the shed in my back jard has 2 storys and is made of wood and burned for 3 hours and gues what it didnt collapse we repaird it a day later and its good now
1400 degrees wont melt steel.. But will render it unless to deal with its service load.. The buildings did well to stand for as long as they did.. The only issue I have is the dry wall surrounding the inner core columns, quite clearly these should have been protected by concrete and building regs should change as a result.. More people would have made it down
THE TWIN TOWERS HAD A IMPACT ELEMENT OF 13,000 TONS.A FULLY LOADED 747 HAS AN IMPACT ELEMENT OF 300 TONS.THE BUILDINGS WERE DESIGNED TO TAKE MUTIPLE PLANE HITS AND STILL REMAIN.SUPER-NANO THERMITE BROUGHT DOWN THESE TOWERS DUE TO BEING ARRANGED BY THE US GOVERNMENT.....WHY THE AMERICAN POPULATION DON'T PROTEST THIS IS BEYOND ME....STAND UNITED AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.THE US GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAND TRIAL FOR MASS MURDER....I REST MY CASE!!!
@TheMaddogjake would nano thermite still produce molten steel 3 months after they fell? ground zero which is a clue was still around 1500 degrees several weeks into the clean up
the plane crashes into the WTC was also more severe than other building for one reason being that large explosions were created on each planes impact, also making the video invalid
the plane that hit the empire state building was a b-25 not a b-52. b-52's werent around in 1945, case being this video is invalid and shouldnt be acknowledged
All those towers didn't collapse mainly because they didn't had any planes crashed into them! Except of the Empire State Building, but even then, the plane that hit it was smaller compared to the Twin Towers.
Here's what I don't understand: At 5:12, in order to back the claim that the towers came down in 10 seconds, they show the collapse of WTC2 along with a timer - and they stop the timer at 10 seconds.
BUT what happens at 10 seconds that lead them to conclude THAT is the moment the collapse is complete?? Looks the same at 11 seconds as it does at 9; the collapse is still going unabated
I don't see how anyone can look at that video & conclude that tower's collapse took 10 seconds.
@MrX13415 "aluminium never can cause any damage to steel"
Thanks, flat-earther, but it's a different story when you're talking 72 tons of aluminum, steel, and kerosine at eight hundred and thirty feet per second, against 14" hollow tubes made of 1/4" steel
Those tubes were thick at their bases, but at the impact height they were relatively THIN
Science isn't "common" sense. It's more sensible than that
@TheRdlion yeah. but not like this ... destroyes (supposedly) the entire steel core of the building at more then 3 floors ... this is to mutch demage for aluminum ...
The Twin Towers were not a steel framed building. It was designed in a new high tech fashion. Search for pictures of it's construction. It's was different than any other high completed. The core of the building as you can see in this video. The floors were held in place with light weight truss not steel beams. Check it out.
@12Weasel All of you Fucking Debunkers need to shut the Hell up and accept the fact that the Twin Towers and building 7 did not collapse because of fires or structural damage. All of you debunkers can't accept the facts but can only listen to the lies of the government. Building 7 obviously was a controlled demolition. How the Hell can fires cause steel framed buildings to collapse? How do you explain that?
Oh.. so i guess by collapsing WTC 7 that totally obliterates all of those government offices and material from the face of the earth. Nothing could ever be discovered.
You truthers buy in to allot of total rubbish and stupidity.
@12Weasel None of those are tall building except the Windsor building which did not collapse, and it burned for 18 hours, the twin towers burned for 1 hour and collapsed in the exact style of a controlled demolition. Have you seen Loose Change?
@12Weasel Name one other steel framed building that has collapsed from fire damage in history. And how has any of what I said been proven wrong? You're sticking up for a war mongering government of globalists. Go fuck yourself.
@12Weasel Even though there was nano-termite residue found all over ground zero? And the fact that Cheney ordered NORAD to stand down, no plane hit the Pentagon, the 9/11 commission report doesn't even mention WTC 7, and the twin towers would be the first 2 steel frame buildings in history to collapse due to fire damage. Open your fucking eyes you moron.
Big difference in all of the fires that you stated. None had external fuel nor a plane full of 20,000 gallons of fuel. The empire state plane had a mere fraction of the fuel and a much more beefy structure. The trade centers lost much of the fireproofing on the steel due to the explosion of the fuel. This weakened not melted)the steel and the weight of the upper floors cuased the buildings to collapse. The higher fire had less floors pressing down on it. The Philly fire nearly collapsed.
Thank you for saving me time of collecting this data. A PHD that can not understand this video, can not fix their car never mind change a light bulb. Only purpose of college these days is define class differences not to make people intelligent! This is not rocket science here, if you do not get it, something is wrong with your ability to analyze! Steel does not melt at 2000, steel/concrete buildings do not fall when burned to crisp! Let me spell something wrong so you have somethong to criticize
@videomakerman1232 It,s an old tactic, the proof is everywhere you just chose not to see it. How(Patriot Act ) of you.. Read caption under ( False Flags hitlers 911) those Buildings were brought down by the government.
@videomakerman1232 Vid'make' Beside the 10 to 1 attack against those who don't follow the Gov's at fault therory, it's refreshing to see u stand up for idea that prehaps islamic terrorist finally pulled it off due to their hate of the West. The towers were of a modern radical building design never used before exept now in Bubi. Want to talk about our USA mid-eastern abuse that's another talk we should have?
@McBONEYARD Thanks for reminding me of a great Calvin Coolidge quote. Your somewhat hostile comment you left on my page stated "I'm not your friend" but I'd also like to add that I'm not your enemy either, there really is no need to attempt to insult me. As I said before, type what you like, it makes no difference to me. If you wish to have a further discussion, add me on Facebook, yes! the CIA run social networking database, I mean 'site' haha. My profile is the same as my YT user name.
@McBONEYARD Whatever confused view you have of me makes no difference, these are just opinions. I actually found your original points quite interesting and I have already copied them to research myself. I will always retain a healthy amount of skepticism to everything I read or am told, including your comments, and will choose to believe facts that I can observe.
@McBONEYARD Whether 9/11 was a scam or not, it still remains that there was no justification for it lead to an illegal war in Iraq in which many innocent people have been harmed and killed. These topics are huge and there is no room in these little boxes to really have any kind of intelligent discussion, I would be really interested to hear your views on Banking and 'derivatives', and whether you think we are really free. Peace and love and light to you ;)
@McBONEYARD Oh we agree on something then! I'm assuming you mean the Queen Elizabeth II and not Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, or Margrethe of Denmark. It makes no odds anyway, they're all related! Just like the majority of presidents and prime ministers and many of the other elite leaders. Why are all these people part of the elite that run the world? Bloodline, and that can be, and has been proven. Leaders aren't elected, they're selected. No conspiracy, just fact.
HAHAHAHAHA!! check out the link this guy left...Underground News>HAHAHAHA!!
What is the creditability of any of those morons on that dime store website? This guy will believe almost anything!! GRRAHAHAHA! ...Hey AL I have a bridge to sell you, Interested? What a joker.
@McBONEYARD rense.com/general68/pass.htm Once again, as you were aboviously so caught up in your own frustration towards people who like to think 'outside the box'...at no point have I said whether I believe it to be a conspiracy, I simply believe that if people want to believe that, including members of some of the victims families, they have the right. What I don't appreciate is you putting words in my mouth. End of.
@alyncurtislove people who think "out side the box" when its done in an intelligent way. Your comments reflect a person who believes this was done on purpose with no regard to facts or science. If being frustrated at stupidity is wrong I don't want to be right. If you find my comments abusive report me! I know freedom of speech is a foreign concept to you limeys so I will explain it to you, If patrons of this web site have the nerve to post such unorganized, ignorant videos a rebuttal isexpected
As much as 42,000 gallons of diesel fuel was stored near ground level in building 7 tower and ran in pipes up to smaller tanks and emergency generators for Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's command center.A failure of the same type of structural bridge contributed to the collapse of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.Federal guidelines for public buildings, created in 1996, warned of the dangers of such trusses in terrorist attacks.
1. How does anyone know how long the collapse took to complete, I nor anyone but superman can see through concrete dust.2. Fact building 7 had multiple large diesel tanks for emergency power systems, if you pile 110 stories of flaming debris on any tank...well...boom!
@McBONEYARD fair enough, point 2 diesel tanks...yeah that should be enough to bring down a whole building...whatever! I'm not saying it was or wasn't an inside job, I just think the whole thing is very suspicious. I also find it unbelievable that they found one of the alleged terrorists passports at ground zero, the whole plane practically vapourised as soon as it hit the building! Uh anyway, I really can't be arsed to get in to a debate about it.
@alan curtis This tragedy raises more questions than common sense and education can answer. Lets ask ourselves this question ... does claiming a government conspiracy really honor the innocent and brave who died without a choice. NO! If anyone truly believes that the government flew drones into its own buildings should have already moved to the security of Canada. Sadly they just want some kind of sick attention at the expense of victims of a terrifying final exit.
@McBONEYARD look dude you're really boring me so here's a link, nothing either of us type on here is going to make any difference anyway so type whatever you like if it makes you feel better, I obviously touched a nerve!
@alan curtis Please answer this.. have you ever been to NYC and seen for yourself the World Trade Complex and the layout of the buildings pre attack? I am talking from first hand experience here and its amazing that more destruction did not occur.
@alyncurtis You people spout crap on here without even researching your statements. Amazingly enough single pieces of paper survived the impact zone as well ,and foremost I have never seen a single REAL report stating anyone found any terrorists passport at ground zero. I think you would be surprised to research the size of remaining pieces from both aircraft.
@alyncurtis As much as 42,000 gallons of diesel fuel was stored near ground level in building 7 tower and ran in pipes up to smaller tanks and emergency generators for Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's command center.A failure of the same type of structural bridge contributed to the collapse of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.Federal guidelines for public buildings, created in 1996, warned of the dangers of such trusses in terrorist attacks.
3. A b-52 with no bombs ammo ect weighs one tenth of what a 757-200 scales in at...btw that's over 400,00 lbs.4. The Empire state building (for those who have never seen it) is engineered in a completely different way than towers so comparing the two is sloppy and ignorant.5. La sky scraper same thing Different Construction, not to mention the scale of the fire.
6.Actully lived near the building in Philly and this one like the last has a completely different architecture than towers, and btw where is the 10 -30 stories of building on top of the damage (key to collapse).7 Venezuelan building-not same architecture and no weight on top of damage.8.Windsor building of Madrid sustained damage to top of building with no force pressing down on it, why would it fall?
9.The construction of the floors of the towers is no longer used in today's buildings because over the years similar designs FAILED when a fire is present over extended periods of time, sorry the designers didn't have a time machine for that.Ask a fireman Never Trust a Truss. 10. You boast on the buildings size ,lets not forget they were not only tall but 135 feet wide on each side it's hard for me to even estimate that kind of weight.
11. Fuel not the only factor in these collapses . In case you don't know a 757's air frame is beyond strong, I know weight and gravitational forces may be hard for some to understand but if you realise a 400,000lb+ airplane can rip through the sky at 500mph+ without disintegrating you may grasp the concept. So when the airframe tore completely through the steel i-beams its possible to think most if not all were removed, and the remaining beams now
12. the second plane "barely hitting" You are insane! that's evident by the plane shaped hole, take a look at where the end of the wing hole stops before the corner of the building...Did you watch any of this?
13. the south tower collapses first maybe because it has literally twice the weight on top of the damage than the north tower.Also watch slow mo footage of where the buildings fail first. They fail on the corners of each effected area, and when an estimated 2 million pounds starts moving what could stop it?14.gallons formula only works for a items own weight, did you account for everything in the building.
15. the timer stops way early, middle of the building stood for over 45 seconds. explain that.16 if you are aware if Van Romeos college grades you would hardly call him a expert hence the retraction.17 Hyman browns comments...a 707 is not a modern 757 big difference. And since no one has ever seen a hundred year storm how can you predict its damage?
18. The steel was beyond code but as we know Never Trust Trusses.Briefly burning fires ?? the fires burned for two months after the collapse. If I made a statement like that i would expect to be fired.19. we do not know what the temperature was in either building so we cannot speculate.
Well liked you video but I found 19 factual errors if you would be so kind to fix it for me I would greatly appreciate it!
In the video the college reject claims that when building seven fell it didn't damage any surrounding structures, but wasn't the Fiterman Hall damaged from the collapse so much so that it had to be demolished?
@JamieT96 i doubt any damage caused by wtc7 which was structurally built the same way as the towers could knock down a steel framed concrete reinforced block, but parts of wtc7 did land on another building, and it took at least 18 seconds to fall, which is way to slow to be a controlled demolition, there was 8 seconds between the fall of the east and west penthouses, conspiracists wont tell you about that,
paste this CLHwvwJCmgk after the = in the youtube url in your browser to see it.
@JamieT96 i just did a search and found the following info on 9/11 damages. Five days after the terrorist attacks, ruins of the New York World Trade Center buildings still smoldered. Destroyed were: •the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center •7 World Trade Center •6 World Trade Center •5 World Trade Center •4 World Trade Center •the Marriott World Trade Center •the World Financial Center complex •St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church
It was heavily damaged during the September 11, 2001 attacks when debris from the collapse of 7 WTC compromised the structure. It became unsafe to occupy due to mold growth and asbestos exposure. Because traditional demolition would result in an unacceptable environmental impact, the building was scheduled for deconstruction and decontamination as part of the Lower Manhattan redevelopment project.[5]
bullshit, a normal house fire is over 1100 degrees, a 1200 degree fire is enough to weaken steel by 50%, and thats what happened in the towers, the steel columns weakened and then was no longer able to withstand the weight of the above floors, these conspiracy fuckwits are always talking about "melting" steel, but thats bullshit.
its not molten steel, its aluminum, the further the molten material fell the cooler it got, and as it cooled it turned silver, molten metal when cooled is adark colour...
google
Nyctohylophobia molten metal
and
debunking 911 molten metal
the thing you need to remember is that these conspiracy theorists are not lead by experts, they also lie and leave out vital evidence.
if you'd like to read my thoughts on 911 conspiracies after studying and coming to my own conclusions.
google.... aussiestars. freeforums. org
(take out the spaces)
click on the 3rd link "aussiestars arcade games"...
navigate to "home" then to "general" then look for the post called "slap yourselves", the post iself is written to a few people on a site that i cant post in.
while i cant answer every question, i still manage to show these people why they are wrong.
@stuffmohammed where did the aluminum come from tough, i know some lie but i try to link logical ideas together with what you could see and eyewitness acounts
the whole boeing plane was made from aluminum, planes are not built like they were in the old days when they were made from wooden skeletons covered in canvas.
@stuffmohammed why wasn't there any from north tower, why was it pouring out of the side of the south tower and for a genrall knowledge thing, what temperture does aluminum melt?
@stuffmohammed A fair amount of the fuel in the jets burned off on impact. That that did not found it's lowest point as it spread. Some may have made it to the outside walls but had a higher chance of being barricaded. It found a shaft somewhere in one of the towers. As this burning fuel cascaded down through the shaft (s) it melted wire insulation which would have resembled a rain of fire. @ the pooled up fuel at the bottom reached combustion conditions. Must have been loud explosions.
there were also electrical transformers in the lower levels which could also have exploded, these are the things that conspiricists ignore, cos' the truth lends no credence to their bullshit.
You clearly don't know anything about structural engineering and you don't seem to realise that the structural design of the twin towers was like nothing that came before. The towers that you listed rely on the core to hold the structure up whereas the twin tower relies entirely on the exterior wall. Any significant damage to said wall would result in a cascading failure to bring down the entire structure. All your evidence is arbitrary and has no relation to the twin towers or just speculation.
I'll admit that I can't, I havn't looked into WTC 7, but I don't feel I have to. Not with an argument this weak; it's just a list. It's like if I were to say that all Americans were gay and list a dozen or so that are. If you believe the logic of this video then you should believe me too.
If you freeze frame at 4:04 you will see a small sphere on the left side of the WTC. It turns the corner of the WTC and moves up and along the exterior
the shed in my back jard has 2 storys and is made of wood and burned for 3 hours and gues what it didnt collapse we repaird it a day later and its good now
7249xxl 3 months ago
@7249xxl Why do you have a 2 storey shed? o_o and why did it take 3 hours to put out?
Jamesss123456 1 month ago
1400 degrees wont melt steel.. But will render it unless to deal with its service load.. The buildings did well to stand for as long as they did.. The only issue I have is the dry wall surrounding the inner core columns, quite clearly these should have been protected by concrete and building regs should change as a result.. More people would have made it down
jamesrp007 4 months ago
THE TWIN TOWERS HAD A IMPACT ELEMENT OF 13,000 TONS.A FULLY LOADED 747 HAS AN IMPACT ELEMENT OF 300 TONS.THE BUILDINGS WERE DESIGNED TO TAKE MUTIPLE PLANE HITS AND STILL REMAIN.SUPER-NANO THERMITE BROUGHT DOWN THESE TOWERS DUE TO BEING ARRANGED BY THE US GOVERNMENT.....WHY THE AMERICAN POPULATION DON'T PROTEST THIS IS BEYOND ME....STAND UNITED AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.THE US GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAND TRIAL FOR MASS MURDER....I REST MY CASE!!!
TheMaddogjake 5 months ago
@TheMaddogjake would nano thermite still produce molten steel 3 months after they fell? ground zero which is a clue was still around 1500 degrees several weeks into the clean up
jonahlasvegas 4 months ago
All of your items are completely different. Just more bullshit from dumbasses that have nothing better to do.
Rangerbelt 5 months ago
... found the video in english: watch?v=25vlt7swhCM
MrX13415 6 months ago
plane against wall with 800 km/h ....
watch?v=l7eI4vvlupY
MrX13415 6 months ago
the plane crashes into the WTC was also more severe than other building for one reason being that large explosions were created on each planes impact, also making the video invalid
Spetsnazification 6 months ago
the plane that hit the empire state building was a b-25 not a b-52. b-52's werent around in 1945, case being this video is invalid and shouldnt be acknowledged
Spetsnazification 6 months ago
All those towers didn't collapse mainly because they didn't had any planes crashed into them! Except of the Empire State Building, but even then, the plane that hit it was smaller compared to the Twin Towers.
steven1098s 6 months ago
Here's what I don't understand: At 5:12, in order to back the claim that the towers came down in 10 seconds, they show the collapse of WTC2 along with a timer - and they stop the timer at 10 seconds.
BUT what happens at 10 seconds that lead them to conclude THAT is the moment the collapse is complete?? Looks the same at 11 seconds as it does at 9; the collapse is still going unabated
I don't see how anyone can look at that video & conclude that tower's collapse took 10 seconds.
TimReed22222 7 months ago
A plane is made of aluminum amd aluminium never can cause any damage to steel !!
MrX13415 10 months ago
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@MrX13415 "aluminium never can cause any damage to steel"
Thanks, flat-earther, but it's a different story when you're talking 72 tons of aluminum, steel, and kerosine at eight hundred and thirty feet per second, against 14" hollow tubes made of 1/4" steel
Those tubes were thick at their bases, but at the impact height they were relatively THIN
Science isn't "common" sense. It's more sensible than that
beachcomber2008 8 months ago
@MrX13415 yes it can its all about the force thats involved with a plane going that fast
TheRdlion 6 months ago
@TheRdlion yeah. but not like this ... destroyes (supposedly) the entire steel core of the building at more then 3 floors ... this is to mutch demage for aluminum ...
MrX13415 6 months ago
NICE video thanks for sharing the knowledge
ShiZi999 10 months ago
The Twin Towers were not a steel framed building. It was designed in a new high tech fashion. Search for pictures of it's construction. It's was different than any other high completed. The core of the building as you can see in this video. The floors were held in place with light weight truss not steel beams. Check it out.
reseller7 10 months ago
@12Weasel All of you Fucking Debunkers need to shut the Hell up and accept the fact that the Twin Towers and building 7 did not collapse because of fires or structural damage. All of you debunkers can't accept the facts but can only listen to the lies of the government. Building 7 obviously was a controlled demolition. How the Hell can fires cause steel framed buildings to collapse? How do you explain that?
Hotters70604ben 10 months ago 2
Oh.. so i guess by collapsing WTC 7 that totally obliterates all of those government offices and material from the face of the earth. Nothing could ever be discovered.
You truthers buy in to allot of total rubbish and stupidity.
roquefortfiles 10 months ago
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@roquefortfiles Why don't you just shut up because you have no idea what you are talking about!
azar78345able 10 months ago
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@12Weasel You have it backwards man.
HoLOLcaust 11 months ago
@12Weasel You may be the most close minded sheep I have encountered yet.
HoLOLcaust 11 months ago
hey it was February 13 1975 when the fire broke out
Jon00005 11 months ago
@12Weasel None of those are tall building except the Windsor building which did not collapse, and it burned for 18 hours, the twin towers burned for 1 hour and collapsed in the exact style of a controlled demolition. Have you seen Loose Change?
HoLOLcaust 11 months ago
@12Weasel yea name those buildings that collapsed due to fire please...so I can show those pesky "truthers"
Nsight420 11 months ago
@12Weasel Name one other steel framed building that has collapsed from fire damage in history. And how has any of what I said been proven wrong? You're sticking up for a war mongering government of globalists. Go fuck yourself.
HoLOLcaust 1 year ago
@12Weasel Even though there was nano-termite residue found all over ground zero? And the fact that Cheney ordered NORAD to stand down, no plane hit the Pentagon, the 9/11 commission report doesn't even mention WTC 7, and the twin towers would be the first 2 steel frame buildings in history to collapse due to fire damage. Open your fucking eyes you moron.
HoLOLcaust 1 year ago
@12Weasel Dumb ass.
HoLOLcaust 1 year ago
Big difference in all of the fires that you stated. None had external fuel nor a plane full of 20,000 gallons of fuel. The empire state plane had a mere fraction of the fuel and a much more beefy structure. The trade centers lost much of the fireproofing on the steel due to the explosion of the fuel. This weakened not melted)the steel and the weight of the upper floors cuased the buildings to collapse. The higher fire had less floors pressing down on it. The Philly fire nearly collapsed.
Rangerbelt 1 year ago
Thank you for saving me time of collecting this data. A PHD that can not understand this video, can not fix their car never mind change a light bulb. Only purpose of college these days is define class differences not to make people intelligent! This is not rocket science here, if you do not get it, something is wrong with your ability to analyze! Steel does not melt at 2000, steel/concrete buildings do not fall when burned to crisp! Let me spell something wrong so you have somethong to criticize
ZipOnOver 1 year ago
@12Weasel why don't you give me some believable proof that 9/11 was organized by the government.
videomakerman1232 1 year ago
@videomakerman1232 It,s an old tactic, the proof is everywhere you just chose not to see it. How(Patriot Act ) of you.. Read caption under ( False Flags hitlers 911) those Buildings were brought down by the government.
bambam9969 1 year ago
@videomakerman1232 Vid'make' Beside the 10 to 1 attack against those who don't follow the Gov's at fault therory, it's refreshing to see u stand up for idea that prehaps islamic terrorist finally pulled it off due to their hate of the West. The towers were of a modern radical building design never used before exept now in Bubi. Want to talk about our USA mid-eastern abuse that's another talk we should have?
2inchtube 1 year ago
@12Weasel you're the one that's a monkey. You don't even have any proof on what you say.
videomakerman1232 1 year ago
If anything it was just a huge fucking failure by the united states.
NigelGriff 1 year ago
fool
cowboyx1970 1 year ago
Rather be intelligent than mature. Nothing more pathetic than a mature idiot.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
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alyncurtis 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD Thanks for reminding me of a great Calvin Coolidge quote. Your somewhat hostile comment you left on my page stated "I'm not your friend" but I'd also like to add that I'm not your enemy either, there really is no need to attempt to insult me. As I said before, type what you like, it makes no difference to me. If you wish to have a further discussion, add me on Facebook, yes! the CIA run social networking database, I mean 'site' haha. My profile is the same as my YT user name.
alyncurtis 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD Whatever confused view you have of me makes no difference, these are just opinions. I actually found your original points quite interesting and I have already copied them to research myself. I will always retain a healthy amount of skepticism to everything I read or am told, including your comments, and will choose to believe facts that I can observe.
alyncurtis 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD Whether 9/11 was a scam or not, it still remains that there was no justification for it lead to an illegal war in Iraq in which many innocent people have been harmed and killed. These topics are huge and there is no room in these little boxes to really have any kind of intelligent discussion, I would be really interested to hear your views on Banking and 'derivatives', and whether you think we are really free. Peace and love and light to you ;)
alyncurtis 1 year ago
@alyncurtis Some people just don't know when they are not wanted. F-the queen!
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD Oh we agree on something then! I'm assuming you mean the Queen Elizabeth II and not Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, or Margrethe of Denmark. It makes no odds anyway, they're all related! Just like the majority of presidents and prime ministers and many of the other elite leaders. Why are all these people part of the elite that run the world? Bloodline, and that can be, and has been proven. Leaders aren't elected, they're selected. No conspiracy, just fact.
alyncurtis 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA!! check out the link this guy left...Underground News>HAHAHAHA!!
What is the creditability of any of those morons on that dime store website? This guy will believe almost anything!! GRRAHAHAHA! ...Hey AL I have a bridge to sell you, Interested? What a joker.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD maturity obviously isn't your forte!
alyncurtis 1 year ago
alyncurtis has me pegged. I hate MORONS! Some folks you just cant reach.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
Read The TRUTH on building 7 HERE!
wtc.nist.gov/media/NIST_NCSTAR
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McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD rense.com/general68/pass.htm Once again, as you were aboviously so caught up in your own frustration towards people who like to think 'outside the box'...at no point have I said whether I believe it to be a conspiracy, I simply believe that if people want to believe that, including members of some of the victims families, they have the right. What I don't appreciate is you putting words in my mouth. End of.
alyncurtis 1 year ago
@alyncurtislove people who think "out side the box" when its done in an intelligent way. Your comments reflect a person who believes this was done on purpose with no regard to facts or science. If being frustrated at stupidity is wrong I don't want to be right. If you find my comments abusive report me! I know freedom of speech is a foreign concept to you limeys so I will explain it to you, If patrons of this web site have the nerve to post such unorganized, ignorant videos a rebuttal isexpected
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McBONEYARD 1 year ago
As much as 42,000 gallons of diesel fuel was stored near ground level in building 7 tower and ran in pipes up to smaller tanks and emergency generators for Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's command center.A failure of the same type of structural bridge contributed to the collapse of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.Federal guidelines for public buildings, created in 1996, warned of the dangers of such trusses in terrorist attacks.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD trusses yeah, whatever!
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McBONEYARD 1 year ago
how about you see what 2000f would feel like. shut the fuck up and suck a dick
murder678876 1 year ago
1. How does anyone know how long the collapse took to complete, I nor anyone but superman can see through concrete dust.2. Fact building 7 had multiple large diesel tanks for emergency power systems, if you pile 110 stories of flaming debris on any tank...well...boom!
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD explain building 7
alyncurtis 1 year ago
@alyncurtis Read it again...it obviously didn't sink in.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD fair enough, point 2 diesel tanks...yeah that should be enough to bring down a whole building...whatever! I'm not saying it was or wasn't an inside job, I just think the whole thing is very suspicious. I also find it unbelievable that they found one of the alleged terrorists passports at ground zero, the whole plane practically vapourised as soon as it hit the building! Uh anyway, I really can't be arsed to get in to a debate about it.
alyncurtis 1 year ago
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McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@alan curtis This tragedy raises more questions than common sense and education can answer. Lets ask ourselves this question ... does claiming a government conspiracy really honor the innocent and brave who died without a choice. NO! If anyone truly believes that the government flew drones into its own buildings should have already moved to the security of Canada. Sadly they just want some kind of sick attention at the expense of victims of a terrifying final exit.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@McBONEYARD look dude you're really boring me so here's a link, nothing either of us type on here is going to make any difference anyway so type whatever you like if it makes you feel better, I obviously touched a nerve!
alyncurtis 1 year ago
@alan curtis Please answer this.. have you ever been to NYC and seen for yourself the World Trade Complex and the layout of the buildings pre attack? I am talking from first hand experience here and its amazing that more destruction did not occur.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
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@alyncurtis You people spout crap on here without even researching your statements. Amazingly enough single pieces of paper survived the impact zone as well ,and foremost I have never seen a single REAL report stating anyone found any terrorists passport at ground zero. I think you would be surprised to research the size of remaining pieces from both aircraft.
Read the TRUTH here---
wtc.nist.gov/media/NIST_NCSTAR_1A_for_public_comment.pdf
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
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@alyncurtis Read The TRUTH on building 7 HERE!
wtc.nist.gov/media/NIST_NCSTAR
_1A_for_public_comment.pdf
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McBONEYARD 1 year ago
@alyncurtis As much as 42,000 gallons of diesel fuel was stored near ground level in building 7 tower and ran in pipes up to smaller tanks and emergency generators for Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's command center.A failure of the same type of structural bridge contributed to the collapse of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.Federal guidelines for public buildings, created in 1996, warned of the dangers of such trusses in terrorist attacks.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
3. A b-52 with no bombs ammo ect weighs one tenth of what a 757-200 scales in at...btw that's over 400,00 lbs.4. The Empire state building (for those who have never seen it) is engineered in a completely different way than towers so comparing the two is sloppy and ignorant.5. La sky scraper same thing Different Construction, not to mention the scale of the fire.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
6.Actully lived near the building in Philly and this one like the last has a completely different architecture than towers, and btw where is the 10 -30 stories of building on top of the damage (key to collapse).7 Venezuelan building-not same architecture and no weight on top of damage.8.Windsor building of Madrid sustained damage to top of building with no force pressing down on it, why would it fall?
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
9.The construction of the floors of the towers is no longer used in today's buildings because over the years similar designs FAILED when a fire is present over extended periods of time, sorry the designers didn't have a time machine for that.Ask a fireman Never Trust a Truss. 10. You boast on the buildings size ,lets not forget they were not only tall but 135 feet wide on each side it's hard for me to even estimate that kind of weight.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
11. Fuel not the only factor in these collapses . In case you don't know a 757's air frame is beyond strong, I know weight and gravitational forces may be hard for some to understand but if you realise a 400,000lb+ airplane can rip through the sky at 500mph+ without disintegrating you may grasp the concept. So when the airframe tore completely through the steel i-beams its possible to think most if not all were removed, and the remaining beams now
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
12. the second plane "barely hitting" You are insane! that's evident by the plane shaped hole, take a look at where the end of the wing hole stops before the corner of the building...Did you watch any of this?
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
13. the south tower collapses first maybe because it has literally twice the weight on top of the damage than the north tower.Also watch slow mo footage of where the buildings fail first. They fail on the corners of each effected area, and when an estimated 2 million pounds starts moving what could stop it?14.gallons formula only works for a items own weight, did you account for everything in the building.
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
15. the timer stops way early, middle of the building stood for over 45 seconds. explain that.16 if you are aware if Van Romeos college grades you would hardly call him a expert hence the retraction.17 Hyman browns comments...a 707 is not a modern 757 big difference. And since no one has ever seen a hundred year storm how can you predict its damage?
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
18. The steel was beyond code but as we know Never Trust Trusses.Briefly burning fires ?? the fires burned for two months after the collapse. If I made a statement like that i would expect to be fired.19. we do not know what the temperature was in either building so we cannot speculate.
Well liked you video but I found 19 factual errors if you would be so kind to fix it for me I would greatly appreciate it!
McBONEYARD 1 year ago
Cheney desperately needed files in WTC7 to disapear to avoid 60 years in jail!
Zzozze 1 year ago
ppl get involed join your local we are change chapter
biofallout 1 year ago
Will ever know the truth of this day? All we know is that fuel from from planes that crashed into the buildings did not cause the wtc towers to fall.
josh71111 1 year ago
In the video the college reject claims that when building seven fell it didn't damage any surrounding structures, but wasn't the Fiterman Hall damaged from the collapse so much so that it had to be demolished?
JamieT96 1 year ago
@JamieT96 i doubt any damage caused by wtc7 which was structurally built the same way as the towers could knock down a steel framed concrete reinforced block, but parts of wtc7 did land on another building, and it took at least 18 seconds to fall, which is way to slow to be a controlled demolition, there was 8 seconds between the fall of the east and west penthouses, conspiracists wont tell you about that,
paste this CLHwvwJCmgk after the = in the youtube url in your browser to see it.
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
@JamieT96
and i have to ask, where are all the flashes and explosions that these idiot conspiracists are always raving on about concerning the towers ?
there aren't any.
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
@JamieT96
Damaged and later condemned were:
•the Deutsche Bank Building
•Manhattan Community College's Fiterman Hall at 30 West Broadway
Damaged but eventually restored were:
•90 West Street
•the Verizon Building
•One Liberty Plaza
•the Millenium Hilton
•90 Church Street
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
@JamieT96
from wikipedia....
Fiterman Hall
It was heavily damaged during the September 11, 2001 attacks when debris from the collapse of 7 WTC compromised the structure. It became unsafe to occupy due to mold growth and asbestos exposure. Because traditional demolition would result in an unacceptable environmental impact, the building was scheduled for deconstruction and decontamination as part of the Lower Manhattan redevelopment project.[5]
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
bullshit, a normal house fire is over 1100 degrees, a 1200 degree fire is enough to weaken steel by 50%, and thats what happened in the towers, the steel columns weakened and then was no longer able to withstand the weight of the above floors, these conspiracy fuckwits are always talking about "melting" steel, but thats bullshit.
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
@stuffmohammed true, but in one of the pictures of the south tower, molten steel is pouring out of the side
boltjet135 1 year ago
@boltjet135
its not molten steel, its aluminum, the further the molten material fell the cooler it got, and as it cooled it turned silver, molten metal when cooled is adark colour...
google
Nyctohylophobia molten metal
and
debunking 911 molten metal
the thing you need to remember is that these conspiracy theorists are not lead by experts, they also lie and leave out vital evidence.
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
@boltjet135
if you'd like to read my thoughts on 911 conspiracies after studying and coming to my own conclusions.
google.... aussiestars. freeforums. org
(take out the spaces)
click on the 3rd link "aussiestars arcade games"...
navigate to "home" then to "general" then look for the post called "slap yourselves", the post iself is written to a few people on a site that i cant post in.
while i cant answer every question, i still manage to show these people why they are wrong.
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
@stuffmohammed where did the aluminum come from tough, i know some lie but i try to link logical ideas together with what you could see and eyewitness acounts
boltjet135 1 year ago
@boltjet135
your joking aren't you ?
the whole boeing plane was made from aluminum, planes are not built like they were in the old days when they were made from wooden skeletons covered in canvas.
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
@stuffmohammed why wasn't there any from north tower, why was it pouring out of the side of the south tower and for a genrall knowledge thing, what temperture does aluminum melt?
boltjet135 1 year ago
@boltjet135
google Air France Flight 358, it left the runway and caught fire, the bulk of the plane melted, but the wings still holding fuel were left intactt.
and why didnt it pour out of the north tower ?
perhaps some did, who knows ?
but then again perhaps it was able to pour onto the floor below,
aluminum melts at 1280 degrees faranheit.
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
@stuffmohammed A fair amount of the fuel in the jets burned off on impact. That that did not found it's lowest point as it spread. Some may have made it to the outside walls but had a higher chance of being barricaded. It found a shaft somewhere in one of the towers. As this burning fuel cascaded down through the shaft (s) it melted wire insulation which would have resembled a rain of fire. @ the pooled up fuel at the bottom reached combustion conditions. Must have been loud explosions.
srs876chief 1 year ago
@srs876chief
there were also electrical transformers in the lower levels which could also have exploded, these are the things that conspiricists ignore, cos' the truth lends no credence to their bullshit.
stuffmohammed 1 year ago
You clearly don't know anything about structural engineering and you don't seem to realise that the structural design of the twin towers was like nothing that came before. The towers that you listed rely on the core to hold the structure up whereas the twin tower relies entirely on the exterior wall. Any significant damage to said wall would result in a cascading failure to bring down the entire structure. All your evidence is arbitrary and has no relation to the twin towers or just speculation.
username4215 1 year ago
How do you explain the WTC 7? Fucking idiot.
vic3003 1 year ago
@vic3003
I'll admit that I can't, I havn't looked into WTC 7, but I don't feel I have to. Not with an argument this weak; it's just a list. It's like if I were to say that all Americans were gay and list a dozen or so that are. If you believe the logic of this video then you should believe me too.
username4215 1 year ago
If you freeze frame at 4:04 you will see a small sphere on the left side of the WTC. It turns the corner of the WTC and moves up and along the exterior
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago