vegan food is not deficient...however since vegans do not usualy consume enough fats most of those nutrients are not fully assimilated by the body and this is the reason why most look like they are in the early stages of Aids on their faces ..yes they can be strong and fit but since they loose (especialy males) a small layer of tissue fat ..their faces look unnaturaly skinny similar to the faces of people who are really sick and people observing them can notice it and asociate with malnutrition
i´m vegan and i feel great, have less anxiety, sleep better. You can live on meats alone...hell, you can live on Big Macs alone, but the quality of your health will be very defficient. You people say that you felt terrible on a raw diet, I think you went about it the wrong way. Besides you can be as raw as you want. I'm only about 50% raw. Just adding alll this raw food has been a major improvement in my health. If you eat some meat and have your veggies raw, you are helping your health big time
Look, at this point hopefully you look into the eyes of this madman, hear his words, and use your intuition to conclude he is full of shit. Yes, raw food vegan diet is totally deficient. Its a denial of the reality that is our fossil record. His use of what meat is says it all - one extreme to the next . Strangely we find that organic, grass-fed beef to be superior to a Whopper and providing superior essential nutrients than raw veggies (granted, you should eat your veggies).
@DRu9 HA! lol, please enlighten me: what essential nutrients are there in animal products? Since when are mercury, hormones, saturated fats and cholesterol nutrients?
They arent. When you drop the junk and fill up on the nutritious stuff, like fruit (fruit is the most nutritionally dense food for human beings) you realise this. You have been bullshitted big time.
@thatfruitarianchick You really don't need enlightening in order to grasp the essential nutrients in meat (assume grass fed, organic). You think I'm stupid. You're going to presume all meat has mercury, then ask me that dumb question? Anyway I'll wait while you go show me the people on this earth, traditional peoples not mad Americans, who ate only fruit. I'll wait.
perfect way to put it!! onother common thought is that vegans never eat tasty food, they dont eat "good" food..."live a little and eat some meat/ice cream/bread" is the idea. SAD indeed. and as for b 12, i read that if your intestinal track is very healthy and you probiotic balance is correct your body generates its own b12 in the large intestine that is then absorbed through the walls into the blood. but thats just one thing i read, its so confusing!
OK ALL SCEPTICS! argue with experience! please I'd love to see yall bash the raw vegan diet when there's people that experienced! which would be the best teacher in this case great improvements in health n happiness after going raw vegan for some time EXPLAIN that no yall can't cuz it can't be done don't take my word for it look up dan the man the liferegenrator,david wolfe,fastinggurl... researched all this shit by checking out experienced people in all of this how can yall still dispute this!?
@holylok Many of us tried raw veganism and experienced a massive tanking in health. Personally, I fare better on mcdonalds than I do on a raw vegan diet, and I gave it a month or two, should have been enough for those ever worsening "detox" symptoms to go away, but they just kept getting worse. If the raw vegan diet makes you feel good, go for it, but don't criticize those (or try to change) who chose other diets for whatever reason it may be.
@frodosauce the raw vegan diet is hard to stay on not only cus of will power but 4 many other reason's too don't go on it unless you get educated about it first n slowly transition into that paticular kind of raw vegan diet if that kind dosen't work than move on to another but just don't give up cus some fanatic might of told you to only eat dates for the rest of your life! u know.... follow the hippocrates diet I haven't done it but from what I hear it sound pretty good
@frodosauce thats a good point and all-dont push your diet on others-amen to that, but im curious, what in the world were you trying to eat on your raw food diet??? i know there is a right way and a terribly wrong way to do ANY diet. and i know far too many people fail on the raw diet because they ate the wrong things raw and then totally discarded this diet as just another stupid fad diet put together by idiots. then go right back to their old toxic processed foods.
@benjorgensen1 I ate the "correct" raw foods diet of fruits and vegetables, a bit of a pointless question as I'm sure most people around these videos are aware the latest trend is low fat.
@deolm I don't know if your juicing yet but that makes a tremendous difference also. My neighbor make all nat smoothies in am and veggie juice for lunch.
I think this is oversimplifying the issue of a deficient diet. I hate when the raw food community looks at: it's either raw (and divine) or cooked (toxic and overly fattening). Steamed kale and whoppers -- different things. ("Just eat the kale raw!" Okay, that tastes good and digests well...) C'mon people.
@ocergnairb That's a good point mate. I have just tried starting to eat as raw as possible (mainly for my type 1 diabetes [I have decreased my insulin need by 60%-80%] but also for increased energy levels, better eyesight, etc) but I also eat cooked food too. It's not like my raw food intake is completely voided from eating some cooked food!
This guy is an idiot, assuming that because someone questions his lifestyle they must not eat balanced. Human beings are omnivores but our problem is moderation. If everyone just ate a balanced diet with adequate proportions there would be no gluttonous meat eaters or gaunt vegans. This guys "holier than thou" attitude is just off-putting.
Tim is awesome and very inspirational. This society lacks a lot of common sense and a LOT of people who eat fast food are deficient in B12...along with every other vitamin pretty much.
If people eat a cow or a goat to get their proteins, then how do these animals get their body protein from just eating green grass? This equation doesn't balance using this kind of logic! Domesticated animals most useful to humans for thousands of years like elephants, horses and bulls used for doing work on the farm or drawing a carriage loaded with people eat only raw vegan food.
@MoMagha You try eating grass and see what happens. Those are different mammals than humans so they their body breaks down food much differently. Those animals have different enzymes and bacteria to help break down the food. Those animals also spend most of their life eating because those foods are not as calorie dense or protein dense are meats. So its seems your logic is wrong.
@TheGreatFoxKing Well using the same logic, humans simply don't have the enzymes to digest raw meat like Foxes. Try surviving on raw meat alone (or even cooked meat) and see how long you can go. If you live in tropics and eat only meat, your body will go into toxic shock within days due putrefying gut. Humans evolved in the tropics eating fruits, veges and nuts. Meat was occasionally used during droughts and when other plant food was not available. Eating meat is not optimal to health
@MoMagha actually you can live on meat alone, or a meat with minimal vegetables diet, like hundred of people do in the northern parts of the world were there are very very little greens. Only Protein and fat are need to live. the body can make its own glucose. We do have the enzymes to digest meat like other mammals. Humans carry out that experiment on a daily basis. You can have meat in your diet for good health. Again you have no logic and there is no point in carrying this on.
Another reason to avoid the Vegan Diet is EFA deficiency, primarily DHA/EPA. Plant based Omega3 efa, known as Alpha Linolenic acid has to be converted for your body to use as DHA/EPA, this conversion rate in humans is very low, usually at a rate of 1-4%. Jesus, the saviour of the world ate fish, it should be ok for everyone else.
If you want to bring the Bible into this, what did Adam and Eve eat in the Garden of Eden? Was this not "paradise", implying that it was perfect? Can't recall them eating cows or pigs or chickens...hmm.
God gave us dominion over animals. He also gave us dominion over our children. Should we eat them too? And as for Jesus, yes he ate fish. But that's just one religion...
Look at Buddhism. Stop criticizing alternative diets, when our standard is shit. Heart disease ISN'T natural.
@MichaelBallack91 In general I do not see the Vegancult diet as being practical for most people. Maybe there are a small percentage who can bear eating this untasteful, depressing, inadequate diet........maybe???? Vegancultism is a pain in the ass because of the limited choices you have when you want to eat out. I will not go over the shortcomings nutritionally, I am sure you have heard them before, these are very valid problems in my eyes. What a crummy, boring way to eat.
It doesn't seem like that was his intention in the first place. He's answered those questions in other videos. Here, he was simply showing the stupidity it takes for a S.A.D. person to be asking that question.
If people concentrated their efforts on banning pesticides and herbicides in Fruits and vegetables, Banning heavy metals chlorine and flouride in our water supply. Banning Mercury fillings, drugs like Accutane that are complete poisons, readressed the balance between doctors just handing out drugs and actually healing the human body. Rallying against Codex Ailmentarius and hormones in our meat and dairy industry. Thats the real issue, not who's eating meat and who isnt,
very well said, your comment here is Excellent and very perceptive. Most people in America are totally clueless about real Health
The things you just mentioned are SO obvious , that its astounding how many people miss them.
Codex Alimentarius especially is horrible, and whats really pathetic is that 90 % of the American population has NO idea what it is or even heard of it, Nor do they have any interest in it
@LifeRegenRevolution The way i see it is this, the further we move from nature the worse off we'll be. It's medically proven that causcasians need around 20 minutes of sunlight per day to get enough vitamin D, Black people need up to 2 hours to produce the same amount, This is all based on our history, white people lived in much colder climates therefore needed to have a very powerful vitamin D conversion system to get what we needed from the small amount of sunlight we were exposed too.
@LifeRegenRevolution My theory is people from the UK will have a slightly better vitamin D conversion system than their american counterparts, due to the fact they've lived in a colder environment all our lives. Siberians will have an even better conversion system than the english and so on.. The body will regulate itself in the environent it finds itself in. I personally wouldnt supplement high dose vitamin D because it's fat soluble and can cause toxicity, Hypercalcemia and other things.
@LifeRegenRevolution I love your videos Dan because you get to the heart of the matter, I believe your one of the pioneers I was refering too. If all the practitioners and people united against the real problems than we'd all be in a far better position. Take care my friend i wish you all the best.
another douche lord read one book turned evangelical, its raw legion time folks, the jewish zombie has run his corse, were on to worshipping brocalli sprouts and wearing shirts two sizes to big.
i dont like the assumption Tim that all meateaters eat hamburgers, it's like saying all vegans are anorexic,, it's just not true. Look at Joseph rubin for an example of a healthy person that eats meat. You can eat meat, eggs, veggies fruit and nuts and be healthy, Plus human beings are omnivours, we have canine teeth. I hate how vegans and some meateaters can be so ignorant to the other side, the truth is a comprimise between meat and vegan. Dairy is horrendous for you, but good meat isnt.
@LifeRegenRevolution i actually agree with you bizarrely, i do believe a vegan diet is the healthiest. It is the only diet (raw food) that can bring people back from some of the worst conditions known to man. The leading people in the field are the Raw food practioners. But there are some great detox experts that claim grass fed meat has the perfect ratio of fats to heal the cell. The bilayer of the cell is very important to function needing a 4 to 1 ratio, which is found in grass fed meat
@monkeygigglesful i agree to some extent, but i think fruits veggies and meat is perfectly acceptable, just look at the paleo diet for a closer representation of what the cavemen ate.
how do you know cavemen were more fit than any of us? and if they were, maybe it was because they all had to be genetically fit (natural ahtletes) to survive and the ones that werent died.
u are a fucking stupid ass ignorant person god i hope to meet u one day to beat your protein deficient ass .ajlbsiohbqayisdgbibgcdyubaociybvayhbvahidbvohabdpoiabvdohabvohjvaoyuvoyhvcouhavcohuavichvaouhcvwoudvohuwvdouhqvdiuqvdouwvedohuvweodhubvwqohdvoldviqw digqvdouqvoud
i wish youd explain how youre getting b-12 though, rather than raising a question and not answering it. if you really want to go on a rampage and convert people, you should consider bulking up. you are indeed muscular, and the fact that a vegetarian has not lost his muscle mass clearly indicates that an animal protein deficiency does not have to lead to muscle depletion, but body builders arent going to take you seriously and theyre still going to consume whey.
Not everyone whose saying this eats mcdonald's, that's an ignorant statement, and no, food science is not useless, but evidence is worth much more than theory. Science is constantly changing, what is referred to as fact by the scientific community one day might be laughed at the next day, and vice versa. Science is constantly evolving, go on Wikipedia and look up natural hygiene, check the criticism and you'll see "excluding milk from your diet is asking for osteoporosis." LOL
Go to aggressive health cavemen....you can get a balanced nutritional diet from raw foods...raw organic, juicing and smoothies mixed with a whole host of super foods will give you optimal health! Mike Nash Legend!
Most of the B12 in supplement form comes from LA and NYC sewage sludge. Well- I guess we should all play is safe and be sure to take our B12 tablets....
go Research Dr. Fred Bisci, hes 75 yrs old, been a Raw Vegan for Over 35 yrs. and hes in Excellent Health and extremely athletic and vigorous and suffers No diseases or ailments of any kind.
Man is Not a Meat Eater by way of Anatomy, Physiology or Biology
you say " Tim makes wild claims and gives no proof "
Actually you couldnt be More wrong ! His Life experience is his Proof , and everything he is saying is Verified by THOUSANDS of other people who experienced the same things as he did !
Let your ' proof ' be your own individual experience and test this Diet on your own body for yourself and Measure the results
Thats the ONLY real way you'll know for sure anyway
go buy that vitamine b12, it is not availeble in plantfood nowedays. B12 that is found in plantbased food is not working in the human body or it a fake what is really hard to see. This fake one disturbs the absorbtion of b12. Before machanic farming and poor quiality of soil there was b12 on plants. But of the bad soil and the hygenic cleening of products before they come in the store is removing b12 if it was left on with this poor soil condition. A lot of vegans thit it before little sucseed
chollera. balrey grass, sea weet enz al this so named sources of b12 tuned out to be fake b12. a lot of the time it wil take 30/50 years to devolop a b12 dificenty.
it might I said, not it will. You can develop one in 10 years to, that depends on how much b12 is stored in youre boy. Andyou should not take it so litghtley. When you notice it, it is often to late and there will be dammage that will never recover. Or you will die that is a possibilty to. It will damage nurves caused by demyelination and irreversible nerve cell death. Memoryloss, psychoses, Alzheimer's dementia, subacute combined degeneration of spinal cord. spontanials abortion(woman)
Actually the group that is most deficient in B12 are Pregnant meat eating women . Sure Vegans can get deficient, but so can every one else regardless of ones Diet.
Eating wild unwashed garden fruits and vegs also gives us b12
In the past communitys who lived on a plant based diet did get their b12 fro earth on vegs and some fruits. But now days in the store everything is mechanich produced and the veggies and fruit are hygenic cleaned. The soil is not from good quiality annymore and don´t provides enough b12 annymore because we have polute the planet and so the quality of the earth. You don´t know whta kind of state youre soil has and of it provides enough b12...nnot everbody has home grown veggies and the veggies
If a Vegan has any doubts about their b12 then all they have to do is take a supplement and Not worry about it.
Its really not a big deal. Lets just be honest, 80% of the USA population, regardless of what diet they are on, are VERY deficient in Lots of Nutrients
they sell in a store don´t provide you b12, biologich or not. I think it is dangerous to tell people they don´t need pills now days.Yes they do because the world is that destroyd she can not provide true soil b12 on the places they grow fruit and veggs. The eath is done. So the natural option is not a option annymore because of our actions and we shoud take procoision and pop b12 pills. This is topic alot of acedemic research is done and raw vegans are not safe
This is topic alot of acedemic research is done and raw vegans are not safe just as normal vegans without taking b12 pills
regarding b12 deficeinty among meat eaters, what diet you have you should eat a lot of healthy food, The average amrican diet is not healthy and don´t provides enough vitamines enz and a lot of americans are difeceint because of that. Pregnant woman should have more care about what they eat because babys take the b12 of the mother and make a storage in their own
body for about a year. Vegan or not should eat properly and healthy. Vegans and vegetariens are healthier because they are giving a lot of time on their eating habbits. If people who eat meat should eat more veggies and fruits they would be healthy to. That higly prossesd food is not food, it gives youre body nothing. If you are vegan you gould eat unhealthy to that doesn´t mather. Here in holland and sweden are the people really healthy (sweden more) because fo their eating habbits.
hart desease, stroke, hartattack, new born baby's with hart desease if mother has a b12 defeicency enz most of this deseases are irreverseble and the damage that is been coused stays. Just like Alzheiemer or memory loss and irreverseble nerves cell death. I think you placed a pretty stupid comment and you are bringing youre self and if you have youre loved ones like kids in danger. This is not a game. I t is not over with a wonder pill and when you are discovering you have it it is often to late
It's unfortunate that he chooses to dance around the issue rather than answer it. Most videos answering these criticisms from him don't in fact answer anything at all. I clicked on the link to his videos expecting good, solid evidence and was let down.
Well I think his response implies that the raw food lifestyle is efficient. I don't recall him dancing around the issue, rather saying a question like that (is a raw diet deficient) is surprising coming from those who do not even have 1/3 of their daily intake of vital nutrients.
30 grams would be sufficient if you sat on your arse all day and did nothing. For a comepetitive athlete or even someone who plays sports for fun, more protien is required. Not as much as most bodybuilders seem to believe, but 30 grams won't cut it.
You are wrong. There are not just "Raw Foodies" and "Junk Foodies".. There are "Natural Foodies" also, like myself. I am not all raw (only about 60% raw), but I eat all natural whole foods and yes I eat meat. I eat a very balanced diet and I feel great! You NEED VitB12 (and all the other B vitamins) or you will be tired and yes Deficient! Just because you're alive doesn't mean all is well. You should be very careful telling people they don't need meat and vitamin B12 - It is very irresponsible.
that's not really convincing at all dude. As a meat-eater, I grew up with lifelong vegans.
It's all about the adjustment.
People only get weak 'cause it's a stage of transition. It's quite irresponsible to say "everyone needs meat" or buy into dogma when things are prone to change, even if at one's will.
I'm mainly saying that there are not just the 2 kinds of people (raw vegan and junkies), but many people in between. I don't want to start a debate about what's wrong or right.. Actually I think completely raw is great! Im more & more raw these days. Raw plant-foods should be the majority of a diet. I think people with different goals need different foods. I bodybuild and want as natural diet as possible, so my needs r different to the guy in the video whos a runner (less muscle mass). Peace :)
Most of a diet should be raw vegan.. but for someone like myself, it's extremely hard to get enough protien to build muscle from only vegetarian sources. For example, I need 300g of protien per day to build muscle on top of my current lean mass. From broccoli (which is high in protein for a vegetable) I would need 10kg per day to get my protein. Even eating nuts and other high protien foods, it's very hard without meat.
So... There ARE circumstances we need meat. Also, you need Vitamin B12!!
True...but you don't need to be bodybuilding in order to be healthy and living well. Thus, that circumstance would not be considered a necessity for meat as the circumstance itself is not neccesity, but chosen.
So answer me this... Name 1 Plant source with Vitamin B12. Spirulina? Nope, the B12 is not bio-available. There are no plants with Vitamin B12, and it is essential to your body, so if you can explain how you survive with no B12 then I will be impressed, otherwise don't just go preaching we don't need meat with no scientific knowledge or references.
Actually the # 1 deficient person whos deficient in b12 is Meat eating pregnant women
b12 is manufactured in the Intenstines, I get my B12 from a clean healthy digestive system, and from eating Unwashed wild greens in the spring and summer from my Garden Vegs and Fruits
For most vegans, B12 is simply not an issue the Deficiency is just as prevelant in Meat Eaters as in any other group.
Have you been tested to see if your B12 Deficient? I have researched this subject & even some Vegan website are saying we can't get B12 from Vegetables or Fruits etc..
That's correct.. There are a very few plant foods that 'have' Vitamin B12 (Spirilina?), but it IS NOT Bio-Available so you cant use it. Eggs are a good source of if.. just 2-3 eggs will give you heaps of B12, Omega 3s and countless other nutrients. I eat them raw too.
National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, Bethesda, MD 20892
Craving is defined as "a consuming desire or yearning" (1 ). Cravings for foods are extremely common, with 97% of women and 68% of men reporting episodes of food cravings (2 ).
Ernie you mention to validate the Raw diet we need 'science' to approve it 1st. Well my question to you is very simple,
'science' according to who ? I dont, nor do Many other Americans consider such foolish stupid treatments as chemotherapy truly 'science' yet all the buffoons who call themselves 'scientists' all approve of it
One Mans 'scientist' is another mans bought and paid for commercial Puppet, Modern 'science' is Often Not about Truth, its about MONEY
Much of the literature on food cravings has been devoted to carbohydrate cravings and to the connection between food and mood. A frequently proposed theory is that many individuals ingest carbohydrates in an effort to elevate mood (3 ). This theory postulates that, in essence, food is being used as a form of self-medication to ameliorate unpleasant affective states. This occurs through increases in the brain neurotransmitter serotonin, which is known to have a positive impact on mood.
I think the sugar addiction VEGANS and RAWS have shows up in these videos. The authors "appear" very lively and so "healthy". In fact, they are on a "sugar high". Get them some hour later and they will be on a downer and will need more sugar to feed their addiction.
go Research a 52 yr old Man in OR named IGOR BOUTENKO, he fully healed himself of Numerous health conditions, and is so vibrant , energetic and Strong, that he can do 1,000 consecutive push ups !
Hes been a Raw Vegan for 15 yrs , and eats mostly Organic Raw Greens
As an analogy, any intelligent rational Objective human being can reason that its Obvious that Chemotherapy is Dangerous and Disasterous for Cancer treatment.
Yet amazingly enough the conventional 'scientific' sources and the AMA fully support it, even though the graveyards are full of this barbaric treatments victims.
No sane intelligent Person would ever undergo such an Asinine illogical method of treatment for Cancer or any other disease. Common sense trumps so called "science"
I think you two have said enough. I suggest you just send texts to each other and let us know the outcome.
Every sensible person knows eating RAW is basically silly. As humans, we developed cooking to make our food a lot more appetizing. It's main purpose is to destroy toxins and bacteria ever present in raw vegetation.
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As a proponent of the raw vegan diet, one who is educated on this subject, the raw vegan diet is deficient in b12.
There are cobalamins in some plant based foods, but they are not active in the human body. There is also human active cobalamin in dulse, but its absorption is blocked by certain analogues in dulse, so it is not helping you. It is a neutral food, as far as b12 is concerned. And the yeast that people take for b12...as I understand it, the yeast is fortified with 'non-raw' b12.
Raw vegan diet, done right, is still better than almost any other configuration. Most health-consciounce omnivores with supposedly balanced diets, are usually worse off physically than raw vegans. They are certainly (on average) more overweight and closer to diabetes.
Raw vegan diet + Jarrows B Right b complex supplement (or another b vitamin supplement that contians methylcobalamin instead of cyanocobalamin or hydroxocobalamin as b12)is the healthiest way to eat I can think of.
Something very interesting regarding testing serum b12: inactive b12 (such as the b12 in plant-based foods) shows up in the blood, making the number higher. This explains false 'normal' readings in those who are deficient, including raw vegans who don't supplement b12.
From CoolRunning, Snowstorm Classics 5K Springfield, MA, December 13, 2008 Greater Springfield Harriers Snowstorm Classics 5K 5K Overall Finish List December 13, 2008 1 Brian Nelson28 1 M 0-99 16:57.0 2 Tim VanordenCMS40 2 M 0-99 17:16.0
If you accept Tim is a PROFESSIONAL FRAUD, this explains everything. Tim says in one of his videos he does not pay income tax. How does he make a living? Is he on welfare ?
Results get published in local newspapers. So some patriot must have some results somewhere, sometime.
Just to show other VEGAN RAW nuts what is necessary, try-
Otherwise, NOBODY is at all interested in your rhetoric.
Recent studies have shown that eating saturated fats present no greater hazards to health than do excess eating of carbohydrates. You must realize that excess carbohydrates are converted to fatty acids by the liver to be stored by the body as fat.
When a piece of ruptured plaque enters the blood it can block narrow vessels upstream and cause a heart attack or stroke. Recently, the tendency of blood to clot has come into focus as a major cause of heart attacks. People whose blood clots too readily are at very high risk. You may recall that one of the medical names for a heart attack is coronary thrombosis. A thrombus is a clot, and coronary thrombosis refers to the formation of a large clot in one of the arteries that feed the heart
People who have elevated levels of certain clotting precursors or depressed levels of clotting inhibitors in their blood are at high risk of dying from heart attacks. This risk probably far exceeds that caused by high LDL or low HDL. Some of the blood factors that enhance clotting include fibrinogen and factor VII. Another factor, lipoprotein(a), inhibits the destruction of small thrombi before they become large enough to cause a heart attack.
All of these factors have been found to increase in people with chronically high blood sugars. Platelets, or thrombocytes, are particles in the blood that play major roles in the blocking of arteries and the formation of clots. These have been shown to clump together and stick to arterial walls much more aggressively in people with high blood sugars. What is exciting is that all of these factors, including sticky platelets, tend to normalize as long-term blood sugars improve.
I need fully documented evidence from somebody qualified in this field. If you are too tied to do this. then go eat a REAL meal. Till then,you don't deserve a reply !
As I said, where are the results of all of these events ?
If you want to be decieved by Tim and this RAW nonsense, so be it. Just don't try and push it onto any gullible people who may be tempted to take it on.
As I have stated before, I feel most RARES are addicted to sugar. This is very dangerous and will lead to diabetes.
Yes, I have seen some of his fake movies. He never mentions what time he does these great exploits in. Or any reference to a newspaper or any other athletic publication.
At aged 60, I use to climb tracks on MOUNTAINS in New South Wales and Lord Howe Island. I didn't need to go to a video on YouTube or such in an attempt to "glorify" my "achievements". Why does Tim do this ?
do some research on Dr. Doug Graham, he is a long time 25 yr. long Raw Vegan and a serious all around Athlete and runner in Excellent physical condition
Its not just Tim proving this diet is the best diet for Athletics
Don;t be too hard on poor old TIM. He makes a living- so he says out of this RAW nonsense he "expounds". People are gullible enough to PAY to listen to him lecture. I bet he is at home rubbing his hands together over a COOKED meat and two veg dinner.
TIM- there is a sucker born every minute. Make the best of it while you can.
you guys are amazing. so funny how you are trying to have it both ways. 1st all of you say tim is far too skin and frail looking, because of his Raw Diet
Now here you are saying he is probably at home eating cooked food meal with heavy calories
which is it dude ? you just sound like a jaded angry crank, the facts are not on your side , so get over it
You implied that we have the same frame of thought. Just because we both eat meat. Therefore accordig to your logic, 98% of the worlds population should have the same beliefs and thoughts as me.
You and he both have said that you think Tims Diet is severely deficient because he is too skinny.
and i have proved you both wrong, as a Professional full training runner, should he weigh 220 lbs at 5' 9 " ? is that your standard for health for a competitive serious Runner ?
dude you sound totally out of touch and ridiculous
Wait, you proved me wrong? where was I when this happened?
Oh and what's your fixation with weight? you seem to jump from 165 to 220lbs like it's no big deal. I already showed you what a real runner should look like. Tim is a nobody, I doubt he competes that much. The guy I showed you runs thousands of miles. This guy came 58th in a 10k run lmao.
i totally lmfao'd
truestyankeesfan 2 weeks ago
vegan food is not deficient...however since vegans do not usualy consume enough fats most of those nutrients are not fully assimilated by the body and this is the reason why most look like they are in the early stages of Aids on their faces ..yes they can be strong and fit but since they loose (especialy males) a small layer of tissue fat ..their faces look unnaturaly skinny similar to the faces of people who are really sick and people observing them can notice it and asociate with malnutrition
logika1972 3 weeks ago
i´m vegan and i feel great, have less anxiety, sleep better. You can live on meats alone...hell, you can live on Big Macs alone, but the quality of your health will be very defficient. You people say that you felt terrible on a raw diet, I think you went about it the wrong way. Besides you can be as raw as you want. I'm only about 50% raw. Just adding alll this raw food has been a major improvement in my health. If you eat some meat and have your veggies raw, you are helping your health big time
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I don't eat meat because I don't want uric acid and don't have the uricase enzyme to remove it.
royalblowno 4 months ago
Look, at this point hopefully you look into the eyes of this madman, hear his words, and use your intuition to conclude he is full of shit. Yes, raw food vegan diet is totally deficient. Its a denial of the reality that is our fossil record. His use of what meat is says it all - one extreme to the next . Strangely we find that organic, grass-fed beef to be superior to a Whopper and providing superior essential nutrients than raw veggies (granted, you should eat your veggies).
DRu9 4 months ago
@DRu9 HA! lol, please enlighten me: what essential nutrients are there in animal products? Since when are mercury, hormones, saturated fats and cholesterol nutrients?
They arent. When you drop the junk and fill up on the nutritious stuff, like fruit (fruit is the most nutritionally dense food for human beings) you realise this. You have been bullshitted big time.
thatfruitarianchick 1 month ago
@thatfruitarianchick You really don't need enlightening in order to grasp the essential nutrients in meat (assume grass fed, organic). You think I'm stupid. You're going to presume all meat has mercury, then ask me that dumb question? Anyway I'll wait while you go show me the people on this earth, traditional peoples not mad Americans, who ate only fruit. I'll wait.
DRu9 1 month ago
@DRu9
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Amiel912 5 months ago
let's run!!!!!
rawgirlrunner 5 months ago
perfect way to put it!! onother common thought is that vegans never eat tasty food, they dont eat "good" food..."live a little and eat some meat/ice cream/bread" is the idea. SAD indeed. and as for b 12, i read that if your intestinal track is very healthy and you probiotic balance is correct your body generates its own b12 in the large intestine that is then absorbed through the walls into the blood. but thats just one thing i read, its so confusing!
benjorgensen1 6 months ago
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Johnnybeak 7 months ago
I heard that you get b12 from the bacteria in dirt
iankennithwauer 6 months ago
This guy is a twig. His food is deficient.
Phothak 9 months ago
Always amazes me how irate people become about food. I mean people really get nasty!
It's probably because it's such a fundamental thing but still, when we have choices, you'd think that folks would be more relaxed.
herbal1971 1 year ago
OK ALL SCEPTICS! argue with experience! please I'd love to see yall bash the raw vegan diet when there's people that experienced! which would be the best teacher in this case great improvements in health n happiness after going raw vegan for some time EXPLAIN that no yall can't cuz it can't be done don't take my word for it look up dan the man the liferegenrator,david wolfe,fastinggurl... researched all this shit by checking out experienced people in all of this how can yall still dispute this!?
holylok 1 year ago
@holylok Many of us tried raw veganism and experienced a massive tanking in health. Personally, I fare better on mcdonalds than I do on a raw vegan diet, and I gave it a month or two, should have been enough for those ever worsening "detox" symptoms to go away, but they just kept getting worse. If the raw vegan diet makes you feel good, go for it, but don't criticize those (or try to change) who chose other diets for whatever reason it may be.
frodosauce 7 months ago
@frodosauce the raw vegan diet is hard to stay on not only cus of will power but 4 many other reason's too don't go on it unless you get educated about it first n slowly transition into that paticular kind of raw vegan diet if that kind dosen't work than move on to another but just don't give up cus some fanatic might of told you to only eat dates for the rest of your life! u know.... follow the hippocrates diet I haven't done it but from what I hear it sound pretty good
holylok 7 months ago
@frodosauce thats a good point and all-dont push your diet on others-amen to that, but im curious, what in the world were you trying to eat on your raw food diet??? i know there is a right way and a terribly wrong way to do ANY diet. and i know far too many people fail on the raw diet because they ate the wrong things raw and then totally discarded this diet as just another stupid fad diet put together by idiots. then go right back to their old toxic processed foods.
benjorgensen1 6 months ago
@benjorgensen1 I ate the "correct" raw foods diet of fruits and vegetables, a bit of a pointless question as I'm sure most people around these videos are aware the latest trend is low fat.
frodosauce 6 months ago
@deolm I don't know if your juicing yet but that makes a tremendous difference also. My neighbor make all nat smoothies in am and veggie juice for lunch.
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago
Nuts have a higher concentration of protien than most meat. Cashews 6g of pro per serving, walnuts 4g pro per serving
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone not true, A person who eats raw gets plenty of protien from nuts, goofy!
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago
Your analogy is extremely suspect. In any case, a raw vegan diet IS deficient in protien, period.
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@MrMZaccone In any case, a raw vegan diet IS deficient in protien, period."
Not really -- unless of course you intend on becoming a bodybuilder... you can get protien from nuts and soy
badpanda84 11 months ago
@badpanda84 Good luck eating raw soy...
frodosauce 7 months ago
Does eating raw make you an asshole, or are assholes just drawn to it?
dendennyden 1 year ago
I think this is oversimplifying the issue of a deficient diet. I hate when the raw food community looks at: it's either raw (and divine) or cooked (toxic and overly fattening). Steamed kale and whoppers -- different things. ("Just eat the kale raw!" Okay, that tastes good and digests well...) C'mon people.
ocergnairb 1 year ago 2
@ocergnairb That's a good point mate. I have just tried starting to eat as raw as possible (mainly for my type 1 diabetes [I have decreased my insulin need by 60%-80%] but also for increased energy levels, better eyesight, etc) but I also eat cooked food too. It's not like my raw food intake is completely voided from eating some cooked food!
deolm 1 year ago
This guy is an idiot, assuming that because someone questions his lifestyle they must not eat balanced. Human beings are omnivores but our problem is moderation. If everyone just ate a balanced diet with adequate proportions there would be no gluttonous meat eaters or gaunt vegans. This guys "holier than thou" attitude is just off-putting.
LEMONedOblaat 1 year ago
0:12 lol, are you kidding me, L.M.A.O.
jimmytube717 1 year ago
Tim is awesome and very inspirational. This society lacks a lot of common sense and a LOT of people who eat fast food are deficient in B12...along with every other vitamin pretty much.
healthfreak18 1 year ago
HA, I love this!
bg11215 1 year ago
If people eat a cow or a goat to get their proteins, then how do these animals get their body protein from just eating green grass? This equation doesn't balance using this kind of logic! Domesticated animals most useful to humans for thousands of years like elephants, horses and bulls used for doing work on the farm or drawing a carriage loaded with people eat only raw vegan food.
MoMagha 1 year ago
@MoMagha You try eating grass and see what happens. Those are different mammals than humans so they their body breaks down food much differently. Those animals have different enzymes and bacteria to help break down the food. Those animals also spend most of their life eating because those foods are not as calorie dense or protein dense are meats. So its seems your logic is wrong.
TheGreatFoxKing 7 months ago
@TheGreatFoxKing Well using the same logic, humans simply don't have the enzymes to digest raw meat like Foxes. Try surviving on raw meat alone (or even cooked meat) and see how long you can go. If you live in tropics and eat only meat, your body will go into toxic shock within days due putrefying gut. Humans evolved in the tropics eating fruits, veges and nuts. Meat was occasionally used during droughts and when other plant food was not available. Eating meat is not optimal to health
MoMagha 7 months ago
@MoMagha actually you can live on meat alone, or a meat with minimal vegetables diet, like hundred of people do in the northern parts of the world were there are very very little greens. Only Protein and fat are need to live. the body can make its own glucose. We do have the enzymes to digest meat like other mammals. Humans carry out that experiment on a daily basis. You can have meat in your diet for good health. Again you have no logic and there is no point in carrying this on.
TheGreatFoxKing 7 months ago
Another reason to avoid the Vegan Diet is EFA deficiency, primarily DHA/EPA. Plant based Omega3 efa, known as Alpha Linolenic acid has to be converted for your body to use as DHA/EPA, this conversion rate in humans is very low, usually at a rate of 1-4%. Jesus, the saviour of the world ate fish, it should be ok for everyone else.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul
If you want to bring the Bible into this, what did Adam and Eve eat in the Garden of Eden? Was this not "paradise", implying that it was perfect? Can't recall them eating cows or pigs or chickens...hmm.
God gave us dominion over animals. He also gave us dominion over our children. Should we eat them too? And as for Jesus, yes he ate fish. But that's just one religion...
Look at Buddhism. Stop criticizing alternative diets, when our standard is shit. Heart disease ISN'T natural.
MichaelBallack91 1 year ago
@MichaelBallack91 In general I do not see the Vegancult diet as being practical for most people. Maybe there are a small percentage who can bear eating this untasteful, depressing, inadequate diet........maybe???? Vegancultism is a pain in the ass because of the limited choices you have when you want to eat out. I will not go over the shortcomings nutritionally, I am sure you have heard them before, these are very valid problems in my eyes. What a crummy, boring way to eat.
tickyul 1 year ago
you are the most important person of the face of the universe you should run the planet not a mere nation that posions its inhabitants
zoklops 1 year ago
he didn't even answer the question.
cokburn625 1 year ago 2
It doesn't seem like that was his intention in the first place. He's answered those questions in other videos. Here, he was simply showing the stupidity it takes for a S.A.D. person to be asking that question.
graciousSenor 1 year ago
@cokburn625 i agree. he didn't.
werdnanotroh 1 year ago
If people concentrated their efforts on banning pesticides and herbicides in Fruits and vegetables, Banning heavy metals chlorine and flouride in our water supply. Banning Mercury fillings, drugs like Accutane that are complete poisons, readressed the balance between doctors just handing out drugs and actually healing the human body. Rallying against Codex Ailmentarius and hormones in our meat and dairy industry. Thats the real issue, not who's eating meat and who isnt,
redmeatheart 1 year ago
@redmeatheart
very well said, your comment here is Excellent and very perceptive. Most people in America are totally clueless about real Health
The things you just mentioned are SO obvious , that its astounding how many people miss them.
Codex Alimentarius especially is horrible, and whats really pathetic is that 90 % of the American population has NO idea what it is or even heard of it, Nor do they have any interest in it
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
@redmeatheart
Hey just curious, being you are in the UK and you guys get so little sunshine out there, do you take a Vitamin D supplement ?
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
@LifeRegenRevolution The way i see it is this, the further we move from nature the worse off we'll be. It's medically proven that causcasians need around 20 minutes of sunlight per day to get enough vitamin D, Black people need up to 2 hours to produce the same amount, This is all based on our history, white people lived in much colder climates therefore needed to have a very powerful vitamin D conversion system to get what we needed from the small amount of sunlight we were exposed too.
redmeatheart 1 year ago
@LifeRegenRevolution My theory is people from the UK will have a slightly better vitamin D conversion system than their american counterparts, due to the fact they've lived in a colder environment all our lives. Siberians will have an even better conversion system than the english and so on.. The body will regulate itself in the environent it finds itself in. I personally wouldnt supplement high dose vitamin D because it's fat soluble and can cause toxicity, Hypercalcemia and other things.
redmeatheart 1 year ago
@LifeRegenRevolution I love your videos Dan because you get to the heart of the matter, I believe your one of the pioneers I was refering too. If all the practitioners and people united against the real problems than we'd all be in a far better position. Take care my friend i wish you all the best.
redmeatheart 1 year ago
another douche lord read one book turned evangelical, its raw legion time folks, the jewish zombie has run his corse, were on to worshipping brocalli sprouts and wearing shirts two sizes to big.
kaiwanmak 1 year ago
so true it's like a smoker saying how do u breathe without cigarettes lol I love it
holylok 1 year ago
How do you breathe without farting?
JasonRox88 1 year ago
i dont like the assumption Tim that all meateaters eat hamburgers, it's like saying all vegans are anorexic,, it's just not true. Look at Joseph rubin for an example of a healthy person that eats meat. You can eat meat, eggs, veggies fruit and nuts and be healthy, Plus human beings are omnivours, we have canine teeth. I hate how vegans and some meateaters can be so ignorant to the other side, the truth is a comprimise between meat and vegan. Dairy is horrendous for you, but good meat isnt.
redmeatheart 2 years ago
@redmeatheart
Of course a person can be healthy eating Meat, but you can also be just as healthy and many times often healthier eating NO meat.
its all a choice
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
@LifeRegenRevolution i actually agree with you bizarrely, i do believe a vegan diet is the healthiest. It is the only diet (raw food) that can bring people back from some of the worst conditions known to man. The leading people in the field are the Raw food practioners. But there are some great detox experts that claim grass fed meat has the perfect ratio of fats to heal the cell. The bilayer of the cell is very important to function needing a 4 to 1 ratio, which is found in grass fed meat
redmeatheart 1 year ago
a caveman's diet consisted of mostly fruits and veggies, and they were more fit than any of you
plus, statistically speaking, 1/3 of you all are going to die from heart disease or diabetes, and look at him at 40
Now you see who is stupid. I'm not even a vegan.
monkeygigglesful 2 years ago
@monkeygigglesful i agree to some extent, but i think fruits veggies and meat is perfectly acceptable, just look at the paleo diet for a closer representation of what the cavemen ate.
redmeatheart 2 years ago
how do you know cavemen were more fit than any of us? and if they were, maybe it was because they all had to be genetically fit (natural ahtletes) to survive and the ones that werent died.
moesker 1 year ago
u are a fucking stupid ass ignorant person god i hope to meet u one day to beat your protein deficient ass .ajlbsiohbqayisdgbibgcdyubaociybvayhbvahidbvohabdpoiabvdohabvohjvaoyuvoyhvcouhavcohuavichvaouhcvwoudvohuwvdouhqvdiuqvdouwvedohuvweodhubvwqohdvoldviqw digqvdouqvoud
jerry69berry831 2 years ago
@jerry69berry831 I eat less protein than I need and I weigh 170 lbs at 5'11 and play college water polo (5 % fat) you are the fat ass
monkeygigglesful 1 year ago
wow! harsh comments up here...this man makes sence...i have something to say" noah's ark" they laughed and then they drowned...fools
vicky2c 2 years ago
This is such faulty logic.
videogme 2 years ago
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the weak will die because you cant eat meat you pussy
P.s.fuck you, i like meat
666darkdragon777 2 years ago
idiot
tofurkeyrice 2 years ago
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you fool i hope you choke on grass
P.s.i know your mother is a goat and your dad a drunk pervert so that makes you a....
666darkdragon777 2 years ago
bs. vegan bs
dza9 2 years ago
haha funny comparison.
i wish youd explain how youre getting b-12 though, rather than raising a question and not answering it. if you really want to go on a rampage and convert people, you should consider bulking up. you are indeed muscular, and the fact that a vegetarian has not lost his muscle mass clearly indicates that an animal protein deficiency does not have to lead to muscle depletion, but body builders arent going to take you seriously and theyre still going to consume whey.
MichaelDeMichele 2 years ago
b12 is abundant in natural foods but sadly most raw-fooders don't know that. so they get it in vitamin form.
it's available in rarely eaten things such as dandelion greens.
Diatonic135 2 years ago 2
can you give a couple examples
screenflicker1 2 years ago 2
just take a look at gorillas. they only eat fruits and leafy greens and look at how muscular they are
nokia3210fuck 2 years ago 2
they eat insects all the time for protein
Squabbles10 2 years ago
True dat!
MikeLockard 2 years ago
Not everyone whose saying this eats mcdonald's, that's an ignorant statement, and no, food science is not useless, but evidence is worth much more than theory. Science is constantly changing, what is referred to as fact by the scientific community one day might be laughed at the next day, and vice versa. Science is constantly evolving, go on Wikipedia and look up natural hygiene, check the criticism and you'll see "excluding milk from your diet is asking for osteoporosis." LOL
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Tynx 2 years ago
Go to aggressive health cavemen....you can get a balanced nutritional diet from raw foods...raw organic, juicing and smoothies mixed with a whole host of super foods will give you optimal health! Mike Nash Legend!
KillingInTheNameOf08 2 years ago
Very good way to throw nutrition science out the window.. Where are your sources!? what science do you back up your facts from!?
God you provoke me soo much, to me you are a symbol on ignorance and fanatism.
faquarl08 2 years ago
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This sissy motherfucker look like crap.
penileperrffection 2 years ago
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ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
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You look like a woman.
You look like you like to suck cock too.
THIS GUY HAS AN OBVIOUS HORMONAL DEFICIENCY OF TESTOTERONE.
HE IS FULL OF ESTROGEN FROM ALL THAT SOY- WHICH IS TERRIBLE FOR YOU
fatmansupremefatness 2 years ago
Fatman
you are insane
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
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ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
raw vegans eat soy? News to me.
PatrikDC 2 years ago
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YOU ARE deficient in the LONG CHAIN n- 3 fattty acids you vegan asshole.
fatmansupremefatness 2 years ago
E3 Live Algae
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
Most of the B12 in supplement form comes from LA and NYC sewage sludge. Well- I guess we should all play is safe and be sure to take our B12 tablets....
RawFitChris 2 years ago
ive heard the most natural supplement form of b12 is Nanoplex b12
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
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aussiechic911 2 years ago
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You ARE DEFICIENT, loser. MEAT contains POWERFUL ANTI-OXIDANTS needed for OPTIMUM CARDIOVASCULAR HEALTH
L-Carnitine, carnosine, and COQ10, to name a few.......
YOuare DEFICIENT in the above PLUS EPA and DHA
You NEED fatty fish or to supplement WITH KRILL OR FISH OIL
LONG CHAIN OMEGA 3'S loser
The conversion rate for ALA intio EPA and DHA is only 2%
fatmansupremefatness 2 years ago
' MEAT contains POWERFUL ANTI-OXIDANTS '
False
go Research Dr. Fred Bisci, hes 75 yrs old, been a Raw Vegan for Over 35 yrs. and hes in Excellent Health and extremely athletic and vigorous and suffers No diseases or ailments of any kind.
Man is Not a Meat Eater by way of Anatomy, Physiology or Biology
Thats a Fact
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
Humans are Naturally and Biologically by Design to be Raw Vegans
That is an indisputable fact
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
e3live Algae contains excellent high quality DHA and omega 3s
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
Blackdog453:
I agree with you 100%.
So many here are only interested in being told that they are right. They won't listen to a reason.
Tim makes wild claims and gives no proof.
At least none in these youtube clips, or on his web page.
dmosier 2 years ago
DMO
you say " Tim makes wild claims and gives no proof "
Actually you couldnt be More wrong ! His Life experience is his Proof , and everything he is saying is Verified by THOUSANDS of other people who experienced the same things as he did !
Let your ' proof ' be your own individual experience and test this Diet on your own body for yourself and Measure the results
Thats the ONLY real way you'll know for sure anyway
911hasNOplanes 2 years ago 2
he is the proof check out david wolfe
circlestream 2 years ago
cool
i was about to buy a b12 supplement guess i dont need it anymore.....right??
KARINinLaLaLand 2 years ago
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parfumess 2 years ago
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go buy that vitamine b12, it is not availeble in plantfood nowedays. B12 that is found in plantbased food is not working in the human body or it a fake what is really hard to see. This fake one disturbs the absorbtion of b12. Before machanic farming and poor quiality of soil there was b12 on plants. But of the bad soil and the hygenic cleening of products before they come in the store is removing b12 if it was left on with this poor soil condition. A lot of vegans thit it before little sucseed
parfumess 2 years ago
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parfumess 2 years ago
chollera. balrey grass, sea weet enz al this so named sources of b12 tuned out to be fake b12. a lot of the time it wil take 30/50 years to devolop a b12 dificenty.
parfumess 2 years ago
you said ' might take 50 years to devolop a b12 dificenty. '
gee than its not something to be very concerned about ! i'll worry about it 50 yrs from now
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
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parfumess 2 years ago
it might I said, not it will. You can develop one in 10 years to, that depends on how much b12 is stored in youre boy. Andyou should not take it so litghtley. When you notice it, it is often to late and there will be dammage that will never recover. Or you will die that is a possibilty to. It will damage nurves caused by demyelination and irreversible nerve cell death. Memoryloss, psychoses, Alzheimer's dementia, subacute combined degeneration of spinal cord. spontanials abortion(woman)
parfumess 2 years ago
Actually the group that is most deficient in B12 are Pregnant meat eating women . Sure Vegans can get deficient, but so can every one else regardless of ones Diet.
Eating wild unwashed garden fruits and vegs also gives us b12
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago 2
In the past communitys who lived on a plant based diet did get their b12 fro earth on vegs and some fruits. But now days in the store everything is mechanich produced and the veggies and fruit are hygenic cleaned. The soil is not from good quiality annymore and don´t provides enough b12 annymore because we have polute the planet and so the quality of the earth. You don´t know whta kind of state youre soil has and of it provides enough b12...nnot everbody has home grown veggies and the veggies
parfumess 2 years ago
If a Vegan has any doubts about their b12 then all they have to do is take a supplement and Not worry about it.
Its really not a big deal. Lets just be honest, 80% of the USA population, regardless of what diet they are on, are VERY deficient in Lots of Nutrients
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago 2
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parfumess 2 years ago
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parfumess 2 years ago
they sell in a store don´t provide you b12, biologich or not. I think it is dangerous to tell people they don´t need pills now days.Yes they do because the world is that destroyd she can not provide true soil b12 on the places they grow fruit and veggs. The eath is done. So the natural option is not a option annymore because of our actions and we shoud take procoision and pop b12 pills. This is topic alot of acedemic research is done and raw vegans are not safe
parfumess 2 years ago
This is topic alot of acedemic research is done and raw vegans are not safe just as normal vegans without taking b12 pills
regarding b12 deficeinty among meat eaters, what diet you have you should eat a lot of healthy food, The average amrican diet is not healthy and don´t provides enough vitamines enz and a lot of americans are difeceint because of that. Pregnant woman should have more care about what they eat because babys take the b12 of the mother and make a storage in their own
parfumess 2 years ago 2
body for about a year. Vegan or not should eat properly and healthy. Vegans and vegetariens are healthier because they are giving a lot of time on their eating habbits. If people who eat meat should eat more veggies and fruits they would be healthy to. That higly prossesd food is not food, it gives youre body nothing. If you are vegan you gould eat unhealthy to that doesn´t mather. Here in holland and sweden are the people really healthy (sweden more) because fo their eating habbits.
parfumess 2 years ago 2
hart desease, stroke, hartattack, new born baby's with hart desease if mother has a b12 defeicency enz most of this deseases are irreverseble and the damage that is been coused stays. Just like Alzheiemer or memory loss and irreverseble nerves cell death. I think you placed a pretty stupid comment and you are bringing youre self and if you have youre loved ones like kids in danger. This is not a game. I t is not over with a wonder pill and when you are discovering you have it it is often to late
parfumess 2 years ago
Google
DR. DOUG GRAHAM , a super healthy Raw Vegan Athlete over 30 yrs on this diet 100 percent !
He speaks extensively about b12
ACEBAKER911 2 years ago
It's unfortunate that he chooses to dance around the issue rather than answer it. Most videos answering these criticisms from him don't in fact answer anything at all. I clicked on the link to his videos expecting good, solid evidence and was let down.
blackdog435 2 years ago
Well I think his response implies that the raw food lifestyle is efficient. I don't recall him dancing around the issue, rather saying a question like that (is a raw diet deficient) is surprising coming from those who do not even have 1/3 of their daily intake of vital nutrients.
aishanak 2 years ago 5
As you say, he critiques a lot of other people's diets but does nothing to disprove the notion of deficiency in the raw diet.
blackdog435 2 years ago
where's the proof for it being deficient in the first place you bloody wanker.
trkrichardson 2 years ago
@aishanak You get vital nutrients from spirulina, for example...
jdemeulenaer123 11 months ago
You don't need 2-300+ grams of protein a day to be a bodybuilder. I'm a comp bodybuilder and I don't even track how much protein I take in.
Achillesreborn 2 years ago
25- 30 grams is sufficient, the body requires very little protein
AutoYorn1 2 years ago 2
30 grams would be sufficient if you sat on your arse all day and did nothing. For a comepetitive athlete or even someone who plays sports for fun, more protien is required. Not as much as most bodybuilders seem to believe, but 30 grams won't cut it.
blackdog435 2 years ago
Watch tims video here PROTEIN MYTH
InsideJob4911 2 years ago 2
Good point!
montsyblackmaddona 3 years ago
You are wrong. There are not just "Raw Foodies" and "Junk Foodies".. There are "Natural Foodies" also, like myself. I am not all raw (only about 60% raw), but I eat all natural whole foods and yes I eat meat. I eat a very balanced diet and I feel great! You NEED VitB12 (and all the other B vitamins) or you will be tired and yes Deficient! Just because you're alive doesn't mean all is well. You should be very careful telling people they don't need meat and vitamin B12 - It is very irresponsible.
waynebw 3 years ago
that's not really convincing at all dude. As a meat-eater, I grew up with lifelong vegans.
It's all about the adjustment.
People only get weak 'cause it's a stage of transition. It's quite irresponsible to say "everyone needs meat" or buy into dogma when things are prone to change, even if at one's will.
27362489723683524783 3 years ago
I'm mainly saying that there are not just the 2 kinds of people (raw vegan and junkies), but many people in between. I don't want to start a debate about what's wrong or right.. Actually I think completely raw is great! Im more & more raw these days. Raw plant-foods should be the majority of a diet. I think people with different goals need different foods. I bodybuild and want as natural diet as possible, so my needs r different to the guy in the video whos a runner (less muscle mass). Peace :)
waynebw 3 years ago
Meat is totally unnecessary !
Humans do NOT need meat under any circumstance
Humans are naturally vegan by our nature, design and physiology
jblaz1024 3 years ago
Most of a diet should be raw vegan.. but for someone like myself, it's extremely hard to get enough protien to build muscle from only vegetarian sources. For example, I need 300g of protien per day to build muscle on top of my current lean mass. From broccoli (which is high in protein for a vegetable) I would need 10kg per day to get my protein. Even eating nuts and other high protien foods, it's very hard without meat.
So... There ARE circumstances we need meat. Also, you need Vitamin B12!!
waynebw 3 years ago
True...but you don't need to be bodybuilding in order to be healthy and living well. Thus, that circumstance would not be considered a necessity for meat as the circumstance itself is not neccesity, but chosen.
ItsDustinDazzlin 2 years ago
So answer me this... Name 1 Plant source with Vitamin B12. Spirulina? Nope, the B12 is not bio-available. There are no plants with Vitamin B12, and it is essential to your body, so if you can explain how you survive with no B12 then I will be impressed, otherwise don't just go preaching we don't need meat with no scientific knowledge or references.
waynebw 3 years ago
Actually the # 1 deficient person whos deficient in b12 is Meat eating pregnant women
b12 is manufactured in the Intenstines, I get my B12 from a clean healthy digestive system, and from eating Unwashed wild greens in the spring and summer from my Garden Vegs and Fruits
For most vegans, B12 is simply not an issue the Deficiency is just as prevelant in Meat Eaters as in any other group.
TheGreat911HOAX 2 years ago 2
Millions of years of evolution and science would like a word with you.
blackdog435 2 years ago
I love your videos.
Have you been tested to see if your B12 Deficient? I have researched this subject & even some Vegan website are saying we can't get B12 from Vegetables or Fruits etc..
NaturalWay2Live 3 years ago
That's correct.. There are a very few plant foods that 'have' Vitamin B12 (Spirilina?), but it IS NOT Bio-Available so you cant use it. Eggs are a good source of if.. just 2-3 eggs will give you heaps of B12, Omega 3s and countless other nutrients. I eat them raw too.
waynebw 3 years ago
Yeah, unfortunately you can't get vitamin B12 from plant-based products. I have to get mine from fortified pills and/or fortified cereal.
cdover7890 2 years ago
True, but the body can easily replace B12 with folate.
ItsDustinDazzlin 2 years ago
Sugar and Fat: Cravings and Aversions1
Susan Yanovski2
National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, Bethesda, MD 20892
Craving is defined as "a consuming desire or yearning" (1 ). Cravings for foods are extremely common, with 97% of women and 68% of men reporting episodes of food cravings (2 ).
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
Ernie you mention to validate the Raw diet we need 'science' to approve it 1st. Well my question to you is very simple,
'science' according to who ? I dont, nor do Many other Americans consider such foolish stupid treatments as chemotherapy truly 'science' yet all the buffoons who call themselves 'scientists' all approve of it
One Mans 'scientist' is another mans bought and paid for commercial Puppet, Modern 'science' is Often Not about Truth, its about MONEY
quietstorm403 3 years ago
Much of the literature on food cravings has been devoted to carbohydrate cravings and to the connection between food and mood. A frequently proposed theory is that many individuals ingest carbohydrates in an effort to elevate mood (3 ). This theory postulates that, in essence, food is being used as a form of self-medication to ameliorate unpleasant affective states. This occurs through increases in the brain neurotransmitter serotonin, which is known to have a positive impact on mood.
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
As a starter, try-
I think the sugar addiction VEGANS and RAWS have shows up in these videos. The authors "appear" very lively and so "healthy". In fact, they are on a "sugar high". Get them some hour later and they will be on a downer and will need more sugar to feed their addiction.
PROVE ME WRONG !!!
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
Ernie,
go Research a 52 yr old Man in OR named IGOR BOUTENKO, he fully healed himself of Numerous health conditions, and is so vibrant , energetic and Strong, that he can do 1,000 consecutive push ups !
Hes been a Raw Vegan for 15 yrs , and eats mostly Organic Raw Greens
quietstorm403 3 years ago
At last, the nonsense has gone !
Anyone willing to present a reasonable case for RAW diets ?
You will need support evidence from recognized scientific sources ! Tim's here-say is a waste of time.
Thanks.
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
Ernie
As an analogy, any intelligent rational Objective human being can reason that its Obvious that Chemotherapy is Dangerous and Disasterous for Cancer treatment.
Yet amazingly enough the conventional 'scientific' sources and the AMA fully support it, even though the graveyards are full of this barbaric treatments victims.
No sane intelligent Person would ever undergo such an Asinine illogical method of treatment for Cancer or any other disease. Common sense trumps so called "science"
quietstorm403 3 years ago
I think you two have said enough. I suggest you just send texts to each other and let us know the outcome.
Every sensible person knows eating RAW is basically silly. As humans, we developed cooking to make our food a lot more appetizing. It's main purpose is to destroy toxins and bacteria ever present in raw vegetation.
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
I consider this to be essential reading to ALL-
forum.lowcarber(.org} Active Low-Carber Forums > Main Low-Carb Diets Forums & Support > Low-Carb Studies & Research / Media Watch > LC Research/Media World's Oldest Person - High Fat Diet
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
As a proponent of the raw vegan diet, one who is educated on this subject, the raw vegan diet is deficient in b12.
There are cobalamins in some plant based foods, but they are not active in the human body. There is also human active cobalamin in dulse, but its absorption is blocked by certain analogues in dulse, so it is not helping you. It is a neutral food, as far as b12 is concerned. And the yeast that people take for b12...as I understand it, the yeast is fortified with 'non-raw' b12.
BooKittyRadley 3 years ago
Raw vegan diet, done right, is still better than almost any other configuration. Most health-consciounce omnivores with supposedly balanced diets, are usually worse off physically than raw vegans. They are certainly (on average) more overweight and closer to diabetes.
Raw vegan diet + Jarrows B Right b complex supplement (or another b vitamin supplement that contians methylcobalamin instead of cyanocobalamin or hydroxocobalamin as b12)is the healthiest way to eat I can think of.
BooKittyRadley 3 years ago
Something very interesting regarding testing serum b12: inactive b12 (such as the b12 in plant-based foods) shows up in the blood, making the number higher. This explains false 'normal' readings in those who are deficient, including raw vegans who don't supplement b12.
BooKittyRadley 3 years ago
And from some obscure source-
albanyrunningexchange
sarahdzik: Tim VanOrden wins again!! 1st place in Sunday's XTERRA Point Mugu 18K Trail Run with a time of 1:09:32.88 (pace - 6:14)
Sorry Tim and fellow RAWS, if you can't make CoolRunning consistently, you don't rate !
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
A glitch ?
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
If you accept Tim is a PROFESSIONAL FRAUD, this explains everything. Tim says in one of his videos he does not pay income tax. How does he make a living? Is he on welfare ?
Results get published in local newspapers. So some patriot must have some results somewhere, sometime.
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
Just to show other VEGAN RAW nuts what is necessary, try-
Otherwise, NOBODY is at all interested in your rhetoric.
Recent studies have shown that eating saturated fats present no greater hazards to health than do excess eating of carbohydrates. You must realize that excess carbohydrates are converted to fatty acids by the liver to be stored by the body as fat.
I will give you a live link to this if you want.
See-
diabetesincontrol.
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
When a piece of ruptured plaque enters the blood it can block narrow vessels upstream and cause a heart attack or stroke. Recently, the tendency of blood to clot has come into focus as a major cause of heart attacks. People whose blood clots too readily are at very high risk. You may recall that one of the medical names for a heart attack is coronary thrombosis. A thrombus is a clot, and coronary thrombosis refers to the formation of a large clot in one of the arteries that feed the heart
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
People who have elevated levels of certain clotting precursors or depressed levels of clotting inhibitors in their blood are at high risk of dying from heart attacks. This risk probably far exceeds that caused by high LDL or low HDL. Some of the blood factors that enhance clotting include fibrinogen and factor VII. Another factor, lipoprotein(a), inhibits the destruction of small thrombi before they become large enough to cause a heart attack.
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
All of these factors have been found to increase in people with chronically high blood sugars. Platelets, or thrombocytes, are particles in the blood that play major roles in the blocking of arteries and the formation of clots. These have been shown to clump together and stick to arterial walls much more aggressively in people with high blood sugars. What is exciting is that all of these factors, including sticky platelets, tend to normalize as long-term blood sugars improve.
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
No results, not interested !
I need fully documented evidence from somebody qualified in this field. If you are too tied to do this. then go eat a REAL meal. Till then,you don't deserve a reply !
PROFLOP1 3 years ago
Tim Van Orden has real documented Results ! Case closed , gee that was easy
next question please lol
AlanKeyes2 3 years ago
As I said, where are the results of all of these events ?
If you want to be decieved by Tim and this RAW nonsense, so be it. Just don't try and push it onto any gullible people who may be tempted to take it on.
As I have stated before, I feel most RARES are addicted to sugar. This is very dangerous and will lead to diabetes.
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
Erniemac
to be honest, the only one who sounds gullible here is you ! the most important part of any diet for Humans is Organic dark green leafy vegetables
AlanKeyes2 3 years ago
Yes, I have seen some of his fake movies. He never mentions what time he does these great exploits in. Or any reference to a newspaper or any other athletic publication.
At aged 60, I use to climb tracks on MOUNTAINS in New South Wales and Lord Howe Island. I didn't need to go to a video on YouTube or such in an attempt to "glorify" my "achievements". Why does Tim do this ?
HE exploits this RAW myth !
ERNIEMAC2 3 years ago
ERNIE
do some research on Dr. Doug Graham, he is a long time 25 yr. long Raw Vegan and a serious all around Athlete and runner in Excellent physical condition
Its not just Tim proving this diet is the best diet for Athletics
AlanKeyes2 3 years ago
Don;t be too hard on poor old TIM. He makes a living- so he says out of this RAW nonsense he "expounds". People are gullible enough to PAY to listen to him lecture. I bet he is at home rubbing his hands together over a COOKED meat and two veg dinner.
TIM- there is a sucker born every minute. Make the best of it while you can.
PROFLOP1 3 years ago
PROFLOP
you guys are amazing. so funny how you are trying to have it both ways. 1st all of you say tim is far too skin and frail looking, because of his Raw Diet
Now here you are saying he is probably at home eating cooked food meal with heavy calories
which is it dude ? you just sound like a jaded angry crank, the facts are not on your side , so get over it
AlanKeyes2 3 years ago
Me and proflop aren't the same people you retard.
Yiannis Kouros.
easternslavic 3 years ago
I never said you were
AlanKeyes2 3 years ago
You implied that we have the same frame of thought. Just because we both eat meat. Therefore accordig to your logic, 98% of the worlds population should have the same beliefs and thoughts as me.
easternslavic 3 years ago
Eastern
You and he both have said that you think Tims Diet is severely deficient because he is too skinny.
and i have proved you both wrong, as a Professional full training runner, should he weigh 220 lbs at 5' 9 " ? is that your standard for health for a competitive serious Runner ?
dude you sound totally out of touch and ridiculous
AlanKeyes2 3 years ago
Wait, you proved me wrong? where was I when this happened?
Oh and what's your fixation with weight? you seem to jump from 165 to 220lbs like it's no big deal. I already showed you what a real runner should look like. Tim is a nobody, I doubt he competes that much. The guy I showed you runs thousands of miles. This guy came 58th in a 10k run lmao.
easternslavic 3 years ago
EasternHypocrite
you said in Numerous posts here and other vids of his, that Tim was way too frail and skinny. Lets make this real simple for a guy like you
He is 5'9" 160. Give me at 5'9" what you think is the ideal healthy weight for a Professional runner who trains all year long ?
Its amazing to me how stupid you are, just trying to get simple direct information from you is so difficult
just please answer the question you are asked DIRECTLY
thanks !
AlanKeyes2 3 years ago