Mike Phillips scores try against Ireland 12.03.2011

[GaryTss]

it's time like this I'm happy the french played SHITE and still knocked you out of the WC, pure arrogance, it was totally illegal, don't moan about warbuton when you can't admit your own faults

[MrStonecold69]

there were over 70,000 welsh there and the only HONEST one

JONATHAN DAVIES

[dragonbreathinfire]

WALES

[zisssssou]

pure calculated cheating, shame on the touch ref for not seeing that and shame on Rees for having premeditate it

[jellyboy123]

lol 19.2(d) Wales probably would have won anyway.

[xxxKEALYxxx]

Bullshit

[Mynciboo]

I love the smiles on the welsh players' faces when its called, cos they all know it was cheated :D WALES FTW!!!!!

[vsexywelshsmurf]

mike and mathew rees were fast enouff to figure out what they could gain by this ......... and wales wud of wone anyway ... mike phillips .... watta lejend!!!!

[twotellys12]

Wales dominated that game and missed 4 penalties, Wales did the right thing, its the linesman who fucked it up. a good win for the welsh, Besides,wales destroyed ireland in the wold cup shortly after soooooo. 

[h7p10]

Thanks a lot Ball Boy ..... lol

[horsetug]

They knew what they were doing. It's about time Wales had something go there way

[rugjacksby]

This is a quality picture

[will15729]

To be fair the the hooker probbably didnt know that it was the wrong ball and its the refs job to ref the game, not the players, they are always going to try to bend the rules

[dazziola]

@will15729 Ah in fairness, before the lineout was taken, the Welsh player nearest the bottom of the screen gathers the right ball, then just tosses it into touch when he see's them attempting the quick line out. Opportunistic f*ckers, they know the ruls, they should play by them. Ireland to hammer them come Sunday

[callummj6747]

i was there, it was a hysterically bad call by the officials but you play to the whistle, all the best players in the world are cheats, McCaw is a fine example :L

[AbleWorksOfficial]

I was there!

[TheMcOdela]

Please, dont get me wrong (for the Welsh people) but the rule is rule. And you have to obey them...

[TheMcOdela]

Yeap, this was fault. The quick line-out is not permitted when somebody else touches the ball, especially when its out of field, and especially when the opp squad is near the line.

[gavthe16]

To be honest, i think that was shambles, im welsh but that try should of never happened, but then again it always comes and bites u back on the arse with the ref getting it wrong.........fuck alain roland

[zachdaspac]

I personally think that the rule about the ball being the same is stupid and that was an ownage try and at the end of the day Wales won :D

[Moonshine12]

Lol at the guy doing a little jump at 2:21 as Phillips scores.

[bobcoolbobyeah]

Shouldn't have counted............but who cares?

Cymru am byth!

[punchthedog]

@bobcoolbobyeah 6,000,000+ Irish people.

[LostprophetsAngel01]

This Made me a Happy Welsh Girl!! Go Mike!! :D xx

[hyllaf]

ahwell....he ony fucked you again in the World Cup 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!

[colemanmt1979]

Because the Irish have never benefited from a dodgy refereeing call have they. Change the record.

[oggiemc83]

that touch judge is some can of piss..

[paulieccc]

Ref Kaplan again.. Surprise surprise.

[Demonarrows]

By the way the referee cannot go to the TMO because you can only use the TMO "in the act of scoring" he cannot rule on other things

[sjcindiedrums]

@Demonarrows yea but still the side judge said that he was sure it was the same ball which tecnically is wrong as we know it wasnt and in situations like that it should be ok!

[Demonarrows]

Im welsh and we really dont care about the missed kick, it was early in the game and had no impact on the final score, there was another penalty missed and a drop goal..it all amounts to chances wasted, we had chances to win..if those kicks were still missed and a tackle was made stopping one of the boks tries we would have won...all adds up to the same.

[fazer990]

All I can say is. Karma is a bitch. Look at what happened to Wales with that penalty Hook put over which the referee Wayne Barnes didn't allow when he could have gone to the video ref.

[wo0dy1]

reading through some comments from months gone where welsh people are agreeing they cheated the irish, saying things like 'that is teh way the game goes sometimes' how do you feel now about the 14th min kick hook did against Sa that was called as a miss... ??

[AustinTassletine]

@wo0dy1 As a Welshman, I can tell you. I feel exactly the same. The kick was early in the game and we had chances to win the match towards the end of it which we should have taken. We didn't lose the match because of it. Ireland should have beaten Wales as they had a 4 on 1 overlap that they managed to completely botch, right at the death. So enough whinging now.

[wo0dy1]

@AustinTassletine not whining.. just asking.. im sick of the welsh fans going on an on about it.. saw this video and they are happy if they cheat and it goes their way, an thats just how the game goes some times, but dont seem to accept thats how the game goes sometimes when its against them..

[AustinTassletine]

@wo0dy1 Do you mean the Wlesh fans going on about this or the SA game? Because I know NO ONE in Wales who is bothered by the "kick that wasn't". It was all over the press because it seemed like a good story to the uninitiated (and RWC time is when the game gets most publicity). We should have won the game and we didn't take our chances. Just like Ireland against Wales.

[shanedlfc]

Yogamoshi lol ur an idiot! Since when can you take a quick line out with a diffetant ball dumbass! BOD is GOD

[vernystinger]

How many times have Ireland cheated ?!!! Get over it !!

[RhysCahalane]

If the referee says its a try then it is a try. Simple as. Wasn't a good try, but it was a try.

[raydesut]

Kaplan has been suspended for his atrocious decision. He has a history of this sort of thing.

[Boo5Productions]

As a Welsh man may I say 'Yes you were cheated' but that is the way the game goes sometimes. By the way I lost my voice whe you played England yesterday - fantastic game, superb result. Well done Ireland.

[Kituro96]

it wasn't a fair try but wales did out class us. anyway we beat england and that's is what that counts. the quality of the video was pretty sweet

[dalymc]

*sigh* INDEED!!!!! DISGRACEFUL BY THE LINESMAN!

[Lekkasport]

Future games should have 1 match ball available and then drag the game out another 10 minutes, like American Football as I do enjoy an extra hot dog while watching a sporting event.

On a serious note , why do the NH insist on using SH referees ?

[kitkatthecool]

Welsh are cheats and this is not the first time,Cardiff did this against Australia back in the early 1980s

[smzf]

strictly speaking the try was a little dodgy, however you have to credit the quick thinking by the welsh. Whats a lot more frustrating is how ireland and the northern hemisphere teams have seriously declined before the start of a world cup, with england being an exception. now that i think of it australia, and south africa are also fielding substandard teams. i think it could be a disappointing rwc.

[shadowkunt]

@smzf

No. The try was in every sense, and for more than one reason, illegal. It was not "strictly speaking a little dodgy".

[smzf]

@shadowkunt If ireland had scored it we wouldn't be complaining. they got away with it, doubt anyone else will in future as the breach of rules has been noted. ireland were way too slow in reacting to the quick line out and its that slackness thats been the biggest disappointment over the past two years

[tony10396861]

@smzf Ireland knew that a quick lineout couldn't be taken because 1) a spectator had touched the ball 2) it was a different ball. That's kinda the point.....

[vernystinger]

When you say about the Irish spoiling and slowing the game down they say you have to play the whistle to justify their blatant cheating . When something like the Phillips try happens against them they're up in arms . Even paddy power gave the betting money back ..... Grow up !!

[shadowkunt]

@vernystinger

There is a difference between playing on the edge of the rules and occasionally not being penalized for it, and getting a free, game winning, seven points. Wales were dire in that match, they never ever looked like scoring a try legally. Ireland were pretty dire themselves but they still had the game under control.

[albiethomas]

All of you Calling Wales cheaters, we aint, we took a risk and won (:, the touch judge failed on his Job, great try (: COMON WALES, CYRMU AM BYTH !!! 

[shadowkunt]

If running in an illegal try against an unset defense is considered a "great try" in Wales then I pity you and your rugby!!

[TigerGuy13]

IMO the "wrong" ball furore is a red herring!

look at 1:59

Touch judge is making the mark, hooker is ON the mark throwing in straight (therefore NOT a "quick" throw ruling out wrong ball issue!) Phillips is coming from onside position, all good ..... BUT the lineout IS illegal as Wales cleary do NOT have the minimum 2 players in the lineout!

probably still no consolation for the Irish fans sorry

[yogamoshi567]

Whoops, sorry that was a fair try. The Rules say: Once the hooker and touchjudge are together, then its a lineout (not a quick one), but if you're going to get pissy the irish try came from a forward pass.

[shadowkunt]

@yogamoshi567

That was in no way a "fair try" and no one who is even vaguely objective thinks it was. Also, missing a barely forward pass in a good attacking piece of play is hardly the same as gifting a team seven points for an easy, illegal try against an unset defense.

Wales cheated. Is it the end of the world? No. Sometimes decisions go against you. But please stop trying to pretend you won fairly. Wales were actually worse than Ireland in that match which was pretty amazing itself.

[yogamoshi567]

@shadowkunt C'mon I'm Irish and Wales outclassed us all game. They defended 10 times better than we did, it was a fair try, even if it wasn't they still would have beat us. A good game, but I don't know why everyother Irishmen can't accept it.

[gta4motherf]

@shadowkunt you sir is a knob, wales were way way way better in that game so shut it

[GregChiv]

The touch judge made one mistake the whole game and ireland still blame him.. they had half hour to beat wales but didn't

[seanamhoinin]

@GregChiv As an Irish man, i completely agree. BOD said he saw it in the screen with 20 to go an complained to ref that it was a momentum changer. His mind had gone. A mistake by paddy Wallace cost us a try at the end. These tings happen. Compare O Driscoll with McCaw after NZ lost to France in 07. He just said the better team won. BOD take note.

[vernystinger]

@GuerillaGanja ur the loser mate ...and a sore one at that !

[vernystinger]

Ireland are spoilers , always have been always will be . You clearly know nothing about rugby but being irish that's understandable .

Ireland are very much an ageing predictable team . And by you saying about Wales being an English run country you've totally discredited anything you said ... Also , check your spelling , oh yes and the next comment let's write them in out own languages shall we ? I'll write mine in welsh , you write yours in galic ? Deal ? Or can you only speak ENGLISH like eve

[vernystinger]

HOW MANY TIMES HAS WALES BEEN ON THE WRONG SIDE OF A BAD DECISION ?!

The Irish fail to mention that they killed the ball EVERYTIME Wales got into their 22 as they always do . They're an ageing team that turned up to just spoil and slow the welsh down . Even when they were in front they were never in the game ! If we didn't score with that controversial try , we would have scored later on anyway once the ref got his yellow cards out which he should have got out alot earlier on the cheating Iri

[MikePhillipstry]

Cry babies, get over it Micks

[0carly]

i understand the upset but the ref makes mistakes in all games that go both teams way if you want to disalow this try in that game also disallow the irland try where driscol knocked on befre irland scored. i play rugby and we all know the ref's / touch juges make the wrond choice ( they like us havent got eyes in the back of theyer head

[paddyrathmines]

rule 19.2. for a quick throw in, the player must use the ball that went into touch. If, after it went to touch and was made dead, another ball is used, or if ANOTHER PERSON has touched the ball apart from the player throwing it in, then the quick throw in is disallowed. The same team throws in at the lineout!! even aside the arugament that the wrong ball was used, the ball was handed to the welsh player by the ball boy, again against the rule of rule 19.2

[paddyrathmines]

i have played rugby for the best part of 30yrs now, and i have had niggles with refs the same as anyone else, but surely Kaplan should have refered this to the tmo!! you dont ignore at this level players when they are all telling you the same thing, and the other thing is shame on the welsh player for basicly "cheating". rule 19.2 clearly states a quick line out can only be taken using the same ball, basic school boy rules. what example is it to the 15year olds i now coach?? shame on wales!!

[IdidApoo2]

Fact is, it was the wrong ball. At this level of rugby, this should never happen. The game is too important for officials to be blase about. The All Blacks lost to France in the 2007 world cup. The referee Wayne barnes was largely responsible for that, and is still widely unforgiven in NZ.

Two words - Video Referee.

[GlassDarkly]

@IdidApoo2 Haha Wayne Barnes !! Do please get over it , He was largely responsible for nothing. The reason that France won that match is that they played BETTER than NZ. Once NZ was behind it had no plan B and simply choked all over again.

[IdidApoo2]

What i'm implying (and the Irish should agree with me) is what is so hard about reviewing a play which has led to a try in very important international match. In both instances these infringing plays have led to tries and swayed the momentum. You are right though, the AB's didn't have a plan B. We are all over it though, but its a shame to the game of rugby when reffing imcompetance decides who wins a game. This could easily be solved by a simple video replay.

[GlassDarkly]

@IdidApoo2  Oh I agree with the sentiment completely but it would require a rule change to the remit of the 4th official. At the moment it is not a referable incident. It should be though. Time for the IRB to step in me thinks. It's not the first time it has happened either. 2007, Western Force vs Blues. Mealamu threw it in quickly to Ali Williams with a different ball and he ran on to score a try. Kaplan was the ref that day too ..

[IdidApoo2]

@GlassDarkly - good to see that Kaplan's has been given a wake up call before he refs in the world cup.

[buffaloonrampage]

yes it should not of been a try but the fact is that from a young age rugby players are taught to play to the whistle and for an international team of irelands standard to be court completly flat footed by a quick line out is just unbelievable and ireland deserve to have lost that game

[paddyrathmines]

@buffaloonrampage whilst i totaly agree with you about the fact of playing to the whistle, the irish players did carry on. but you have to accept the fact that the wrong ball was used, knowingly or otherwise. it spoilt what was a good game because of an error by the touch judge and the ref. but no sour grapes, the refs decision is final

[mattyparsons]

Some of you folks need to read the IRB laws. 19.2(b) requires "For a quick throw-in, the player may be anywhere outside the field of play between the place where the ball went into touch and the player’s goal line." It doesn't matter if it was kicked out on the full. Also, Matthew Rees had a foot in touch. The only requirement for this throw to be valid actually met (except a lineout not being formed - it hadn't needs two players in the line from each team) was that it did go 5 metres.

[MrBinskit]

The issue is was there a line out formed. If you think there was there is a problem with the position of the player receiving the ball - on the assumption that a lineout had formed he entered the line out after it was formed and Wales then had no half back.

[MrBinskit]

@MrBinskit - also if Kaplan thought a lineout had formed it would have been irrelevant whether the same ball was used....

[HabloIrlandes]

1:43 bouncy bouncy.. good girl Sharon..

[Mace240]

you obviously don't know the rule...

[TheCleddy]

The ball went out on the full, so the throw in is­ from where it was kicked. The ref made the line­ out mark, at this point Wales do not need the same­ ball.

Should the ref have­ called it back because the lineout wasn't formed? The ref asked the TJ if it was formed and as there were 4 Irish players and 2 Welsh players in the line - it had formed. Perfectly legal try!

[geansai333]

@TheCleddy

clearly there are no players on either side anywhere near the lineout. I'm not sure if you have played, but you have to be in a line one metre apart. Just being in the 5-15 yard area is not "being in the lineout'". Stop talking through your hole, please. Nobody is disputing that an error was made, and you will see an apology in due course.

[vtspower]

How wonderfully ironic that we beat the cheating Mickers via a dodgy try. As if all the "gamesmanship" hands in the ruck, persistent infringement and downright shady play over the years by the bogtrotters means nothing. Remember the South Africa v Ireland game where Smit got his players in a huddle to warn them about yellow cards, and Purplehead O'Gara tapped quickly and scored?

Sorry, no sympathy. Shit happens.

[edwardprice75]

fredqw243 - the reason it was taken inside irish half because it was kicked out on the full so you have the line out from where the ball was kicked. Im welsh it was definatly the wrong ball but its not cheating as i highly doubt matthew rees realised it was a different ball. plus every game of rugby you try get away with what you can being slightly offside, holding onto ball etc were there 3 irish men in lineout which means its formed,

[kc13k13]

That was a pure disgrace, welsh bastards

[gezunder]

@kc13k13 Ha Ha fucking Ha. Cheating cunts arses bitten back.

[fredqw243]

Not only was it the wrong ball but Matthew Rees took the throw from inside the irish half, when the ball went out clearly five metres inside the welsh half, if this happens in the world cup then rugby union and its fair play laws will be dead

[MrKeg1234]

you snozze you lose

[kilkee15]

@MrKeg1234 It's irrelevant to what the real problem was.

[k00095163]

@MrKeg1234 A quick throw here was illegal so clearly you don't know what you are talking about

[MrKeg1234]

@k00095163 it was never indispute that the through was illegal just what ball was used ireland should of covered it but didnt unlucky

[jenncash87]

I dont care if ye all think we are whining, ye would be the exact same if it was us who did that to ye, so accept that ye won by cheating .If ye put yourselves in our shoes ye wouldnt be saying what ye are. Ireland have deserved to win every game we did!!! The cameras are there for a reason and they should be used.. Im just sick of getting bad decisions made against us.. It was the same in the World Cup qualifiers!! And then have people like ye tell us to get over it...

[twmwhitfield]

Some one has to say this, but it was not easy to finish that off, there were green shirts in the area and Mike Phillips finished very well. I am Welsh, I will take it, we have been done in enough times at the hands of the referee. It was a bad call Ireland. I do have sympathy for that. Please take out your anger next weekend!

[batterseabailey]

sad day for the game. They knew what they were doing - cheating, and I am not an Irishman

[welshiegal]

Ireland had 80 minutes to beat wales you cant blame the officals for Ireland losing.

[brynlaaful]

right, i bet, that NO ONE here knew about "using the same ball" rule.

try shouldn't have been awarded but it was, soo there's not much you can do about it other than whine haha but then again, nothing was mentioned about the several line outs not straight and the 2 knock ons from Ireland. If they really deserved the win they would have made something from the last 5 minutes of play.

[gevans211]

Could somebody give Paddy his dummy back he seems to have spat it out

[raydesut]

My guess is the official wasn't paying attention and really thought it was the same ball, but Rees knew it wasn't and decided to cheat. The Irish have had little regard for the letter of the law lately. Rather than a chicken coming home to roost we got a bloody albatross.

[oddjobify]

That robbed Ireland of a deserved win. And now the Welshists are whining about some supposed "forward" passes when England got their try.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[Knigrgdrad]

@oddjobify

I'm Irish and the Scots did get robbed today, the limey try came from not 1 but 2 consecutive forward passes.

I know the linesman gets a lot of abuse in twickenham, but even the limeys now Scotland would have won without that illegal try.

[Jencash87]

I guess we should count ourselves lucky it wasn't France we were playing. I think it would have hurt a lot more if it was!! The biggest mistake made there was taking O'Gara off so soon in the match! Sexton isn't up to O'Garas standard especially under pressure!!! I mean look at the free he missed right in fron of the post!!! Disgraceful!!! That is Kidneys fault!!!! :-(

[coolmatt1125]

Yes, try shouldn't have been allowed but, the Irish have had the rub of the green so many times themselves against Wales at times, so luck tends to even itself out over time. Overall, both teams were fairly evenly matched, neither were brilliant.

[Paddykingston]

Thats the only way Wales can beat Ireland. Crap try.

[facerollpewpew]

@Paddykingston tbh the try shouldn't of been allowed but you cant say it was a bad try... there have been many decisions made that allowed Ireland to get victories that they didn't deserve... if anything, not "crap try", crap decision....

[Paddykingston]

@facerollpewpew Ah come on, how can you call that a good try? The Irish team were getting ready for a lineout. Mike catches a different ball and runs over the line against a team that was not ready. Talk about a victory that was not deserved. Name one victory that Ireland didn't deserve, like this one?

[facerollpewpew]

@Paddykingston Ireland vs Scotalnd, Ireland vs Italy, that is 2 :)

[kiddywood1]

Wonderful to see Ireland get a taste of their own medicine. So often their infringements go unoticed and other teams are left scratching their heads.

Great try Mikey.