Seriously if he got in my face like that and threatened to bite my nose off with violence I would of smashed him so hard in the face with the board in self defence and you would of gotten away with it. Everyone is equal before the law, don't EVER let someone disrespect and threaten you and get in your personal space like that, it's all a preemptive strike. Fuck that guy was so rude and thinks he has authority, makes my blood boil
Sidewalks and stairs get damaged by anything and everyone that walks or runs by them every day including from weather elements this guy is just a prick, and he so lucky that the rest didn't surround his dumbass when he got in that kids face. And who the hell in their right mind spends $30,000 on repairs for a set of fuckin stairs?
I wouldnt of even left haha. 90% of the stuff the guy was saying was bullshit. He said fuck the church and god when he is telling you its disrespectful to skate there, What a stupid way to contradict yourself lol.
fucking old ass cunts always telling skaters where they can and cannot skate. last time i checked i didn't see a sign on that specfic building saying no tresspassing, then you can't tell me i can't fucking move. I bet you don't even own the fucking property, so move the fuck on. -_-
THEY LET HIM GET THE UPPER HAND AND HE JUST KEPT GOING WITH IT,KIDS ARE TENDER LITTLE PUSSIES TODAY THEY EVEN LOOK SOFT AND TENDER, THAT GUY WOULD HAVE GOT CRACKED WITH A BOARD AND SENT DOWN THE STAIRS FOR QUICK BEATING AND WHAT KIND OF FAGGOTS DRIVE TO SKATE
MARK SOMERS THE VINDICTIVE JANITOR OUT FOR JUSTICE HES A LOOSE CANNON BUM WITH A BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL OF 25% MARK SOMERS HE FIGHTS HE BITES HE SMITES UNDERAGE SKATERS!!!
lol passive aggressive faggot skaters. Find a new fuckin spot instead of acting all innocent and trying to get him to apologize? Who even acts like this?
first of all... everyone knows god skates he would shred it up on those stairs no doubt. that guy had no right to say f*** the church and he was talking about respect. thats not even close to respect so i say MARK SOMERS should burn in hell. :D
@hammertv412 clearly my set up has more than just the body. Eeeeheeemmmm and i also bout it almost a year ago and since they have released a new camera since then the 7d dropped in price
@FreedomAtRisk No the guy is fucking right. I have no problem whatsoever with skaters, but if they would mess up even the sidewalk or something of the place i would work, i' d tell them to fuck off and live by the rules that prevent people from shooting at skaters cuz they won't listen....
i like how they all act like smartasses until the guy gets crazy on them and they hold their boards up and pussy out haha these kids are disrespectful assholes, most skaters are.
@AndrewTheBowse since i wasnt talking to you, or anyone at all, i was merely making a general statement, i have to assume that you suffer from ld syndrome, so i will of course let your tourettes-like outburst go without any response.
God didn't "give" us faith, he "gave" us the freedom to choose. Swearing is NOT a sin. This is why most skater carry cameras because if they didn't most of them would end up dead in a ditch somewhere because their smart mouths and their arrogant belief of entitlement that they can go on someones personal property and do what they want. FUCK SKATERS!!!!
@cblackburn40 first of all fuck off they dont carry cameras for "insurance" purposes they carry them to record tricks and not all skaters are arrogant shits
@lildarkling248 bad ass. I didn't say "all" skaters...I said most. And most of the ones that I've come across act this way. My son is a skater, he knows better than talk that way to me, because I would lay him out, but I've seen video of him and his friends skating and they act like spoiled little punks!
@cblackburn40 you are absolutely retarded and swearing is a sin. you are a fucking dad and your son is a skater and you are starting shit with a bunch of minors over a youtube video. I am glad my dad is not a fucking homo and i feel really bad for your son seeing as now he has to live knowing that his dad likes the cock. The crazy fuck in this video also thought that he could go onto the church property and start yelling at us.it is not his church and he is not a police officer.
@AndrewTheBowse Swearing is not a sin you jackass motherfucker..nowhere in the bible does it even reference swearing. The only sin is using the lords name in vain. Second of all my son would never skate on private property without permission, he has respect for others and himself, he's not a douche like you. Also citizens DO have the right to detain or arrest you. It's called a citizen's arrest. Would you ever talk shit to your dad? I hope not. Hope you were taught better.
honestly i used to skate and i am 27 years old now. The skaters now adays have no respect at ALL. they are all little punks and will grind anything they can that looks fresh and good. The guy was in the right for telling them to leave but the swearing an threatening was a little over the top but sometimes the punks wont learn .
@N1LLERRR how? please explain because you know its not right to damage property go to a skate park or build your own shit like i did buy a fun box street skating all you are is asking for trouble eventually.
@fizzzzaa1 Why is he a cunt? He said skaters have damaged the property before, and there are signs there. He wants to protect his community from these disrespectful skater punks.
@TheOnlyexisting theledge hasalwahys been skater blocked so nobody can skate it at all. not to mention urethane wheels are not going to destroy those concrete steps
You really put up with this shit? Hit the old ass faggot and walk away. He can't fight for shit, he thinks god is going to come down and save him but he forgets that god stopped giving a shit a few hundred years ago.
Why does he keep saying stuff about disrespect? I mean I'm not a religious person but I'm nearly positive its more disrespectful to stand up in front of a church and swear like he did.
First one to say, I don't particularly care for skateboarders; but if I was walking by and a man threatened to bite a kid's nose off (not matter the situation) I would beat him until I could no longer move.
that skater shits his pants when the guy gets in his face id have just droped the fool if he got in my face like that fact: people that act aggressive like that are usually pussy's
I would be pissed if I just remodeled and you were grinding the paint off of my railing! Go to a skatepark or somewhere that isn't newly done. Maybe even ask permission which is what WE used to do...
skater kids are scared shitless hahahaha
agua414 26 minutes ago
back off mun, chill
Patritz 2 hours ago
i'm more interested in the camera the chick has hahaha
MomoPr0ductions 3 hours ago
is this Arlington, Tx?
CentralTXPerformance 3 hours ago
Seriously if he got in my face like that and threatened to bite my nose off with violence I would of smashed him so hard in the face with the board in self defence and you would of gotten away with it. Everyone is equal before the law, don't EVER let someone disrespect and threaten you and get in your personal space like that, it's all a preemptive strike. Fuck that guy was so rude and thinks he has authority, makes my blood boil
AnonHancock 4 hours ago
god dont like that man !
fboy125 7 hours ago
you left why?
1Bland1 10 hours ago
I want to see the next people that come!
turkieburkie321 10 hours ago
that guy is a legend!
TheJoeFaulkner 12 hours ago
Plus skaters are NOT dope dealers
ridder6689 12 hours ago
Sidewalks and stairs get damaged by anything and everyone that walks or runs by them every day including from weather elements this guy is just a prick, and he so lucky that the rest didn't surround his dumbass when he got in that kids face. And who the hell in their right mind spends $30,000 on repairs for a set of fuckin stairs?
ridder6689 13 hours ago
HAIL SATAN
MrStrontkut 17 hours ago
Mark Summers, got it
Tanner1178 17 hours ago
'I paid 3000 dollars for this camera' Fuck off ya stupid spoiled trustfond baby.
VortexMatter 18 hours ago
I wouldnt of even left haha. 90% of the stuff the guy was saying was bullshit. He said fuck the church and god when he is telling you its disrespectful to skate there, What a stupid way to contradict yourself lol.
wadacash 19 hours ago
You should have ollied down the steps just to piss him off lol
cenatron98 20 hours ago
fucking old ass cunts always telling skaters where they can and cannot skate. last time i checked i didn't see a sign on that specfic building saying no tresspassing, then you can't tell me i can't fucking move. I bet you don't even own the fucking property, so move the fuck on. -_-
oddxtacosxjerk 21 hours ago
you shouldnt have left
penguiiin 23 hours ago
fucking language SPEAKING GERMAN madafuckers
alcicek46 1 day ago
THEY LET HIM GET THE UPPER HAND AND HE JUST KEPT GOING WITH IT,KIDS ARE TENDER LITTLE PUSSIES TODAY THEY EVEN LOOK SOFT AND TENDER, THAT GUY WOULD HAVE GOT CRACKED WITH A BOARD AND SENT DOWN THE STAIRS FOR QUICK BEATING AND WHAT KIND OF FAGGOTS DRIVE TO SKATE
IS THIS CANADA????
DoinDabzByTheSlabs 1 day ago
NUT CASE
MARK SOMERS THE VINDICTIVE JANITOR OUT FOR JUSTICE HES A LOOSE CANNON BUM WITH A BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL OF 25% MARK SOMERS HE FIGHTS HE BITES HE SMITES UNDERAGE SKATERS!!!
WHAT A CUNT BAG
DoinDabzByTheSlabs 1 day ago
if he said to me i'll bite ur nose of i'd know him out, u bunch of pussy's, why did u have that
scotty4fingers 1 day ago
@kylebikesfit They were giving the crackhead just as respect as he deserved.
LAMBORGHINIFR33K 1 day ago
i wouldve beat theee crap out of that tweeker just saying,taha
swaqqer50 1 day ago
HAHAHAHA THIS IS HILARIOUS
afro20man 1 day ago
Wow a angry crack head ask people to get off the church cause they are just sitting there thats like telling a baby to get the fuck off his stroller
thumbs up so crack heads wont make the same mistake
DuhFall 1 day ago
Kids are soft...
kylebikesfit 1 day ago
lol he asks god to come down
MxRider1997 1 day ago
the kid who talks alot sounds like eric forman when he gets all "calm down, im picking up my stuff"
TheInSaNiTyyyyyyy 1 day ago
if he screamed at my face like that i would bitch slap the shit out of that hobo looking satanic dude
hak13sk8 1 day ago
i respect you held your ground ha
kkes1000 1 day ago
respect... respect... RESPECT ! RESPECT!!!!
DJxXxLOL 1 day ago
the guy whit the black purple hood looks like Tanner Foust =)
robinskate123 1 day ago
this guy lacks education
mjndblain 1 day ago
The burn out hippie old man called you guys "dope dealers" haha awesome ignorance
monkeyearcheese420 2 days ago
@monkeyearcheese420 thats not an example of ignorance.
Ignorant.
FarnorthNS11 1 day ago
when that guy stands in front of jesus, boy is he gonna start crying. lol
ajstheman45 2 days ago
@ajstheman45 nah, fuck jesus, Muhammad all the way
xomiakas 2 days ago
My crew woulda just got together and jumped him. If anybody touches you, u have the right to defend yourself. And amen for tacos.
imcoollikethatish 2 days ago
girl is cute though
drunyon88 2 days ago
lol passive aggressive faggot skaters. Find a new fuckin spot instead of acting all innocent and trying to get him to apologize? Who even acts like this?
drunyon88 2 days ago
i love tags
JaydenSkates666 2 days ago
LMAO "The Popo Pin" Sounds Fun!!!
BackAlleyPro 2 days ago
The kids are pretty funny but they bitch out sooo hard
DylWarXXX 2 days ago
He just fucked with skateboarding and God.. Oh wait and his dignity
godprince8 2 days ago
first of all... everyone knows god skates he would shred it up on those stairs no doubt. that guy had no right to say f*** the church and he was talking about respect. thats not even close to respect so i say MARK SOMERS should burn in hell. :D
josh21398 2 days ago
what none of you know is that later that day, the old guy was killed crossing the street in front of this same church. RIP Mark Somers
ePolanski 2 days ago 2
these kids are faggots. They make me hate my generation.
derdydave 2 days ago
@derdydave I hate americans
AndrewTheBowse 2 days ago
@AndrewTheBowse k well i'm an american so fuck you cunt.
derdydave 2 days ago
Oh, and what type of camera are you using?
TheAngelocool123 2 days ago
I like his sweater.
TheAngelocool123 2 days ago
crack head
sacravilla 2 days ago
@VancouverLion5 I could make statements all I want u fuckin discombobulated fagot! If you know what that means.
ESEPOLARONER 2 days ago
The 7D isnt $3,000 its $1,600 body only...Eeeheeemmmm
hammertv412 3 days ago
@hammertv412 clearly my set up has more than just the body. Eeeeheeemmmm and i also bout it almost a year ago and since they have released a new camera since then the 7d dropped in price
AndrewTheBowse 2 days ago
The Devil came for your souls
cantfindaloginname1 3 days ago
4:14 "GET THE FFFFFFFFFUCK OUT OF HERE!" loooooool!
atomdragon4 3 days ago
god is gonna take you to hell for swearing
i dont give a fuck...lololo
TheBlackopsgirl18 3 days ago
U white boys r pussy's!!! If some1 were to go up2 my face like that I would've knocked em out!!!
ESEPOLARONER 3 days ago
@ESEPOLARONER don't generalize. If you know what that means.
VancouverLion5 3 days ago
@ESEPOLARONER Me 2 br0 wan 2 FITE aN STUF YEH BR0 !@!!!!!!111111
N1LLERRR 2 days ago
@guitarsomethin Go suck the devils dick!
ESEPOLARONER 3 days ago
Swearing is a sin? ugh...
yeahtoast2011 3 days ago
@RainstormInSpace and most wanna be boxers post 10 minute videos while they go half ass'd on a 70 pound bag
AndrewTheBowse 3 days ago
@AndrewTheBowse man youre crazy!
RainstormInSpace 3 days ago
30,000$...should've spent some of that money on anger-management dude :)
MTGSilverBullet 3 days ago
"we" spent 30k in repairs. yea right, more like this guy takes 30k per year of the government between all his entitlements
FreedomAtRisk 3 days ago 17
@FreedomAtRisk No the guy is fucking right. I have no problem whatsoever with skaters, but if they would mess up even the sidewalk or something of the place i would work, i' d tell them to fuck off and live by the rules that prevent people from shooting at skaters cuz they won't listen....
cavello89 1 day ago
NICE CAMRAS!
ThePigZebra 3 days ago
i like how they all act like smartasses until the guy gets crazy on them and they hold their boards up and pussy out haha these kids are disrespectful assholes, most skaters are.
RainstormInSpace 3 days ago
@RainstormInSpace your a fucking loser
AndrewTheBowse 3 days ago
@AndrewTheBowse since i wasnt talking to you, or anyone at all, i was merely making a general statement, i have to assume that you suffer from ld syndrome, so i will of course let your tourettes-like outburst go without any response.
RainstormInSpace 3 days ago
damn, lol the moment he said he'd bite my nose off i'd fucking run xD psycho
TheLife1989 3 days ago
God didn't "give" us faith, he "gave" us the freedom to choose. Swearing is NOT a sin. This is why most skater carry cameras because if they didn't most of them would end up dead in a ditch somewhere because their smart mouths and their arrogant belief of entitlement that they can go on someones personal property and do what they want. FUCK SKATERS!!!!
cblackburn40 3 days ago
@cblackburn40 suck a dick
jokerface1996 3 days ago
@jokerface1996 You must be a skater, so I'm sure you know more about that than me.
cblackburn40 3 days ago
@cblackburn40 first of all fuck off they dont carry cameras for "insurance" purposes they carry them to record tricks and not all skaters are arrogant shits
lildarkling248 3 days ago
@lildarkling248 bad ass. I didn't say "all" skaters...I said most. And most of the ones that I've come across act this way. My son is a skater, he knows better than talk that way to me, because I would lay him out, but I've seen video of him and his friends skating and they act like spoiled little punks!
cblackburn40 3 days ago
@cblackburn40 you are absolutely retarded and swearing is a sin. you are a fucking dad and your son is a skater and you are starting shit with a bunch of minors over a youtube video. I am glad my dad is not a fucking homo and i feel really bad for your son seeing as now he has to live knowing that his dad likes the cock. The crazy fuck in this video also thought that he could go onto the church property and start yelling at us.it is not his church and he is not a police officer.
AndrewTheBowse 3 days ago
@AndrewTheBowse Swearing is not a sin you jackass motherfucker..nowhere in the bible does it even reference swearing. The only sin is using the lords name in vain. Second of all my son would never skate on private property without permission, he has respect for others and himself, he's not a douche like you. Also citizens DO have the right to detain or arrest you. It's called a citizen's arrest. Would you ever talk shit to your dad? I hope not. Hope you were taught better.
cblackburn40 3 days ago
haha he is wearing flip flops haha
TWagz97 3 days ago
o ass hole go to hell basterd lil asss im f***in pist
G0Pr0Bmx 3 days ago
fuck nall bitch nigga ass pussys they should have beenlike biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch im the shit fuck you
onebaddeck666 3 days ago
@onebaddeck666 your fuckin stupid.
rabidsnake123 3 days ago
These passive aggressive pussies make my eyes hurt.
MANOFPOWER1 3 days ago
@MANOFPOWER1 your videos are gay you have no life and make shitty animations
AndrewTheBowse 3 days ago
30,000 dollars in repairs geez
MrSoldierboi420 3 days ago
I think that dude might've actually bit his nose off with a little more backtalk.
lordcadburyhopkins 3 days ago
he kinda looks like clint eastwood
PUSPUSinthaBUSHBUSH 3 days ago
these kids r fucking pussies
nickchagoberi 3 days ago
they are all stupid because they believe in god!
guitarsomethin 4 days ago
@guitarsomethin many worlds interpretation, god exists, fuck you....
iamgig9876 3 days ago
The girl is pretty cute.
XSymbolisticX 4 days ago
That white kid stands like a girl, right hand on his hip, lol what a sissy
XSymbolisticX 4 days ago
@XSymbolisticX everybody in this video was white except the girl. you are straight fucking retarded
AndrewTheBowse 3 days ago 14
I'LL FUCKIN BITE YUR FUCKIN NOSE OFF!
vampireB3AN 4 days ago
dnt offend god u fucking bastard go to hell!!
HasakiOrame 4 days ago
i would've fucked him up so bad haha i dont give a fuck how old he is
LukugetdaBETCHZ 4 days ago
@LukugetdaBETCHZ oooooo tough guy, stfu no one cares what u would have done...
hitter1 3 days ago
@hitter1 huh? i dont see you cuh
LukugetdaBETCHZ 3 days ago
no fight!?!?what da hell!!
rambo8875 4 days ago
wait y is he protecting the church if he doesnt even like god?
LoveSkilar 4 days ago 2
@LoveSkilar I respect religious people and their churches and I'm an atheist
AlwaysLearningTech 4 days ago
what camera were u using to film
flarebomb123 4 days ago
@flarebomb123 gh2
AndrewTheBowse 4 days ago
Why doesn't anybody just physically force the skaters away. Look at these pussies.
andrew31593 4 days ago
@MrCmonster13 No my friend, YOU are gay
DUMBARZEZ 4 days ago
AS SOON AS HE TOUCHED ME I WOULD HAVE LAID THE FUCKER OUT ,,,,
southsd1606 4 days ago
skaters are gay
MrCmonster13 4 days ago
30,000 dollars for stairs
oscarberad 4 days ago
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walmartian 4 days ago
Wonder who paid for that pussies $5,000 camera.
WillTrollForTatertot 5 days ago
@WillTrollForTatertot u troll :)
DontClickMyChannel13 4 days ago
@WillTrollForTatertot since you trolled. you get 3 tatertots xD keep it up ha!
MellaRawr 4 days ago
@WillTrollForTatertot me because I work full time.
AndrewTheBowse 4 days ago
doesnt insulting someone you dont beleive in sort of defeat the purpose
SlingShotEllington45 5 days ago
xDDDDD i can break this 4 gays together
ilan0159 5 days ago
fucking skateboarders!
norwegianterminator 5 days ago
honestly i used to skate and i am 27 years old now. The skaters now adays have no respect at ALL. they are all little punks and will grind anything they can that looks fresh and good. The guy was in the right for telling them to leave but the swearing an threatening was a little over the top but sometimes the punks wont learn .
99bleeder 5 days ago
@99bleeder You're a moron.
N1LLERRR 4 days ago
@N1LLERRR how? please explain because you know its not right to damage property go to a skate park or build your own shit like i did buy a fun box street skating all you are is asking for trouble eventually.
99bleeder 4 days ago
@99bleeder the only thing I am grinding to look fresh and good is your wife.
AndrewTheBowse 4 days ago
@AndrewTheBowse ahh big talk over the net keep up the tough guy persona on the net because you damn sure wouldnt say that to my face punk.
99bleeder 4 days ago
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AndrewTheBowse 4 days ago
anyone down to bukkake that girl with me?
ArjunTabungar 5 days ago
@ArjunTabungar Lets do it!
MrPantaloonz 4 days ago
id go with him one on one, his a hard cunt :L
FIFAFANATICOS 5 days ago
Anti God Rant > Skateboarders
TheFighterDude1 5 days ago
You should put the address of this place up, just to really annoy this cunt
fizzzzaa1 5 days ago 17
@fizzzzaa1 Why is he a cunt? He said skaters have damaged the property before, and there are signs there. He wants to protect his community from these disrespectful skater punks.
gladegaurd 3 days ago
The old guy with the church said fuck to God
cbadchadman34 5 days ago
Let me fuck that girl
Havefunkush 5 days ago in playlist bitches
God this guy is crazy
Abstractionant 5 days ago
Wow fuck him for saying what he said.
2014PimpDaddy 5 days ago
30,000 dollars my ass
FastLikeSquirrel1 5 days ago
@FastLikeSquirrel1 umm yeah concerete is not cheap... plus the ledges and all it probably really was 30k...
TheOnlyexisting 4 days ago
@TheOnlyexisting theledge hasalwahys been skater blocked so nobody can skate it at all. not to mention urethane wheels are not going to destroy those concrete steps
AndrewTheBowse 4 days ago
@3:55 THIS DUDE STARTED SPITTING THAT RAP
gaznom 5 days ago
"Ill bite ur fucking nose off" "ur swearing at or near a church thats a sin" :"its not a fucking sin" "it is EVERY thing's a sin."
KillerShadow66 5 days ago
this guys on crack
1elvisapresley 5 days ago
Should of hopped the set on the way out..
tagodman 5 days ago
4:03 DAT ASS
atomdragon4 5 days ago 6
@atomdragon4 I was thinking the same thing.
OhIvey 5 days ago
@atomdragon4 you need yo get out more lmao
99bleeder 3 days ago
ahaha that old guy is a pussy BAHAHAH all talk man
MW3insanity 5 days ago
Meth head
MrDoMiniCanPrinCe881 5 days ago
ima add him on facebook :)
xXexenarothXx 6 days ago
swearing is a sin but fuck it haha,
carlaandjack4eva 6 days ago
Mark Summers would fuck these little pussies up.
shtgunfacelift 6 days ago
Mark Summers is a dick!
Chinasteve 6 days ago
You really put up with this shit? Hit the old ass faggot and walk away. He can't fight for shit, he thinks god is going to come down and save him but he forgets that god stopped giving a shit a few hundred years ago.
ZhenProductions 6 days ago
What camera you using? Nice quality!
Chuckalakala 6 days ago
this guy is crazy, but fucking awesome
seanfleming2 6 days ago
Lol chuggs a coldshot
holyfuckitsjustin 6 days ago
Why does he keep saying stuff about disrespect? I mean I'm not a religious person but I'm nearly positive its more disrespectful to stand up in front of a church and swear like he did.
MissLeahMitchell 6 days ago
nice camera quality
AfroXJack 6 days ago
30k damage for doing flip tricks of stairs..... What a crackhead.
omarvissepo35 6 days ago
First one to say, I don't particularly care for skateboarders; but if I was walking by and a man threatened to bite a kid's nose off (not matter the situation) I would beat him until I could no longer move.
blibjersey 6 days ago
i wana punch the old guy
robato1997 6 days ago
the old guy was right, these stupid ass skaters trying to get their way
garrysmodd 6 days ago
@garrysmodd hey fuck that shit man i dont know what shit u talking bout
blackkendallking1257 6 days ago
I want that deck lol
04lpuit 6 days ago
the kid with the long hair is so chilled lol
onetufmuffin69 6 days ago
ill bite your fucking nose off
imonaboatland 6 days ago 32
Ephesians 4:29 nuff said
xangomonn 6 days ago
why wasnt that dvx rolling?
seanthefilmer1 6 days ago
@seanthefilmer1 its a dvx thats why
AndrewTheBowse 4 days ago
i would have smacked him in the head the board
maori682 6 days ago
that skater shits his pants when the guy gets in his face id have just droped the fool if he got in my face like that fact: people that act aggressive like that are usually pussy's
guyvstanworth 6 days ago
@guyvstanworth people who aren't active much are like fucking ninjas, lol
RealDECKED 6 days ago
DICKS
jdbrad07 6 days ago
im a christian an i dont disagree and who ever that dude his go EAT A SACK OF BABY
jdbrad07 6 days ago
im going there were is that place
biddycy 6 days ago
i'd tap that girl's ass :D
niMadresPedro 6 days ago
I would be pissed if I just remodeled and you were grinding the paint off of my railing! Go to a skatepark or somewhere that isn't newly done. Maybe even ask permission which is what WE used to do...