Nice facade, but unfortunately there is nothing in this video about discrimination against Poles in Lithuania country. To get a real idea about what's going on in the country watch this short documentary youtube DOT com /watch?v=2RyX5vX9Qfs
If you mean by attack, not using foreign alphabets in official Lithuania documents and signage, then that applies to almost every other nationality on the planet whose system of writing is unlike the one used in Lithuanian, not just Poles, but Greeks, English or Chinese. It is the same in all the countries mostly.
If you mean slander and stuff like that, then SOME Lithuanians do so, but really they attack anyone, even other Lithuanians too. Idiots and bigots are found in every country.
@GladkyAndrey Do you know, that A Smetona, not only attacked Belorusians, but also other Lithuanians like Basanavicius and his followers who opposed Smetona's German supported propaganda with invention of Balts and with his ultra-nationalistic policies of the government back then. True Lithuanian patriots had to escape to Vilnius for protection under Poles from our stupid president Smetona. Those were sad times and sadly Smetona's lies and propaganda is still strong now in Lithuania
@khulik Deny it all you want but the whole Piłsudsk clan is from the Samogitian village of Pilsūdai, in Tauragė district, Jozef’s daddy bought a little estate in Zalavas and that is the only reason why Jozef wasn’t born in Żmudź, but he was a true żmudź, and as Lithuanians say: once a żmudź always a żmudź. Deal with it mate.
@khulik Pilsudski was a great man, and sadly a larger part of Lithuanians are still brainwashed with the same German propaganda that in 1918 A. Smetona used. A. Smetona's ideas and his selfish ultra-nationalist sadly still live on, not all Lithuanians are like them but Poles only hear about those idiots and then you think that all Lithuanians are retarded, and that is exactly what Moscow wants, Poland and Lithuania to fight each other. Could Poles be less absolutist in their judgements?
@Qongrat Zinai kur gali savo Pilsucki susikisti sau i subine.Nezinau kas tamsta esate bet lietuviu tautos jums juodinti nepavyks.Kas liecia Smetona tai jis paliginus su Fasistu Pilsuckiu buvo tikras angelas,ir i svetimas teritorijas nesidaire,ko nepasakysi apie Lenkijos imperelistinius keslus.O apie dabartine skleidziama Lenkijos agresyve melo propoganda liudija paskutiniu menesiu ivykiai.Ne veltui Cercilis Lenkija buvo pavadines Europos giena kuri is patikiu puola savo kaimynus/
@robisx2 Smetona tai jau tikrai nebuvo angelas, jis buvo gudrus ir apsukrus savanaudis, kai kad ir visi jo ištikimieji tuo metu. Jis įsakė Lietuvai nesipriešinti prieš komunistus neskaitant to kad Lietuvos kariuomenė buvo daug stipresnė negu Suomijos, ir mes žinom kas atsitiko Suomijoje sovietams. Nuo jo bėgo Basanavičius bijodamas persekiojimų. Geras jis buvo tas laisvasis mūrininkas. Bet tai aišku yra mano nuomonė apie tai ką aš sužinojau apie Smetoną, ir suprantu kad ji neatitinka jūsų.
@Qongrat 1) Tu greiciausiai esi skaites knyga arba istrauka is tos knygos kuria parases zmogus buvo sodriai prafinansuotas lenkiskuju strukturu ,kurio paistalais siektiek daugiau zinanciam zmogui Lietuvos to meto istorija darosi koktuja skaityti,:angliškai parašyta T.Balkelio knyga( griauna istorijos mitus).Atgimstant Lietuvai ir prasidejus atgimimo bangai issivaduojant is ilgalaikes polonizacijos gniauztu,jau tuo metu jaunoji Lietuva.
@Qongrat Do you know,that you are retarded ?Smetona nationalist? You just confirmed that psheks like you know nothing about patriotism.Well if the first thing that came to mind when you tought about Smetona is Fascist you do need some psychic help sir.You can shove that Pilsūka to your own ass.Oh and did you forget what already happened in the last month ? huh? or did you "forget" ? Oh and Smetona attacked Belarussians ?
@DelTevynes Yes, sure mate, whatever tickles your testicles. You have a nice day now. Oh, just one final thought, perhaps anger management classes woud help you. Enjoy.
@DelTevynes Tu vakas gal pasigilink, kai paaugsi ir pradėsi sugebėti mastyti be jausmų, į istoriją, kur ir kas ištikro įvyko vietoj to kad klausytum kažkieno kito išvedžiojimų sumaišytų su neapykantos nuodais kad kitiems smegenis pudruotu. Žmonės yr žmonės, ir nesvarbu as jie lietuviai ar ne, brudų visur būna, ir Smetona buvo brudas, nors prieštai jis bovo mano herojus. Nu kas žino, gal aš klystu ir jis vėl taps mano heroju (?)
@Qongrat 2) susidure su masyviu to meto Lenkijos propogandine melo masina,kuri skleide mela Lietuvos atgimino patriarcha Jona Basanaviciu pavadine Rusijos agentu bandanciu lietuviu atgimimu susilpninti Lenkijos valstybe kuri turejo atgimti nuo juros iki juros,toliau Lietuviu kalbininka Jona Jablonski paskelbe Kaizerines Vokietijos spijonu,kuris sunormino literatūrinę lietuvių kalbą,jis perejo nuo tarmių prie bendrinės kalbos vartosenos.
@Qongrat 3) Kas liecia Jona Basanaviciu tai jis ir suformavo suki ( MES BE VILNIAUS NENURIMSIM)po to kaip buvo jega atplestas is Lietuvos Vilnius, jis savo noru pasiliko Vilniuje,joks Smetona jo nepersekiojo.Apie tai daug yra literaturos kuria galima perskaityti.O jums yra zinomas pasakymas mano prieso priesas taps mano sajunginiku,tai cia tau butu atsakymas del ko praleido Lietuva rusu armija,pries tai gavusi i kaulus nuo lietuviu savanoriu priverte Rusija pasirasyti taikos sutarti su Lietuva .
@khulik ja widze biez nas wam trudno.I snowu klutne idži.No mial nas w dupie,no co robicz?jak žemaičui-lietuvui neh bendže na jego sumieniu.Pszežiliszmi i bez jego.A ježely on was mial w dupie jaka byla by PL?pytane jest otwarte..............
@khulik Dzikus Żydopolak z JUDENPOLAND zamknij swoj ryj gnoju jebany.Niech zyje wolny Slask.Wyjebac wszystkie polskie kurwy stont. Polen raus aus Schlesien ,Polen raus aus Suvalkai.
@PolskiHetman Chuj ci w łeb a nie Wilno ZYDOPOLAK jebany.Nic, przyjdzie czas kiedy my z niemcami podzielimy ŻYDOPOLAND, niemcom Schlesie a nam SUVALKAI.
wy musicie zawsze na pomoc innych liczyc ? wyslemy elite naszych chuliganow i Wilno wroci do macierzycy a zmudzino beda u nas autostrady budowac ty cwelu jebany
@PolskiHetman Tylko pomylkowo powiedziales chuju jebany, wy napewno wrócicie,ale do Buchenwaldu gdzie was będzie czekac kamerki gazowe wy gnojowy naród untermenszow.
ja bym zmudzinow do komory gazowej nie wsadzil.. co ty.. szkoda gazu tylko... taniej bedzie was powiesic kolo naszych nowych autostrad, a mianowicie do Wilna..
@PolskiHetman Anegdota:Kiedy polacy wyrzucali niemcow ze swoich rodzinnych miast,jeden polski nowy kolonista pyta bylego wlasciciela majatku czy ja moze u pana wziąć wasze pozostawione meble i inne rzeczy.Na to pytanie stary niemec dal polakowi odpowiec:Z mojego domu mozesz zabrac wszystko,nawet mozesz wyciąć caly sad,ale tobie proszę tylko o jednym zostaw jedno drzewo.Polak pyta u niemca dlaczego: Bo kiedy ja wroce spowrotem będzie gdzie mial ciebie powiesić na drzewie .
O, to już wam się Diktatura skończyła, i wasze gówniane móżdżki nic nie potrafią wymyślić nowego, więc sięgacie po klasykę podludzi po zach. stronie Odry?
robisx2, zaraz twoje genitalia zmienią sie w bezkształtną mase krwi i kości.
Życze ci świeżutkiego klotza na klate oraz żeby cie stary przestał molestować, wszystkiego najgorszego i takiego garba że sznurówki będziesz wiązał na stojąco, żeby ci karp chuja ujebał zboczeńcu i żebyś wkońcu przestał molestować niemowlaki ty zakurwiały jak kurwa patałachu.
Życze ci życze ci by cie jebał nosorożec, by cie napastował cały dworzec, częstych kąpieli z tatą, dużo rodzynów w dupie a ponadto moszne na plecach, żeby ci chuja do odkurzacza wessało, chuja na czole, złamania karku ty zafajdany koguci prąciu.
Życze ci pachnącego klotza, czopsa w klate i penisa pod pachą ty odchodzie.
Z okazji tych świąt życze ci trzeciego taty, bo dwóch ci nie wystarcza i wielu schyleń w męskim WC i klotza na klacie, żeby ci przeszły te wrzody na chuju.
@khulik Kiedy polacy wyrzucali niemcow ze swoich rodzinnych miast,jeden polski nowy kolonista pyta bylego wlasciciela majatku czy ja moze u pana wziąć wasze pozostawione meble i inne rzeczy.Na to pytanie stary niemec dal polakowi odpowiec:Z mojego domu mozesz zabrac wszystko,nawet mozesz wyciąć caly sad,ale tobie proszę tylko o jednym zostaw jedno drzewo.Polak pyta u niemca dlaczego: Bo kiedy ja wroce spowrotem będzie gdzie mial ciebie powiesić na drzewie .
@khulik Dla nas pojęcie zyd czy polak jest ten samy narod.A was brzydkich brudasow azjackich trzeba deportowac z terenow europejskich na Bliski Wschód do Izraelu gdzie razem z zydami znajdziecie wspolny język, bo jest nie do pojęcia ze jakiś brudne i gnojne azjaci mieszkali wśród europejczyków .
Kolejne trafne porównanie lietuzwisa :) Wiesz, jeśli miałeś na myśli Japończyków, to to nie jest obelga, bo to bardzo pracowity, mądry i cywilizowany naród.
Co więcej-sorki, ale to wy jesteście bardziej wysunięci w stronę Mongolii.
Życze ci moszne na plecach, żebyś miał osobne łóżko z tatą oraz żeby ci pielucho-majtek zabrakło i grzyba na kutasie, pryszcza na dupie, żeby ci karp chuja ujebał zboczeńcu, lepszego kompa, bo przecież commodorki już dawno wyszły z mody i mniej pryszczy na nosie ty zapyziały szczochu.
Życze ci mniejszej dupy oraz złamania karku, świeżutkiego klotzuszka pod choinką a ponadto trzeciego taty, bo dwóch ci nie wystarcza...
And at the end of the Soviet Union - have 500-550 thousand people. Therefore, the Belarusian population in Vilnius is not actually exist, except in rural areas - the deportation and repression they have not touched, the Lithuanians were the main city pick up, and Stalin, of course, agreed to.
@GladkyAndrey Just for your knowledge, Zemaitijan language is more similar to Belorusian, than the Lithuanian language that Lithuanians speak in Vilnius region. Lithuanians even find it hard to understand Zemaitijans without translation.One more thing, Zemaitijans don't even consider themselves to be Lithuanian as they see themsleves as a seperate ethnic group and culture in the most western part of Lithuania and their region doesn't even reach Kaunas, let alone Vilnius.
@khulik How do you know if he spoke Lithuanian or not? Have you spoken to him in person? You see, history is such complicated thing that there actually is no single truth that all the historians with agree to. There are many versions of history. Some claim that he actually did speak Lithuanian because back then some have seen him speak to Lithuanian farmers in Lithuanian, but yet it's just another version and nothing more. Conclusion: Plausible.
@khulik And here you go again with the nationalist thing...
How come you just just don't get bored with it? Nationalist here, nationalist there... it's like nationalists everywhere considering what you type in the comments. Get over it, dude! It's not 1939, it's 2011 now.
Great! Now tell this to Lithuanian teachers, who named some days ago polish children "Hitlerjugend"... and a few days later in Wilno (Vilnus) and Kowno (Kaunas) somebody hanged Nazi flags with descriptions "Hitler was right" in Lithuanian.
It's not Poland who behave today like country from 20' of XX century.
@khulik WOW! You're more of an asshole than I actually thought. You're obviously no lawyer and you definitely do not know that in every democratic state it's constitution establishes a right to form a subjective-personal opinion. That was simply a school principal's opinion, which cannot form any legal consequences for that matter and hanging those nazi flags was nothing more, but a disturbance of a public peace commited by a group of immature teenagers. You're like a woman selling good at a....
"she's always right and her opinion is more just than anyone else's."-I can say the same about you.
"Why don't you use all that energy taking care of your own country and nation and stop throwing dirt at others."-I am acually taking care of my nation (part of my nation living abroad). I will throw dirt on Lithuania as long as your country will repress polish minorty and insult Poland and Poles.
@khulik Well, then you leave me with no choice but to throw all that dirt back at you for all the slander, lies and false info broadcasted by polish media. Have a closer look at what's going on in your country. You ex prime minister Kaczynski denied that germans living in Silecia are truly germans and he also claimed that they're not even a minority! How nationalistic is that?
Lies, because mr. Songaiła and his anti-polish nazi band says something diffrent than polish media.
I have in ass polish media, I am taking infos from Poles living in Lithuania.
"How nationalistic is that?"-Kaczyński is idiot and 80% Poles knew this. After Smoleńsk crash, he should go to mental hospital. In Poland he is almost ended. In Lithuania hipocritical nationalists have better and better.
@khulik ...selling good a marketplace and thinks that she's always right and her opinion is more just than anyone else's. Why don't you use all that energy taking care of your own country and nation and stop throwing dirt at others.
@WarIsNeverPretty have a look here w w w . antologija.lt/texts/11/main.html, he did not only speak Lithuanian, he also wrote in Lithuanian, unlike you, he loved all the nations of GDL and Poland, you should learn from him.
@Qongrat We got our ethnic lands and even some were taken like Lida,Gardinas and such but Belarus got that territory as a gift.Belarus is a nation which only started to exist in 19 c. Also we may call our ethnicity Balts now but we called ourselves Aiščiai.About Vilnius.Vilnius was always full of Lithuanian even if it was polonized Polish people in Vilnius were polonized so they are basically Lithuanians in denial and you sir are a moron and a pshek.
"but Belarus got that territory as a gift.Belarus is a nation which only started to exist in 19 c"-same as your nation.
"Vilnius was always full of Lithuanian even if it was polonized"-before 1918 there were no such place like "Vilnius". There was "Wilna", "Wilno", "Vilnaus", never "Vilnius".
"pshek"-the fact, that you call him a "pshek" (Pole), makes him much worth than you are, you shituanian scum.
@khulik same as your nation.--So then I guess GDL never existed in your perspective...
before 1918 there were no such place like "Vilnius". There was "Wilna", "Wilno", "Vilnaus", never "Vilnius".----I wonder how Gediminas called it when he built it then...He was Lithuanian and he was the one who built Vilnius.
shituanian---It is good to know that when the Baltic nation of Sarmatia existed Poland was created by us to defend against Germans...Poland was always in history a thief and a aferist.
shituanians.. give a proof of a sarmation nation in the baltic area :D hahaha.. Poland was created by zmudz people... that ones that pissed on wooden blocks and had no language ?? nice try... LOOL
@PolskiHetman Lithuania's language is much older than your mongol bable...Go to google and write in Delfi Atpildas and look at Sarmatian maps you retard...Every where you will see that Sarmatia is in GDL lands or in Lithuania.
you know shit... go and read about sarmatism...sarmats were iranien/turkic tribes... also some of the polish szlachta called themselves as descendants of sarmats... but sarmatia has nothing to do with lithuania... i am really sorry for you... the culture in lithuania was created by polish and belorussians nobles... just accept that zmuds alwasy were and will be pawns... okay ?
@PolskiHetman You just turned down what we believe and you just started babeling something about others making our culture and you are supposing I should accept the lies they tell you and the propaganda that you believe?
"the culture in lithuania was created by polish and belorussians nobles" wow...Polish nobles must be very old considering they probably existed in 10 c BC huh ? are you that retarded? Can't you just accept that you live in a country of lies and malipulation of people?
the one who is lying is you.. you have no answer. the idea of sarmatism was born in medieval times but there is no proof that sarmats really lived in the baltic area..bullshit
@PolskiHetman Well Sarmatia was a real nation,many countries accepted it.King Arthur was from a Sarmatian tribe and rode to battle with Alans.Sarmatia was matriarchal which was ruled by women because they knew that women are the birth givers.Sarmatia was a real nation.Let's stop cursing now and talk about Sarmatia like civilized people.
King Arthur could be lengendar king of England (same as Piast in Poland), Scotland. His legendar castle was named Avalon. Very baltic name isn't it? Avalonas. XD
The number of legends about Arthur is bigger than number of European states.
"Sarmatia was a real nation."-I repeat: nations were born during Englightment, in XVIII century. Earlier were tribes, and multi-ethnic kingdoms and dutches.
Yes, GDL existed. By Lithuanian nation not. It was tribe. Nations in nowadays meaning started creationing in XVIII century, Your nation started in 2nd half of XIX century, while polish nation was known in 1st half of XVIII century
"as created by us to defend against Germans"-who's your dealer?
@khulik Lithuanian was already a nation when Mindaugas was crowned.The Polish nation was created by Sarmatia (Balts) to protect against Germans thats why you have a white eagle for a flag.
Yep, then polish nation have more than 1000 years.
Do you know, what "nation" means?
"Sarmatia (Balts)"-LOL Sarmatians weren't Balts. They were living on territory from which came Slavs...
I don't tell, that they WERE Slavs, but for sure they weren't Balts.
"against Germans thats why you have a white eagle for a flag."-and what have white eagle to this? America, Russia and Mexico have eagels too, without talking about Serbia (defending Balts from Poles and Russians?).
@khulik I am using the word nation to mean anything but a disorderly group of people.I am sorry for using it the wrong way.I could of meant kingdom or anything else,but considering Sarmatia was matriarchal it could have been Baltic and Slavic nations united.
You can use "nation" even as "peacock" if you want. But you know good, that nation is an ethnic group+(maybe) citizens of home country (Germans in Poland and Poles in Lithuania too).
"Baltic and Slavic"-rather Indoeuropean. In ages B.C. diffrences between Slavs and Balts could be minimal.
@khulik Anegdota:Kiedy polacy wyrzucali niemcow ze swoich rodzinnych miast,jeden polski nowy kolonista pyta bylego wlasciciela majatku czy ja moze u pana wziąć wasze pozostawione meble i inne rzeczy.Na to pytanie stary niemec dal polakowi odpowiec:Z mojego domu mozesz zabrac wszystko,nawet mozesz wyciąć caly sad,ale tobie proszę tylko o jednym zostaw jedno drzewo.Polak pyta u niemca dlaczego: Bo kiedy ja wroce spowrotem będzie gdzie mial ciebie powiesić na drzewie .
@IQ145 I'm was mistake! He wrote on "polish"! Why?! Because in books by Adam have belarusian emphasis! even your Polish scientists have proved it! His daughter said: "Do not just listen to us, he sighed that we have a colorless, chuzhazemski accent, he would like to hear from our lips the language of song, Litvinskaya (belarusian), which was dearer to him all!" This author and belarusian, and polish, but he very like his motherland and belarusian language!
@GladkyAndrey you know the names of the grandparents, the family (mom, dad) Mickiewicz ? You can show the works written in Lithuanian, Belarusian? You have that evidence wrote in a language other Than Polish? you know the history of his country?
@IQ145 "Son of an impoverished nobleman Mikołaj Mickiewicz (1765-1812), a lawyer in Novogrudok (modern Belarus); name Miscavige, like several other names of Polish gentry - belarusian descent, on behalf of Zmіtser (Dmitry)"
@IQ145 Wrong, do some research, there are handwritten notes of Mickiewicz in Lithuanian language, do some research. His published works are, though, only in Polish that is true.
Gerbiamieji komentatoriai, vizijoje niekada nebus neigiamos informacijos, nes vizija - optimistine prognoze ateityje. Jus turbut jeigu esate depresijoje pastoviai ar siaip negaluojate tai nesuvokiate, bet jeigu klipe bus rodoma ir neigiama informacija, tai koks tada tikslas is vis gyventi? Parodykim to nemokam, to nemokam, tai kam tada is vis kazka keisti? Tegu buna senos gatves, senos duobes ir nieko nekeiskim, arba daug graziu ideju sugalvot ir megint igyvendint. Cia yra vizija kaip reklama TV
......The city was first mentioned in written sources in 1323 as the capital city of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in the letters of Gediminas. Gediminas built his wooden castle on a hill in the city. The city became more widely known after he wrote a circular letter of invitation to Germans and Jews to the principal Hansa towns in 1325, offering free access into his domains to men of every order and profession. .....
Grazus planai... Taciau dabartiniu laikotarpiu igyvendint juos visus butu neimanoma... 2007 metais jau turejo atsinaujint oro uostas. Na as nebuvau ten, bet kiek zinau, labai mazai ten kas pasikeite... Gakiu pasakyt atejo krize - visiem projektam pz... :DDD
this clip explains how in Vilnius everything they plan to do they are going to do. I have been to Lithuania countless times and this video is true i have seen most of the building that you saw, being constructed and completed. There is a water park in Vilnius and i would say it is probably the best in Europe, it is called vinchy water park . you should really try and visit the country.
most of the things that you say are completed were completed even before the video was made, the rest of the things are just dreams that lithuanians will never be able to realize without foreign help. That i hope they will never receive as they are corrupted and are stealing a lot of the european's money they are receiving. I live here, i don't travel here from time to time and i know how the things goes. so don't talk about things you don't know.
Also what I meant to say was that yes not all the stuff they say will happen. And I know about the govermant until the old generation die off there will always be a corrupt govermant in lietuva. Oh and don't freat cause if you are young enough then you might see the end off this crap,so calm you'r self down. I am from britain and the members of the parliment were stealing the tax payers money. And no one new until reacently.
As tai manau kad visi miestai yra miestai ir ten gal lygiai taip pat grazu kaip Vilniui, man as meniskai cia graziausia, gal del to kad cia gyvenu, bet tikrai manau kad tiek Alytus, Panevezys, tiek Siauliai ar Kaunas yra irgi labai grazus ir galbut kazkam jie patys graziausi. Chebra, mes gi visi lietuviai, ko nestovim viens uz kita?
It's Wilno in polish, Vilnus in Lithuanian. And if you say, that IT WAS ALWAYS Lithuanian city, you are telling shit. I don't want Wilno back to Poland, but it mades me angry Lithuanian and Ukrainian propaganda, that Vilnus was always Lithuanian (it was multicultural) as well as Lwów Ukrainian. As I said I don't want Vilnus back, but Lwów yes. With what Ukrainians deserved on this polish city?
@khulikSee you try to hide behind word multi cultural to make it seem like it is part polish. It was founded by Lithuanians and it was always part of Lithuania until 1795. Before WW1 people in Lithuania didnt give a shit about language they spoke, as language wasnt used as a way of identifying nationality of a person Therefore they spoke polish and russian aswell. Good example of this is Adam Mickiewic , he wrote about lithuania "Litwo! Ojczyzno moja! ty jestes jak zdrowie”
Multi-cultural? Ok, if this words doesn't match you to situation, I'l name them. XIV-XVII centuries-city mainly Ruthenian. XVII-XX cenury (shortly after II WW)-city with polish culture, mixed with Jewish. After Ponary massacre and sending Poles to new Pomeranian Voivodship, city partly Lithuanian, but still there are a lot of Poles there.
Ruthenians and Lithuanians? Lithuanians yes, build borders and cities, but they conquered huge nation, which was majorty. All were called Lithuanians.
Nice facade, but unfortunately there is nothing in this video about discrimination against Poles in Lithuania country. To get a real idea about what's going on in the country watch this short documentary youtube DOT com /watch?v=2RyX5vX9Qfs
Polvenger 2 months ago
If you mean by attack, not using foreign alphabets in official Lithuania documents and signage, then that applies to almost every other nationality on the planet whose system of writing is unlike the one used in Lithuanian, not just Poles, but Greeks, English or Chinese. It is the same in all the countries mostly.
If you mean slander and stuff like that, then SOME Lithuanians do so, but really they attack anyone, even other Lithuanians too. Idiots and bigots are found in every country.
Qongrat 9 months ago
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GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
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Qongrat 5 months ago
@GladkyAndrey Do you know, that A Smetona, not only attacked Belorusians, but also other Lithuanians like Basanavicius and his followers who opposed Smetona's German supported propaganda with invention of Balts and with his ultra-nationalistic policies of the government back then. True Lithuanian patriots had to escape to Vilnius for protection under Poles from our stupid president Smetona. Those were sad times and sadly Smetona's lies and propaganda is still strong now in Lithuania
Qongrat 5 months ago
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GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey
Exacly. Now try to tell this to these Nazi-Samogitians, who look at themselves as only ancestors of GDL.
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik mate just before you diss Samogitians, remember that the ruler of Poland was, as you say, a Nazi-Samogitian, called Piłsudski.
Qongrat 5 months ago
@Qongrat
This "Samogitian" somehow had lithuania in ass.
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik Deny it all you want but the whole Piłsudsk clan is from the Samogitian village of Pilsūdai, in Tauragė district, Jozef’s daddy bought a little estate in Zalavas and that is the only reason why Jozef wasn’t born in Żmudź, but he was a true żmudź, and as Lithuanians say: once a żmudź always a żmudź. Deal with it mate.
Qongrat 5 months ago
@Qongrat
I don't have to. Piłsudski served Poland and somehow for Lithuanians cannot understand this.
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik Pilsudski was a great man, and sadly a larger part of Lithuanians are still brainwashed with the same German propaganda that in 1918 A. Smetona used. A. Smetona's ideas and his selfish ultra-nationalist sadly still live on, not all Lithuanians are like them but Poles only hear about those idiots and then you think that all Lithuanians are retarded, and that is exactly what Moscow wants, Poland and Lithuania to fight each other. Could Poles be less absolutist in their judgements?
Qongrat 5 months ago
@Qongrat Zinai kur gali savo Pilsucki susikisti sau i subine.Nezinau kas tamsta esate bet lietuviu tautos jums juodinti nepavyks.Kas liecia Smetona tai jis paliginus su Fasistu Pilsuckiu buvo tikras angelas,ir i svetimas teritorijas nesidaire,ko nepasakysi apie Lenkijos imperelistinius keslus.O apie dabartine skleidziama Lenkijos agresyve melo propoganda liudija paskutiniu menesiu ivykiai.Ne veltui Cercilis Lenkija buvo pavadines Europos giena kuri is patikiu puola savo kaimynus/
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2 Smetona tai jau tikrai nebuvo angelas, jis buvo gudrus ir apsukrus savanaudis, kai kad ir visi jo ištikimieji tuo metu. Jis įsakė Lietuvai nesipriešinti prieš komunistus neskaitant to kad Lietuvos kariuomenė buvo daug stipresnė negu Suomijos, ir mes žinom kas atsitiko Suomijoje sovietams. Nuo jo bėgo Basanavičius bijodamas persekiojimų. Geras jis buvo tas laisvasis mūrininkas. Bet tai aišku yra mano nuomonė apie tai ką aš sužinojau apie Smetoną, ir suprantu kad ji neatitinka jūsų.
Qongrat 5 months ago
@Qongrat 1) Tu greiciausiai esi skaites knyga arba istrauka is tos knygos kuria parases zmogus buvo sodriai prafinansuotas lenkiskuju strukturu ,kurio paistalais siektiek daugiau zinanciam zmogui Lietuvos to meto istorija darosi koktuja skaityti,:angliškai parašyta T.Balkelio knyga( griauna istorijos mitus).Atgimstant Lietuvai ir prasidejus atgimimo bangai issivaduojant is ilgalaikes polonizacijos gniauztu,jau tuo metu jaunoji Lietuva.
robisx2 5 months ago
@Qongrat Do you know,that you are retarded ?Smetona nationalist? You just confirmed that psheks like you know nothing about patriotism.Well if the first thing that came to mind when you tought about Smetona is Fascist you do need some psychic help sir.You can shove that Pilsūka to your own ass.Oh and did you forget what already happened in the last month ? huh? or did you "forget" ? Oh and Smetona attacked Belarussians ?
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes Yes, sure mate, whatever tickles your testicles. You have a nice day now. Oh, just one final thought, perhaps anger management classes woud help you. Enjoy.
Qongrat 5 months ago
@DelTevynes Tu vakas gal pasigilink, kai paaugsi ir pradėsi sugebėti mastyti be jausmų, į istoriją, kur ir kas ištikro įvyko vietoj to kad klausytum kažkieno kito išvedžiojimų sumaišytų su neapykantos nuodais kad kitiems smegenis pudruotu. Žmonės yr žmonės, ir nesvarbu as jie lietuviai ar ne, brudų visur būna, ir Smetona buvo brudas, nors prieštai jis bovo mano herojus. Nu kas žino, gal aš klystu ir jis vėl taps mano heroju (?)
Qongrat 5 months ago
@Qongrat 2) susidure su masyviu to meto Lenkijos propogandine melo masina,kuri skleide mela Lietuvos atgimino patriarcha Jona Basanaviciu pavadine Rusijos agentu bandanciu lietuviu atgimimu susilpninti Lenkijos valstybe kuri turejo atgimti nuo juros iki juros,toliau Lietuviu kalbininka Jona Jablonski paskelbe Kaizerines Vokietijos spijonu,kuris sunormino literatūrinę lietuvių kalbą,jis perejo nuo tarmių prie bendrinės kalbos vartosenos.
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2 Dėkui už žinias.
Qongrat 2 months ago
@Qongrat 3) Kas liecia Jona Basanaviciu tai jis ir suformavo suki ( MES BE VILNIAUS NENURIMSIM)po to kaip buvo jega atplestas is Lietuvos Vilnius, jis savo noru pasiliko Vilniuje,joks Smetona jo nepersekiojo.Apie tai daug yra literaturos kuria galima perskaityti.O jums yra zinomas pasakymas mano prieso priesas taps mano sajunginiku,tai cia tau butu atsakymas del ko praleido Lietuva rusu armija,pries tai gavusi i kaulus nuo lietuviu savanoriu priverte Rusija pasirasyti taikos sutarti su Lietuva .
robisx2 5 months ago
@Qongrat Pažiurėkite kas prašneko apie neapykanta.
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes Dėkui už pastabą, teisybė. Atsiprašau.
Qongrat 2 months ago
@Qongrat MYKOLAS BIRŽIŠKA ( VILNIAUS GOLGOTA )
Okupuotas Lietuvos lietuvių darbo ir
kančių 1919-1928 metų dienoraštis.
Vietoj to kad jūs skaitote visokio plauko šarlatanus jūms vertėtu perskaityti Mykolo Biržiškos atsiminimų knygą.
robisx2 5 months ago
@khulik ja widze biez nas wam trudno.I snowu klutne idži.No mial nas w dupie,no co robicz?jak žemaičui-lietuvui neh bendže na jego sumieniu.Pszežiliszmi i bez jego.A ježely on was mial w dupie jaka byla by PL?pytane jest otwarte..............
Notanga0920 5 months ago
@Notanga0920
Od tego czasu ignoruję to co do mnie mówisz, z racji tego, że mnie ty mnie ignorujesz.
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik s jakej pory ja to robe?
Notanga0920 5 months ago
@Notanga0920
Od czasu, kiedy ci powiedziałem coś na temat twojego cofniętego umysłowo pieseczka-robisx2.
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik 3)Jeszcze Polska nie zginela
Jednak widać koniec
Nawet wasze wschódnie kresy
Teraz będzie niepotrzebne
A będziecie wy ratowac
Swoje Polskie dupy.
Idźcie uczyć się ruskiego,
Będzie wam potrzebny
A kto uczyć się nie zechce,
Będzie niepotrzebny.
robisx2 5 months ago
@khulik Dzikus Żydopolak z JUDENPOLAND zamknij swoj ryj gnoju jebany.Niech zyje wolny Slask.Wyjebac wszystkie polskie kurwy stont. Polen raus aus Schlesien ,Polen raus aus Suvalkai.
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
oddajcie wilno zlodzieje zmudzinskie
PolskiHetman 5 months ago
@PolskiHetman Chuj ci w łeb a nie Wilno ZYDOPOLAK jebany.Nic, przyjdzie czas kiedy my z niemcami podzielimy ŻYDOPOLAND, niemcom Schlesie a nam SUVALKAI.
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
wy musicie zawsze na pomoc innych liczyc ? wyslemy elite naszych chuliganow i Wilno wroci do macierzycy a zmudzino beda u nas autostrady budowac ty cwelu jebany
PolskiHetman 5 months ago
@PolskiHetman Tylko pomylkowo powiedziales chuju jebany, wy napewno wrócicie,ale do Buchenwaldu gdzie was będzie czekac kamerki gazowe wy gnojowy naród untermenszow.
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
ja bym zmudzinow do komory gazowej nie wsadzil.. co ty.. szkoda gazu tylko... taniej bedzie was powiesic kolo naszych nowych autostrad, a mianowicie do Wilna..
PolskiHetman 5 months ago
@PolskiHetman Anegdota:Kiedy polacy wyrzucali niemcow ze swoich rodzinnych miast,jeden polski nowy kolonista pyta bylego wlasciciela majatku czy ja moze u pana wziąć wasze pozostawione meble i inne rzeczy.Na to pytanie stary niemec dal polakowi odpowiec:Z mojego domu mozesz zabrac wszystko,nawet mozesz wyciąć caly sad,ale tobie proszę tylko o jednym zostaw jedno drzewo.Polak pyta u niemca dlaczego: Bo kiedy ja wroce spowrotem będzie gdzie mial ciebie powiesić na drzewie .
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
mamy rok 2011 i niemcy nie wrocili.. i nie wroca. ty sie obawiaj ze bedziesz na galezi z ptaszkami spiewal.. buehehehe
PolskiHetman 5 months ago
@PolskiHetman W 45 zabrali nam nasz kraj.
Pozwalają od tego czasu tym ziemiom się zasyfić
Bo przeczuwają w glębi przez cały czas.
Że wrócimy z powrotem w honorowych mundurach w kolorze feldgrau.
Kiedy polska flota zatonie pod Gdańskiem.
I niemiecka piosenka zabrzmi w Malborku.
Wtedy do Wrocławia wkroczy Wehrmacht z oddziałami pancernymi.
I wtedy w końcu Wschodnie Niemcy wrócą z powrotem do ojczyzny.
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
O, to już wam się Diktatura skończyła, i wasze gówniane móżdżki nic nie potrafią wymyślić nowego, więc sięgacie po klasykę podludzi po zach. stronie Odry?
khulik 5 months ago
@robisx2
robisx2, zaraz twoje genitalia zmienią sie w bezkształtną mase krwi i kości.
Życze ci świeżutkiego klotza na klate oraz żeby cie stary przestał molestować, wszystkiego najgorszego i takiego garba że sznurówki będziesz wiązał na stojąco, żeby ci karp chuja ujebał zboczeńcu i żebyś wkońcu przestał molestować niemowlaki ty zakurwiały jak kurwa patałachu.
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik 2)Marsz, marsz Kom'rowski,
Z ziemi Polskiej do Rosji.
Za jego przewodem
Skończymy z narodem.
Jak Kom-rowski do Pałacu,
Po trupie Kaczora.
Tak narodem posteruje,
Będzie po zaborach!
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
Zrobie ci z ryja parking dla ciężarówek ty trędowaty brudny rzepie.
Temperuj patyka i manewruj pociągiem azbestowy wujkojebco.
Zaraz twoje genitalia zmienią sie w bezkształtną mase krwi i kości.
Masz dupsko jak słonica po zalotach słonia.
Powiedz swojej pierdolnej matce żeby nie zmieniała tak często koloru szminki bo mam już kurwa tęcze na chuju.
khulik 5 months ago
@robisx2
Twarzowe zapłaciłeś, że z taką mordą popierdalasz?
Wyglądasz jakbyś zjadł stęchłe łożyska brudnych cyganek ty zaspermiony walcu drogowy!
Jesteś wyruchanym rodzynem bengalskiej świni, ździeraj skóre na rumaku koci rzygu.
Kulaj smara zryty pierdopędzie w dupe charatany przez bandę trędowatych zapałek.
Masz zgrzybiałego fiuta ty damski zwisie międzynożny.
Chcesz zobaczyć kosmite? to spójrz w lustro!
Jesteś zaspermionym odpryskiem nocnika, taszcz berło ciporyjcu!
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik oho,oho khuliku pierwszyj raz takiego was widze,troche wolniej wolniej chlopcze.
Notanga0920 5 months ago
@Notanga0920
Nie pouczaj, "dziadziusiu". Do niego nie docierają sensowne argumenty, to mamy flamewar.
khulik 5 months ago
Życze ci życze ci by cie jebał nosorożec, by cie napastował cały dworzec, częstych kąpieli z tatą, dużo rodzynów w dupie a ponadto moszne na plecach, żeby ci chuja do odkurzacza wessało, chuja na czole, złamania karku ty zafajdany koguci prąciu.
Życze ci pachnącego klotza, czopsa w klate i penisa pod pachą ty odchodzie.
Z okazji tych świąt życze ci trzeciego taty, bo dwóch ci nie wystarcza i wielu schyleń w męskim WC i klotza na klacie, żeby ci przeszły te wrzody na chuju.
khulik 5 months ago
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@khulik Kiedy polacy wyrzucali niemcow ze swoich rodzinnych miast,jeden polski nowy kolonista pyta bylego wlasciciela majatku czy ja moze u pana wziąć wasze pozostawione meble i inne rzeczy.Na to pytanie stary niemec dal polakowi odpowiec:Z mojego domu mozesz zabrac wszystko,nawet mozesz wyciąć caly sad,ale tobie proszę tylko o jednym zostaw jedno drzewo.Polak pyta u niemca dlaczego: Bo kiedy ja wroce spowrotem będzie gdzie mial ciebie powiesić na drzewie .
robisx2 5 months ago
@khulik 1)Jeszcze Polska nie zginela
Ale zginąć musi
Co cholera nie potrafi
To litwin wydusze
Teraz Polska dogorywa,
Jednak widać koniec.
Już się zbliża zjednoczenie
Z braterską Rosją.
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
jestes cienki gosc... jak kazdy zmudzin... kopiujesz tekst "Marienburg" LOOL brak ci argumentow cwelu ?
PolskiHetman 5 months ago
@robisx2
A wtedy Niemcy podzielą was z Rosją? XD
O, a opowiesz mi jeszcze o jednorożcach?
khulik 5 months ago
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@khulik Scheiss judenpolacken raus aus Silesiens.Scheiss polacken war keine europäer,nur schmutziger untermenschen sind.FEI SCHLESIEN.!!!...FEI SCHLESIEN!!!...FEI SCHLESIEN !!!
robisx2 5 months ago
@khulik Dla nas pojęcie zyd czy polak jest ten samy narod.A was brzydkich brudasow azjackich trzeba deportowac z terenow europejskich na Bliski Wschód do Izraelu gdzie razem z zydami znajdziecie wspolny język, bo jest nie do pojęcia ze jakiś brudne i gnojne azjaci mieszkali wśród europejczyków .
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
Kolejne trafne porównanie lietuzwisa :) Wiesz, jeśli miałeś na myśli Japończyków, to to nie jest obelga, bo to bardzo pracowity, mądry i cywilizowany naród.
Co więcej-sorki, ale to wy jesteście bardziej wysunięci w stronę Mongolii.
khulik 5 months ago
@robisx2
Jak już mówiłem-Żydzi osiedlali się w cywilizowanych krajach. Na Litwie osiedlili się dopiero wtedy, gdy pojawili się tam Polacy.
"Suvalkai"-co to jest? Coś do jedzenia? XD
khulik 5 months ago
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@khulik Dzikus Żydopolak z JUDENPOLAND zamknij swoj ryj gnoju jebany.Niech zyje wolny Slask.Wyjebac wszystkie polskie kurwy stont. Polen raus aus Schlesien ,Polen raus aus Suvalkai.
robisx2 5 months ago
@robisx2
robisx2,
Życze ci moszne na plecach, żebyś miał osobne łóżko z tatą oraz żeby ci pielucho-majtek zabrakło i grzyba na kutasie, pryszcza na dupie, żeby ci karp chuja ujebał zboczeńcu, lepszego kompa, bo przecież commodorki już dawno wyszły z mody i mniej pryszczy na nosie ty zapyziały szczochu.
Życze ci mniejszej dupy oraz złamania karku, świeżutkiego klotzuszka pod choinką a ponadto trzeciego taty, bo dwóch ci nie wystarcza...
khulik 5 months ago
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GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
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And at the end of the Soviet Union - have 500-550 thousand people. Therefore, the Belarusian population in Vilnius is not actually exist, except in rural areas - the deportation and repression they have not touched, the Lithuanians were the main city pick up, and Stalin, of course, agreed to.
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
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Qongrat 5 months ago
@GladkyAndrey Just for your knowledge, Zemaitijan language is more similar to Belorusian, than the Lithuanian language that Lithuanians speak in Vilnius region. Lithuanians even find it hard to understand Zemaitijans without translation.One more thing, Zemaitijans don't even consider themselves to be Lithuanian as they see themsleves as a seperate ethnic group and culture in the most western part of Lithuania and their region doesn't even reach Kaunas, let alone Vilnius.
Qongrat 5 months ago
Mickiewicz write only in Polish language.
IQ145 1 year ago
@IQ145 Not true. Do some more research and you will find that he's written a lot of poems in Lithuanian.
WarIsNeverPretty 1 year ago
@WarIsNeverPretty Give an example...
IQ145 1 year ago
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Qongrat 5 months ago
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@IQ145 @IQ145 here is a copy of his handwritten note in Lithuanian w w w .antologija.lt/scan_img/11.jpg
Qongrat 5 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty
....while he even didn't spoke Lithuanian?
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik How do you know if he spoke Lithuanian or not? Have you spoken to him in person? You see, history is such complicated thing that there actually is no single truth that all the historians with agree to. There are many versions of history. Some claim that he actually did speak Lithuanian because back then some have seen him speak to Lithuanian farmers in Lithuanian, but yet it's just another version and nothing more. Conclusion: Plausible.
WarIsNeverPretty 10 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty
Nationalists can make many stories. I heard, that Mickiewicz used even word "Samogitians" when he spoke about Balitc Lithuanians.
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik And here you go again with the nationalist thing...
How come you just just don't get bored with it? Nationalist here, nationalist there... it's like nationalists everywhere considering what you type in the comments. Get over it, dude! It's not 1939, it's 2011 now.
WarIsNeverPretty 10 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty
Great! Now tell this to Lithuanian teachers, who named some days ago polish children "Hitlerjugend"... and a few days later in Wilno (Vilnus) and Kowno (Kaunas) somebody hanged Nazi flags with descriptions "Hitler was right" in Lithuanian.
It's not Poland who behave today like country from 20' of XX century.
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik WOW! You're more of an asshole than I actually thought. You're obviously no lawyer and you definitely do not know that in every democratic state it's constitution establishes a right to form a subjective-personal opinion. That was simply a school principal's opinion, which cannot form any legal consequences for that matter and hanging those nazi flags was nothing more, but a disturbance of a public peace commited by a group of immature teenagers. You're like a woman selling good at a....
WarIsNeverPretty 10 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty
And you are like stealing policeman.
"she's always right and her opinion is more just than anyone else's."-I can say the same about you.
"Why don't you use all that energy taking care of your own country and nation and stop throwing dirt at others."-I am acually taking care of my nation (part of my nation living abroad). I will throw dirt on Lithuania as long as your country will repress polish minorty and insult Poland and Poles.
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik Well, then you leave me with no choice but to throw all that dirt back at you for all the slander, lies and false info broadcasted by polish media. Have a closer look at what's going on in your country. You ex prime minister Kaczynski denied that germans living in Silecia are truly germans and he also claimed that they're not even a minority! How nationalistic is that?
WarIsNeverPretty 10 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty
Lies, because mr. Songaiła and his anti-polish nazi band says something diffrent than polish media.
I have in ass polish media, I am taking infos from Poles living in Lithuania.
"How nationalistic is that?"-Kaczyński is idiot and 80% Poles knew this. After Smoleńsk crash, he should go to mental hospital. In Poland he is almost ended. In Lithuania hipocritical nationalists have better and better.
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik ...selling good a marketplace and thinks that she's always right and her opinion is more just than anyone else's. Why don't you use all that energy taking care of your own country and nation and stop throwing dirt at others.
WarIsNeverPretty 10 months ago
@khulik goods*
WarIsNeverPretty 10 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty
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khulik 10 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty
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khulik 10 months ago
@khulik I'm agree with you, but Adam Mickievicz it's belarusian writer))
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey
Yeah, and Mikołaj Kopernik was a woman?
khulik 10 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty have a look here w w w . antologija.lt/texts/11/main.html, he did not only speak Lithuanian, he also wrote in Lithuanian, unlike you, he loved all the nations of GDL and Poland, you should learn from him.
Qongrat 5 months ago
@khulik but he could write in Lithuanian, that is crazy man, how could he write in Lithuanian if he didn't speak it?
Qongrat 5 months ago
@Qongrat We got our ethnic lands and even some were taken like Lida,Gardinas and such but Belarus got that territory as a gift.Belarus is a nation which only started to exist in 19 c. Also we may call our ethnicity Balts now but we called ourselves Aiščiai.About Vilnius.Vilnius was always full of Lithuanian even if it was polonized Polish people in Vilnius were polonized so they are basically Lithuanians in denial and you sir are a moron and a pshek.
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes
"but Belarus got that territory as a gift.Belarus is a nation which only started to exist in 19 c"-same as your nation.
"Vilnius was always full of Lithuanian even if it was polonized"-before 1918 there were no such place like "Vilnius". There was "Wilna", "Wilno", "Vilnaus", never "Vilnius".
"pshek"-the fact, that you call him a "pshek" (Pole), makes him much worth than you are, you shituanian scum.
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik same as your nation.--So then I guess GDL never existed in your perspective...
before 1918 there were no such place like "Vilnius". There was "Wilna", "Wilno", "Vilnaus", never "Vilnius".----I wonder how Gediminas called it when he built it then...He was Lithuanian and he was the one who built Vilnius.
shituanian---It is good to know that when the Baltic nation of Sarmatia existed Poland was created by us to defend against Germans...Poland was always in history a thief and a aferist.
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes
shituanians.. give a proof of a sarmation nation in the baltic area :D hahaha.. Poland was created by zmudz people... that ones that pissed on wooden blocks and had no language ?? nice try... LOOL
PolskiHetman 5 months ago
@PolskiHetman Lithuania's language is much older than your mongol bable...Go to google and write in Delfi Atpildas and look at Sarmatian maps you retard...Every where you will see that Sarmatia is in GDL lands or in Lithuania.
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes
you know shit... go and read about sarmatism...sarmats were iranien/turkic tribes... also some of the polish szlachta called themselves as descendants of sarmats... but sarmatia has nothing to do with lithuania... i am really sorry for you... the culture in lithuania was created by polish and belorussians nobles... just accept that zmuds alwasy were and will be pawns... okay ?
PolskiHetman 5 months ago
@PolskiHetman You just turned down what we believe and you just started babeling something about others making our culture and you are supposing I should accept the lies they tell you and the propaganda that you believe?
"the culture in lithuania was created by polish and belorussians nobles" wow...Polish nobles must be very old considering they probably existed in 10 c BC huh ? are you that retarded? Can't you just accept that you live in a country of lies and malipulation of people?
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes
the one who is lying is you.. you have no answer. the idea of sarmatism was born in medieval times but there is no proof that sarmats really lived in the baltic area..bullshit
PolskiHetman 5 months ago
@PolskiHetman Well Sarmatia was a real nation,many countries accepted it.King Arthur was from a Sarmatian tribe and rode to battle with Alans.Sarmatia was matriarchal which was ruled by women because they knew that women are the birth givers.Sarmatia was a real nation.Let's stop cursing now and talk about Sarmatia like civilized people.
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes
LOL You're believing in American films?
King Arthur could be lengendar king of England (same as Piast in Poland), Scotland. His legendar castle was named Avalon. Very baltic name isn't it? Avalonas. XD
The number of legends about Arthur is bigger than number of European states.
"Sarmatia was a real nation."-I repeat: nations were born during Englightment, in XVIII century. Earlier were tribes, and multi-ethnic kingdoms and dutches.
khulik 5 months ago
@DelTevynes
Yes, GDL existed. By Lithuanian nation not. It was tribe. Nations in nowadays meaning started creationing in XVIII century, Your nation started in 2nd half of XIX century, while polish nation was known in 1st half of XVIII century
"as created by us to defend against Germans"-who's your dealer?
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik Lithuanian was already a nation when Mindaugas was crowned.The Polish nation was created by Sarmatia (Balts) to protect against Germans thats why you have a white eagle for a flag.
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes
Yep, then polish nation have more than 1000 years.
Do you know, what "nation" means?
"Sarmatia (Balts)"-LOL Sarmatians weren't Balts. They were living on territory from which came Slavs...
I don't tell, that they WERE Slavs, but for sure they weren't Balts.
"against Germans thats why you have a white eagle for a flag."-and what have white eagle to this? America, Russia and Mexico have eagels too, without talking about Serbia (defending Balts from Poles and Russians?).
khulik 5 months ago
@DelTevynes
Don't you understand ONE SIMPLE WORD? Is definition of "nation" so hard for you?
In X century in the Central and Eastern Europe were only tribes. Nations in nowadays meanings started creatioing themselves in XVIII century.
khulik 5 months ago
@khulik I am using the word nation to mean anything but a disorderly group of people.I am sorry for using it the wrong way.I could of meant kingdom or anything else,but considering Sarmatia was matriarchal it could have been Baltic and Slavic nations united.
DelTevynes 5 months ago
@DelTevynes Tribes * not nations... I misspelled again.
DelTevynes 5 months ago
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@DelTevynes
You can use "nation" even as "peacock" if you want. But you know good, that nation is an ethnic group+(maybe) citizens of home country (Germans in Poland and Poles in Lithuania too).
"Baltic and Slavic"-rather Indoeuropean. In ages B.C. diffrences between Slavs and Balts could be minimal.
khulik 5 months ago
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@khulik Anegdota:Kiedy polacy wyrzucali niemcow ze swoich rodzinnych miast,jeden polski nowy kolonista pyta bylego wlasciciela majatku czy ja moze u pana wziąć wasze pozostawione meble i inne rzeczy.Na to pytanie stary niemec dal polakowi odpowiec:Z mojego domu mozesz zabrac wszystko,nawet mozesz wyciąć caly sad,ale tobie proszę tylko o jednym zostaw jedno drzewo.Polak pyta u niemca dlaczego: Bo kiedy ja wroce spowrotem będzie gdzie mial ciebie powiesić na drzewie .
robisx2 5 months ago
@Qongrat
Show me ONE thing writtten by him in your language.
khulik 5 months ago
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@khulik w w w .
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Qongrat 5 months ago
@IQ145 NO. Adam Mickiewicz it's belarusian writer)) He wrote poems on belarusian (60-70%) and polish)
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey
And what did he wrote in Belarussian?
khulik 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey for example ?
IQ145 10 months ago
@IQ145 I'm was mistake! He wrote on "polish"! Why?! Because in books by Adam have belarusian emphasis! even your Polish scientists have proved it! His daughter said: "Do not just listen to us, he sighed that we have a colorless, chuzhazemski accent, he would like to hear from our lips the language of song, Litvinskaya (belarusian), which was dearer to him all!" This author and belarusian, and polish, but he very like his motherland and belarusian language!
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey Mickiewicz wrote in Belarusian, or not ? This is a simple question... what complications ?
IQ145 10 months ago
@IQ145 i'm answered on your question! he wrote on polish with belarusian emphasis! but Mickiewicz very like belarusian land and language!
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey Mickiewicz wrote only in Polish language. Poles like Belarus, have a fondness for her...
IQ145 10 months ago
@IQ145 He litvin! Hе don't polish!
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey you know the names of the grandparents, the family (mom, dad) Mickiewicz ? You can show the works written in Lithuanian, Belarusian? You have that evidence wrote in a language other Than Polish? you know the history of his country?
IQ145 10 months ago
@IQ145 "Son of an impoverished nobleman Mikołaj Mickiewicz (1765-1812), a lawyer in Novogrudok (modern Belarus); name Miscavige, like several other names of Polish gentry - belarusian descent, on behalf of Zmіtser (Dmitry)"
Wilipedia
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey Mother: Barbara Majewska, Polish Legion creator etcetera, etcetera... And where it says that he wrote in Lithuanian or Belarusian ?
IQ145 10 months ago
@IQ145 He wrote on polish with belarusian language elements! And he very like Belarus and belarusian language and towns (Navahrudak, Vilna, Mensk)
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey Repeat ... Give examples ...
IQ145 10 months ago
@IQ145 be-x-old(DOT)wikipedia(DOT)org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%9C%D1%96%D1%86%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%96%D1%87
GladkyAndrey 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey - what is it ?
IQ145 10 months ago
@GladkyAndrey
Yep, but there's problem. Most ppl in that times looked at Nowogródek and Wilno like on typical polish cities.
khulik 9 months ago
@IQ145 Wrong, do some research, there are handwritten notes of Mickiewicz in Lithuanian language, do some research. His published works are, though, only in Polish that is true.
Qongrat 5 months ago
@Qongrat He also wrote in French:) something to prove?
IQ145 5 months ago
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@Qongrat
"Wrong, do some research, there are handwritten notes of Mickiewicz in Lithuanian language, "- Yeah? Show one of them.
khulik 5 months ago
Kas ta Lietuva ? ..... Daznas uzsinieciu klausimas....
forester198604 1 year ago
VISI LIETUVIAI JUNGIAMES I 1 KUMSTI ;))))!!!
litas09 1 year ago
čia dar iki krizės... na bet atsigausim kaip nors :)
neoneoneofu 1 year ago
@neoneoneofu zinoma atsigausim ir dar sustipresim lb ;))) laikykis ;)
litas09 1 year ago
Svarbiausia ar grazus zmones...
ziurke666 1 year ago
gruda viska i vilniu kad lenkam atsiemus maziau reiktu investuoti.
eikpist 2 years ago
Gerbiamieji komentatoriai, vizijoje niekada nebus neigiamos informacijos, nes vizija - optimistine prognoze ateityje. Jus turbut jeigu esate depresijoje pastoviai ar siaip negaluojate tai nesuvokiate, bet jeigu klipe bus rodoma ir neigiama informacija, tai koks tada tikslas is vis gyventi? Parodykim to nemokam, to nemokam, tai kam tada is vis kazka keisti? Tegu buna senos gatves, senos duobes ir nieko nekeiskim, arba daug graziu ideju sugalvot ir megint igyvendint. Cia yra vizija kaip reklama TV
EUcitizenLT 2 years ago 8
......The city was first mentioned in written sources in 1323 as the capital city of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in the letters of Gediminas. Gediminas built his wooden castle on a hill in the city. The city became more widely known after he wrote a circular letter of invitation to Germans and Jews to the principal Hansa towns in 1325, offering free access into his domains to men of every order and profession. .....
EUcitizenLT 2 years ago
Such an exciting future for Vilnius, great to see!!
redumbrellastudios 2 years ago 4
this video makes me laugh out loud
psichikossavaitgalis 2 years ago
Grazus planai... Taciau dabartiniu laikotarpiu igyvendint juos visus butu neimanoma... 2007 metais jau turejo atsinaujint oro uostas. Na as nebuvau ten, bet kiek zinau, labai mazai ten kas pasikeite... Gakiu pasakyt atejo krize - visiem projektam pz... :DDD
aiwux 2 years ago
Oh my gosh what is he saying, I want to understand Lithuanian
valruiz06 2 years ago
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He is saying a lot of bullshit about big projects for what Lithuania doesn't have money.
Teosm 2 years ago
screw you! do u speak the language?
Apolo320 2 years ago
taip kalbu lietuviskai, kodel? gal nori pasakyti kad jus (lietuvai) viskas darysit?
yes i speak lithuanian, why? maybe you want to say that you (lithuanian) will make it all?
don't be ridicolous :-D
Teosm 2 years ago
this clip explains how in Vilnius everything they plan to do they are going to do. I have been to Lithuania countless times and this video is true i have seen most of the building that you saw, being constructed and completed. There is a water park in Vilnius and i would say it is probably the best in Europe, it is called vinchy water park . you should really try and visit the country.
Apolo320 2 years ago 2
most of the things that you say are completed were completed even before the video was made, the rest of the things are just dreams that lithuanians will never be able to realize without foreign help. That i hope they will never receive as they are corrupted and are stealing a lot of the european's money they are receiving. I live here, i don't travel here from time to time and i know how the things goes. so don't talk about things you don't know.
Teosm 2 years ago
the politicians steals, not ordinary people.
MrAmethystium 2 years ago
Also what I meant to say was that yes not all the stuff they say will happen. And I know about the govermant until the old generation die off there will always be a corrupt govermant in lietuva. Oh and don't freat cause if you are young enough then you might see the end off this crap,so calm you'r self down. I am from britain and the members of the parliment were stealing the tax payers money. And no one new until reacently.
Apolo320 2 years ago 2
kodel?
frankmcginn 3 years ago
Klaipeda vistiek geriausia! :D
dovis93 3 years ago
nelabai
DrSniperLT 2 years ago
nu tramvajaus nera
TastyEmo 3 years ago
As tai manau kad visi miestai yra miestai ir ten gal lygiai taip pat grazu kaip Vilniui, man as meniskai cia graziausia, gal del to kad cia gyvenu, bet tikrai manau kad tiek Alytus, Panevezys, tiek Siauliai ar Kaunas yra irgi labai grazus ir galbut kazkam jie patys graziausi. Chebra, mes gi visi lietuviai, ko nestovim viens uz kita?
marelot1 3 years ago 16
butent!
MrAmethystium 2 years ago
vat cia vat tai NT'sniku vizija, tiesiog Vidurvasario nakties sapnas, beda tik kad nebeivyks:)))
pristupas 3 years ago
cia buvo pasakomos tik gerosios puses. o blogosios kur? :)
tasukerusi 3 years ago
gerai skamba, dbr tiktais padarykit viska ;)
DaiMother 3 years ago
vilnius geriausias
LithuaniaArmy 3 years ago
palanga miestas lol
skuterixas91 3 years ago
nu ten tik sliundru yra
vytisdx 3 years ago 2
Dvimiescio ideja tai anekdotas.
Indrius 3 years ago
pamirso klaipeda bl
FromLith 3 years ago
kaimas ta klaipeda
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riciard55 3 years ago
Partisans traditions - kill immigrants and investitors.
Lietuvai 3 years ago
If Vilnius is poland what about Stettin? Breslau and all other lands Poland occupied after World war 2?
OR3NG 3 years ago
We don't occupy any land. But you are right: Stettin, Danzig, Breslau - they are all German cities. As much as Lwów, Grodno and Wilno are Polish.
Stalin changed our borders. Have you ever hard of Yalta Treaty?
freddi57 3 years ago
Have you ever heard that its not Wilno and its not polish?
OR3NG 3 years ago 13
@OR3NG
It's Wilno in polish, Vilnus in Lithuanian. And if you say, that IT WAS ALWAYS Lithuanian city, you are telling shit. I don't want Wilno back to Poland, but it mades me angry Lithuanian and Ukrainian propaganda, that Vilnus was always Lithuanian (it was multicultural) as well as Lwów Ukrainian. As I said I don't want Vilnus back, but Lwów yes. With what Ukrainians deserved on this polish city?
khulik 1 year ago
@khulikSee you try to hide behind word multi cultural to make it seem like it is part polish. It was founded by Lithuanians and it was always part of Lithuania until 1795. Before WW1 people in Lithuania didnt give a shit about language they spoke, as language wasnt used as a way of identifying nationality of a person Therefore they spoke polish and russian aswell. Good example of this is Adam Mickiewic , he wrote about lithuania "Litwo! Ojczyzno moja! ty jestes jak zdrowie”
OR3NG 1 year ago
@OR3NG
Multi-cultural? Ok, if this words doesn't match you to situation, I'l name them. XIV-XVII centuries-city mainly Ruthenian. XVII-XX cenury (shortly after II WW)-city with polish culture, mixed with Jewish. After Ponary massacre and sending Poles to new Pomeranian Voivodship, city partly Lithuanian, but still there are a lot of Poles there.
Ruthenians and Lithuanians? Lithuanians yes, build borders and cities, but they conquered huge nation, which was majorty. All were called Lithuanians.
khulik 1 year ago
@OR3NG
Do you know what he thought, saying "Lithuania, my homeland"? No. Because no one can know it, Mickiewicz took it to his grave.
Lithuanians says, that he thought about Lithuania as a seperate country, Poles says, that he wrote about Lithuania as a part of Rzeczpospolita.
khulik 1 year ago
@OR3NG Yes, Wilno was founded by Lithuanians but later it got totally polonised. There were no Lithuanians in Wilno before WW2
freddi57 1 year ago