After carefully listening to what you say there are a number of things that I would like to comment on. Firstly, I think you attempt to present a balanced argument. But, one criticism is your use of internet source-material. Although the internet is a great source of information, I'm sure you are aware that material can be written by anyone, therefore I like many others believe that it is not as reliable as primary source material. But I like your style of taking an issue to pieces for analysis.
If you look at the internet material I link to (and short of reading endless books etc. on video, there's no other practical way of providing sources for a YT vid!), you'll find that most of it's not just "written by anyone", but is thoroughly referenced and can thus be refuted if necessary and possible.
@Changeling9au I think you do a great job with what you have got, this issue is not black and white, and there are many lies and untruths that still circulate as 'truth'. I value your comments and I hope it may lead to other people finding out for themselves what happened in those horrific 5 years of war, and ultimately peace int he balkans and Bosnia. May I ask do you have any balkan relatives?
if y think 1 side or the other is not respnsible the n back it up for fucks sake instead of going on and on about reseaecrh and having no evidence but pictures,pictures which posibly both side did so whos worse?
Ustashe were not nazis or fascist, they were brave Croatian soldiers who fought for freedom of their country. They hated fascists and nazis who took away part of our land during WW2, but 1943, those territories were again under Croatia and the same year NDH leader wanted to seperate from nazi Germany but he didn't manage to do that. So, I'm telling you that ustashe weren't nazis or fascist, they didn't care for them, they only wanted freedom for our country under no circumstances.
wtf? what are you talking about???? all of you haven't even been in touch with ustasha. And I'm lucky because my grandfathers were. As a little kid I was listening to their stories, and thrust me you will never met ppl like them. So good, so honest with faith in God... They didn't care for Hitler, nobody didn't. They were defending their homeland. So stop spreading lies, because you know nothing.
WTF. Ustashes were like in LOVE with hitler they didn't just respect him they adored him and in fact believed that the guy was a GOD. good honest ... hahahh hahhahh hahhahhah hahhahh ahhahha hahhahahah hahhahahah hahhahahah hahhahah hahahhah hahahhah hahahh hahhah hahahha hhahahh hahahha hahhahah hahhahah hahhahah hahhaha hahhahaha hhahahah hahhahah hahahhaha hahhahha hahhahha hahhahah hahahhah hahhahahah hahhahaha hahahhahah hahahahh ah ah .. my stomach hurts.
@bezvezeceda Pointless comment, especially as the Serbian Cetniks collaborated with the Ustashe and Nazis during the war for a small time. No one in the balkans was completely innocent.
"...especially as the Serbian Cetniks collaborated with the Ustashe and Nazis during the war for a small time."
That's actually not true - it was propaganda produced by Tito's regime.
I touch on this briefly in my video "SilverRedIndigo Slanders the Serbs and Gets Down 'N' Funky with NATO's Cadre of Balkan PR Nazis" - see the description for documentation.
There's a photo showing Mihailovich with "Ustashas" is going around, but they were actually Muslim Cetniks!
@Changeling9au You are right, I have been trying to access the Anti-Semitic article on there for a long time to include better references on what and who Semitic peoples are, unfortunately to no avail.
@bezvezeceda They were fascist, in many ways they excelled even the most brutal of German Nazi war crimes. But on the other side of the coin, they did represent the Croatian people who were tired of being invaded by empire after empire and those who longed for a country of their own so they could choose their own destiny. Just for the record I am not a Nazi, Ustashe or Nationalist sympathiser, I am just presenting a balanced argument. I do not condone their crimes against Serbs and Jews.
"...they want a nation of their own, with their own parliament, language and culture"
*All* tyrannical movements function, in part, by appealing to "legitimate grievances/issues".
Croatians celebrating the Ustashe on that basis is a bit like Germans marching on Hitler's birthday wearing Nazi uniforms saying "We're just celebrating what he did for the economy, we don't support his extermination policies! Honest!!"
@Changeling9au I appreciate what your saying, I do not condone the actions of the Ustashe. Also I am aware that they have used what I am saying as an excuse for their atrocities. But like many peoples within the Balkans, the Croatians suffered greatly because of being continuously invaded and used my Empires. Few Croatian people now who live in the sovereign Republic of Croatia can argue that it is not a good thing having your own country. Only a few of the older generation are still nostalgic..
You stupid idot. It can't be more easier to understand than it is. Through history Croats were fighting for their land, we never fought on serb territory, we never attacked them, because we don't want their country, but they want our, because it is very nice and rich country. We were only defending what is ours and if you see sth bad in that you are a dickhead. If you ask me they should all be killed. They came on our territory yelling that this is their land. Stupid jews and serbs barbarians
Serbs used to make up 1/3 of people in Croatia before WW2. After killing 700,000 of us we made up 12% at the beginning of the war in 1991. And after the 1995 genocide we are down to under 2%.
You Croats are Nazi to the bone. Your ex-president Tudjman said it himself:
"Serbs in Croatia must be dealt with, and they must be dealt with by war."
Now go sell your bullshit to someone who doesn't know better. Krajina was Serbian. You stole it from us.
@dsertlu The Socialist federal republic of Yugoslavia did not declare war, but it sought to recapture control of the republics that proclaimed independance. Firstly it was Slovenia, then when they realised they couldn't regain control their focus went to Croatia, then Bosnia. But throughout the whole time it was the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in conflict with these countries, not Serbia proper. However Serbia was the largest country within the Socialist Federal Republic at the time
@dmacid If we are going back that far maybe you should look at the Serbian role in the Ottoman Empire where they bargained with the Ottomans using the Croatian and Bosnian people as 'chips' and 'pawns'. Instead of Serbian children being taken for military traing many Croatian male children were taken from their parents while they were very young and made to train in the Ottoman military. Most never saw their home or families again.
lets see bosnia everyone was guilty serbs and muslims almost equally... the mujaheedins were the most evil no wonder the world is anti-islamic... In croatia the croats are ustashas, fascists not nazis who commited atrocities against serbs and they will burn for them any croat that died died becuase they supported the ustashas... SCREW USTASHAS and MUSLIMS
he he the new serv slogaN IS :tell to the world same servs did it not wi!!!!!same servs comited genocide in srebrenica not wi(like thei ar not serbs to lol)same servs turned vukovar to a GHOST CITY not wi (like wi ar gos servs not like the ather 49%of them whu voted for nazi sheshelj.
so this is the new servian wey to du propoganda dennie evrything ,say no, there wos not crimes in balkans .120,000 hauses where burnt out in kosovo 3000 people still missing (but no !!there wos not serb genocide)fuck you .THERE WOS SERV GENOCIDE ,AND THE PEOPLE WHU MADE IT still rule the serbia todey.
Croats regret the crimes committed against Serbs in WWII. Croats celebrate the Ustasa, due to the fact that it was the movement that freed Croats from its 1000 years of foreign rule and slavery. Serb expansionism, which sought only the total annihilation of Croat culture, gave rise to the Ustasa. If our patriotism is viewed as fascism, that is your burden, not ours. We can live with that. Croats DO NOT celebrate atrocities.
Exactly! What don't you understand. The beginnings of the Ustasa did not start with the intent of killing Serbs. It's origins date back a lot further, as a resistance movement to oppression and drive for independence. The abyss of killing was as a result of spiralling violence and brutality and elements of mad men.
Croats do regret the atrocities. But not their freedom. Yes! We celebrate them.
Were all German officers & troops cold blooded killers?
Exactly! What don't you understand. The beginnings of the Ustasa did not start with the intent of killing Serbs. It's origins date back a lot further, as a resistance movement to oppression and drive for independence. The abyss of killing was as a result of spiralling violence and brutality and elements of mad men.
Croats do regret the atrocities. But not their freedom. Yes! We celebrate them.
Were all German officers & troops cold blooded killers?
@Excelsior77 This comment is out of context, what he means is that Croatians celebrate the more positive outcome of the nationalism, like the Croatian Spring, the independance of Croatia, making Croatian an official parliamentary language etc. Not war crimes and not the greater Croatia etc etc.
So,CroOzzie, you say Croats "regret the crimes" of the Ustasha - over a Million Serbs,Jews,Roma & anti-fascist Croats murdered from 41 to 45 in the most barbaric manner - by "celebrating" the Ustasha?!Oh I see.Thanks for enlightening all of us here.
At least you are honest enough - for once at least - to admit that you are an out and out Ustasha Nazi supporter. Good to see your honesty on at least this one issue, CrOzzie.
To suggest modern day Croatia has a genocidal policy toward Serbs is absurd.
Serb propaganda has once again brought all the aspiring brainwashed activists out of the woodwork.
If people want to champion the cause of genocide victims, there are "actual" acts of genocide being committed now, but, alas, there is a deadly silence on those postings.
CroOzzie:"To suggest modern day Croatia has a genocidal policy toward Serbs is absurd." Oh I see. So you say that Croats TODAY "celebrate the Ustasha" - the murderous NAZI regime from WW2 responsible for slaughtering over a million people in 4 years - but then on the other hand you say that modern Croatia does not have a genocidal policy toward Serbs? Which perhaps explains why over 500,000 Serbs were ethnically cleansed from '91 -'95 by Franjo Tudjman's HDZ government & why "U" symbols are OK?
Ridiculous figures of more than 1,000,000 killed. There is no evidence of that. How does a nation of 4,000,000 in WW2, most of which are rural peasants, have the infrastructure or resources to rival the Nazi death camps throughout Europe. The Ustase army numbered less than 200,000 men most of which most were combat regiments. It would have required more than half of it to run the many dozens of camps needed for that no.
BTW the total killed in all the Jugo nations for all WW2 is 1,027,000.
@Excelsior77 The 'modern Croatia' not the Croatia 20 years ago. If you are referring to Krajina, I have read that a lot of Serb people were 'evacuated' by serbian military not kicked out of Krajina by Croatians. In order to present a balanced argument here. We understand you (Excelsior77) are visibly angry and possibly biased against Croatians. But what CroOzzie said is true, the Ustashe existed as a freedome movement prior to being taken over by facsists, as did the Serbian Cetniks for example.
If the HSP has only "2%" following as you claim, and Thompson's songs glorifying Jasenovac murderers like Maks Luburic are not supported by the majority of Croats, then why did not Tudjman, Mesic or Sanadar EVER condemn these Croat Ustasha Nazis as being unrepresentative of Croat culture & society? Why is it that the "Za Dom Spremni" slogan & "NDH" & "U" symbols do NOT bother them? How come they do not bother you either?
@USA4Eva1776 Again you are picking and choosing your sources and references without looking at others that contradict them. Yes people listen to Thompson, but they are in the minority. I know many Croatian people and they are ashamed and embarrassed, much like I am embarrassed about racist white bands here in the UK. You might be as well with those in the US, and those from Serbia (yes they do exist). Present a balanced argument.
@Changeling9au Ustashe and Nazi symbolism is illegal in Croatia as it is in Germany. The attendees of this concert possibly came from everywhere in Croatia and also possibly the extended European diaspora, not just Zagreb. Croatia is not the only European country where Nazi/fascist symbols and slogans have been openly expressed by a crowd. No one can clarify whether the whole crowd were involved or whether it was small groups. In perspective 60,000 people is 1.3% of the current population (4.5m)
@Changeling9au Also, I once saw one youth with a Croatian puppet state grb (Croatian shield) without the Ustashe U on the shoulder of his black jacket in Zagreb, but other than that I have never seen anything in the last 5 years. However there appears to be a rise in the amount of Nazi graffiti in Zagreb with the U and crvena akcija (red action) being quite common in most places.
"Srbe Na Vrbe" is a very common saying in Croatia today, just as it was in Ustasha Nazi Croatia during World War 2.Translated into English it means:
"Serbs should be HUNG from willow trees".
TheShield04,you are a self-confessed Ustasha Nazi, s acknowledged here by your very own comments trying to defend the straight armed Ustasha salute & slogan "Za Dom Spremni" as:
"I cannot tell you that the ancient Roman legion solute has been popular in croatian culture before say the late 1800's"
CrOzzie: "Really! This appears to be a popular saying amongst Serbs, which was used during the war in Croatia in the 90's"
Problem is, this is NOT a "popular saying amongst Serbs". We do NOT see 60,000 to 100,000 Serbs at concerts chanting this abhorrent slogan.
What we DO see is 60 to 100 thousand Croats giving the "Sieg Heil" Nazi salute (accompanied by the Ustasha Nazi chant: "Za Dom Spremni!")at Marko Perkovic (aka "Thompson")concerts all over Croatia, Canada, the US, Australia, etc.
Za Dom Spremni (For home - ready!,) is a resistance cry, not a Nazi slogan.
Is it 100,000 fans at a rock concert chanting "Srbe na Vrbe" or a minority of youth pumped up on adrenaline, drink and whatever else venting their frustration, to the provocation from Serbs (such as that seen here) e.g. KLACEMO HRVATI, Chetnik songs, claims of territorial rights, etc. Put it into perspective, please.
@USA4Eva1776 Absolute rubbish, I have been to Croatia extensively in the last 5 years, and I can say I have never heard anyone say 'Srbe na vrbe', 'za dom spremni' or other racist/nationalist slogans. In the street or otherwise.
TheShield04 writes:"...and know, i cannot tell you that the ancient Roman legion solute has been popular in croatian culture before say the late 1800's....but even then probably not as popular until WWII...but i don't see your point...most croats don't do that, and i'm not offended if they do anyways...i don't f*cking care, because it is harmless..."
"Most Croats don't do that",huh? Nazi salutes are "harmless" in your view are they?
And sayings like "Srbe na Vrbe" are harmless too huh?
TheShield04: I suppose you are also going to try and tell me that the straight arm Fascist-Nazi Ustasha salute & the "Za Dom Spremni" chant at Marko Perkovic Thompson concerts attended by 60,000 to 100,000 Croats at a time - and endorsed by the Croat government of Mesic & Sanadar - is also harmless Croat culture which "has been around for centuries" right?
ok, whatever....why does that incident get RAVING media attention and critiicism.....but there is NO criticism associated with the much more popular Cetnik pride and symbols. or the fact that the most popular political party was the Serbian Radical Party and now is 2nd most popular (much more popular than croatia's HSP...2%)...and the S. R. P. seaks croatian lands, as well as bosnia and hercegovina.....serbian conquest and fascist goals go completely un-checked, and have been for 100 years
and know, i cannot tell you that the ancient Roman legion solute has been popular in croatian culture before say the late 1800's....but even then probably not as popular until WWII...but i don't see your point...most croats don't do that, and i'm not offended if they do anyways...i don't f*cking care, because it is harmless compared do the politics of serbia. the croat coat of arms has been a unifying symbol for all croats since at least the 15th century.
Listen "TheShield04", you Croat Nazi Ustashe moron. I am not a Serb but an AUSTRALIAN OF SCOTTISH & IRISH DESCENT WHO DETESTS NAZI APOLOGISTS LIKE YOURSELF.Got that?
The "U" symbol on the black T-shirts and uniforms worn by Tudjman's HDZ approved & endorsed ZNG & HOS/HSP troops during the 1990's -and even to this day - stands for "USTASHA" - the genocidal Croatian Nazi regime led by Ante Pavelic from 1941 to 1945.
@Excelsior77 I have seen many videos and pictures of the HOS and HSP in combat during the wars between 1991 and 1995 and I have never seen Croatian paramilitaries in black uniforms in combat. However I have seen Serbian paramilitaries in black uniforms, are you sure you aren't mixing them up? Where is your balanced argument?
Here is a quote from one of the preceding ISSA Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy articles from 1992:
"Today, the newly-independent State of Croatia has adopted the same symbols as the Ustaše puppet nazi state. In many instances its military and para-military units have adopted the same uniforms of the 1941-45 Ustaše Black Legions. And the killing has begun again. The dispossession has begun again."
those "symbols" (i guess you are reffering to the Croatian Coat of Arms) has been around for centuries. this was also used for the croatian republic of yugoslavia, and soccer teams....wasn't fascist when croatia was in your hands i guess huh?? you are retarded.
The "NDH" symbol on the Tudjman HDZ approved & endorsed ZNG & HOS/HSP black uniforms and T-shirts worn by many Croats today stands for "INDEPENDENT STATE OF CROATIA" - the murderous Ustasha Nazi regime led by Ante Pavelic - responsible for the genocide of over a million Serbs, Jews, Roma & anti-fascists of various nationalities from 1941 to 1945.
@Excelsior77 You could equally mention the 'Greater Serbia' movement that was and still is idolised by Serbian nationalists. The only difference is one existed and one didn't (or hasn't yet). Again lack of a balanced argument
@gghostd you are retarded Greater Serbia was dropped for Yugoslavia serbs sacrificed 4 million lives for yugoslavia for their brothers Croats and Muslims when you think about it Greater Serbia would have been better then Yugoslavia for the serbs
CroOzzie, FYI I am a fourth generation Australian of mixed Scottish and Irish heritage and I can spot an Ustashe Nazi apologist for Tudjman like yourself a mile away.
"Sophistry? Not throwing anything back at serbs. You miss the point! Must be genetic."(Translation: I'm a Croat Ustasha Nazi Racist Moron whom assumes that anybody who disagrees with me must be either a Serb or in some way genetically flawed and I hope people dont Google "Tudjman & the Ustashe Nazi genocide of Krajina Serbs")
"serbian uprising slowed hitler" operation Barbarossa being slowed down was for a number of factors...Musselini having trouble in Greece, Yugoslavia (Croatian Dalmatia specifically, Dalmatians started the Partisan uprising against Italians, not serbs...anyways), and albania is more speculator....there were a number of reasons...but my history teacher told our class Barbarossa was slowed down because of Greece. If you watch BBC they may say Yugo, cause Brits are pro Yugo/serb (but not Blair)
...i don't mean to call you "full of shit", got kind of pissed....but i don't think you have actually researched everything on WWII, and the 90's wars....seams that you really on CNN for the "croatian version" (which isn't even pro-croat), and documentaries and outdated encyclopedia britanica articles for the Balkan "WWII history". try to find the actual STORY...but remember one thing, if your "Croatian Friends" are Croats, then they believe Croatia has a right to be free. Greece slowed hitler
here is my position: when i look at conflicts i don't focus on the "atrocities" (and don't assume everything serbs say is true about the Ustase either).....but I do care about freedom.....Croatia has a right to exist, does it not? and that's the point, any serb propaganda is focused on Serbian political elements expanding their territory.
Google "Tudjman & the Croatian Ustashe Nazi Genocide of Krajina Serbs Part 2" to see what the Tudjman HDZ Croat Nazis did when they ethnically cleansed 500,000 Serbs from 1991 to 1995.
You got me! The Serbs are a holy and righteous people and there is a conspiracy to attribute culpability for all those civilians that massacred, then buried themselves in mass graves.
On the other hand, all Croats aspire to realising their dream for the extermination of all Serbs.
It's hard to make sense of recent news out of Croatia questioning whether yet another CroNazi hero, one of Tudjman's Generals, actually deserves such exulted status, or even his pension, now that he stands accused of killing his Croat neigbhours, including a 16 year old boy, in the very same manner he used to kill his Serb neighbours, for which he won his stripes. CroNazis, meanwhile, pride themselves that such a legal discrepancy exists in Croatia, they wouldn't have it any other way.
Multi-ethnicity is understood in a strange way by CroNazis. For them nothing is more important than seeing a purified Croatia under the principle of "Ein volk, stadt, Führer bla-bla-bla Danke Deutschland". They deny this, however, pointing out Nazis from all over Europe joined Tudjman's army, which also recruited Albanians and Muslim mercenaries. Multiculturalism done right. Many CroNazis live in USA, Oz, filthy mongrel places yes, but the Catholic Churches there can raise a lot of cash.
rly nice vid,i agree with u on the ww2 subject,about delay of operation "barbarosa"
tho i wanted to tell u all of the participiants of the balkan wars were and are the same people,but manipulated coz of religion,we are all brothers,aspecialy montenegrians(they are called that coz of the region,but they call them selves serbs)and serbs
CroNazis see themselves as historical victims who were forced to buy Hungarian weapons, recruit Nazis from all over Europe (as well as Albanians and mercenaries), and betray the consitution of Yugoslavia in order to protect the hard-earned demographic gains from WWII in which they wiped out a Serb population that exceeded 41%. Greatest sympathisers for this image of Croats as some sort of victims include Bill and Hillary Clinton, both well known for their self serving interpretations of history.
I don't see any valid arguments offered up by CroNazis on this board. Just too telling how they imitate Albanians in assuming 4-5 consecutive posts of racist gibberish must somehow serve as an adequate substitute for one valid argument. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
I don't know how spanonski expects to win any sympathy for his pathological antiSerb hatred by posting his "No!No!Serbs are the fascists" videos, especially when he also posts videos "exposing" Serbs as "Borat" stereotypes.
CroOzzie writes:"He constantly contradicts himself. Here he states that he does not deny that Serbs committed war crimes, on other videos "that they never did"
LIAR. Stop putting your own words into his mouth.A typical "straw man" specious argument you are using here in order to cover for Tudjman's neo-Ustashi genocide & ethnic cleansing of 500,000 Serbs in the Krajina area from 1991-1995.
The so called "Hague" where you claim all "the evidence is at" is a Kangaroo Court controlled and funded by NATO - as even NATO officials, Richard Holbrooke and Meddlin Halfbright themselves have PUBLICLY admitted repeatedly.And your ridiculous claim that Changeling9au is "more than likely a Serb anyway" and your reliance on the Clinton/Albright-created Hague sham shows just how vacuous and hollow your so-called "evidence" of "Serb war crimes" in "Srebrenica,Brcko & Omarska" really is.
Does that also include evidence against Croats accused of war crimes, or just the evidence presented for accused Serbs?
There was the holocaust, Jasenovac, and the killing fields of the Balkans in WW2, but the lasting memory for most of the world will be the crimes against humanity committed by Serbs in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo.
You are all now labelled in the same manner as Croats are labelled Ustase.
I wouldn't take anything coming out of the Hague at face value - including anything which appears directed at Croatians and Muslims.
The evidence against the NATO-backed forces in the Balkans exists in abundance. We don't *need* anything coming out of the Hague - including its few limited hangout indictments of a few Croatians and Muslims.
Cute attempt at sophistry, though. I'll give you that much.
"...but the lasting memory for most of the world will be the crimes against humanity committed by Serbs in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo."(Translation: I hope people don't do any of their own research and find out that when Tudjman & the HDZ party came to power in May,1990, the CROATIAN NAZI USTASHI STATE WAS RESURRECTED.Tudjman invited hundreds of old surviving WW2 Ustashi war criminals along with their sons & grandsons - who all escaped justice due to the Vatican's smuggling network:"RATLINES")
"Tudjman & the HDZ party came to power in May,1990, the CROATIAN NAZI USTASHI STATE WAS RESURRECTED.Tudjman invited hundreds of old surviving WW2 Ustashi war criminals" We were told a similar story - except is was cetnik murderers and their sons and grandsons - funny that! no wonder such hysteria makes ppl commit horrific crimes - Budalo jedan!
"We were told a similar story - except is was cetnik murderers and their sons and grandsons - funny that! no wonder such hysteria makes ppl commit horrific crimes.."(Translation: I cannot deny the irrefutable fact that Tudjman invited hundreds of WW2 Ustashi Nazi war criminals back to Croatia with their sons and grandsons and gave them government posts - without sounding like a total LIAR,so I will just use sophistry & casuistry & throw the accusation back on the Serbs & call it mere "hysteria")
Sophistry? Not throwing anything back at serbs. You miss the point! Must be genetic.
Point being, such HYSTERICAL claims led to CRIMES being committed - Yes! Germans with the Jews, Ustasa and Serbs(NO ONE DENIES THIS - GUILTY), & Serb Cetniks in the 90's.
In the 90's neighbours turned on each other including those that had Kumovi from both Catholic and Orthodox neighbours.
"CROATIAN NAZI USTASHI STATE WAS RESURRECTED"
(Translation: You are a moron, moreover a dangerous moron)
Yea maybe during WW@ but less then 20 yrs ago you all were killing inocent Croatian kids and Bosnian kids.. YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT U Cetniks would have learned.. from the past.. STUPID!
yea, you killed over 5000 kids in jasenovac.. and we better dont talk about what happened in kragujevac.. but the most what us is hurting.. thats that croatian and the bosnian betrayed us, please, ask your parents.. what your ensisters we're they will maybe lie to you maybe they wont.. but why do you think that we all can understand each other? vuk karadzic is the creator of serbian language.. what the creator of bosnian or croatian lanuage? plz tell me i dont know it. :S
Proto-Slavic is the proto-language from which Old Church Slavonic and all the other Slavic languages later emerged. It was spoken before the seventh century.
The original homeland of the speakers of Proto-Slavic also remains controversial. The most ancient recognisably Slavic hydronyms (river names) are to be found in northern and western Ukraine and southern Belarus.
What makes you an authority, that you should need to be presented with evidence to verify whether these crimes occured or not.
The holocaust occured, but I suppose Serbs having been the first to exterminate Jews in Europe, hence being the first Jew free nation in Europe is denied by you.
Get therapy and don't bother replying.
Even crazed, murderous, throat cutting Serb chetniks, are more rational than you.
Thankyou CroOzzie, you've publically revealed what I already knew - that you're a fraud who is not only incapable of providing even a *scrap* of evidence to support your absurd assertions, you don't even think you have to.
"..but I suppose Serbs having been the first to exterminate Jews in Europe, hence being the first Jew free nation in Europe is denied by you."
That's a *CLASSIC* matey! Even the most mallet-happy, Jasenovac-jolly, head-sawing Ustashe is more rational than you.
The HagueTribunal's indictment, Serb militias removal of some 300 men to Ovcara farm, four kilometres outside Vukovar then executed and then buried in a mass grave.
I am from Serbia, and I must say to everyone who have interest in Balkan conflicts, that we Serbs live in very bad neighborhood(Albanian,Muslims,Croatians,Turks), and we have fight whit them thru history many times because they wanted to destroy us(we defended us). That is the reason of all conflicts on the Balkans, because we did not wanted to joyn them.
Im from Croatia. LOL you think that Croatians wanted Serbs 2join them as one country?WRONG! Croatians werent one who started the war and neither were the Bosnians it was the SERBS!Croatia wanted to become INDEPENDENT frm Yugoslavia(which was being run by majority of SERBS)& Serbia didnt want that so they tryed to stop us that is why there was war in Balkans, Who came to Vukovar & killed inocent people.. SERBS!!Croatians didnt come to Serbia & kill ur people
lol,yeah,u just wanted quietly,to break away and make etnicly "clean" like 50% of the territorys that u never evin fought for in wars,yeah the bad serbs didn't want to give 50% of the countrys to some pour nazis that just wanted to kick out/kill the sers that live there(and lived)and you croats bosnians etc as much as u want to denie it,are serbs,descendints of those who changed they'r faith to live better,and we offered slovenia to leave,but america wanted it all at once so there would be a war
SO ur WRONG Croatia was defending its people and its land to be free.. same with Bosnia and Slovenia at the end even Crna Gora didnt want to be part of Serbia anymore! YOu have been fed all Lies.. but that is no surprise Serbians will never see the truth.. bc they DONT WANT TO SEE IT! Srebrenica happend, so did Vukovar! ASk people who LIVES IT!!! NO someone liek you who watched TV and had reports tell you what they wanted u to know..so stupid!!
and ofc u didn't come 2 "our"(most of "croatia" is our)land and kill serbs,u had enough serbs in ur own neighborhood to kill,lot more of us died then u,more mass graves of serbs(or later proven to be serb)then "bosnians" or "croats"
Tho i still see you and ur "people"(people and nation)as brothers,tho easyly manipulated
HAHAHAH what u said is such GARBAGE that i wont even waste my bnreath to comment on it.. bc u obv DONT KNOW SHIT! According to you.. all Croatians, Slovenian's, Bosnians, and even Albains from Kosovo were ALL WRONG and out to get the serbs and hte serbs were sitting htere all innocent LOLOL PLEASE !save ur lies for someone who is stupid enough to listen to you! I LIVED IT I had serbs in my town killing people I know what i saw with my EYES!!
AND NEWS FLASH not all Croatians are Ustase! U dont know SHIT! Thats why its not worth responding to ur Ignorant comments! HAHAHAHA yeaa mass graves of serbs LOL where are all the bodies and graves huh? YOUR GOVERNMENT and MEDIA lied to you.. the serbian propoganda! At least there are Graves to Prove the dead in Vukovar & Srebrenica! Ur proof is all in ur HEAD! DOnt bother commenting back to me little girl Im not wasting anymore time on you!
rofl,when did i say all croats are ustashes?by that i'd be only hitting my self in the face,one of my best friends is croat(and all of you from the former yugoslavia are serbs,u changed ur religion to live alittle better)ur close minded,u don't think when u read this,u just have a picture in ur head that what ever is written here is some stereotipe that u guyz have in ur head,and don't want to listen to anything that goes agains ur "logic",so u dismiss me with that comment,wasting time lil'girl.
Croatia is the only place in Europe in the 21st century where you will find 60,000+ persons recreating the Nuremberg rallies. Your video helps explain what other hobbies CroNazis have, after bleating "Sieg Heil" and "Kill Serbs" for 2-3 hours to the beat of hate rock, the most popular form of musical expression among CroNazis. Apparently CroNazi hobbies include uploading videos warning of a global conspiracy to portray Croatia as a haven for Hitler-loving savages in the 21st century.
CroNazis from a pathological complex very common twhich does not stop at hating Serbs. No, it goes well beyond that. For CroNazis, Franjo Tudjman's writings are not genocide denial, but exposing that degenerate scribble as such is. Tudjman's CroNazis massacring the Holocaust survivors of WWII at Gospic, Medak, Slavonia and dozens of other places inside Croatia and Herzegovina are not genocide, but the RSK's trying to stop it is. Thanks for exposing unrepentent CroNazis.
Another amazing speech by you m8! And another lesson of truth to all the brainwashed people. Yes, in any war there are always those who commit atrocities on both sides! But, through your videos, you are showing the other side whose mouth was shut all those years due to media bias!
And you couldn't have been more accurate about HRW, about Soros, CFR, Bilderbergers controling it! Soros is right now ruining my country through the NGOs, media and politiacl parties he finances!
Serbs like Peggytoo think they are still going to get there Greater Serbia however it is only whishfull thinking. Complete nieve if she or he thinks its possiable.
Marbus. When you have nothing intelligent to say then you start to put words in my mouth. I never said I am dreaming of greater Serbia. All I said was that Serbian territories should be returned to the Serbs and no territories should be stolen. Do you actually understand a simple discussion or are you just playing dumb?
srbchicago. I am handling this guy ok for now. Charles has had a go at him and got called a Nazi for it. You see this spanonski is a joke so come in if you like but otherwise enjoy the show. I am.
You Serbian YV is telling you exactly how it is.The only normal and independant media in your country.Watch it and mourn you former primeminister Djindjic who was a great man.Your maffia and politicians killed him.
Spanonski, any man that is endorsed by either Croatians or Albanians is not the right man to lead the Serbian people. Why don't you pay attention who is leading your beloved people instead of giving Serbs advice on who to accept in their government and who to reject. Anyone who Croatia considers a great man is the wrong man for Serbia. Simple.
spanonski, Holland would fall into place very quickly if Serbia gave up on Kosovo. Nothing to do with Mladic. These are all dirty trick they employ to get what they want. They got what they want from you but you are still hoping and waiting. You are owned by them. How does it feel to be a slave? Serbs are free and will always be free. That's something you can't stomach. The deal is a bribe for Kosovo. BTW, stop saying Serbs are Nazis, that's you guys.
spanonski don't talk shit. Croatia is not well off at all. I have spoken to many Croatians here who know how their relatives live. We do have Croatian shows here on ethnic channels and they show how inflation has put the brakes on Croatia and what your money can buy compared to what your money could buy. Your best real estate is owned by the Germans. Like this guy in the video said. You can bullshit people who don't know.
Well, an admission that your country is owned by other countries. Is that why you are now struggling to fight Slovenia for a piece of land because you have given the rest away? Yes, many Croatians live in Serbia and own property, so what of it? This proves how liberal and not racist Serbia is. These Croatians live in peace and are not complaining. Doesn't this tell you something? You are wrong. That's what is says. Serbia is not a Nazi state. They welcome others.
I hate your propaganda too. I also hate innocent people dying. You on the other hand seem to approve very much of Serbs dying. That's why I condemn Croatians and your pals the Muslims for deaths of innocent people. You don't know how to pick good friends so you pick Islamic extremists. Don't blame me for condemning you for it. BTW for the thousandth's time, Serbs are not Nazis. That discrace goes to you and history proves it.
No Marbus. Serbs don't want to rule the Balkans. They only want the territories that are theirs. No more, no less. Stop throwing accusations around when you can't prove anything. That only makes you look stupid. Try proving you point with facts. Oh that's right. You don't know anything. You are only repeating propaganda you got from tv.
Marbus. Looking and sounding stupid is your specialty. Serbs never invaded anybody's land. They have always bravely defended theirs. Serbian history is something the Serbs can be proud of unlike Croatians, Muslims and Albanians. You three only have each other as nobody else respects you. Your history is full of shame.
hahahahah the funny thing is that Spanonski is not a Ustasa supporter at all! This guy is an idiot!
Marbus0 3 months ago
are you a serb immigrant :D
KarelYalek 8 months ago
Good for you for being such a good researcher and for sticking to the truth my friend. The illuminati must die I agree.
Zenbugi 1 year ago
After carefully listening to what you say there are a number of things that I would like to comment on. Firstly, I think you attempt to present a balanced argument. But, one criticism is your use of internet source-material. Although the internet is a great source of information, I'm sure you are aware that material can be written by anyone, therefore I like many others believe that it is not as reliable as primary source material. But I like your style of taking an issue to pieces for analysis.
gghostd 1 year ago
@gghostd
Thanks for the feedback.
If you look at the internet material I link to (and short of reading endless books etc. on video, there's no other practical way of providing sources for a YT vid!), you'll find that most of it's not just "written by anyone", but is thoroughly referenced and can thus be refuted if necessary and possible.
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Changeling9au I think you do a great job with what you have got, this issue is not black and white, and there are many lies and untruths that still circulate as 'truth'. I value your comments and I hope it may lead to other people finding out for themselves what happened in those horrific 5 years of war, and ultimately peace int he balkans and Bosnia. May I ask do you have any balkan relatives?
Regards G
gghostd 1 year ago
if y think 1 side or the other is not respnsible the n back it up for fucks sake instead of going on and on about reseaecrh and having no evidence but pictures,pictures which posibly both side did so whos worse?
CredibilityorElse 2 years ago
Truth!
watch?v=kT5k62DoldY
CroOzzie 3 years ago
Spanonski is a faget
YugoBoss59 3 years ago 29
Ustashe were not nazis or fascist, they were brave Croatian soldiers who fought for freedom of their country. They hated fascists and nazis who took away part of our land during WW2, but 1943, those territories were again under Croatia and the same year NDH leader wanted to seperate from nazi Germany but he didn't manage to do that. So, I'm telling you that ustashe weren't nazis or fascist, they didn't care for them, they only wanted freedom for our country under no circumstances.
siczg 3 years ago
Ustashe were fashcist to the bone. They believed that Hitler was God.
bezvezeceda 3 years ago 24
wtf? what are you talking about???? all of you haven't even been in touch with ustasha. And I'm lucky because my grandfathers were. As a little kid I was listening to their stories, and thrust me you will never met ppl like them. So good, so honest with faith in God... They didn't care for Hitler, nobody didn't. They were defending their homeland. So stop spreading lies, because you know nothing.
siczg 3 years ago
WTF. Ustashes were like in LOVE with hitler they didn't just respect him they adored him and in fact believed that the guy was a GOD. good honest ... hahahh hahhahh hahhahhah hahhahh ahhahha hahhahahah hahhahahah hahhahahah hahhahah hahahhah hahahhah hahahh hahhah hahahha hhahahh hahahha hahhahah hahhahah hahhahah hahhaha hahhahaha hhahahah hahhahah hahahhaha hahhahha hahhahha hahhahah hahahhah hahhahahah hahhahaha hahahhahah hahahahh ah ah .. my stomach hurts.
bezvezeceda 3 years ago 11
@bezvezeceda Pointless comment, especially as the Serbian Cetniks collaborated with the Ustashe and Nazis during the war for a small time. No one in the balkans was completely innocent.
gghostd 1 year ago
@gghostd
"...especially as the Serbian Cetniks collaborated with the Ustashe and Nazis during the war for a small time."
That's actually not true - it was propaganda produced by Tito's regime.
I touch on this briefly in my video "SilverRedIndigo Slanders the Serbs and Gets Down 'N' Funky with NATO's Cadre of Balkan PR Nazis" - see the description for documentation.
There's a photo showing Mihailovich with "Ustashas" is going around, but they were actually Muslim Cetniks!
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Changeling9au If that is the case then someone should delete the reference from wikipedia
gghostd 1 year ago
@gghostd
Ideally, yes.
The problem with Wikipedia is that...well...it's Wikipedia!
When there's a controversial issue on WP, facts take a back seat to the biases of entrenched WP editors - I know this from experience.
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Changeling9au You are right, I have been trying to access the Anti-Semitic article on there for a long time to include better references on what and who Semitic peoples are, unfortunately to no avail.
gghostd 1 year ago
YES ,BUT SO ARE CETNICK'S
kekinjoooo 2 years ago
"so are cetnicks" what?
fatto77 2 years ago 4
chetniks, he has a point... death to ustashe criminals.
SpArKpLuG12994 1 year ago
@bezvezeceda They were fascist, in many ways they excelled even the most brutal of German Nazi war crimes. But on the other side of the coin, they did represent the Croatian people who were tired of being invaded by empire after empire and those who longed for a country of their own so they could choose their own destiny. Just for the record I am not a Nazi, Ustashe or Nationalist sympathiser, I am just presenting a balanced argument. I do not condone their crimes against Serbs and Jews.
gghostd 1 year ago
@gghostd
"...they excelled even the most brutal of German Nazi war crimes. But on the other side of the coin, they did represent the Croatian people..."
Do you hear what you're saying?
How could a regime which out-Nazied the Nazis *possible* represent the Croatian people?
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Changeling9au You missed out the last part, where they want a nation of their own, with their own parliament, language and culture
gghostd 1 year ago
@gghostd
"...they want a nation of their own, with their own parliament, language and culture"
*All* tyrannical movements function, in part, by appealing to "legitimate grievances/issues".
Croatians celebrating the Ustashe on that basis is a bit like Germans marching on Hitler's birthday wearing Nazi uniforms saying "We're just celebrating what he did for the economy, we don't support his extermination policies! Honest!!"
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Changeling9au I appreciate what your saying, I do not condone the actions of the Ustashe. Also I am aware that they have used what I am saying as an excuse for their atrocities. But like many peoples within the Balkans, the Croatians suffered greatly because of being continuously invaded and used my Empires. Few Croatian people now who live in the sovereign Republic of Croatia can argue that it is not a good thing having your own country. Only a few of the older generation are still nostalgic..
gghostd 1 year ago
...about being Yugoslav and living within Yugoslavia.
gghostd 1 year ago
@bezvezeceda what a hell are you talking about? We were just loyal to him because he made a state to us NDH...
CroatianDude777 7 months ago
You stupid idot. It can't be more easier to understand than it is. Through history Croats were fighting for their land, we never fought on serb territory, we never attacked them, because we don't want their country, but they want our, because it is very nice and rich country. We were only defending what is ours and if you see sth bad in that you are a dickhead. If you ask me they should all be killed. They came on our territory yelling that this is their land. Stupid jews and serbs barbarians
siczg 3 years ago
Serbs used to make up 1/3 of people in Croatia before WW2. After killing 700,000 of us we made up 12% at the beginning of the war in 1991. And after the 1995 genocide we are down to under 2%.
You Croats are Nazi to the bone. Your ex-president Tudjman said it himself:
"Serbs in Croatia must be dealt with, and they must be dealt with by war."
Now go sell your bullshit to someone who doesn't know better. Krajina was Serbian. You stole it from us.
dmacid 2 years ago 8
First of all when Tudjman said so he was saying it because Serbia declared war on Croatia all because we asked for independance.
dsertlu 2 years ago
@dsertlu The Socialist federal republic of Yugoslavia did not declare war, but it sought to recapture control of the republics that proclaimed independance. Firstly it was Slovenia, then when they realised they couldn't regain control their focus went to Croatia, then Bosnia. But throughout the whole time it was the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in conflict with these countries, not Serbia proper. However Serbia was the largest country within the Socialist Federal Republic at the time
gghostd 1 year ago
@dmacid
Belgrad was the first judenfrei declared city in Europe so if i were you i would keep my opinions for myself
hehno1 1 year ago
@hehno1
"Belgrad was the first judenfrei declared city in Europe..."
Declared by who?
What's your point?
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@dmacid All sides were guilty of war crimes, each side took land, property, innocence and the lives of others.
gghostd 1 year ago
@dmacid If we are going back that far maybe you should look at the Serbian role in the Ottoman Empire where they bargained with the Ottomans using the Croatian and Bosnian people as 'chips' and 'pawns'. Instead of Serbian children being taken for military traing many Croatian male children were taken from their parents while they were very young and made to train in the Ottoman military. Most never saw their home or families again.
gghostd 1 year ago
lets see bosnia everyone was guilty serbs and muslims almost equally... the mujaheedins were the most evil no wonder the world is anti-islamic... In croatia the croats are ustashas, fascists not nazis who commited atrocities against serbs and they will burn for them any croat that died died becuase they supported the ustashas... SCREW USTASHAS and MUSLIMS
DeNiBLAG 3 years ago 2
he he the new serv slogaN IS :tell to the world same servs did it not wi!!!!!same servs comited genocide in srebrenica not wi(like thei ar not serbs to lol)same servs turned vukovar to a GHOST CITY not wi (like wi ar gos servs not like the ather 49%of them whu voted for nazi sheshelj.
albapollonia 3 years ago
so this is the new servian wey to du propoganda dennie evrything ,say no, there wos not crimes in balkans .120,000 hauses where burnt out in kosovo 3000 people still missing (but no !!there wos not serb genocide)fuck you .THERE WOS SERV GENOCIDE ,AND THE PEOPLE WHU MADE IT still rule the serbia todey.
albapollonia 3 years ago
Croats regret the crimes committed against Serbs in WWII. Croats celebrate the Ustasa, due to the fact that it was the movement that freed Croats from its 1000 years of foreign rule and slavery. Serb expansionism, which sought only the total annihilation of Croat culture, gave rise to the Ustasa. If our patriotism is viewed as fascism, that is your burden, not ours. We can live with that. Croats DO NOT celebrate atrocities.
(fool Srb & Croats do)
/watch?v=8GvGHdQ1oSU&feature
yeee wa-hoooooo!
CroOzzie 3 years ago
CroOzzie:"Croats regret the crimes committed against Serbs in WWII."
Followed immediately by this:
"Croats celebrate the Ustasa..."
Excelsior77 3 years ago 4
Exactly! What don't you understand. The beginnings of the Ustasa did not start with the intent of killing Serbs. It's origins date back a lot further, as a resistance movement to oppression and drive for independence. The abyss of killing was as a result of spiralling violence and brutality and elements of mad men.
Croats do regret the atrocities. But not their freedom. Yes! We celebrate them.
Were all German officers & troops cold blooded killers?
or just that element of mad men?
CroOzzie 3 years ago
Exactly! What don't you understand. The beginnings of the Ustasa did not start with the intent of killing Serbs. It's origins date back a lot further, as a resistance movement to oppression and drive for independence. The abyss of killing was as a result of spiralling violence and brutality and elements of mad men.
Croats do regret the atrocities. But not their freedom. Yes! We celebrate them.
Were all German officers & troops cold blooded killers?
or just that element of mad men?
CroOzzie 3 years ago
Why did this scum close his account, croozzie, his postings give my dog a higher I.Q. than at least 1 "human being."
slavicworldorder 2 years ago
@Excelsior77 This comment is out of context, what he means is that Croatians celebrate the more positive outcome of the nationalism, like the Croatian Spring, the independance of Croatia, making Croatian an official parliamentary language etc. Not war crimes and not the greater Croatia etc etc.
gghostd 1 year ago
So,CroOzzie, you say Croats "regret the crimes" of the Ustasha - over a Million Serbs,Jews,Roma & anti-fascist Croats murdered from 41 to 45 in the most barbaric manner - by "celebrating" the Ustasha?!Oh I see.Thanks for enlightening all of us here.
At least you are honest enough - for once at least - to admit that you are an out and out Ustasha Nazi supporter. Good to see your honesty on at least this one issue, CrOzzie.
Excelsior77 3 years ago 3
To suggest modern day Croatia has a genocidal policy toward Serbs is absurd.
Serb propaganda has once again brought all the aspiring brainwashed activists out of the woodwork.
If people want to champion the cause of genocide victims, there are "actual" acts of genocide being committed now, but, alas, there is a deadly silence on those postings.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
CroOzzie:"To suggest modern day Croatia has a genocidal policy toward Serbs is absurd." Oh I see. So you say that Croats TODAY "celebrate the Ustasha" - the murderous NAZI regime from WW2 responsible for slaughtering over a million people in 4 years - but then on the other hand you say that modern Croatia does not have a genocidal policy toward Serbs? Which perhaps explains why over 500,000 Serbs were ethnically cleansed from '91 -'95 by Franjo Tudjman's HDZ government & why "U" symbols are OK?
Excelsior77 3 years ago
Ridiculous figures of more than 1,000,000 killed. There is no evidence of that. How does a nation of 4,000,000 in WW2, most of which are rural peasants, have the infrastructure or resources to rival the Nazi death camps throughout Europe. The Ustase army numbered less than 200,000 men most of which most were combat regiments. It would have required more than half of it to run the many dozens of camps needed for that no.
BTW the total killed in all the Jugo nations for all WW2 is 1,027,000.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
@Excelsior77 The 'modern Croatia' not the Croatia 20 years ago. If you are referring to Krajina, I have read that a lot of Serb people were 'evacuated' by serbian military not kicked out of Krajina by Croatians. In order to present a balanced argument here. We understand you (Excelsior77) are visibly angry and possibly biased against Croatians. But what CroOzzie said is true, the Ustashe existed as a freedome movement prior to being taken over by facsists, as did the Serbian Cetniks for example.
gghostd 1 year ago
If the HSP has only "2%" following as you claim, and Thompson's songs glorifying Jasenovac murderers like Maks Luburic are not supported by the majority of Croats, then why did not Tudjman, Mesic or Sanadar EVER condemn these Croat Ustasha Nazis as being unrepresentative of Croat culture & society? Why is it that the "Za Dom Spremni" slogan & "NDH" & "U" symbols do NOT bother them? How come they do not bother you either?
USA4Eva1776 3 years ago 4
@USA4Eva1776 Again you are picking and choosing your sources and references without looking at others that contradict them. Yes people listen to Thompson, but they are in the minority. I know many Croatian people and they are ashamed and embarrassed, much like I am embarrassed about racist white bands here in the UK. You might be as well with those in the US, and those from Serbia (yes they do exist). Present a balanced argument.
gghostd 1 year ago
@gghostd
"Yes people listen to Thompson, but they are in the minority."
The issue isn't whether there's a minority of people listening to Thompson.
The issue is that there was a concert in Zagreb where around *60,000* Croatian youths wearing Ustashe paraphernalia were Seig Heiling.
To the best of my knowledge, nothing of that scale has occurred within fascist culture anywhere else in Europe since WW2.
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Changeling9au Ustashe and Nazi symbolism is illegal in Croatia as it is in Germany. The attendees of this concert possibly came from everywhere in Croatia and also possibly the extended European diaspora, not just Zagreb. Croatia is not the only European country where Nazi/fascist symbols and slogans have been openly expressed by a crowd. No one can clarify whether the whole crowd were involved or whether it was small groups. In perspective 60,000 people is 1.3% of the current population (4.5m)
gghostd 1 year ago
@Changeling9au Also, I once saw one youth with a Croatian puppet state grb (Croatian shield) without the Ustashe U on the shoulder of his black jacket in Zagreb, but other than that I have never seen anything in the last 5 years. However there appears to be a rise in the amount of Nazi graffiti in Zagreb with the U and crvena akcija (red action) being quite common in most places.
gghostd 1 year ago
"Srbe Na Vrbe" is a very common saying in Croatia today, just as it was in Ustasha Nazi Croatia during World War 2.Translated into English it means:
"Serbs should be HUNG from willow trees".
TheShield04,you are a self-confessed Ustasha Nazi, s acknowledged here by your very own comments trying to defend the straight armed Ustasha salute & slogan "Za Dom Spremni" as:
"I cannot tell you that the ancient Roman legion solute has been popular in croatian culture before say the late 1800's"
USA4Eva1776 3 years ago 4
Really! This appears to be a popular saying amongst Serbs, which was used during the war in Croatia in the 90's
SLOBODANE POSALJI NAM SALATE, BICE MESA, BICE MESA, KLACEMO HRVATE
Translated into English:
SLOBODAN SEND US THE SALAD, THERE WILL BE MEAT, THERE WILL BE MEAT, WE ARE GOING TO SLAUGHTER THE CROATS.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
CrOzzie: "Really! This appears to be a popular saying amongst Serbs, which was used during the war in Croatia in the 90's"
Problem is, this is NOT a "popular saying amongst Serbs". We do NOT see 60,000 to 100,000 Serbs at concerts chanting this abhorrent slogan.
What we DO see is 60 to 100 thousand Croats giving the "Sieg Heil" Nazi salute (accompanied by the Ustasha Nazi chant: "Za Dom Spremni!")at Marko Perkovic (aka "Thompson")concerts all over Croatia, Canada, the US, Australia, etc.
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
Za Dom Spremni (For home - ready!,) is a resistance cry, not a Nazi slogan.
Is it 100,000 fans at a rock concert chanting "Srbe na Vrbe" or a minority of youth pumped up on adrenaline, drink and whatever else venting their frustration, to the provocation from Serbs (such as that seen here) e.g. KLACEMO HRVATI, Chetnik songs, claims of territorial rights, etc. Put it into perspective, please.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
@Excelsior77 Still out of a population of 5m people it is a minority that you are trying to present as a majority.
gghostd 1 year ago
@USA4Eva1776 Absolute rubbish, I have been to Croatia extensively in the last 5 years, and I can say I have never heard anyone say 'Srbe na vrbe', 'za dom spremni' or other racist/nationalist slogans. In the street or otherwise.
gghostd 1 year ago
TheShield04 writes:"...and know, i cannot tell you that the ancient Roman legion solute has been popular in croatian culture before say the late 1800's....but even then probably not as popular until WWII...but i don't see your point...most croats don't do that, and i'm not offended if they do anyways...i don't f*cking care, because it is harmless..."
"Most Croats don't do that",huh? Nazi salutes are "harmless" in your view are they?
And sayings like "Srbe na Vrbe" are harmless too huh?
USA4Eva1776 3 years ago 4
TheShield04: I suppose you are also going to try and tell me that the straight arm Fascist-Nazi Ustasha salute & the "Za Dom Spremni" chant at Marko Perkovic Thompson concerts attended by 60,000 to 100,000 Croats at a time - and endorsed by the Croat government of Mesic & Sanadar - is also harmless Croat culture which "has been around for centuries" right?
Nazi Ustasha Moron.
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
ok, whatever....why does that incident get RAVING media attention and critiicism.....but there is NO criticism associated with the much more popular Cetnik pride and symbols. or the fact that the most popular political party was the Serbian Radical Party and now is 2nd most popular (much more popular than croatia's HSP...2%)...and the S. R. P. seaks croatian lands, as well as bosnia and hercegovina.....serbian conquest and fascist goals go completely un-checked, and have been for 100 years
TheShield04 3 years ago
and know, i cannot tell you that the ancient Roman legion solute has been popular in croatian culture before say the late 1800's....but even then probably not as popular until WWII...but i don't see your point...most croats don't do that, and i'm not offended if they do anyways...i don't f*cking care, because it is harmless compared do the politics of serbia. the croat coat of arms has been a unifying symbol for all croats since at least the 15th century.
TheShield04 3 years ago
@Excelsior77 Again these are a minority, I resent your lack of a balanced argument
gghostd 1 year ago
"...when croatia was in your hands"
Listen "TheShield04", you Croat Nazi Ustashe moron. I am not a Serb but an AUSTRALIAN OF SCOTTISH & IRISH DESCENT WHO DETESTS NAZI APOLOGISTS LIKE YOURSELF.Got that?
The "U" symbol on the black T-shirts and uniforms worn by Tudjman's HDZ approved & endorsed ZNG & HOS/HSP troops during the 1990's -and even to this day - stands for "USTASHA" - the genocidal Croatian Nazi regime led by Ante Pavelic from 1941 to 1945.
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
@Excelsior77 I have seen many videos and pictures of the HOS and HSP in combat during the wars between 1991 and 1995 and I have never seen Croatian paramilitaries in black uniforms in combat. However I have seen Serbian paramilitaries in black uniforms, are you sure you aren't mixing them up? Where is your balanced argument?
gghostd 1 year ago
Here is a quote from one of the preceding ISSA Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy articles from 1992:
"Today, the newly-independent State of Croatia has adopted the same symbols as the Ustaše puppet nazi state. In many instances its military and para-military units have adopted the same uniforms of the 1941-45 Ustaše Black Legions. And the killing has begun again. The dispossession has begun again."
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
those "symbols" (i guess you are reffering to the Croatian Coat of Arms) has been around for centuries. this was also used for the croatian republic of yugoslavia, and soccer teams....wasn't fascist when croatia was in your hands i guess huh?? you are retarded.
TheShield04 3 years ago
The "NDH" symbol on the Tudjman HDZ approved & endorsed ZNG & HOS/HSP black uniforms and T-shirts worn by many Croats today stands for "INDEPENDENT STATE OF CROATIA" - the murderous Ustasha Nazi regime led by Ante Pavelic - responsible for the genocide of over a million Serbs, Jews, Roma & anti-fascists of various nationalities from 1941 to 1945.
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
@Excelsior77 You could equally mention the 'Greater Serbia' movement that was and still is idolised by Serbian nationalists. The only difference is one existed and one didn't (or hasn't yet). Again lack of a balanced argument
gghostd 1 year ago
@gghostd you are retarded Greater Serbia was dropped for Yugoslavia serbs sacrificed 4 million lives for yugoslavia for their brothers Croats and Muslims when you think about it Greater Serbia would have been better then Yugoslavia for the serbs
SilniSvarog 1 year ago
Google: Tudjman Ustashe Nazi
"Hiding Genocide
Croatia has resumed its "liquidation" of Serbs, while arguing that "ethnic cleansing" is a Serbian creation"
"Croatia at a Key Strategic Croassroad builds Militarily and Geographically"
"For Serbians, Fears of a German Axis Rise For The Third Time This Century"
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
CroOzzie, FYI I am a fourth generation Australian of mixed Scottish and Irish heritage and I can spot an Ustashe Nazi apologist for Tudjman like yourself a mile away.
Nazi MORON.
Excelsior77 3 years ago
If you are to mention someone, have the desency to reply to their comments and not just post them.
I see your HYSTERICAL rantings are in full swing now. ^_^
CroOzzie 3 years ago
"Sophistry? Not throwing anything back at serbs. You miss the point! Must be genetic."(Translation: I'm a Croat Ustasha Nazi Racist Moron whom assumes that anybody who disagrees with me must be either a Serb or in some way genetically flawed and I hope people dont Google "Tudjman & the Ustashe Nazi genocide of Krajina Serbs")
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
"serbian uprising slowed hitler" operation Barbarossa being slowed down was for a number of factors...Musselini having trouble in Greece, Yugoslavia (Croatian Dalmatia specifically, Dalmatians started the Partisan uprising against Italians, not serbs...anyways), and albania is more speculator....there were a number of reasons...but my history teacher told our class Barbarossa was slowed down because of Greece. If you watch BBC they may say Yugo, cause Brits are pro Yugo/serb (but not Blair)
TheShield04 3 years ago
...i don't mean to call you "full of shit", got kind of pissed....but i don't think you have actually researched everything on WWII, and the 90's wars....seams that you really on CNN for the "croatian version" (which isn't even pro-croat), and documentaries and outdated encyclopedia britanica articles for the Balkan "WWII history". try to find the actual STORY...but remember one thing, if your "Croatian Friends" are Croats, then they believe Croatia has a right to be free. Greece slowed hitler
TheShield04 3 years ago
here is my position: when i look at conflicts i don't focus on the "atrocities" (and don't assume everything serbs say is true about the Ustase either).....but I do care about freedom.....Croatia has a right to exist, does it not? and that's the point, any serb propaganda is focused on Serbian political elements expanding their territory.
TheShield04 3 years ago
Google: "Hiding Genocide Croatia has resumed its liquidation of Serbs, while arguing that ethnic cleansing is a Serbian creation"
"Croatia, at a Key Strategic Crossroad, Builds Militarily and Geographically"
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
Do you hate Muslims?
jackh4eva 3 years ago
Good video. You said everything there is to say, plain and simple!
5/5
HydroShock91 3 years ago 4
You got "day release" once again I see!
^_^
CroOzzie 3 years ago
Google "Tudjman & the Croatian Ustashe Nazi Genocide of Krajina Serbs Part 2" to see what the Tudjman HDZ Croat Nazis did when they ethnically cleansed 500,000 Serbs from 1991 to 1995.
USA4Eva1776 3 years ago 4
You got me! The Serbs are a holy and righteous people and there is a conspiracy to attribute culpability for all those civilians that massacred, then buried themselves in mass graves.
On the other hand, all Croats aspire to realising their dream for the extermination of all Serbs.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
Strawman.
Red Herring.
Appeal to ridicule.
Any other logically fallacious nonsense you'd like to share with us today?
Changeling9au 3 years ago
It's hard to make sense of recent news out of Croatia questioning whether yet another CroNazi hero, one of Tudjman's Generals, actually deserves such exulted status, or even his pension, now that he stands accused of killing his Croat neigbhours, including a 16 year old boy, in the very same manner he used to kill his Serb neighbours, for which he won his stripes. CroNazis, meanwhile, pride themselves that such a legal discrepancy exists in Croatia, they wouldn't have it any other way.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 2
Multi-ethnicity is understood in a strange way by CroNazis. For them nothing is more important than seeing a purified Croatia under the principle of "Ein volk, stadt, Führer bla-bla-bla Danke Deutschland". They deny this, however, pointing out Nazis from all over Europe joined Tudjman's army, which also recruited Albanians and Muslim mercenaries. Multiculturalism done right. Many CroNazis live in USA, Oz, filthy mongrel places yes, but the Catholic Churches there can raise a lot of cash.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 4
rly nice vid,i agree with u on the ww2 subject,about delay of operation "barbarosa"
tho i wanted to tell u all of the participiants of the balkan wars were and are the same people,but manipulated coz of religion,we are all brothers,aspecialy montenegrians(they are called that coz of the region,but they call them selves serbs)and serbs
nikola1389 3 years ago
CroNazi support for the ICTY is very limited.
If the accused are Serbs (90% of the accused) then the ICTY is good.
If the accused is a Croat, however, then this is proof of the global conspiracy against the homeland and Belgrade's control over the ICTY.
Watch HRT television to learn this and more.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
CroNazis see themselves as historical victims who were forced to buy Hungarian weapons, recruit Nazis from all over Europe (as well as Albanians and mercenaries), and betray the consitution of Yugoslavia in order to protect the hard-earned demographic gains from WWII in which they wiped out a Serb population that exceeded 41%. Greatest sympathisers for this image of Croats as some sort of victims include Bill and Hillary Clinton, both well known for their self serving interpretations of history.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
I don't see any valid arguments offered up by CroNazis on this board. Just too telling how they imitate Albanians in assuming 4-5 consecutive posts of racist gibberish must somehow serve as an adequate substitute for one valid argument. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
I don't know how spanonski expects to win any sympathy for his pathological antiSerb hatred by posting his "No!No!Serbs are the fascists" videos, especially when he also posts videos "exposing" Serbs as "Borat" stereotypes.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
Jadni Srbin,
Treba vam ovaj budala.
Vidi se da je bolestan.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
y dont u translate that into english. but i gess ill do it
Poor Serb,
U need this stupid guy.
You can see he is sick.
Econ0012 3 years ago 2
Why translate?
He has you in his pocket to do that for him.
However, he is more than likely a Serb anyway. Keep licking his wounds.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
no i want others too see that when a person is loosing an argument they usually resolt to bad behaviour.
Econ0012 3 years ago 2
What arguement have I lost?
He constantly contradicts himself. Here he states that he does not deny that Serbs committed war crimes, on other videos "that they never did"
I don't deny Ustashe committed crimes. They did. But to deny Chetnik WW2 crimes, 1990's Srebrenica, Brcko, Omarska, etc. is just absurd.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
CroOzzie writes:"He constantly contradicts himself. Here he states that he does not deny that Serbs committed war crimes, on other videos "that they never did"
LIAR. Stop putting your own words into his mouth.A typical "straw man" specious argument you are using here in order to cover for Tudjman's neo-Ustashi genocide & ethnic cleansing of 500,000 Serbs in the Krajina area from 1991-1995.
USA4Eva1776 3 years ago 2
The so called "Hague" where you claim all "the evidence is at" is a Kangaroo Court controlled and funded by NATO - as even NATO officials, Richard Holbrooke and Meddlin Halfbright themselves have PUBLICLY admitted repeatedly.And your ridiculous claim that Changeling9au is "more than likely a Serb anyway" and your reliance on the Clinton/Albright-created Hague sham shows just how vacuous and hollow your so-called "evidence" of "Serb war crimes" in "Srebrenica,Brcko & Omarska" really is.
USA4Eva1776 3 years ago 4
Does that also include evidence against Croats accused of war crimes, or just the evidence presented for accused Serbs?
There was the holocaust, Jasenovac, and the killing fields of the Balkans in WW2, but the lasting memory for most of the world will be the crimes against humanity committed by Serbs in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo.
You are all now labelled in the same manner as Croats are labelled Ustase.
Enjoy!
CroOzzie 3 years ago
I wouldn't take anything coming out of the Hague at face value - including anything which appears directed at Croatians and Muslims.
The evidence against the NATO-backed forces in the Balkans exists in abundance. We don't *need* anything coming out of the Hague - including its few limited hangout indictments of a few Croatians and Muslims.
Cute attempt at sophistry, though. I'll give you that much.
Changeling9au 3 years ago
"...but the lasting memory for most of the world will be the crimes against humanity committed by Serbs in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo."(Translation: I hope people don't do any of their own research and find out that when Tudjman & the HDZ party came to power in May,1990, the CROATIAN NAZI USTASHI STATE WAS RESURRECTED.Tudjman invited hundreds of old surviving WW2 Ustashi war criminals along with their sons & grandsons - who all escaped justice due to the Vatican's smuggling network:"RATLINES")
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
"Tudjman & the HDZ party came to power in May,1990, the CROATIAN NAZI USTASHI STATE WAS RESURRECTED.Tudjman invited hundreds of old surviving WW2 Ustashi war criminals" We were told a similar story - except is was cetnik murderers and their sons and grandsons - funny that! no wonder such hysteria makes ppl commit horrific crimes - Budalo jedan!
CroOzzie 3 years ago
"We were told a similar story - except is was cetnik murderers and their sons and grandsons - funny that! no wonder such hysteria makes ppl commit horrific crimes.."(Translation: I cannot deny the irrefutable fact that Tudjman invited hundreds of WW2 Ustashi Nazi war criminals back to Croatia with their sons and grandsons and gave them government posts - without sounding like a total LIAR,so I will just use sophistry & casuistry & throw the accusation back on the Serbs & call it mere "hysteria")
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
Sophistry? Not throwing anything back at serbs. You miss the point! Must be genetic.
Point being, such HYSTERICAL claims led to CRIMES being committed - Yes! Germans with the Jews, Ustasa and Serbs(NO ONE DENIES THIS - GUILTY), & Serb Cetniks in the 90's.
In the 90's neighbours turned on each other including those that had Kumovi from both Catholic and Orthodox neighbours.
"CROATIAN NAZI USTASHI STATE WAS RESURRECTED"
(Translation: You are a moron, moreover a dangerous moron)
CroOzzie 3 years ago
/watch?v=SzHUQ0Xtb98&NR=1
see what fools see1
CroOzzie 3 years ago
watch?v=x4X0LP4h-cA
Excelsior77 3 years ago 2
hahaha you croatians are sick! dude! in ww2 YOU croatians killed INOCENT CIVILIAN KIDS! in jasenovac you fucking idiot! hahahaha!
CCCC!!!!!
realserbian 3 years ago
Yea maybe during WW@ but less then 20 yrs ago you all were killing inocent Croatian kids and Bosnian kids.. YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT U Cetniks would have learned.. from the past.. STUPID!
XoVanettaXo 3 years ago
yea, you killed over 5000 kids in jasenovac.. and we better dont talk about what happened in kragujevac.. but the most what us is hurting.. thats that croatian and the bosnian betrayed us, please, ask your parents.. what your ensisters we're they will maybe lie to you maybe they wont.. but why do you think that we all can understand each other? vuk karadzic is the creator of serbian language.. what the creator of bosnian or croatian lanuage? plz tell me i dont know it. :S
CCCC!!
realserbian 3 years ago 2
Proto-Slavic is the proto-language from which Old Church Slavonic and all the other Slavic languages later emerged. It was spoken before the seventh century.
The original homeland of the speakers of Proto-Slavic also remains controversial. The most ancient recognisably Slavic hydronyms (river names) are to be found in northern and western Ukraine and southern Belarus.
19th century Vuk Karadzic is not the creator,
he refined Serbian language/literature.
Oh! XoVanettaXo didn't killed anyone
CroOzzie 3 years ago
God of mercy. I've just seen some of you videos.
What makes you an authority, that you should need to be presented with evidence to verify whether these crimes occured or not.
The holocaust occured, but I suppose Serbs having been the first to exterminate Jews in Europe, hence being the first Jew free nation in Europe is denied by you.
Get therapy and don't bother replying.
Even crazed, murderous, throat cutting Serb chetniks, are more rational than you.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
Thankyou CroOzzie, you've publically revealed what I already knew - that you're a fraud who is not only incapable of providing even a *scrap* of evidence to support your absurd assertions, you don't even think you have to.
"..but I suppose Serbs having been the first to exterminate Jews in Europe, hence being the first Jew free nation in Europe is denied by you."
That's a *CLASSIC* matey! Even the most mallet-happy, Jasenovac-jolly, head-sawing Ustashe is more rational than you.
Changeling9au 3 years ago
1. The evidence is at The Hague, fool
2. What are the Serbs doing for you (or to you)?
3. I asked you not to reply.
You are not all there!!!!
CroOzzie 3 years ago
Evidence of white washing of Serb crimes?
Do your research, you'll find facts if you want to.
Deniers of Serbia's War Crimes
The Whitewash of Serb Atrocities
No one could never condone the murder of innocent civilians, however I see you are a genocide denier yourself.
You cannot be serious.
You either a Serb, a Serb sympathiser, or just trying to wind Croats up.
goni se u kurac
CroOzzie 3 years ago
International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia in The Hague
found in which Serb soldiers killed more than 7,000 Bosnian Muslim men and boys.
Bosnia Serb concentration camps, a notable example: Brcko, where Bosnia Serbs murdered 3,000 military age Muslim men in 1992
The atrocities, the rapes, and the mutilations in concentration camps like Omarska.
Kosovo!... and the list goes on
CroOzzie 3 years ago
The HagueTribunal's indictment, Serb militias removal of some 300 men to Ovcara farm, four kilometres outside Vukovar then executed and then buried in a mass grave.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
What do you call someone that white-washes Serb atroctiies?
"The more they lie, the more they are Serbs... The bigger
the lie, the better the Serb.."
CroOzzie 3 years ago
Which Serb atrocities are you claiming have been whitewashed?
You will need to provide evidence of alleged Serb atrocities, as well as evidence that they have been whitewashed.
Changeling9au 3 years ago
Pre WW2 massacre of muslim and Croat civilians in Croatia and Bosnia, ultimately leading to systematic retribution by the Ustashe.
The massacre of 150,000 Croat men, women, and children at the end of WW2 and Bleiburg.
CroOzzie 3 years ago
I am from Serbia, and I must say to everyone who have interest in Balkan conflicts, that we Serbs live in very bad neighborhood(Albanian,Muslims,Croatians,Turks), and we have fight whit them thru history many times because they wanted to destroy us(we defended us). That is the reason of all conflicts on the Balkans, because we did not wanted to joyn them.
ceda666 3 years ago 2
Im from Croatia. LOL you think that Croatians wanted Serbs 2join them as one country?WRONG! Croatians werent one who started the war and neither were the Bosnians it was the SERBS!Croatia wanted to become INDEPENDENT frm Yugoslavia(which was being run by majority of SERBS)& Serbia didnt want that so they tryed to stop us that is why there was war in Balkans, Who came to Vukovar & killed inocent people.. SERBS!!Croatians didnt come to Serbia & kill ur people
XoVanettaXo 3 years ago
lol,yeah,u just wanted quietly,to break away and make etnicly "clean" like 50% of the territorys that u never evin fought for in wars,yeah the bad serbs didn't want to give 50% of the countrys to some pour nazis that just wanted to kick out/kill the sers that live there(and lived)and you croats bosnians etc as much as u want to denie it,are serbs,descendints of those who changed they'r faith to live better,and we offered slovenia to leave,but america wanted it all at once so there would be a war
nikola1389 3 years ago
SO ur WRONG Croatia was defending its people and its land to be free.. same with Bosnia and Slovenia at the end even Crna Gora didnt want to be part of Serbia anymore! YOu have been fed all Lies.. but that is no surprise Serbians will never see the truth.. bc they DONT WANT TO SEE IT! Srebrenica happend, so did Vukovar! ASk people who LIVES IT!!! NO someone liek you who watched TV and had reports tell you what they wanted u to know..so stupid!!
XoVanettaXo 3 years ago
and ofc u didn't come 2 "our"(most of "croatia" is our)land and kill serbs,u had enough serbs in ur own neighborhood to kill,lot more of us died then u,more mass graves of serbs(or later proven to be serb)then "bosnians" or "croats"
Tho i still see you and ur "people"(people and nation)as brothers,tho easyly manipulated
nikola1389 3 years ago
HAHAHAH what u said is such GARBAGE that i wont even waste my bnreath to comment on it.. bc u obv DONT KNOW SHIT! According to you.. all Croatians, Slovenian's, Bosnians, and even Albains from Kosovo were ALL WRONG and out to get the serbs and hte serbs were sitting htere all innocent LOLOL PLEASE !save ur lies for someone who is stupid enough to listen to you! I LIVED IT I had serbs in my town killing people I know what i saw with my EYES!!
XoVanettaXo 3 years ago
AND NEWS FLASH not all Croatians are Ustase! U dont know SHIT! Thats why its not worth responding to ur Ignorant comments! HAHAHAHA yeaa mass graves of serbs LOL where are all the bodies and graves huh? YOUR GOVERNMENT and MEDIA lied to you.. the serbian propoganda! At least there are Graves to Prove the dead in Vukovar & Srebrenica! Ur proof is all in ur HEAD! DOnt bother commenting back to me little girl Im not wasting anymore time on you!
XoVanettaXo 3 years ago
rofl,when did i say all croats are ustashes?by that i'd be only hitting my self in the face,one of my best friends is croat(and all of you from the former yugoslavia are serbs,u changed ur religion to live alittle better)ur close minded,u don't think when u read this,u just have a picture in ur head that what ever is written here is some stereotipe that u guyz have in ur head,and don't want to listen to anything that goes agains ur "logic",so u dismiss me with that comment,wasting time lil'girl.
nikola1389 3 years ago
Croatia is the only place in Europe in the 21st century where you will find 60,000+ persons recreating the Nuremberg rallies. Your video helps explain what other hobbies CroNazis have, after bleating "Sieg Heil" and "Kill Serbs" for 2-3 hours to the beat of hate rock, the most popular form of musical expression among CroNazis. Apparently CroNazi hobbies include uploading videos warning of a global conspiracy to portray Croatia as a haven for Hitler-loving savages in the 21st century.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
Thank you for this very informative video.
Keep it up, 5/5.
HydroShock91 3 years ago 2
CroNazis from a pathological complex very common twhich does not stop at hating Serbs. No, it goes well beyond that. For CroNazis, Franjo Tudjman's writings are not genocide denial, but exposing that degenerate scribble as such is. Tudjman's CroNazis massacring the Holocaust survivors of WWII at Gospic, Medak, Slavonia and dozens of other places inside Croatia and Herzegovina are not genocide, but the RSK's trying to stop it is. Thanks for exposing unrepentent CroNazis.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 2
Interesting video!
I read some comments about it. People, I'm shocked!
I can't understand why morally depraved persons from USA or Great Britain write their hellish comments! USA+UK=the main terrorist of our Planet!
FUCK YOU, PIDORS!
iamartem 3 years ago 2
Интересное видео!
Я здесь почитал комментарии. Я в шоке!
Я не понимаю, хули всякие пидары из Великобритании или других стран здесь пишут всякую срань? Хули, блять, они везде лезут?
УЕБКИ, ИДИТЕ НА ХУЙ!
iamartem 3 years ago
well-done thanks
su27forserbia 3 years ago 2
Sorry for writing in serbian it was to those who don't have a clue what is this all about. Thank you Changeling for being inteligent.
Jakili04 3 years ago 3
Molim one koji pojma nemaju o čemu ovaj čovek priča da se ne uključuju u raspravu.
Jakili04 3 years ago 2
Another amazing speech by you m8! And another lesson of truth to all the brainwashed people. Yes, in any war there are always those who commit atrocities on both sides! But, through your videos, you are showing the other side whose mouth was shut all those years due to media bias!
And you couldn't have been more accurate about HRW, about Soros, CFR, Bilderbergers controling it! Soros is right now ruining my country through the NGOs, media and politiacl parties he finances!
Talk to you soon!
KiMisSerbia 3 years ago 3
I like to think those nazi scum freezing to death in russia is poetic justice.
ThunderAppeal 3 years ago 5
Thank you Chanqelinq9au!
srbchicago 3 years ago 6
wow you have serious problems
Velikahrvatska01 3 years ago
Serbs like Peggytoo think they are still going to get there Greater Serbia however it is only whishfull thinking. Complete nieve if she or he thinks its possiable.
Marbus0 3 years ago
Marbus. When you have nothing intelligent to say then you start to put words in my mouth. I never said I am dreaming of greater Serbia. All I said was that Serbian territories should be returned to the Serbs and no territories should be stolen. Do you actually understand a simple discussion or are you just playing dumb?
peggytoo 3 years ago 8
and what terortories are they?
Marbus0 3 years ago
Fuck off nazi. NATO & the US give you papal bootlickers enough money.
BleiburgVictory1945 3 years ago 6
Velikahrvatska01 Fuck off nazi.
BleiburgVictory1945 3 years ago 5
I am back from work.Peggytoo do you need help or you are good?
srbchicago 3 years ago
srbchicago. I am handling this guy ok for now. Charles has had a go at him and got called a Nazi for it. You see this spanonski is a joke so come in if you like but otherwise enjoy the show. I am.
peggytoo 3 years ago 2
off to sleep..good night
spanonski 3 years ago
You guys need to go to b92net channel.
You Serbian YV is telling you exactly how it is.The only normal and independant media in your country.Watch it and mourn you former primeminister Djindjic who was a great man.Your maffia and politicians killed him.
spanonski 3 years ago
Spanonski, any man that is endorsed by either Croatians or Albanians is not the right man to lead the Serbian people. Why don't you pay attention who is leading your beloved people instead of giving Serbs advice on who to accept in their government and who to reject. Anyone who Croatia considers a great man is the wrong man for Serbia. Simple.
peggytoo 3 years ago
he didn't endorese anyone.he was just a great democrat and a honest man.such a man cant last long in serbia so you killed him.
spanonski 3 years ago
spanonski, Holland would fall into place very quickly if Serbia gave up on Kosovo. Nothing to do with Mladic. These are all dirty trick they employ to get what they want. They got what they want from you but you are still hoping and waiting. You are owned by them. How does it feel to be a slave? Serbs are free and will always be free. That's something you can't stomach. The deal is a bribe for Kosovo. BTW, stop saying Serbs are Nazis, that's you guys.
peggytoo 3 years ago
hahaha we are slaves of europeans??lol
that's why our people earn 3x more then in Serbia....looool
spanonski 3 years ago
spanonski don't talk shit. Croatia is not well off at all. I have spoken to many Croatians here who know how their relatives live. We do have Croatian shows here on ethnic channels and they show how inflation has put the brakes on Croatia and what your money can buy compared to what your money could buy. Your best real estate is owned by the Germans. Like this guy in the video said. You can bullshit people who don't know.
peggytoo 3 years ago
off course the economy strugels as we had to built everything up what you blew up.
it's not moslty owned by germans but by austria and italy.
Croatia owns a lot in Serbia for that matter.
spanonski 3 years ago
Well, an admission that your country is owned by other countries. Is that why you are now struggling to fight Slovenia for a piece of land because you have given the rest away? Yes, many Croatians live in Serbia and own property, so what of it? This proves how liberal and not racist Serbia is. These Croatians live in peace and are not complaining. Doesn't this tell you something? You are wrong. That's what is says. Serbia is not a Nazi state. They welcome others.
peggytoo 3 years ago 3
I'm also not complaining,i just hate your propaganda.
spanonski 3 years ago
I hate your propaganda too. I also hate innocent people dying. You on the other hand seem to approve very much of Serbs dying. That's why I condemn Croatians and your pals the Muslims for deaths of innocent people. You don't know how to pick good friends so you pick Islamic extremists. Don't blame me for condemning you for it. BTW for the thousandth's time, Serbs are not Nazis. That discrace goes to you and history proves it.
peggytoo 3 years ago 2
Where did I say that i approve any Serb dying??.I never said anything like that.
spanonski 3 years ago
You don't have to be German to be a nazi.
To try to exterminate a nation so you can live in a Serbs state,while expelling or killing everyone else is Nazism.
spanonski 3 years ago
spanonski you definately don't have to be German to be a Nazi. You are living proof ot that.
peggytoo 3 years ago 3
you are very ignorat.I consider myself a antifacist.how the hell can i be a nazi???
I hate all kinds of extrimism.
spanonski 3 years ago
Holland said Mladic.google it.
and serbian radical party is a nazi party.
spanonski 3 years ago
Its a bunch of sad pathteic loosers who want whole balkans to be Serbian.
Marbus0 3 years ago
No Marbus. Serbs don't want to rule the Balkans. They only want the territories that are theirs. No more, no less. Stop throwing accusations around when you can't prove anything. That only makes you look stupid. Try proving you point with facts. Oh that's right. You don't know anything. You are only repeating propaganda you got from tv.
peggytoo 3 years ago 2
yeah which in there eyes is the whole balakns and it was never yours to begin with. Stop fooling yourselves your only making yourselves look stupid.
Marbus0 3 years ago
Marbus. Looking and sounding stupid is your specialty. Serbs never invaded anybody's land. They have always bravely defended theirs. Serbian history is something the Serbs can be proud of unlike Croatians, Muslims and Albanians. You three only have each other as nobody else respects you. Your history is full of shame.
peggytoo 3 years ago