Until SpaceX lift system is fully human rated as billed I don't see NASA ordering 9 SpaceXs unless it's classified as a cargo EELV. There's plenty of competition for cargo EELV services.
@jibbi4one sometimes I forget that I'm talking on youtube and I should assume everyone is ignorant. Yes, NASA is buying flights from SpaceX for delivery of cargo to the ISS. It's called the Cargo Resupply Services program. As part of the contract Falcon 9 / Dragon has to be "human rated" as astronauts will be inside the Dragon when it is attached to the ISS. Only after they have flown many flights, and they have a launch escape system will humans be flying.
@quantumG Nope, In favor of POR Constell. & Ares for robust lift system besides I advocate in-space nuclear propulsion. And a whole host of in-space technologies.
But I do admire SpaceX and SpaceDev Dream Chaser and Virgin these companies will go far in space. Problem is U.S. space program is currently suffering from high GDP-to-debt ratio.
@jibbi4one Not sure what you're saying there, but yes, we're all in favor of NASA doing some new technology as the limitations of 60s technology used in the POR limits how far and how fast we can go in space.
I believe the problems with NASA has nothing to do with budget and more to do with political pork. Bolden recently said $4.5B for the Orion CRV? Really? That's 9 SpaceXs.
Don't mind SpaceX and wish them success. But that said. It would be more to the point if the company not be so dependant on infusion of U.S. public money to develop.
Think Falcon 9 Merlin engine stage needs to establish if a significant portion of this system is an RLV or EELV due to its fail on first test flight.
@jibbi4one They're not. NASA is a customer and the COTS program has paid for less than half of the total cost of development of Falcon 1, Falcon 9, Dragon, and the two launch sites.
@jibbi4one Huh? NASA is a customer... one of many. As Gwynne Shotwell has said, NASA is a significant customer, but they are not the majority of SpaceX's business. Elon Musk has said that without a NASA contract for CCDev (or COTS-D, why aren't NASA funding COTS-D yet?) it will take about 6 years to develop the crew launch capability, rather than 3 years with NASA funding, but that's assuming some other funding doesn't become available.
The one thing the shuttle has going for it is the capability of bringing large stuff intact back from orbit.
mbarkhau 8 months ago
WHO THE FUCK WANTS SPACEX TO FAIL?
posada432 9 months ago 2
@posada432 there's plenty of sour grapes out there.
quantumG 9 months ago
@posada432 Lockheed Martin, McDonnal Douglas and Boeing.
RPShredow 5 months ago
Until SpaceX lift system is fully human rated as billed I don't see NASA ordering 9 SpaceXs unless it's classified as a cargo EELV. There's plenty of competition for cargo EELV services.
jibbi4one 1 year ago
@jibbi4one sometimes I forget that I'm talking on youtube and I should assume everyone is ignorant. Yes, NASA is buying flights from SpaceX for delivery of cargo to the ISS. It's called the Cargo Resupply Services program. As part of the contract Falcon 9 / Dragon has to be "human rated" as astronauts will be inside the Dragon when it is attached to the ISS. Only after they have flown many flights, and they have a launch escape system will humans be flying.
quantumG 1 year ago 3
@quantumG Well, we'll see I just see the new U.S. space program as too wobbly for my tastes.
jibbi4one 1 year ago
@quantumG Nope, In favor of POR Constell. & Ares for robust lift system besides I advocate in-space nuclear propulsion. And a whole host of in-space technologies.
But I do admire SpaceX and SpaceDev Dream Chaser and Virgin these companies will go far in space. Problem is U.S. space program is currently suffering from high GDP-to-debt ratio.
jibbi4one 1 year ago
@jibbi4one Not sure what you're saying there, but yes, we're all in favor of NASA doing some new technology as the limitations of 60s technology used in the POR limits how far and how fast we can go in space.
I believe the problems with NASA has nothing to do with budget and more to do with political pork. Bolden recently said $4.5B for the Orion CRV? Really? That's 9 SpaceXs.
quantumG 1 year ago
Don't mind SpaceX and wish them success. But that said. It would be more to the point if the company not be so dependant on infusion of U.S. public money to develop.
Think Falcon 9 Merlin engine stage needs to establish if a significant portion of this system is an RLV or EELV due to its fail on first test flight.
jibbi4one 1 year ago
@jibbi4one They're not. NASA is a customer and the COTS program has paid for less than half of the total cost of development of Falcon 1, Falcon 9, Dragon, and the two launch sites.
quantumG 1 year ago
@quantumG HUH..? NASA + COTS = Gov't money.
No proplem, it's ok SpaceX needs an outlet to service space.
But don't put lipstick on a pig because it's still a pig.
jibbi4one 1 year ago
@jibbi4one Huh? NASA is a customer... one of many. As Gwynne Shotwell has said, NASA is a significant customer, but they are not the majority of SpaceX's business. Elon Musk has said that without a NASA contract for CCDev (or COTS-D, why aren't NASA funding COTS-D yet?) it will take about 6 years to develop the crew launch capability, rather than 3 years with NASA funding, but that's assuming some other funding doesn't become available.
quantumG 1 year ago
Excellent! If SpaceX goes public, I'll buy stock!
lobosolo0333 2 years ago 3
Thanks for posting this!
mengstudent 2 years ago