Germany's War - Hitler's last army (1/4)

[spareaxe]

Germans were good at killing jews, gypsies, and pow's but, got an ass whipping from other armies.

[steelbeltsdrumming]

Does anyone know what village this is beginning at 0:32?

[bess1953]

What a waste of lives!

If Hitler couldn't win,he wanted to destroy Germany,and he did!

Congratulations to the modern Germans who have faced up to their past!

Germany has always had great culture.

Never again,to a regime like this.

[ButtHurtGrub]

@bess1953 Hitler hated everyone. as proven by his "Nero Decree"

[giuseppeRraimondo]

Men's bullet is the same as that of a child, but they always make it look like not

[ronpaulfreedom1]

Wake up its right here in america..Only ron Paul will make the nessasary changes to get our consitution back..or do u really think those Fema Camps are for your Luxery?.Ask those that lived through Katrina..many starved to desth as fema looked on..many were shot trying to cross the bridge to food and water..Non Violent Prisoners were executed..This was under bushes watch..now we have Pharoh Obama and america is still believing the Propoganda media ..Wake up..We are next !!!

[fluffy1931]

@ronpaulfreedom1 lol,..adjust your tinfoil hats wingnuts.

[befranklintoo]

this is the past,the europe union was the destiny.get it right yoyoyoyoyoyoyy.

[Weedus2]

The Guy who made this "Documentary" has no good Name under real Historians,even hes a German he makes more Anti-German Propaganda Documentarys than anyone else.Im intrested how he do his english Language Documentarys,In the german Documentarys he cut words from different speaches to full new sentences !!

[werkzeug0]

Expected to see a German point of view not a standard british or american propaganda

[Weedus2]

@werkzeug0 Guido Knopps view is no German Point of View,he earns his Money by making dozens and dozens of "Hitler was a big Criminal " Documentaries.To ensure its shown on the official 1 TV Station he must make alot of anti Hitler Propaganda in it.

When he reports about somethng he explains all things negative for Germany and dont loose 1 Word about all positive things for Germany or things who let look Allied Troops evil

I always say Sefton Delmer was his History Teacher

[BIytheisGreat]

Stalin is less evil because he sought to eliminate people who he found as a threat to his power. Hitler killed and persecuted people because he felt them inferior. This is a whole new level of malice.

[Samseal16]

@BIytheisGreat Look at stalins bodycount then you will rethink that comment

[Nhosto]

@BIytheisGreat Hitler killed people because he labelled them to be the "enemy of the race", Stalin did the same for the "enemy of the class". There is no difference between their reasons for killing people.

[RyanBrooksby]

@Nhosto

Stalin killed people because he was a paranoid, pathetic man. Yes, he industrialized USSR. In fact, no, he didn't. He left them with Atom bombs.

The living went up under Gorbachov, not this Stalin twat.

Hitler killed people, solely for the purpose of their race. Stalin killed because they threatened his power. (such as great purge)

[hilletehnoob]

@BIytheisGreat how ridiculous and brainwashed u are

[silver760]

Churchills constant shouting of "I want a WAR!!" and utter hatred of the Germans WW2 could have been avoided.If someone with a clear mind not a one track war mongerer had read ALL the intelligence on Stalin and Hitler,even a half brained halfwit would have realised that Stalin was the enemy NOT Hitler.Britains monarchy is German for starters,also Stalin had killed millions before Hitler even considered "The final solution".WC's bungling destroyed Europe and led to 50 years of Nuclear cold war.

[silver760]

@silver760 WC obsession for a war cost Europe 50 million lives and gave half of the Europe to Stalin,Poland didn't see independence until 1991.WC and his obsession for war could have destroyed this planet if the preceding cold war ever went hot.Hitler never wanted to fight Britain and said so hundreds of times,WC started the mass bombing of cities.Whoever gave Churchill power in WW2 was an idiot,he proved himself a dangerous fool many times previously,his disaster at Gallipoli proved that.

[coolsoeb]

@silver760 What are you talking about? Churchill became the leader of the United Kingdom into the already existing war. He saw that hitler did not keep his promises (chamberlain made him promise not to make anymore claims, after taking czechoslovakia) and he knew that Hitler must have been eliminated in order to promote peace within Europe once again. Hitler's regime was known for it's crimes even within their own country as it brutally beat it's jewish citizens and harrased them.

[kratan21]

@coolsoeb Ask the Soviets occupied Europe on this story to "ensure the freedom of Europe," simply marketing.

[shortist2003]

@silver760  Yes! Fuck Churchill.

[Ranillon]

@silver760 A fan of Pat Buchanan's ahistorical screed, eh? Well, all "WC" did was warn of an all too real menace -- and somehow you want to blame him for the horrific crimes of the Nazis as if somehow they were force into it??? What, are you going to argue that the murder victim was to blame for his death and not his murderer? While Churchill was hardly perfect he was absolutely right about Hitler. Stalin's crimes are a separate issue entirely and no excuse for what the Nazis did!

[liljgoneman]

@silver760 you should be proud. That's the dumbest shit i've ever read and i read ALOT. So, at least your tops in that regard. Otherwise, you're a babbling moron and i wouldn't cross the street to piss in your mouth if your fuckin guts were afire. Fuckin pinhead.

[Toddsky86]

Is it possible hitler was slightly insane?

[dergnom]

@trupoed

And Stalin was a murder, not a Patriot.

did u hear about gulags?

[dergnom]

@trupoed11

Russia has enough Neo-Nazis and they are more brutal than here in Germany. And if u think that most/all Germans are Nazis, u can also say that all russians are Nazis ( argument: for example your comment)

So think about it.

[hailtheswastika1996]

the russians destroyed the nazi but did it helped???? no ofcourse not look at russia now and you will see very much nazi's and skinheads

[trupoed11]

@hailtheswastika1996 Russia for Russians not fucking nazi germans/ glory to Stalin, he was real Russian patriot!

[lusitanium1]

excelent doc!



[SayNoToTheism]

Brave German men stood their ground and made the Russians fight hard for every single inch of land they took and gave Europe just enough time to save it from being totally conquered by the Soviets. Greatest heroes in human history and yet we're taught in school that all Germans were evil and worthy or ridicule, not even the soldiers are exempt from defamation.

[HenryDavidT]

@SayNoToTheism You got it backward. The Germans WERE totally conquered. It's the Russians who were saved by the skin of their teeth. Thanks to Hitler.

#1, If Hitler had been bright enough to have moved up the ranks, after WW I, he'd NOT have made the various MAJOR & erroneous decisions he did, at the beginning.

Or, later,

#2, if he HAD allowed experienced front line generals to make necessary TACTICAL decisions, the Germans would've taken BOTH Stalingrad & Moscow. Easily.

[HenryDavidT]

There're many horrible decisions Hitler made. I'll name 2-3:

#1. Why invade Poland (& draw in England & France), when the wheat & oil fields of Russia were the things Hitler had wanted in the first place?

#2. If he'd put someone competent in charge of the Luftwaffe & NOT Goering, 2-3 extra, persistent months & England's RAF would've been totally decimated.

#3. He WASTED over 500K German soldiers & thousands of tons of equipment & oil in N. Africa & Italy for absolutely NOTHING.

[HenryDavidT]

Not having committed any or all of the 4 horrible decisions mentioned may still NOT be enough for Germany to win, since the USA would eventually enter the War.

But any 1 of the 4 things, alone, would've allowed Hilter an additional 1-2 years of fighting capability, by which time his V-2, jet, & tank programs would've matured enough to dominate all theatres of War...

'Tis NOT to say Germany should've won! THAT would've been a nightmare for everyone on earth, except German Nazis.

[baruteku]

@HenryDavidT

ad1. Look at the map..... What stands between Germany and Russia. (It is Poland indeed). Making deal with Polend was not impossible (Do you seriously think that country being reborn after 123 years of division between Germany, Russia and Austro-Hungary will let GERMANS through???) Ahh. And look at the map from 1939 when Poland had most of todays Ukraine and Belarus land in it.

[HenryDavidT]

@baruteku If Hitler had gone straight for Stalin, Hitler would have had 5M-8M soldiers & at least 95% of all his planes, tanks, & heavy equipments to play with.

Poland would NOT have been much of an issue, then or later, if Hitler had defeated Stalin.

Even with 1/3 of his soldiers & planes, tanks, & heavy equipments tied up on the Western front, with about 1/5 of everything tied up in the Italian-N.Africa front, Hitler almost defeated Stalin (harsh Russian winter didn't help).

[baruteku]

@HenryDavidT Ad 2. It was Actually Hitler that ordered Goering to shift from destroing remains of RAF on Airfields to bombing London and other cities. That gave RAF Fighter Command the breathing room. Also they could just sit and wait for bombers around the cities. Also by staing near bombers fighters lost their momentum and speed. and of course the range of 109s. I just wander what would actually happen when invation of Britain actually took place.

[baruteku]

@HenryDavidT Ok. just a quickflash. WHAT WAS EXACTLY THE WAR WITH LIBIA ABOUT????? If you say to help innocent rebels let me remind you that about 70% of Italain and Spanish OIL came from that country. To get hold of it totally you had to get rid of competition. (British from Egypt in this case). Primarly it was Italian war but as it quickly appeared they were useless in doing it so he had to invest some men and resources from Germany. And he idolised Mussolini as well. So he had to help him.

[jackzero99]

@baruteku The Libyan oil wasn't discovered until 1959. There was no reason for the Germans to be in North Africa except to help Mussolini recapture the lands of the old Roman Empire.

[adgw1423]

@HenryDavidT

1. You have to get through Poland to get to Russia.

2. Yes, Goering was a clown.

3. The point of North Africa was to get the Suez Canal and strangle the British.

[HenryDavidT]

@adgw1423 Actually, you don't have to go through Poland to get to Stalin. There are at least 3 equally workable ways, without touching Poland (1939):

PARTICULARLY true when you KNOW England & France already indicated they CONSIDERED invading Poland an act of war in which they are OBLIGED to enter on behalf of Poland! How absolutely stupid is that, even if you don't think much of neither France nor England, with your REAL objective being in the EAST ultimately?

Here, the 3 ways:

[HenryDavidT]

4 routes to comrade Stalin, actually, & none touching Poland:

#1: via Finland, if he wants Lenningrad/St. Petersburg, first, then Moscow.

#2: via Denmark-Norway-Sweden-Finland.

#3: Or simply march from E. Prussia, cutting through tiny Lithuania, Latvia, & Estonia.

But route #4 makes the most sense:

Hitler wants the vast oil & fertile wheat fields, north of the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea. And Austria-Hungry, Yugoslavia, & Romania are ALREADY his to do as he pleases!

[HenryDavidT]

So, then, again:

If Hitler were of a higher military calibre -- w/ experience in tactical & strategic MILITARY decisions --- he'd NOT have invaded Poland. OR, once he did invade Poland, drawing in both France & England, he would have LEFT comrade Stalin alone (until he beat the Brits, to avoid 2 full wars on 2 different fronts)!

Nor should he have touched the Italian-N. Africa activities, beyond lipservice to El Duce. Those were total waste of manpower & resources for Germany.

[mickeypopa]

@HenryDavidT

He had no choice, Russia would get involved sooner or later, and so would USA.

Hitler knew that. That's why he tried to defeat Russia as fast as possible in order to become untouchable, hence the Blitzkrieg. Considering all his enemies, that was his only chance. He almost succeeded too. Luckily, "almost" wasn't good enough. After that, once the Germans were bogged down in a long trench warfare, it was only a matter of time when the Germany would fall.

[HenryDavidT]

@mickeypopa The point was not to argue whether the US & Russia would've eventually gotten involved; of course they would, because Hitler, Italy, & Japan wanted to conquer the whole world, among the three.

Rather, it is that if Hitler had been a brighter fella (or even just a higher ranked officer in the army, w/ experience of having to plan major battles), he would've either NOT invaded Poland or, once he did, would have STUCK to making sure he defeated England, too, before turning east.

[HenryDavidT]

In his mind, England, Belgium, France, Italy, etc. had Africa. He NEEDED Russia's vast land, oil, gas, minerals & wheat fields.

The point is -- & 'is purely academic -- Hitler could've given himself 2-3 additional years and, by THEN, he'd have perfected the jet (sky dominance), the V2s, tanks, & would've stockpiled enough weapons.

If Hitler had engaged in just one war at a time, he'd easily won. Even with 250K soldiers in the south, 1.5M in the west, & only 3M in the east, he ALMOST won.

[HenryDavidT]

When Churchill made that speech of "We shall fight on the beach... in the street... on the hills... We shall never give up," England was hanging on by the skin of its teeth, w/ no more than 300-400 good fighter jets left. Hitler still had 2-3,000 fighter jets.

The only thing that saved those last 3-400 jets from being ALL shot down was the radar English had. But even that'd not have saved them, if that big fat idiot Goering had persisted engaging w/ the Brits in dog-fighting for 2 more months!

[mickeypopa]

@HenryDavidT

Of course, but then again, you disapprove and approve of Hitler's tactics at the same time.

You can't do both.

If anything, Hitler shouldn't have engaged Britain AT ALL, but focused all his efforts to the East.

I agree about the Africa though. Africa Korps have literally guzzled the oil needed for Russia campaign and failed, not to mention 3-way offensive in Russia itself.

Had Hitler concentrated his force, it would be an entirely different matter.

That we can agree on.

[HenryDavidT]

@mickeypopa "... If anything, Hitler shouldn't have engaged Britain AT ALL, but focused all his efforts to the East..."

I think a few posts before this that's exactly what I said, too. And invading Poland was the path to HAVING had to engage England.

France and England ALREADY warned Hitler (after having allowed him to annex virtually all the lands adjacent to Germany) invading Poland would oblige them to go to war against Germany (again, like WWI).

[HenryDavidT]

Powerful nations usually OVER-estimate their capability. Good example: Germany circa 1940. Invading Poland caused a chain reaction that ultimately doomed Germany & the Germans.

Even though 70 years have passed, I still shed tears, a total stranger, upon seeing the utter, total defeat & submission of the Germans, in 1945, where 100s of 1000s of women & young girls raped, & 11M of German men in POW camps, every town in ruins, & starvation & freezing rampant from 1945 to around '47...

[HenryDavidT]

And, then, when the cobwebs are cleared from my mind, I realize that Germans were also the very people who started out killing --- in a SYSMTEMATIC manner --- their very own people, starting with the Liberals, Communists, Socialists, Jews, & mentally & physically handicapped... and only a few individual Germans stood up and spoke out & MOST of those were soon permanently silenced, too.

And then they went out and devastated the lives of tens of millions around them.

[silver760]

@HenryDavidT Those that didn't like the way Germany was being run had years to leave after Hitler came to power.Those that refused to leave were the ones that had to be physically removed.Hitler bit by bit made their lives more and more difficult in the hope they would leave rather than have to physically remove them.Thats more than Stalin ever did,he just rounded them up and either sent them to the Gulag or shot them.Millions more than Hitler ever "killed".

[HenryDavidT]

@silver760 True & false. A few people like Mann, Einstein, et al could leave and left.

But not the average Germans like Liberals, Socialists, Communists, Gypsies, leftist students like the Scholl siblings who simply didn't agree with Hitler's "Aryan" policies. They may not be in the millions; but they're at least in the hundreds of thousands.

And, besides, it's their country, too. Where were they supposed to "go"? France? Austria? Belgium? England? the USA?  Norway? China?

[coolsoeb]

@silver760 First of all where do you expect people who at the time were GERMAN CITIZENS, to go? Why should they abandon their homes since they are as much of a citizen as their neighboor. Before Hitler's regime Germany was one of the most open places in Europe (even more than western places like France). What hitler did was state that german citizens should be deprived of their rights. This is something which was very unusual as even Jewish citizens before that had high ranking jobs

[shortist2003]

@silver760 In addition, Solzhenitsyn wrote that 66 million Russians died in the gulag system from the start of the Bolshevik regime until 1959. Another 10 million Ukrainians were starved to death in the Holodomor. The communists stirred a revolt and took Bavaria, just affair Lenin, Trotsky and their cadre took Russia. I do not suppose Germany desired the same end as so many in Russia. This was all Jewish inspired and Jew-led mass murder. And the US and UK allied themselves with it.

[mickeypopa]

@HenryDavidT

If I may add, you seem to have a rather mature attitude talking about this subject.

I like having a reasonable discussion on Youtube, which seem quite scarce these days given all the arrogant, ignorant kids spewing their nonsense at anyone over 20 years of age.

Cheers :)

[Phene1986]

get shat on by the ruskis.

[devilcruiser]

@ 13:44 i thought it was Putins grandpa.. :)

[tharleyify]

The Red Army was crazy. When you look at the casualty figure's it's frightening.

What i should of said is that the political leadership of the Red Army was crazy.

[HenryDavidT]

@tharleyify That's exactly what that strong-willed Soviet anti-tank soldier, Umar Burkhanov said.

Very few soldiers --- in the USA, in the Soviets [especially in the Soviets!] --- speak honestly of their superiors. I found this guy's demeanor and words honest, intelligent, and reflective.

It shows, unlike most soldiers, he has a moral compass (from a young age) that allows him to see things, situations, & people critically, regardless of the present & demanding situation...

[HenryDavidT]

Umar's also funny.

In another interview, he recounted the story of himself being only 21 --- foolishly, in retrospect, he said [because he knows the older guy could have shot him: helping the enemy can get you shot those days] --- having to demand, being a bit higher ranked, an older "red-headed, ugly as hell" Russian soldier of 40 to let go of a terrified & crying young German girl the old guy had brought in & meaning to rape (I presume this was in Berlin, last days of the war).

[tharleyify]

@Zauberkessel13 Your corporal's dead boy, go & ask your mum. Hello from England.

[RebelSonBand]

@clovenrick So the dug-in AAs+inf.positions further up the hill was totally untouched by arty.A terrible fact about the German evauction of 1st line is,that not all inf was moved away.Low quality inf,such as Volkssturm,East-"volunteers",H­ungaryn troops,was left in the line..To hold positions so the line was not totally exposed to an Russian inf attack.The arty was among the heaviest attack during the war,the 1st line troops was just about wiped out.Not much fight let in the poor souls. :)

[RebelSonBand]

@clovenrick we have panzer moving in colum-like formation up the hill-without any serious inf.support.Besides this,the Germans had actually succesfully guessed the date of the attack and move just about all inf from the first trenches back to 2nd trench--this combined with the fact that Zhulov concentrated all arty on 1st trench only,meaning not moving the arty further back German on 2nd and 3rd trenches too,spelled disaster.All arty on 1 massive attack on 1st line,instead of a"moveing"barrage..

[RebelSonBand]

@clovenrick You are right..Another think that Zhukov admitted was under-estimating the steepness of the hills..Zhukov would useally take alook around a battlefield to see the terraine personally but not at Seelow.This resultet in tanks not being able to climb the wet+muddy hills and was forced into the few paths,up the hill.The Germans,brilliant+expericended soldiers,had ofc placed well-hidden AA guns to counter any tank moving up these paths.So we have inf.blinded at the foot of the hills and

[MrROTD]

I read Zhukov's book it was interesting.