brief stint with Fleetwood Mac (two songs, "The Derelict" and "I'm A Roadrunner", off their "Penguin" LP, 1973). This was sort of a turbulent period for the guy... he wasn't able to record with anybody through the rest of the decade and runs solo now.
YusakuJon3 11 months ago
i wonder what would have happened if ozzy didnt come back the first time.. maybe there would never be Dio sabbath.. who knows?
NirvanaGod69 1 year ago
Well, I really like this version!
loldacz 1 year ago
hum It would have been cool if DIO would have joined during this period
akaboo69 1 year ago
Thanks for the post, please check out Dave Walker's New Band.
TheDaveWalkerBand 1 year ago
Who's lyrics? Ozzy or dave change them?
polkatulk1 1 year ago
@polkatulk1 these was Dave's, Ozzy came in and changed them when he rejoined them, he wrote them about his dad dying.
SabbraCadabra789 1 year ago
wow,he should have replaced Ozzy.I think this is way better than Dio(R.I.P.)
1906aldo 1 year ago
@1906aldo how can you say that? the sound is shit and you can't even hear what he's saying! now compare this to Wishing Well and tell me whos better,.
SabbraCadabra789 1 year ago
@SabbraCadabra789 Yes, the sound is shit but its techical problem.It has nothing to do with his singing.I personaly like deep,bluesy voices like this.And Dave Walker really is much better singing Ozzy-era songs than Dio.I mean...this was recorded on some crap but still i really enjoyed listening to this.I enjoyed it more than I enjoy listening Dio ruinning/singing Paranoid
1906aldo 1 year ago
David did war pigs also for the BBC recording. where can i find that song?
anyways this version of juniors eye is kinda different and good.
deslockxxx 1 year ago
I dunno... I like Sabbath and I like Dave, but the two don't seem to jell...
rogerstill71 1 year ago
go Dave go
TheDaveWalkerBand 1 year ago
My uncle was best friends with him and when he passed away I went over to were my uncle lived (I'm not giving out where he lives) and when ever I go there I get to meet this guy. I actually smoked some weed with him and watched some soccer with him. I was there just this summer.
BF2User5 1 year ago
@BF2User5 Say to Dave Walker to he continue to sing ok? Make a new band.. lol
Luckzzz 1 year ago
@Luckzzz he already has one forgot the name
BF2User5 1 year ago
I loved Black Sabbath with Dave Walker, Gillan, Dio, Tony Martin (for me, the best one), Hugges and Halford. Love them all! And, of course, Ozzy Osboune as well!
jcmbjr 1 year ago
burn this tape
prezobummer 1 year ago
Dave Walker sang for Fleetwood Mac. And Savoy Brown too. A damn good rock & roll singer. Fleetwood Mac should've kept him.
genesisfan3 1 year ago
@genesisfan3 Dave Walker was also in Ac/Dc before Bon Scott. There are some live performances on Youtube with Dave Walker..
guitarfreakstyle 1 year ago
@guitarfreakstyle No, man! It was Dave EVANS in AC/DC.
Slipknotter8 1 year ago
Very cool to finally hear this version!
reckia 1 year ago
Dave Walker replaced Jeff Lynne in the Idle Race, that's true. He really didn't replace Ozzy,nobody replaces anybody in Sabbath, just fills in.
SVB2002 1 year ago
dave walker was the singer for savory brown
cimillof87 1 year ago
i love never say die, dunno why people dont like it
ctownsdelaval 1 year ago
The Dave Walker Band just released a new CD "Crazy All the Time" he sounds better than ever.
Dave will be releasng a weekly blog wth stories
When Dave was with the Idle Race (where he replaced Jeff Lynne) he would hang out at the Rum Runner and The Cedar Club in Birmingham, Tony and the boys from Sabbath would hang there too. Bonzo and Plant. also frequented those places, Bonzo was Dave's drinking Buddy. Dave's friendship with Sabbath goes way back and he genuinely likes them all.
backburnerjazz 1 year ago
Love this: blues metal forever!.-
VUPURREDOX09 1 year ago
I bet Dave and Sabbath had a chuckle after trying it out, all involved are great but together not so much. For those that are into Sabbath and haven't yet checked out Savoy Brown, in any early version up to the mid 70's, should do so. Savoy was the only bad with heavy enough subject matter to have been an influence on Sab. Though Dave would have been after Sab had made their mark. Anyway, DAve wasn't a fit here but he wailed on Savoy Brown.
reissue 1 year ago
This Dave Walker would is better than Dio but Ozzy is the best
1906aldo 1 year ago
I am *so* glad they did not pick this guy to sing. It basically means Sabbath would have started sucking in 1978 instead of 1985! ha ha... We'd have 5 or 6 fewer years of good Sabbath! I like Ozzy, I like Dio, Ian Gillan- Hell, I'll even tolerate some Tony Martin or Ray Gillen stuff- but *this* guy blows dead donkey dicks. Fact.
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fuck!!! who is this fagot singing... there isnt the version of ozzy???????????
tucula 1 year ago
@tucula
Try reading the information provided below the video...that is, if you can read...
blacksabfan 1 year ago 17
@tucula singer of sevoy brown a british blues band
eyehategod8 1 year ago
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@tucula is why do you call him a fagot?
billgeezeriommi 1 year ago
@tucula jackwagon
kyla2112 9 months ago
when i 1st. heard this i was like WTF but i just keep on coming back to this video and now i think their should've been more stuff from this line-up. but anyway can anyone please upload war pigs by this line-up i'd like to hear it
Traductus5972 1 year ago
Walker also sang WAR PIGS but I cant find that recording... grrrrrrrrrrr
Stngds9ve 1 year ago
sounds a bit like james dewer.....good,but definately not right for sabbath...
VUPdingCLICK 1 year ago
@VUPdingCLICK I agree totally sounds like James Dewer
babybotch 1 year ago
@babybotch A deeper version of James....maybe.
uofm97 1 year ago
I like this version. I like that Dave Walker sang it first. I like even more that the version on the official album is Ozzy and is also one of my 'guilty secret' favourite Black Sabbath tracks.
ianpw2 1 year ago
It doesn't sound to what Sabbath used to play, it sounds more like pure blues to blues-rock
RaiDeNJuNioR 1 year ago
completely incoherent...he's not even forming words as opposed to growling. It's pretty bad when the majority of the song is music and it's not even an instrumental. good thing ozzy's vocals turned this into a good song...with his extremely coherent vocals (as usual)
AlbertEinsteinJr 1 year ago
OK !
WTF was Ozzy at when this guy was singing.
And lets be real as much as I hate Ozzies kids and the commercial he has become, the rest of BS is damn lucky he is so forgiving. After all the shit they pulled on him(specially Tony) back in the 70s. Can anyone keep track of how many times Ozzy has saved their careers? And when he cant do it Dio does.
uhjigali 1 year ago
Horrid. Just like 97% of the singers they had who tried to fill Ozzy's shoes.
hardcharger 1 year ago
I could see why this didn't work.
lrewopf 1 year ago
the cat hat was an insult to those who didnt like the idea of an american in the band! and for those who dont know caterpillar is a major american engine and heavy equipment company
jnorrisish 1 year ago
To be fair I think he did an okay job of what was obviously a pretty hard task. It not that unlike what was to follow with Dio at the helm. Okay its not Ozzy but who is? And it can never be called a cover, it is the original version,like it or not>
SlipknotPsycho1 1 year ago
uhh how dull isnit, you people must be joking with me, id better go killing myself cos ive got no sence of humour goodbye
ztormar 1 year ago
he's voice a little bit smiliar to coverdale's...bluesy
shotguy1 1 year ago
This was recorded before Ozzy come back to the band...eat 'em and smile!
FizzzieCat 1 year ago
Who does this Walker guy think he is?!
To perform a train wreck like this with a classic B. SABBATH song like this!
Vocal pollution is what it is. Christ...
Skavar4000 1 year ago
lol You know, I understand that people like Ozzy.. he is the original Sabbath singer... that said, this guy Dave Walker can out sing Ozzy any day of the week. He can step in anywhere and do the job, Ozzy is well Ozzy.. he could never perform anyone elses music cause he's a terrible singer. lol Try imagining Ozzy singing Sign of the Southern Cross for instance :P
samhain1967 1 year ago
samhain1957: "Try imagining Ozzy singing Sign of the Southern Cross for instance"
Believe me my friend it cannot be worse than the butcher job this guy did on a classic Sab song. BTW that is why ozzy doesn't sing other peoples stuff... because he is a one of a kind.
Dave is not even trying to be true to the essence of the original song. He is changing the melody and skipping the chorus all together. It is undefendable! In this instance he is pathetic. It doesnt matter what else he has done.
Skavar4000 1 year ago
"Dave is not even rying to be true to the essence of the original song?"
In all fairness, Dave Walker sang the ORIGINAL song. This version was done on TV in January 1978...before Ozzy ever attempted it...before Never Say Die was done.
Ozzy does way better, but lets be fair. This isn't a cover...Walker sang it with Sabbath first.
blacksabfan 1 year ago
@blacksabfan they had a problem with Walker that his vocals were not able to be understood. his style of singing didnt fit with Sabbath. Later when Ozzy returned they rewrote the words as a tribute to Ozzys father Jack who had just passed away. So the song was completely changed to a tribute to Jack Osbourne.
kortick50 1 year ago
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That pointless explanation aside, it's still not a cover. That was your original argument, was it not?
Also, that part about Walker not being understood is crap. The only reason you can't here is the quality of the tape. I'd love to see any source where you got that tidbit of information...not that I expect to...
blacksabfan 1 year ago
@blacksabfan Refer to the book, Black Sabbath: Doom let Loose, by Martin Popoff. Chapter 9 pages 142-43 to be exact for even more info on Walker and his Sabbath days. And no its not a cover, Ozzy refused to sing any lyrics written for Walker so when they re-recorded this song it was done as tribute to Oz dad.
kortick50 1 year ago 2
@kortick50 Yes, you weren't the guy that was claiming this as a cover. Fair enough.
That said, I happen to own the very same book. So I checked it out for myself. All it says about Walker (from Geezer) is that "the material wasn't very good--It wasn't us anyway" right on page 143. It's doesn't mention anything about Walker's ability to sing, which I don't really know either way, but other people seem to think was pretty good in his other bands.
blacksabfan 1 year ago
@blacksabfan he is and actually i really like this stuff too it really brings sabbath to their bluesy roots and still sounds like sabbath
Traductus5972 1 year ago
@blacksabfan i seem to think he was really good in sabbath btw he also sang war pigs you wouldn't happen to have a bootleg or footage of him singing it do ya
Traductus5972 1 year ago
@Traductus5972 He didn't sing "War Pigs," unfortunately. Bill, Tony, and Geezer played it, with Dave accompanying them with a tambourine.
QuarrellaDeVil 1 year ago
@QuarrellaDeVil oh that bites
Traductus5972 1 year ago
@Skavar4000 - Ozzy's version of this song is the best, it has a real bluesy sound - (and I love Ozzy's voice;-) this man is just shouting most of the time. However, it isn't true that Ozzy doesn't sing other people's stuff, as you claim, as his album 'Under Cover' contains only material by other artists. But it's a great album - my favourites are 'Mississippi Queen', 'All the Young Dudes' and the Beatles classic 'In My Life' - Ozzy gives all the songs on this album his own very special touch.
expatbritingermany 1 year ago
Walkers take on this is dreadful...in fact its all completely dreadful.Quick need to listen to the Ozzy version & forget I ever heard this...jesus whats with the fuckin harmonica.
Dinner1966 1 year ago
@Dinner1966 hey Ozzy played harmonica on the wizard and also i think he played it on this song to on the never say die album
Traductus5972 1 year ago
yeah... it sounds more like Fleetwood Mac with Tony Iommi on guitar. ;p
ChapaczNorek 1 year ago
this sucks and is embarrasing ...walker sings like a drunkin biker....
bozo47p 1 year ago
Dave Walker is a awesome singer. All his work has been exceptional. Always will be a ozzy Sabbath fan, but Dave gives the band a unique touch. This sound would of been good, and it's too bad it did'nt continue.
MrRocker04 1 year ago
good but not black sabbath
AggelosR 1 year ago
dave walker great voice, amazing artist!!
greatleahart 1 year ago
not the song without Ozzy... ... ... Ozzy is the only one who can sing Juniors Eyes...
thesethingz 2 years ago
Where didi you find this version of the song?
FuXOuT 2 years ago
IMHO, Dave really would have fit Black Sabbath. Actually when Ozzy left BS he said he wanted them to pursue a more musical direction like Humble Pie. With Dave his wish would have come true. After all, its still all Black Sabbath.
crowbarftw 2 years ago 4
as much as i like NSD with Ozzy still i would have liked to hear more out of this lineup. Dave Walker had a great voice.
killerdugong 2 years ago 6
this is strange and confused. Ozzy´s version is great, but this is strange
jlalis 2 years ago
I agree, this isn't a good fit at all.
pythonflying 2 years ago
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This sucks!!! I think it was this Dave Walker guy that I saw on a late night religious show talking about Sabbath being satanists. He said he was so happy the lord saved him from that evil band. Give me a break. I think the lord saved us from having to listen to this crap.
geezermassey1968 2 years ago
I think you're confusing Dave Walker with Jeff Fenholt.
blacksabfan 2 years ago
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Your right! My bad!
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bullikins 2 years ago
wow dave walker with black sabbath thats so badas savoy brown rules
eyehategod8 2 years ago 11
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backburnerjazz 1 year ago
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@eyehategod8 The Dave Walker Band just released a new CD "Crazy All the Time" he sounds better than ever.
backburnerjazz 1 year ago
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@eyehategod8 The Dave Walker Band just released a new CD "Crazy All the Time" he sounds better than ever.
backburnerjazz 1 year ago
I dont know what any of you all are bitching about, I think this is awesome.
TheInfamousKyle 2 years ago 5
Give the song a break, no it's not Ozzy and it does suck but you don't have to point out the obvious, it's Sabbath history nonetheless.......
yousaiditzero 2 years ago
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Fucking awful. It sounds like some drunk dude at a bar singing.
dickrobot 2 years ago
I read of this very cool to find it here, Thanks
Groovin on Savoy Brown - Time Does Tell -Street Corner Talking, '71
EMemRefugee 2 years ago
Ozzy re-wrote the lyrics to Juniors Eyes about the death of his father, When he returned to the band!
beano1eye 2 years ago
this is my least favorite ozzy era album there some ok songs on this album i think dave was in sabbath for 3 wks cause ozzy left and came back dave sounds ok , i think he did 2 songs on this album this one and anthoer acourse they were never used thanks for the post of the song atleast i can say i heard it now
boredinneb 2 years ago
AWFUL
mrhiway420 2 years ago
I am tired of reading comments where people dis Never Say Die. Totatly underrated. Geez and Iommi sound great, but this guy sucks. Maybe vocals for swinging the chain were in order for this guy, but that is it. Ozzy even does the blues better than this guy. Cool stuff for historical value, but the Ozz version makes this song a classic.
ej0002 2 years ago
NEVER SAY DIE SABBATH BEST ALBUM
Billykid514 2 years ago
The album version of Ozzy is much better? That is the original and needs to stay that way! Dave Danato? Why are we even discussing? What a fucking JOKE! Nice attempt at Dio who was the best replacement after Ozzy, but he fucking sounds like a FLAMING VANDENBERG.
missstarlet13 2 years ago
I don't like it. The album version with Ozzy is much better. Had to check it out, out of curiosity. I'm going to look up Savoy Brown now and try to listen with an open mind.
rmaxinmass 2 years ago
i like this. in its different way it's as good as ozzy's version. i'd say the 80's stuff with fenholt and donato is a lot worse compared to hughes' & gillen's versions, than this is compared to ozzy version.
originaldw 2 years ago
oops, i mean ozzy's version :)
...just before anybody types something like "savoy brown fans are retarded they can't even write"
btw i own all sab albums, and i don't know savoy brown at all :)
originaldw 2 years ago
wonder how much is in the archives, with Dave Walker as the singer?
sounds alright in a rough British blues boom type of way although this was the late 70s and maybe a bit dated by then. I got to see the reformed sabs at the astoria in 1999, amazing.
droogless 2 years ago 3
Rough voice thats suited well the style of the song, but it "destroyed" Black Sabbath identity. OO had a good idea to come back a last time for new sessions.
Muzikusuk 2 years ago 3
I would like to have heard Ozzy do this live. I think its a great tune even with Walker. I especially like it without the extra guitar sounds Iommi threw on during the chorus on the album version. A more straight forward power riff gives it a sort of gritty blues like sound that is just kick ass.
lazrokit1 2 years ago
Check out the cover that Dirty Woman performed live in Mexico City of the recorded version of Junior's Eyes, those guys fucking rock...
thecontinuum 2 years ago
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Sorry for black sabbath dave walker sucked.Too bluesy.
MrTabby5000 2 years ago
Opposite, I think he could be a better choice instead of Dio. Though we wouldn't have Heaven & Hell then...
MoonchildMindaugas2 2 years ago
dave walker would have changed the black in black sabbath,ian gillam almost changed the black into purple.
MrTabby5000 2 years ago
they started out as a blues band you stupid fuck
Traductus5972 2 years ago
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Nope black sabbath was never blue,they started out black.
MrTabby5000 2 years ago
Seriously. Don't be retarded. Thanks.
blacksabfan 2 years ago
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Takes one to know one,doesnt it?Dave walker still sucks.
MrTabby5000 2 years ago
No it doesn't. Good try at a lame comeback though.
blacksabfan 2 years ago
it's like Sabbath meets CCR but i really wish that they made the whole album with walker instead of Ozzy since the album was basicly made for walkers voice
Traductus5972 2 years ago
where did you find that?! very cool to hear such different vocals I still prefer Ozzy's version though. The harmonica part is very cool.
WarioJo 2 years ago
Such a blues feel to this with this singer.
But this style isn't what made sabbath infamous. I'm glad oz came back.
masteryan 2 years ago
it's good.
I always found that with Nvere Say Die, Sabbath had wanted to go back to the bluesy tones (as well as rawer production) of their early days. the only element that counterbalanced that was Ozzy's melodic lines that were the continuation of Sabbath's mid 70s progressive experimentations. It seems this version proves my theory right :)
malewhoreslag 2 years ago 2
That's what I was thinking.
masteryan 2 years ago
I disagree. Swinging the chain may have been written for Dave Walker (bluesy), but if Geezer was planning to get back to the "roots" he would've played a Fender and not a Ric on Never Say Die. Geezer has always wanted to sound like Chris Squire of Yes, and he got some of that on Die. Also, alot of this album is written in "A," something they would've never done in the early days. Just a different turn and not backwards. Like In Through the Out Door. Both classics in their own rights
ej0002 2 years ago
Sleeping Village (except intro), The Wizard, most Behind the Wall Of Sleep are in A...there's only 2 songs in E off the first album. I won't argue over their instrument choices, but I do think the sound on both records have a lot in common. This return to the basics in terms of sound doesn't apply to the music though. Iommi played what I'd call lead riffing all through the early stuff. The later Ozzy period is kind of more AC/DC-ish with lots of open chords and a higher-ended tone.
malewhoreslag 2 years ago