They were built by O'Connor Enginering Labs in Costa Mesa, CA. I talked with Chadwell O'Connor about building replicas of the General and Texas, the engines of The Great Locomotive Chase but sadly, Georgia has NO interest in its railroading past.
@sewallm60 I know they're real steam engines. What I mean is that they're replicas of the Jupiter 60 and the Union Pacific 119. The original ones have been scrapped.
i would love to be the one thats sittin on the right-hand side and has his hand on the throttle......................................never seen an accurate full scale reproduction of these two.
@er10b I wonder how much trouble it would be to own one of these replicas and use it in excursion service in different cities. Thats pretty much my dream job, but it certainly would be the best i could think of aside from being the engineer on #844!
@Fireheart528 it's lots of trouble - you need wood, water, boiler inspections, safety tests and a lot of firelighters. You also need to clean the boiler pretty regularly to make sure you don't waste wood.
There's also fees you collect from your passengers so you can keep buying the things you need to keep the loco running (wood and water as mentioned above).
Other than that running a woodburning loco is a piece of cake.
@er10b How much do you think I'd need to start doing that? Bc if its possible, I'd do it. And recreate the journey across the Transcontinental Railway from Omaha to Sacramento as well.
@Fireheart528 Probably thousands of dollars - maybe more. You would also need to camp out considering the length of your journey - so a tent and some form of stove (plus cooking utensils, pots, pans, plates, knives and forks, washing detergent and all the necessary and sundry food items) would also be necessary. You would have to pay for this as well as the loco and what it needs to run, plus you would have to have some place to stash your camping gear while you were travelling.
@er10b Thanks. You happen to know how many coaches these engines can pull? I know of a site that sells railroad equipment. Theres a 2-8-0 for sale that could probly pull 3 or 4 heavyweight Pullman coaches; these ones would have to get custom built coaches and an auxiullary water tender.
@er10b Easily solvable--came across some former Conrail camp cars, but I'd also considered using a woodburning 4-6-0 with something like 70 inch drivers, or an EMD SD50/SD40-2 if i could ever get my hands on one. Which is the better choice in your opinion?
@er10b Ok, so if running these two wouldn't be too much trouble, what about an oil-burning 4-6-0/4-4-0 with 80 inch drivers? I was thinking of Southern Pacific E-11 4-4-0 # 1355.
I was there last Sunday. I'll tell you, these Engines are one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. And I'm not a hard core train freak but they really impressed me.
Yes, Chad O'Connor, the engineer who designed and built these beauties, went to a great deal of effort to make them authentic to scale, and accurate in design. There was a good video produced about the manufacturing of these locomotives: "Chad O'Connor - A steam driven man" if you're interested.
west of there you can drive on the old railroad bed. The first transcontinentql rail line runs on the north shore of the great salt lake. There are a few old gully bridges you have to bypass but you can drive on it for most of the route.
Yup, sure do. I think they run every day during summer. These are replica engines, so they don't take as much wear as the other authentically older locomotives.
they look fake to me ,like a small car chaiss is under there, the front wheels of 119 don't apeer to be on the track or going around
Dambo96 1 month ago
@Dambo96 I guess we have to read the book. Looked real enough to me
c2100 3 weeks ago
These are replicas, built in the '70s. They are 1:1 full scale replicas of the originals.
A relative was involved in building these, and wrote a book about the process.
dieselscout 2 months ago
They are magnificent. Can hardly believe what I'm seeing. Thank you!
speedstick77 5 months ago
It's a shame these two never leave the park. They'd be huge hits at any rail event they'd show up at
yerkees9891 5 months ago
@yerkees9891 Just picture it, Jupiter, #119, Leviathan, and William Mason all in one place
yerkees9891 5 months ago
they were scrapped DX i think they must be replicas
iliketrains2 5 months ago
They were built by O'Connor Enginering Labs in Costa Mesa, CA. I talked with Chadwell O'Connor about building replicas of the General and Texas, the engines of The Great Locomotive Chase but sadly, Georgia has NO interest in its railroading past.
JohnMGilbert 6 months ago
@JohnMGilbert Thanks for the insight
c2100 6 months ago
They sure did a great job, building these replicas.
Dinosorable 10 months ago
@Dinosorable An amazing sight
c2100 10 months ago
@c2100 Yeah. :)
Dinosorable 10 months ago
@Dinosorable these are not replicas they are repainted exsiting real life steam engines
sewallm60 6 months ago
@sewallm60 I know they're real steam engines. What I mean is that they're replicas of the Jupiter 60 and the Union Pacific 119. The original ones have been scrapped.
Dinosorable 6 months ago
i got the modle 94 3030 win golden spike conemerete rife.thats how ive heard of this place
techdeckdude245 1 year ago
@techdeckdude245 good work
c2100 1 year ago
i would love to be the one thats sittin on the right-hand side and has his hand on the throttle......................................never seen an accurate full scale reproduction of these two.
Fireheart528 1 year ago
@Fireheart528 i would too - and have my brother throwing the wood into the fire,
er10b 10 months ago
@er10b I wonder how much trouble it would be to own one of these replicas and use it in excursion service in different cities. Thats pretty much my dream job, but it certainly would be the best i could think of aside from being the engineer on #844!
Fireheart528 10 months ago
@Fireheart528 it's lots of trouble - you need wood, water, boiler inspections, safety tests and a lot of firelighters. You also need to clean the boiler pretty regularly to make sure you don't waste wood.
There's also fees you collect from your passengers so you can keep buying the things you need to keep the loco running (wood and water as mentioned above).
Other than that running a woodburning loco is a piece of cake.
er10b 10 months ago
@er10b How much do you think I'd need to start doing that? Bc if its possible, I'd do it. And recreate the journey across the Transcontinental Railway from Omaha to Sacramento as well.
Fireheart528 10 months ago
@Fireheart528 Probably thousands of dollars - maybe more. You would also need to camp out considering the length of your journey - so a tent and some form of stove (plus cooking utensils, pots, pans, plates, knives and forks, washing detergent and all the necessary and sundry food items) would also be necessary. You would have to pay for this as well as the loco and what it needs to run, plus you would have to have some place to stash your camping gear while you were travelling.
er10b 10 months ago
@er10b Thanks. You happen to know how many coaches these engines can pull? I know of a site that sells railroad equipment. Theres a 2-8-0 for sale that could probly pull 3 or 4 heavyweight Pullman coaches; these ones would have to get custom built coaches and an auxiullary water tender.
Fireheart528 10 months ago
@er10b Easily solvable--came across some former Conrail camp cars, but I'd also considered using a woodburning 4-6-0 with something like 70 inch drivers, or an EMD SD50/SD40-2 if i could ever get my hands on one. Which is the better choice in your opinion?
Fireheart528 8 months ago
@er10b Ok, so if running these two wouldn't be too much trouble, what about an oil-burning 4-6-0/4-4-0 with 80 inch drivers? I was thinking of Southern Pacific E-11 4-4-0 # 1355.
Fireheart528 6 months ago
I was there last Sunday. I'll tell you, these Engines are one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. And I'm not a hard core train freak but they really impressed me.
magprob 1 year ago
are these engines both operational ...and are they to scale???
redifreddy14 1 year ago 6
@redifreddy14 Both were operational and they certainly appear to be full size. Spectacular to watch.
c2100 1 year ago
Yes, Chad O'Connor, the engineer who designed and built these beauties, went to a great deal of effort to make them authentic to scale, and accurate in design. There was a good video produced about the manufacturing of these locomotives: "Chad O'Connor - A steam driven man" if you're interested.
MrMiner49r 1 year ago
@redifreddy14 easy way to find out--if the track is the old mainline through Promontory, Ut., then they should be full size.
Fireheart528 1 year ago
@redifreddy14 there standard gauge
timothy8727 1 year ago
just brings you back theat wild west feeling
KilleTheHedgehog8492 2 years ago
This aewsome locomotives!
augustoblues89 2 years ago 2
west of there you can drive on the old railroad bed. The first transcontinentql rail line runs on the north shore of the great salt lake. There are a few old gully bridges you have to bypass but you can drive on it for most of the route.
DSmith99000 2 years ago
holy crap, those engines are beautiful.
WhyAyeMann 2 years ago 8
They are a sight to behold
c2100 2 years ago
A positive experience I trust
c2100 2 years ago
SEEING THIS MAKES ME WANT 2 CRY
UNIONPACIFIC1 2 years ago
I went their today, May 10 2009
saloontamoon 2 years ago 2
I hope your enjoyed it as much as I did
c2100 2 years ago
How much track do thay have to run on out there? Do they run these locomotives
all of the time?
foxrivermotorman 3 years ago 2
Yup, sure do. I think they run every day during summer. These are replica engines, so they don't take as much wear as the other authentically older locomotives.
SierraRailway 2 years ago
Spectacular
c2100 3 years ago
THose are no doubt 2 of the most beautiful red engines in existance.
Chris9017 3 years ago 3
A great experience
c2100 3 years ago
cool
SPRRguy99 3 years ago