CowLunch....ALL the prophets before WERE ALL MUSLIMS!! They had no name for their religon, BUT THEY ALL TAUGHT THE SAME ONE THING, BELIEF IN ONE GOD This includes, Moses,Abraham, Noah, Jesus....The religon was PERFECTED WHEN MUHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON HIM was THE LAST MESSANGER. Thank you :)
@number5ful Bullshit. No real prophet of God ever mentioned, Allah, Mecca, Kaaba, praying five times a day, kissing the black stone, Ramadan, Jinn's or Jihad.
Muhammad created Islam for his own ends. It elevated him from common war lord, thief and paedophile to God like status among the greedy and wicked that flocked to HIS religion.
@ManInControI all prophets are all muslims different times and books just gave different namings from juddism to christianity and now islam if you know what your talking about you would know as a muslim we are required to believe in all of those religions+prophet ibraheem was the first one to build mecca with his son , not muhammad pilgrimage was always there kissing the black stone isn't a must it's favorable cuz its a piece of heaven+christians and jews both fast as well but its
@ManInControI but its not called the month of ramadhan cuz they do it differently, however same basis! Allah is a single name it's not wrong to call him god since it means the same in another language+ praying has been in every religion why is it a nonsense when muslims do it? & jinn are another world but they do exist they have lives religions and everything a human has Muhammad did not create islam hes only a MESSENGER! please know what the hell you talk about before you say it!
@alatharrii Bullshit..lol Abraham and his sons never set foot in Mecca....Your Islam is just pagan cult, it has ne connection to Judaism and Christianity what so ever...and you cannot prove otherwise
@ManInControI Ironically bullshit is what you said.... When your very own intellects praise that man, you got a problem..... keep bitching its amusing how ignorant yet confident you guys can be...
If you are a higher status do your ancestors get upgraded? What if they were not Muslim? Do they still get upgraded? Like your Great-Great-Great Grandfather (the one who was never Muslim), where is he?
(Bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim) Say, "0 you disbelievers! I worship not that which you worship. Nor will you worship that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping. Nor will you worship that which I worship. To you be your religion, and to me my religion." Sura 109 Al-Kafirun.
@AjdinCerenic This IS the TRUTH: quran demands muslims to kill.Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57). You must be ignorant to have faith in a religion and a man that teaches to kill in the name of GOD(ALLAH).muhamad's way was and still is"ISLEM TESLIM."By the Sword. Read sura 9:29 “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, Muslim’s make every effort to suppress any who claim to follow the Bible. Check your quran
Dear Bro, what about 72 virgins on top of your earthly wives and 300 boys? This is what revealed to your prophet Muhammad right? He was a sex maniac, we can see this in his wild fantasy.
Shame on you to follow such a sinner and word came out of his mouth.
Toot much religion has pickled your brain bro? Can you point me to a Islamic video which is talking about helping anyone in need...instead of talking shit all the time.
@ambarmalik yes, as many as you want, but for a start /watch?v=mK5McYWUoVs. You get everything you search for, so can you please not waste your 15 seconds writing stupid coments but just write "Islam teaches helping poor people" instead of "Islam barks shit" on the search bar?
at least this man realizes his ancestors were Hindus, now he should also realize there were subject to torture and subjugation before they converted to Islam.
@AjdinCerenic You are weak as you believe in the quran, you are weak as you believe in a man who, if he was alive today would certainly get the death penalty. You are weak as you cannot see that. YOU ARE WEAKMINDED.,
@theHatchett1 So basically i'm weak because I believe in worshipping one God, doing good deeds, giving to charity, praying, being patient, being honest and being honorable. I guess it's also weak to believe in the afterlife and to follow a prophet who was called "the honest one" by people who were not even his followers. To believe in the prophethood of a man who was illiterate and today is the most influential person of all time. If you knew me you would never call me weak. Alhamdulillah!
@AjdinCerenic What a load of crap! How many orphans in islamic countrys? How many murders of christians? How much hate for jews? What islamic country is nice without western help and engineering? Of course you are weak! Your self proclaimed "prophet" was nothing more than a scumbag peado, warmongering sex addict! Shakespear hsa been more influential than mohammed any day of the week! Now fuck off!! hahahaha cunt!
@theHatchett1 did shakespear had over 1.6 b of fellow, come on!. The jews don't trust christians at all, and see their book what they says about them and their brutality. The jews were slaughtering by you guys in europe while they being protected in muslims land, look the jews stories in spain. We don't hate jews but we hate israel. No wander you preachers get humiliated when they debate Muslim scholars. At these level of ignorance we can says bye-bye to which religion you follow.
@theHatchett1 Does it make you feel like a tough guy to spew ignorance and insult people's religion over the computer? Does your hatred make your love for your faith stronger? Insults and name calling from behind a computer is a coward move. All you prove in your arguments is that you're an ignorant coward.
@sjjumani be patient and ignore the evil they are trying to bring out of you. Sometimes silence is worth way better to talk to an ignorant person. The way I see it is that if both sides are persistent, then both sides are at loss(waste of time).
Someone answer this please. So We will get elevated in Jannah if we had family who were better than us in this life, and we are ALL children of Adam. So assuming that were all related to at least One prophet, does that mean we will get elevated with them also?
We humans put such importance on ourselves when really we are not important at all.
Religion was written by humans to feed our own ego and I feel sorry for all you people who think something is coming after this life. The only saving grace is that you won't know anything when you die just like you never knew anything before you were born.
There is nothing so just enjoy the one and only life you have and stop wasting your time waiting for the next because it will never come!
@MrJoystickid That's a good and justified premise, but if Religion was truly written by humans then everything in it is subjective and some of it MUST be flawed, because humans are flawed. So the first question would have to be that the men who have claimed to bring religion from God have to have a reason for their claim or there has to be a justified reason for why that person is claiming religion. On top of this you must state whether religion is bad or good for this world? Then can we only..
Religion is flawed and that's why I don't believe in it.
To attempt to answer your question I will say this one thing, there have been thousands of religions throughout human history but surely enough they either die out or change to suit it's believers. Do you think that muslims today interpret islam the same way muslims a thousand years ago did, I know christians don't. Islam moves the goal posts just like all the other man made religions.
@MrJoystickid Religion is flawed? Maybe so. Then you state that there have been thousands of religions throughout human history but they either die out or change. Very true.
The majority of Muslims DO interpret Islam the same way as 1,400 years ago. Yes there minor differences within the majority, but as a whole it is the same today as before, hence why Muslims are called "barbaric, out of date, strange, ancient" etc.
Every belief in the history of man has changed becuase the world has changed, if it really was the word of god there would be no change in interpretation.
I'm presuming you're a muslim sorry if you're not. Not one single person on this planet can say 100% that there is or isn't an afterlife but the fact remains that we have no solid verifiable provable evidence for an afterlife so I don't believe there is. The possibilities have been exhausted for the last 200 years at least and that is why there are people like me in the world. I was a believer but after years of questioning I concluded that there is nothing.
@MrJoystickid Again a justified position. no evidence = does not exist. I was also a believer and then I became an agnostic and now I am slowly returning to belief again.
Obviously it is very nearly impossible to get direct evidence of an afterlife. No one has died and returned to tell us if it is true or not.
So what can be done? Well, we can look at the people who claimed to know that there is such a thing like the afterlife...
So to me this is evidence that there is no afterlife and therefore no such thing as god. Like you said religion is subjective and to me that means people use it...
to suit their own purpose. I do good because I want to not becuase I think I will get a better place in "heaven" which is basically what this video is about.
@MrJoystickid You think there is no afterlife because there is no physical evdience for it.. this is paradoxical, due to the fact that for us to get any physical evdience for an afterlife which means someone needs to die and then come back stating yes there is AND even then there is no physical evidence that is also someone stating it? HOW DO WE GET PHYSCIAL EVDIENCE FOR AN AFTERLIFE? IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? These questions need to be addressed for you to be able to believe in an afterlife ONLY..
@MrJoystickid ...After you get some physical evdience for it.
Please tell me how can we get physical evdience for such areas?
Last two points, people use religion for their own purpose... yes that is very true in some cases, but this does not mean anything, Religion can still be the truth, truth does not change to falsehood if someone uses it negatively, which is of course wrong.
Of course the video is about that... So? you may apparently be able to do good without ANY...
@MrJoystickid incentive or motivation BUT most people on this planet cannot do that, they need incentives they need motivation? This is proven from a child we use operant conditioning, why? Because it is EXTREMELY effective.
I live in the UK and here most people do not do good out of the goodness of their heart. Humans even if they say do. They want something from it and if they get nothing, they do nothing.
@MrJoystickid This is why we have hunger and people dying from starvation, this is why we have people getting killed everywhere, this is why we have gang crime, drugs, trafficking , this is why parents run away from their responsibility of looking after their child, people do not do good because they are magically all angels inside, this is not practical and it does not occur in reality.
People will act selfishly unless told it is wrong.
@MrJoystickid You may do good and that is fine, i commend you for being a great human being, but unless this is the case with the majority (and it is not) this argument does not hold any validity.
Religion however corrupt, evil, barbaric, old school you want to call it has boundaries so people do not cause corruption in society.
"As to those who believe and work righteous deeds, they have, for their entertainment, the Gardens of paradise" (18:107).
@MrJoystickid Once you understand, interpret, analyse, research and observe the person (or people) who brought these claims you can start building up a reason to believe in what that person stated.
If person A states that Belief A is true. Then Person B should question the person who brings such a claim. Physical evdience may not be the only criteria for evidence. What about the reputation of the person, the mental health, the history, the actions, the way other people interacted with him etc.
@MrJoystickid Again this assumes that physical evidence is the only reasonable justification to believe in something, which I do not believe is the case, with good reason. We believe in a few things without having ANY physical evdience for it. So physical evidence may not be the only reasonable justification to believe in something?
This doesn't give said belief any solid ground regardless of who the person is. I would love there to be an afterlife but that doesn't mean there is one.
@MrJoystickid Yes it does. If the said person always tells the truth, is nicknamed the "trustworthy", is respected, is wealthy honoured in his society, he is living the "high life" and then suddenly for a mysterious reason (which does not make sense, as there is always a reason to do something) starts teaching people about such mysterious things then the persons credibility, the respect he holds has to taken into account...
@MrJoystickid If someone goes from being loved and honoured, wealthy etc to being abused, insulted and boycotted for stating a few beliefs (one being the afterlife) and STILL continues to teach it without any swaying. Psychologically this needs to be addressed, why did such a person continue? Even when he was offered anything he wanted? Was the man insane? Was the man lying? Was the man doing it for power? Or was he telling the truth, there are your options and one has to be true...
@ScorpionFilmsINC Come off it. Muhammad’s story is that of every cult leader who ever lived, from Charles Manson to Joseph Smith. You get the same elevation of the cult leader, the same claims to persecution, the same sense of difference between the faithful and the rest, the same fanaticism.
We’ve seen it a thousand times, and we’ve heard the crummy little rationalisations that go with it a thousand times.
@NevilleRhysBarnes I didn't want to start accusing you of ignorance as you seemed to know a bit, but it seems you are ignorant. That response is one of the more ignorant i have heard. Before i even respond to anything, have you read the life of Muhammad with respected sources?
The point is you cannot claim anything like you did, unless you have the basic and broad knowledge of the topic.
I gave you 4 possible reasons of why Muhammad did what he did and you MUST respond to each with a...
@ScorpionFilmsINC Sorry i thought you were the other guy i was discussing this issue with, But you are not, but still it is ignorance to bring up such comparisons and the rest is applicable to you.
@NevilleRhysBarnes reasonable response to claim what you have claimed. I already have stated EVERYONE does something for a reason (or reasons). I stated Muhammad had to be insane or a pathological liar or wanted personal gain or all of the above OR he was telling the truth. Every single one of those cannot be true, you did not respond to any and just stated "Come off it. Muhammad’s story is that of every cult leader who ever lived, from Charles Manson to Joseph Smith...
@NevilleRhysBarnes 2. Charles Manson described himself as a 'bad man who shoots people'.
3. He had VERY small support.
4. As a youngster BEFORE any brainwashing occurred he robbed many times.
5. He was imprisoned and was found out he held a blade to a child's throat and raped the little boy while doing so.
I think that is enough to get the picture for now. The early life of Charles is a clear indication, he had nothing going for him and was just a bit loopy in the head.
@ScorpionFilmsINC You are being disingenuous. I didn’t draw direct comparisons with either Smith or Manson (although Muhammad meets at least three of the characteristics you attribute to Smith). The point is that Islam started as a cult with all the typifying characteristics of a cult. I could just as easily have cited Osho of the Rajneesh, David Koresh, or dozens of others.
@ScorpionFilmsINC Muhammad was almost certainly mentally ill at some level, as the hallucinations he experienced testify. (What, Allah could not find some more direct, less hokey and confused way of communicating with mankind?) He and Khadijah rationalised his hallucinations as being divine, leading to the initial formation of the cult. As is typical of such cults it was at this stage mostly peopled by the disaffected and marginalised.
@NevilleRhysBarnes Ahhh, Mentally ill, The age old cliché, Muhammad was just mental! No. the evidence is against such notion.
I am assuming the mental illness you speak of is schizophrenia. And Muhammad's history does not match current characteristics of this illness. You could claim that his initial "revelation" was an hallucination BUT then you have to explain his life before that and after that. No "hallucinations" before the age of 40? Did people around him also have illnesses...?
@NevilleRhysBarnes Did the whole of Arabia have an illness at the same time? Thing is history suggests that either every person around Muhammad some how caught this "plague of schizophrenia" or NONE of them were ill. you have to pick one and then give evidence for it.
Muhammad himself stated "Am i going mad?" Khadijah replied "No... You are good to people, God would not do that you..." And then she took him to her uncle who knew about revelations and the like.
@NevilleRhysBarnes The VERY FACT THAT MUHAMMAD even asked that question, questions the notion of schizophrenia. Khadijah's uncle believed it was a revelation.
People before Muhammad even reached the age of 40, stated various things bout him, Bahria the Monk being one, before Muhammad even had any "hallucination" Were they also plagued by this illness?
In those days, people with a mental illness would be "cursed" and isolated because they were some sort of devil...
@NevilleRhysBarnes Yet this did not happen... in fact when people questioned MUHAMMAD'S ENEMIES about Him, they would not say he was mental, because they knew the behaviour of one who is mad. Yet even his enemies could not 100% state he was insane.
All this plus much much more clearly suggests it was not a mental illness, rather it was something else....
@ScorpionFilmsINC A characteristic of such cults is that the followers are highly motivated to elevate the leader—they are desperate for him to have supernatural answers, and it takes a very brave and honest man to turn away adulation and admit fallibility, a test that Muhammad fails. This feedback loop increases both the leader’s mystique and the followers’ fanaticism.
@NevilleRhysBarnes This is all PLAIN CLAIMS without ANY evdience from history.
Muhammad always stated fallibility, always stated he had limits, his followers knew and He knew because he told them. He even went on to "curse" The Jews and the Christians for there fanaticism of Jesus and other Prophets, he stated NEVER make me a statue or a worship me or a picture of me etc.
He never lived like a king, or had much money, when Muhammad died all he had left was a shield, a small bit of land...
@NevilleRhysBarnes and a Mule. A leaders life as clearly given in history is usually much more luxurious than that. He stated many times he did not desire the material goods, Umar (ra) one of his companions even cried asking him "Ceaser has gold and big house and you have nothing".
It is against the very core of a cult leader to not live to the fullest.
@ScorpionFilmsINC It is this fanaticism—Muhammad’s obsession with polytheism, plus his extreme ways of expressing it, such as ringing a warning bell just so he could have a captive audience—that made Mohammad so repulsive to Meccan society. If he was persecuted then, frankly, he probably deserved it.
@NevilleRhysBarnes ???? Well this makes no sense. What extreme way did he express it in? All he did was warn the Arabs, nothing more, They got up and killed Muslims for it and boycotted Muslims and made them leave Mecca, their homeland.
He deserved it? Well this is the exact same ideology the west has today, us Muslims innocent or whatever deserve to be prosecuted because lets face it we are Muslims.
He came "repulsive" to the CHIEFS of the Quraish because it went against their forefathers..
@NevilleRhysBarnes way of life, not because somehow he was in the wrong.
The Quran says "are you going to follow your forefathers, even if they were in the wrong?"
Muhammad stopped the practice of burying the daughters alive, a massive change and of course they were going to hate him for that. JUST LIKE ANY LEADER WHO FIGHTS FOR JUSTICE OR GOOD IS HATED BY THE EVIL. They couldn't accept what he was saying, however true... so they fought him...
@ScorpionFilmsINC The next development typical of a cult is that, as they see themselves as special and above ordinary morality, they start to make their own rules. We see this in the raids on camel trains after the move to Yathrib. At this point Muhammad also dispenses with the sexual mores of his time, firstly by marrying Aisha, and later by giving himself special permission to marry more than four wives. Note that Osho, David Koresh, Smith and Manson were all sexually self-indulgence.
@NevilleRhysBarnes " the raids on camel trains after the move to Yathrib" I don't know how much you have read, but as state before the Muslims were forced to migrate from Mecca with little of their belongings to a new place. Some Muslims went to Ethiopia for protection. The only way for the Muslims to survive was to raid on caravans which had goods in them that they would sell to live... It seems it;s the same with Non Muslims they wanted the Muslims to die early on...
@NevilleRhysBarnes so they shouldn't have raided caravans of the people who threw them out with nothing to live, they shouldn't have fought the Arabs even though they wanted the Muslims dead. It's the same... Muslims... you can't fight back, but others are allowed. Double standards.
"firstly by marrying Ayesha", You fail to mention that he was with Khadijah only until she died and Ayesha was NOT HIS CHOICE. You don;t mention this stuff, but re-write the same arguments that others have stated..
@NevilleRhysBarnes It's old. Ayesha (ra) was a woman's choice after She said to Muhammad "it's been time since Khadijah died, you should re-marry" And Muhammad asked her "who do you think of?" AND THE WOMEN ADVISED HIM TO MARRY "Ayesha or another woman", Nothing of Muhammad's "secret doings".
Giving himself permission to marry 9 wives? Firstly do you know the circumstances of why he married them? Secondly, so what? That does not somehow make him mental or a liar.
@NevilleRhysBarnes you are drawn into Muhammad's married life like voyagers. So many claim this, but the lessons and reasons behind it are not your voyager fantasy.
You pick and choose parts of Muhammad's life, "look at this" "omg look at that", when you fail to understand the reasons, the context, the wisdom and the right for him to do so in any case.
@ScorpionFilmsINC The convenient way revelations come just when Muhammad needed them—e.g. justifying the caravan raids during a sacred month—is also hypocrisy. (Aisha herself commented on this convenience.) This is so blatant that one would have to have contempt for one’s followers to even try it. Muhammad had clearly reached the point where he could sell anything he wanted to his followers.
@NevilleRhysBarnes Caravan raids again.. already replied too. They had to, as they had little belongings and Muhammad had a responsibility to look after the people. It would be stupid to just sit around in the desert waiting for help when your own people forced you out.
@ScorpionFilmsINC However, non-followers were a big problem. The way he singled out and executed critics could be seen as immense egotism, but it may also have stemmed from insecurity. Muhammad was probably terrified of having his bluff called and his mystique undermined, hence his violent response to critics, and why he suddenly gets “revelations” undermining the arguments of the Jews and Christians (who certainly knew far more about theology than did he).
@NevilleRhysBarnes again, no evidence just empty claims, It is clear this far in that you have not read much of the history, if any. His OWN CRITICS tried their best to call him "mad" at points, "a poet" at points, a "devil, magician" at points, BUT none after they thought about it stood, because they knew their arguments did not hold any substance.
Jews and Christians knew more? Muhammad answered all their questions without ever going to their books and reading. they accepted his answers...
@NevilleRhysBarnes They were happy with his answers and now 1400 years later, a guy on Youtube is saying otherwise, doesn't really hold water does it?
They asked him about very specific events and he answered them all. Christians themselves (Wariqah, Bahria, Salman) saw the signs of his Prophethood before he had EVEN SPOKEN TO THEM. Or maybe they were also ill right?
@ScorpionFilmsINC However, another important psychological development comes about during the battles with the Meccans. In common with many warlords, from Genghis Khan to Hitler, Muhammad experienced the heady taste of military success, and I suspect became addicted. (I cannot comment on Muhammad’s qualities as a military leader; this lies outside my expertise.) Such figures literally do not know when to stop—only death puts an end to their ambitions.
@NevilleRhysBarnes ??? No evidence yet again. Muhammad had to fight in battles because the harsh tribal desert environment was not a gentle one, Muhammad built his own state with his companions in Yathrib and fought back and HE HAD FULL RIGHT TO DO SO. No one would ever say you have NO right to fight for your home, for you life, for your family etc. So stop this double standard.
Don;t know when to stop? what about when marched into Mecca with 10,000 people and NOT one person was killed...
@NevilleRhysBarnes In what historical figure do you see that? This again goes against your argument, Muhammad could have lead to a slaughter of the Arabs in Mecca but he said "FROM TODAY YOU CAN ACCEPT ISLAM OR GO FROM MECCA BUT YOU WILL NOT BE HARMED" And then he gave his famous against racism speech.
The simple fact is, the Muslims fought back and won and it annoys you that this could happen, it annoyed the Arabs that it happened, but they had the right to fight.
@ScorpionFilmsINC In conclusion I have no hesitation in assessing Muhammad as being to some degree mentally ill, as being a cult leader with all the psychological traps that entails, as becoming cynical and hypocritical with regard to his followers, to whom he handed the most incredible tosh, and of being deeply fearful of anyone who threatened to blow his cover. Lastly, I suspect him of having an addiction to conquest and violence that carried him through to the end of his life.
@ScorpionFilmsINC I’m not saying anything that isn’t obvious to an outside observer. The pattern of behaviour is so blatant that frankly you have to be either a starry-eyed new convert or brainwashed not to see it. Mohammad’s real nature is clear, in spite of all the myth and propaganda surrounding the man: a cult leader whose religion took off; a violent warlord who got lucky.
@MrJoystickid All these points should be taken into consideration when exploring such things. Physical evidence is the BEST possible way of providing evidence, yes. But is it the only justifiable reason to believe in something? I say no.
If a person brings a claim and NO physical evdience can be given at this point, we can justify our belief in what the person is saying as true, by knowing the person who brought the initial claim.
@MrJoystickid .. start discussing whether religion is man made or not. And then after that can we only start discussing whether this is the only life or not. You start from the basics and go forward, you cannot claim there is nothing until the possibilities have been exhausted fully. And i know it is the duty of the believer to give evidence for such a belief and that is completely true. But you cannot 100% with certainty state "there is nothing and there is only one life".
@theHatchett1 So maybe you live in a really shit area. I can't blame your opinion in that case. But where you live cannot be generalised to the whole world. What you're saying are definitely not facts
@missyattitude07 I've moved out to a really nice area now as my son was being exposed to islam at school, he's 4! The fact that muslims are killing, raping, mutilating, eating (congo) all over the world is proof enough for me. When a church can be built next to mekka, and they can intergrate peacefully, without fear of christians, and obey our laws, then i will accept islam as an equal, untill then i'm readyt for the war they all preach in the mosques all over england.
@theHatchett1 Church in Mecca? That depends on if Saudi Arabia is allowed to become a secular liberal democracy. I dont think your states (USA & EU) would want that. Then again, why would Saudi Arabia become a secular liberal democracy, only because u are? That doesnt make sense. Have a nice day and fuck u!
@Leaf2812 Don't try to pull wool over our wide open eyes. All muslims claim islam is of peace when, in fact every islamic country is killing non muslims and especially christians all over the world, sudan, ejypt, africa, syria, you name it. So if you can't answer its fine. It just proves you have to answer by pointing at the west lol so you have no answer....
What is your problem? Don't you know theres corruption in the so called islamic contries? Haven't you seen the news on how we are fighting against the governments?
@Leaf2812 Yes you are fighting against the govnmnts but look at who's replacing them? Far worse people and i don't need the news thankyou, i live amoung muslims and know very well thanks!!!
@Leaf2812 Yes, thats the beauty of the west, and exactly why you all run away from your countrys to live with us. But remember one thing. Us Europeans have fought for centurys to have the freedoms you and me alike cherish. And we will fight to keep them.
You will quickly realise that it was the west who supported these corrupt leaders. You are nothing more than a orientalist, in the postcolonialism sense.
@Leaf2812 WOW!! hahahahahaha case in point! clearly proven thank you for showing me just how foolish muslims really are. I mean how you got there is remarkable hahaha. Don't delued yourself any further. Join the human race and get away from islam as fast as you can. while you still have atleast ONE brain cell hahahaha. unbelievable! lmao
Ehm, fact is you have not provided me with ANY proof. Fact is, I disproved all other arguments given before. Fact is you still think you somehow won the debate that never happened, because you've only come with claims (as you most sure have heard on anti islamic sites, which never provides you with full context).
@Leaf2812 oH PURLEAZE! LOL FactS ARE NIETHER HERE NOR THERE WHEN DEALING WITH LIARS. fACTS ARE FOR NON MUSLIMS THAT HAVE AQUIRED THEM OVER 14 CENTURYS, FACTS ARE THOSE WHO BEING MURDERED EVERYDAY BY MUSLIMS Fact is you hts just an instruction book you have to take litterally or face hell fire. I SAID I KNOW MUSLIMS LOL AND THATS A FACT SON!
Its really hard to debate with someone just spewing out claims. These so called facts are all lies, and would you kindly address me to the sources of what you claim?
@Leaf2812 Look, its simple, i live amoung ALOT of muslims, i have a mosque not 900 yards away from where i live. All these muslims are horrible people. LIARS, scum. I don't need a news report to know this as a fact as i have seen what they do when there is no film crew around ok. I don't like muslims. Now its my choice to not like muslims as i see them for what they truly are. All artound the world, where th there are problems, AND THAT IS A FACT EVEN YOU CANNOT DENY!
@FindingIslam Firstable,it's a major thing to have friends whatever the religion they practice, I AM A Muslim and IM PROUD of being it. The prophet muhammad (saws) had a jew neighbor and he said once:"anyone that harms my neighbor it's like if he harm me" so all these things are false, a true muslim has always in mind that everyone is equal! and GOD bless u all my brothers!
atheist believe no such thing as god or religion n its all fake, so why do u PREACH and have FAITH in ur such beliefs, spreading it ?? rather atheism is UR RELIGION and science is YOUR god u stupid atheists
@mameloche you talk about islam as being illogical when its the most logical religion in the world it contains facts that we have only recently discovered.
@mameloche why r u hear, ur jsut a lowlfie ur self thats why everything to u is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz cuse u wouldnt be here in the first place stop preaching ur religion of athiesm and ur god science
@iloveafg123 in fact i have read the quran itself , and its not logical at all , far from it , little novels of the 8th century couldnt be ..... anyways try to improve english also ... u talk like an 8th century student in first grade ....
@tothboy01 And I suppose you're yet another atheist/agnost/secular humanist who's too busy trying to discredit morality so that he can get back to having a good night out and waking up to hangovers. Why don't you take your naive mind and jump off a cliff ( which would be the rational thing to do considering you believe you miserable existence has no purpose).
Brainwashing of religion at work again here. This guy could be rambling on about the people whom Zeus favours and what you need to do to be deified and be lead to Mount Olympus, and it would sound as equally retarded and silly as the nonsense spewing from his mouth. Religon, in the 21st century: epic fail. Oh, and at 0:08 he is actually saying that there are four homosexuals and a few seconds later that he wants to do something to them with his finger.
my ancestors were from s.arabia lol
MCconsolegamer 1 day ago
may allah almighty help us to do the right, may he 4gv us our sins,n may he accepts us to serve islam in really best way,aamenn summa ameen
ss2010707 2 days ago
kermit the frog?
uzibeatbox 3 days ago
CowLunch....ALL the prophets before WERE ALL MUSLIMS!! They had no name for their religon, BUT THEY ALL TAUGHT THE SAME ONE THING, BELIEF IN ONE GOD This includes, Moses,Abraham, Noah, Jesus....The religon was PERFECTED WHEN MUHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON HIM was THE LAST MESSANGER. Thank you :)
number5ful 4 days ago
@number5ful Bullshit. No real prophet of God ever mentioned, Allah, Mecca, Kaaba, praying five times a day, kissing the black stone, Ramadan, Jinn's or Jihad.
Muhammad created Islam for his own ends. It elevated him from common war lord, thief and paedophile to God like status among the greedy and wicked that flocked to HIS religion.
ManInControI 3 days ago
@ManInControI all prophets are all muslims different times and books just gave different namings from juddism to christianity and now islam if you know what your talking about you would know as a muslim we are required to believe in all of those religions+prophet ibraheem was the first one to build mecca with his son , not muhammad pilgrimage was always there kissing the black stone isn't a must it's favorable cuz its a piece of heaven+christians and jews both fast as well but its
alatharrii 1 day ago
@ManInControI but its not called the month of ramadhan cuz they do it differently, however same basis! Allah is a single name it's not wrong to call him god since it means the same in another language+ praying has been in every religion why is it a nonsense when muslims do it? & jinn are another world but they do exist they have lives religions and everything a human has Muhammad did not create islam hes only a MESSENGER! please know what the hell you talk about before you say it!
alatharrii 1 day ago
@alatharrii Bullshit..lol Abraham and his sons never set foot in Mecca....Your Islam is just pagan cult, it has ne connection to Judaism and Christianity what so ever...and you cannot prove otherwise
ManInControI 13 hours ago
@ManInControI Ironically bullshit is what you said.... When your very own intellects praise that man, you got a problem..... keep bitching its amusing how ignorant yet confident you guys can be...
fuadjalil 21 hours ago
@fuadjalil Who are “my very own intellects” ?
What intellect could praise a man who killed raped stole and had sex with a 12 year old girl?
Muhammad was a fraud.
Islam is false
And your Allah is nothing but a Pagan idol, with all the power and authority of a turd
ManInControI 13 hours ago
If you are a higher status do your ancestors get upgraded? What if they were not Muslim? Do they still get upgraded? Like your Great-Great-Great Grandfather (the one who was never Muslim), where is he?
CowLunch 5 days ago
its funny kuz i was thinking the same thing, wondering what my ancestors where like when they first accepted Islam
unleashedr 5 days ago
Mashallah what sense of humor
kareem0824 1 week ago
beautiful!!
007raad 1 week ago
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Does anyone know why Muhammed was a Pedophile, and why he teaches muslims how to keep slaves and beat their wives???
KillinDaWelfareMCs 1 week ago
(Bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim) Say, "0 you disbelievers! I worship not that which you worship. Nor will you worship that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping. Nor will you worship that which I worship. To you be your religion, and to me my religion." Sura 109 Al-Kafirun.
AjdinCerenic 1 week ago 11
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@AjdinCerenic This IS the TRUTH: quran demands muslims to kill.Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57). You must be ignorant to have faith in a religion and a man that teaches to kill in the name of GOD(ALLAH).muhamad's way was and still is"ISLEM TESLIM."By the Sword. Read sura 9:29 “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, Muslim’s make every effort to suppress any who claim to follow the Bible. Check your quran
33heis 6 days ago
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Dear Bro, what about 72 virgins on top of your earthly wives and 300 boys? This is what revealed to your prophet Muhammad right? He was a sex maniac, we can see this in his wild fantasy.
Shame on you to follow such a sinner and word came out of his mouth.
TheCommandModule 1 week ago
@TheCommandModule no accusation of point is made without an evidence my friend-
show me an evidence please bro and we will clarify.
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peace
Exshinrasoldier 1 week ago
@ambarmalik you need to know something about Islam before commenting.
There are basically two duty for a muslim. Duty to his Creator and Duty to the creation. You don't want to know the facts, do you?
alamin141 1 week ago
Toot much religion has pickled your brain bro? Can you point me to a Islamic video which is talking about helping anyone in need...instead of talking shit all the time.
ambarmalik 1 week ago
@ambarmalik yes, as many as you want, but for a start /watch?v=mK5McYWUoVs. You get everything you search for, so can you please not waste your 15 seconds writing stupid coments but just write "Islam teaches helping poor people" instead of "Islam barks shit" on the search bar?
sjjumani 1 week ago
Is there a mosque in the Vetican?
ambarmalik 1 week ago
and jack climbed the beanstalk :)
sparkiNeuron 1 week ago
4 categories and they are dividable in LEVELS. So.. a heaven with apartheid. Nice! Stupid fucking imbeciles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
focusontheargument 1 week ago
What the crap is this nutcase talkin about...?
GeoCoppens 1 week ago
@GeoCoppens hahaha
hp11208 1 week ago
at least this man realizes his ancestors were Hindus, now he should also realize there were subject to torture and subjugation before they converted to Islam.
MrRajesh1983 1 week ago
@MrRajesh1983 shut the fuck up and live with it bastard, My grand dad converted to Islam and he wasnt forced to
sjjumani 1 week ago
@sjjumani I see you've shown your "peacefull" side again, ALL MUSLIMS ARE FORCED TO BE. Only the weak choose to be muslims.
theHatchett1 1 week ago
@theHatchett1 what do you mean by "weak"?
AjdinCerenic 1 week ago
@AjdinCerenic You know......
theHatchett1 1 week ago
@theHatchett1 No I don't, would you explain it for me please?
AjdinCerenic 1 week ago
@AjdinCerenic Only weak minded people will believe in islam.
theHatchett1 1 week ago
@theHatchett1 You said that already, but you still haven't explained what you mean by weak or weak-minded. I'm Muslim, how am I weak or weak-minded
AjdinCerenic 1 week ago
@AjdinCerenic You are weak as you believe in the quran, you are weak as you believe in a man who, if he was alive today would certainly get the death penalty. You are weak as you cannot see that. YOU ARE WEAKMINDED.,
theHatchett1 1 week ago
@theHatchett1 So basically i'm weak because I believe in worshipping one God, doing good deeds, giving to charity, praying, being patient, being honest and being honorable. I guess it's also weak to believe in the afterlife and to follow a prophet who was called "the honest one" by people who were not even his followers. To believe in the prophethood of a man who was illiterate and today is the most influential person of all time. If you knew me you would never call me weak. Alhamdulillah!
AjdinCerenic 1 week ago 11
@AjdinCerenic What a load of crap! How many orphans in islamic countrys? How many murders of christians? How much hate for jews? What islamic country is nice without western help and engineering? Of course you are weak! Your self proclaimed "prophet" was nothing more than a scumbag peado, warmongering sex addict! Shakespear hsa been more influential than mohammed any day of the week! Now fuck off!! hahahaha cunt!
theHatchett1 1 week ago
@theHatchett1 did shakespear had over 1.6 b of fellow, come on!. The jews don't trust christians at all, and see their book what they says about them and their brutality. The jews were slaughtering by you guys in europe while they being protected in muslims land, look the jews stories in spain. We don't hate jews but we hate israel. No wander you preachers get humiliated when they debate Muslim scholars. At these level of ignorance we can says bye-bye to which religion you follow.
ahmrou82 1 week ago
@ahmrou82 muslim scholars!!! hahahahahaha my sides please!! hahahahahaha
theHatchett1 1 week ago
@theHatchett1 Does it make you feel like a tough guy to spew ignorance and insult people's religion over the computer? Does your hatred make your love for your faith stronger? Insults and name calling from behind a computer is a coward move. All you prove in your arguments is that you're an ignorant coward.
AjdinCerenic 1 week ago
@AjdinCerenic Aawwww bless ya boy, the most ignorant, intollerent, vile religion in all historys calling someone else ignorant and coward lmao
theHatchett1 1 week ago
@sjjumani be patient and ignore the evil they are trying to bring out of you. Sometimes silence is worth way better to talk to an ignorant person. The way I see it is that if both sides are persistent, then both sides are at loss(waste of time).
M2ariman 1 week ago
@MrRajesh1983 Chance is his ancestors belonged to tortured, subjugated lowest class of Hinduism, and THATS why they converted? Have a nice day!
focusontheargument 1 week ago
Someone answer this please. So We will get elevated in Jannah if we had family who were better than us in this life, and we are ALL children of Adam. So assuming that were all related to at least One prophet, does that mean we will get elevated with them also?
Reeyaz321 1 week ago
This guy could write good stories, he has good imagination.
But he's wasting time speaking mythology.
lokenath123 2 weeks ago
We humans put such importance on ourselves when really we are not important at all.
Religion was written by humans to feed our own ego and I feel sorry for all you people who think something is coming after this life. The only saving grace is that you won't know anything when you die just like you never knew anything before you were born.
There is nothing so just enjoy the one and only life you have and stop wasting your time waiting for the next because it will never come!
MrJoystickid 2 weeks ago
@MrJoystickid That's a good and justified premise, but if Religion was truly written by humans then everything in it is subjective and some of it MUST be flawed, because humans are flawed. So the first question would have to be that the men who have claimed to bring religion from God have to have a reason for their claim or there has to be a justified reason for why that person is claiming religion. On top of this you must state whether religion is bad or good for this world? Then can we only..
ScorpionFilmsINC 2 weeks ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC
Religion is flawed and that's why I don't believe in it.
To attempt to answer your question I will say this one thing, there have been thousands of religions throughout human history but surely enough they either die out or change to suit it's believers. Do you think that muslims today interpret islam the same way muslims a thousand years ago did, I know christians don't. Islam moves the goal posts just like all the other man made religions.
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid Religion is flawed? Maybe so. Then you state that there have been thousands of religions throughout human history but they either die out or change. Very true.
The majority of Muslims DO interpret Islam the same way as 1,400 years ago. Yes there minor differences within the majority, but as a whole it is the same today as before, hence why Muslims are called "barbaric, out of date, strange, ancient" etc.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC
Every belief in the history of man has changed becuase the world has changed, if it really was the word of god there would be no change in interpretation.
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC
Sorry for the short posts it's only giving me 200 characters for some reason.
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC
I'm presuming you're a muslim sorry if you're not. Not one single person on this planet can say 100% that there is or isn't an afterlife but the fact remains that we have no solid verifiable provable evidence for an afterlife so I don't believe there is. The possibilities have been exhausted for the last 200 years at least and that is why there are people like me in the world. I was a believer but after years of questioning I concluded that there is nothing.
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid Again a justified position. no evidence = does not exist. I was also a believer and then I became an agnostic and now I am slowly returning to belief again.
Obviously it is very nearly impossible to get direct evidence of an afterlife. No one has died and returned to tell us if it is true or not.
So what can be done? Well, we can look at the people who claimed to know that there is such a thing like the afterlife...
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC
We have been investigating the "afterlife" for hundreds of years and yet there is no proof of it other than people saying there is one.
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid
So to me this is evidence that there is no afterlife and therefore no such thing as god. Like you said religion is subjective and to me that means people use it...
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid
to suit their own purpose. I do good because I want to not becuase I think I will get a better place in "heaven" which is basically what this video is about.
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid You think there is no afterlife because there is no physical evdience for it.. this is paradoxical, due to the fact that for us to get any physical evdience for an afterlife which means someone needs to die and then come back stating yes there is AND even then there is no physical evidence that is also someone stating it? HOW DO WE GET PHYSCIAL EVDIENCE FOR AN AFTERLIFE? IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? These questions need to be addressed for you to be able to believe in an afterlife ONLY..
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid ...After you get some physical evdience for it.
Please tell me how can we get physical evdience for such areas?
Last two points, people use religion for their own purpose... yes that is very true in some cases, but this does not mean anything, Religion can still be the truth, truth does not change to falsehood if someone uses it negatively, which is of course wrong.
Of course the video is about that... So? you may apparently be able to do good without ANY...
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid incentive or motivation BUT most people on this planet cannot do that, they need incentives they need motivation? This is proven from a child we use operant conditioning, why? Because it is EXTREMELY effective.
I live in the UK and here most people do not do good out of the goodness of their heart. Humans even if they say do. They want something from it and if they get nothing, they do nothing.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid This is why we have hunger and people dying from starvation, this is why we have people getting killed everywhere, this is why we have gang crime, drugs, trafficking , this is why parents run away from their responsibility of looking after their child, people do not do good because they are magically all angels inside, this is not practical and it does not occur in reality.
People will act selfishly unless told it is wrong.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid You may do good and that is fine, i commend you for being a great human being, but unless this is the case with the majority (and it is not) this argument does not hold any validity.
Religion however corrupt, evil, barbaric, old school you want to call it has boundaries so people do not cause corruption in society.
"As to those who believe and work righteous deeds, they have, for their entertainment, the Gardens of paradise" (18:107).
Peace be upon you.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid Again this relies on physical evdience alone and takes NOTHING else into account.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid Once you understand, interpret, analyse, research and observe the person (or people) who brought these claims you can start building up a reason to believe in what that person stated.
If person A states that Belief A is true. Then Person B should question the person who brings such a claim. Physical evdience may not be the only criteria for evidence. What about the reputation of the person, the mental health, the history, the actions, the way other people interacted with him etc.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC
Even the most sane person is fallible and can have no real evidence for a belief system other than saying "I believe it becuase I want to believe it"
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid Again this assumes that physical evidence is the only reasonable justification to believe in something, which I do not believe is the case, with good reason. We believe in a few things without having ANY physical evdience for it. So physical evidence may not be the only reasonable justification to believe in something?
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC
This doesn't give said belief any solid ground regardless of who the person is. I would love there to be an afterlife but that doesn't mean there is one.
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid Yes it does. If the said person always tells the truth, is nicknamed the "trustworthy", is respected, is wealthy honoured in his society, he is living the "high life" and then suddenly for a mysterious reason (which does not make sense, as there is always a reason to do something) starts teaching people about such mysterious things then the persons credibility, the respect he holds has to taken into account...
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid If someone goes from being loved and honoured, wealthy etc to being abused, insulted and boycotted for stating a few beliefs (one being the afterlife) and STILL continues to teach it without any swaying. Psychologically this needs to be addressed, why did such a person continue? Even when he was offered anything he wanted? Was the man insane? Was the man lying? Was the man doing it for power? Or was he telling the truth, there are your options and one has to be true...
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC Come off it. Muhammad’s story is that of every cult leader who ever lived, from Charles Manson to Joseph Smith. You get the same elevation of the cult leader, the same claims to persecution, the same sense of difference between the faithful and the rest, the same fanaticism.
We’ve seen it a thousand times, and we’ve heard the crummy little rationalisations that go with it a thousand times.
NevilleRhysBarnes 1 week ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes I didn't want to start accusing you of ignorance as you seemed to know a bit, but it seems you are ignorant. That response is one of the more ignorant i have heard. Before i even respond to anything, have you read the life of Muhammad with respected sources?
The point is you cannot claim anything like you did, unless you have the basic and broad knowledge of the topic.
I gave you 4 possible reasons of why Muhammad did what he did and you MUST respond to each with a...
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC Sorry i thought you were the other guy i was discussing this issue with, But you are not, but still it is ignorance to bring up such comparisons and the rest is applicable to you.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes reasonable response to claim what you have claimed. I already have stated EVERYONE does something for a reason (or reasons). I stated Muhammad had to be insane or a pathological liar or wanted personal gain or all of the above OR he was telling the truth. Every single one of those cannot be true, you did not respond to any and just stated "Come off it. Muhammad’s story is that of every cult leader who ever lived, from Charles Manson to Joseph Smith...
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes And as soon as you mentioned those two names, you lost all creditability.
Charles Manson??? Are you really comparing Muhammad to Charles Manson? Please for the sake of your dignity refrain from such idiotic comparisons.
But unlike your response i will give you a few reasons why this comparison is idiotic.
1. Charles Mason has had NO effect on the world today (excluding the poor families who lost their loved ones)...
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes 2. Charles Manson described himself as a 'bad man who shoots people'.
3. He had VERY small support.
4. As a youngster BEFORE any brainwashing occurred he robbed many times.
5. He was imprisoned and was found out he held a blade to a child's throat and raped the little boy while doing so.
I think that is enough to get the picture for now. The early life of Charles is a clear indication, he had nothing going for him and was just a bit loopy in the head.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes Now Joseph Smith being compared to Muhammad.
1. Even his loyal followers disagree about the implications of his teaching.
2. No one ever saw anything amazing from Joseph and only took what he said as revelation because he said.
3. He did not defend his revelations or give reasons for belief.
4. He could not always get a revelation when he needed one.
5. Occasionally engaged in fraudulent activities in order to preach God's word more effectively...
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes So the the comparison between Muhammad to Charles and Joseph are nonsensical.
The rest is you just trying to justify your claim. So there is no need to go into that, as i have already responded to the initial claim.
again i state and ask you, which one was Muhammad, one of these must be true.
1. An insane person?
2. A pathological liar?
3. A person trying to gain money, women, honour?
4. Was really telling the truth?
Please point out to me which one.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC You are being disingenuous. I didn’t draw direct comparisons with either Smith or Manson (although Muhammad meets at least three of the characteristics you attribute to Smith). The point is that Islam started as a cult with all the typifying characteristics of a cult. I could just as easily have cited Osho of the Rajneesh, David Koresh, or dozens of others.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes You implied it quite clearly,
Muhammad (pbuh) meets at least 3 of the characteristics? Which ones?
you keep mentioning "cult" leaders and implying that Muhammad was just that a leader who started a cult. With no evdience, no sources, nothing.
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC Muhammad was almost certainly mentally ill at some level, as the hallucinations he experienced testify. (What, Allah could not find some more direct, less hokey and confused way of communicating with mankind?) He and Khadijah rationalised his hallucinations as being divine, leading to the initial formation of the cult. As is typical of such cults it was at this stage mostly peopled by the disaffected and marginalised.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes Ahhh, Mentally ill, The age old cliché, Muhammad was just mental! No. the evidence is against such notion.
I am assuming the mental illness you speak of is schizophrenia. And Muhammad's history does not match current characteristics of this illness. You could claim that his initial "revelation" was an hallucination BUT then you have to explain his life before that and after that. No "hallucinations" before the age of 40? Did people around him also have illnesses...?
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes Did the whole of Arabia have an illness at the same time? Thing is history suggests that either every person around Muhammad some how caught this "plague of schizophrenia" or NONE of them were ill. you have to pick one and then give evidence for it.
Muhammad himself stated "Am i going mad?" Khadijah replied "No... You are good to people, God would not do that you..." And then she took him to her uncle who knew about revelations and the like.
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes The VERY FACT THAT MUHAMMAD even asked that question, questions the notion of schizophrenia. Khadijah's uncle believed it was a revelation.
People before Muhammad even reached the age of 40, stated various things bout him, Bahria the Monk being one, before Muhammad even had any "hallucination" Were they also plagued by this illness?
In those days, people with a mental illness would be "cursed" and isolated because they were some sort of devil...
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes Yet this did not happen... in fact when people questioned MUHAMMAD'S ENEMIES about Him, they would not say he was mental, because they knew the behaviour of one who is mad. Yet even his enemies could not 100% state he was insane.
All this plus much much more clearly suggests it was not a mental illness, rather it was something else....
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC A characteristic of such cults is that the followers are highly motivated to elevate the leader—they are desperate for him to have supernatural answers, and it takes a very brave and honest man to turn away adulation and admit fallibility, a test that Muhammad fails. This feedback loop increases both the leader’s mystique and the followers’ fanaticism.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes This is all PLAIN CLAIMS without ANY evdience from history.
Muhammad always stated fallibility, always stated he had limits, his followers knew and He knew because he told them. He even went on to "curse" The Jews and the Christians for there fanaticism of Jesus and other Prophets, he stated NEVER make me a statue or a worship me or a picture of me etc.
He never lived like a king, or had much money, when Muhammad died all he had left was a shield, a small bit of land...
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes and a Mule. A leaders life as clearly given in history is usually much more luxurious than that. He stated many times he did not desire the material goods, Umar (ra) one of his companions even cried asking him "Ceaser has gold and big house and you have nothing".
It is against the very core of a cult leader to not live to the fullest.
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC It is this fanaticism—Muhammad’s obsession with polytheism, plus his extreme ways of expressing it, such as ringing a warning bell just so he could have a captive audience—that made Mohammad so repulsive to Meccan society. If he was persecuted then, frankly, he probably deserved it.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes ???? Well this makes no sense. What extreme way did he express it in? All he did was warn the Arabs, nothing more, They got up and killed Muslims for it and boycotted Muslims and made them leave Mecca, their homeland.
He deserved it? Well this is the exact same ideology the west has today, us Muslims innocent or whatever deserve to be prosecuted because lets face it we are Muslims.
He came "repulsive" to the CHIEFS of the Quraish because it went against their forefathers..
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes way of life, not because somehow he was in the wrong.
The Quran says "are you going to follow your forefathers, even if they were in the wrong?"
Muhammad stopped the practice of burying the daughters alive, a massive change and of course they were going to hate him for that. JUST LIKE ANY LEADER WHO FIGHTS FOR JUSTICE OR GOOD IS HATED BY THE EVIL. They couldn't accept what he was saying, however true... so they fought him...
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC The next development typical of a cult is that, as they see themselves as special and above ordinary morality, they start to make their own rules. We see this in the raids on camel trains after the move to Yathrib. At this point Muhammad also dispenses with the sexual mores of his time, firstly by marrying Aisha, and later by giving himself special permission to marry more than four wives. Note that Osho, David Koresh, Smith and Manson were all sexually self-indulgence.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes " the raids on camel trains after the move to Yathrib" I don't know how much you have read, but as state before the Muslims were forced to migrate from Mecca with little of their belongings to a new place. Some Muslims went to Ethiopia for protection. The only way for the Muslims to survive was to raid on caravans which had goods in them that they would sell to live... It seems it;s the same with Non Muslims they wanted the Muslims to die early on...
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes so they shouldn't have raided caravans of the people who threw them out with nothing to live, they shouldn't have fought the Arabs even though they wanted the Muslims dead. It's the same... Muslims... you can't fight back, but others are allowed. Double standards.
"firstly by marrying Ayesha", You fail to mention that he was with Khadijah only until she died and Ayesha was NOT HIS CHOICE. You don;t mention this stuff, but re-write the same arguments that others have stated..
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes It's old. Ayesha (ra) was a woman's choice after She said to Muhammad "it's been time since Khadijah died, you should re-marry" And Muhammad asked her "who do you think of?" AND THE WOMEN ADVISED HIM TO MARRY "Ayesha or another woman", Nothing of Muhammad's "secret doings".
Giving himself permission to marry 9 wives? Firstly do you know the circumstances of why he married them? Secondly, so what? That does not somehow make him mental or a liar.
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes you are drawn into Muhammad's married life like voyagers. So many claim this, but the lessons and reasons behind it are not your voyager fantasy.
You pick and choose parts of Muhammad's life, "look at this" "omg look at that", when you fail to understand the reasons, the context, the wisdom and the right for him to do so in any case.
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC The convenient way revelations come just when Muhammad needed them—e.g. justifying the caravan raids during a sacred month—is also hypocrisy. (Aisha herself commented on this convenience.) This is so blatant that one would have to have contempt for one’s followers to even try it. Muhammad had clearly reached the point where he could sell anything he wanted to his followers.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes Caravan raids again.. already replied too. They had to, as they had little belongings and Muhammad had a responsibility to look after the people. It would be stupid to just sit around in the desert waiting for help when your own people forced you out.
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC However, non-followers were a big problem. The way he singled out and executed critics could be seen as immense egotism, but it may also have stemmed from insecurity. Muhammad was probably terrified of having his bluff called and his mystique undermined, hence his violent response to critics, and why he suddenly gets “revelations” undermining the arguments of the Jews and Christians (who certainly knew far more about theology than did he).
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes again, no evidence just empty claims, It is clear this far in that you have not read much of the history, if any. His OWN CRITICS tried their best to call him "mad" at points, "a poet" at points, a "devil, magician" at points, BUT none after they thought about it stood, because they knew their arguments did not hold any substance.
Jews and Christians knew more? Muhammad answered all their questions without ever going to their books and reading. they accepted his answers...
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes They were happy with his answers and now 1400 years later, a guy on Youtube is saying otherwise, doesn't really hold water does it?
They asked him about very specific events and he answered them all. Christians themselves (Wariqah, Bahria, Salman) saw the signs of his Prophethood before he had EVEN SPOKEN TO THEM. Or maybe they were also ill right?
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC However, another important psychological development comes about during the battles with the Meccans. In common with many warlords, from Genghis Khan to Hitler, Muhammad experienced the heady taste of military success, and I suspect became addicted. (I cannot comment on Muhammad’s qualities as a military leader; this lies outside my expertise.) Such figures literally do not know when to stop—only death puts an end to their ambitions.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes ??? No evidence yet again. Muhammad had to fight in battles because the harsh tribal desert environment was not a gentle one, Muhammad built his own state with his companions in Yathrib and fought back and HE HAD FULL RIGHT TO DO SO. No one would ever say you have NO right to fight for your home, for you life, for your family etc. So stop this double standard.
Don;t know when to stop? what about when marched into Mecca with 10,000 people and NOT one person was killed...
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes In what historical figure do you see that? This again goes against your argument, Muhammad could have lead to a slaughter of the Arabs in Mecca but he said "FROM TODAY YOU CAN ACCEPT ISLAM OR GO FROM MECCA BUT YOU WILL NOT BE HARMED" And then he gave his famous against racism speech.
The simple fact is, the Muslims fought back and won and it annoys you that this could happen, it annoyed the Arabs that it happened, but they had the right to fight.
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC In conclusion I have no hesitation in assessing Muhammad as being to some degree mentally ill, as being a cult leader with all the psychological traps that entails, as becoming cynical and hypocritical with regard to his followers, to whom he handed the most incredible tosh, and of being deeply fearful of anyone who threatened to blow his cover. Lastly, I suspect him of having an addiction to conquest and violence that carried him through to the end of his life.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes No evidence... just empty claims.
ScorpionFilmsINC 11 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC I’m not saying anything that isn’t obvious to an outside observer. The pattern of behaviour is so blatant that frankly you have to be either a starry-eyed new convert or brainwashed not to see it. Mohammad’s real nature is clear, in spite of all the myth and propaganda surrounding the man: a cult leader whose religion took off; a violent warlord who got lucky.
NevilleRhysBarnes 6 days ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes In conclusion...
1. Every claim you made had no evidence, it was all your view on Muhammad with no background information.
2. Muhammad could not have been ill, because then others around him were also ill in this mysterious "plague of schizophrenia".
Your claims are that he was a mental, war loving, sexual liar. But when looking at evidence and using LOGIC we come to know this cannot be the case.
"We have sent You with the truth, as a bearer of glad tidings and a Warner"
ScorpionFilmsINC 10 hours ago
@ScorpionFilmsINC
In the case of the persons reputation being called into play then by the same token that means we must believe aliens visit earth on a regular basis.
MrJoystickid 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid All these points should be taken into consideration when exploring such things. Physical evidence is the BEST possible way of providing evidence, yes. But is it the only justifiable reason to believe in something? I say no.
If a person brings a claim and NO physical evdience can be given at this point, we can justify our belief in what the person is saying as true, by knowing the person who brought the initial claim.
ScorpionFilmsINC 1 week ago
@MrJoystickid .. start discussing whether religion is man made or not. And then after that can we only start discussing whether this is the only life or not. You start from the basics and go forward, you cannot claim there is nothing until the possibilities have been exhausted fully. And i know it is the duty of the believer to give evidence for such a belief and that is completely true. But you cannot 100% with certainty state "there is nothing and there is only one life".
ScorpionFilmsINC 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1 So maybe you live in a really shit area. I can't blame your opinion in that case. But where you live cannot be generalised to the whole world. What you're saying are definitely not facts
missyattitude07 2 weeks ago
@missyattitude07 I've moved out to a really nice area now as my son was being exposed to islam at school, he's 4! The fact that muslims are killing, raping, mutilating, eating (congo) all over the world is proof enough for me. When a church can be built next to mekka, and they can intergrate peacefully, without fear of christians, and obey our laws, then i will accept islam as an equal, untill then i'm readyt for the war they all preach in the mosques all over england.
theHatchett1 1 week ago
@theHatchett1 Church in Mecca? That depends on if Saudi Arabia is allowed to become a secular liberal democracy. I dont think your states (USA & EU) would want that. Then again, why would Saudi Arabia become a secular liberal democracy, only because u are? That doesnt make sense. Have a nice day and fuck u!
focusontheargument 1 week ago
@focusontheargument Bend over son, your imam wants to know how tight you are, my comment holds firm while you squirm, oh and fuck you too cunt!
theHatchett1 1 week ago
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@theHatchett1 I dont have any imams. How about that? Ur comment is just as irrelevant as ur ad hominem frenzy.
focusontheargument 1 week ago
@kazk924 Will she be 9 yrs old?
FindingIslam 2 weeks ago
@FindingIslam
What is your problem?
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 If muslims are so peacefull, why is there always murder rape and exicutions throughout all of islamic history and still to this very day?
No peace in islam and never will be.
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
Are there not rape and murder in USA? Whats your point?
My point is that Islam does not allow it, you come with examples of some idiots that dont want to live by the rules.
I never claimed all muslims are angels, but certainly those who try and live with the set rules are peaceful.
Your arguments are worth nothing in a debate, so please come with some real info or just keep your stupid opinions to yourself.
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 Don't try to pull wool over our wide open eyes. All muslims claim islam is of peace when, in fact every islamic country is killing non muslims and especially christians all over the world, sudan, ejypt, africa, syria, you name it. So if you can't answer its fine. It just proves you have to answer by pointing at the west lol so you have no answer....
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
What is your problem? Don't you know theres corruption in the so called islamic contries? Haven't you seen the news on how we are fighting against the governments?
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 Yes you are fighting against the govnmnts but look at who's replacing them? Far worse people and i don't need the news thankyou, i live amoung muslims and know very well thanks!!!
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
You are really deluded, just watch egypt as an example:
/watch?v=AqXfZTgOCOE
The christians are protecting the muslims, why when 'we would attack them after the prayer'?
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 We see you. nothing you can say will will ever be true, all lies and deceit. nothing more
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
Fine, if thats how you want to live your life then be free to.
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 Yes, thats the beauty of the west, and exactly why you all run away from your countrys to live with us. But remember one thing. Us Europeans have fought for centurys to have the freedoms you and me alike cherish. And we will fight to keep them.
Take heed in what i say.
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
You will quickly realise that it was the west who supported these corrupt leaders. You are nothing more than a orientalist, in the postcolonialism sense.
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 LOL really? sorry, i'm not brainwashed bye.......
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
Have I said you were brainwashed? I told you that these opinions you mark here are the exact same way of thinking that orientalist have.
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 Your thoughts mean nothing to me at all now BYE!!! lol
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
Then why come with a lousy comment as that? Seems like I'm correct, since you don't really have anything to support your demonized views
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 WOW!! hahahahahaha case in point! clearly proven thank you for showing me just how foolish muslims really are. I mean how you got there is remarkable hahaha. Don't delued yourself any further. Join the human race and get away from islam as fast as you can. while you still have atleast ONE brain cell hahahaha. unbelievable! lmao
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
Ehm, fact is you have not provided me with ANY proof. Fact is, I disproved all other arguments given before. Fact is you still think you somehow won the debate that never happened, because you've only come with claims (as you most sure have heard on anti islamic sites, which never provides you with full context).
If you want to debate, bring your arguments
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 oH PURLEAZE! LOL FactS ARE NIETHER HERE NOR THERE WHEN DEALING WITH LIARS. fACTS ARE FOR NON MUSLIMS THAT HAVE AQUIRED THEM OVER 14 CENTURYS, FACTS ARE THOSE WHO BEING MURDERED EVERYDAY BY MUSLIMS Fact is you hts just an instruction book you have to take litterally or face hell fire. I SAID I KNOW MUSLIMS LOL AND THATS A FACT SON!
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
Its really hard to debate with someone just spewing out claims. These so called facts are all lies, and would you kindly address me to the sources of what you claim?
If you cannot, why are you making such claims?
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 Look, its simple, i live amoung ALOT of muslims, i have a mosque not 900 yards away from where i live. All these muslims are horrible people. LIARS, scum. I don't need a news report to know this as a fact as i have seen what they do when there is no film crew around ok. I don't like muslims. Now its my choice to not like muslims as i see them for what they truly are. All artound the world, where th there are problems, AND THAT IS A FACT EVEN YOU CANNOT DENY!
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1
So its just a personal opinion of yours, based on the thug muslims living in your area? I live in Denmark and we too have such thug muslims.
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812
But, base your opinion on islam and not how some thug muslims do. Islam teaches honesty to ALL humans (not only towards muslims).
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 Islam teaches you to be kind towards those who are kind to you.
This is common knowledge.
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812
If you want to know what we are teached, please look up this verse in the Quran, surah 60 verse 8.
These liar muslims should repent for what they have done.
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@FindingIslam Firstable,it's a major thing to have friends whatever the religion they practice, I AM A Muslim and IM PROUD of being it. The prophet muhammad (saws) had a jew neighbor and he said once:"anyone that harms my neighbor it's like if he harm me" so all these things are false, a true muslim has always in mind that everyone is equal! and GOD bless u all my brothers!
MrBehbahani95 2 weeks ago
Lets hope all muslims are this brainwashed..... Oh sorry of course they are hahahahahaha
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
@theHatchett1 How are he brainwashed?
Leaf2812 2 weeks ago
@Leaf2812 Case in point Hahahahaha
theHatchett1 2 weeks ago
did he said Adin??
Dazidan 2 weeks ago
atheist believe no such thing as god or religion n its all fake, so why do u PREACH and have FAITH in ur such beliefs, spreading it ?? rather atheism is UR RELIGION and science is YOUR god u stupid atheists
iloveafg123 2 weeks ago
by the way there is no such hell , heaven and whatever , its made up by religion to control people , countries , populations .... bullshit
mameloche 2 weeks ago
@mameloche so what happens to you when u die?
galelo11 2 weeks ago
@galelo11 after your death or et the moment you die?
TheNadiatoen 2 weeks ago
@galelo11 *at
TheNadiatoen 2 weeks ago
its incredible how people can just believe in man made things , illogical and made up .... and boring to death ..... zzzzzzzzzzz
mameloche 2 weeks ago
@mameloche you talk about islam as being illogical when its the most logical religion in the world it contains facts that we have only recently discovered.
sawu101 2 weeks ago
@sawu101 lol ... your too funny and i want your shisha cause its very strong .... please give ...
mameloche 6 days ago
@mameloche why r u hear, ur jsut a lowlfie ur self thats why everything to u is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz cuse u wouldnt be here in the first place stop preaching ur religion of athiesm and ur god science
iloveafg123 2 weeks ago
@iloveafg123 in fact i have read the quran itself , and its not logical at all , far from it , little novels of the 8th century couldnt be ..... anyways try to improve english also ... u talk like an 8th century student in first grade ....
mameloche 6 days ago
What if the father is in hell? Who gets reunited with whom?
Sharukkin 2 weeks ago
@Sharukkin A son who has been given syafa'at by Allah can help the father :D
Dazidan 2 weeks ago
@tothboy01 And I suppose you're yet another atheist/agnost/secular humanist who's too busy trying to discredit morality so that he can get back to having a good night out and waking up to hangovers. Why don't you take your naive mind and jump off a cliff ( which would be the rational thing to do considering you believe you miserable existence has no purpose).
Spined1234 2 weeks ago
Rightiousness leads you to Janna and not Just ordinary belief as others claim.
julio14335 2 weeks ago
funny guy
nachdehasdeh 2 weeks ago
Brainwashing of religion at work again here. This guy could be rambling on about the people whom Zeus favours and what you need to do to be deified and be lead to Mount Olympus, and it would sound as equally retarded and silly as the nonsense spewing from his mouth. Religon, in the 21st century: epic fail. Oh, and at 0:08 he is actually saying that there are four homosexuals and a few seconds later that he wants to do something to them with his finger.
tothboy01 2 weeks ago
@tothboy01 what trash
pizi87 2 weeks ago