you don't dive into a the same corner with your rival, if you're more than half a car length behind, even more so, if you could easily get him at another part of the track. And if you do, there is something called a break pedal which comes useful at times. With his car amaged or not, Schumacher had all rights defending his line from a leading position here until the very last moment. And even considering that he knew what was going to happen, it was simply a clever move because he knew he was...
@paddy080585 ...in the rightful position to defend his line, so by no chance he could get penalized for that and the crash would always be Damon's fault, since he was not in the position to overtake in this very corner, so that he would win the championship if both contenders would retire from the race. It is of course understandable that the British would be angry as well as those who are anti-Schumacher, but you have to be objective and must not forget that other huge representers of the sport
@paddy080585 ...such as Senna chose to crash into their opponents as well and in way more obvious ways and situations and in a way more demeaning manner and they still got away with it. One mustn't apply double standards just becasue one is called Schumacher and the other Senna or Prost
IIRC, what was really galling was the sight of Schumacher sitting back in the pits with that stupid smug smile on his face, as if to say, "I thought that went rather well!"
For anyone who says schumacher deliberately hit hill should realise that if hill had half a brain he would of waited a few corners seeing as he saw schumacher run into the wall before hill caught upto him.
@SchueY03 Easy to say...These are racing car, not made to go at the pace of a turtle. Hill was not really at fault. This said, Schumacer was not at fault as well : his Beneton was hard to drive (ask Verstappen, Letho or Herbert - they all hated driving the B194) and had suspension problems. It was an avoidable race accident, and probably that the two driver will be penalize today with points...
@SchueY03 ...What a stupid statement. Of course Schumacher did it on purpose. We only needed to wait three more years to see him try that same trick again... Remember? Didn't think so. Schumacher fans have selective memories...
@WCSLeagueTV i'm a schumi fan, and i agree with you that schumacher did it on purpose (its obvious, he looks, sees hill, and turned in) but i'm convinced that many other drivers had done the same thing. In fact, Senna did the same thing in Suzuka 1990 with prost. Hill was clearly overwhelmed by the chance because if he thought a little he would have waited intil a couple of corners later, after al schumi couldn't finish anymore with his broken car.
of course schumacher cut hill up deliberatly. yes any top hungry racing driver would have done the same thing, yes hill put himself in that situation. no there wasnt anything the stewards could really do about it
starlionblue, your point is pointless. one error doesn't justify the other. By the way, you forgot to mention prost taking out senna in japan in the previous year to that one you refered to..i'm sure it was unintentional heh...
how many times did hill have schumacher off in an event? silverstone...monza....adelaide...i mean the guy is a menace and he drove over his head. all the time. damon hill was NEVER the equal of schumacher and he had better equiptment! shit.....villeneuve nearly clipped him for the title in his rookie season. pffffft!!
yeah hill was only that colse cus they decided to help hill with bullshit punishment for schuey just cus hills a crap brit who didn't know how to pass
He may have the record number of wins and world titles, but in my books Schumacher will always be a cold hearted, emotionless, cheating, win-at-all-costs, son-of-a-NAZI scumbag. Hey but that's just me.
@jeanclaude780 What about Hill being the 2nd driver behind Senna in the first 3 races and then loosing a team mate on a dramatic way? That must have been a blow for the team.. Its actualy amazing that the came so far. It would have been a great tribute to Senna if they would have taken the title that year. I will never have any respect for schumie after all he has done. And these 7 titles are good. But also a lot of cheating and luck to be at the right place at the right time..
@dipstick3031 Luck ? lool what title Schumi won with luck ? Schumacher completely deserved this 1994 title. Hill made a good season but finally, Schumacher won after missing 2 races.
As i said, that was a very bad move from Schumacher on Hill in the last race but anyway, he deserved to win.
Stop saying Schumacher cheats everytime and everywhere. He is just one of the greatest because the greatest pilot of all time doesn't exist and he will never exist.
@dipstick3031 right place at the right time.. no. What about all the titles he "won fairly" 2000,2001,2002,2003 and 2004? the other two were possibly controversial but he well deserved every one of them.
@imnotftw18 Specialy those years he was at the right place at the right time. Never has any team built his car so much around one driver as ferrari did in those days.
@jeanclaude780 Did they forgot to tell you that Beneton and Briatore was also cheating with the car that year?? But hey.. Lets forget about it. If I look at schumies return and all the stupid things he has done in his career by now...I almost have to feel sorry for him and his fans.. But only almost..
@dipstick3031 How can you know they were cheating ? it is like Red Bull today... moreover, the williams car was better ;)
LOL Did you think Schumi could win every races with the car he had in 2010 ? so funny... of course he made a bad season but your hero is Senna, just remind you Suzuka 1990... Senna colided Prost to win the title. There were more risks that the collision between Schumi and Villeneuve or Schumi and Hill.
So Senna a hero ? no... Schumi a hero ? no. They are just great pilots.
@jeanclaude780 actually senna was only repaying the favour. In 1989 Prost did exactly the same thing to senna on the last lap and won the title senna did it the next year only because {rost did it to him first. Really senna was just settling the score.
@jeanclaude780 If u see 89, the way Prost turns in so early he wud not make the corner. Senna explained in 91 why he did that in 90. Senna said himself it was an awful way to end the championship. Schumacher cheated all through his own career
@racemise 94 traction control, fuel dispenser which gave them 3 seconds per pitstop, 94 British GP overtaking Hill on warm up lap twice didn't serve penalty, Adelaide 94, 97 Jerez, 98 British GP pitstop penalty, 98 Canada forced Frentzen off the track, Austria 02 overtaking Barrichello, 04 Monaco braking hard in the tunnel,06 tyres when Alonso was winning the championship, 06 Monaco shenanigans, 10 Hungary Barrichello
@gerryff Yeah, sure you have seen these... What about the other 'more-than-280' races?... However a lot of them are just made-out things (except collisions)...
@racemise u asked if I saw more than 2 races in his career. I gave u about 8 or 9 incidents which he was involved in. How r facs just made out things?
@racemise he was a great driver but u can't defend the amount the cheating he did during his career. Nurburgring 95, Spa 95, Spain 96 were unbelievable drives but the cheating was always there.
@kallo182 If u read it SLOWLY, I said incidents not push outs where Schumacher was involved. U shud get a job for the tabloids. Ur making a paragraph out of something I didn't say. Senna was dirty but Schumacher took it to another level. The 9 incidents were mentioned above.
@kallo182 94 traction control, fuel dispenser which gave them 3 seconds per pitstop, 94 British GP overtaking Hill on warm up lap twice didn't serve penalty, Adelaide 94, 97 Jerez, 98 British GP pitstop penalty, 98 Canada forced Frentzen off the track, Austria 02 overtaking Barrichello, 04 Monaco braking hard in the tunnel,06 tyres when Alonso was winning the championship, 06 Monaco shenanigans, 10 Hungary Barrichello
Schumi did the right thing. He took out Hill and won the championship. Good call. You haters haha I'm sure Schumi sleeps very well at night with his '94 in his cabinet!
Schumacher did it on purpose. But who cares? Schumacher deserved it over Hill that season, was miles ahead. Greats like Senna and Prost would've done the same.
I am no fan of Schumacher, but I truely believe he didn't do it on purpose. H emade a mistake and came back defending his line. Hill dived through too early. It's neithers fault, both reacting on instinct.
People brand Schumi scum for taking hill out, but will happily turn a blind eye to Senna's misdemenours, favouring to romanticise his 'greatness' because he's dead. Senna WAS a genius, a breathtaking and passionate driver. But he was also an on track bully, and also deliberatly rammed a rival.
@phantomphreaq Agree about the Schumi part, but can't comment on Senna as he died too soon for me to get to know him as a driver :( Still, spot on regarding the Schumi thing!
@phantomphreaq YES! Finally someone who understands that senna was no saint. You just said the exact same thing i was always thinking. Thank you very much for showing me im not the only one that thinks this.
@phantomphreaq :yeahh, i´m so tired to hear and read, that senna was "Jesus" and a.e. Schumacher was the devil! It speaks itselfs, that such peoples don´t have a clue of racing! Senna was a hardcore driver too and he made very dangerous moves too, but i believe Schumacher is German and that is i guess a piece of this puzzle and he is alive.
@phantomphreaq tit for tat, Prost DELIBERATELY turned into Senna in 89 and, with the compliance of the FIA, stole the 89 title. Scumacher on the other hand, did it a hell of a lot more than just once, which is why he was disqualified in 97. If it had only happened once then it may be deemed an accident, but he did it almost everytime he was in the same situation. Schumacher was a cheat, and a chicken, he vetoed having hak as tM in 99, and retired spitting his dummy when they hired Kimi. bottler.
@phantomphreaq ALL the 'greats' were cheats. Shumacher, Prost, Senna all took out opponents to win the championship because they knew they were going to lose it. For this reason I cant see them as greats. Mansell on the other hand, was.
Infact, I just watched it again, Schumacher had already crashed, Hill tries to get past, Schumacher deliberately takes him out. Its plain as day. Schu has hit the barrier and broken his car, Hill tries to pass on the left then goes up the inside and Schu shuts the door. They should've docked him points to make Hill champion. Its a total disgrace.
I like Schumacher and Hill-both are bad drivers though. Hill at spa 98-if ralf tries to overtake,i'll get him off- and schumacher on numerous occasions-94,australia is one of the most memorable- but both drivers are extremely good. Senna was also the same-his war against Prost went to cheating.
Benetton in 1994 were inexperienced to properly handle life at the top. They were reasonably punished for their illegalities and they proved in 1995 (with more powerful Renault engines) how superior they were without cheating.
Partly Hill's fault, there was no way he would have been able to corner at normal speed, but still mostly Schumacher's. It was inexperience this time, but he did like how it turned out. Same people who call him a cheat praise Senna and Hamilton for doing much the same.
@starlionblue Prost took Senna out in 89 to win championship. Senna repaid the favour 1990. You obviously forgot. Remind me how Senna took Mansell out in Adelaide cos i forgot
Hills fault completely...... right one of the stupidest comments I've ever read anywhere on any post on you tube EVER! Anyone that thinks that incident was anything other than simply a manifestation of Schumachers desire to win any which way legal or not shouldnt be ALLOWED to watch F1 because you are too stupid. Sure Hill wouldnt have been close if Schumacher and Benneton between them hadn't cheated consistently! Sad thing is Schumacher was sooo much better than Hill it was unneccesary..
Who cares about what happened, its the past. You can go over it over and over again. The fact is Schumacher won the title and Hill didnt . get over it im sick of hearing about it
I was at the time a huge hill fan and a hater of schumacher. now with the wisdom 15 extra years has granted me, I believe that schumacher was the best driver of the year and if that counts for anything he deserved to win the championship, lets remember that this is not the only controversial race in f1 history. Mr Senna participated in a few shameful events himself.
There's no doubing Schumacher's talent, and he has to go down as one of the greatest drivers ever seen, but I disagree about your one point: Hill deserved to win the championship in '94, I remember he was the better driver for that particular year, he was basically nearing the peak of his ability, he was faster then Schumacher in this race and had it not been for a bit of what could be considered ''cheating' by Schumi, he'd have passed him and won the race and championship.
@kileenjj well said. shui is the greatest, he made mistakes like all others and as u said senna was involved in 2 championshipswhere he one on the decider race he mysteriously smashed ito his opponent. thts cheating to me. but ppl need to get over it!!!
I agree, Hill didnt desrve to win because the FIA crucified Shumacher earlier in the year by banning him from 3 races, however...Schumacher drove a pretty dirty race in Adelaide.
the most annoying thing about that incident is that Hill didn't see Schumacher hit the barrier before he tried to pass. If he *had* seen, he would have probably realised that Schu was going to have to retire anyway, and he would have just waited.
Of course, none of that changes the fact that Schumacher is cheating scum who deliberately took Hill off, rather than concede defeat.
@OreillyORLY Excellent response. Intelligent, mature, clearly reasoned and well thought out. Extra points for the lazy cultural stereotype. Replying to a year-old comment has clearly taken it's toll on your mental capacity. Take the rest of the day off.
Then how come he isn't winning NOW?? DId his wet weather skill just disappear? He has raced in some wet races in 2010 and 2011, and that should have "leveled" the field.
FYI Nigel Mansell won a race in 1994 aged 42. Jack Brabham was almost champion in 1970 aged 44. Juan-Manuel Fangio took his 5'th and last title aged 46. Mario Andretti won an IndyCar race in 1993 aged 53 at a time CART was fiercily competitive and faster than F1.
@McLarenMercedes hmm I don't know if you saw Canada 2011 but schumi came pretty close to a podium finish. If it wasn't for the double DRS zone he could have made 3rd.
@dojOdRiFTeR Well you sure showed me. When faced with an enormous intellect for whom grammar, spelling and reading comprehension are such trifling details (not to mention an inability to disengage the caps-lock) I unreservedly withdraw my argument and humbly submit to your rapier-like insight.
i can't believe there are some people that still claim this was a racing incident. look at what happen.
-schumi was getting chased down by hill, and made an error.
-hill saw the opportunity and went for a move he had enough room for
-schumi purposely crashes into damon so hill gets the suspension failure and has to retire.
if you want anymore proof, he tried the same thing with villeneuve, but jacques plodded on and probs could've won the race anyway, whereas schumi was in a ditch.
I agree with all of this except the part about Hill chasing Schumacher down. The gap etween the 2 drivers was widening very very slightly each lap, but Schumacher was pushed into an error.
@ShaunDobbie1andonly Yes, and after commentator Martin Brundle says something like, "sorry my friend, it didn't work this time," that was the reason why Michael never gave him an interview on the grid before the race for the rest of his career...
I have to say that nobody is perfect ! Maybe Schumi did it in purpose, maybe not... In fact, i think its not ok that barry gets so pissed off on that broadcast... Thats a Race, you drive there with a the maximum speed ! You cannot be a machine ! That are humans ! I think you´re absolutly right Trondyard...and by the way, R.I.P Senna, we will always love you...
hehe Murray is a legend, he didnt try to change the subject, he changed it. I aint watched f1 or anything since he retired it just isnt the same. Barry who?
well said. im a fan of senna myself, but a lot of people seem to forget he had some shady tactics as well over the years. i guess thats one of the bonuses of dying before your time, people forget your less popular moments
He doesn't actually say he's angry. Just calls it a "disaster". Hamilton's electrical glitch in Brazil 2007 was a "disaster" for him and the team, but nobody ever said they were angry about it.
He was actually fuming but he has several times expressed his thankfulness to Barry Sheene. Sheene left the commentary booth and ran all the way down the the pits to intercept Hill before he was interviewed. He said "Damon, for goodness sake, DON'T say anything. I don't know why he saw it that way but perhaps he and Sheene thought the footage told the story on its own. It certainly does for anyone who's even half knowledgeable about racing. Hill was certainly livid after the event though.
Schumacher is a cheating maggot and regardless of how many titles and races he won, he will NEVER be one of the true greats, because he was a cheat. F1 Racing did a piece a few years ago listing all his cheating. Like abandoning his car on the racing line in an attempt to get a red flag, taking Damon out, trying the same on Jacques (for which the FIA booted him from the championship), parking at Monaco (for which he was also punished). The guy is an utter wanker.
Yes, his career is tarnished by his behavior. Anyone who knows racing knows the Hill crash was no accident. It is one of the most blatant, shameful cases of cheating and bad sportsmanship I know. Crazy how blind some of his supporters are. Youngsters these days don't generally have real understanding of racing but only the completely deluded or ridiculously biased could believe it wasn't deliberate. MS DID admit it in an interview anyway (with a grin on his smarmy face)
He also tried the same trick with Jaques in 1997 but it backfired and he took himself out handing the championship to Jacques. Jaques called him for the cheat he was & referred to the Hill situation, marking the encounter as a carbon copy. He regarded him as a cheat & a man of poor character. ( which of course was an accurate assessment ) His fans still rattle on about him being the "best ever" without any idea of what they are talking about. His record doesn't come near to Clark or Senna.
You're right, his record doesn't come near Clark or Senna. He is beyond them. 91 wins, 7 world championships, 250 races, etc. I like how you say his career is tarnished by his behavior, Senna wasn't exactly the cleanest driver and did PLENTY of questionable things, but because he died I guess that makes everything ok?
You young guys really need to learn how to propeerly evaluate their respective performances. Do you even try to comprehend when folk try and explain it to you ?
I notice this idiot's account is closed. There's no educating mugs like this anyway so I don't know why I bother. He either doesn't even read or can't comprehend the posts he replies to anyway.
He raced brit touring cars for a while and did quite a lot of truck racing. he was originally going to move to F1 but George Harrison talked him out of it. They were very close mates - built their houses next to each other in Australia and both sadly died within quite a short space of time.
He should have been as far as I am cocerned. Crash is on youtube and people can make up their own mind. Anyone can see what he did. His turning into Hill can clearly be seen to be nothing to do with any natural turn into the corner. Barry Sheene actually left the commentary booth and raced down to Hill to implore him NOT to say anything. Hill several times has said he was so glad Barry had done that. He was obviously fuming and ready to vent. Watch the crash - then come back with your view!
Well he did. It must have been at least 5 or 6 years ago & it was reported & discussed at the time. In any case an admission was not required. Anyone who knows racing & saw it knew who was to blame. Hill was inside him with a clear claim to the corner. A nose ahead DOESN'T mean you own the corner in any case - he was not "ahead" - he was being passed. MS then made a completely unnatural move and accutely turned his car into Hill. Unmistakable. I'm only a fan of fairness and I'm not English.
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Schumacher had a nose ahead in this situation. He had every right to the corner. If anything it was Damon's fault, but I see it as a racing incident. I never understood why people cried so much about this. Mostly the British fans though.
Nonsense - What are you talking about ? Shuey admitted a few years later that he took Hill out deliberately. He stole the championship and he admitted it. How blind can you be ? lmao
I never heard where Schumi admitted to anything pertaining to this incident. I remember Senna admitting fault for he and Prost's crash in 1990 in Japan, but never have I heard Schumi claiming he did this purposely. Point me to the video please. Provide some proof please. I'm a lifelong Macca fan so I have no bias for Michael, but as I said it was mostly the British fans and the biased British press crying over this.
What ? - It's a matter of record. It was after a title winning race many years later - probably post 2000. It 's no secret - he was asked about it for the umpteenth time in an interviewer and broke into a silly smile. He first said well, I wasn't going to let him past" I can't remember the detail but many are aware of it because it was announced during an f1 telecast. It was no doubt an admission of guilt. Max Mosely commented that he should probably have his championship cancelled.
You cant ram into another car when they have the inside line.
Going by you're thinking, I can smash into anyone I want, as long as I have some part of my car infront of them at the points of impact. Absolutly rubbish.
You cannot try to create an accident, and you cannot cause an accident. Two things Schumi did in this video. Schui knew he couldn't get past Hill, he didn't have enough courage and heart to even try.
Hmm, sorry, but what "Eatgrunts" says is absolutely right. In the moment Hill and Schumacher crashed, Michael was in front. FACT! Some say, Damon just had to be a littlebit cooler and better tried to overtake Michael some corners later. The race was still long and Michaels car damaged. There was no reason for Schumacher not to close the door and no need for Hill to go that agressive into the inside line. Resume: It has been a normal race accident. And Hill lost.
schumacher just hit a fucking wall, yes he was in front but he fucked his car no way he was gonna have the pace to stay in front of hill, he knew this and blocked the racing line for hill, hence the crash happened, hence schumi is a cheat on this occasion, all the other occasions we can talk about later
Shoey made an error, therefor was going to be overtaken. When Hill went for the inside line (Which is a text book overtaking manouver) Shoey squeezed him into the wall.
He had so much of the track to use on the outside, instead he waited for Hill to get along side, then smashed into him.
I honestly do not know how it can be justified. Especially after 1997 in Jerez when he tied the same thing to Villeneuve!
That crash is obvious. Yes, Damon maybe shouldn't have gone for it, but really try to make that decision in a split second. You see car in front of you losing it and you'll see an opportunity.
Any of what you wwrote doesn't justify deliberately crashing your rival out.
Fully correctly you wrote that Damon just had a split second to make that decision. But Schumacher've had exactly the same time, he was in front, he closed the door and they crashed. That's the story, and for me it's a race accident like many before and many after, but this one decided the championship. Maybe that's the difference. And I think it would've been a joke if Damon would have become WC1994. Micheal deserved that title much more. Sad we didn't see the duel with Ayrton Senna. R.I.P.
Watch closely and you see him looking at the both mirros knowing exactly where Hill was. He rammed him on purpose. No matter how deserving he was that year you should never win a title like that.
The same could be told about Senna or Prost. Just think of Suzuka '89 and '90. These guys are the greatest champions and they have such a big desire to win. I'm not a special fan of Schumacher, I'm a neutral Formula One-Fan and I am happy with the history. Just think about Damon passing Schumacher and becoming WC1994... what a joke... =)
@Playtechy Except that Schumi was in the lead when he had the of, and came out ahead of Hill. And Hill stated that he tried to pass where there was no room.
I don't think it was a planned manouvre from Shcumis side, just unlucky that he didn't close the gap in time, and a great deal of stress that he was losing his lead
Compare to Jerez 1997 och La Rascasse 2006, there's your planned manouvres that stink.
@Playtechy I can see Vettel becoming a Schumacher. Ok im a mclaren fan, but at no time has Vettel pulled off a successful overtake this season against his rivals, mainly because he couldn't and he's not capable to. He won the title because he had clearly t
you don't dive into a the same corner with your rival, if you're more than half a car length behind, even more so, if you could easily get him at another part of the track. And if you do, there is something called a break pedal which comes useful at times. With his car amaged or not, Schumacher had all rights defending his line from a leading position here until the very last moment. And even considering that he knew what was going to happen, it was simply a clever move because he knew he was...
paddy080585 2 weeks ago
@paddy080585 ...in the rightful position to defend his line, so by no chance he could get penalized for that and the crash would always be Damon's fault, since he was not in the position to overtake in this very corner, so that he would win the championship if both contenders would retire from the race. It is of course understandable that the British would be angry as well as those who are anti-Schumacher, but you have to be objective and must not forget that other huge representers of the sport
paddy080585 2 weeks ago
@paddy080585 ...such as Senna chose to crash into their opponents as well and in way more obvious ways and situations and in a way more demeaning manner and they still got away with it. One mustn't apply double standards just becasue one is called Schumacher and the other Senna or Prost
paddy080585 2 weeks ago
Cheater Schu should NEVER be forgiven for that and he should never let it be forgotten.
He was a dirty cheat throughout his career, nobody like him, he didn't deserve to win the way he did and he made the sport very boring.
250Trojan 3 weeks ago
SHEENE WINNING!!!
TittyTittyBangBangXX 2 months ago
IIRC, what was really galling was the sight of Schumacher sitting back in the pits with that stupid smug smile on his face, as if to say, "I thought that went rather well!"
JBofBrisbane 2 months ago
For anyone who says schumacher deliberately hit hill should realise that if hill had half a brain he would of waited a few corners seeing as he saw schumacher run into the wall before hill caught upto him.
SchueY03 2 months ago
@SchueY03 Easy to say...These are racing car, not made to go at the pace of a turtle. Hill was not really at fault. This said, Schumacer was not at fault as well : his Beneton was hard to drive (ask Verstappen, Letho or Herbert - they all hated driving the B194) and had suspension problems. It was an avoidable race accident, and probably that the two driver will be penalize today with points...
therrydicule 2 months ago
@SchueY03 ...What a stupid statement. Of course Schumacher did it on purpose. We only needed to wait three more years to see him try that same trick again... Remember? Didn't think so. Schumacher fans have selective memories...
WCSLeagueTV 1 month ago 2
@WCSLeagueTV i'm a schumi fan, and i agree with you that schumacher did it on purpose (its obvious, he looks, sees hill, and turned in) but i'm convinced that many other drivers had done the same thing. In fact, Senna did the same thing in Suzuka 1990 with prost. Hill was clearly overwhelmed by the chance because if he thought a little he would have waited intil a couple of corners later, after al schumi couldn't finish anymore with his broken car.
lambosforusal 1 month ago
@lambosforusal I think the only reason Senna did it in 1990 was payback for Prost doing it to him in 1989 then getting him disqualified
MrTrophyNuts 3 weeks ago
sorry am i losing it or is the title and description wrong ?
mrlordsnooty 3 months ago
of course schumacher cut hill up deliberatly. yes any top hungry racing driver would have done the same thing, yes hill put himself in that situation. no there wasnt anything the stewards could really do about it
RogerHerhard 3 months ago
@RogerHerhard They did when he tried to take out Jaques in 1997
xRapidClaWx 3 months ago
This is Mika, he is struggling too much in that McLaren. I remember those times in my mid 20's like it was yesterday. Mika for ever.
fastcougar3200 3 months ago
starlionblue, your point is pointless. one error doesn't justify the other. By the way, you forgot to mention prost taking out senna in japan in the previous year to that one you refered to..i'm sure it was unintentional heh...
wandererslegion 3 months ago
@wandererslegion I was about to post exactly the same thing.
cplsyx 3 months ago
how many times did hill have schumacher off in an event? silverstone...monza....adelaide...i mean the guy is a menace and he drove over his head. all the time. damon hill was NEVER the equal of schumacher and he had better equiptment! shit.....villeneuve nearly clipped him for the title in his rookie season. pffffft!!
penske13 4 months ago
Shoemaker the greatest cheat ever !
23deniro23 4 months ago
Michael Schumacher THE GREATEST CHEAT EVER!
23deniro23 5 months ago
Typical Murray Walker, spent his entire career sitting on the soddin fence!!!!!
odsall 5 months ago
ahhh fuck him hes dead the cunt
bnz500 5 months ago
it was Michaels Corner. He was in front. It was no purpose. It was racing. 1997 was purpose.
olske1981 5 months ago
Schumacher the master in autocrash!
Ups, he fail so badly in 1997 trying to hit Villeneuve...well...
pedromcansado 5 months ago
who is Barry Sheene ????????????
xeenoon 6 months ago
@xeenoon An ex motorbike racer who liked to start his day with a pack of fags and sex
thrillathakilla 6 months ago
@thrillathakilla okaaay ;) thanks
xeenoon 5 months ago
yeah hill was only that colse cus they decided to help hill with bullshit punishment for schuey just cus hills a crap brit who didn't know how to pass
AdamKhanRs5 6 months ago
Schumacher.... dirty sausage munching cheating scum bag
sparkidee 6 months ago
If you listen carefully, you can almost hear the commentators over the buzzing.
bryonlape 7 months ago
THis is what separates the champions from the all time greats. If you are not prepared to do anything to win forget it.
philateliceun 7 months ago
Schumacher, biggest cheater ever. Should have been banned for life for this.
rcF1racer 7 months ago
@rcF1racer Spot on ;)
Dukey39 6 months ago
He may have the record number of wins and world titles, but in my books Schumacher will always be a cold hearted, emotionless, cheating, win-at-all-costs, son-of-a-NAZI scumbag. Hey but that's just me.
CBR11X 7 months ago
@CBR11X Nazi? A bit of a stereotype, wouldn't you say?
PeterMayer 6 months ago
@PeterMayer Yes I would agree, I was a bit pissed off that day. I don't like him even though he's gotall the accolades.
CBR11X 6 months ago
Of course Schumi made a bad move on Hill.
But anyway, Schumacher clearly deserved to win the 1994 title. He missed 2 races and that was completely unfair.
jeanclaude780 7 months ago
@jeanclaude780 What about Hill being the 2nd driver behind Senna in the first 3 races and then loosing a team mate on a dramatic way? That must have been a blow for the team.. Its actualy amazing that the came so far. It would have been a great tribute to Senna if they would have taken the title that year. I will never have any respect for schumie after all he has done. And these 7 titles are good. But also a lot of cheating and luck to be at the right place at the right time..
dipstick3031 7 months ago
@dipstick3031 Luck ? lool what title Schumi won with luck ? Schumacher completely deserved this 1994 title. Hill made a good season but finally, Schumacher won after missing 2 races.
As i said, that was a very bad move from Schumacher on Hill in the last race but anyway, he deserved to win.
Stop saying Schumacher cheats everytime and everywhere. He is just one of the greatest because the greatest pilot of all time doesn't exist and he will never exist.
jeanclaude780 7 months ago
@dipstick3031 right place at the right time.. no. What about all the titles he "won fairly" 2000,2001,2002,2003 and 2004? the other two were possibly controversial but he well deserved every one of them.
imnotftw18 6 months ago
@imnotftw18 Specialy those years he was at the right place at the right time. Never has any team built his car so much around one driver as ferrari did in those days.
dipstick3031 6 months ago
@jeanclaude780 Did they forgot to tell you that Beneton and Briatore was also cheating with the car that year?? But hey.. Lets forget about it. If I look at schumies return and all the stupid things he has done in his career by now...I almost have to feel sorry for him and his fans.. But only almost..
dipstick3031 7 months ago
@dipstick3031 How can you know they were cheating ? it is like Red Bull today... moreover, the williams car was better ;)
LOL Did you think Schumi could win every races with the car he had in 2010 ? so funny... of course he made a bad season but your hero is Senna, just remind you Suzuka 1990... Senna colided Prost to win the title. There were more risks that the collision between Schumi and Villeneuve or Schumi and Hill.
So Senna a hero ? no... Schumi a hero ? no. They are just great pilots.
jeanclaude780 7 months ago
@jeanclaude780 actually senna was only repaying the favour. In 1989 Prost did exactly the same thing to senna on the last lap and won the title senna did it the next year only because {rost did it to him first. Really senna was just settling the score.
imnotftw18 6 months ago
@imnotftw18 I think there is a big difference between 1989 and 1990.... Senna was flat out against Prost in 1990 and he wanted to crash Prost.
In 1989, Prost closed the door in the corner as every driver do... Senna was too far to overtake Prost.
jeanclaude780 6 months ago
@jeanclaude780 If u see 89, the way Prost turns in so early he wud not make the corner. Senna explained in 91 why he did that in 90. Senna said himself it was an awful way to end the championship. Schumacher cheated all through his own career
gerryff 6 months ago
@gerryff pfffff..... how can you say Schumacher cheated all through his own career ? give me examples... except in 1997.
Even if Prost turned not so early, Senna couldn't overtake because he was so far from Prost.
jeanclaude780 6 months ago
@gerryff All through his carreer? I am wondering if you have seen only 2 races from 1991 to 2006...
racemise 6 months ago
@racemise 94 traction control, fuel dispenser which gave them 3 seconds per pitstop, 94 British GP overtaking Hill on warm up lap twice didn't serve penalty, Adelaide 94, 97 Jerez, 98 British GP pitstop penalty, 98 Canada forced Frentzen off the track, Austria 02 overtaking Barrichello, 04 Monaco braking hard in the tunnel,06 tyres when Alonso was winning the championship, 06 Monaco shenanigans, 10 Hungary Barrichello
gerryff 6 months ago
@gerryff Yeah, sure you have seen these... What about the other 'more-than-280' races?... However a lot of them are just made-out things (except collisions)...
racemise 6 months ago
@racemise u asked if I saw more than 2 races in his career. I gave u about 8 or 9 incidents which he was involved in. How r facs just made out things?
gerryff 6 months ago
@gerryff I asked what about the other more than 280 races...
racemise 6 months ago
@racemise he was a great driver but u can't defend the amount the cheating he did during his career. Nurburgring 95, Spa 95, Spain 96 were unbelievable drives but the cheating was always there.
gerryff 5 months ago
@gerryff
Whaaat ???
You got 8 or 9 Incidents where Schumacher Push other Cars out ???
So now im Interessing, tell me ""The 8-9 Cheating Push Outs""
Because i only know Yerez 1997 and Monaco 2006, this was the only you can say ""Cheating trys""
But Senna also did things like that.
But Anyway, please tell me now ""The 8-9 Cheating-Push-Outs""
kallo182 5 months ago
@kallo182 If u read it SLOWLY, I said incidents not push outs where Schumacher was involved. U shud get a job for the tabloids. Ur making a paragraph out of something I didn't say. Senna was dirty but Schumacher took it to another level. The 9 incidents were mentioned above.
gerryff 5 months ago
@gerryff
Okay, lets get on...
Tell me ""The 9 Incidents""
kallo182 5 months ago
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@kallo182 94 traction control, fuel dispenser which gave them 3 seconds per pitstop, 94 British GP overtaking Hill on warm up lap twice didn't serve penalty, Adelaide 94, 97 Jerez, 98 British GP pitstop penalty, 98 Canada forced Frentzen off the track, Austria 02 overtaking Barrichello, 04 Monaco braking hard in the tunnel,06 tyres when Alonso was winning the championship, 06 Monaco shenanigans, 10 Hungary Barrichello
gerryff 5 months ago
who is sick of big as comments CUZ I AM
jackdal39 8 months ago
the fucking FIA tried to rob Schumacher and they punished him when they should have punished the team(see Spa, for example)
so that's what they get, MSC was the only one who deserved that title, he was too fast for everyone else, even for that cocky bitch Senna.
OreillyORLY 8 months ago
Schumi did the right thing. He took out Hill and won the championship. Good call. You haters haha I'm sure Schumi sleeps very well at night with his '94 in his cabinet!
tubehows4life 8 months ago
Murray Walker, the eternal Schumacher fan
Jbirtwisle 9 months ago
Schumacher did it on purpose. But who cares? Schumacher deserved it over Hill that season, was miles ahead. Greats like Senna and Prost would've done the same.
CaboArmorKing 10 months ago 2
I am no fan of Schumacher, but I truely believe he didn't do it on purpose. H emade a mistake and came back defending his line. Hill dived through too early. It's neithers fault, both reacting on instinct.
People brand Schumi scum for taking hill out, but will happily turn a blind eye to Senna's misdemenours, favouring to romanticise his 'greatness' because he's dead. Senna WAS a genius, a breathtaking and passionate driver. But he was also an on track bully, and also deliberatly rammed a rival.
phantomphreaq 10 months ago 34
@phantomphreaq yeah,same here...
maskmanyeah 10 months ago
@phantomphreaq Agree about the Schumi part, but can't comment on Senna as he died too soon for me to get to know him as a driver :( Still, spot on regarding the Schumi thing!
IanTheSecondComing 10 months ago
@phantomphreaq YES! Finally someone who understands that senna was no saint. You just said the exact same thing i was always thinking. Thank you very much for showing me im not the only one that thinks this.
Tommovdv 9 months ago 2
@phantomphreaq not to mention punching one!!!
spud072 8 months ago
@spud072 Yeah well Schumi came perilously close to doing that to Coulthard during the '98 Belgian GP.
phantomphreaq 8 months ago
@phantomphreaq Yeah and that's why he did it many times to other people too Pfffffffffttt.
MagicAyrtonforever 6 months ago
@phantomphreaq Meh, most drivers rammed someone sometime
NOXXism 4 months ago
@phantomphreaq lol cos Schumacher hasnt got a history of being a hard arse on the track....
yepyepyep0099 4 months ago
@phantomphreaq That is beautifully put.
JRRacing85 4 months ago
@phantomphreaq :yeahh, i´m so tired to hear and read, that senna was "Jesus" and a.e. Schumacher was the devil! It speaks itselfs, that such peoples don´t have a clue of racing! Senna was a hardcore driver too and he made very dangerous moves too, but i believe Schumacher is German and that is i guess a piece of this puzzle and he is alive.
samothsamothsamoth 3 months ago
@phantomphreaq "and came back defending his line" yeah, right through Damon who was minding his own business, what a TOOL!
MagicAyrtonforever 3 months ago
@phantomphreaq tit for tat, Prost DELIBERATELY turned into Senna in 89 and, with the compliance of the FIA, stole the 89 title. Scumacher on the other hand, did it a hell of a lot more than just once, which is why he was disqualified in 97. If it had only happened once then it may be deemed an accident, but he did it almost everytime he was in the same situation. Schumacher was a cheat, and a chicken, he vetoed having hak as tM in 99, and retired spitting his dummy when they hired Kimi. bottler.
M1ggins 3 months ago
@phantomphreaq ALL the 'greats' were cheats. Shumacher, Prost, Senna all took out opponents to win the championship because they knew they were going to lose it. For this reason I cant see them as greats. Mansell on the other hand, was.
GTAjedi 2 months ago
@GTAjedi
Infact, I just watched it again, Schumacher had already crashed, Hill tries to get past, Schumacher deliberately takes him out. Its plain as day. Schu has hit the barrier and broken his car, Hill tries to pass on the left then goes up the inside and Schu shuts the door. They should've docked him points to make Hill champion. Its a total disgrace.
GTAjedi 2 months ago
Shui was looking in his mirrors to make sure he went into Hill. F1 did nothing and has continued to be something of a boring joke ever since.
It's an amazing engineering exercise only The drivers are interchangeable. Best car wins.
Bike racing is where the men racing have the biggest influence Not the engineers
clackarelli 10 months ago
Off all the hunderets of races Schumacher had only 3 incedents that count as unfair.
If u look at Spa 95, us see why he still is world's best racedriver alive. (and probably all time)
DailyTerror666 1 year ago
I like Schumacher and Hill-both are bad drivers though. Hill at spa 98-if ralf tries to overtake,i'll get him off- and schumacher on numerous occasions-94,australia is one of the most memorable- but both drivers are extremely good. Senna was also the same-his war against Prost went to cheating.
MegaSparky555 1 year ago
Benetton in 1994 were inexperienced to properly handle life at the top. They were reasonably punished for their illegalities and they proved in 1995 (with more powerful Renault engines) how superior they were without cheating.
Partly Hill's fault, there was no way he would have been able to corner at normal speed, but still mostly Schumacher's. It was inexperience this time, but he did like how it turned out. Same people who call him a cheat praise Senna and Hamilton for doing much the same.
stevehill4 1 year ago 4
For real Schumacher has only 4 world-titles, all others he has cheated together!!!
jdilonamax 1 year ago
'schumy' is a money hungering cheat
Sem5626 1 year ago
Did this ignoramus forget Senna taking out Prost in Japan or Mansell in Adelaide? Yep.
starlionblue 1 year ago 8
@starlionblue Prost took Senna out in 89 to win championship. Senna repaid the favour 1990. You obviously forgot. Remind me how Senna took Mansell out in Adelaide cos i forgot
1greenMitsi 4 months ago
Leave it to Murrey to flip the subject. I have never heard Murrey pass judgement on any driver during a race. He has always been a fair guy.
6V92TA 1 year ago
Hills fault completely...... right one of the stupidest comments I've ever read anywhere on any post on you tube EVER! Anyone that thinks that incident was anything other than simply a manifestation of Schumachers desire to win any which way legal or not shouldnt be ALLOWED to watch F1 because you are too stupid. Sure Hill wouldnt have been close if Schumacher and Benneton between them hadn't cheated consistently! Sad thing is Schumacher was sooo much better than Hill it was unneccesary..
owsythe1st 1 year ago
mate.. you gotta be the most chilled out guy ever..
JonnyHeather123 1 year ago
shit
mrwjt100 1 year ago
the world misses Barry Sheene
AtTheDriveBy 1 year ago
Who cares about what happened, its the past. You can go over it over and over again. The fact is Schumacher won the title and Hill didnt . get over it im sick of hearing about it
Senna whould have been champ if he lived on
41senna65 1 year ago
I was at the time a huge hill fan and a hater of schumacher. now with the wisdom 15 extra years has granted me, I believe that schumacher was the best driver of the year and if that counts for anything he deserved to win the championship, lets remember that this is not the only controversial race in f1 history. Mr Senna participated in a few shameful events himself.
kileenjj 1 year ago 5
Well said!
Trondyard 1 year ago 6
There's no doubing Schumacher's talent, and he has to go down as one of the greatest drivers ever seen, but I disagree about your one point: Hill deserved to win the championship in '94, I remember he was the better driver for that particular year, he was basically nearing the peak of his ability, he was faster then Schumacher in this race and had it not been for a bit of what could be considered ''cheating' by Schumi, he'd have passed him and won the race and championship.
JackRabbitSlim 1 year ago 5
@JackRabbitSlim Hill wouldn't have been 1 point behind Schumacher without the 2 race ban, or Schumacher being DQed from 2 other races.
ohargreaves 1 year ago
@kileenjj well said. shui is the greatest, he made mistakes like all others and as u said senna was involved in 2 championshipswhere he one on the decider race he mysteriously smashed ito his opponent. thts cheating to me. but ppl need to get over it!!!
1006xrhonda 1 year ago
I´ve seen Damon Hill recently! He was exposing out of all your guys asses! You probably shoved him up there!
chrisfm23 2 years ago
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How ever it happened, it was the right result, Hill did not deserve the title that year.
rich1701 2 years ago
I agree, Hill didnt desrve to win because the FIA crucified Shumacher earlier in the year by banning him from 3 races, however...Schumacher drove a pretty dirty race in Adelaide.
mowerman437 2 years ago
the most annoying thing about that incident is that Hill didn't see Schumacher hit the barrier before he tried to pass. If he *had* seen, he would have probably realised that Schu was going to have to retire anyway, and he would have just waited.
Of course, none of that changes the fact that Schumacher is cheating scum who deliberately took Hill off, rather than concede defeat.
maddogUK69 2 years ago 33
@maddogUK69 meh, senna did it to prost too
petersims411 10 months ago
@maddogUK69
maddog the british cunt is obviously mad, go fuck yourself then and fix your british teeth ugly twat
OreillyORLY 8 months ago
@OreillyORLY Excellent response. Intelligent, mature, clearly reasoned and well thought out. Extra points for the lazy cultural stereotype. Replying to a year-old comment has clearly taken it's toll on your mental capacity. Take the rest of the day off.
maddogUK69 8 months ago
@maddogUK69 HILL HAD NO SKILL WATS SO EVER HE ISSOW AS FUK THSNKS TO NEWEY HE WON SCHUMACHER WAS PURE SKILL
dojOdRiFTeR 7 months ago
@dojOdRiFTeR
Then how come he isn't winning NOW?? DId his wet weather skill just disappear? He has raced in some wet races in 2010 and 2011, and that should have "leveled" the field.
FYI Nigel Mansell won a race in 1994 aged 42. Jack Brabham was almost champion in 1970 aged 44. Juan-Manuel Fangio took his 5'th and last title aged 46. Mario Andretti won an IndyCar race in 1993 aged 53 at a time CART was fiercily competitive and faster than F1.
First he needs to beat Nico Rosberg...
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes hmm I don't know if you saw Canada 2011 but schumi came pretty close to a podium finish. If it wasn't for the double DRS zone he could have made 3rd.
philateliceun 7 months ago
@dojOdRiFTeR Well you sure showed me. When faced with an enormous intellect for whom grammar, spelling and reading comprehension are such trifling details (not to mention an inability to disengage the caps-lock) I unreservedly withdraw my argument and humbly submit to your rapier-like insight.
maddogUK69 7 months ago
@maddogUK69 ssenna fan much troll away troll
dojOdRiFTeR 7 months ago
@maddogUK69 In fact he did see it. He just didn't realize that the Benetton was damaged.
Morthelion 5 months ago
Don't get it?
GPRacing1000 2 years ago
did track death?
TheMATTIST124 2 years ago
yeah
bangsaliem 2 years ago
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i can't believe there are some people that still claim this was a racing incident. look at what happen.
-schumi was getting chased down by hill, and made an error.
-hill saw the opportunity and went for a move he had enough room for
-schumi purposely crashes into damon so hill gets the suspension failure and has to retire.
if you want anymore proof, he tried the same thing with villeneuve, but jacques plodded on and probs could've won the race anyway, whereas schumi was in a ditch.
ShaunDobbie1andonly 2 years ago 21
I agree with all of this except the part about Hill chasing Schumacher down. The gap etween the 2 drivers was widening very very slightly each lap, but Schumacher was pushed into an error.
mowerman437 2 years ago
@ShaunDobbie1andonly ur so wrong. ill give my story1
- schuey is chased by hill
- he makes the error
- hill carries on
- schuey tries to continue and somehow hits hill
hill could have continued, the hit looked tiny
- next part is to tell u that ur sooo wrong
weatherallc05 1 year ago
@weatherallc05 no look at the on board footage ov hills car
sexygirl1678 1 year ago
@ShaunDobbie1andonly Yes, and after commentator Martin Brundle says something like, "sorry my friend, it didn't work this time," that was the reason why Michael never gave him an interview on the grid before the race for the rest of his career...
koitorob 1 year ago
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Who is this Barry Sheene anyway?
indauja12 2 years ago
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An old, retired MotoGP racer.
GP3PocketSnare 2 years ago
thx
indauja12 2 years ago
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Old dead ,MotoGP racer........
guarana80 2 years ago
I have to say that nobody is perfect ! Maybe Schumi did it in purpose, maybe not... In fact, i think its not ok that barry gets so pissed off on that broadcast... Thats a Race, you drive there with a the maximum speed ! You cannot be a machine ! That are humans ! I think you´re absolutly right Trondyard...and by the way, R.I.P Senna, we will always love you...
Tracio51 2 years ago
good on yer barry.
gilessmokey 2 years ago
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Hey guess what, Michael was still in front. So was it really his fault? No.
Eatgrunts 2 years ago
murray is so funny when he tries to change the subject
milanbarossa 2 years ago 3
hehe Murray is a legend, he didnt try to change the subject, he changed it. I aint watched f1 or anything since he retired it just isnt the same. Barry who?
CarpMagic95 2 years ago 2
Barry who? You dumb cunt!
AussieDefenceForce 2 years ago
Commentator, u dumbass
82607492 2 years ago
senna cheated as well as mclaren all you schumacher and ferrari bashers out there
kopitefony 2 years ago 4
well said. im a fan of senna myself, but a lot of people seem to forget he had some shady tactics as well over the years. i guess thats one of the bonuses of dying before your time, people forget your less popular moments
Metal4Truth 2 years ago 2
Like Micheal Jackson eh?
I'm not a fan btw!
adgta 2 years ago
He doesn't actually say he's angry. Just calls it a "disaster". Hamilton's electrical glitch in Brazil 2007 was a "disaster" for him and the team, but nobody ever said they were angry about it.
TobHussey 2 years ago 3
He was actually fuming but he has several times expressed his thankfulness to Barry Sheene. Sheene left the commentary booth and ran all the way down the the pits to intercept Hill before he was interviewed. He said "Damon, for goodness sake, DON'T say anything. I don't know why he saw it that way but perhaps he and Sheene thought the footage told the story on its own. It certainly does for anyone who's even half knowledgeable about racing. Hill was certainly livid after the event though.
gcmc2 2 years ago
he wasn't even pissed at schumacher.
GlennSpeed50 2 years ago
Yes, but you can see the "accident" on at least one other video here. I don't remember the title but it shouldn't be hard to find.
gcmc2 2 years ago
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This clip shows squat. Just a malboro mclaren going around a corner and 2 morons talking shit!!!
rangerdude25 2 years ago
lol
jraybay 2 years ago
Sorry - I see this has all been said before here. Do have a look at it though if you haven't seen it - there's just no mistaking what happened.
gcmc2 2 years ago
Schumacher is a cheating maggot and regardless of how many titles and races he won, he will NEVER be one of the true greats, because he was a cheat. F1 Racing did a piece a few years ago listing all his cheating. Like abandoning his car on the racing line in an attempt to get a red flag, taking Damon out, trying the same on Jacques (for which the FIA booted him from the championship), parking at Monaco (for which he was also punished). The guy is an utter wanker.
UncleBoogieRF 2 years ago 3
UncleBoogie stop being so polite and tell us what you really think about Scummy.
mrdiscus66 2 years ago 4
Yes, his career is tarnished by his behavior. Anyone who knows racing knows the Hill crash was no accident. It is one of the most blatant, shameful cases of cheating and bad sportsmanship I know. Crazy how blind some of his supporters are. Youngsters these days don't generally have real understanding of racing but only the completely deluded or ridiculously biased could believe it wasn't deliberate. MS DID admit it in an interview anyway (with a grin on his smarmy face)
gcmc2 2 years ago
He also tried the same trick with Jaques in 1997 but it backfired and he took himself out handing the championship to Jacques. Jaques called him for the cheat he was & referred to the Hill situation, marking the encounter as a carbon copy. He regarded him as a cheat & a man of poor character. ( which of course was an accurate assessment ) His fans still rattle on about him being the "best ever" without any idea of what they are talking about. His record doesn't come near to Clark or Senna.
gcmc2 2 years ago
You're right, his record doesn't come near Clark or Senna. He is beyond them. 91 wins, 7 world championships, 250 races, etc. I like how you say his career is tarnished by his behavior, Senna wasn't exactly the cleanest driver and did PLENTY of questionable things, but because he died I guess that makes everything ok?
alaric987 2 years ago 3
You young guys really need to learn how to propeerly evaluate their respective performances. Do you even try to comprehend when folk try and explain it to you ?
gcmc2 2 years ago
You haven't explained anything. You're just another Senna-worshiper who thinks he's a saint, when in reality he was dirtier than Schumacher.
alaric987 2 years ago
I notice this idiot's account is closed. There's no educating mugs like this anyway so I don't know why I bother. He either doesn't even read or can't comprehend the posts he replies to anyway.
gcmc2 2 years ago
You're an idiot with no idea of how to measure or rate things. Why not grow up and then take part in adult conversations ?
gcmc2 2 years ago
dry your eyes son
l2ickstar 2 years ago 2
Wait, What happened? and i though barry was a motorcycle racer did he go to f1?
Super23Nova 2 years ago
Barry Sheen was a commentater for the Nine Network in Australia. He commentated on all 500cc Bike races and also the Australian Grand Prix telecast.
mowerman437 2 years ago
He raced brit touring cars for a while and did quite a lot of truck racing. he was originally going to move to F1 but George Harrison talked him out of it. They were very close mates - built their houses next to each other in Australia and both sadly died within quite a short space of time.
gcmc2 2 years ago
Why wasn't he penalized? Causing an avoidable accident is in the rulebook, he should have been penalized.
darfunkelidas 2 years ago
He should have been as far as I am cocerned. Crash is on youtube and people can make up their own mind. Anyone can see what he did. His turning into Hill can clearly be seen to be nothing to do with any natural turn into the corner. Barry Sheene actually left the commentary booth and raced down to Hill to implore him NOT to say anything. Hill several times has said he was so glad Barry had done that. He was obviously fuming and ready to vent. Watch the crash - then come back with your view!
gcmc2 2 years ago
Well he did. It must have been at least 5 or 6 years ago & it was reported & discussed at the time. In any case an admission was not required. Anyone who knows racing & saw it knew who was to blame. Hill was inside him with a clear claim to the corner. A nose ahead DOESN'T mean you own the corner in any case - he was not "ahead" - he was being passed. MS then made a completely unnatural move and accutely turned his car into Hill. Unmistakable. I'm only a fan of fairness and I'm not English.
gcmc2 2 years ago
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Schumacher had a nose ahead in this situation. He had every right to the corner. If anything it was Damon's fault, but I see it as a racing incident. I never understood why people cried so much about this. Mostly the British fans though.
f1tony2003 2 years ago
Nonsense - What are you talking about ? Shuey admitted a few years later that he took Hill out deliberately. He stole the championship and he admitted it. How blind can you be ? lmao
gcmc2 2 years ago
I never heard where Schumi admitted to anything pertaining to this incident. I remember Senna admitting fault for he and Prost's crash in 1990 in Japan, but never have I heard Schumi claiming he did this purposely. Point me to the video please. Provide some proof please. I'm a lifelong Macca fan so I have no bias for Michael, but as I said it was mostly the British fans and the biased British press crying over this.
f1tony2003 2 years ago
where the heck did you hear that?
alexbublea 2 years ago
What ? - It's a matter of record. It was after a title winning race many years later - probably post 2000. It 's no secret - he was asked about it for the umpteenth time in an interviewer and broke into a silly smile. He first said well, I wasn't going to let him past" I can't remember the detail but many are aware of it because it was announced during an f1 telecast. It was no doubt an admission of guilt. Max Mosely commented that he should probably have his championship cancelled.
gcmc2 2 years ago
apart from the fact that Schumacher had already hit the wall and his car was damaged. He knew this so he shouldnt have been fighting for any corner.
bryemycaz 2 years ago
Are you mentally challenged?
You cant ram into another car when they have the inside line.
Going by you're thinking, I can smash into anyone I want, as long as I have some part of my car infront of them at the points of impact. Absolutly rubbish.
You cannot try to create an accident, and you cannot cause an accident. Two things Schumi did in this video. Schui knew he couldn't get past Hill, he didn't have enough courage and heart to even try.
Playtechy 2 years ago 30
Some people just need a pair of glasses...and a general legal racing rules bible (the one´s from back in the old days) :):)
Your just right about everything spoken.
Tuscopa 2 years ago
Hmm, sorry, but what "Eatgrunts" says is absolutely right. In the moment Hill and Schumacher crashed, Michael was in front. FACT! Some say, Damon just had to be a littlebit cooler and better tried to overtake Michael some corners later. The race was still long and Michaels car damaged. There was no reason for Schumacher not to close the door and no need for Hill to go that agressive into the inside line. Resume: It has been a normal race accident. And Hill lost.
Trondyard 2 years ago
schumacher just hit a fucking wall, yes he was in front but he fucked his car no way he was gonna have the pace to stay in front of hill, he knew this and blocked the racing line for hill, hence the crash happened, hence schumi is a cheat on this occasion, all the other occasions we can talk about later
freedomsoldier187 2 years ago 3
Shoey CRASHED into HILL.
There is no If's but's or maybe's about it.
Shoey made an error, therefor was going to be overtaken. When Hill went for the inside line (Which is a text book overtaking manouver) Shoey squeezed him into the wall.
He had so much of the track to use on the outside, instead he waited for Hill to get along side, then smashed into him.
I honestly do not know how it can be justified. Especially after 1997 in Jerez when he tied the same thing to Villeneuve!
Playtechy 2 years ago 3
i have to agree with ur statement here bro.. i think the same way as u
diwant 2 years ago
That crash is obvious. Yes, Damon maybe shouldn't have gone for it, but really try to make that decision in a split second. You see car in front of you losing it and you'll see an opportunity.
Any of what you wwrote doesn't justify deliberately crashing your rival out.
Bosseking 2 years ago
Fully correctly you wrote that Damon just had a split second to make that decision. But Schumacher've had exactly the same time, he was in front, he closed the door and they crashed. That's the story, and for me it's a race accident like many before and many after, but this one decided the championship. Maybe that's the difference. And I think it would've been a joke if Damon would have become WC1994. Micheal deserved that title much more. Sad we didn't see the duel with Ayrton Senna. R.I.P.
Trondyard 2 years ago
Watch closely and you see him looking at the both mirros knowing exactly where Hill was. He rammed him on purpose. No matter how deserving he was that year you should never win a title like that.
Bosseking 2 years ago 3
The same could be told about Senna or Prost. Just think of Suzuka '89 and '90. These guys are the greatest champions and they have such a big desire to win. I'm not a special fan of Schumacher, I'm a neutral Formula One-Fan and I am happy with the history. Just think about Damon passing Schumacher and becoming WC1994... what a joke... =)
Trondyard 2 years ago 3
I agree that Senna crashed Prost out and Prost crashed Senna out. It's not the fairness you'll be remembered in F1.
Bosseking 2 years ago
Well said.
ant1i0n 2 years ago
@Playtechy Except that Schumi was in the lead when he had the of, and came out ahead of Hill. And Hill stated that he tried to pass where there was no room.
I don't think it was a planned manouvre from Shcumis side, just unlucky that he didn't close the gap in time, and a great deal of stress that he was losing his lead
Compare to Jerez 1997 och La Rascasse 2006, there's your planned manouvres that stink.
hejamodo 1 year ago
@Playtechy I can see Vettel becoming a Schumacher. Ok im a mclaren fan, but at no time has Vettel pulled off a successful overtake this season against his rivals, mainly because he couldn't and he's not capable to. He won the title because he had clearly t