WSOP 2008 Ep 12 - 10k Pot Limit Omaha (5/5)

[kenkb02]

lol, peter jetten, grinder grinder, peter jetten

[danielvandam]

@johndeerishere Yeah.. What the wtf right?

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[hedecky58]

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[johndeerishere]

This last hand is why you don't go all in with just the nut straight in Omaha .Someone who raises you for all your chips usually has the straight with a redraw . Of course this is a tournament where the blinds are probably pretty high. So, I don't blame Jetten for that play that much.

[matt14321]

Don't think you can blame him much, are you really gunna lay down the nut straight HU? He could have a set in which case its even money and he has to make the initial raise so the pot odds say call anyway?

[johndeerishere]

If you read the comment you would see I said I could'nt blame him much because it was a tourney and the blinds are high. Also, if Smyth had a set Jetten would be the favorite- not even money.

[johndeerishere]

Also, if you consider Smyth's preflop raise it is very likely he had big cards that fit that board- i.e. a straight.Another clue that he(Smyth) had also the nut straight is his reraise all in. But, like I said it is a tourney not a cash game where you can not wait very long for a better spot.

[Encl0suRe]

@johndeerishere

dude were talking about omaha!

so why the hell should a preflop raise mean he has big cards?

in omaha there are a LOT of hands u can raise preflop...

Why should he also have the nut straight!? he could have had a set, a flush draw, two pair.. He just took the chance do win the tournament.

[johndeerishere]

Your right, he does'nt necessarily have big to raise preflop, but it's more likely. Then when he reraises all in after the flop then it's much more likely he big cards that fit that board. You have to consider the action pre AND post flop, not just think about just your own hand to be a great Omaha(or for that matter any great poker player) player. Of course there are overly aggressive players where there's exceptions, but Smyth does'nt seem to be that kind of player.

[johndeerishere]

I would like to make one more point. If you did read Smyth for having the same nut straight with a redraw then it would be correct to fold, even heads up, because you probably are being freerolled with no wins.

[Encl0suRe]

@johndeerishere

and btw: even if smyth would have a flush and straight draw, a set, or two pair jetten would still be in big favour to win the hand.

so nothing to talk about here.

[johndeerishere]

In Omaha it's not that difficult for someone else to have the same straight with a redraw. So, if you're really playing your A game in Omaha you can pass for a better spot. Even with the blinds so high if your disciplined you can lay down this hand and wait for a better spot. And , Smyth's reraise preflop is a strong clue that Smyth has the same straight with probably a rerdraw.

[johndeerishere]

I said ,Encl0suRe if you can read, that if Jetten would be the favorite if Smyth had a set. Obviously he (Jetten) would be a favorite if Smyth were on a draw,(although there are a lot favorites in Omaha with draws over made hands).

[Encl0suRe]

thats about what i said.. lol.. u got to be kidding!

[johndeerishere]

Hey, Encl0suRe, then what the hell are you saying- that I said Smyth would be a favorite with draw. I never said anything like that. So what the wtf! Your just one of those asssholes that likes to get on the internet and bitch about anything.

[Encl0suRe]

but smyth is favourite, cant u read the numbers?

its 69% to 31%.

and what do u mean with: " so what the what the fuck!" ? couldnt puzzle that one?

btw i didnt start the bitching, u did, by provocating me ("enclosure, if u cant read")

[johndeerishere]

Encl0suRe, I never said Jetten was the favorite and never said Jetten was an underdog to a set, straight or flush draw, so yeah, WTF!!! I was explaining why it was likely Smyth had the same straight with a redraw. Your going all over the place and your are'nt making any sense.Your the one starting the provoking- saying things I never said.

[Encl0suRe]

still dont get why it is likely that smyth had the same straight.. no way you can see that without holecard cam.

[bananatube2]

whats yur mans problem with the irish

[grinchy01]

GO ON THE IRISH...

[jefffreed2003]

He will beat u at the poker table and then drink u under it! Go Irish!

[itsnophun]

A club and a bracelet.

[ryanaldinho85]

thats what it would be like if the world series cicuit events were held in europe, a great football stadium atmosphere it would be awsome. but tradition says they should be played in the states infront of 2 men n there dogs.

[ulster2020]

ur all queenys

[mr2gti]

Love the crowd - that's what it's all about!

[killapokerpro]

thats what irish is being about.... a proud nation! eire abu!!

[skarules111]

why the hell do they pronounce it "snucker" its snOOoooooker

[redewell70]

crowd is great that is how it will be when Europe is coming more and more over....dont get scared Americans;-)

[redewell70]

if snooker is big..how can you guys miss Stephe Davies on the bubble day of the main event? sitting there on an episode when man "the master"goes out!!!! sorry for posting not on the event..but the Irish are GREAT!! regards from Germany

[2kaday]

im irish + soon i will rule the world.

[redewell70]

wise words from Phil there!! actually he came to day 6 of the main event

[xTyphoon51x]

You'll never beat the Irish! HAHA i love it, all final tables should b like this

[oliver4105]

Happens quite often in PLO, nuts vs. nuts + redraw which hits.

[china1fan]

main event starts tonight! whee

[naiki4sparta]

thanks for this videos, you're 9 months ahead to the german tv :)

[dietangel]

marty smyth... the same guy that does full tilt poker report???

[skarules111]

no lol, hes canadian not irish

[paras2npat]

What you On about boy!

he is irish!

[pokerkid264]

Option number two mr Random please. Thanks in advance

[daled7310]

hey randompoker first off thanks a ton for all ur videos bro..

I think you should do the latter its easier to find IMO

[Mandrik]

Thanks for posting these, bro! It's nice being able to watch these on YouTube while at work. :)

[jimmy411vm]

Coooler.

[monkeyonfire0069]

the final hand of that one was awesome...go the irish!!

[sharkmanforever]

2nd choice is better...Thanks for your hard work.

[masterk86]

Oh man thank you for this and all following vids

[raccoonjohnny]

Thanks Random for your excellent work posting the WSOP.

WSOP 2008 Main event....numbered from Ep1 would be good! Thanks so much!

[RandomPoker]

Next week: Main event starts!

There will be 9 weeks of Main Event action not including the final table. That's a lot of episodes.

Do you guys want the episodes to keep being numbered 13,14,15 etc?

or would you like to start over with "WSOP 2008 Main Event Ep1..." etc?

[Supersim77]

2nd option: WSOP 2008 Main Event Ep1...

Thanks!

[ydlanzitro]

2nd choice m8

[dutchieboy80]

If I were you, I'd choose 'WSOP 2008 Main Event Ep1' and so on. By doing that, it's very easy to find for the people who are looking for it :)

By the way, thanks for all the fast video's, I always look at your channel when new poker episodes are out :D

[RandomPoker]

2nd choice it is. Thanks for the feedback

[dnwxxxxxx]

any way you want,mate. we get espn in New Zealand, but wsop is on about mid nite and you are a month ahead. Great work!

[elronycoleman]

Yeah, I`m with the 2nd option too...

[narerl]

Agreed.

[jlf1000]

Much better final table compared to the horse shìt performance we saw with scotty last time

[ScreenJunkie]

No kiddin.