Scientology: Ok Guys Its Not Funny Anymore

[faith808girl]

i totally agree with you CrazyDelaney... im disgusted by religious bigots...

[martymarty67]

keep exposing them .thanks for this speach on them ..

[NyxFTW]

We've been telling Scientologists since 2008 that Anonymous isn't an organization, but a collection of random people without identities coming together for a common goal.

It's 2011. What has changed? They think protesters are being paid by Anonymous Inc.

...

ANONYMOUS INC.

[MrSladeTheBlade]

Dude, I guess you're assuming everyone knows what a "PM" is - is this youtube language or somthing? Hmmm. I'm scanning around the page and I don't see anything that tells us what PM is....?

[kharmablue1]

@MrSladeTheBlade  A "PM" is a private message. :o)

[DEATH94SQUAD]

its not a church its a occult

[bigrobnz]

Well said- those guys really do want to protect their "bottom line" and if there are casuaties they wont worry about it- in fact a few bodies around is usually good for business as far as they are concerned!

[swisscheesemarilyn]

You are so right. I am so tired of the BS the church is putting out there about anonymous! I too at first wanted to mock it or whatever (because it is so obvious how fake the whole thing is) but then it just got me irritated to imagine people actually believing this stuff. Scientology is a dangerous , evil , cult , I was a sea org , I was a scientologist, I know. And you don't have to have been in it to realize that it's all about the money. Nothing else. Peace-

[only1too]

look into why $cientology is having rouble in germany....they've heard the same fascist "spirituality" before...

not to mention ronny was acquainted with the likes of crowley(pronounced 'crow' as in eat some) & parsons- both satanist...

[Williehutch2]

Cant we all just get along Rondney king! Freedom of Speech is America cryptonite

[analyzingfunny]

Crazy can sense of the $cientology bullshit!

[writhe86]

If everyone just walked away and expected things to quietly work themselves out, there would still be slavery, no womens rights, no constitution, I can keep going if you don't get the point...

[MetalicaFan2007]

u cant fight crazy wit crazy anomonysus should stop throwin bombs and blowin shit up the sciontologists are usin u as uh a way of making themselves look like the victims stop responding to there comments and protesting they will have noeone else to blame wen shit goes down and we can all joyfuly watch there creepy church burn

[NoReligion138]

eh, I agree with you dude and understand where you're coming from this.

[anonanonx2]

Lots of different types of people choose to protest against the Co$ anonymously. One reason is because people think the medical claims of Scientology are lies for example: "Scientology is the principle [sic] agency that is preventing and treating people for radiation at this time." -L. Ron. Hubbard, All about radiation

[quitejaded]

The /b/tards who are a part of anonymous promote racism using the N word every chance they get and using blacks as the butt of their jokes. I'm not surprised someone is gonna write an article about how they promote hate...

[CrazyDelaney]

There are two different factions of this thing called Anonymous. One is protesting Scientology's abuses and the other just pulls pranks that are often in poor taste. Scientology is fear mongering in my opinion. Furthermore, the /b/tards of 4chan aren't fans of protesting Scientology calling it "moral faggotry." You can have a problem with Anonymous if you wish but don't ignore Scientology's abuses because of that.

[Anonanonanonymous]

The /b/tards were interested in scientology for about a month, but more directly, what does 4chan have to do with the current protesters? most of whom have never even visited the chans, let alone post a comment on any of them.

This comparison continues to to show either a complete misunderstanding of who the protesters are, or more likely, a continuing dedication to lying on the part of the CoS.

[quitejaded]

Then who are the protestors?... Because if they are going to call themselves "anonymous" then they are going to be associated with 4chan and other internet boards. That's the way it is. You guys got TV coverage along with the stereotypes other internet users have about you.

[Anonanonanonymous]

The statement stands,

and your reply is telling..."thats the way it is"? so, despite the fact that CoS protesting Anons are obviously not /b/tards, it doesn't matter...we should just accept the intellectual sloth that you embrace by saying: because the incorrect info is out there it simply must be accepted.

CoS will never ask the protestors because it helps them to paint themselves as victims. Just as Holocaust deniers paint Germany as a victim?

fail

[quitejaded]

Wait what? OBVIOUSLY not btards? Maybe obvious TO YOU. Not to me or all the other people who are not involved with this... So either educate people or get over yourself.

[Anonanonanonymous]

Two hours of research into this subject, with a little understanding of human nature tossed in would educate anyone wanting to be educated.

/b/tards are pretty much dedicated surfers of the chans, they are small in numbers relatively speaking thousands of young males, an even smaller fraction of whom are talented with code.

They were interested in the "War on CoS" for about the first month or two while it was somewhat personal. Since then "Chanology" has been barely on their radar...

[Anonanonanonymous]

Look at the protesters? both sexes, all ages, all walks of life. It should be obvious that the older protesters ( bunker, magoo, et ) had probably never even heard of the Chans or anonymous.

I have 200 co-workers, 90% under 30, 11 miles away from gold base, last janurary NONE of them knew anything about "chans".

Look at sparrow, agp, anonorange, do ANY of them look the type to have been hanging out on an image board for kicks?

Has there been any chan-like "attacks" since the 2nd month?

[Anonanonanonymous]

And while i want to be polite, its not my job to educate you or anyone else, get off your ass and look into it, I did.

The protestors calling themselves "Anonymous" have been painted with lies since day one of all of this. CoS accuses them of hundreds of actions that would be considered felonies, and still not one single arrest.

All the proof of Hubbards lies and falsehoods, the CoS's involvement in criminal acts, threats and intimidation. It should be obvious which side is honest.

[quitejaded]

Uh... duh. Of course I looked into it otherwise I wouldn't have seen your video. I think its YOUR job to educate people if you're going to be bitching about being confused for a /b/tard. I did my part in researching this and these are the conclusions I drew. Anyone else wouldn't give a shit to give more than 5 minutes of research.

[Anonanonanonymous]

It's not my video, it belongs to someone else.

You did research and yet still came up with the conclusion that the protestors against CoS are 'racist" because the users of the Chans dare to tell off-color jokes and act like unsupervised children?

Did any of your "research" show a protestor doing or saying anything immoral? unethical? racist? What about all the non-white protestors at the larger raids? guilty by association?

If I was a channer, I would say LURK MOAR...

[quitejaded]

No, I didn't see any people protesting making racist comments. So? Just because people act one way online doesn't mean it is relevant to something they do in real life. But anyway... Okay, well if you are just going to reply by saying that I didn't research well enough then whatever. There is no point in continuing this convo. Bye.

[Anonanonanonymous]

Okay, that sounded unneccesarily harsh, my apologies for that.

[quitejaded]

Well, thanks. But things are still the way they are. We think anon is /b/tards and other peope who play cruel jokes on the internet. And you aren't helping me to understand who the anon is so... I don't know what you are expecting us to think.

[JADavis77]

Keep up the great work!!!!

[JillyX92]

I had no idea Addie was so fucked up lol

[11Jamie11]

Well... I know what you mean, but....

What did you expect from a dying cult? A hat in hand apology?

[AffinityKRC]

Is funny! You speak about paranoia when it is anonymous that is Super paranoid. You are the ones that wear masks! Dont you? Please dont be delusional. No public in the CoS ever talks about Anonymous. There are probably a few volunteers for OSA but other than that no one cares! So dont accuse us of what you are doing!

[CrazyDelaney]

I would direct you to the links on the side. They illustrate very well your church's obsession with its enemies. I'd also point you to the average suppressive person declare as well as David Miscavige's interview with Ted Koppel in which he accuses the FDA, the APA of conspiring against Scientology. That's not paranoia?

[AffinityKRC]

About the FDA is not paranoia, is an hystorical fact. They came to a church with guns to distruct our activities. That's a fact. I worked in OSA so I know the facts.

Scientology is here because it has fought to be here... nothing new there.

But that's the job of OSA and very few Scientologist get involved in these issues. OSA is doing its job.

I'm sorry about your hystory. I don't agree policies interpreted, with minors being in the SO. But to go against CoS. Never!

[CrazyDelaney]

Wait... why not? If you think your church is doing something wrong? Why not speak out against it? Isn't that cowardice? Umm.. did you actually listen to the things Mr. Miscavige said regarding the FDA?

[AffinityKRC]

Because the good things that CoS does overwhelms its mistakes. No one is perfect...

You know the greatest good for the greatest number of dinamics.

I'm an active Scientologists, doing everything to promote Scientology. I believe of changing things from inside not from outside. But there is not much I see that needs changing.

[bluewiggirl]

How about forcing women in the Sea Org to choose between their unborn children and their job? That'd be a good place to start I think. OOH! How about allowing deeply disturbed scientologists to take the medication they need so that they don't kill their families? I'm sure Jeremy Perkins and that girl from Australia both would have appreciated that.

Also learn to spell "Dianetics" before you go trying to defend the failed pseudo-science of mental health, k?

[AffinityKRC]

1. I see that in the military all the time. You can't go in a deployment if you pregnant. What's the difference?

2. Everyday people kill and kill themselves because they are in medication. That's a reality. I don't believe in Psych drugs. All massacres in the USA have been done by people under psych drugs.

3. I have seen Dianetics work many times. I have seen engrams run, ECT.

Don't try to argue with me about my beliefs. Waste of time.

Scientology has work fine with. I'm very happy!

[bluewiggirl]

It's supposed to be a church not an army, way to quote the CCHR party line without doing any research, and this sentence no direct object.

I don't care what you believe, that's why I don't protest freezoners.

[AffinityKRC]

Sorry!

I have done my research and my conclusions are that Psych drugs are extremely dangerous, I have friends that have died from that taking that crap.

[bluewiggirl]

And I have friends who very nearly died due to mental illness who were saved by "that crap", so anecdotally we're even!

[NearlyShaoKahn]

1. The military doesn't kick you out and subject you to go work at a JROTC school if you get pregnant.

2.  Saying "all massacres in the usa have been done by people under psych drugs" is only accurate if you have a scientific study, not more scilon propaganda from CCHR which has been called a hate group by the APA and laughed at in higher education circles.

3. (cont'd above)

[AffinityKRC]

Sorry!

Rules are rules. If you get pregnant you can tranfer to a class 4 org. The FBO and Flag Rep positions are held by SO. I know many SO that currentlyworking in class 4 orgs because they decided to start families.

Sorry! But your research is wrong!!!!

[NearlyShaoKahn]

3. You are absolutely right that you have seen Dianetics work and have seen engrams run, etc. What we are saying is the end phenomena that is supposed to happen with Dianetics does not occur, since it is pseudo-science. I have also seen demons be exorcised out of christians and they have walked again. This is pseudo-science as well. Dianetics is quack therapy, and until you study what separates science from pseudo-science, you will feel the need to say "Don't try to argue about my beliefs".

[AffinityKRC]

I still very therapeutic :-)

[NearlyShaoKahn]

And finally, the real reason LRH had to take Dianetics into the realm of "religion" is because that is the only field where he could avoid the call for evidence, since religion cannot be defined even as a social science as in the case of Psychology. However Dianetics and Scientology still attempt to solve problems that are in the fields of science and medicine. That is the fraud we speak of, and there are hundreds of cases using science that back up our claims. You just have to look.

[AffinityKRC]

Science is built on agreement. There are some very dumb agreements out there. I don't believe everything Scientists agree on. I believe Ron... not 100 % because what is true fror me is what I observe to be true. But I believe my self 100% :-)

[NearlyShaoKahn]

Get well soon.

[NearlyShaoKahn]

And okay I am probably being stupid right now in thinking you meant something else... but you are saying "Science is an agreement" because you believe if everyone disagreed that the sun rose it wouldn't rise... yes?

[AffinityKRC]

The physical universe does what it does regardless of what the Scientist think.

You can see in the history of Science that every time a revolutionary discovery has been made it has been meet with apposition from the scientific community. For example the fact that earth goes around the Sun, etcetera.

Science today is built around what Scientists agree to be true. Time will tell their observations are true or not.

[ThePeacefulAtheist]

until then, we will continue to make advances in technology, medicine, communications, terrestrial and space travel, and you'll reap the benefits and continue to slap the faces of the scientists to make their discoveries. do us all a favour and fuck off.

[CrazyDelaney]

You're obviously a bit concerned if you're bothering to watch and comment this video....

[AffinityKRC]

Yeah, I'm bored!

[TheEvilOfScientology]

"I worked in OSA so I know the facts."

If you worked in OSA, you are well aware of the endless list of lies and deceptions your criminally convicted cult is responsible for.

"All massacres in the USA have been done by people under psych drugs."

That statement above is a prime example of the horse shit your cult peddles.

[AffinityKRC]

1. Sorry, I'm not aware of any inlegal activity. The GO office closed long ago.

2. Just read the new paper. Many news channels has exposed the dangers of these drugs. The FDA has put black warning labels on them!!!

[TheEvilOfScientology]

"Sorry, I'm not aware of any inlegal activity. The GO office closed long ago."

Well it's a pity you didn't study your own criminally convicted cult as much as you appear to have done with psychiatry.

"Many news channels has exposed the dangers of these drugs. The FDA has put black warning labels on them!!!"

Feel free to prove your statement about all US massacres having been committed by people under psych drugs. You can't of course, but I'll have fun watching you try.

[AffinityKRC]

Sure!

Virginia Tech Massacre by Cho Seung-Hui

Texas Tower Massacre by Charles Joseph Whitman

Columbine Massacre by a bunch of kids all in medication

I can keep going all day but why.

I know the facts! So sorry if we disagree. :-)

[TheEvilOfScientology]

Keep going. You have about another 89 massacres to go. You did say "ALL" didn't you?

You obviously don't know all the facts because you are unable to back up your BS with actual facts.

[TheEvilOfScientology]

You obviously know next to zero about psych drugs, other than what the cult has taught you. In most cases, drugs help. Sure there are cases of over-medication, but on the whole your cult's terror stories about drugs & psychiatry are bullshit.

For example (whilst we're on the subject of massacres) Steven Kazmierczak STOPPED Taking Medication BEFORE he massacred 5 students at Northern Illinois University in 2008. Had he stayed on his medication, 5 people would most probably still be alive today.

[AffinityKRC]

Yes withdrawal symptoms are also part of the problem. Still there wouldn't be any withdrawal symptoms if they wouldn't be prescribed such drugs in the 1st place.

I already made my point it is a waste of time to continue this argument.

[TheEvilOfScientology]

"Yes withdrawal symptoms are also part of the problem."

Yes, you guys have an answer for everything don't you. Oh, except that you don't.

You didn't make your point. Your statement that "all" massacres were committed by people on drugs is in fact completely untrue. No surprise there of course because you're a Scientologist, and lying is second nature to you, much like you claim that the cult hasn't committed any crimes for instance.

[TheEvilOfScientology]

Drugs don't cause massacres, and I defy you to try and prove that they do. Just because person X who killed somebody might have been on drugs, it doesn't automatically follow that the drugs were responsible. You might as well blame that fact that these people had hair, as all of the massacres were committed by people who had hair!

[TheEvilOfScientology]

The number of people who massacre people who coincidentally happen to be on some form of psych medication is monumentally insignificant compared to the percentage of other people who are on the exact same drugs and don't massacre people. In fact, you could easily make an even stronger case to say that psych drugs prevent massacres. But that's Scientology all over isn't it? Quack cures. Lets face it, getting drug advice from Scientology doctors didn't do Jeremy Perkins' mother any good did it?

[ThePeacefulAtheist]

the majority of psych drugs do not cause dependancy.

[ThePeacefulAtheist]

death of lisa mcpherson

[ThePeacefulAtheist]

well, germany labelled scientology as dangerous

[shalindriaharam]

this is what I have been afraid of all along, and it only seems to be getting worse. If you listen to tapes of Jim Jones as People's Temple was nearing it's end, it echoes the same message.

[KidVolcano]

Good! I'll start mixing the Flavr-aid.

[RadioPaul1]

It just tells me the CO$ feels like it is loosing the war.

[openair100]

Thanks for your video. Well stated and it so reminds me of tactics being currently used by the Government in Iran and North Korea.

[elmargritzi]

More and more, you see the bigger picture

[traxdata2k]

So sad isn't it!

[TheEvilOfScientology]

"Anonymous insiders"

Code for : "We just made this shit up, 'cos we're desperate lunatics."

Maybe one day in the distant future, the criminally convicted cult might offer some proof for their accusations... if they last that long.