Don't forget, we're talking about Bobby Fischer here...the man was notorious for turning down draw offers from anyone, grandmasters to class E players.
Super GMs like Bobby have alot of pride in their games, they don't want to accept a draw in a simul against someone thats 2200 ish if theres any play left in the position. Theres a simul of Kasparovs on youtube where he plays out a pawn and bishop endgame in a pretty drawish position and rejects the draw offer and ultimately grinds the win out of the endgame. I think Bobby was trying to do the same. Thanks for the video and respect to the intervewee!
Anthony Koppany passed away on Monday October 17th. He was a very gentle man, and he did not brag about playing Bobby Fischer. He just loved playing chess and it devistated him when he couldn't play any more. Great chess players are all stubborn, that's their amazing minds working!! :)
i suspect that Fischer concluded that the game was technically drawn well before he accepted the draw because he believed that there was a good chance that his opponent would make a mistake and thereby lose the game.
There are many reasons for not liking Fischer, the fact that he always plays for the win isn't one of them. With all due respect, this gentleman should have been honoured that Fischer wanted to keep playing.
I checked the game and I cant see why Fischer should have accepted the early draw, it is unfair from that man to imply that Fischer was just being stubborn and that many didnt like him. Check the game yourself, Fischer could have won it at some point if he had gone to a 2 rooks vs queen endgame earlier by exchanging his bishop for the opponent knight
but still good interview.. i loved how he said he was a stubborn man.. just like me.... i mean bobby.. and thats why i liked him.. and thats why they hate me..
There are certain times when its obvious its gonna end up a draw. For example with repetitive checks and so forth. It was gracious of him to offer it to Bobby.
@Minkki82 Just because your playing a GM doesn't mean your his bitch. If the position is obviously drawn than why waste time? I would've offered him a draw and told him to quit being such a stubborn baboon.
It is bad edicate to offer a GM ( grand master) a draw. I am a USCF expert rated 2105 and I would never offer a GM a draw. If you do they will just grind you down and they can do it. usually. A simul is diffrent as the GM is basicly playing a 2 minute game against 30 people or so. I had a draw from a 2600 IM in a game 45 ,but the IM offered it to me cause he was dead lost. Any way Kasparov would never have given a draw to some one that offers one ,just watch his simul in france here on youtube.
From what I hear it sounds like he did not like Fischer ? My USCF rating is about 2105 BTW. Sorry I just had to throw that in ,but did he not like Fischer for playing on ? Fischer was known to be a very good sport and very polite at the board always. He also was the only player to visit Tal when he was in the hospital at Curacao. None of his fellow russian players did. People never talk about the good things that Fischer did they only remember the bad stuff.
Bobby Fischer wasn't stuborn. A game may be drawn for 20 or 30 or even 50 moves but a grandmaster can win a drawn game if the master does not know how to draw that type of drawn end game position. A GM knows his territory and when he is in it or out of it.
@golferguy509 thats cool, dude I would have had great honor to have learned and to be taught by the legendary Anthony Koppany. I know of him very much, and he was very very good.
Nice story... And of course he thought he could win... I wouldn't accept a draw, let alone defeat, by a random person if I were any level of champion, or "Professional." (I know nothin' of tournament level chess, so sry for lack of terms.) But, if you earn it, you earn it. No way around it. You get my vote!
Nice little memory ... Thanks for sharing ... Fischer had the kind of fighting spirit that you rarely find these days. Our world championships end 1-0-456 draws. It is that spirit that drove him to dedicate his life to chess and to go for the win in every game. Did you know that he beat Spassky and won the championship by winning the 21st and final game? He could have drawn and won the crown, but, no, he went for the win in every game.
first of all, nice video, interestin little story not that known to the chess world I would assume (though I may be wrong) you seem a great man, this def doesnt seem coincidence I wish I could get some chess lessons from you... obviously it was you playin against one big ego at that time n you shattered with it that's for sure! greetings from Slovakia! PS: how long you've been playin to get on top? thx, M
Playing Fischer to a draw is no small accomplishment, very good game. I read that Fischer hated draws with a passion and often played out drawn positions in hopes of winning. This philosophy cost him game 1 against Spassky in 72 when they played for the world championship. Fischer was in a world all his own. I think the reason he refused to defend his title is that after winning the title there was nothing left to accomplish in chess. He simply gave up the game after this.
Just by the fact that you managed to draw Fischer, tells me that you are a great chess player. (Or had a bunch of luck hehe) But no serioulsy, good job.
And about Bobby Fischer rejecting the draw offer... well, he indeed was an stubborn man, and that plus the fact that he never surrendered easily to any game in particular lead him to reject it.
I can't blame him though, If I beat everyone else but one.. I will try my best to beat the last one as well.
ahhh i doubt fischer was going easy..just a case of this guy being still a pretty good player..he most likely played the game of his life..and fischer played a bad game for him..and they met as a draw....
spassky himself said that when he played fishcer he did not like draws, and that fischer liked to play it out for a while. fishcer had the utmost respect for spassky. who is this guy? btw, when bobby played boris, it was one on one!
I never played bobby fischer, but i did play artie bisguier, and he beat me, painlessly..god bless swizz tourneys, you never know who you might get first round....
in order to be the best, you can't just take a draw when position seems impossible...i don't blame Fischer...he really challenged himself by trying to break down the position of that Hungarian....so if you want to call that stubborn....well shit, i call that belief in his game and heart of a champion...Fischer was hungry for that win
the last question reveals that the interviewer doen't understand chess (not a critizism, just an observation) Bobby was not htinking he could "figure it out" he was thinking/hoping that the other guy could not figure out how to hold the draw - chess players will understand what I'm saying - I wish we could have seen the position at some point
it! that is why fisher played it out because he had pride in his game and his ego and he gave you specical attention out of respect for the fact that you drew him! good game,
you drew a champion... good game and for all that make this not about chess, to me he was a chess player end of story.
Fischer knew that his advantage increased the longer any game lasted...because his opponents were far more likely to make mistakes than he was. So that, combined with a few other factors like his ego, was probably why he never wanted to end early.
looked at the match.i m not such a genious player but why not playing it to the very end very nice game
thetubeyou1989 2 months ago
Don't forget, we're talking about Bobby Fischer here...the man was notorious for turning down draw offers from anyone, grandmasters to class E players.
lopezpfx 2 months ago
Super GMs like Bobby have alot of pride in their games, they don't want to accept a draw in a simul against someone thats 2200 ish if theres any play left in the position. Theres a simul of Kasparovs on youtube where he plays out a pawn and bishop endgame in a pretty drawish position and rejects the draw offer and ultimately grinds the win out of the endgame. I think Bobby was trying to do the same. Thanks for the video and respect to the intervewee!
Minkki82 4 months ago
Anthony Koppany passed away on Monday October 17th. He was a very gentle man, and he did not brag about playing Bobby Fischer. He just loved playing chess and it devistated him when he couldn't play any more. Great chess players are all stubborn, that's their amazing minds working!! :)
gthad2007 4 months ago
i suspect that Fischer concluded that the game was technically drawn well before he accepted the draw because he believed that there was a good chance that his opponent would make a mistake and thereby lose the game.
OceanderTethyseus 5 months ago
There are many reasons for not liking Fischer, the fact that he always plays for the win isn't one of them. With all due respect, this gentleman should have been honoured that Fischer wanted to keep playing.
bashbrannigan 7 months ago
@bashbrannigan , he was honoured.
gthad2007 4 months ago
you dont play and you dont live for somebody to like you
THEWSOP2011 8 months ago
I checked the game and I cant see why Fischer should have accepted the early draw, it is unfair from that man to imply that Fischer was just being stubborn and that many didnt like him. Check the game yourself, Fischer could have won it at some point if he had gone to a 2 rooks vs queen endgame earlier by exchanging his bishop for the opponent knight
fresniak 9 months ago
but still good interview.. i loved how he said he was a stubborn man.. just like me.... i mean bobby.. and thats why i liked him.. and thats why they hate me..
IBOUGHTYAMOM 10 months ago
@golferguy509 2185 strong?? considering that american players usually were weaker then soviet players
IBOUGHTYAMOM 10 months ago
I love this!
lbeagle 11 months ago
There are certain times when its obvious its gonna end up a draw. For example with repetitive checks and so forth. It was gracious of him to offer it to Bobby.
thisisgame 1 year ago
@thisisgame I disagree.. The GM should be the one offering the draw, not the otherway around.
Minkki82 4 months ago
@Minkki82 Just because your playing a GM doesn't mean your his bitch. If the position is obviously drawn than why waste time? I would've offered him a draw and told him to quit being such a stubborn baboon.
thisisgame 4 months ago
It is bad edicate to offer a GM ( grand master) a draw. I am a USCF expert rated 2105 and I would never offer a GM a draw. If you do they will just grind you down and they can do it. usually. A simul is diffrent as the GM is basicly playing a 2 minute game against 30 people or so. I had a draw from a 2600 IM in a game 45 ,but the IM offered it to me cause he was dead lost. Any way Kasparov would never have given a draw to some one that offers one ,just watch his simul in france here on youtube.
alexlancer11 1 year ago
From what I hear it sounds like he did not like Fischer ? My USCF rating is about 2105 BTW. Sorry I just had to throw that in ,but did he not like Fischer for playing on ? Fischer was known to be a very good sport and very polite at the board always. He also was the only player to visit Tal when he was in the hospital at Curacao. None of his fellow russian players did. People never talk about the good things that Fischer did they only remember the bad stuff.
alexlancer11 1 year ago 3
Bobby Fischer wasn't stuborn. A game may be drawn for 20 or 30 or even 50 moves but a grandmaster can win a drawn game if the master does not know how to draw that type of drawn end game position. A GM knows his territory and when he is in it or out of it.
DeepGlue555 1 year ago
@golferguy509 thats cool, dude I would have had great honor to have learned and to be taught by the legendary Anthony Koppany. I know of him very much, and he was very very good.
egertalex 1 year ago
Nice story... And of course he thought he could win... I wouldn't accept a draw, let alone defeat, by a random person if I were any level of champion, or "Professional." (I know nothin' of tournament level chess, so sry for lack of terms.) But, if you earn it, you earn it. No way around it. You get my vote!
RyuLoki 1 year ago
Nice little memory ... Thanks for sharing ... Fischer had the kind of fighting spirit that you rarely find these days. Our world championships end 1-0-456 draws. It is that spirit that drove him to dedicate his life to chess and to go for the win in every game. Did you know that he beat Spassky and won the championship by winning the 21st and final game? He could have drawn and won the crown, but, no, he went for the win in every game.
56richardcory 1 year ago
first of all, nice video, interestin little story not that known to the chess world I would assume (though I may be wrong) you seem a great man, this def doesnt seem coincidence I wish I could get some chess lessons from you... obviously it was you playin against one big ego at that time n you shattered with it that's for sure! greetings from Slovakia! PS: how long you've been playin to get on top? thx, M
majotnf 1 year ago
fantastic story well done for posting this :)
buzzbox2nd 1 year ago
Playing Fischer to a draw is no small accomplishment, very good game. I read that Fischer hated draws with a passion and often played out drawn positions in hopes of winning. This philosophy cost him game 1 against Spassky in 72 when they played for the world championship. Fischer was in a world all his own. I think the reason he refused to defend his title is that after winning the title there was nothing left to accomplish in chess. He simply gave up the game after this.
luke19631963 1 year ago 2
He knew he couldn't really lose, and he wouldn't want to look like he was giving up, so he played on.
soccom8341576 1 year ago
i think this guy is lieing or the video is fake
sanelyinsane4 1 year ago
Just by the fact that you managed to draw Fischer, tells me that you are a great chess player. (Or had a bunch of luck hehe) But no serioulsy, good job.
And about Bobby Fischer rejecting the draw offer... well, he indeed was an stubborn man, and that plus the fact that he never surrendered easily to any game in particular lead him to reject it.
I can't blame him though, If I beat everyone else but one.. I will try my best to beat the last one as well.
MagoMinelli 2 years ago
well he may not have been a master, but he must have been pretty dang good.
gqmighty 2 years ago
maby fisher just wanted to play and enjoy a game with a nother person after all chess is fun
MrMarson123456 2 years ago
ahhh i doubt fischer was going easy..just a case of this guy being still a pretty good player..he most likely played the game of his life..and fischer played a bad game for him..and they met as a draw....
gqmighty 2 years ago
what is the big deal?
he wanted to play it out a little further.
spassky himself said that when he played fishcer he did not like draws, and that fischer liked to play it out for a while. fishcer had the utmost respect for spassky. who is this guy? btw, when bobby played boris, it was one on one!
Commonsense11111 2 years ago
I never played bobby fischer, but i did play artie bisguier, and he beat me, painlessly..god bless swizz tourneys, you never know who you might get first round....
uselessjoe 2 years ago
Grand Master usually don't take draw against a lower rated player. Kasparov or Anand would have done the same thing too.
ani19bd 2 years ago
in order to be the best, you can't just take a draw when position seems impossible...i don't blame Fischer...he really challenged himself by trying to break down the position of that Hungarian....so if you want to call that stubborn....well shit, i call that belief in his game and heart of a champion...Fischer was hungry for that win
spanishjap4u 2 years ago 2
Please put the game on the "More Information", if possible...
jolweiss 3 years ago
question: Why did he ask a grandmaster for a draw? That's one of the 10 commandments of chess you do not break if you are not another GM .
gmwillis07 3 years ago
the last question reveals that the interviewer doen't understand chess (not a critizism, just an observation) Bobby was not htinking he could "figure it out" he was thinking/hoping that the other guy could not figure out how to hold the draw - chess players will understand what I'm saying - I wish we could have seen the position at some point
grandpatarzan 3 years ago 4
this is the best of youtube not the
1,223,333 views but the 500 or less
gems like this... nice story and you earned
it! that is why fisher played it out because he had pride in his game and his ego and he gave you specical attention out of respect for the fact that you drew him! good game,
you drew a champion... good game and for all that make this not about chess, to me he was a chess player end of story.
driftingtheworld 4 years ago 12
Very interesting.
GoldeWC 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this.
Fischer knew that his advantage increased the longer any game lasted...because his opponents were far more likely to make mistakes than he was. So that, combined with a few other factors like his ego, was probably why he never wanted to end early.
EGarrett01 4 years ago 4