Wow one comment says the doctrine was from a 100 years. Soooooo if mormons keep changing doctrine doesn't it tell you something? The "missionaries" are not the false prophets but the mormon Prophet muhammed, i mean smith is. Christ is the way and only the way and no sinful man will other then christ all mighty can.
So, I just got back from my LDS mission. That cartoon was entertaining, but totally DOES NOT represent what our church is. Those doctrines only exist in obscure commentary by church leaders from 100 years ag0. In our scriptures and congregations today we preach Jesus Christ and salvation through God's grace.
It just bums me out when you call missionaries false prophets, cuz for 24h/7d a week for two years, I was solely committed to helping people develop a relationship with Christ. That's all.
They smile because they know their bullshit they've been taught is true. They like to beat around the bush alot and won't answer your questions straight on, but change the subject of the topic. When you get further into the Mormon Church and Religion, then they will tell you their Outerspace mythology worship. They won't tell you their beliefs on the first visit, otherwise they'd scare away their victims with the "Holy Mother," "the Jesus went to America's and talked to the Indians supposedly."
I thumbs the video up for effort. Some Mormons who commented on this video are proof of why others attack your religion all the time. You think Jesus Christ is crying over it? UGH!
@BTmac And you worry because it glorifies Mormonism even in a negative sense? I am a Mormon and I think the cartoon is a work of art and it dose have much truth to it. So a what point is this cartoon bad? That's right it is bad because Mormons hate it. Well and to chirstians who hate Mormons do you think God hates Mormons? So God is hateful now? So Jesus never excused the thief next to him on the cross cause Christ was in the same predicament? BT you sound just like the chirstian below you.
@BTmac I disagree, I think its an irreverent and frank portrayal of the LDS dogma that is so honest in accurately portraying how the belief system appears to an unbiased outside observer that its embarrassing for the believer. The believer's own view of the dogma is clouded by the fervor of faith and as a result of that deep emotional investment they are unable to honestly and objectively asses what the church teaches and when confronted with it must respond with denial and anger.
@akosispence At what point in this videos are Mormons in this video. What proof is presented? Just a few guys in white shirts and no tags showing on camera. EPIC, but lacks evidence.
@Snipe4261 If you were actually a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" then you NEVER understood or paid any attention to what was being taught. The only correct things in the video are back up by the BIBLE , 99% of that video was made up ridiculous LIES... But I guess IF you stand for nothing you will fall for ANYTHING.
@TheCorinnaHarmon So and it hurts you how? I am Mormon and have no passion to be temple worthy so what if it is not damaging to anything you believe. This is one reason I take no responsibility of being temple worthy.
It is so sad that he was trying to trap two innocent missionaries, and then the video feed stops...just when the missionaries begin to tell all the things that ACTUALLY prove they are in fact Christian... Just very sad that this video shows bias and bigotry by some one who also claims to be CHRISTIAN...
@luisdez81 Religion came before the word Cult. Religion = a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. Darwin was concerned with the cause of nature and brings us to evolution. Wow look at me go. U MAD?
@MrMaDelirious Of course I'm not mad(should I be). You have left out the part where simply being an evolved primate means you're a cult. BTW I find it hypocritical that you comment on people's channels and yet you have not given anyone the opportunity to leave comments on your channel.
@luisdez81 The word "cult" means nothing to Darwinism or atheism it is something you do not believe in. Get it out of your vocabulary. Religion means nothing it is something you do not believe in. So why talk about it?
@MrMaDelirious On the contrary, religion means a lot to me considering I live in a country where the religious vote for politicians and laws that can affect me. Why talk about it? Because I choose to. You have not backed up your claim that the species Homosapien is a cult.
@luisdez81 Then move to mars cosmonaut or you can move to Antarctica and join a cult of penguins or move into a cult of baboons who have a law of life they live by everyday. I am a huge George Carlin fan and I agree with a lot of what he says. You can choose to let it effect you or you can choose to opt out and go on the same ride as the rest of man and woman kind, or you can just roll up in a fetal position and die. Let a Atheists run 4 president I am all for it. No 1 in America is happy.
@luisdez81 I could care less if a Half Latino half Chinese half German Midget, who was a circus star become Christian who became a Catholic who Became a Mormon who was excommunicated becoming a Muslim who became an Atheist porn star slash gay man who enjoys meat who became a vegetarian who had sex with a woman and she had his baby and was friends with Bin Ladin's love child who was friends with George Bush Senior. This country is ran by Wal Mart and McDonalds 1 big strip mall of corporations.
@MrMaDelirious Your reply's have become more and more nonsensical. I could care less if you're a Carlin fan. A cult of penguins? Do you even read your own posts? I think i'll stay in the country i was born in and try to at least help in some small way to make it a little better. BTW When LDS church gave the state of California prop. 8 would you go to san Fran and tell the homosexual community to just opt out and move to another planet? Your arguments are childish as your level of comprehension.
@luisdez81 You said that religious people run the country and I said I did not care if a Half Latino half Chinese half German Midget, who was a circus star become Christian who became a Catholic who Became a Mormon who was excommunicated becoming a Muslim who became an Atheist porn star slash gay man who enjoys meat who became a vegetarian who had sex with a woman and she had his baby and was friends with Bin Ladin's love child who was friends with George Bush Senior who became president. Moron
@MrMaDelirious Oh I see, because you don't care means neither do the majority of other voters. Gotcha. BTW when was the last time you even heard of a politician running as an open atheist? Past or present.
BTW, you're still dodging your claim. Tell me how all of humanity as a species is a cult. Put up or shut up.
@MrMaDelirious Oh and another thing, how can a species be a cult? You're still avoiding the fact that you haven't backed up your initial claim. Everything you've posted thus far is nothing but inane drivel. Back up your claim or GTFO
@luisdez81 If you do not get it shut the "hell" up well you do not believe in hell. Shut the reality up? Um shut the Darwin up? You have got to be the dumbest Atheist I have had the privilege to have a text conversation with. I have met monkeys that are smarter then you. Animals do things religiously everyday kinda like I exercise religiously everyday. Get educated, go to college and spend more time in the library and get off of YouTube, LMMFAOROTFLMAOLOLYDMF!
@MrMaDelirious You are such a hypocrite. You comment and insult people on their channel and yet block them from replying. You have disabled comments on your own channel. You call me stupid, idiot, moron and some other stuff and then run and block. You're pathetic. You got in way over your head when you replied to my post. Hope you've learned your lesson.
Gee why can't I comment on your channel, huh? I'm not like you. I believe in free speech and I don't do the cowardly thing like block users. Your hypocrisy is amusing. Your immaturity is left up on my channel for all to see. All you have are insults and Ad hominem. I know why you don't let people comment on your channel, you're afraid they're gonna do exactly what you're doing. I pity you.
@luisdez81 Cause I do not like trash on my main wall. You can view and comment on my videos but we are both trashing this guys video with garbage comments. I had my laugh for the day. Get out of your moms basement and get a real life. You have been on YouTube for well over 2 hours. Do I bother you that much? Well I hope you lose sleep over my worthless existence cause I am not much to worry over. Moron.
I've seen that video myself and as an ex-Mormon I consider it an accurate portrayl of LDS dogma as I understood it before I left the church. The parts about "cosmic sex" however were more implied than explicit.
@Snipe4261 The comments about "cosmic sex" had to be implied or every female interested in joining would flee for her life! I have had two babies and I most certainly do not want to spend my eternity being screwed whenever my husband feels like picking me over all the other wives just so that I can stay constantly pregnant. No thank you, Mr. Missionary, please step away from my door. Haha
I love attempting to post a comment on the Mormon message videos. You get a message saying "comment pending" and it never posts. I'm a cordial dude with questions, though I get shot down.
Se dicen muchas cosas erradas sobre la religion mormon. Para ser mas especificos los misioneros que estan frente a ti son de la iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos de los Ultimos Dias por que tambien los hay los de la iglesia fundamentalista de los Santos de los ultimos Dias. Como sea Dios no tuvo relaciones sexuales con Maria eso lo invento un antimormon para desprestigiar a la iglesia.
If you don't agree with their teachings, then I respect that, but to use a Bible verse meant for the devil and refer to them as ferocious wolves is a big strike in your corner for your attempt to demonize people that God loves as much as he loves you. Not smart at all.
buhdi...buhdi....buhdi....that's all folks! Christianity is factual?!?! Prove it!!! And yes I'm Mormon. Watch this video of yourself and tell me in all honesty you come out looking like a super star. If you believe you do Porky, you're just as ignorant as the cartoon.
@dorisfenella I would say the main issue is that there are people who actually believe in a supernatural, invisible being, who lives everywhere and has magical powers. He is perfect, knows everything, and is all powerful even though he makes mistakes, is a hypocrite, obviously doesn't know everything, and is seemingly powerless (unless something good happens then he gets the credit). He is also above human emotion and comprehension even though he expresses extreme human emotion...
@Plagueis1017 No that video is full of lies. God is not like you see in that video. That video was made for an excomunicated member who state in hatred.
@dorisfenella Wow are you stupid or something. Let me repeat myself and Ill do it in capitals so you can read it. I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE GOD IN THAT VIDEO. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE GOD IN THE BIBLE. Actually to say there is only one God is clearly a stupid statement. There's the God of the Quran, the God of the Torah, the God of the Bible and that's just popular monotheistic Gods. I won't even start to get into the God's of polytheistic religions.
@Plagueis1017 He didn't actually make Abraham go through with it, and Abraham still did get the promise that his descendants would be as numerous as the sands of the sea. Most of the people in the world are direct descendants of Abraham.
And let's not forget that God did actually have to sacrifice his own son for us, which the whole thing with Abraham was symbolic of, so that we may all be saved. It doesn't seem like you might believe that event took place at the moment, but I know it did. :)
@L36EnDaRy You don't know it did, you're just one of those tragically delusional people who has brainwashed themselves into ignoring fact and substituting it with faith. God wanted to see if Abraham had enough faith in God to murder his own son for him. It was for no other reason than to prove his loyalty and faith. God's vanity is astounding. Speaking of Jesus (whose real named couldn't be Jesus), who did God sacrifice Jesus to? Why did God need to make a sacrifice to forgive us?
@Plagueis1017 (continuing) 1 day on Kolob is equal to 1,000 years on Earth. Even then, when Genesis says 7 days, it doesn't necessarily mean 7,000 years either, because the word "day" used there is referred to as a period of time. As for 7 Earth days, I remember my elders quorum president joking around saying, "Maybe...but not likely."
Also, I just got done seeing a South Park episode on the theory of evolution. I just thought it was a funny coincidence, LOL.
@L36EnDaRy Why couldn't he just be an all powerful loving merciful God, and just forgive us? Or is none of this and the story is just used as, much like you just tried to use it against me, a guilt trip? A way to make people feel guilty so they'll fall to their knees and beg for forgiveness... then fill the church collection plate with their hard earned money.
@Plagueis1017 A couple of things...the LDS church is not a guilt trip type of deal when it comes to repentance, and tithing is not for the church, but for your own benefit. In fact, I don't have a job, so I'm not required to pay it, and if you pay more than 10%, then you're over-doing it. As for knowing that the atonement took place, I'll talk about it sometime. I'm a former thug and a recent convert to the church, and I'll tell you all my story sometime. It won't fit in 500 characters...
@L36EnDaRy Of course you don't think its a guilt trip type of deal you're a Mormon. Your opinion on Mormonism is very dismissible as you will be biased, and there is a conflict of interest. I don't want to read your story, but I'm assuming its something about how you're religion got you off the streets and blah blah. If only you could understand your own mind, you would realize it was not God who saved you. It was you who saved you. God is nothing more than your own alter ego.
@Plagueis1017 I grew up Catholic. LOL, one of my friends always joked around that guilt was a Catholic concept, haha. And it was me that got me off the streets of the Philippines, your correct. I'm in San Diego now, and that's where I picked up a Book of Mormon. And there's a difference between someone born into the church and is ignorant, and a convert who's seen everything else.
And the whole mind-trick theory isn't sufficient to explain things such as healing someone's leg back together. :P
@L36EnDaRy The only difference is you picked the ignorance that made the most sense to you. Although if a convert is not ignorant, then would an apostate also be not ignorant? What about an apostate who has studied religions?
Actually the mind-trick theory might explain a persons leg being healed depending on what you mean by being healed back together. If you can certainly present an undeniable miracle that proves God's existence I would definitely be very interested in seeing it.
@Plagueis1017 Not the best example: the theory of evolution and the creation don't really contradict each other. Creatures have different genetic traits, but you can't mate a dog and a cat to produce a new species.
Of course I can tell you about miracles that I have seen concerning the gifts of tongues and of healing, but those are other people's miracles. That's why covenant-borns are exhorted to "man up, and gain your own testimony," rather than piggy-backing off the testimonies of others.
@L36EnDaRy Never once has an evolutionary biologist claimed that you could mate 2 different species to create a new species that is not at all what the theory of evolution says. Members of the same species do have genetic differences, and they will pass these genes onto their offspring. Micro-Evolution is the mutation of genes in a species to give its members a slight advantage in the struggle for survival (this is also known as adaptation)....continued...
@Plagueis1017 Still doesn't deny the doctrine of the creation.
And faith is the belief and hope for things without a perfect knowledge, yeah. It doesn't mean to dismiss everything else that doesn't fit. James says that if you lack wisdom, then ask of God, and it shall be given you. Moroni states that if you are willing to read the Book of Mormon and ask if it's true, and things like that, you can build faith to the point of instantaneously healing injuries and sicknesses. (James 5:14-15)
@L36EnDaRy It kind of does since the time frame given to us by the Bible is not nearly long enough for even 1 instance of Macro-Evolution. Not to mention that the Bible doesn't notate the process of gene mutation. It also says that man was created exactly as he is now. Which the Theory of Evolution says is not how it happened.
I have never heard or read a single documented instance of a person being healed of some illness or injury by faith.
@Plagueis1017 It's kind of funny, because it's hard to keep track of multiple comments on this page. Sometimes I get an alert of 1 new comment, and then find out the next time around that you posted up 2, and then have to read them later. It makes it more difficult that when I view this page, the comments are in order.
God does work through natural law. IDK the time frame in the Bible about the time frame, aside from 7 days not likely to be taken literally. The Pearl of Great Price states that
@Plagueis1017 (continuing once more) Concerning documented instances of healing by faith, there are a few through LDS Church History (Alma Smith, Lorenzo Snow, etc.), and outside of the LDS church as well. They still occur frequently among LDS members through the process described in James 5:14-15, by asking the elders of the church for a blessing.
The talk Healing the Sick, by Elder Dallin H. Oaks, should provide more information. Youtube doesn't seem to be letting me post links though.
@L36EnDaRy these mutated genes are passed onto the next generation, then passed on again, and again, and again. Over a period of millions of years, as more adaptations are added and the members of the species who didn't adapt die off, you eventually have an entirely new species. This is known as Macro-Evolution.
You're definitely going to have to do better than tell me to have my own "testimony"
@L36EnDaRy Oh and what you grew up as does not really matter, what you are now matters... So I think I would be safe in assuming you didn't understand my comment.
@Plagueis1017 So, what defines a "Mormon" to the point that he would be biased? Like I said, there are people who are born into the church, and they don't believe. A lot of them don't even believe in it until they've had a certain experience, or gone on a mission. Some people leave the church after things happen...stop "being Mormon." Just because they are members of the church doesn't mean they're biased.
Sooner or later, we all find out that there is a God. Better sooner rather than later.
@L36EnDaRy Faith defines a Mormon to the point of being biased. Belief without evidence. If you can believe without proof you can dismiss everything else that does not fit in with your world view. Evolution for example. Evolution is sadly still a topic of debate in spite of it being a scientific fact that is supported by mountains of evidence. You believe what cannot be verified and deny what has been verified.
@Plagueis1017 (last continuation) Hey man, it's been interesting chatting with you. I'm always happy to learn more. Members of the LDS church are encouraged by President Dieter F. Uchtdorf to know that education for us is not just a great idea, but a commandment as well. We are supposed to learn of the things of God, as well as the things of the world.
I'm happy to hear and learn more from you. Talking and thinking about all this has been fun.
@Plagueis1017 (continuing once again) About why God needed Christ to be sacrificed for us: since God works through natural laws, and keeping in mind that while he's omniscient while we are still trying to progress in science, he has more knowledge about natural laws, and it will be a while before we get to that point. God had to send Jesus Christ to us because he is an immortal being, which means he isn't capable of death, so he could not suffer the atonement for us, and die for our sins.
@Plagueis1017 (continuing) I heard from a friend who's a physics major that the odds of the universe coming together in the way it did without a guiding force are pretty slim. I don't remember the statistics he gave me though, LOL. I'll save that for college. :P
@dorisfenella The existence of each of these is supported by the same basis of evidence as the God in the Bible, which is anonymous, primitive, unverifiable (often provably forged or tampered with) documents.
@iTr0ll Yeah, Mormons are nice--until they start interfering in other people's lives. How many millions of dollars came pouring into California from out of state, so that Prop 8 would pass and take away the right of same-sex couples to marry? I mean, of all people to lecture others about marriage! (Joseph Smith: as many as 48 wives; Brigham Young: 55 wives.)
@iTr0ll You can't say until you've read the Book of Mormon, and pondered and prayed sincerely about it for yourself, without peer pressure from anyone.
And I exhort you to remember these things; for the time speedily cometh that ye shall know that I lie not, for ye shall see me at the bar of God; and the Lord God will say unto you: Did I not declare my words unto you, which were written by this man, like as one crying from the dead, yea, even as one speaking out of the dust? -Moroni 10:27
u ass hole fuckhead. in Job of ur christian bible states that all the Sons of God came to present them selves unto the lord. and satan came among them. read the first 2 chapters of job. and u just got own in Christianity. and then Jesus in ur christian bible Jesus says "Ye are God" in John, research more yo, for real.
SO...why the setup? Why not just approach the missionaries if you want to debate, and ask them? Why video tape someone without permission? You are arguing from a Christian perspective, but your whole approach is deceptive. The truth is, your just Chicken-shit!
By the way - I'm a Mormon critic, so this isn't a defense of Mormonism.
I love the way one of the missionaries keeps looking around to see if someone is watching him. He is like, I hope there are no other Mormons watching me, because I will be in trouble.
Great! Why shouldn't religion be challenged? Why not? It has the power to terminate life. Religion is losing out..slowly. We can replace religion with friendship, empathy, sympathy, striving for no harm etc...WE CAN do it. We MUST DO BETTER.
@pangeanet please..I've read the old testament. I prefer to take internal dictation when it comes to right and wrong. What's the "message" of scripture? Weird, violent stories? Keep your religion to YOURSELF. JUST SAY NO TO BRONZE AGE MYTHS.
@23skeedoo clearly you don't believe the Holy Bible to be the word of God. You can find example of bad people and violence, corruption, greed, mans inhumanity to man, so on and so forth all all throughout history you don't have to just read about it in the Bible. I really don't understand what you are saying unless it is you want to censor my beliefs and my speech and allow yours only.
@pangeanet of course I don't believe in the holy bible. Weird, stupid stories. Like the story of Lot. Oh yeah, that really happened. after fleeing the city, he had drunken sex with his daughters. If these stories are true and should be a source of moral inspiration, what does that say about the people that follow the bible? I HOPE they just ignore all the BAD stuff. Keep watching over the years as religion slowly loses out. Statistics are showing it now. Pew studies confirm it.
@BaurakAle7 AHAHAHAHA lol. because the truth is too Plain and precious for you isn't it.
Isn't it?
How are Africans going to get the chance to have the priesthood, AFTER the rest of the seed of Adam gets it, when in 1867, there were hardly any stakes of zion outside of deseret territory?
You have to have stakes and organization. God just doesn't say "here you go run a muck". He organizes. BY 1980 the entire world had pretty much been footpathed by missionaries, and the church foundation laid
@Baurak Yea, Glad to. You see Grnmessiah, the wording of prophecies are instrumental in understanding the lords intent. notice the wording in this one,.."Can the present struggle free the slave? NO! HAM MUST BE THE SERVANT OF SERVANTS UNTIL THE CURSE IS REMOVED."
1. What was the curse? The loss of Priesthood.
2. Who may obtain the priesthood? Only the free.
3. When did the African people gain their freedom? 1869? no 1969?no
Only after civil rights and Global recognition was granted 1950-1980
So you're looking for an answer to this part of his sermon then?
""Can the present struggle free the slave? NO! HAM MUST BE THE SERVANT OF SERVANTS UNTIL THE CURSE IS REMOVED. Can you destroy the decrees of the Almighty? YOU CANNOT. Yet our Christian brethren think that they are going to overthrow the sentence of the Almighty upon the seed of Ham. THEY CANNOT DO THAT, though they may kill them by thousands and tens of thousands.” U think this is false?
@BaurakAle7 I was just wondering if you were going to apply that to Paul. I never said Brigham was an Abolitionist. I said he was accused of it. Its kinda Hard to be both a racist and an Abolitionist. If you were alive in the 1800's you would be calling him an abolitionist. But today you call him aracist because you flow with the Hate.
"If Brigham Young says that there is no point in fighting slavery, because it was divinely mandated, and God promised to sustain it, but he said that people who abused their slaves were going to face judgment for abusing their slaves, does that make him an abolitionist?"
@BaurakAle7 They must not answer them back or steal from them. Instead, they must show that they are always good and faithful, so as to bring credit to the teaching about God our Savior in all they do.” 2: 9-10.
So tell me, Sven, are you going to now openly Bash the Apostle Paul? as well as Brigham, Joseph any of the other old Mormon leaders?
@BaurakAle7 But far from condemning the practice amongst fellow Christians and in the wider world, Paul does the opposite by arguing that slave masters, be they Christians or non-Christians, must be given respect by their slaves. It is striking just how emphatic Paul is about this, particularly in his use of words such as “must” and “all”.
Paul’s letter to Titus tells slaves in no uncertain terms that : “Slaves are to submit to their masters and please them in all things.
@BaurakAle7 Yea? What of the attitude of Paul ? He wrote : “Those who are slaves must consider their masters worthy of all respect, so that no one will speak evil of the name of God and of our teaching. Slaves belonging to Christian masters must not despise them, for they are their brothers.” (1 Timothy 6:1-2).
Paul’s reference to “Christian masters” immediately reveals that early Christians owned slaves. Cont.
@haidermann1 exactly "Give unto God that which is God's and unto Caeser that which is Caesers" neither you can not judge a time two centuries ago by todays standards. Just like the word Nigger was at that time considered acceptable and everyone used it even Abraham Lincoln.
@AnFhirinne You're correct. Nigger had two definitions. First was to describe black. Negroe was black inlatin from the spanish and moore slave traders. It also denoted uneducated which is what slaves were because they didn't have the same rights as the free.
People just want to spread hate and bitterness to us. it is the final times. Be thou prepared.
@BaurakAle7 "Perhaps you ought to read that sermon from October 6, 1863 "
Oh you mean the one that states "For their abuse of [the Black African] race, the whites will be cursed, unless they repent. " Yea nice sermon.
he saints were accused of being abolitionists and a threat to the status of the state of Missouri, then a slave state. D. Charles Pyle, Encyclopedia of Mormonism
In Utah the Ute wars were about interrupting slave trade with Mexican Miners. Joseph said to set Blacks free.
@wellesradio People fighting over religion sucks.
It does Suck. Contention is totally of the Devil. And I accept & Own my part in it here on the "tube", and would rather have decent mature conversations of respect with people, but that's not possible with those who do not relish peace.
The war in Heaven was called such for a reason. Lucifer Got the boot because there could be no peace with him there. Lately I tend to lean to St. Jude 1-3, and feel obligated to Contend for the Faith.
@haidermann1 I love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and all others as we teach so it makes me ill to see those who would propogate incorrect information about our beliefs I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, nor do I want Him to be ashamed of me so I must always at least give those who actually want to know our beliefs the truth. We never put down others or teach to put down others. Our faith is simple, our faith is about the unconditional love Christ taught. Thanks again God bless you.
@AnFhirinne I couldn't agree more. I walk shoulders back and up right before God about my religious convictions. I love all, but am weak, and to those Anti Christs I call them as the Savior called the sagesees and Pharisees, a generation of Vipers.
Youtube unfortunately does not foster a spiritual God filled environment. It is the anterior of the Spirit world. It is the digitized plain between paradise and prison. It is a continuance to the War in Heaven. I keep the side I chose there today.
@haidermann1 so true and many who would be bold here are paper tigers in real life. People tell much about themselves by what they do when they think no one else is watching. I try to always be myself where ever I am. I believe this a great outlet of sharing the gospel of unconditional love of Christ. I feel the internet, especially finding pure information on youtube is like sifting through tons of coal for that one diamond. Reminds me of the story of the pearl of great price,
I'm a crappy Member. I know that. I don't deserve the title "Mormon" let alone "LatterDay Saint."
But I know truth when I see it. I know the spirit when I feel it. I know Lies when I hear them. I have been blessed with discernment. The Church of Jesus Christ of LatterDay saints is True. It is Christs literal Kingdom on Earth. It is a preparatory institution for his rule as King. There'll be other religions, even into the Millenium, but every one will bow and confess he is the Savior eventualy
@AnFhirinne the ignorant one is you unfortunately. Just look around you there are few "colored" people in your church because that was the way it was designed. Don't lie and tell me its not true. Your a racist and you know it and your religion is too. You will pay for it and your choice to not acknowledge how racist its origins are is also something you will pay for.
@haidermann1 on the contrary you are the one knee deep in it...if not please explain why your church believes the mark of cain is being a colored person and that is how sin it identified. Or tell me why the "colored" were not allowed the priesthood or even to be part of your church until the pressure from the government in the late 70's your name calling exhibits one major thing that is guilt.. tell me haidermann how many black people are part of your ward and be honest with yourself?
@michelleandjamo You are a Bigot. And your text is saturated in Hate and Bigotry. Why should I justify Gods work to a wretch? Why should I attempt to teach a hatemonger about spirituality? Or understanding the worst curse is Loss of priesthood, which many people besides black people have had to endure on this earth. Why should I have to trudge up facts such as There were blacks in our church from the day of its legitimization 1830, when other whites wanted nothing to do with them? LDS is true
@michelleandjamonti I can only speak of myself of what I have heard, coming from many generations back and we have always taught to love every single one Heavenly Father's children equally. You act as if you can judge me without knowing me this is bigoted by definition so you have no moral high ground from which to preach. We will all one day stand before Jesus Christ as our judge. I try to live as Jesus taught to love all unconditionally. What do you believe in?
well then your generations chose to not tell you about your great revelation of 1978 or did you choose to forget it you know that you did not allow blacks the priesthood until after the huge actions of peple like martin luther king forced equally and the govt made your religion open its doors.bottom line in my lifetime your religion has been the most racist of all that I have studied and as I asked you again look around your lunatic ward and tell me how many black people are there with you?
@michelleandjamonti apparently your studies have been lacking or based upon sources such as this. Joseph Smith himself was against slavery and for equality of all people. No one ever forced us to allow anyone into our churches ever, members of all races including blacks immigrated west and were pioneers. In Missouri the locals feared the Mormons because they knew it would hurt the number of votes they would get to become a slave state. We have always taught we may all return to live with God.
@michelle How can you be both racist and be accused of Being an abolitionist? This is what happened with the 19th century LDS. GOD blessed Hamitic linage with the priesthood. not "Us", and when did blacks gain their freedom? 1867?1967? no it wasn't until 1978 Blacks GLOBALLY gained their freedom. The priesthood is about being FREE to serve. Those FORCED to serve, are cursed without the priesthood.
When did whites get the restored Priesthood? Not until America instituted FREEDOM of religion.
Disgusting... this is not a banned mormon cartoon lol... if you any of you believe that... your just as ignorant as the person who posted it.. this is from the "god makers movie" made by excommunicated mormons, they use anti-mormon material to persecute the church to satisfy their own anger toward the church. they use their ex-membership and partial truths to pervert the truth of what we believe. if the poster is a Christian he/she should learn that persecution is not of God.. Matthew 15:11
@AnFhirinne yes clearly he is not doing this in the spirit of love and brotherly kindness but sadly many who claim to be Christian even in my own faith are so in word only not in deed. I believe it is important to actually live by Christ's teachings and I am not perfect but I certainly aspire to be a better person and follow the gospel of Jesus Christ.
The fact that you are clearly "getting off" on secretly videotaping someone with the intention to demean and degrade them is itself completely against what Jesus Christ Himself taught. Could you picture Jesus Christ as such a voyeur? This is disgusting on every level of Christianity or what Jesus Christ taught about loving your neighbor.
@AnFhirinne This isn't to demean them, after watching this video I legitimately wanted to see how Mormons would react to this, and I wanted to see if this was true, this is fantastic for me.
@AmericanSpur well I hope you know that basically I'd say 95% of this is incorrect it was intentionally made as a propoganda film by an ex-member name Ed Decker who was a ward clerk who claimed to be "high up" in the church but was excommunicated for adultery and rather than go through the repentence process(which is actually to help us) and come back into full activity he chose to continue living in sin and attack the church aka justify his sins instead of moving on. lds dot org for beliefs.
im gonna give ya a break..go read your bible and see if you still have the same thoughts! ill check back..if you dont recant your stupid statement ...i will quote over 100 verses that contradict what u stated! and dont give me the ol "OUT OF CONTEXT" crap...i know of no church where the entire bible is read!
@AnFhirinne No, your wrong about that. Jesus condemned men, cursing them and bringing Gods wrath upon them. He called men dead bones, and broods of vipers! (Matthew 23:33.) Jesus condemned religion, and the law, and authority. He came to abolish religion. Ask yourself this, why was jesus killed. He was killed as a blasphemer because of the claims that he made as the Son of God and the things he would say. Read the bible yourself, don't be decieved
All this cartoon does is show the ignorance of those who made it of the intelligence of real truth seekers and understimated them when this was made to deliberately decieve the world to believe this is actually what Mormons believe. Anyone who knows what Mormons believe would laugh at this for it's feeble attempt to portray such a ridiculous belief system. The same way most feel who are not members when watching this is exactly how members feel knowing how full of crap this video is.
Brilliant video, the look on their face is priceless.
nbegrateful 6 days ago
Wow one comment says the doctrine was from a 100 years. Soooooo if mormons keep changing doctrine doesn't it tell you something? The "missionaries" are not the false prophets but the mormon Prophet muhammed, i mean smith is. Christ is the way and only the way and no sinful man will other then christ all mighty can.
angelsburningbright 1 month ago
So, I just got back from my LDS mission. That cartoon was entertaining, but totally DOES NOT represent what our church is. Those doctrines only exist in obscure commentary by church leaders from 100 years ag0. In our scriptures and congregations today we preach Jesus Christ and salvation through God's grace.
It just bums me out when you call missionaries false prophets, cuz for 24h/7d a week for two years, I was solely committed to helping people develop a relationship with Christ. That's all.
connnorcarpenter 1 month ago
I might be wrong, but aren't missionaries not allowed to watch things from non-LDS sources?
IamASheep 2 months ago in playlist Banned Mormon Cartoon Shown to Missionaries by Surprise
great video dude
JupiterPhareal 2 months ago in playlist Banned Mormon Cartoon Shown to Missionaries by Surprise
watch the real facts here /watch?v=CyQWRgp9QAg
generalconfusion1 2 months ago
/watch?v=7AHfL5sjXHI&feature=related for the cartoon. You're welcome.
SuperCommentwhore2 2 months ago
Hahaha. That cartoon is so ridiculous. A couple truths sprinkled in with a whole bunch of lies.
st10ar5 2 months ago
They smile because they know their bullshit they've been taught is true. They like to beat around the bush alot and won't answer your questions straight on, but change the subject of the topic. When you get further into the Mormon Church and Religion, then they will tell you their Outerspace mythology worship. They won't tell you their beliefs on the first visit, otherwise they'd scare away their victims with the "Holy Mother," "the Jesus went to America's and talked to the Indians supposedly."
MoonSapphireDemon 3 months ago
I thumbs the video up for effort. Some Mormons who commented on this video are proof of why others attack your religion all the time. You think Jesus Christ is crying over it? UGH!
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
The God Makers is ridiculous and full of lies, end of story. It's an absolute joke that does not accurately portray Mormon beliefs
BTmac 5 months ago
@BTmac And you worry because it glorifies Mormonism even in a negative sense? I am a Mormon and I think the cartoon is a work of art and it dose have much truth to it. So a what point is this cartoon bad? That's right it is bad because Mormons hate it. Well and to chirstians who hate Mormons do you think God hates Mormons? So God is hateful now? So Jesus never excused the thief next to him on the cross cause Christ was in the same predicament? BT you sound just like the chirstian below you.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@BTmac I disagree, I think its an irreverent and frank portrayal of the LDS dogma that is so honest in accurately portraying how the belief system appears to an unbiased outside observer that its embarrassing for the believer. The believer's own view of the dogma is clouded by the fervor of faith and as a result of that deep emotional investment they are unable to honestly and objectively asses what the church teaches and when confronted with it must respond with denial and anger.
Snipe4261 3 months ago 2
that's so cool that you showed them that video. God bless you. I am a christian , mormon's are not!
MrsBMontes 5 months ago
I wanted to hear what the elders had to say...
akosispence 6 months ago
@akosispence At what point in this videos are Mormons in this video. What proof is presented? Just a few guys in white shirts and no tags showing on camera. EPIC, but lacks evidence.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@Snipe4261 If you were actually a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" then you NEVER understood or paid any attention to what was being taught. The only correct things in the video are back up by the BIBLE , 99% of that video was made up ridiculous LIES... But I guess IF you stand for nothing you will fall for ANYTHING.
TheCorinnaHarmon 6 months ago
@TheCorinnaHarmon " But I guess IF you stand for nothing you will fall for ANYTHING."
How do you know he stands for nothing?
You're making claims of someone's life based on a few words. Can you back up that claim?
luisdez81 6 months ago
@TheCorinnaHarmon So and it hurts you how? I am Mormon and have no passion to be temple worthy so what if it is not damaging to anything you believe. This is one reason I take no responsibility of being temple worthy.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
It is so sad that he was trying to trap two innocent missionaries, and then the video feed stops...just when the missionaries begin to tell all the things that ACTUALLY prove they are in fact Christian... Just very sad that this video shows bias and bigotry by some one who also claims to be CHRISTIAN...
TheCorinnaHarmon 6 months ago
@TheCorinnaHarmon All of Christianity is just a cult of Judaism.
luisdez81 6 months ago
@luisdez81 Humanity is a cult of evolved primates.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious Methinks you don't know what the word cult means. Look it up.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@luisdez81 Darwin
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
Me think monkeys believed in bananas. I mean it had to eat them religiously. And now the return comment.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@luisdez81 Religion came before the word Cult. Religion = a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. Darwin was concerned with the cause of nature and brings us to evolution. Wow look at me go. U MAD?
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious Of course I'm not mad(should I be). You have left out the part where simply being an evolved primate means you're a cult. BTW I find it hypocritical that you comment on people's channels and yet you have not given anyone the opportunity to leave comments on your channel.
You scared?
luisdez81 4 months ago
@luisdez81 The word "cult" means nothing to Darwinism or atheism it is something you do not believe in. Get it out of your vocabulary. Religion means nothing it is something you do not believe in. So why talk about it?
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious On the contrary, religion means a lot to me considering I live in a country where the religious vote for politicians and laws that can affect me. Why talk about it? Because I choose to. You have not backed up your claim that the species Homosapien is a cult.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@luisdez81 Then move to mars cosmonaut or you can move to Antarctica and join a cult of penguins or move into a cult of baboons who have a law of life they live by everyday. I am a huge George Carlin fan and I agree with a lot of what he says. You can choose to let it effect you or you can choose to opt out and go on the same ride as the rest of man and woman kind, or you can just roll up in a fetal position and die. Let a Atheists run 4 president I am all for it. No 1 in America is happy.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@luisdez81 I could care less if a Half Latino half Chinese half German Midget, who was a circus star become Christian who became a Catholic who Became a Mormon who was excommunicated becoming a Muslim who became an Atheist porn star slash gay man who enjoys meat who became a vegetarian who had sex with a woman and she had his baby and was friends with Bin Ladin's love child who was friends with George Bush Senior. This country is ran by Wal Mart and McDonalds 1 big strip mall of corporations.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious Your reply's have become more and more nonsensical. I could care less if you're a Carlin fan. A cult of penguins? Do you even read your own posts? I think i'll stay in the country i was born in and try to at least help in some small way to make it a little better. BTW When LDS church gave the state of California prop. 8 would you go to san Fran and tell the homosexual community to just opt out and move to another planet? Your arguments are childish as your level of comprehension.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@luisdez81 You said that religious people run the country and I said I did not care if a Half Latino half Chinese half German Midget, who was a circus star become Christian who became a Catholic who Became a Mormon who was excommunicated becoming a Muslim who became an Atheist porn star slash gay man who enjoys meat who became a vegetarian who had sex with a woman and she had his baby and was friends with Bin Ladin's love child who was friends with George Bush Senior who became president. Moron
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious Oh I see, because you don't care means neither do the majority of other voters. Gotcha. BTW when was the last time you even heard of a politician running as an open atheist? Past or present.
BTW, you're still dodging your claim. Tell me how all of humanity as a species is a cult. Put up or shut up.
Moron.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious Oh and another thing, how can a species be a cult? You're still avoiding the fact that you haven't backed up your initial claim. Everything you've posted thus far is nothing but inane drivel. Back up your claim or GTFO
luisdez81 4 months ago
@luisdez81 If you do not get it shut the "hell" up well you do not believe in hell. Shut the reality up? Um shut the Darwin up? You have got to be the dumbest Atheist I have had the privilege to have a text conversation with. I have met monkeys that are smarter then you. Animals do things religiously everyday kinda like I exercise religiously everyday. Get educated, go to college and spend more time in the library and get off of YouTube, LMMFAOROTFLMAOLOLYDMF!
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious " Animals do things religiously everyday "
The word your looking for is instinctively. You do not get to change the meaning of a word for convenience.
Maybe you should exercise your mind "religiously", then maybe you'd be able to see the fallacies of your weak arguments.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious You are such a hypocrite. You comment and insult people on their channel and yet block them from replying. You have disabled comments on your own channel. You call me stupid, idiot, moron and some other stuff and then run and block. You're pathetic. You got in way over your head when you replied to my post. Hope you've learned your lesson.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious LOL
Gee why can't I comment on your channel, huh? I'm not like you. I believe in free speech and I don't do the cowardly thing like block users. Your hypocrisy is amusing. Your immaturity is left up on my channel for all to see. All you have are insults and Ad hominem. I know why you don't let people comment on your channel, you're afraid they're gonna do exactly what you're doing. I pity you.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@luisdez81 Cause I do not like trash on my main wall. You can view and comment on my videos but we are both trashing this guys video with garbage comments. I had my laugh for the day. Get out of your moms basement and get a real life. You have been on YouTube for well over 2 hours. Do I bother you that much? Well I hope you lose sleep over my worthless existence cause I am not much to worry over. Moron.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious Meanwhile you trash others ' main wall? I see. You're very amusing. Hypocritical, but amusing nonetheless.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@MrMaDelirious No thanx, I'd prefer watching cats fall off stuff than watch some fat guy burping.
luisdez81 4 months ago
@luisdez81 LOL, look at you go.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
Yup that is the only pu**y you will ever see since you were born, LOL. Lighten up bro it is the internet, LOL.
MrMaDelirious 4 months ago
I've seen that video myself and as an ex-Mormon I consider it an accurate portrayl of LDS dogma as I understood it before I left the church. The parts about "cosmic sex" however were more implied than explicit.
Snipe4261 6 months ago
@Snipe4261 The comments about "cosmic sex" had to be implied or every female interested in joining would flee for her life! I have had two babies and I most certainly do not want to spend my eternity being screwed whenever my husband feels like picking me over all the other wives just so that I can stay constantly pregnant. No thank you, Mr. Missionary, please step away from my door. Haha
RazeAndJadith 3 months ago
@RazeAndJadith Lol that's funny. I'm not Mormon so I find that hilarious and agree with you. =)
MoonSapphireDemon 3 months ago
im mormon :))
thebearknownasclaire 6 months ago
I love the Southpark one. :D
Kamatifan1 6 months ago
I love attempting to post a comment on the Mormon message videos. You get a message saying "comment pending" and it never posts. I'm a cordial dude with questions, though I get shot down.
moondog2323 6 months ago
@therogman2005 I won't put myself on either side of the discussion, but if you look this is pt. 1 and there is a pt.2 and pt.3
CommieThreat 7 months ago
Se dicen muchas cosas erradas sobre la religion mormon. Para ser mas especificos los misioneros que estan frente a ti son de la iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos de los Ultimos Dias por que tambien los hay los de la iglesia fundamentalista de los Santos de los ultimos Dias. Como sea Dios no tuvo relaciones sexuales con Maria eso lo invento un antimormon para desprestigiar a la iglesia.
dorisfenella 7 months ago
Yes a LOT OF THAT IS NOT TRUE!
dorisfenella 7 months ago
check out...Why Mormons Leave, by Sandra Tanner on youtube
A1Goku 8 months ago
Mary never had sex with God. She was raped by God.
bachhell 8 months ago
@bachhell There was no sexuality involved at all. It was a virgin birth, and Latter-day Saints believe that.
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
If you don't agree with their teachings, then I respect that, but to use a Bible verse meant for the devil and refer to them as ferocious wolves is a big strike in your corner for your attempt to demonize people that God loves as much as he loves you. Not smart at all.
pepjrp 9 months ago
@therogman2005 notice the length is 10:00. that's what time constraint's youtube has on most channels
WeTotallyRuhl 9 months ago
buhdi...buhdi....buhdi....that's all folks! Christianity is factual?!?! Prove it!!! And yes I'm Mormon. Watch this video of yourself and tell me in all honesty you come out looking like a super star. If you believe you do Porky, you're just as ignorant as the cartoon.
1spideyfan 9 months ago
So mary had sex with god but she's still a virgin?? Im confused here
Plagueis1017 9 months ago
@Plagueis1017 I am an lds and I don´t believe that. It is very far from being a main issue.
dorisfenella 7 months ago
@dorisfenella I would say the main issue is that there are people who actually believe in a supernatural, invisible being, who lives everywhere and has magical powers. He is perfect, knows everything, and is all powerful even though he makes mistakes, is a hypocrite, obviously doesn't know everything, and is seemingly powerless (unless something good happens then he gets the credit). He is also above human emotion and comprehension even though he expresses extreme human emotion...
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 Bueno debe haber sido una barrera de lenguaje.
Lo que yo veo aqui es que es una travesura tuya de mal gusto para los misioneros.
Una travesura de adolescentes supongo.
Ellos te van a decir que es falso por que lo es.
dorisfenella 7 months ago
@dorisfenella ... to the point where I would recommend he see a psychiatrist. Your God is clearly insane.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 No that video is full of lies. God is not like you see in that video. That video was made for an excomunicated member who state in hatred.
dorisfenella 7 months ago
@dorisfenella I wasn't talking about the God in the video, I was talking about the God in the Bible.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 There is only one God and in that video is distorted.
dorisfenella 7 months ago
@dorisfenella Wow are you stupid or something. Let me repeat myself and Ill do it in capitals so you can read it. I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE GOD IN THAT VIDEO. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE GOD IN THE BIBLE. Actually to say there is only one God is clearly a stupid statement. There's the God of the Quran, the God of the Torah, the God of the Bible and that's just popular monotheistic Gods. I won't even start to get into the God's of polytheistic religions.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 That is the same God...the God of Abraham.
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
@L36EnDaRy the God of Abraham.... the God of "I demand you kill your first born son to prove your loyalty to me." He sounds like a Sith Lord.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 He didn't actually make Abraham go through with it, and Abraham still did get the promise that his descendants would be as numerous as the sands of the sea. Most of the people in the world are direct descendants of Abraham.
And let's not forget that God did actually have to sacrifice his own son for us, which the whole thing with Abraham was symbolic of, so that we may all be saved. It doesn't seem like you might believe that event took place at the moment, but I know it did. :)
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
@L36EnDaRy You don't know it did, you're just one of those tragically delusional people who has brainwashed themselves into ignoring fact and substituting it with faith. God wanted to see if Abraham had enough faith in God to murder his own son for him. It was for no other reason than to prove his loyalty and faith. God's vanity is astounding. Speaking of Jesus (whose real named couldn't be Jesus), who did God sacrifice Jesus to? Why did God need to make a sacrifice to forgive us?
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 (continuing) 1 day on Kolob is equal to 1,000 years on Earth. Even then, when Genesis says 7 days, it doesn't necessarily mean 7,000 years either, because the word "day" used there is referred to as a period of time. As for 7 Earth days, I remember my elders quorum president joking around saying, "Maybe...but not likely."
Also, I just got done seeing a South Park episode on the theory of evolution. I just thought it was a funny coincidence, LOL.
L36EnDaRy 6 months ago
@L36EnDaRy Why couldn't he just be an all powerful loving merciful God, and just forgive us? Or is none of this and the story is just used as, much like you just tried to use it against me, a guilt trip? A way to make people feel guilty so they'll fall to their knees and beg for forgiveness... then fill the church collection plate with their hard earned money.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 A couple of things...the LDS church is not a guilt trip type of deal when it comes to repentance, and tithing is not for the church, but for your own benefit. In fact, I don't have a job, so I'm not required to pay it, and if you pay more than 10%, then you're over-doing it. As for knowing that the atonement took place, I'll talk about it sometime. I'm a former thug and a recent convert to the church, and I'll tell you all my story sometime. It won't fit in 500 characters...
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
@L36EnDaRy Of course you don't think its a guilt trip type of deal you're a Mormon. Your opinion on Mormonism is very dismissible as you will be biased, and there is a conflict of interest. I don't want to read your story, but I'm assuming its something about how you're religion got you off the streets and blah blah. If only you could understand your own mind, you would realize it was not God who saved you. It was you who saved you. God is nothing more than your own alter ego.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 I grew up Catholic. LOL, one of my friends always joked around that guilt was a Catholic concept, haha. And it was me that got me off the streets of the Philippines, your correct. I'm in San Diego now, and that's where I picked up a Book of Mormon. And there's a difference between someone born into the church and is ignorant, and a convert who's seen everything else.
And the whole mind-trick theory isn't sufficient to explain things such as healing someone's leg back together. :P
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
@L36EnDaRy The only difference is you picked the ignorance that made the most sense to you. Although if a convert is not ignorant, then would an apostate also be not ignorant? What about an apostate who has studied religions?
Actually the mind-trick theory might explain a persons leg being healed depending on what you mean by being healed back together. If you can certainly present an undeniable miracle that proves God's existence I would definitely be very interested in seeing it.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 Not the best example: the theory of evolution and the creation don't really contradict each other. Creatures have different genetic traits, but you can't mate a dog and a cat to produce a new species.
Of course I can tell you about miracles that I have seen concerning the gifts of tongues and of healing, but those are other people's miracles. That's why covenant-borns are exhorted to "man up, and gain your own testimony," rather than piggy-backing off the testimonies of others.
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
@L36EnDaRy Never once has an evolutionary biologist claimed that you could mate 2 different species to create a new species that is not at all what the theory of evolution says. Members of the same species do have genetic differences, and they will pass these genes onto their offspring. Micro-Evolution is the mutation of genes in a species to give its members a slight advantage in the struggle for survival (this is also known as adaptation)....continued...
Plagueis1017 6 months ago
@Plagueis1017 Still doesn't deny the doctrine of the creation.
And faith is the belief and hope for things without a perfect knowledge, yeah. It doesn't mean to dismiss everything else that doesn't fit. James says that if you lack wisdom, then ask of God, and it shall be given you. Moroni states that if you are willing to read the Book of Mormon and ask if it's true, and things like that, you can build faith to the point of instantaneously healing injuries and sicknesses. (James 5:14-15)
L36EnDaRy 6 months ago
@L36EnDaRy It kind of does since the time frame given to us by the Bible is not nearly long enough for even 1 instance of Macro-Evolution. Not to mention that the Bible doesn't notate the process of gene mutation. It also says that man was created exactly as he is now. Which the Theory of Evolution says is not how it happened.
I have never heard or read a single documented instance of a person being healed of some illness or injury by faith.
Plagueis1017 6 months ago
@Plagueis1017 It's kind of funny, because it's hard to keep track of multiple comments on this page. Sometimes I get an alert of 1 new comment, and then find out the next time around that you posted up 2, and then have to read them later. It makes it more difficult that when I view this page, the comments are in order.
God does work through natural law. IDK the time frame in the Bible about the time frame, aside from 7 days not likely to be taken literally. The Pearl of Great Price states that
L36EnDaRy 6 months ago
@Plagueis1017 (continuing once more) Concerning documented instances of healing by faith, there are a few through LDS Church History (Alma Smith, Lorenzo Snow, etc.), and outside of the LDS church as well. They still occur frequently among LDS members through the process described in James 5:14-15, by asking the elders of the church for a blessing.
The talk Healing the Sick, by Elder Dallin H. Oaks, should provide more information. Youtube doesn't seem to be letting me post links though.
L36EnDaRy 6 months ago
@L36EnDaRy these mutated genes are passed onto the next generation, then passed on again, and again, and again. Over a period of millions of years, as more adaptations are added and the members of the species who didn't adapt die off, you eventually have an entirely new species. This is known as Macro-Evolution.
You're definitely going to have to do better than tell me to have my own "testimony"
Plagueis1017 6 months ago
@L36EnDaRy Oh and what you grew up as does not really matter, what you are now matters... So I think I would be safe in assuming you didn't understand my comment.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 So, what defines a "Mormon" to the point that he would be biased? Like I said, there are people who are born into the church, and they don't believe. A lot of them don't even believe in it until they've had a certain experience, or gone on a mission. Some people leave the church after things happen...stop "being Mormon." Just because they are members of the church doesn't mean they're biased.
Sooner or later, we all find out that there is a God. Better sooner rather than later.
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
@L36EnDaRy Faith defines a Mormon to the point of being biased. Belief without evidence. If you can believe without proof you can dismiss everything else that does not fit in with your world view. Evolution for example. Evolution is sadly still a topic of debate in spite of it being a scientific fact that is supported by mountains of evidence. You believe what cannot be verified and deny what has been verified.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@Plagueis1017 (last continuation) Hey man, it's been interesting chatting with you. I'm always happy to learn more. Members of the LDS church are encouraged by President Dieter F. Uchtdorf to know that education for us is not just a great idea, but a commandment as well. We are supposed to learn of the things of God, as well as the things of the world.
I'm happy to hear and learn more from you. Talking and thinking about all this has been fun.
L36EnDaRy 6 months ago
@Plagueis1017 (continuing once again) About why God needed Christ to be sacrificed for us: since God works through natural laws, and keeping in mind that while he's omniscient while we are still trying to progress in science, he has more knowledge about natural laws, and it will be a while before we get to that point. God had to send Jesus Christ to us because he is an immortal being, which means he isn't capable of death, so he could not suffer the atonement for us, and die for our sins.
L36EnDaRy 6 months ago
@Plagueis1017 (continuing) I heard from a friend who's a physics major that the odds of the universe coming together in the way it did without a guiding force are pretty slim. I don't remember the statistics he gave me though, LOL. I'll save that for college. :P
L36EnDaRy 6 months ago
@dorisfenella The existence of each of these is supported by the same basis of evidence as the God in the Bible, which is anonymous, primitive, unverifiable (often provably forged or tampered with) documents.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@dorisfenella The person who said that in the church was only speculating.
In other words, that is not official.
dorisfenella 6 months ago
@Plagueis1017 No, never happened...the video does have a lot of bullcrap, as those guys said.
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
All the mormons I've ever met are nice, but the religion is total garbage
iTr0ll 9 months ago 2
@iTr0ll Yeah, Mormons are nice--until they start interfering in other people's lives. How many millions of dollars came pouring into California from out of state, so that Prop 8 would pass and take away the right of same-sex couples to marry? I mean, of all people to lecture others about marriage! (Joseph Smith: as many as 48 wives; Brigham Young: 55 wives.)
cufflink44 8 months ago
@iTr0ll All mormons I've ever met were manipulative idiots, but I guess that's just me.
Plagueis1017 7 months ago
@iTr0ll You can't say until you've read the Book of Mormon, and pondered and prayed sincerely about it for yourself, without peer pressure from anyone.
And I exhort you to remember these things; for the time speedily cometh that ye shall know that I lie not, for ye shall see me at the bar of God; and the Lord God will say unto you: Did I not declare my words unto you, which were written by this man, like as one crying from the dead, yea, even as one speaking out of the dust? -Moroni 10:27
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
u ass hole fuckhead. in Job of ur christian bible states that all the Sons of God came to present them selves unto the lord. and satan came among them. read the first 2 chapters of job. and u just got own in Christianity. and then Jesus in ur christian bible Jesus says "Ye are God" in John, research more yo, for real.
ussjange 9 months ago
@Proud2bePoly You're Mormon be nice!
laceycoke 9 months ago
SO...why the setup? Why not just approach the missionaries if you want to debate, and ask them? Why video tape someone without permission? You are arguing from a Christian perspective, but your whole approach is deceptive. The truth is, your just Chicken-shit!
By the way - I'm a Mormon critic, so this isn't a defense of Mormonism.
bigone376 11 months ago
@bigone376 Cool my religion has whole groups dedicated to tearing us down, are you THAT jealous of us???
laceycoke 9 months ago
lmfao, the south park one hahaha
darknessdescends69 11 months ago
I love the way one of the missionaries keeps looking around to see if someone is watching him. He is like, I hope there are no other Mormons watching me, because I will be in trouble.
wagmaster5000 1 year ago
HE-MAM and the Mormons of the Universe. "I have the POWER!!!"
Thoughtland 1 year ago
this vid helped me on the way to converting to mormonism thank you GO ZOLTAN!
Ramble1212 1 year ago
It's funny to hear one superstitious person talk shit about anothers superstitions. Choose to live a reality base life.
subacute 1 year ago 2
@therogman2005 there is a part 2
nonginger 1 year ago
lol its so funny they go STRAIGHT INTO the religious talk
MidnightCardinal 1 year ago
god bless the Jesus of Mormonism! Long live the King of Kings of Kings. I love every Jesus but the Protestant Jesus. He had those shifty eyes.
grandmabilly2000 1 year ago
the music to that video is so menacing!
grandmabilly2000 1 year ago
This is great stuff.. "Joseph Smith known for his 'Tall Tales'." Or LIES!!!!!
Christknight1990 1 year ago 2
Great! Why shouldn't religion be challenged? Why not? It has the power to terminate life. Religion is losing out..slowly. We can replace religion with friendship, empathy, sympathy, striving for no harm etc...WE CAN do it. We MUST DO BETTER.
23skeedoo 1 year ago
@23skeedoo we must do better, exactly the message of Jesus Christ.
pangeanet 1 year ago
@pangeanet please..I've read the old testament. I prefer to take internal dictation when it comes to right and wrong. What's the "message" of scripture? Weird, violent stories? Keep your religion to YOURSELF. JUST SAY NO TO BRONZE AGE MYTHS.
23skeedoo 1 year ago
@23skeedoo clearly you don't believe the Holy Bible to be the word of God. You can find example of bad people and violence, corruption, greed, mans inhumanity to man, so on and so forth all all throughout history you don't have to just read about it in the Bible. I really don't understand what you are saying unless it is you want to censor my beliefs and my speech and allow yours only.
pangeanet 1 year ago
@pangeanet of course I don't believe in the holy bible. Weird, stupid stories. Like the story of Lot. Oh yeah, that really happened. after fleeing the city, he had drunken sex with his daughters. If these stories are true and should be a source of moral inspiration, what does that say about the people that follow the bible? I HOPE they just ignore all the BAD stuff. Keep watching over the years as religion slowly loses out. Statistics are showing it now. Pew studies confirm it.
23skeedoo 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 So now you understand. Thats a good first step there.
haidermann1 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 AHAHAHAHA lol. because the truth is too Plain and precious for you isn't it.
Isn't it?
How are Africans going to get the chance to have the priesthood, AFTER the rest of the seed of Adam gets it, when in 1867, there were hardly any stakes of zion outside of deseret territory?
You have to have stakes and organization. God just doesn't say "here you go run a muck". He organizes. BY 1980 the entire world had pretty much been footpathed by missionaries, and the church foundation laid
haidermann1 1 year ago
@Baurak Yea, Glad to. You see Grnmessiah, the wording of prophecies are instrumental in understanding the lords intent. notice the wording in this one,.."Can the present struggle free the slave? NO! HAM MUST BE THE SERVANT OF SERVANTS UNTIL THE CURSE IS REMOVED."
1. What was the curse? The loss of Priesthood.
2. Who may obtain the priesthood? Only the free.
3. When did the African people gain their freedom? 1869? no 1969?no
Only after civil rights and Global recognition was granted 1950-1980
haidermann1 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 Well thats not a false prophecy thats 100% true.
haidermann1 1 year ago
So you're looking for an answer to this part of his sermon then?
""Can the present struggle free the slave? NO! HAM MUST BE THE SERVANT OF SERVANTS UNTIL THE CURSE IS REMOVED. Can you destroy the decrees of the Almighty? YOU CANNOT. Yet our Christian brethren think that they are going to overthrow the sentence of the Almighty upon the seed of Ham. THEY CANNOT DO THAT, though they may kill them by thousands and tens of thousands.” U think this is false?
haidermann1 1 year ago
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@BaurakAle7 In other comments you have called him Racist. You have used J0D to support your claim. why you changing it now?
haidermann1 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 I was just wondering if you were going to apply that to Paul. I never said Brigham was an Abolitionist. I said he was accused of it. Its kinda Hard to be both a racist and an Abolitionist. If you were alive in the 1800's you would be calling him an abolitionist. But today you call him aracist because you flow with the Hate.
Yea I thought so Homer.
haidermann1 1 year ago 2
"If Brigham Young says that there is no point in fighting slavery, because it was divinely mandated, and God promised to sustain it, but he said that people who abused their slaves were going to face judgment for abusing their slaves, does that make him an abolitionist?"
Did you not say this to me?
haidermann1 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 They must not answer them back or steal from them. Instead, they must show that they are always good and faithful, so as to bring credit to the teaching about God our Savior in all they do.” 2: 9-10.
So tell me, Sven, are you going to now openly Bash the Apostle Paul? as well as Brigham, Joseph any of the other old Mormon leaders?
Lets hear you bash Paul and condemn the bible.
haidermann1 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 But far from condemning the practice amongst fellow Christians and in the wider world, Paul does the opposite by arguing that slave masters, be they Christians or non-Christians, must be given respect by their slaves. It is striking just how emphatic Paul is about this, particularly in his use of words such as “must” and “all”.
Paul’s letter to Titus tells slaves in no uncertain terms that : “Slaves are to submit to their masters and please them in all things.
haidermann1 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 Yea? What of the attitude of Paul ? He wrote : “Those who are slaves must consider their masters worthy of all respect, so that no one will speak evil of the name of God and of our teaching. Slaves belonging to Christian masters must not despise them, for they are their brothers.” (1 Timothy 6:1-2).
Paul’s reference to “Christian masters” immediately reveals that early Christians owned slaves. Cont.
haidermann1 1 year ago
@haidermann1 exactly "Give unto God that which is God's and unto Caeser that which is Caesers" neither you can not judge a time two centuries ago by todays standards. Just like the word Nigger was at that time considered acceptable and everyone used it even Abraham Lincoln.
AnFhirinne 1 year ago
@AnFhirinne You're correct. Nigger had two definitions. First was to describe black. Negroe was black inlatin from the spanish and moore slave traders. It also denoted uneducated which is what slaves were because they didn't have the same rights as the free.
People just want to spread hate and bitterness to us. it is the final times. Be thou prepared.
haidermann1 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 "Perhaps you ought to read that sermon from October 6, 1863 "
Oh you mean the one that states "For their abuse of [the Black African] race, the whites will be cursed, unless they repent. " Yea nice sermon.
he saints were accused of being abolitionists and a threat to the status of the state of Missouri, then a slave state. D. Charles Pyle, Encyclopedia of Mormonism
In Utah the Ute wars were about interrupting slave trade with Mexican Miners. Joseph said to set Blacks free.
haidermann1 1 year ago
Those poor boys are so brain washed they can't even respond. Hilarious! Mormons are such freaks!
SDBossofBosses 1 year ago
People fighting over religion sucks.
wellesradio 1 year ago 3
@wellesradio I couldn't agree more. Contention never encourages the spirit of good.
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 6
@wellesradio People fighting over religion sucks.
It does Suck. Contention is totally of the Devil. And I accept & Own my part in it here on the "tube", and would rather have decent mature conversations of respect with people, but that's not possible with those who do not relish peace.
The war in Heaven was called such for a reason. Lucifer Got the boot because there could be no peace with him there. Lately I tend to lean to St. Jude 1-3, and feel obligated to Contend for the Faith.
haidermann1 1 year ago
Ah oh,.. they started explaining the truths and the dissonance about that Queer cartoon made by the God makers, and you cut off the discussion.
Shame on you. Not very objective of you.
The Church of Jesus Christ of LatterDay Saints is true, it is the Kingdom of God on this Earth.
I invite anyone that has legit concerns or questions to hit me up in a PM
AnFhirinne , keep up the good work.
haidermann1 1 year ago
@haidermann1 I love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and all others as we teach so it makes me ill to see those who would propogate incorrect information about our beliefs I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, nor do I want Him to be ashamed of me so I must always at least give those who actually want to know our beliefs the truth. We never put down others or teach to put down others. Our faith is simple, our faith is about the unconditional love Christ taught. Thanks again God bless you.
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 2
@AnFhirinne I couldn't agree more. I walk shoulders back and up right before God about my religious convictions. I love all, but am weak, and to those Anti Christs I call them as the Savior called the sagesees and Pharisees, a generation of Vipers.
Youtube unfortunately does not foster a spiritual God filled environment. It is the anterior of the Spirit world. It is the digitized plain between paradise and prison. It is a continuance to the War in Heaven. I keep the side I chose there today.
haidermann1 1 year ago 3
@haidermann1 so true and many who would be bold here are paper tigers in real life. People tell much about themselves by what they do when they think no one else is watching. I try to always be myself where ever I am. I believe this a great outlet of sharing the gospel of unconditional love of Christ. I feel the internet, especially finding pure information on youtube is like sifting through tons of coal for that one diamond. Reminds me of the story of the pearl of great price,
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 3
I'm a crappy Member. I know that. I don't deserve the title "Mormon" let alone "LatterDay Saint."
But I know truth when I see it. I know the spirit when I feel it. I know Lies when I hear them. I have been blessed with discernment. The Church of Jesus Christ of LatterDay saints is True. It is Christs literal Kingdom on Earth. It is a preparatory institution for his rule as King. There'll be other religions, even into the Millenium, but every one will bow and confess he is the Savior eventualy
haidermann1 1 year ago
@haidermann1 Yeah, I was reading Moroni 10:27-29, and it says that the time will come when God will show us that Moroni writes the truth.
L36EnDaRy 7 months ago
@AnFhirinne the ignorant one is you unfortunately. Just look around you there are few "colored" people in your church because that was the way it was designed. Don't lie and tell me its not true. Your a racist and you know it and your religion is too. You will pay for it and your choice to not acknowledge how racist its origins are is also something you will pay for.
michelleandjamonti 1 year ago
@michelleandjamonti What a sad bigotted stance you like to take.
haidermann1 1 year ago
@haidermann1 on the contrary you are the one knee deep in it...if not please explain why your church believes the mark of cain is being a colored person and that is how sin it identified. Or tell me why the "colored" were not allowed the priesthood or even to be part of your church until the pressure from the government in the late 70's your name calling exhibits one major thing that is guilt.. tell me haidermann how many black people are part of your ward and be honest with yourself?
michelleandjamonti 1 year ago
@michelleandjamo You are a Bigot. And your text is saturated in Hate and Bigotry. Why should I justify Gods work to a wretch? Why should I attempt to teach a hatemonger about spirituality? Or understanding the worst curse is Loss of priesthood, which many people besides black people have had to endure on this earth. Why should I have to trudge up facts such as There were blacks in our church from the day of its legitimization 1830, when other whites wanted nothing to do with them? LDS is true
haidermann1 1 year ago 2
@michelleandjamonti I can only speak of myself of what I have heard, coming from many generations back and we have always taught to love every single one Heavenly Father's children equally. You act as if you can judge me without knowing me this is bigoted by definition so you have no moral high ground from which to preach. We will all one day stand before Jesus Christ as our judge. I try to live as Jesus taught to love all unconditionally. What do you believe in?
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 5
well then your generations chose to not tell you about your great revelation of 1978 or did you choose to forget it you know that you did not allow blacks the priesthood until after the huge actions of peple like martin luther king forced equally and the govt made your religion open its doors.bottom line in my lifetime your religion has been the most racist of all that I have studied and as I asked you again look around your lunatic ward and tell me how many black people are there with you?
michelleandjamonti 1 year ago
@michelleandjamonti apparently your studies have been lacking or based upon sources such as this. Joseph Smith himself was against slavery and for equality of all people. No one ever forced us to allow anyone into our churches ever, members of all races including blacks immigrated west and were pioneers. In Missouri the locals feared the Mormons because they knew it would hurt the number of votes they would get to become a slave state. We have always taught we may all return to live with God.
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 3
@michelle How can you be both racist and be accused of Being an abolitionist? This is what happened with the 19th century LDS. GOD blessed Hamitic linage with the priesthood. not "Us", and when did blacks gain their freedom? 1867?1967? no it wasn't until 1978 Blacks GLOBALLY gained their freedom. The priesthood is about being FREE to serve. Those FORCED to serve, are cursed without the priesthood.
When did whites get the restored Priesthood? Not until America instituted FREEDOM of religion.
haidermann1 1 year ago
Disgusting... this is not a banned mormon cartoon lol... if you any of you believe that... your just as ignorant as the person who posted it.. this is from the "god makers movie" made by excommunicated mormons, they use anti-mormon material to persecute the church to satisfy their own anger toward the church. they use their ex-membership and partial truths to pervert the truth of what we believe. if the poster is a Christian he/she should learn that persecution is not of God.. Matthew 15:11
Veritatis101 1 year ago 2
@therogman2005 Clearly..
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 12
@AnFhirinne yes clearly he is not doing this in the spirit of love and brotherly kindness but sadly many who claim to be Christian even in my own faith are so in word only not in deed. I believe it is important to actually live by Christ's teachings and I am not perfect but I certainly aspire to be a better person and follow the gospel of Jesus Christ.
pangeanet 1 year ago
The fact that you are clearly "getting off" on secretly videotaping someone with the intention to demean and degrade them is itself completely against what Jesus Christ Himself taught. Could you picture Jesus Christ as such a voyeur? This is disgusting on every level of Christianity or what Jesus Christ taught about loving your neighbor.
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 8
@AnFhirinne dude. There isn't even prove of Jesus of Nazereth existing. Texts created about his life spawned over 2 centuries after his death.
SoCalyankeefan 1 year ago
@AnFhirinne This isn't to demean them, after watching this video I legitimately wanted to see how Mormons would react to this, and I wanted to see if this was true, this is fantastic for me.
AmericanSpur 1 year ago
@AmericanSpur well I hope you know that basically I'd say 95% of this is incorrect it was intentionally made as a propoganda film by an ex-member name Ed Decker who was a ward clerk who claimed to be "high up" in the church but was excommunicated for adultery and rather than go through the repentence process(which is actually to help us) and come back into full activity he chose to continue living in sin and attack the church aka justify his sins instead of moving on. lds dot org for beliefs.
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 3
@AnFhirinne are YOU sure?
im gonna give ya a break..go read your bible and see if you still have the same thoughts! ill check back..if you dont recant your stupid statement ...i will quote over 100 verses that contradict what u stated! and dont give me the ol "OUT OF CONTEXT" crap...i know of no church where the entire bible is read!
WORLDARYANREVIVAL 1 year ago
@WORLDARYANREVIVAL just curious what does your username mean?
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 2
@AnFhirinne No, your wrong about that. Jesus condemned men, cursing them and bringing Gods wrath upon them. He called men dead bones, and broods of vipers! (Matthew 23:33.) Jesus condemned religion, and the law, and authority. He came to abolish religion. Ask yourself this, why was jesus killed. He was killed as a blasphemer because of the claims that he made as the Son of God and the things he would say. Read the bible yourself, don't be decieved
JPBuysjr 1 year ago
All this cartoon does is show the ignorance of those who made it of the intelligence of real truth seekers and understimated them when this was made to deliberately decieve the world to believe this is actually what Mormons believe. Anyone who knows what Mormons believe would laugh at this for it's feeble attempt to portray such a ridiculous belief system. The same way most feel who are not members when watching this is exactly how members feel knowing how full of crap this video is.
AnFhirinne 1 year ago 8
This is better than watching reactions to two girls one cup.
TheJuicebumps 1 year ago
At PM 7 I was going to the Meeting and I called just for confirm...
mrpepperoriginal 1 year ago