Eurofighter typhoon 'Nothing comes close' !

[VanillaSnow23]

There are better....

[cwood4ever]

LOOK AT ALL THESE KEYBOARD EXPERTS. None of you could fly a prop air plane on a clear day so stfu. Btw im American so im not even a fan of the Euro fighter but I know that the F22 and the EF will only see each other in war on the same side taking out Chinese and Russian crap.

[Achurrillo]

Music?

Great Job!

;)

[MikeySpicy1212]

all pilot who have flow the typhoon have said its the best ever. Even the USAF and fernch pilots have said they prefer it to the f22. Ease of use, best HUD, more maneuverable, massive carrying capacity. World leading radars can detect stealth planes... too bad. serves america right for bragging about stealth.

[wellerocks]

@MikeySpicy1212 that sounds like a comment from a 11 year old kid. The "payload" of the Eurofighter is not that impressive. A Gripen NG can carry almost as much, but with half the original weight, and have a better T/W ratio with a full air-ground payload by only having one engine. The F-22 is more advanced than any of the European fighter jets in BVR conditions, atleast to this date.

[MikeySpicy1212]

@wellerocks Called it a payload, because some people don't fully understand a majority of factors in jet avionics, winning a fight. Some times you have to go to basics, for EVERYONE to understand, as there are people who are not mature/knowledgeable enough to put the full knowledge of avionics in its technical terms. The EFs capacity/Ergonomically viable is better that its rivals. RAF typhoons will have world leading armaments by 2015. F22, not as advanced as you may think.

[MrFallenGreg]

oh baby the g froce on that

[MrSolid95]

I dont know where the F22 came from to this video....I think that ppl will only shut up when they see a dogfight between these 2 aircrafts! But I dont think that is going to happen. If you ever see a Typhoon and a Raptor together, it'll only be against an enemy, not each other! Only then it will be proven which is best!

[Joynson67]

isnt this plane said to be impossible to fly with out the electronics helping out the pilot. or it will just fall out of the sky.

[Gripen90]

@Joynson67 yup... just like the F16.

[wellerocks]

@Joynson67 Most planes as of today are built unstable to be able to perform maneuvering regular airplanes simply can't. SAAB experimented with this on the SAAB draken, but back then they didn't have a lot of hi tech flight computers, so it was much more prone to stalling, crashing and going into spins & spirals. With modern jets such as the Gripen, they've installed computer systems that adjusts the plane with thousands of marginals to correct it from being unstable.

[SokelaTI]

@Joynson67 Yes, the EF was made purposely unstable, thats why it's so agile and so capable at close range dogfights without even using thrust vectoring.

[shaikhdishgan1]

nothing comes close????

every one is saying to his faveret fighter nothing comes close,i thing this is sick .

[Mayank91912]

Best fighter for indian mmrca deal

[wellerocks]

@Mayank91912 In whaaaat possible way is this the best fighter for the Indian M-MRCA deal? It's the most expensive in both flying, purchasing and in maintenance. It's the oldest of the three and it's the least effective one of them. The Gripen has scored a total of 2 simulated kills on the Eurofighter and 4 Rafalés went up against 4 Eurofighter at a combat exercise simulation with 3 rounds. The Result was 4-0, 4-1, 4-0 to the Rafalé. It's the absolute worst choice India could possibly do. 

[MikeySpicy1212]

@wellerocks love how some american journalists made this up. No hard evidence of this was found. Ive read an article on this, and they said the simulations where against 2nd generation planes. Its like the game Chinese whispers, people keep adding bollocks on. your not helping.

[wellerocks]

@MikeySpicy1212 Why in gods name would American journalists say a french or a Swedish plane were able to beat an English/German/Italian/Saudi Arabian jet? That's such bullshit. The EF will be the last of the 3 european jets to get an AESA radar, the last to get true multi-roll capability and the last to get the METEOR integrated. It's also the one that has gotten the largest decrease from the original number planned. This even though being funded by so many large economies...

[MikeySpicy1212]

@wellerocks decrease in production = Because not many countries can afford its original quantity due to the Americans financially messing up. Also do you believe everything your told? Considering there is no hard evidence that these tests happened, at the moment its (most likely) hearsay. BAE systems are preparing final tests on radar adaptability and with the EFs, introducing a new range of sensitivity. Normally Sensitivity has to be low, but BAE have rewritten the rules.Plzdontmakemeexplain.

[diviengi]

there are a lot other planes witch are way better, SU-35, F-22, Dessault rafale M, F-15, im not saying that is useless, just that there are other planes ahead of it.

[Helge129]

The F22 isn't better in any way, as a matter of fact, it sucks compared to EF2000 and SU-35. The Rafale cannot go up against a EF2k either, the F15 even less, and SU-35 vs EF2k would be...intresting to say the least. You'd probably see a swirling lot endlessly in the sky :P

[em745aa]

-"The F22 isn't better in any way"

Wrong. As an air superiority fighter, the F-22 is better in virtually EVERY way (as a matter of fact).

-"it sucks compared to EF2000 and SU-35"

How utterly SHOCKING that a spaniard would think that. :)

Question: would you feel the same way if the EF had been a USA design and the F-22 an EU one? (I think we all know the answer to that one.)

-"Rafale cannot go up against a EF2k either"

Recent ATLC in the UAE apparently say otherwise. ;)

[Helge129]

Apparently they say, and so does the airforce, that the EF2000 is better than the F22.

And if the F22 was a european design and the EF2000 I would think the same, even tho they probably would be completely different.

PS: I'm not spanish, I only live here.

[em745aa]

-"Apparently they say, and so does the airforce, that the EF2000 is better than the F22."

Who are "they?" When did "they" or the USAF say this? Where's your proof?

[em745aa]

-"And if the F22 was a european design and the EF2000 I would think the same, even tho they probably would be completely different."

Typical of EF fanboys, dodging the question by giving yourself an out (i.e. "even tho they probably would be completely different").

Assume the EF is American and the F-22 European, AND BOTH ARE *EXACTLY* AS THEY ARE NOW. Would you still be an EF fanboy?

[Helge129]

They being the UAE. and the USAF chief of staff said that no other jet he ever flew performed as good as the EF2000, I'd have to look for the source tho.

[em745aa]

-"They being the UAE."

The United Arab Emirates have specifically, publicly stated that the Eurofightyer is better than the F-22??? Really? That sure is news to me. Was there a press release? Is there a link to it somewhere?

[em745aa]

-"and the USAF chief of staff said..."

(Geez!)

Gen. J. P. Jumper said that in 2004. He first flew the F-22 in 2005. And there's no mention as to what block F-15/16 he flew in the past to cause him to make that judgement (late block F-15/16's are vastly better than earlier blocks--different engines/avionics). And as far as I know, he's never flown the Hornets.

In short, Jumper's comments are worthless. I'd rather believe THIS guy:

watch?v=vZ-Mfd6K6CI

[OlderG0ds]

That guys just a fucking idiot talking out his ass. As most Eurofighter cheerleaders do.

It doesn't matter how much evidence you provide them with, it's a case of bitter denial. Has nothing to do with the capabilities of the machine but what the flag on the side of it is.

Watch this .. /watch?v=9aXYS0cmkQ0

RAF pilot, the only one to actually fly the F-22 says it's easily the best.

[deeka24]

impressive climb rate almost as good as the 1960's jet the english electric lightning the last true british built jet fighter, and still holds ground to altitude records to this day, now the lightning...nothing comes close

[dj8work]

@deeka24 i think u will find the EF climb rate is greater @ 62,000ft/min to EEL 50.000ft/min

[deeka24]

well if you care to check the brakes off to alt records...In November 2006, at the Overberg air show Stock took the Lightning to new heights, reaching 60000m in less than 70 seconds, setting a new All Africa record.

also copied from thunder city web site The Lightning is known for its vertical climb performance and it still holds a number of world climb-to-altitude records. It is capable of Mach 2.2 (1500 m.p.h.) and an initial climb rate of 50,000 feet per minute. no mention of the ef

[dj8work]

@deeka24 well its been verified the EF2000 climb rate is 60,000. google it for ur self.. dont, get me wrong i love the EEL

[deeka24]

well dont get me wrong either my friend i love the EF as well...lol just like the EEL more the unoffical record was set by a good friend of mine the late wing cdr Brian Carroll, now he could tell a story or two,

[dj8work]

@deeka24 ive just been reading about brian carroll and it was his statement where i got my EEL 50,000 Climb rate from lol

[deeka24]

ok i will come clean yes usually 50,000 per min, however the record set in south africa was a lightinig stripped down ventral tank off and all non essensials taken off to make it as light as possible, it was also the unpainted natural finish polished beyond belife, so it had a bit of an advantage :)

[dj8work]

@deeka24 lol well I've always like the natural finish look on the EEL

[00rouchy00]

wuld be better with better music.....

[diviengi]

the Dessault rafale M has better aerodynamics. personally i like better the dessault. looks hotter.

[BigGee84]

No it doesn't. The Rafale wouldn't stand a chance.

[em745aa]

-"No it doesn't. The Rafale wouldn't stand a chance."

Recent flyoffs in the UAE say otherwise. ;)

[BigGee84]

Funny, you'll accept anecdotal evidence ONLY when it shows the Typhoon in a negative light.

[em745aa]

-"Funny, you'll accept anecdotal evidence ONLY when it shows the Typhoon in a negative light."

Just as YOU accept anecdotal evidence ONLY when it shows the F-22 in a negative light.

Tit for tat. :)

[BigGee84]

"It is a very capable aircraft and better than the American F-16 he champions. In a recent competition run by Singapore to find a replacement for its F-16 fighters, Typhoon was up against the American F15E and the French Rafale. Typhoon won all three combat tests, including one in which a single Typhoon defeated three RSAF F-16s, and reliably completed all planned flight tests. According to one observer, neither competitor aircraft could claim the same"

(Defence Analysis August 2004).

[diviengi]

even if it hurts you it is. it takes way more time and space for the typhoon to roll. there are a lot of other planes way better than the typhoon.

[nightravenonline]

Excellent perfect maschine - can beat anything down from the sky !

The music ? its Elvis and hes goooood to !

[ROMCHICK1976]

kool Eurofighter typhoon go to 1989 year mig 29M & SU 27 characteristic.

[peterboroughmike]

The plane is a beautiful piece of engineering. As proud as I am of our armed forces, the Typhoon was outdated the day it rolled off the production line.

[matthew220891]

Very very true. We need aircraft carriers and helicopters for infantry, not Eurofighters.

[FLINTY876]

awsome plane and a awsome song!!! :D

[alfa1818]

lol

[Rhydian2252]

The Sukhoi 30 is designed to dog-fight, now that technology is getting nearer to solving the air to air weapons, nothing the west has can beat Sukhoi in that !

Don't listen to advertising, simply 'you tube' Sukhoi 30 and see for yourself. Let's hope we never have to fight the Indian Air Force !

[reeve2222]

The Eurofighter is a fantastic airframe, but to say that nothing comes close is a not exactly accurate. According to the results from operation red flag in 2008, the F-22 raptor out scored the Eurofighter; flown by Great Britain, the Su-30MK1: flown by the Indian Airforce, and the Rafale: flown by the French Airforce. Not to menion that the F-15C Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon both racked up better kill ratio's than the Typhoon. Your choice, is it lack of quality in the airframe, or the pilots?

[jaguarfarewellday]

Not Pilots or airframe not at fault here. Typhoon is a swing role fast jet !. F 22 raptor is a pure air superemcy fighter like the f 15 Eagles. Typhoon designed to work with the raptor in combat.

[sambo734]

YOU MY FRIEND TALK SENSE!!! :D finally someone who knows somet whats true

[TavernProductions]

@jaguarfarewellday The EF also managed to claim some F22 raptors as Kills

[jomparinsqui]

In fact F-22 was scored by some F-18.

But F-22 and Typhoon are both planes for allies, I don't now why is there so much rivality between their fans. Specially with F-22 fans :S

[morzee94]

@reeve2222 the F-15 also has better kills than the F-22 because it's a workhorse. doesn't mean it's better. And actually the United States Air Force Chief of Staff said after flying the Eurofighter, "I have flown all the air force jets. None was as good as the Eurofighter". Also when the Eurofighter had a mock dog fight with the F15-C, it won. and during the Singapore evaluation a single Typhoon took out three F-16's. I do agree with you though that the F-22 is equally good if not better

[bicepius]

@reeve2222 I know this is an old comment but LOL what is your source? that is not true. The f22 has lost funding becuase of its major shortcomings as of 2010, It lost badly against the typhoon at close and extreme range in 2007. Here is a quote too "I have flown all the air force jets and none is as good as the Eurofighter,” USAF Chief of Staff General John Jumper said as he climbed out of the cockpit of a German Air Force Eurofighter at Laage air base in Germany"

[johnstamonsta]

Great video! Loved it.

Am i right in saying that it was designed on a falcon? The most steamlined thing on the planet!

In my opinion, possibly the best plane in the world. And the fact that the RAF are also the one of the best forces in the world if not the best! I can not wait until i am old enough to sign up. Can i ask, do you know what sort of degrees, qualifications or A levels i will need?

[NewtMessiah60]

Degree in Aeronautical engineering (preferable) + a list as long as your life of extra-curricular skills and qualifications. Basically, get cracking man (Y)

[johnstamonsta]

Haha, thanks man. :)

[29Gixxer]

Dude I wish you the best of luck but the issue you will have is even if you excel in your studies you will be competing in a highly competetive field.

Best of luck.

[215alessio]

Those fat americans always shitting on every other country that develops something beautiful.

Now here is the fact: " we developped the Typhoon to get rid of those junk F16 that some times with no reason fall out of the skies.

It looks also thta the EF is a bit swifter than the raptor. and its made of composit materials instead of weak and heavyer allum. The belly of the EF is protected by layers of kevlar.

I think the EF doesn't need stealth, its made to defend Europe

[DukeFan1971]

You know what? I'm going to go on record as saying that anyone spouting technical details needs to really get out of the house more often. Can't you just watch some fighter footage and enjoy it without sinking into a d*** size contest over aircraft? Here's the way I figure it...until the U.S. and EU become mortal enemies, you're not likely to see an EF go up against an F-22. They're both great fighters, with their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Everyone get over yourselves.

[BOYCOT4YT]

the eurofighter is a genuine catastrophe concept...just as the fact s prove europa is a sinking ship today hi-jacked by islam terrorists who drain it from all financial sources with just one goal...the REVERSED CRUSADES both on civilian AND military level.

( thanx england for ass kissing the saudi arabia kingdom!)

[bubbles867]

Says the American with a president who isnt white and has a middle name of Hussain? There may be loads of muslims in Europe but at least we dont have one running the country

[29Gixxer]

lol youv'e been had by the same USA trolls with multiple accounts that done me.

Whahaha

[bubbles867]

It seems that way , but its obvious to me that truth obviously does hurt just when i mentioned Barack 'i am a muslim' Obama oh did i mention his name real middle name was Hussain!!!!!! He even admitted to being a muslim , that might explain his very lax foreign policy.

[29Gixxer]

lol its the same here m8

watch?v=Eb_jqsg13wY

Yeah he may think he's being budda by beng a fanny but it wll lead to more trouble in the future....

[bubbles867]

Yep , people dont realise that taking a relatively soft stance on countries leads to action , dare i say Chamberlain appeasing Hitler in 1938? Its the same again , we need people in power with a backbone like Tony Balir again and George dubbya

[29Gixxer]

Damn your the 1st guy that I come across that said that about good old Blair. I always rated that guy even when the media was scourging him. You obvioulsy use your brain & don't just follow the sheep :)

Blair stood for no shit. I can count at least 4 actions undertaken under his leadership...

[bubbles867]

Yep , at least Blair had the balls and the conviction to stand up to the UK and majority of the world and agree with us going to Afghan and Iraq right or wrong he stood by his word , not to mention the unbelievable work he did for N.Ireland thats all thanks to him . I would only vote Labour if he was coming back into office as PM

[bollybib678]

@BOYCOT4YT Ass Kicking*

[INACIOARTEPRODUCOES]

SO ELVIS DIED DRIVING ONE OF THIS?

[leighsm]

ROCKS!

[Widsy320]

Good video...shame about the MUSAK!

Bloody Elvis?.... He's as dead as a Buccaneer!

[lucianmop]

hahahhahahaha a little less conversation a little more action please. haha great elvis and great eurofighter. well done haha

[drapdv]

Slowest missile ever lol

[disablingsquid]

nice job

[nanoload]

The typhoon is a great jet, with great maneuverability, but still, the F-22 is much much better.

[themelodramaticclam]

dont agree that the F-22 is much better.

As a american general once said comparing the two. "its like comparing NASCAR and Formula 1. They are both very good at different things."

Such as Eurofighter: manuverability, dogfighting and bombing. Its one of the best if not the best at these fields. It doesnt look really advanced but its one of the most tech advanced in the world.

The Raptor is all about stealth and getting to the enemy without them noticing(doesnt always work) and dogfighting.

[tamainemiller]

is that a joke mann.....the f-22 can do all that....it is the best at manuverability....

[themelodramaticclam]

soz what i meant to say is that they are about the same in manuverability and all that but the EF agility is a small notch above(agility and manuverability different things) but when/if the Tranche 3 or 4 (cant remember which) comes out they are more updated ones and so will be very likely have better manuverability as well. So before u go all american on my ass u might want to read the facts before u start talking shit out your mouth.

[madmax2069]

The only reason the F-22 could out maneuver the EF-2000 (and win in a dogfight) is the fact the F-22 has whats called thrust vectoring (which the Tranche 1 doesn't have).

now the Typhoon does have foreplanes (which can force the plane to almost act like it has thrust vectoring).

but i think its a plan upgrade for the EF-2000. but if/when the typhoon gets thrust vectoring it would probably win against the F-22.

[madmax2069]

They really need to do a mock up dogfight between the EF-2000 and F-22. i think the EF-2000 without Thrust vectoring will give the F-22 a run for the money because it is so nimble even without Thrust vectoring ( if you ask me its the only other plane that could) but i think the EF-2000 without thrust vectoring would loose but the F-22 wouldn't come out untouched.

but if/when the EF-2000 gets thrust vectoring it would in my opinion win against the F-22 . but that would depend on the pilots.

[MeGoSwearAtYou]

"madmax2069", Dude first of all you really need to proof-read because you make no sense and I can't understand you. First of all, with or without thrust vectoring the EF would never take down a fifth generation air superiority fighter like the Raptor. The Raptor has many better things over the EF, better avionics, AESA radar, stealth, thrust vectoring, maneuvering and to top it all off, it looks sexy. The Raptor can detect and destroy on-coming targets without being noticed.

[blablubb12345]

Where does this "way better avionics" claim come from? The EF has a comparable avionics suite, falling short in terms of radar but with some goodies the F22 doesnt have like a modern infrared tracking system and helmet mounted sight. The Captor-M is the best mechanically scanned radar ever built and the AESA upgrade is already flying in the German DA5 development aircraft, let's wait how good it gets.

[1927henritta]

no captor will not hold its own vs apg -77 or 79

no way men.

[dj8work]

wow thank u for providing me information to prove me wrong lol

[MeGoSwearAtYou]

With that ability said, it kind of defeats your "but the F-22 wouldn't come out untouched" point and saying it all comes down to the pilots is bullshit. Other than if the Raptor was piloted by a monkey, it would win hands-down. Thrust-vectoring isn't a big game changer, so don't go saying if the EF had thrust vectoring it would win. The only way the F-22 could be shot down, is if it was handicapped, 'cause you cannot defeat it's stealth: Detect, Kill, Fly off undetected.

[blablubb12345]

Every plane flying fast has a huge infrared signature. A modern infrared tracking system can lock on such a heat signature. EM emissions (Radar) can also be tracked, even the F22s APG 77. The F22 probably IS the best fighter at long distance and hard to detect but it is not invisible to modern tracking systems.

[Youradumbassbarnes]

and the EF will dodge the AMRAAM and they have other radar tracking planes that can detect stealth.

The EF is also much better at high speed turns than the F-22

[MrPikon]

"EM emissions (Radar) can also be tracked, even the F22s APG 77."

The APG-77 employs LPI (Low Probability of Intercept) techniques claimed to make it virtually impossible to detect, while the Typhoon's ESM system is claimed to be capable of detecting radars ( the F-35's APG-81 specifically) which employ LPI techniques.

It's certainly possible to detect/classify LPI signals, but it's not known whether the Typhoon's ESM system is capable of detecting the F-22's APG-77 specifically.

[MeGoSwearAtYou]

But in maneuverability maybe it would be close. The EF's got forward canards, the Raptor's got thrust vectoring. EF is light weight, Raptor's 35,000+lbs thrust engines with super cruise can make up for it's weight. Other than that, the Raptor is designed to dominate the skies for many decades to come and it will also go through upgrades. So, hands-down, Raptor all the way.

[blablubb12345]

Both are close to even in their manouverability and in a dogfight it's for sure not "Raptor all the way".

[1927henritta]

war will tell!!!

[em745aa]

-"The EF's got forward canards, the Raptor's got thrust vectoring"

Umm... last I checked, the F-22's also got those big-ass stabs at the rear. Or maybe I was just seeing things? ;)

[jomparinsqui]

Remember Vietnam when all the american people thought the same about the F-4

[ArmyBoy015]

yeah exactly, the eurofighter is more of a multi role fighter attacker and bomber, the raptor is an air superiority craft, in unison these two aircraft would be great, eurofighter to help the troops on the ground, and the raptor to clear the skies

[absolutemajid]

Black out/red out??

[LordNelson87]

yay! war is fun! let's dance!

[putabachelet]

is gonna be very fucking hard for the SU-35 be on the 6 of the typhon and be shut down brittish friends, pilots, wake the fuck up, the medieval era has pass already.

[rlilewis]

yeah except russia would have to take on all of NATO. good luck.

P.S wake up communism fails.. sorry that tens of millions of your people had to be purged by stalin before you figured it out. So take your commie shit and cram it up your ass.

[CINNDIRELLA]

Right, noting comes close, everything is way beyond.

[NotnaRed]

RAF = Rote Armee Fraktion?

[fly4fun123]

lol? RAF= royal air force

[msc2002]

lol that looks good fun!

[fmoa]

well actually eurofighter doesnt come close to f-22,su-30MKI n mig-35 in terms of maneuverability n agility,but su-30MKI n mig-35 doesnt come close to the eurofighter n f-22radar range,radar jamming system n BVR(BeyondVisualRange)combat capability..oh su-37 was cancelled n its not going to be mass produce..so no need to mention it here for all those su-37 luving people out there..

[MrMoorkey]

Have you flown any of these aircraft?

[fly4fun123]

Actually yes it does, the euro fighter is designed to be the most unstable plane to give it extreme moves, it has a series of super computers to stop it losing control, as simple as that

[1968patrick]

the only thing to match the typhoon is the f22,nothing else fact,definately no cheap made russian planes fact

[AerospaceEngineer90]

all of that is true until you reach supersonic, at supersonic the debate is between F-22 and Typhoon in terms of maneuverability (maneuverability and agility are not the same thing) EJ200 wasn't worked on enough but was rushed out due the the stupidly long delays, 3DTVC and other bells and whistles left off, no doubt that with further upgrades (EJ230 or on the off chance that EJ270 makes it to the production line[I'm skeptical about giving typhoon nearly 55,000lbf of thrust]) give it 15 years.

[pureintellectual]

somehow that music goes great w/ this vid

[quickdraw250]

full video is the best, but this one is good as a music video, i mean not to be a pooner but thats just my opinion

[milo60000]

i love it! this is one of the best videos i've seen on youtube! yes! great! yeah...!

[pureintellectual]

it might just be the song

[vatrap]

goog !!! lol

[zucoy21z89]

Aye lad, thee cant wait t join RAF! A sees thee later, me old cocker!!haha!!

[texasfathead]

The JAS 39C Gripen has better performers than the ef typhoon, FYI.

[zucoy21z89]

Are you sure about that? The first Typhoons had Tornado engines, its new ones are more powerful. The Gripen only has one engine.

[texasfathead]

I think the typhoon is much more capable and able to do many more missions than the JAS 39C Gripen but close air to air the Gripen got the advantage.

[milo60000]

What ever, texasfathead! how bout commenting on this great video itself. we don't care if u think the gripen is better than the typhoon

[texasfathead]

I think the typhoon is much more capable and able to do many more missions than the JAS 39C Gripen but close air to air the Gripen got the advantage.

[chinsup]

I love the Gripen i dont see its advantage in close air combat acceleration and deceleration plays an important part in close air combat we saw that in many conflicts

[sisutrucks]

i think the new super gripen will be good. hope we by it. the f35 is not any good for norwegian needs.

[weedymacweedweed]

i have to agree. someone said that F-35 is just a stealthy buccaneer. It migh be good strike fighter, but as far as air combat goes no so. but you norvegians are in good position. you have strong air forces on your side, we finns are alone.

[Thedreamshaperabc]

Join nato :)

[weedymacweedweed]

You go ahead and make me the Dictator of Finland and first thing i would do is to sign nato application and start a modernisation plan for the defense force(25B € might be sufficient). Unfortunately we had social democrats in government for so many decades that only 2 years of conservative rule cant fix everything. the defense force is getting a bit more money starting 2012 but communists(meaning socdems, lefts and greens) are against it so we have to see how the vote goes.

[2kbyeprange2]

Haha.That was just a quick comment and not my real writin. Its not as if im in a job interview. Are you in the RAF?

[2kbyeprange2]

I cant w8 till i in RAf flyin these

[AgCCannonFodder]

Well don't waste your time on here, go back to school and learn to write properly. Otherwise you wont get in :)

JK

[milo60000]

lol

[milo60000]

yeah