You'd think you'd see at least some intelligent discussion about this flight; what it's goals were, etc., Instead some guy living in his mom's basement holds forth with a 6,000 word essay about nothing!
Thus, the universal vehicle will contains: 1).-the body strenght frame; 2).-the thermonuclear controlled reactor; 3).-coolling devices; 4).-reactive electromagnetic motors for drive force and for orientation. At this vehicle, with the steering-wheel or separate commands aid, we direct motors' traction force on any displacement way. The possibilitiys of adaptation and using such vehicles are unlimited in any domain: transport, energy, mining, agriculture,building, dwellings...
The magnetic field produced by superconductor coil, is transformed in electromagnetic field which can evolve in space and will produce the reaction force. The superconductive coil will be supplyed with permanet current at 35...40 kV. This motor is an antigravitational motor, but this will constitute the principal device- indispensable -in the realization the magnetic trap for the thermonuclear controlled reactor!
The reactive electromagnetic motor isn't one invention, it is 100% impression of one part from the schema in the tomb stone from Palenque; which is not sculptured or carved, but is pressed in one die, and mean that it was not performed of the primitive man! The motor has: superconductor coil for magnetic field producing; magnetic nozzles, magnetic circuits for variation of magnetic permeability; dielectric rings for changing electric permitivity.
Mikhael angel showed him thermonuclear controlled reactor namely:"And my spirit hasbeen hiden and me Enoh saw the light of those core.Something as an ice stones house arisen and among ice pieces hadbeen alive fire flames.And my spirit beheld a circle which surround with fire that house from its fourth corner to these alive fire rivers which had enclosed the house.And around it they hadbeen seraphs, cherubs and ophamins, these are eternally awake and watch over the glory(ship)"
Heavenly vehicles with thermonuclear controlled reactor were made and exist of thousands years ago.Nikola Tesla was not mad and the Holy Scriptures deceive not. In the Hebrew apocryphal "Jubilees book" it says about patriarch Enoh that he was with God's angels 7 jubilees(49 years) and they, from a great heavenly ship's board showed him all what exist on Earth and in Skys, this now over 4300 years.
I had thinked a proposal of realisation to one universal vehicle, good on Earth but and in cosmos. The source of energy is a thermonuclear controlled reactor, and the traction is realized through a set of reactive electromagnetic motors. The realization of these, impose a revision and elucidation to some parts from the actual science, which is strangled of the theoretical physics with a series of metaphysical laws and principles.
The presenter of theoretical physics and scientific-fantastical scenarious know not that in the Holy Scriptures is speak about the heavenly world and about heavenly ships. The Jews od 2000...3500 years ago named them: pear of fire, the cloud, glory of the God, angel, fire cart, fire whirl, a.s.o. In Iezechil's book it describes the appearance, the landing and the starting of a big cosmical vehicles. Iezechil describes the landing train as a four alive creatures group.
In present we try different vehicles in every medium(submarine, ships, motor cars, trains, airplanes and rockets), and they don't express an optimum garantee neiter for present nor for future. I follow of 50 years the realization of the russians and americans the penetration of the man in cosmos, but the realised progress is not good and sure, but very expensive, very heavy and dangerous.
I have to dislike this, because the launch was just about as fake as possible. Nothing that was to be built for this rocket was built at the time. It was pretty much the world's largest Estes rocket, something to show the media to feign progress. It was useless in that it did not test anything except for the shape, and with that, not even well. I guess they tested the stand?
@AirSOFTLOVER12 Lets discover who is what here. You probably are familiar with the word "video" because of your Play Station, because you apparently missed so much school little one that instead of using a vocabulary you choose vulgarity, and nor do you know how to comprehend what you read the first time through. So, sonny boy, I suggest that you put down your pea-shooter and game controller for one minute to read my comment again. But I doubt you will. `(ಠvಠ)'
@AHGlasher So first off I don't even understand why you chose to bring video games into the comments, and for the vulgarity, yeah, I cursed. It's a word. Who cares. And for the video game controller part, Yeah I built my custom computer so I don't use video game controllers, and I don't play a lot of video games anyway so where the hell you got this from I have no clue. And my pea-shooter? Excuse me?
@AirSOFTLOVER12 You still haven't re-read my original comment? I'm not surprised, I predicted that. I'm trying to figure out why you don't want to read it. Did it go right over your head? Is that the reason for your misdirection? Anything to avoid the point I guess.
p.s. You think putting together a computer system is a big deal? Maybe 20-25 years ago. But now who would call that a bragging point? Ha, ha, you go ahead though.
@ShdowSora First off, after I mentioned about: " While money spent on the space program has at least a $2-$3 value return for every dollar spent.", and more, Airsoft went on to say that I deny any benefit arose from the space program while insulting my intelligence with vulgarity. So, on his level, less the vulgarity, I suggested that he reread my comment . So rather than admitting he had he chose to go in another direction and play. I responded in like. Not arrogantly or vulgarly. Take care :c)
@meteor4163 Yeah, within a page or so you'll go from "scientific advancement as new rocket launches" to "HITLER DID 9/11!!!" or "Wake up sheeple, the UFO chem-trails are controlling our minds!"
@ProvokantX Really? NASA is going to get 18.7 billion dollars for 2012. What the fuck are you talking about "no money from the government". Sure, they deserve a lot more, but it's better than nothing.
Look Im no rocket scientist but Im 60 I have been seeing this type of lift off since school days, this is crap, you cant convince me that this is the only way of getting into space, this is a show for us poor subserviant dumb humans that go to work and have loans so that we can life in a system that hollywood has dictacted to us on how we should live, if this does'nt work well the bible will, Lambs to slaughter , we are being screwed, we are slaves to a system of greed. Im not a nut case .
@hamleyn OK then.start debating or are you just a lame brain you did not have many words in your defence, If you think that what I have said is nonsence than tell me your thoughts, Im ready to listen . come on give it a go, you might suprise yourself.
@critchley3819@AHGlasher put it best. But if you think there is a better way of getting into space, why don't you go and find it? Going it to space is all about man's curiosity and ingenuity of furthering the species. It's exciting, enthralling, exhilarating and, for us average joes, inspiring to see the human race extending itself beyond its current boundaries. Instead of bitching and moaning, you should be revelling in our genius.
@hamleyn Don't waste your breath. He, like so many others will never get it. They perfer to think that money is better spent on dead-end give-away programs that have a zero return value. While money spent on the space program has at least a $2-$3 value return for every dollar spent. To them, in other words, two free six packs in the hand is worth all the technology, science, value added and jobs gained in the bush.
@Yurielkafa Nothing happened to it, it was only a first stage test. The second stage was a dummy and had no rocket engines. After the first stage burned out, the two stages separated and fell back to earth.
-Zombie horde coming- "What am I gonna do?" -See's a rocket- "YAY! I can escape with that!" -Looks inside the rocket- Sign: Made In China. "NOOOOOO!!!!!"
All this brilliant tech and the US have to throw it away as the debt for Iraq and Afghanistan plus consumer credit starts to bankrupt the country. Soon Baikonur will be the only place available to send manned missions to space- what a waste- blame George W. Obama's only covering the checks "W" wrote out. Such a fall from the heady Apollo days
Obama killed this program. This test flight is all we'll ever see. Obama is a disaster for manned space flight. He killed it. That's change we don't believe in!
@ArmyFtBall actually it had nothing to do with Obama. Ares I was a terrible design and would have cost a fortune. Numerous redesigns of Orion because of the low mass fraction required to reach orbit, tons of money to develop 5 segment solid first stage and the J2-X engine for the second stage were all unaffordable. Also an Air Force study concluded there was a 100% probability of the crew being killed during an abort in the first 90 seconds because the exhaust would melt the chutes.
@LonghornPhysicist - Ares I has a recurring cost of around $138 million. That's significantly cheaper than Shuttle recurring costs (over $400 million a flight on cheap flights). Much of the money spent so far was on infrastructure changes, not just adding another segment. The redesigns were necessary because Bush and Obama low-balled the funding (they only gave it 1/3 of the funding it needed) which caused them to have redesign it to fly on a shoestring budget. Procrastination is expensive.
They need to stop with these designs. Come up with something that doesn't make so much space debris. There over 500,000 objects of space junk that we created around the earths orbit. Are you telling me that since the 68 years since we first launched rockets into space, that they haven't figured out a way to cut down on this. At this rate in the next 50 years it will make it impossible to travel anywhere safely outside our orbit
@crystalrush Tell me, 68 years after Columbus discovered the New World, what ships were they using to get there? America is making incredible progress given the fact that NASA gets crumbs off the floor compared to the funding we give to the Armed Forces. But you are correct. It is time for a change of space transportation systems. The transition will be gradual, but it is apparent that it has already started. The next decade is going to be very exciting indeed. God bless the United States!
The stupidity of my fellow countrymen never fails to amaze me. Obama didn't end the Space Shuttle Program. It completed it's 30 year mission. Also, in case you idiots haven't noticed, Russia is the only manned space program in town right now. Maybe if we weren't so busy pissing on each other with faux issues like abortion, teacher pay and the Endowment for the Arts, we'd have real space transportation system by now. Now go sit in a corner and think about how stupid you sound.
I hated Obama's decision to scrap the Constellation Program. But looking back on it, I think it was the right move. NASA can do so much more if they focus on one thing instead of two (send people into deep space and going to the space station). From what I understand, Obama wants private companies to build rockets that can take our astronauts into orbit, while NASA focus' on deep space missions. While I disagree with his choice not to go back to the moon and it hurts to have to wait a lot longe
@GenoKatz4 The Moon mission is not cancelled...not at all... it was the Bush Mission to the Moon that was cancelled.. going to the Moon requires a rocket or a series of rockets that can carry a lander and without a rocket the Bush Moon mission program was pointless.
With the C3P from NASA the Obama administration have made a clear statement that America is going back into space exploration beyond LEO.With SpaceX's Falcon Heavy and a 130 metric ton rocket for NASA is either the Moon or Mars next
I know it hurts for some conspiracy theorist, but we landed on the moon. Yes it's more fun to say " we never landed on the moon our government faked it" unfortunatly for them its not the case and all those astronauts that landed on the moon are the luckiest sons of bitches in the world. btw i never knew of a group of guys that enjoyed when someone fakes something, does same applies to their girl? lol
@NASAHOAX gotta give you props for responding in a respectful way instead of youtube trashing me. We all have the rite to our own opinions and thats a good argument. But, I respectfully disagree
all for naught. we chunk it down the toilet and our supremacy in space to hitch rides with the russkies like a third world class nation. JFK must be rolling in his grave.
And commie obammy is patting himself on his back for destroying our space supremacy and heavy lift program. JFK is not rolling in his grave, he is about to burst forth from the ground and call for the AMERICAN people (as opposed to kenyan people) to take back this once proud nation and return it to the glory of what it once was!
@amourdutigre You are grossly misinformed. NASA is receiving an additional ~6 billion USD. The only thing changing is where the money is being spent. Ares was far over budget, instead Orion will be launched using a SDLV.
@SakuraHaruta - An additional 6 billion is nowhere near enough to get us out of Low Earth Orbit. We're also spending money on designing and creating a new Heavy-Lift Rocket WITH NOWHERE TO GO since we're not going to the Moon and Mars is still 15-20 years away at best (more like 35 on NASA's current budget). Now THAT'S a huge waste of money.
@A86 That's absurd. We have plenty of places to go.Asteroids are much more practical than Mars. The Earth Moon Lagrange point is a great place to research long term deep space exposure before we get to mars. Would you not buy a car just because you haven't planned the family summer vacation yet?
@monokhem - The problem is there no way to get there with the Orion spacecraft and the SLS rocket. One or two Orions won't support humans for the amount of time it takes to reach an asteroid. You need a long-ship for the Orion to attach to in order to have enough air, food, supplies and fuel. The Orion can only support humans for up to 45 days without being attached to the ISS. Or do you think Obama honestly knows more about spaceflight than NASA and Lockheed-Martin scientists?
@monokhem - (think along the lines of that ship called "The Messiah" from "Deep Impact" when I say "long-ship") Also, even if you want to go there we cannot because no money has been allocated to even build the SLS rocket to lift the Orion off the ground. Let alone a long-ship that the Orion could attach to to get there. The small increase Obama did give NASA is not dedicated for the SLS, most of it is for NASA to hand out to SpaceX and other private companies.
@A86 You're wrong. The money for Cots and CCdev doesn't ad up to 5% of NASA's total budget. The SLS isn't funded yet because the deseign isn't in and there a budget fights going on. You don't need the SLS to get the orion off the ground anyway. You can lift it with a falcon heavy.
You were just complaining that we were spending money on SLS and now you are upset because we aren't? Your complaining that we don't have a modual to get where? Seriously you are all over the map.
@monokhem - You do know NASA's budget isn't all Shuttle? The Shuttle gets less than $10 billion of NASA's annual $18 billion budget. Of the funding increase Obama wants to give at least $700 million of it (likely more) has to go to private spacers. Obama is only giving around a $5 billion increase overall. That's not enough to build SLS. Obama wants that rocket off the ground by 2015 and the design isn't even finished? Do you have any idea how behind schedule it will be?
@monokhem - And once off the ground where will it go?
"You can lift it with a falcon heavy"
Firstly, the Falcon Heavy is WAY too powerful for a simple Orion trip. It's just using an 18 wheeler just to drive to work. The Orion just needs a rocket in the 50-60,000 lb. to LEO class. Secondly, you can't just slap the Orion on top of the Falcon Heavy, the Orion would need some redesign to fit on top of it properly. Falcon Heavy would suffer from the same problem as SLS - where would it go?
@monokhem - If you no longer want to go to the Moon where the hell are going to go? You can't fly to Mars in the Orion. I wouldn't risk flying far past the Moon either in an Orion on its own as you'll be cramped in a small space for months with only enough supplies for 45 days and you'll be constantly assaulted by the solar wind the entire time.
I'm upset because the SLS isn't designed by Congress rather than engineers and because it has no destination and Orion has no way of getting to a BEO.
@A86 You severly overestimate the amount of work that goes into a service modual. It's complex for a regular endevour, but compared to developing a capsule or a HLV it is small potatoes. We could throw that together in a year easy. Bigelow Moduals will be available that will be cheaper than anything we develop to serve as extra room that will protect against Solar wind.
Congresses SLS isn't the only game in town. The Falcon Heavy will be able to launch all of this stuff at a thousand per pound.
@monokhem - Service module? You mean for the Orion? I think the Orion SM is already ready. The Bigelow Aerospace stations don't need much protection from the solar wind as they're protected by Earth's magnetic field being in LEO. The solar wind is hundreds to thousands of times more powerful once you go beyond the Van Allen Belts and the tail end of the Earth's magnetosphere. That's what any crew traveling to an asteroid would have to put up with. Bigelow Aerospace stations won't be enough.
@monokhem - Falcon Heavy launch at a thousand per lb? The projected cost of a Falcon 9 launch is about $56 million for a human mission. At being able to lift a max of 23,000 lbs into LEO that's over $2000/lb. per launch. It's cheaper than the Shuttle but still much higher than earlier projected cost. I would expect the price to go higher before 2013/2014 (the earliest realistic date for a human launch), if for nothing other than inflation.
@monokhem - The other problem I have with the SLS is that it's underpowered. It's simply not powerful enough to lift any significant amount of weight to BEO. The thing doesn't even lift as much as the Saturn V rocket. The Ares V was much more ambitious in that it could lift at least 404,000 lbs. to LEO if not more. The SLS lifts 6,000 lbs. less than the post-Apollo 14 Saturn V could. The Ares V was made to lift at least 158,000 or so lbs to the Moon and around 100,000 lbs to Mars.
@monokhem - With a lifting capability of only 100,000 lbs. to the Moon at most with the SLS (even less to Mars, probably around 60,000 lbs. or so) it's more difficult to set up a base or colony on Mars or the Moon and you can't lift as large of space refueling depots to Lagrange Points as you could potentially do with the Ares V. The Ares I and V's upper stage potential issues could be solved with either an air-start SSME or a 20-25% more powerful J-2X engine.
@monokhem - The Falcon Heavy is fine for what it does but when it comes to lifting heavy cargo and equipment to BEO or fuel depots to Lagrange Points it would be even more underpowered than the SLS. The Falcon Heavy is fine though for lifting moderately heavy space stations like the ones Bigelow Aerospace is constructing.
@A86 Yes, but you can launch three falcon heavies for the price of the space shuttle. Capsule/ service modual, lander, bigelow. There's your moon mission or your phobos mission. you could put extra fuel on the Lander's FH. And if you don't like that The Falcon X and Falcon X Heavy will be along in another decade even if SLS isn't flying by then.
@monokhem - "but you can launch three falcon heavies for the price of the space shuttle"
Probably more than that (the Shuttle cost up to $1.2 billion flight, you could probably get around 8-10 Falcon Heavy launches for the price of one Shuttle). The problem is SpaceX and Bigelow Aerospace have shown no active desire to go to the Moon or Mars and have nothing in the pipeline to get humans there any time soon. No lander in the planning, no nothing. There's little if any profit to be made
@monokhem - in going to the Moon or Mars other than maybe selling tickets for lunar flybys in the future. That's why Elon Musk has expressly left the BEO stuff up to NASA and is admittedly focused on LEO flight (and he's right that it's time for NASA to leave the LEO stuff to someone else).
I like SpaceX and Bigelow along with NASA but I think some people are being unrealistic with the former two and want them to do things they themselves aren't very interested in.
@A86 You're wrong. Elon Musk isn't planning a spaceX mission to Mars but he has on numerous occasions proclaimed that he would like his hardware to take part in a NASA mission. He has said that the dragon can do anything the Orion can do, a blatant bid to get his hardware into consideration for a mars mission. Why
develop landing with propelent if he isn't interested in landing off of Earth?
The Bigelow space station is being concidered for L1, which is just as dangerous as a trip to mars.
@monokhem - Wanting his hardware on NASA missions is not the same as wanting a full-blown independent SpaceX mission to the Moon or Mars or wanting SpaceX to get into the business of sending people to the Moon and Mars. Mr. Musk has stated at most he plans maybe private flybys to the Moon and Mars some day, but not scientific missions to land and set up bases. This shouldn't be surprising what rational company will dump billions of dollars into something that won't be profitable for decades?
@monokhem - This is why SpaceX has no manned lunar or martian landers in the works or even in planning stages. Same with Bigelow and Burt Rutan's company.
"Why develop landing with propelent"
Because he plans for the Dragon to land like the Soyuz, Shenzhou and the planned Russian PPTS capsule with retrorockets instead of relying solely on parachutes. Being able to land on land is much more convenient. There are no plans for a SpaceX human lunar lander or interplanetary ship.
It's mostly NASA asking Bigelow to provide them a station capable of supporting humans there, not something Bigelow up and decided to do on its own. Bigelow has nothing in the works to land humans on another heavenly body. Which, again, isn't surprising as there is no money in it. It's hard enough trying to make LEO missions profitable. Since governments don't rely on profiteering that's why they leave colonization missions up to the government.
@A86 Bigelow would never try to land some one on another world because he makes living space. I'm sure he would be happy to provide living space to some one as they went to a new world. If some one was going to be there he would be happy to put his muduals on any body he could.
That's my point is that these companies will provide these things to NASA at predictable rates. Of Course NASA will be in charge of the mission.
I'm perplexed. I could understand how the space shuttle would roll and arch but how does this summer thin looking spacecraft begin it's arch. I'm asking cuz I'm not sure. I don't see any fins or anything like that which would change it's trajectory(sp?). Isn't the solid fuel rocket just pushing it up?
Too bad we cant take all the money spent on producing idiotic television shows and direct it to the space program. Space science should not be dependent on the whims of small minded legislators.
@amourdutigre I like how you completely dodged the question. What polices and laws has Obama enacted that are communist? And anti-American?...why would somebody who is anti-American go and study the American constitution?
DOEZ NOT COMPUTTEEE!!!111
I don't like Obama, but there are actual legitimate things to criticize him on. Things that actually hold water and you can make a real argument for. The argument that he is a communist Muslim who magically somehow got to power is stupid.
He is an anti-American communo-islamic dumbass and if you can't see it then you are the blind one here. Fact one...commie obammy is doing his best to socialize medicine. Sorry, but there is no right to medical care in the constitution. Second, he and his ugly wife have on many occasions in the past have put down America. Lastly, (for this discussion) he travels the world and APOLOGIZES to every tin-hat dumbass nation for "wrongs" that this wonderful nation supposidly has done.
@amourdutigre The healthcare bill is so unbelievably weak it hardly does anything. If Obama was a socialist wouldn't he of put single payer into the bill?. He didn't even make a attempt to argue for the single payer option, now why would a hardcore communist not try to get a bill through that nationalizes part of the private sector?. Mhmmm...Doesnt make sense does it?. You guy's didn't even get the public option!.
@kojimapie and the health care bill, takes my right to NOT buy insurance away (UNCOSTITUTIONAL). He wants to ensure every useless eater and drug addict out there. Sorry, I do not feel any deep seated need to pay taxes to let welfare bums and dope addicts get health care. Then on top of it, the SOB wants "death panels" (end of life counsoling) to convince hard working people who are near the end of their lives that they do not need expensive treatments (so dope addicts can have theirs).
@amourdutigre Lmao you really believe there are death panels? I mean, seriously..you actually believe that? I should just render everything you say as null because of that. Dude you need a serious fact check, not everything Glenn beck or the drudge report says is true.
@amourdutigre Its in your best interest to pay taxes instead of private healthcare companies, instead of the thousands of dollars you pay for a healthcare plan now you would be paying a tax increase of 3% what was proposed. That saves you thousands of dollars! plus, with a public option in insurance, you would be GUARANTEED the healthcare and wouldn't be able to be turned down because of pre-existing conditions. You retard you rallying against something that helps you
@kojimapie You are the stupid retard, dumbfuck! You are just one more fat, lazy libtard that wants to take what is mine because you are too stupid fat lazy to make it yourself! I pay for the best health care available, You pay taxes if you want to provide all of the stupid worthless eaters if you wish, but I WILL KEEP MY GUNS, MONEY, and HEALTHCARE. You stupid obama dick sucker can keep the change.
@amourdutigre I'm not a liberal either before you start that crap. Private insurance companies only motive is profit, they don't care about giving you healthcare, that's why thousands and thousands of Americans are refused there insurance for crap reasons like pre-existing conditions and thus are slowly dying. A government insurance option guarantees by LAW, that's L-A-W, that they have to treat you, and if not you can take them to court, because their motive is healthcare not profit.
And it is nice to know that you cannot hide the fact that you are a worshipper of the communio-islamic kenyan dumbass who pretends to be an American. Your posts give you away. And you know damn-well what NPR is. If you do not, then you truly are ignorant. I am (as millions of others) working to convince our reps to defund NPR.
@amourdutigre i don't no what NPR is because i don't live in the US so i couldn't give a fuck what you do to them. Me not living in the US pretty much sends your idea that im just following him down the shitter. I've already told you i don't like him anyway for real reasons i can show to be true. You've not attempted to refute any of my points iv made, you just keep coming up with the same bs rhetoric which pretty much equates to sticking your fingers in your ears and going LALALA
hm... That rocket looks kinda cool... Kinda stylish...
elpelu123 1 day ago
this rocket was a total disaster,it was expensive,it had that giant escape tower on top
TheHotelMoxa 1 day ago
Nice video steal, at least upload with some resolution...THIEF
VirginianHighlander 2 days ago 2
You'd think you'd see at least some intelligent discussion about this flight; what it's goals were, etc., Instead some guy living in his mom's basement holds forth with a 6,000 word essay about nothing!
jln55 2 days ago
it says wed, not weed, oh my...what i am thinking?
bartghog 1 week ago
• SandustanBrasov
Thus, the universal vehicle will contains: 1).-the body strenght frame; 2).-the thermonuclear controlled reactor; 3).-coolling devices; 4).-reactive electromagnetic motors for drive force and for orientation. At this vehicle, with the steering-wheel or separate commands aid, we direct motors' traction force on any displacement way. The possibilitiys of adaptation and using such vehicles are unlimited in any domain: transport, energy, mining, agriculture,building, dwellings...
sandustanBrasov 2 weeks ago
@sandustanBrasov >----> hey butthead, this is not the place for your dissertation...geeez, we only want some comments, not a freaking book! 8/
carysatch 1 week ago
@sandustanBrasov, please get your autism checked.
TubularTones 3 days ago
SandustanBrasov
The magnetic field produced by superconductor coil, is transformed in electromagnetic field which can evolve in space and will produce the reaction force. The superconductive coil will be supplyed with permanet current at 35...40 kV. This motor is an antigravitational motor, but this will constitute the principal device- indispensable -in the realization the magnetic trap for the thermonuclear controlled reactor!
sandustanBrasov 2 weeks ago
• SandustanBrasov
The reactive electromagnetic motor isn't one invention, it is 100% impression of one part from the schema in the tomb stone from Palenque; which is not sculptured or carved, but is pressed in one die, and mean that it was not performed of the primitive man! The motor has: superconductor coil for magnetic field producing; magnetic nozzles, magnetic circuits for variation of magnetic permeability; dielectric rings for changing electric permitivity.
sandustanBrasov 2 weeks ago
• SandustanBrasov
Mikhael angel showed him thermonuclear controlled reactor namely:"And my spirit hasbeen hiden and me Enoh saw the light of those core.Something as an ice stones house arisen and among ice pieces hadbeen alive fire flames.And my spirit beheld a circle which surround with fire that house from its fourth corner to these alive fire rivers which had enclosed the house.And around it they hadbeen seraphs, cherubs and ophamins, these are eternally awake and watch over the glory(ship)"
sandustanBrasov 2 weeks ago
SandustanBrasov
Heavenly vehicles with thermonuclear controlled reactor were made and exist of thousands years ago.Nikola Tesla was not mad and the Holy Scriptures deceive not. In the Hebrew apocryphal "Jubilees book" it says about patriarch Enoh that he was with God's angels 7 jubilees(49 years) and they, from a great heavenly ship's board showed him all what exist on Earth and in Skys, this now over 4300 years.
sandustanBrasov 2 weeks ago
SandustanBrasov
I had thinked a proposal of realisation to one universal vehicle, good on Earth but and in cosmos. The source of energy is a thermonuclear controlled reactor, and the traction is realized through a set of reactive electromagnetic motors. The realization of these, impose a revision and elucidation to some parts from the actual science, which is strangled of the theoretical physics with a series of metaphysical laws and principles.
sandustanBrasov 2 weeks ago
• SandustanBrasov
The presenter of theoretical physics and scientific-fantastical scenarious know not that in the Holy Scriptures is speak about the heavenly world and about heavenly ships. The Jews od 2000...3500 years ago named them: pear of fire, the cloud, glory of the God, angel, fire cart, fire whirl, a.s.o. In Iezechil's book it describes the appearance, the landing and the starting of a big cosmical vehicles. Iezechil describes the landing train as a four alive creatures group.
sandustanBrasov 2 weeks ago
@sandustanBrasov stop reading after the jew crap...
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SandustanBrasov
In present we try different vehicles in every medium(submarine, ships, motor cars, trains, airplanes and rockets), and they don't express an optimum garantee neiter for present nor for future. I follow of 50 years the realization of the russians and americans the penetration of the man in cosmos, but the realised progress is not good and sure, but very expensive, very heavy and dangerous.
sandustanBrasov 2 weeks ago
I have to dislike this, because the launch was just about as fake as possible. Nothing that was to be built for this rocket was built at the time. It was pretty much the world's largest Estes rocket, something to show the media to feign progress. It was useless in that it did not test anything except for the shape, and with that, not even well. I guess they tested the stand?
dbirchle 2 weeks ago
Is it supposed to just tumble out of control after separation?
brax69 3 weeks ago
That thing looks incredibly unstable.
deathrooster14 4 weeks ago
Ahhhh
240p. We meet again.
Ferrariman601 1 month ago 18
@Ferrariman601 I got 360 :I
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@AirSOFTLOVER12 Lets discover who is what here. You probably are familiar with the word "video" because of your Play Station, because you apparently missed so much school little one that instead of using a vocabulary you choose vulgarity, and nor do you know how to comprehend what you read the first time through. So, sonny boy, I suggest that you put down your pea-shooter and game controller for one minute to read my comment again. But I doubt you will. `(ಠvಠ)'
AHGlasher 1 month ago
@AHGlasher So first off I don't even understand why you chose to bring video games into the comments, and for the vulgarity, yeah, I cursed. It's a word. Who cares. And for the video game controller part, Yeah I built my custom computer so I don't use video game controllers, and I don't play a lot of video games anyway so where the hell you got this from I have no clue. And my pea-shooter? Excuse me?
AirSOFTLOVER12 1 month ago
@AirSOFTLOVER12 You still haven't re-read my original comment? I'm not surprised, I predicted that. I'm trying to figure out why you don't want to read it. Did it go right over your head? Is that the reason for your misdirection? Anything to avoid the point I guess.
p.s. You think putting together a computer system is a big deal? Maybe 20-25 years ago. But now who would call that a bragging point? Ha, ha, you go ahead though.
AHGlasher 1 month ago
@AHGlasher I really don't care why, but you're sounding like an arrogant asshole.
Just sayin'.
ShdowSora 4 weeks ago
@ShdowSora First off, after I mentioned about: " While money spent on the space program has at least a $2-$3 value return for every dollar spent.", and more, Airsoft went on to say that I deny any benefit arose from the space program while insulting my intelligence with vulgarity. So, on his level, less the vulgarity, I suggested that he reread my comment . So rather than admitting he had he chose to go in another direction and play. I responded in like. Not arrogantly or vulgarly. Take care :c)
AHGlasher 2 weeks ago 3
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AHGlasher 1 month ago
@USAmipitarypower Inappropriate...
Applekothari 1 month ago
fuck china
USAmilitarypower 1 month ago
and what after separation ?
eromadrol 1 month ago
I miss the space shuttle program
foweyrocks103 1 month ago
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rigamortis1066 1 month ago
"Now passing Mach 2"
DAAAAAMMMMMMNNN
louielouie11224 2 months ago
Or just reality!
s3fredo 2 months ago
USA back to the PAST!
s3fredo 2 months ago
NASA, INVEST SOME FOOKING MONEY TO UPGRADE YOUR 240p CAMERAS!!!!
biohazard968 2 months ago
I see thats a space shuttle launch pad
64MojoMan 3 months ago
@64MojoMan its gone now.. they dismantles PAD B's tower, it will be rebuilt for commercial space.
mrFalconlem 3 months ago
@mrFalconlem Were any parts of it Re-furbished and used again
64MojoMan 3 months ago
Skip to 2:20
Fourteen88SoCal 3 months ago
belnomer.ru/
artdizayne1 3 months ago
Don't scroll down in a science video on this site.
meteor4163 4 months ago
@meteor4163 Yeah, within a page or so you'll go from "scientific advancement as new rocket launches" to "HITLER DID 9/11!!!" or "Wake up sheeple, the UFO chem-trails are controlling our minds!"
RoboCorpse3000 3 months ago 9
@RoboCorpse3000 you summed it up so perfectly THANK YOU
Zirc0nium69 1 month ago
Epic fail, the upper stage did not work out. Back to the Moon, oh yeah. We believe in NASA.
GustavCalder 4 months ago
@GustavCalder Not to the moon, to a NEO.
lolvks 4 months ago
@GustavCalder Upper stage was a simulator only. Lower stage was a Space Shuttle SRB with a dummy segment.
Maupin001 3 months ago
@GustavCalder You are stupid as fuck.
hardstyle905 1 month ago
I like how it curves because of the acceleration of gravity pulling it down
DuckHunt20 4 months ago
@DuckHunt20 yes, gravity turns are pretty awesome.
Briggie 3 months ago
@Briggie indeed
DuckHunt20 3 months ago
Build a moon hotel dammit you people don't listen.
omega4chimp 4 months ago
Did the second stage fire? I didn't notice it.
EEEL123 4 months ago
@EEEL123 no this was a test launch and it was supposed to fire the 1st stage only.
ozzymuzzy246 4 months ago
Pity that NASA must cancel the Ares-Programme, because of no money from the Government :-(
Now NASA has to book space flights at the russians.
ProvokantX 5 months ago
@ProvokantX Really? NASA is going to get 18.7 billion dollars for 2012. What the fuck are you talking about "no money from the government". Sure, they deserve a lot more, but it's better than nothing.
hardstyle905 1 month ago
Look Im no rocket scientist but Im 60 I have been seeing this type of lift off since school days, this is crap, you cant convince me that this is the only way of getting into space, this is a show for us poor subserviant dumb humans that go to work and have loans so that we can life in a system that hollywood has dictacted to us on how we should live, if this does'nt work well the bible will, Lambs to slaughter , we are being screwed, we are slaves to a system of greed. Im not a nut case .
critchley3819 5 months ago
@critchley3819 yeah you really are...
hamleyn 5 months ago
@hamleyn OK then.start debating or are you just a lame brain you did not have many words in your defence, If you think that what I have said is nonsence than tell me your thoughts, Im ready to listen . come on give it a go, you might suprise yourself.
critchley3819 5 months ago
@critchley3819 @AHGlasher put it best. But if you think there is a better way of getting into space, why don't you go and find it? Going it to space is all about man's curiosity and ingenuity of furthering the species. It's exciting, enthralling, exhilarating and, for us average joes, inspiring to see the human race extending itself beyond its current boundaries. Instead of bitching and moaning, you should be revelling in our genius.
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AHGlasher 4 months ago
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@hamleyn Don't waste your breath. He, like so many others will never get it. They perfer to think that money is better spent on dead-end give-away programs that have a zero return value. While money spent on the space program has at least a $2-$3 value return for every dollar spent. To them, in other words, two free six packs in the hand is worth all the technology, science, value added and jobs gained in the bush.
AHGlasher 4 months ago
@critchley3819 yes you are.
baillou2 5 months ago
@critchley3819 No, you aren't a rocket scientist. Nor do you have a grip. Good luck and please stop going off your prozac. 8c)
AHGlasher 4 months ago
Yey, it happened on my bday! XD :) special lol
JuhosAlbert 5 months ago
No more flights into space.
you do not have money...he, he
ivan35292 6 months ago
@ivan35292 We do.
hardstyle905 1 month ago
What's hapened with rocket?
Yurielkafa 6 months ago
@Yurielkafa Nothing happened to it, it was only a first stage test. The second stage was a dummy and had no rocket engines. After the first stage burned out, the two stages separated and fell back to earth.
wewd 6 months ago
yes, finally, nasa gets rid of the 30 year old shuttle, to explore new endevors beyond our earth
megabrontes123 6 months ago
that was LEGIT!!!
FcdFAN13 6 months ago
Thats what it looks like when i get a boner
RobskipperPSN 7 months ago
-Zombie horde coming- "What am I gonna do?" -See's a rocket- "YAY! I can escape with that!" -Looks inside the rocket- Sign: Made In China. "NOOOOOO!!!!!"
Binpham123 7 months ago
THE SEARCH FOR NYAN CAT BEGINS!!!!!
xXPuppyPowuhXx 7 months ago 48
HEY OBAMA! you missed ouy you idiot! We need programs like this!!!
mackjsm 7 months ago 2
All this brilliant tech and the US have to throw it away as the debt for Iraq and Afghanistan plus consumer credit starts to bankrupt the country. Soon Baikonur will be the only place available to send manned missions to space- what a waste- blame George W. Obama's only covering the checks "W" wrote out. Such a fall from the heady Apollo days
andywarh0l 7 months ago
i want one for my birthday
tonkapoplol 7 months ago
What a waste of money!
paulmwebb1 7 months ago
lol,, im an angry physicist too. (sometimes)
astrotrain101 7 months ago
Obama killed this program. This test flight is all we'll ever see. Obama is a disaster for manned space flight. He killed it. That's change we don't believe in!
ArmyFtBall 8 months ago
@ArmyFtBall actually it had nothing to do with Obama. Ares I was a terrible design and would have cost a fortune. Numerous redesigns of Orion because of the low mass fraction required to reach orbit, tons of money to develop 5 segment solid first stage and the J2-X engine for the second stage were all unaffordable. Also an Air Force study concluded there was a 100% probability of the crew being killed during an abort in the first 90 seconds because the exhaust would melt the chutes.
LonghornPhysicist 7 months ago
@LonghornPhysicist - Ares I has a recurring cost of around $138 million. That's significantly cheaper than Shuttle recurring costs (over $400 million a flight on cheap flights). Much of the money spent so far was on infrastructure changes, not just adding another segment. The redesigns were necessary because Bush and Obama low-balled the funding (they only gave it 1/3 of the funding it needed) which caused them to have redesign it to fly on a shoestring budget. Procrastination is expensive.
A86 7 months ago
@ArmyFtBall try to know something about what you are talking about before you go and spout garbage and blaming Obama for everything.
LonghornPhysicist 7 months ago
NASA rocks
CLluck1 8 months ago
Is this at launch pad 39a or b? because there are those towers around the actual launch pad and the rocket itself
McChuugy 8 months ago
@McChuugy I think its 39b
Boooooeing 8 months ago
@McChuugy it's 39b
TheVeneRock 8 months ago
i love the BOOM sound when the engine ignites. amazing.
hardstyle905 8 months ago
They need to stop with these designs. Come up with something that doesn't make so much space debris. There over 500,000 objects of space junk that we created around the earths orbit. Are you telling me that since the 68 years since we first launched rockets into space, that they haven't figured out a way to cut down on this. At this rate in the next 50 years it will make it impossible to travel anywhere safely outside our orbit
crystalrush 8 months ago
@crystalrush i agree. even satellites occasinally get damaged from the debris. it's a mess up there.
hardstyle905 8 months ago
@crystalrush Tell me, 68 years after Columbus discovered the New World, what ships were they using to get there? America is making incredible progress given the fact that NASA gets crumbs off the floor compared to the funding we give to the Armed Forces. But you are correct. It is time for a change of space transportation systems. The transition will be gradual, but it is apparent that it has already started. The next decade is going to be very exciting indeed. God bless the United States!
StickGuitarMan 7 months ago
But will it blend?
StoicalCookie 8 months ago 46
@StoicalCookie If you have a blender big enough lol
BlazingAngels220099 6 months ago
@StoicalCookie Well, that's the question! XD
aalexnikoytube 5 months ago
@StoicalCookie
wowkamakone 4 months ago
Hey obama! SCREW YOU looks like the rocket went agains your approval!
mackjsm 8 months ago
For some reason this reminds me of long night of solace in halo reach
rhinogek 8 months ago
It looks like a rabbit
Sup3rShann0n 8 months ago
The stupidity of my fellow countrymen never fails to amaze me. Obama didn't end the Space Shuttle Program. It completed it's 30 year mission. Also, in case you idiots haven't noticed, Russia is the only manned space program in town right now. Maybe if we weren't so busy pissing on each other with faux issues like abortion, teacher pay and the Endowment for the Arts, we'd have real space transportation system by now. Now go sit in a corner and think about how stupid you sound.
hostile177 8 months ago
@hostile177 This one of the best comments i have ever seen
spacegeek5 8 months ago
look at the launch tower... 500 million dollars... used one time
SquirrelFromGradLife 8 months ago
who dis likes something like this. they must have missed the one next to it.
mysteriouspainpoet 9 months ago
I hated Obama's decision to scrap the Constellation Program. But looking back on it, I think it was the right move. NASA can do so much more if they focus on one thing instead of two (send people into deep space and going to the space station). From what I understand, Obama wants private companies to build rockets that can take our astronauts into orbit, while NASA focus' on deep space missions. While I disagree with his choice not to go back to the moon and it hurts to have to wait a lot longe
GenoKatz4 9 months ago
@GenoKatz4 The Moon mission is not cancelled...not at all... it was the Bush Mission to the Moon that was cancelled.. going to the Moon requires a rocket or a series of rockets that can carry a lander and without a rocket the Bush Moon mission program was pointless.
With the C3P from NASA the Obama administration have made a clear statement that America is going back into space exploration beyond LEO.With SpaceX's Falcon Heavy and a 130 metric ton rocket for NASA is either the Moon or Mars next
SquirrelFromGradLife 8 months ago
I know it hurts for some conspiracy theorist, but we landed on the moon. Yes it's more fun to say " we never landed on the moon our government faked it" unfortunatly for them its not the case and all those astronauts that landed on the moon are the luckiest sons of bitches in the world. btw i never knew of a group of guys that enjoyed when someone fakes something, does same applies to their girl? lol
Alexfan14 9 months ago
quando não tiverem nada importante pra comentar, por favor não comentem besteira.
TheNick0461 9 months ago
what's the whole China firewall/censor thing about?
depcon2 9 months ago
thank obama for ending such a great space program...
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Freedomloveandtruth 9 months ago
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Futurecop2012A 9 months ago
what the hell do all these comments have to do with the video? damn yall, get laid or something
A4moondoggy 9 months ago
i love these conspiracy guys, i wonder what else they do in their spare time. watch plan 9?
A4moondoggy 9 months ago
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NASAHOAX 9 months ago
that fort lauderdale
DKSeanboy 10 months ago
what are those three giant antenna surrounding the launch platform for?
brianmenendez 10 months ago
@brianmenendez
Lightning protection.
blablubb12345 10 months ago
watch?v=BnKlHgDBjUI
APOLLO WAS A FAKE
NASAHOAX 10 months ago
@NASAHOAX Yea! We never landed on Luna, I mean, how could we? We would need some sort of a Rocket or something for that.
mrthebillman 9 months ago
@mrthebillman Man never landed on the moon buzzboy
NASAHOAX 9 months ago
@NASAHOAX piss off, we did, we have proof we did, why would we fake it 9 times, and oh yeah, we did!
GladiusDidimus 9 months ago
@GladiusDidimus Good programed answer. They did because they said they did. LOL buzzboy
Better be nice or santa will fill your stocking with coal. They went those 9 times but man wasn't on board.
NASAHOAX 9 months ago
@NASAHOAX gotta give you props for responding in a respectful way instead of youtube trashing me. We all have the rite to our own opinions and thats a good argument. But, I respectfully disagree
GladiusDidimus 9 months ago
Oops. I accidentally walked into a trailer park. Bye.
cmpilot 10 months ago
Amour your a freak buddy,go to some other site,I'me here to watch something cool,not listen to you,your pathetic
Yukonexplorer1 10 months ago
damm you obongo you sick freak,you took my moon mission away!
guitarnashelter 10 months ago
The launch starts at 2:25
Dornier335A 10 months ago 77
@Dornier335A I will always read the comments first from now.
nadoeloiskat 9 months ago
LOL!
ssfastlane 8 months ago
all for naught. we chunk it down the toilet and our supremacy in space to hitch rides with the russkies like a third world class nation. JFK must be rolling in his grave.
uzimodem 10 months ago
@uzimodem
And commie obammy is patting himself on his back for destroying our space supremacy and heavy lift program. JFK is not rolling in his grave, he is about to burst forth from the ground and call for the AMERICAN people (as opposed to kenyan people) to take back this once proud nation and return it to the glory of what it once was!
amourdutigre 10 months ago
@amourdutigre :if only JFK were here. sickening we have fallen so fast
uzimodem 10 months ago
@amourdutigre You are grossly misinformed. NASA is receiving an additional ~6 billion USD. The only thing changing is where the money is being spent. Ares was far over budget, instead Orion will be launched using a SDLV.
SakuraHaruta 10 months ago
@SakuraHaruta - An additional 6 billion is nowhere near enough to get us out of Low Earth Orbit. We're also spending money on designing and creating a new Heavy-Lift Rocket WITH NOWHERE TO GO since we're not going to the Moon and Mars is still 15-20 years away at best (more like 35 on NASA's current budget). Now THAT'S a huge waste of money.
A86 7 months ago
@A86 That's absurd. We have plenty of places to go.Asteroids are much more practical than Mars. The Earth Moon Lagrange point is a great place to research long term deep space exposure before we get to mars. Would you not buy a car just because you haven't planned the family summer vacation yet?
monokhem 6 months ago
@monokhem - The problem is there no way to get there with the Orion spacecraft and the SLS rocket. One or two Orions won't support humans for the amount of time it takes to reach an asteroid. You need a long-ship for the Orion to attach to in order to have enough air, food, supplies and fuel. The Orion can only support humans for up to 45 days without being attached to the ISS. Or do you think Obama honestly knows more about spaceflight than NASA and Lockheed-Martin scientists?
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - (think along the lines of that ship called "The Messiah" from "Deep Impact" when I say "long-ship") Also, even if you want to go there we cannot because no money has been allocated to even build the SLS rocket to lift the Orion off the ground. Let alone a long-ship that the Orion could attach to to get there. The small increase Obama did give NASA is not dedicated for the SLS, most of it is for NASA to hand out to SpaceX and other private companies.
A86 6 months ago
@A86 You're wrong. The money for Cots and CCdev doesn't ad up to 5% of NASA's total budget. The SLS isn't funded yet because the deseign isn't in and there a budget fights going on. You don't need the SLS to get the orion off the ground anyway. You can lift it with a falcon heavy.
You were just complaining that we were spending money on SLS and now you are upset because we aren't? Your complaining that we don't have a modual to get where? Seriously you are all over the map.
monokhem 6 months ago
@monokhem - You do know NASA's budget isn't all Shuttle? The Shuttle gets less than $10 billion of NASA's annual $18 billion budget. Of the funding increase Obama wants to give at least $700 million of it (likely more) has to go to private spacers. Obama is only giving around a $5 billion increase overall. That's not enough to build SLS. Obama wants that rocket off the ground by 2015 and the design isn't even finished? Do you have any idea how behind schedule it will be?
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - And once off the ground where will it go?
"You can lift it with a falcon heavy"
Firstly, the Falcon Heavy is WAY too powerful for a simple Orion trip. It's just using an 18 wheeler just to drive to work. The Orion just needs a rocket in the 50-60,000 lb. to LEO class. Secondly, you can't just slap the Orion on top of the Falcon Heavy, the Orion would need some redesign to fit on top of it properly. Falcon Heavy would suffer from the same problem as SLS - where would it go?
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - If you no longer want to go to the Moon where the hell are going to go? You can't fly to Mars in the Orion. I wouldn't risk flying far past the Moon either in an Orion on its own as you'll be cramped in a small space for months with only enough supplies for 45 days and you'll be constantly assaulted by the solar wind the entire time.
I'm upset because the SLS isn't designed by Congress rather than engineers and because it has no destination and Orion has no way of getting to a BEO.
A86 6 months ago
@A86 You severly overestimate the amount of work that goes into a service modual. It's complex for a regular endevour, but compared to developing a capsule or a HLV it is small potatoes. We could throw that together in a year easy. Bigelow Moduals will be available that will be cheaper than anything we develop to serve as extra room that will protect against Solar wind.
Congresses SLS isn't the only game in town. The Falcon Heavy will be able to launch all of this stuff at a thousand per pound.
monokhem 6 months ago
@monokhem - Service module? You mean for the Orion? I think the Orion SM is already ready. The Bigelow Aerospace stations don't need much protection from the solar wind as they're protected by Earth's magnetic field being in LEO. The solar wind is hundreds to thousands of times more powerful once you go beyond the Van Allen Belts and the tail end of the Earth's magnetosphere. That's what any crew traveling to an asteroid would have to put up with. Bigelow Aerospace stations won't be enough.
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - Falcon Heavy launch at a thousand per lb? The projected cost of a Falcon 9 launch is about $56 million for a human mission. At being able to lift a max of 23,000 lbs into LEO that's over $2000/lb. per launch. It's cheaper than the Shuttle but still much higher than earlier projected cost. I would expect the price to go higher before 2013/2014 (the earliest realistic date for a human launch), if for nothing other than inflation.
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - The other problem I have with the SLS is that it's underpowered. It's simply not powerful enough to lift any significant amount of weight to BEO. The thing doesn't even lift as much as the Saturn V rocket. The Ares V was much more ambitious in that it could lift at least 404,000 lbs. to LEO if not more. The SLS lifts 6,000 lbs. less than the post-Apollo 14 Saturn V could. The Ares V was made to lift at least 158,000 or so lbs to the Moon and around 100,000 lbs to Mars.
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - With a lifting capability of only 100,000 lbs. to the Moon at most with the SLS (even less to Mars, probably around 60,000 lbs. or so) it's more difficult to set up a base or colony on Mars or the Moon and you can't lift as large of space refueling depots to Lagrange Points as you could potentially do with the Ares V. The Ares I and V's upper stage potential issues could be solved with either an air-start SSME or a 20-25% more powerful J-2X engine.
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - The Falcon Heavy is fine for what it does but when it comes to lifting heavy cargo and equipment to BEO or fuel depots to Lagrange Points it would be even more underpowered than the SLS. The Falcon Heavy is fine though for lifting moderately heavy space stations like the ones Bigelow Aerospace is constructing.
A86 6 months ago
@A86 Yes, but you can launch three falcon heavies for the price of the space shuttle. Capsule/ service modual, lander, bigelow. There's your moon mission or your phobos mission. you could put extra fuel on the Lander's FH. And if you don't like that The Falcon X and Falcon X Heavy will be along in another decade even if SLS isn't flying by then.
monokhem 6 months ago
@monokhem - "but you can launch three falcon heavies for the price of the space shuttle"
Probably more than that (the Shuttle cost up to $1.2 billion flight, you could probably get around 8-10 Falcon Heavy launches for the price of one Shuttle). The problem is SpaceX and Bigelow Aerospace have shown no active desire to go to the Moon or Mars and have nothing in the pipeline to get humans there any time soon. No lander in the planning, no nothing. There's little if any profit to be made
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - in going to the Moon or Mars other than maybe selling tickets for lunar flybys in the future. That's why Elon Musk has expressly left the BEO stuff up to NASA and is admittedly focused on LEO flight (and he's right that it's time for NASA to leave the LEO stuff to someone else).
I like SpaceX and Bigelow along with NASA but I think some people are being unrealistic with the former two and want them to do things they themselves aren't very interested in.
A86 6 months ago
@A86 You're wrong. Elon Musk isn't planning a spaceX mission to Mars but he has on numerous occasions proclaimed that he would like his hardware to take part in a NASA mission. He has said that the dragon can do anything the Orion can do, a blatant bid to get his hardware into consideration for a mars mission. Why
develop landing with propelent if he isn't interested in landing off of Earth?
The Bigelow space station is being concidered for L1, which is just as dangerous as a trip to mars.
monokhem 6 months ago
@monokhem - Wanting his hardware on NASA missions is not the same as wanting a full-blown independent SpaceX mission to the Moon or Mars or wanting SpaceX to get into the business of sending people to the Moon and Mars. Mr. Musk has stated at most he plans maybe private flybys to the Moon and Mars some day, but not scientific missions to land and set up bases. This shouldn't be surprising what rational company will dump billions of dollars into something that won't be profitable for decades?
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - This is why SpaceX has no manned lunar or martian landers in the works or even in planning stages. Same with Bigelow and Burt Rutan's company.
"Why develop landing with propelent"
Because he plans for the Dragon to land like the Soyuz, Shenzhou and the planned Russian PPTS capsule with retrorockets instead of relying solely on parachutes. Being able to land on land is much more convenient. There are no plans for a SpaceX human lunar lander or interplanetary ship.
A86 6 months ago
@monokhem - "is being concidered for L1"
It's mostly NASA asking Bigelow to provide them a station capable of supporting humans there, not something Bigelow up and decided to do on its own. Bigelow has nothing in the works to land humans on another heavenly body. Which, again, isn't surprising as there is no money in it. It's hard enough trying to make LEO missions profitable. Since governments don't rely on profiteering that's why they leave colonization missions up to the government.
A86 6 months ago
@A86 Bigelow would never try to land some one on another world because he makes living space. I'm sure he would be happy to provide living space to some one as they went to a new world. If some one was going to be there he would be happy to put his muduals on any body he could.
That's my point is that these companies will provide these things to NASA at predictable rates. Of Course NASA will be in charge of the mission.
monokhem 6 months ago
Doesn't look as big as a Saturn 5.
BARRIEMOREBARLOW 10 months ago
I don't know how "summer" got in there but just pretend it's not.
Soldier334 11 months ago
I'm perplexed. I could understand how the space shuttle would roll and arch but how does this summer thin looking spacecraft begin it's arch. I'm asking cuz I'm not sure. I don't see any fins or anything like that which would change it's trajectory(sp?). Isn't the solid fuel rocket just pushing it up?
Soldier334 11 months ago
Too bad we cant take all the money spent on producing idiotic television shows and direct it to the space program. Space science should not be dependent on the whims of small minded legislators.
lunhil12 11 months ago
@lunhil12 Yes because it brought us Tang and Velcro. I'd like the 8 million trillion back.
BARRIEMOREBARLOW 10 months ago
LOL wtf! how is obama a communist? lmfao
kojimapie 11 months ago 4
@kojimapie
Not only a commie, but an anti-American SOB who is trying to destroy our space program in the name of his god, outhouse-allah.
amourdutigre 10 months ago
@amourdutigre I like how you completely dodged the question. What polices and laws has Obama enacted that are communist? And anti-American?...why would somebody who is anti-American go and study the American constitution?
DOEZ NOT COMPUTTEEE!!!111
I don't like Obama, but there are actual legitimate things to criticize him on. Things that actually hold water and you can make a real argument for. The argument that he is a communist Muslim who magically somehow got to power is stupid.
kojimapie 10 months ago
@kojimapie
He is an anti-American communo-islamic dumbass and if you can't see it then you are the blind one here. Fact one...commie obammy is doing his best to socialize medicine. Sorry, but there is no right to medical care in the constitution. Second, he and his ugly wife have on many occasions in the past have put down America. Lastly, (for this discussion) he travels the world and APOLOGIZES to every tin-hat dumbass nation for "wrongs" that this wonderful nation supposidly has done.
amourdutigre 10 months ago
@amourdutigre The healthcare bill is so unbelievably weak it hardly does anything. If Obama was a socialist wouldn't he of put single payer into the bill?. He didn't even make a attempt to argue for the single payer option, now why would a hardcore communist not try to get a bill through that nationalizes part of the private sector?. Mhmmm...Doesnt make sense does it?. You guy's didn't even get the public option!.
kojimapie 10 months ago
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amourdutigre 10 months ago
@kojimapie and the health care bill, takes my right to NOT buy insurance away (UNCOSTITUTIONAL). He wants to ensure every useless eater and drug addict out there. Sorry, I do not feel any deep seated need to pay taxes to let welfare bums and dope addicts get health care. Then on top of it, the SOB wants "death panels" (end of life counsoling) to convince hard working people who are near the end of their lives that they do not need expensive treatments (so dope addicts can have theirs).
amourdutigre 10 months ago
@amourdutigre Lmao you really believe there are death panels? I mean, seriously..you actually believe that? I should just render everything you say as null because of that. Dude you need a serious fact check, not everything Glenn beck or the drudge report says is true.
kojimapie 10 months ago
@amourdutigre Its in your best interest to pay taxes instead of private healthcare companies, instead of the thousands of dollars you pay for a healthcare plan now you would be paying a tax increase of 3% what was proposed. That saves you thousands of dollars! plus, with a public option in insurance, you would be GUARANTEED the healthcare and wouldn't be able to be turned down because of pre-existing conditions. You retard you rallying against something that helps you
kojimapie 10 months ago
@kojimapie You are the stupid retard, dumbfuck! You are just one more fat, lazy libtard that wants to take what is mine because you are too stupid fat lazy to make it yourself! I pay for the best health care available, You pay taxes if you want to provide all of the stupid worthless eaters if you wish, but I WILL KEEP MY GUNS, MONEY, and HEALTHCARE. You stupid obama dick sucker can keep the change.
amourdutigre 10 months ago
@amourdutigre I'm not a liberal either before you start that crap. Private insurance companies only motive is profit, they don't care about giving you healthcare, that's why thousands and thousands of Americans are refused there insurance for crap reasons like pre-existing conditions and thus are slowly dying. A government insurance option guarantees by LAW, that's L-A-W, that they have to treat you, and if not you can take them to court, because their motive is healthcare not profit.
kojimapie 10 months ago
@kojimapie
You must get your "facts" from NPR. Dumbass. Go suck your islamic messiah's wang, I for one will not be a sheeple like you.
amourdutigre 10 months ago
@amourdutigre First off i don't no what NPR is. Nice to see you cant refute shit (;
kojimapie 10 months ago
@kojimapie
And it is nice to know that you cannot hide the fact that you are a worshipper of the communio-islamic kenyan dumbass who pretends to be an American. Your posts give you away. And you know damn-well what NPR is. If you do not, then you truly are ignorant. I am (as millions of others) working to convince our reps to defund NPR.
amourdutigre 10 months ago
@amourdutigre i don't no what NPR is because i don't live in the US so i couldn't give a fuck what you do to them. Me not living in the US pretty much sends your idea that im just following him down the shitter. I've already told you i don't like him anyway for real reasons i can show to be true. You've not attempted to refute any of my points iv made, you just keep coming up with the same bs rhetoric which pretty much equates to sticking your fingers in your ears and going LALALA
kojimapie 10 months ago