I wonder if they found a burned out gouge in the chimney top? If so it may be down to a slight prime of dirty water up the chimney, it would have flashed over with the high voltage overhead.
@talktalkmodem As I work down at Liverpool Street Station on the tracks I can confirm she is leaving from platform 5. She also blew the overheads again at Maryland (just outside Stratford) which tripped the TPWS on the loco, and then hit the buffers at norwich.
SHOOT! For a second you could only see a flash then sparks all down the boiler. As a kid I always thought Steam locos couldn't go under wires because of this.
personally i dont think this should have been allowed to happen. im all for steam locos, electric whatever but not only that is a hazard. what if that brought the line down? awesome video though and lucky catch! 5*
It shouldn't happen. I have a copy of a 1954 guide to the Woodhead Route for BR drivers advising them never to let their locos' chimneys rest under OHLE insulators. Soot deposits are a no-no. I'm sure the driver concerned was ware of this, but the pots between the catenary and gantries was probably duff. Don't blame the steam loco nor electrification, the latter I'd love to see loads more of:-))) Steam & Electric traction can co-exist fine.
@Isochest get over it happend its 2010 not 1954 the guid lines have proberley changed by now and so what if a few modern trash don't work they would only break down further down the line and H&S are just fun killers I mean come on they think everything is a hazard everyone lives on the dangerous side of life every day any time of the day or night any thing could happen any way its fun to live dangerousley as far as I'm concerned H&S can go to hell
It doesn't bother me apart from as you say, H&S dysfunctionality. The rules in 1954 would have been based on common sense not technically illiterate lawyer speak as today. All life is risky. And how safe is rail compared to road. No comparison. Game over on that one for the roads lobby and on many other counts , too!
I believe that as a result of this incident steam traction is now restricted to Platforms 1-10 at Liverpool Street - ie the ones under the Victorian trainshed rather than the office block. Love the way the steamer carriers on merrily out of the station seemingly unaware it has just stuffed the job up for everyone else!! lol
I've always wondered why this doesn't happen all the time with steam under overhead lines - now at least I know it does occasionally happen! Nice rare footage, thanks!
Very predictable, but not everyday you get an old girl like that under the raft at liverpool street, in the days of steam alot of locos had a diagonal stripe on the cabside warning crews that it was banned from working under OHL routes , nice video though,
ROFL! Who in their right mind would knowingly put a steamer through a station with such a low ceiling! I mean gees anyone with sense should know what happens when you blast a jet of steam directly onto electrical stuff -_-
Wish I could've seen that happen in person though ^^
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1madaboutguitar 2 weeks ago
Great video. Bet the smell was something else afterwards as well!!
erdblues 9 months ago
I wonder if they found a burned out gouge in the chimney top? If so it may be down to a slight prime of dirty water up the chimney, it would have flashed over with the high voltage overhead.
ThePlasticNev 1 year ago
i lke it ...steve
stestepney 1 year ago
Ok, that spooked me :P
I was staring at the title thinking, 'wtf does that mean' next thing it happens, lol
TheBlueE2 1 year ago
its just steam's way of saying "thanks for replacing us, now suffer the consiquence"
trainlover658 1 year ago
Steam train is all like "see ya later suckaz!"
mackat4ck 1 year ago
that must of blown the fuses at liverpool street
talktalkmodem 1 year ago
oh sorry m8 lol i forgot lol
talktalkmodem 1 year ago
plat form 7 is not underground that was platform 16
talktalkmodem 1 year ago
@talktalkmodem The ends of the platorms are undergound 1-10, you can see the open part as the camera pans back at the end of the clip
SANSPAREIL1977 1 year ago
@talktalkmodem As I work down at Liverpool Street Station on the tracks I can confirm she is leaving from platform 5. She also blew the overheads again at Maryland (just outside Stratford) which tripped the TPWS on the loco, and then hit the buffers at norwich.
jamienwr 8 months ago
What caused the flash-over? Was the wire sagging at a particular place or was it somehow due to the locomotive's exhaust?
61264 was the only LNER loco to end up at Barry. It was also known to have had firebox issues.
I understand these problem areas have been replaced.
Nothing to do with this incident of course, but it shows what the owners have had to do to keep this beast on the rails.
NJPurling 1 year ago
I like the way how smoke/steam hangs about afterwards
TheSteamdriver 2 years ago
any way its not the locos crew fault its the signalmans because they are the ones that control the points the train just fellow the rails
TheSteamdriver 2 years ago
SHOOT! For a second you could only see a flash then sparks all down the boiler. As a kid I always thought Steam locos couldn't go under wires because of this.
Mikal2475 2 years ago
Steam & electric get on fine:-))))
Isochest 2 years ago
never know the EMU might have said some thing bad so the steam engine tourt it some manors
ShaurntheSheep 2 years ago
only one word for that......woops
dankerthanclanker 2 years ago
I bet the driver of the 317 got a right eyeful of that one!
JJ37405 2 years ago
haha that will teach ure modern crap
trainkid1 3 years ago
yes but stop swearing it is so crude
regentv980 3 years ago
i bet you would've if you were there
jules46443 3 years ago 2
personally i dont think this should have been allowed to happen. im all for steam locos, electric whatever but not only that is a hazard. what if that brought the line down? awesome video though and lucky catch! 5*
Sephy69 3 years ago
It shouldn't happen. I have a copy of a 1954 guide to the Woodhead Route for BR drivers advising them never to let their locos' chimneys rest under OHLE insulators. Soot deposits are a no-no. I'm sure the driver concerned was ware of this, but the pots between the catenary and gantries was probably duff. Don't blame the steam loco nor electrification, the latter I'd love to see loads more of:-))) Steam & Electric traction can co-exist fine.
Isochest 3 years ago 2
Was there a danger that someone on the loco could have been electrocuted?
back2frinky 3 years ago
Not at all. The problem was soot on the pots.
Isochest 2 years ago
@back2frinky No. The train is grounded so the current travels to the ground.
mackat4ck 1 year ago
@Isochest get over it happend its 2010 not 1954 the guid lines have proberley changed by now and so what if a few modern trash don't work they would only break down further down the line and H&S are just fun killers I mean come on they think everything is a hazard everyone lives on the dangerous side of life every day any time of the day or night any thing could happen any way its fun to live dangerousley as far as I'm concerned H&S can go to hell
TheSteamdriver 2 years ago
It doesn't bother me apart from as you say, H&S dysfunctionality. The rules in 1954 would have been based on common sense not technically illiterate lawyer speak as today. All life is risky. And how safe is rail compared to road. No comparison. Game over on that one for the roads lobby and on many other counts , too!
Isochest 2 years ago
chances are that the insulator that flashed over had a small crack, probably been fizzing for weeks, the steamer only speeded up the inevitable
dasy2k1 3 years ago 2
Who cares ? It's Great !!!!
Send a few more through there i say . Bring those wires down & put a halt to those damn Pendo's everywhere .
mukkaspec 3 years ago 2
I believe that as a result of this incident steam traction is now restricted to Platforms 1-10 at Liverpool Street - ie the ones under the Victorian trainshed rather than the office block. Love the way the steamer carriers on merrily out of the station seemingly unaware it has just stuffed the job up for everyone else!! lol
amosbriz 3 years ago 3
This was about platform 7 I think?
SANSPAREIL1977 2 years ago
I've always wondered why this doesn't happen all the time with steam under overhead lines - now at least I know it does occasionally happen! Nice rare footage, thanks!
SiriusHardware 3 years ago 2
Open access...beautiful...
edwardianeccentric 3 years ago 2
Very predictable, but not everyday you get an old girl like that under the raft at liverpool street, in the days of steam alot of locos had a diagonal stripe on the cabside warning crews that it was banned from working under OHL routes , nice video though,
richa8685 3 years ago
Like the 8fs?
RocksNotDead101 2 years ago
ROFL! Who in their right mind would knowingly put a steamer through a station with such a low ceiling! I mean gees anyone with sense should know what happens when you blast a jet of steam directly onto electrical stuff -_-
Wish I could've seen that happen in person though ^^
GhostLiger 4 years ago
the insulator must have been duff.
Isochest 3 years ago