Keith Olbermann worst: Confederate Flag license plates

[allenco65]

olbermann is a liberal nazi

[rabuliz]

Folks forget that back then there wasn't an income tax. The only way the federal government could get taxes was by placing a levy on imported goods. Most of the ports were in the South. If I remember correctly it was New York, Boston, and Philadelphia, I'm not sure about Baltimore. The remaining ports were Southern, such as New Orleans, Mobile, Pensacola, and Charleston. The federal government had to invade the Confederate States or it simply couldn't function.

[fork1964]

In my opinion, Keith Olbermann is a closet commie.

[festdir]

@fork1964 "In my opinion"

Thanks for sharing your fucking feelings, Nancy.

Can't tell you how interesting it is.

[MrChucktbags]

The war was about STATES RIGHTS! not slavery or any of the other shit that people get spoon fed now days. my heritage is confederate and i'll get that tag as soon as it comes out.

[fork1964]

The North didn't want to lose the agricultural revenue from the South. That was the truth behind th war, not slavery.

[mazmonte77]

@fork1964 In a mainly agricultural economy the majority of the revenue does not ( did not go to ) go neither to the goverment nor to the part of the north that benefited from it. Also who was doing the majority of the work? In south caroline, for instance, after the import of new slaves was prohibited by congress in 1808, by 1856 the slave ppl was almost the same as the free ppl. The economic gain was huge...........for the South. If the slavery was not the main issue, why they dn't freethem?

[fork1964]

@mazmonte77 Many slaves were freed, some became slave owners themselves. If the war where about slavery, why did Ulysses Grant own a slave during the war? Why was New Jersey, a slave state, on the Union side? I had htm's but you tube won't let me use them.

[mazmonte77]

@fork1964 So the underground railroad is an invention of ours as well as the law passed by congress back them that demanded from free states to return " the run away slaves" back to their owners ?There were slaves in many parts of the country,but it is undiniable the fact that, in the south, slaves were the biggest economic investment and asset. over one third of the world's cotton was from the south. States rights and tarifs are related to the economy, this relied on slavery. Those are facts.

[fork1964]

@mazmonte77 The destination of the underground railroad was Canada, not any northern states. Yes, slavery was prominent in the South. You missed my point however, that even during the war, some states where slavery was still legal were fighting for the North. The main Union General, Grant owned a slave during the war and didn't free him until the emancipation proclamation was signed.

[mazmonte77]

@fork1964 couple of things:from 1830 on, the majority of the work in the north was done by new inmigrants from europe( industrial economy), slaves were present but as a domestic comodity and/or fading away as a social growing secment of the north. this created a big difference between the N and the S. The fact that slav was not legal in some states ( all of them in the N) indicates an oposing view of the syst by many. Many R roads ended in Det and NY.Canad was not oblig to return runawayby law.

[festdir]

@fork1964 "Election of a man to the high office of Pres. of the US, who is hostile to the institution of slavery"--Declaration of Causes of Secession.

It's really too bad the CSA founders couldn't have dumbed down the title of that document a bit more for you.

[fork1964]

@festdir I'm dumb? I'm not a coward like you. I don't post negative opinions and then delete my profile. Shut up or grow up.

[festdir]

@fork1964 "I'm dumb" "then delete my profile"

Good call, shit-for-brains.

[fork1964]

@festdir I didn't realize you where too afraid to make your profile public. Will your Mother not let you?

[festdir]

@fork1964 "too afraid to make your profile public"

Yep, sure am.

I didn't realize that utter morons would simply change the subject after being proven wrong.

Thanks for demonstrating.

[fork1964]

@festdir The leader of the Union army, Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner during the war. Why would he own a slave if he were fighting to free them? Also, I believe you are afraid to make your profile public.

[festdir]

@fork1964 "Why would he own a slave if he were fighting to free them?"

You mean the slave that was willed to him by his father-in-law? The one he freed in 1859?

Other than that.....because he wasn't a traitor. Everywhere he killed traitors, slaves were freed.

"I believe"

I don't believe I give a shit what you believe.

tool.

[fork1964]

@festdir I don't know where you got your bogus information, but Grant did not free his slave until the 13th amendment went into effect. Northern General Sherman did not free his slaves until Dec. 1865. The war was about money, no one in the North said anything about slavery until the U.K. announced it was going to ally with the C.S.A. Are you aware that Free Black men, Latinos and Native Americans also fought for the south?

[festdir]

@fork1964 "no one in the North said anything about slavery"

Other than Lincoln's platform of stopping the spread of slavery to new states?

The CSA made no secrete of the reasons for secession.

As proven by THE DECLARATION OF CAUSES OF SECESSION.

As proven by the VP of the CSA.

'Facts'--Much like warfare...Just not southerners strong point......As proven by you.

[galoon]

@fork1964 Not true. Grant freed that slave in 1859. Sherman never owned any slaves, and the UK had soured on the Confederacy by 1864. And the South never recruited any black units until three weeks before the war ended--and to show their trust, they trained in the Richmond prison yard, and were led by prison wardens and MPs. Talk about bogus information--which SCV "fact sheet" did this malarkey come from?

[MegaAstrodude]

@festdir,

It's a tricky question, but Grant basically owned slaves because of the laws governing women's property rights awarded control of her slaves to him, although this law was being challenged. His wife nominally owned the slaves, but the rights to use the property were given to the husband under the law at that time usually. Either way, Grant was either a slave-owner or a direct user of slave labor. He favored gradual elimination of slavery and was not an immediate abolitionist.

[festdir]

@MegaAstrodude "Grant was either a slave owner...."

Grant freed the slave willed to him in 1859, & far more pertanent, he didn't commit treason in order to protect the institution of slavery.

The CSA were immoral, treasonous cowards.....and that statement isn't tricky at all.

[MegaAstrodude]

@festdir,

No argument there.

[festdir]

@Torbon8372 "Those 'cowards' inflicted..."

And they still surrendered, like cowards.

"bunch of farmers"

Yes, if only the CSA had a general or two.

"superior manpower took over"

Superior martial abilities & superior morality took over.

The US vs GB, Finn vs USSR, Afgans vs USSR, Vietnam vs France, China & the US...all of them had far worse positions. Yet they kept the sovereignty the immoral cowardly traitors never earned.

The only flag the CSA ever flew correctly was the white flag.

[Torbon8372]

@festdir You're an ignorant twat. The only reason the US defeated Great Britain was because France, Spain and the Netherlands all intervened on behalf of the US. All of your examples involve much of the same thing. The US, UK and China all supplied the Afghans with war material while fighters poured in from all over the Muslim world. The Viet Minh received substantial support from both China and the USSR in the first Indochinese war. The Confederacy, created from scratch, was all on its own.

[festdir]

@Torbon8372 "Vietnam"

What support did they receive that was anywhere near the technological equivalency of the US?

"supplied the Afghans"

One of the 'supplies'? Donkeys. HOW COULD THEY LOSE?!? DONKEYS FTW!!!!!

"Confederacy was all on its own"

Where was the CSS Alabama made? Which one of the other nations mentioned received a top-of-the-line ship? Too bad the CSA didn't just trade it for Donkeys, amirite?

There is no other historical example of a defender, with so much, lose so completely.

[galoon]

@fork1964 Apart from the textile industry, the North wasn't receiving any agricultural revenue from the South. There has never been any tax on exports of cotton or anything else. The North's agricultural produce was feeding Mississippi and much of Tennessee before the war broke out. After secession and the war came, Northern textile mills were still able to run on cotton purchased from Egypt and India and not surprisingly, food shortages began to plague the South.

[Genius14928]

Actually, its conservatives that hate freedom of speech. Evidence - Joe McCarthy, Fox News, and the Bush administration, along with so much more.

[jimbad05]

This just in: liberals hate freedom of speech.

*Unless that freedom of speech supports minorities, gay rights, war (when not in power), environmentalism (up to and including environmental terrorism) and tearing apart cities due to nonsensical WTO protests. Bonus points if you burn a U.S. flag

[Suzaku000]

@jimbad05

Give an example.

[AirCargoHeavy]

I type in "self-aggrandizing, talentless, overrated blowhard" and get Keith Olbermann.

[KentuckyThunder1863]

Olbermann is a waste of air. Even worse than O'Reilly. Resupplying troops in a newly soveriegn country that legally secceded, is an act of war. Blabber on you brainwashed fool.

[BuschTek]

Olbermann is such an as shole.

[IoEstasCedonta]

"Mounted an armed insurrection" isn't *quite* fair...

[mystery1881]

The Florida SCV jumped through all the State required hoops - survey, prototype, deposit ($60,000!), etc, even when many others were exempted. To deny them is a blatant act of discrimination based soley on content. It's a scandal that over 100 different plates are allowed in FL at all. If there's to be Manatees, Gators, Dolphins, etc. plates, you've got to be fair allow the SCV the Confederate heritage plate - let the market decide if it will generate any revenue. You don't have to buy one.

[bt804d]

I'm glkad I saw this! Now I know to NEVER watch this guy on TV again......Fly the Flag!

[franksinclair1]

@bt804d BURN the flag!

[jimbad05]

Keith is a jackass. So Confederate Flags license plates are stupid, but Malcolm X day in Oakland, California is just dandy, huh? I wonder what Malcolm X would have thought of a "blue eyed devil" like you Keith. Why don't you go hang out at the Malcolm X day celebrations and tell us how wonderful it is?

[ke4bss]

Most people who express their opionions expecially these morons on TV have no fucking idea what they are talking about.

[wolfgang15425]

HES SO FUCKING STUPID ITS JUST A FLAG OK THERE are balck people who whear it

[rotag01]

dont need any history lessons from this aggie.

[BillyzaCoon]

Keith is a motherfucking retard, he needs to get off NBCs dick and join FOX. He wouldnt tell as many lies on Tv anymore.

[greghicksUS]

We didn't start any damn war, we were invaded and forced to retalliate against hostility.

[franksinclair1]

@greghicksUS revisionist history.

BURN THE CONFEDERATE FLAG!

[mowgli2071]

Well said Keith!!!

[TurtlesandWolves]

Keith, stick with sports you simpleminded scumbag and stop advancing your dimwitted propaganda and revisionism.

[ThePatrioticPotatos]

Fuck you Olbermann you stupid Yankee basterd!

[rockandroll1110]

Keith Olbermann is an idiot.

[revo39564]

Oh...no its the part where we didn't want a strong federal government that usurpted the rights of the states.....the part where we wanted to stay true to the core beliefs of the founding fathers and the constitution.

[greghicksUS]

@revo39564 Somebody payed attention in US History, thank god there's another educated individual on this video.

[rockandroll1110]

this guy obviously doesn't know the constitution,which PROTECTS secession,afterall,if he wants to be like that about it,we are all traitors to the U.K.

[MockStoneLLC]

YOU ARE A MORON KEITH!

treasonist? no way! we had the right to protect states rights!

LAWFULL?!? now thats the biggest strech! but then again this is CNN so its backwards world, since then america has gotten SOOOO tyrannical the founding fathers would think they were back in england!

[chadhub]

this guys a dumbass if hes not doing this hes calling reagan a lousy prez. This sack of pig slop matersbates to obama but doesnt even know the constituation(cant spell) which said what we did was alright. people who care stop watching this prick and lets start a protest agasint him

[TheRebel2007]

Right after you learn to read and spell correctly.

[TheRebel2007]

Right after you learn to read and spell.

[chadhub]

spoken like a true nimrod

[TheRebel2007]

Sorry, I should have spelled my comment phoenetically so you could have understood it.

[chadhub]

no i am sorry you think i care what a ageing hippie thinks

[TheRebel2007]

Please post a comment after you have acheived puberty.

Thank you.

[coydiddy]

Keith Olberman is ignorant to Confederate heritage. Of course he would call us who understand Confederate heritage ignorant.

[Texjim]

what a sneering, pompous buffoon

[XxMG42gunnerxX]

lol I guess were all treasonous traitors towards the British governemnt too

[24beam]

Fort Sumpter was located in S. C. a confederate state. So the confederacy didn't invade anyone until after the war began. The union tried to send troops to fort sumpter (state owned and state run) and to keep the union from having a foothold in the south they defended themselves. READ A BOOK NOT WRITTEN BY A PACIFIST LIBERAL!

[tthomaselli2]

Don't give up hope...: Keep the bars & stars flying!

[kasdri]

Why do people even care about the confederate flag , the south lost !

End of story .

[24beam]

Kieth Olberman is an Idiot. The union had slaves as well as the confederacy, and the union invaded the confederacy to start the war.

[olivemike81]

Actually the war started when the South fired on Fort Sumter. READ A BOOK!!

[greghicksUS]

@olivemike81 You're a fucking dumbass, maybe YOU need to read a book because the South was fired upon by Union soldiers at Fort Sumter which started the war.

[olivemike81]

@greghicksUS lol are you fucking kidding me?!

[indaimie]

@greghicksUS

....aaaaaaaaand there was a bit or racism involved. Stop trying to pretend they were angels:

"Our government is founded upon the supposition. . . that the white man is not equal to the black man, that slavery is his natural and normal condition. . . Our government is the first in the world to be founded upon this. . . fact" (approximate quote) --Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America, 1861. Quoted in BATTLE CRY OF FREEDOM by James M. McPherson.

[limpbizkit818]

This man is the definition of a bigot.

[AlabamaCSA]

Olbermann is an idiot...

[godzillum]

What a stupid man. He knows nothing of his history. Has Florida gotten their CSA plates yet? I know they introduced it. I'm surprised that even Maryland had them before Florida. Anyway, the South didn't make an insurrection, they had every right to secede. I'd prefer an agrarian life to an industrial one any day.

[803honda]

weve had glorious sons of confederate veterans platesin federally occupied South Carolina a long long time and the only ones that complain are the northern imperials and the National Association for the Abuse of Carolina People.

Worst Person In The World: Keith Olbermann - historical ignorance and cultural biggotry

[SCRebel22]

Hahahahahaha Olbermann is a retard who doesnt know squat.

[803honda]

damn right!

i bet his brainwashers neglected to tell him that slavery was legal in new york till 1855 and new jersey till 1865(the emancipation proclamation[1863] only applied to southern states and western territories).

it was dishonest abe that ignored the constitution and invaded our countrys. he sent the first terrorist to burn our beloved Carolina to the ground and murder civilians to coerce us into returnin to their empire.

THERE IS NO UNITY IN A FORCED UNION!

FREE DIXIE, NOT IRAQ!

[todddoom]

GO TO HELL Keith Olbermann!! This is from a letter from Abraham Lincoln to the New York Times August 22, 1862 "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the union, and is not either to save or destroy Slavery, If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would do that." Lincoln invaded the south to collect taxes YOU IDIOT!

[Mark617]

What an ignorant slut...the south started this bloody war? That was started by north invading the south for having the audacity to put the words of the Declaration of Independence into practice.

[CtHunter8]

Keith Olbermann is a self-richeous pretty-boy liberal self-centered faggot. Pro-slavery? Robert E. Lee preached of abolition LONG before anyone else has. Pro-slavery? How about the Lousiana Native Guard? The first all-black vlunteer regiment of the Civil War. Treasonous? Like the militiamen of the Revolution were streasonous? Fuck you Keith, and I'd LOVE to meet you face to face you pompous ass..

[kasdri]

You think Oberman is pretty . So how is it like being gay and from the south ?

[Lesnar316F5]

How is it being stupid? Gay means happy not homo. You Moron!

[RacerE7773]

I have relatives from the South (proud of it) and if I could live in a one tag state I'd have the Confederate flag plate on the front. Ohio needs to drop the front tag just like alot of states did. The you have the stupid states that went back to 2 tags. WTF?

[crazycamodude]

pro slavery?

well, not much crop can be grown up north.. they didnt need slaves, the North just used Slavery as a scapegoat.

[tobbems]

These comments are pretty fascinating. Who knew so many rednecks are not just proud of the south's actions 150 years ago, but are drooling over the thought of a second civil war? Wow.

[the0prynce]

I typically am with Olbermann but not this time. My ancestors fought for the Confederacy and one died a POW in Elmira and I'll take pride in that for the rest of my life. They fought for what they believed in and against the opressive new laws and ideals coming from the apathetic North.

-=The Prynce

[kaydizzleboy]

dude you have got to be kidding.Not knocking your people who died for fighting on the stupid side of ignorance but what are you talking about.But if you hold any kind love for a system of government that kilkled, inslaved,and perpously held down a number of races then you are an idiot.Love your people but if they stood bullsh*t learn to seperate

[crazycuntryboy2]

Immature total IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free country bitch! We rebelled agasint assholes like you.

Look what your "victory" did to the country! DESTROYED IT!

[khattamshud]

olberman... what a fucktard. and no, i'm not a southerner.

[porcupinephil1]

Keith Olbermann is a total idiot. Where do they find people like him? What a perfect combination of hypocracy and arrogance.

Plus, he lies so convincingly! A truly talented man.

[HeritageNotHateProd]

THIS SHOW IS A WASTE OF TIME.

[HeritageNotHateProd]

This video just goes to show how DUMB Keith Olbermann is.

HOW DOES HE THINK THE USA FORMED??? DOES HE THINK THE COLONISTS GOT PERMISSION FROM THEIR GOVERNMENT????

DEATH TO TYRANNY!

[meetman3]

Sir, May I ask you which part of your Colonial Heritage are you the most proud of?

The Pro Slavery part? The Armed Treasonous Insurrection against a Lawful British Goverment...Or the part that led to a war that killed thousands of our British Brothers?

Sir...I say, Damn your Hypocritical Goverment and Flag!

[NoisyJukebox]

Its a free country asshole!

If Codepink can call our marines killers

hell you will see my mexican-ass carrying the rebel flag, why! cuz its free speech

DONT TRED ON ME.

[goodolboy11]

Keith Olbermann is just another ignorent jackass who doesnt know the truth about the confederacy, fuck you

[ActorAwesomeJeremy]

Keith Olbermann is awesome

[LJARSONBECK]

I'll never say the confederacy did the right thing- but for the time I see their points. ROBERT E LEE was perhaps the most honorable soldier this country has ever had- yet he despised slavery. The country was less than a generation old before the north dictated policy. Today we demand less national government. I see I love NY shirts all the time- what has ever been so great about NYC- the mafia corruption?? or the Rockefellers ripping off America. The old south has an easy way about it.

[Imperiused]

Keith's right again. Heritage my ass. You know that before Lincoln was elected, when the slave states had the most power in DC, they favored an increase in Federal power? When Lincoln won, they suddenly switched to increasing state power. Heh. The Confederacy was a hypocritical movement that was incredibly racist and intolerably unlawful. No one broke the rules except the power-hungry leaders of the confederacy. Hell, they even took advantage of poor southerners. How can you honor the Confeds?

[trichome333]

Really man? I'll check that but thats a nice piece of knowledge if its true. THANKS!

[hughess3]

Read the book "The south was right"

Its a great legal argument about the secession movement. Its always good to get another point of view and remain openminded

[Imperiused]

I'll have a look. If the book's subject is the legality of secession, then I'll have to give the author some acknowledgment, as I myself have questioned whether the 'right to revolution' is the Constitution. (thinking of Amendment 9) If you remember, the 'right to revolution' was used by our founding fathers and many others in secessionist movements. However, the goal of the founders was to establish control, not create a state in which the liberty to rebel was legal.

[solgoode1]

Why do we need a piece of paper to tell us it's ok to revolt. If we don't like the rules being imposed upon on us, even under the guise of social contract, go ahead and revolt. Never let some other person tell you what you can or can't do. Every man and women has every right to the Earth that every other man and woman does. I can't believe how many people don't understand this.

[Imperiused]

You sort of answer your own question. We need a piece of paper to tell us its okay to revolt the same reason we need you to tell people its okay to revolt. The constitution is just a contract that the people of America more or less agree to live by. People need to know that revolting is okay within their social contract.

I'm not against the RtR. All I'm saying is there was no legal or moral grounds to the southern succession, which you need for the right to revolution.

[fluffynoses]

not to mention, it's that same piece of paper that many gun lovers are using over and over again to cry and whine about their rights.

so you see, it can go both ways. by the way, that "piece of paper" you're referring to is the U.S. constitution. i'm sure you would prefer an anarchy like somalia for example?

[solgoode1]

Obviously you missed the higher philosophical point I was trying to make. Social contract is arbitrarily chosen by us; the people of the Earth. That said, it is our decision to rewrite that contract as needed. This is also what the framers of the Constitution intended. Think a little deeper next time before you post.

[fluffynoses]

aha, so now you're trying to use the concept of the social contract to justify southern secession.

the fact is, the south left the united states because they felt their "rights" as states were being abused because the north wanted to impose various anti-slavery laws. so in a sense, the irony of confederate politics was that they revolted because they were being denied the freedom that they were denying to others.

"Think a little deeper next time before you post." goes both ways asshole

[solgoode1]

I said nothing about the secession of the south. Where did you get that from? However, since you brought it up. Morality aside, the Confederacy didn't do anything wrong in trying to secede. I suppose I'll have to point out to your tiny little mind that I do find slavery abhorrent. And don't call me an asshole you snot nosed little shit.

[fluffynoses]

you find slavery abhorrent but you didn't find anything wrong in the Confederacy trying to split b/c they were being denied rights to have slaves. that my friend is what they call a contradiction. why don't you read from some real history, not "Uncle Jimmy Jack's Glorious History of the Good Ol' Confederacy" before you make stupid comments again please.

btw, you're the one who made this personal so you can go cry to your mommy about me calling you an asshole if it will make you feel better

[solgoode1]

It's not a contradiction at all. The right of people to govern themselves in their own way because of their own beliefs and wanting to secede from an established form of government is exactly what the revolutionary war was all about. That's real history isn't it? Please stop replying. You have lost this argument three times and really aren't smart enough to argue with me. I'm sorry pal. Also, you insulted me first. I simply asked you to formulate a more well thought out argument.

[Imperiused]

And besides, in the end legality matters very little. Slavery was legal, was it not? It was even in the constitution! The dilemma of legal or ethical still plagues lawyers today. Just think of torture. Sure, the White House can make it legal, but its as sure as hell not ethical or right. Even if the South had any legality in its cause whatsoever, as you say this book points out, that doesn't make the south "right".

[leejackson1853]

you f---ing ass wimp, i knew there was a reason i couldn't stand your ass!!!!!!!!!!!!

[aspie101]

Olbermann is nothing but a socialist, plain and simple.

[doom876]

And yet, the confederates did just as he said. They even attacked first.

[scurrytube]

Ok, I'm all for family history - but some things you can research and store in a book - others you dont have to broadcast.

What would you think of Germans with Hilter in their family tree - riding around town with a Swastika - for God's sake - people give me a break. If your people were enslaved - you wouldnt find much to be proud about - would you???????????????????

[doom876]

The north helped traffic slaves, and it was only after taking away slaves was used as a threat to the south that the Emancipation Proclemation was enacted.

[lycurgusthelawgiver]

It was also done to prevent the confederacy from recieving support from European nations, most of which had technically outlawed slavery (though in fact their economies were supported in large part by slave plantations in the Caribbean and other territories).

[aubiecatt]

Olberman is a dipshit. "An armed treasoist insurrection against the lawful govt. of the US" You guys that keep this peice of shit on the air are rediculous. I guess that dipshit Olbeman didn't know that cession was covered under constitution. Read a book you stupid left liberal propgandist dip shit. Keith Olberman "Worst Person in the World" !

[six2112]

well said

[doom876]

Well, you guys did attack our fort first.

[franksinclair1]

@doom876 You guys illegally seized federal military property. You bet we attacked you!

[ibejoestern]

Cession may be covered in the constitution, but secession is not. Get off the xbox, read a book.

[southernman517]

what a ignorant fuck

[bleuchipper]

Starry 2000, maybe you can enlighten me on southern pride enthusiast protesting the use of the confederate flag, just send me a link so i can research. In your opinion starry who else should be held to the task as you mention. No assumptions made, but I would like to see proof of the protest that was stated above, I don't think you will find any. It is what it is. After all, this isn't the united confederate states of america.

[bleuchipper]

How come you never see southern pride enthusiast protesting the use of the confederate flag at kkk or skinhead rallys?

[Starry2000]

bluechipper, why do you only hold "southern pride enthusiast"s to that task? Why do you assume that they haven't, and that I've never seen them? Why is it even necessary to begin with? Just curious.

My opinion as to what the true answer is? It's more of the same hatred you imply you don't have, or only have for those groups and that flag.

Sigh.

[Starry2000]

The confederate flag happens to be a part of the states, and subsequently the nations, history. The plate represents the hostory of the southern states, and is not synonymous with hatred in and of itself.

Furthermore I find the hatred towards southerners here quite ironic and disgusting. I shouldn't be surprised by those comments, as they are the ones who can't wrap their minds around the idea I proposed.

Olbermann is way off the mark on this one, way to defensive and sensitive.

[politburo]

Let the South rise again!

We'll burn it down again ;)

[Starry2000]

Such pure Hatred, "politburo". You should be ashamed of yourself that you are hoping for more bloodshed, war, and loss of life.

Oh and "burn it down again"? Burning down the homes of innocent civilians? Their food? Their ancient architecture?

Sickening.

[watsonp2]

Fuck Iraq, bomb the south and finish off these vermin rednecks!!!Gonna have to because they breed like rats.

Not to worry though; actually doing shit is is a bit of a hamper on their typical doughnut budweiser and ciggarette routines. And god bless them on sunday after they finger bang their daughters.

'The south will rise again' my ass

[liberalgrl]

OLBERMANN RULES!!! and he is right, wat idiot would want a confederate flag on their license plate?!?

[KarateKidX]

and worst person today, olbermann

[Boucherdesaxons]

Guess the Olbermann never heard of Senator Robert Byrd. MSDNC is the worst news channel on cable and DNCtv (aka. NBC ) on t.v.

[BOMBERMAN1231029]

hey kieth, treason??? i guess George Wasington did as well. I cant Stand Yankees who get into Southern Affairs. If you dont like the confederate flag, go cry about it.

[Broadway14534]

That flag stands for slavery. You'll say, "No, it stands for states rights." But what other issue than slavery was there over state's rights?

[Starry2000]

That flag represents history and heritage Broadway14534. Not hatred, not slavery, but a period of time that may mean a lot to anyone.

A lot of people in the south have ancestors that fought in the war, and whether right or wrong, what they accomplished does hold significant meaning. There is nothing wrong with being proud of any or all of those things.

[Broadway14534]

I know that part of it is heritage. I'm from virginia, and my dad's from south carolina. I have ancestors on both sides of the war. But I still think it's rascist to fly a confederate flag. There's nothing wrong with southern pride, but think about it from an african american's perspective.

[Starry2000]

I understand how a black American could take offense to the confederate flag. However, again, it is also just as much apart of their history as any other citizens. I do not assume that black Americans look at the confederate flag to only see hatred. I think it would be arrogant to do so, and thus it would be wrong to act on any particular assumption of what someone may or may not see.

[Broadway14534]

I disagree. If I was an african american, and I saw someone promoting that flag I would be outraged. I would see it as the rallying point for hundreds of people to deny freedom. I have nothing against confederate soldiers, or freedom of speech, for that matter, but there are other ways to show pride in heritage.

[Starry2000]

"If I was an african american"

But you're NOT, and anyway I did concede that black people may take offense to it. I already said that. Everyday I see and hear atrocious things that offend me, right out in the public domain.

I don't like it, but I'm not going after them just because it offends me personally.

[velocichrist]

i agree with the free speech argument, but having it on government-produced license plates? and say what you will about the confederacy's right to secede, when they fired on fort sumter, they became enemies of the United States and therefore the Union had every right remove that threat to its sovereignty.

[BOMBERMAN1231029]

Fort Sumpter??? You do know that the fort was in SOUTH CAROLINA ....right??? wouldnt that be considered part of the confederacy after SOUTH CAROLINA succeeded? if so then it was occupied by another country, why should they not get their property back???

[velocichrist]

it was still a Union military base, much like the United States has in a great number of countries today. it doesn't matter where the fucking fort was, it was the property of the federal government, and it was an unprovoked attack against the United States military. and it's spelled fort sumter. look it the fuck up asshole.

[velocichrist]

and south carolina never succeeded, they seceded from the union. fucking christ bomberman, go to fucking school and learn something for christ's sake.

[BOMBERMAN1231029]

thats what i meant when i said succeeded. telling me to go to school? just how old are you? you couldnt even discern what i meant by "succeeded." and not sure if your language helps your argument. YES if a state succeedes all the land in the state belongs to the state.

[sixlbr]

Olbermann reminds us that ignorance of history can be a terrible thing, especially if you happen to be as big a jerk as he is.

[BOMBERMAN1231029]

i agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[afletch]

i would love to buy one of those plates.

[blackmegan7]

I believe that this flag is a part of southen history,the rebel flag for the south. I would not own one because It can be offenive to many people, but as a free country, freedom of speech is important.There shouldn't be anything done about someone wanting to display this flag. That is that persons right and choice. And that flag did't stand for hate at the time please do research on this flag.

[bammbamm12]

A Floridian? Florida? Civil War? Isn't this where Lincoln wanted to send the blacks after they were freed? How many Floridians fought in the Civil War? There were probably more men from 14th St in Manhattan.

[southernman517]

this is getting really fucking ridiculas.

[frellthat]

What a douche. The southern states had a right to secede. And we in the north would be a lot better off today if they'd been allowed to.

[ChartreuseEmu]

You make a good point, although i would have liked it if they kept the separate but equal water fountain policy, because with the new races pouring into the country, there'd be a short line at the "mixed asian european" one.

[2ndAsstJizzMopper]

only on planet dummkopf (w/president olbermann) can _lawful_ secession be deemed "treasonous insurrection". what an idiot and anti-liberty slob. his disgusting fallacy game can be played far more easily and voluminously with the fedgoon flag. the notable problem here is the existence of coercive "license plates", not what the hell some jackass wants to put on or around them.

[hichcoc]

or McCain Hussein..or even hillary Hussein.

[pequisto]

sanctimonious snob, goes good with Baraq Hussein