WTC 7 Blown Up, watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&feature=bulletin. Dont forget WTC 7 was one of the most secure buildings in America. Nobody can just walk into it a plant explosives.
Please watch this film, from 1500 engineers who build these buildings. Dont listen to anybody who comments. (even me). Just take a look at the queries of 911. This film is very important for you to decide either way. These people ARE the experts
7) Hows does a plane crash without leaving ANY identifiable wreckage, no boddies, baggage, anything. (NEVER HAPPENS 8) In the plane wreckage at the Pentagon, why is the engine fins shown next to firefighter, not belonging to the "official plane"
Truthers are idiots and liars. WTC7 fell in approx 16-18 seconds. The full footage of the collapse, timed from the moment the East Penthouse falls, is at least 16 seconds. Nathan's shitty clip at the end of this video only times the perimeter collapse and even then he stops the count before the collapse is finished! Do you really think everyone can't see what you did there Nathan? You're such a moron and this vid and dsglop's really made you look stupid! You're an embarrassment.
@terrymanning1 perhaps you should go take an engineering degree and perhaps comment afterwards. I like many THOUSANDS of engineers would disagree with you.
@RICHLES01 Well if you're an engineer who supports the WTC demo crap then you are in the extreme minority of engineers worldwide. Perhaps you're one of Richard Gage's lies for profit group? Maybe you're happy to lie about 9/11 because you're an anti-war protester trying to force a new investigation to get Bush in the dock? Or maybe you're just an idiot.
@terrymanning1 I could come down to your mentality and start calling you an idiot, narrow minded but i wont. I obviously have more going on, so I will try and communicate on your level which appears quite low. Minority I agree with, its only when the engineer looks at the facts which are well..obvious,... that they question the so called facts. I am nothing to do with any group, I am merely an engineer with qualifications which do cover this issue. All we want is another investigation. simple
@RICHLES01 You want a new investigation because you despise GWB and the war on terror. Simple. You have zero evidence or facts to prove an inside job so you and other morons like you will continue to lie for ever more. Get over it. You failed. Actually no. You morons EPIC FAILED! lmfao at you truther scum.
@terrymanning1 I forgot to mention, Im quite chilled about this, GWB was just a puppet and he will be judged one day. One day their will be justice. I just love it when knobs like you lose it... really funny... its what happens when people of a very low inteligence cant argue without insulting.. Judgement is coming...I have plenty of time to wait.... Oooo Truther scum, thats origional. Zero evidence... lol, i could spend days on evidence Troll. You probably play withyourself still LOL. haha
@terrymanning1 GWB, i have nothing against him. He was just a retard who could not string two words together. Democrats, Liberals, makes no difference they are all run by the same banking cartels. Do your homework moron, that must be your name "moron", i have spent 25yrs following this stuff. I love giving special time for "special" people like you. ......... lol bring it on Troll
@RICHLES01@terrymanning1 GWB, i have nothing against him. He was just a retard who could not string two words together. Democrats, Liberals, makes no difference they are all run by the same banking cartels. Do your homework moron, that must be your name "moron", i have spent 25yrs following this stuff. I love giving special time for "special" people like you. ......... lol bring it on Troll
WTC 7 did collapse in 18 seconds. The collapse starts with the East Mechanical Penthouse. It falls completely through the building, it's visible if you watch the entire video. The ONLY period of freefall speed is for 2.5 seconds of a spot on the north face after the internal progressive collapse had already gone through stage 1. 9/11 was an outside job people. Time to grow up.
@Oz1976 still does not answer the question as to why the police said move away from the building as it was going to be blown up. (documented film evidence). Its not time to grow up, its time to look at documented evidence.
@RICHLES01 police said that? really? to who when and where? you're a fucking liar...the FDNY set up a perimeter around WTC 7.
"For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed. "
@Oz1976 Well I suppose i have to talk on your mental level.......your a fucking knob , here is 1 of many links CwjmqkjwnvQ, clearly the officer telling people building going to blow up.
@RICHLES01 BAHAHAHAH the cop does not say the building is going to blow up in that video, the cop is waving people back, the voice is of a firefighter who picked up his video camera once the engineer and spotters they brought in to assess the building had determined it was near critical failure. You're an idiot. Plain and simple. "The building is going to blow up" is coming from someone who is amongst the chaos of the day and is simply relaying the event in common language. Get bent scrub.
@Oz1976 Its quite clear you Moron, its either the firefighter or the policeman stating move back the building is going to Blow Up. Sorry you prick but average jo would not be directing the public to move away. One day the likes of you will be sorry, hundreds of thousands of people are waking up to this, its only time. To many things wrong with the story. More money spent on clintons blowjob than on the towers investigation. Time is running out for people like you.
@RICHLES01 It's a firefighter who was documenting the event, I said that you mongoloid. He was relaying what it was going to be like, he never said there were bombs. You're a fucking dumbass period. There were no bombs.
Time is running out? Shit I heard that in 2004 son, it's 2011...10 years of truth movement idiocy, bumbling and failure because they have zero evidence and zero facts. The time is running out for YOU dumb fuck. Truthers around the globe are realizing their stupidity.
@Oz1976 Listen time is running out for you, cock suckers like you who drink of their mamas tits are going to be sorry, your just another dumb ass knob head who thinks its all ok. All im saying is, i dont believe the official story as its all lies. So you know better than the experts .... you know jack shit. I find it funny that tossers like you get angry.... I would be angry if i was you, id probably hang myself. People are waking up on mass. Your going to be shafted like every one else........
@RICHLES01 Were you there that day? no? Ok...I was in NY that day and can point you to many Firefighters as well that were there that day. It was fucking chaos...saying "that one's going to blow up next"....does not mean "dudes we're bringing this one down next with super secret bombs we had these guys go plant in there"...and then before the building come down.....nothing....no bombs going off...no sequenced charges. Not one video with anything even remotely resembling CD. You're an idiot.
@Oz1976 listen carefully, as you seem to be retarded. you must be retarded right. I am a highly qualified engineer with over 30yrs of working in the gas and oil industry. Its no good preaching to me, because i wont be converted from thinking that the whole thing is one big scam. To many things wrong with official story. Your not just an village idiot, but a retarded mongol who plays with lego and dribbles. I like any many thousands are waking up to the truth 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. FACT.
@RICHLES01 Ah you're a liar too...highly qualified engineer...mhm from what university did you attend...gas and oil eh? Yeah that has alot to do with F=ma huh? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 911 was an outside job. And you're a liar and an idiot.
Oz1976 as if i need to explain myself to you. im not going "To sell my soul and lie", just to justify myself to a knob like you. 911 was an INSIDE JOB, period. Even the US miltary are becoming aware of whats going on....the reason they are now being classed as a threat upon return home from the war zones. Everyone who reads this go research yourselves, start at ae911 truth. follow the reasoning and make up your own minds. As for you Oz, heres a bone, go lie back in the corner liar and idiot lol
@RICHLES01 No it wasn't, and you're a liar and an idiot. ROFL ae911truth is a profiteering scam for DICK Gage to sail around the world and sip martini's poolside at luxurious resorts. You want REAL truth, FUCK ae911truth. org, go to ae911truth.info...or bastison.net (translate from french - even the french think you CT nutjobs are retarded.) or comprehend REAL science and engineering at (heiwaco.tripod. com/blgb.pdf) = "What Did and Did Not Cause the Collapse...." < published in a REAL journal
@Oz1976 Yea yea, whatever you think. Why have they BANNED first responders, Police, Fire and Medics from the aniversary at ground zero. To many people are aware of the big scam. Your a Liar and Idiot. Why is returning VETS from the war zones now classed and labelled as a potential threat. Come on answer some proper questions, or are you some Troll who can only call people idiots and morons........unfortunately it seems like you fit the bill of these descriptions. AE911 for truth.
@RICHLES01 funny, my buddies from ladder 1 and engine company 7 are going to be there, they're not banned, guess they're in on it eh? dumb fucking liar.
@RICHLES01 Also your government sponsored CNN and FOX new reported on just that, first responders will be banned from ground zero. Your a fuckin Troll and your not from the fire service. Most firemen also dont believe the official story either. Cunts like you who try and squash the truth will be judged one day. Did it happen......who knows, just an overwhelming request from many many tens of thousands of people who want a proper independent investigation........... your still a little prick
@Oz1976 Dont try and put words in my mouth, He did say move away that building is going to blow up. quite clear, and it quite clear your an idiot for believing the murdering scum Bush. Another false flag operation. Your a TRAITOR to the US people. oh and a spastic mongol idiot...................prick
@Oz1976 Your a fucking traitor and a twat. Go suck Bushes balls, you knob sucking prick. Your government works for the banks and your going to be shafted like anyone else. Its on many records that the US carries out false flag ops. 911 was an inside job and bush was just another mindless puppet for the banking cartels. blah blah.... you best go and run along and sleep with your sister you inbred faggot
@RICHLES01 911 was an outside job. You're an idiot. Plain and simple. Nice colorful language there. Mad? Angry Little Boy syndrome....equivalent to small dick syndrome....napolean syndrome....etc etc...clearly you're quite paranoid and delusional. Must suck to live in your world where everyone's out ta get ya... fucking tool.
@Oz1976 colorful language.... no just plain English, speaking on your level. . I'm not paranoid, infact im quite chilled out. Its nice just knowing that one day its all going to come out. Thousands of people are waking up to it every day, I don't really give a shit what pricks like you think, i actually find it funny that its you who seems angry, I 'm quite confident in myself, perhaps it you who's got the maggot tiddler. My world is good, actually fantastic,.... you little maggot boy
@RICHLES01 Yes thousands of people ARE waking up everyday. They're waking up to the fact that they've been scammed by the likes of David Ray Griffin, Alex Jones, Steven Jones, Judy Woods, the Loose Change crew, and Dick Gage. More and more TWOOFERS, are becoming REALISTS, a major leader of the UK Truth group The Love Police, has mended his ways, hundreds of truthers coming to grips with the idiocy they've spewed over the last ten years. It's over, you're a dwindling minority. It's reality retard
@Oz1976 well the figures dont show that do they!. Alex Jones show has grown and is one of the most listened to shows in America, and internet viewings world wide are also vastly increasing month on month. Ron Paul is also supressed with the mainstream media, and is now winning many polls. Its you who's the retard, actually you still dont answer any questions, even Hilary Clinton knows she is losing the war on information lol. My comments are based on fact and not idiotic dribble from you
@Oz1976 1) Why was WTC7 not in the official report, 2) Why are 6 out the 10 authors of the report now stating report wrong. 3) Why did the BBC report building failure before it happened 40mins later. 4)How did cell phones work in the flight that crashed into field, technology not available then. Boeing declines comments 5) How does a 165ft plane only cause 16ft hole in pentagon, each engine weighs 5 tonnes x 500mph = NO ENGINE IMPACT ??. 6) Why was NORAD stood down on that day for identical exc.
@RICHLES01 1) because WTC 7 was not hit by either plane and was not a focus of the attack which is what the 911 commission report was mandated to discover, wtc 7 was not part of their mandate DUH. 2) Um, no they aren't, post source or stfu. 3) because they were told it was going to collapse, it's called miscommunication during a day of chaos. 4) they were Air Phones, the cell phones only worked once the altitudes had dropped below 1200 feet. look up Airphone dumbass. 5+6) you're a moron
@Oz1976 5 and 6 "Your a Moron" , what about 7. Hahaha, cant you answer those questions. Everyone had use of an Airphone,....talking through your backside. No 2 is well documented...go look up prick...................
@RICHLES01 You're dumb, those aircraft had airphones on them, as you idiot twooftards would say..."do the research". But I know you're too lazy and can only regurgitate what you're told, so here's a link for you dumbass...
(jetphotos. net/viewphoto. php?id=35569) (remove the spaces since I know you're too dumb to realize it) Looky what are in those seatbacks....hmm...idiot. As for #7 you're still a moron, every site had wreckage idiot.
@Oz1976 On a interview with a first responder, "No evidence of a plane crash, no baggage, blood, bodies or anything to show a plane had crashed into the ground". Photo of Fireman at Pentagon standing next to a piece of jet engine---- Which does not belong to the official plane. Interview at flight 93 so called site watch?v=RJOlwcJ6OkA&feature=related. Your talking bollocks about airphones, calls to 911 were from so called CELL PHONES you moron. (Technology 2004 onwards) Your a still a prick.
@Oz1976 Putting the insults aside, \You say its Black, I say its white, you show me a video, i show you one. In my eyes, looking at ALL the evidence, things just dont seem right. This is why this matter is not going away until a proper investigation is carried out and full detailed report is given on queries raised by many proff. people..Why did the report not look at WTC 7, and surely they would have wanted to see if any explosives were used. I will be the first to put my hands up if i am wrong
@RICHLES01 In your eyes, then you are blind. There were plenty of investigations. The commission report didn't touch WTC 7 because that was not their mandate, WTC 7 collapsed due to fire induced from debris crashing into it from WTC 1's collapse. The building was empty and no one died inside of it. THAT is why. It was not part of the attack, it was collateral damage. WTC 7 was not demo'ed. You don't understand the NIST report or the model, just admit it.
@Oz1976 Ok, me any many many thousands of people are blind then. Unfortunately the NIST report had a very small budget and did not cover enough of the situation. I dont see any time soon a AE 911 for the official story. Sorry but i just dont buy into your thoughts.
@RICHLES01 ae911truth has 1500 signatorees on their shitty petition. Do you know how many architects there are, EMPLOYED, in the United States alone? 140,000. Do you know how many Engineers ther are, EMPLOYED, in the United States alone? 1.5 MILLION! Do the math. ae911truth represents less than 1/10th of 1 PER CENT of the Architects and Engineers IN THE US ALONE (much less worldwide). Oh, and 4 of those "architects" are LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. it's an argument from authority scam dude!
@Oz1976, well im glad, another 140,000 will wake up also. I dont know why people like you are so defensive. If you have such a problem, why not prove us all wrong, lets have a new investigation and sort it once and for all. Me.....i dont buy any of it.
@RICHLES01 FYI: we have proved you wrong, you just refuse and hand wave the evidence away. You have no evidence, you're "not buying it" because you're a fucking moron. Plain and simple. Other twooftards are realizing the error of their ways and yet you still are entrenched in this religious nonsense of 911 truth.
@RICHLES01 and for this poll (made by a twooftard): (forums.randi. org/showthread. php?t=218415) 130 people believe in the official story against 4 believe 911 was an inside job.
And this video: youtube.com/watch?v=UULUQfEQFuU (former truther, no longer)
And this thread where 100's of former truthers speak about their idiocy: (forums.randi. org/showthread. php?t=130827)
And this Truther Leader: youtube.com/watch?v=SavpCQlu2GA
@Oz1976 watch?v=uVHuAexB83w, so called intense fire that made the building implode. Not a chance, these fires are burning up materials then going out. Not in a million years did fire bring down WTC 7.
@RICHLES01 LOL you get schooled on the phonecalls and flight 93 and now you're moving the goal posts to WTC 7....come on, get over it, you're wrong. That video is utter nonsense. AE911Truth are charlatans and richard gage is nothing more than a profiteer.
From a former twoofer: youtube.com/watch?v=uFJa9WUy5QI
This is how nutty these conspiracy therorists are! Man, they just rant on and on and still hold to the "old man with kidney failure in a cave who conspired with some boxcutter dudes looking for virgins junk, conspiracy theory that our govmt. gave us.
Breaking news .... Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, the U.S. government insider who said last week that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
Mmm, that damn Building 7! The conspiracy "debunkers" just CAN'T come up with a logical explanation for it, and it drives them CRAZY, lol. It drives them crazy when they try to dismiss any inside job arguments, and then Building 7 gets brought up, because they KNOW that there is no known explanation for it. It's that one bit of evidence that they can't paper over. Deep down, they know that there's something fishy about it, and it irritates them to no end that they can't explain it.
so called 9 11 truth and you will see all the damage to the area surrounding 7 from falling debris. You will see a big hole in 7. You will see the fires inside 7. Those planes really did hit the buildings. The fires and jet fuel really brought them down.
I dont think the govt planned 9/11 but we can all agree they took advantage of it to strip us of our personal liberty and mobility.
"So your saying some secret government agents planted thousands of pounds of explosives through crawlspaces."
I can speculate and note that there was a crawl space between every floor and there was that Elevator modernization going on starting 9 month prior to 9/11. I will also note that the Elevator reno wasn't finished and that company was not there on 9/11 and now is no where to be found.
The Talk Show host is an idiot. How can debris from the other building take out all of the main supports all at the same time yet 5 hours later? And Fire had NOTHING to do with it. Sorry but No. You can't burn down a Metal building with fire. Not to mention that they found forensic evidence in the rubble that proves thermate was used.
"18sec." is a bald face lie.
It is a disgrace how the Truth Movement is treated. They just want to know the Truth for fuksake. Such an Evil world we live in.
Two, many steel framed structures have collapse due to fires alone. A regular house fire can reach temperatures hot enough to weaken steel in three minutes.
Three, that thermitic material in the dust is bullshit. There is zero proof of this. If you know anything about chemical reactions that is easily disproven.
The collapse from the east penthouse to complete collapse is eighteen seconds.
@usindependent50 Just because thats what you have been told doesn't make it true. You can't burn down a metal building with a carbon fire which is what you are told. You believe it because you are an idiot.
A house fire can reach 1200 degrees in three minutes. More than sufficient to weaken steal. The McCormick place metal roof collapsed just like the floors did in the world trade centers. Dogwood Elementary school in Pennsylvania. The Windsor Buildings steel structure collapsed while the concrete core remained.
Look up the Kader Toy Factory and say that the building did not collapse. Are you really being that purposefully ignorant that you wont even look it up..
I said the "steel structure collapsed" Because it did... The concrete core remained however. Thats what you can see. I suggest you watch the video again
I said the "steel structure collapsed" Because it did... The concrete core remained however. Thats what you can see. I suggest you watch the video again
How did a some secret government agency sneak past office employees to plant thousands of pounds of explosives on dozens of columns, after stripping them of concrete, drywall, and fireproofing, without being seen by office employees.
Why would they not just simply place the explosives in the core like any effective demo expert would do.
Why did they detonate the charges seven hours after impact?
@usindependent50 So you have no ideas at all? I mean it can be speculated. Elevator upgrades gives complete access to core columns , the fact that there are crawl spaces between every floor where office workers are not located etc. You have no brains.
You say "why did they detonate the charges seven hours after impact?" There was no impact of a plane hitting building WTC7.
Some of you "debunker" nuts are just absolutely out of your minds.
So your saying some secret government agents planted thousands of pounds of explosives through crawlspaces. They also still need to strip the columns. So your saying some demolition expert is doing all of this in a 33" crawl space?
Then there is explosives being completely silent when the size and shape of charge required would create enough energy to be heard across the Hudson.
@usindependent50 There were explosions heard across the Hudson and smoke at the base of the towers seen as a result. If you study Thermite and observe experiments you will learn that some charges gone wrong can be explosive with audibility. Most are silent. There were forensic studies on the dust and rubble from Ground Zero and Nano Therimte by products were discovered. This proves Thermite of some sort was present. There should be no such discovery if the Official story were true.
@usindependent50 There were explosions heard across the Hudson and smoke at the base of the towers seen as a result. If you study Thermite and observe experiments you will learn that some charges gone wrong can be explosive with audibility. Most are silent. There were forensic studies on the dust and rubble from Ground Zero and Nano Therimte by products were discovered. This proves Thermite of some sort was present. There should be no such discovery if the Official story were true.
The only moron here is the Host.If he wasn't so afraid of real evidence he might shut the *%@# up and listen to it instead of shooting his moronic mouth off. American media insanity as usual.Boring!
@DeepSpace8andahalf The difference between 13 and 10 is 3 seconds. What is going on there? A building falling due to damage and fire. Nothing more to it.
@DeepSpace8andahalf Once you do the proper research you can see that the building was structurally compromised. Combine this with the location of the fires, what was fuelling the fires, and the building design, and collapse was inevitable.
The fact is that people who have advanced degrees in structural engineering have weighed in on this issue and have stated that "collapse" was NOT inevitable!
This is the Elephant in the room, the NAKED emperor or whatever you want to call it, the GOV is lying to the entire world about this! its mind games, and so far, the perpetrators of 9/11/2001 are getting away with it! When do we seek JUSTICE?
@DeepSpace8andahalf Not sure what you've been reading, but the people with an advanced degree in structural engineering who also work in the business say that the collapse WAS inevitable.
And we are seeking justice. They're still out there searching for Osama, and they have captured some of the others involved in the plot to catch America with its pants down.
@Clarrisani The NIST did a "computer simulation" of how WTC7 fell, however they refuse to release their source data for this "simulation" ... also they attribute the collapse to OFFICE FIRES when in fact OFFICE FIRES have never been responsible for complete structural failure of any building.
Not to mention that apparently for THREE buildings that day
Chaotic damage = Coherent "collapse" ... whats up with that?
@DeepSpace8andahalf Firstly I suggest you read the recently released NIST findings on the WTC collapse. Secondly, it was not "office fires". I suggest you look into the matter more closely from both sides before jumping to conclusions.
Its becoming harder everyday to support the official story.The fact that those who try resort to straw man tactics,insults and pure rudeness such as this speaks for itself.Why would it be necessary to use such tactics to settle a scientific discrepancy? Why is it ''Important'' to require someone to affirm who was the ''Guy who gave the OK'' in order to agree on the rate of decent of Bldg7? Truth is it doesn't.Fact is you've been had,and your beginning to see it.Been there,guess what?We all have
this fuckin rob breackenridge guy is the biggest scumbag douche i ever heard,,,,,,,,you can tell that he has been instructed by his boss to keep on fuckin chirping about bullshit,,,,,,,,and never once give the caller time to talk,,,,,,,,,fuck him and fuck his boss too,,,,,,,they should go slit thier throats in the mirror so they can watch themselves die!!
And in that comment is a perfect example of a little angry America hating tin foil hat wearing idiot....As a English man I love America but idiots like you just make me want to ....
That isn't a MAN on the phone, it's a TRUTHER MORON.
What kind of fool thinks a giant conspiracy can exist without a bank account, and address, a phone or a paper trail?
It's been NINE years since 2001, and SIX NATIONS have been attacked by AL QUEDA since then. The Arab Jihadists have been attacking the US, since 1968, when the US backed ISRAEL against them.
SEVEN Presidents since Richard Nixon have been attacked, responded militarily, and NOT required a giant conspiracy to do it.
@Merlin5x5 ... hmmm... check out what happened the day before 911. look back at what was announced... about the military 'loosing' several trillion dollars... thats a good place to start
@lightman514 I did, and unlike you, I actually LISTENED to the Rumsfeld speech on 9/10. You know, the part where he spoke of INCOMPATIBLE ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS, not of LOSING MONEY. LOL, it's online here at Youtube, look for yourself. It's a common problem. Small windows accounting applications at the UNIT level, large UNIX accounting systems at the TOP levels. Instead of details, you only get summaries of data. SO, you know you spent a million dollars, but not on what. Get it?
911 is the greatest HOAX in all history. These radio and TV anchor guys are controlled by the shadow government and would be silenced in next to no time if they opened up.
I'll sum up the "truthers" position, "We understand nothing about foreign policy, engineering, aeronautics, terrorism, disaster control, human psyche under stress...but we know more than the experts and we can see through their deception. We are deluded, everyone of our crucial claims has be disproven to have any merit what so ever but we can easily attribute that to those people be in on the conspiracy and it's just the man trying to keep us down, man."
well Nate I don't agree with you on the 9-11 stuff, but man this DJ never shut up. I would have like to hear what you had to say, but man that radio host sucks
What was done on 911 and the cover-up done by the media is beyond me. It is like a nightmare we are going through. This chump dj needs to be held accountable. When you get on the air and start the masters propaganda, cheating us for dollars, he becomes part of the cover-up. He WILL get his just desserts. He is our enemy. Don't be stupid. They laugh at us and bully us. They will pay!!!
@jazzmaster1972 Of what? lol I'm kind of scared of these nuts as well. There is no evidence for the nut job conspiracy. All these people do is use a lack of evidence as evidence for there conspiracy. They say the building free falled....they didn't. They ask why this, why that....as if that is some kind of evidence for bombs and blah blah blah blah
Heat not fire can weaken steel DUMMY i think everybody knows that DUMMY but you need more heat then a few gallons of kerosine, you would be a long time waiting for an rsj to be cut in two if you were to use parafin, i think i would use oxy propane myself, but then again we are all DUMMYS and you know it all, GOBSHITE :-)
a nazi looks like anyone NOT put in endearment camps during WWII - that was only "JAPANEESE LOOKING" people - although we were at war with both the Nazi's and Japs - only JAPS got the benefits of being thrown in Camps - So I guess NOBODY knows what a nazi looks like.
frist of all jetfuel blew up at the start and its only 4/5 karosine and lets just say if you leave your propaine on for hours the crates dont burn does it and 9/11 was burning for an hour so learn your facts you little shrimp your like 5''9 my dick is bigger then you .
this cocksucklnig talk show host is just as fucking stupid as all the other dickheads that think that the buildings werent demoed any fucking body can plainly see thats what happened that the first fucking thing i thought when i saw them come down it aint fucking rocket science and theres a hell of alot of structural engineers and architects that think the same thing and well over 700 of them if all you cocksuckers dont think they were demoed why are they afraid to reopen an investigation??
@blackjerryboymetal - Yeah, I terrorize terrorists - thats why you paranoid dude - 911 was an inside job - get over it - admit it - and remember - TRUTH HURTS.
The host uses the typical tactics of someone who KNOWS he's wrong. He barely gives the caller a chance to speak, and totally misrepresents the facts. No one I know of has EVER claimed the firefighters were in on a conspiracy. Also, if you watch the collapse of building 7, it clearly does not take anywhere close to 15 seconds to fall. It took closer to 6 seconds. The talk show host is a liar and a fraud.
The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence. Further research, investigation, and analyses are needed to resolve this issue. - Guess where that is from - FEMA.
Barry Jennings heard explosions in wtc7 before wtc1 and wtc2 collapsed. and Michael Hess heard explosions.
Jennings:
watch?v=VQY-ksiuwKU
watch?v=kxUj6UgPODo
Hess:
watch?v=BUfiLbXMa64
and they clearly fell at freefall or almost freefall speed, no more than 7 seconds. watch the video and time it. anybody who says otherwise is clearly a biased liar.
That radio show host is awesome. He flat beat that kid in a debate just like that kid wanted. But, uh oh, the host makes some very valid points. So conspiracy theorists label him ignorant and sheep and what not. Fools.
How did he beat him? he didn't even give him a chance to speak and that is not winning a debate.
winning a debate is giving both sides the chance to argue their case and coming to a conclusion without the other side speaking over them at the same time.
all you have here is the host asking him a question and then talking over him and that isn't fair debate, its just complete arrogance and disrespect. and to me he clearly did not win regardless of what any says or thinks.
You're grounding up something I said a month ago. Here's an idea: respond to something that's recent instead of a month old. Dipshit. He gave questions and valid points that the kid couldn't answer. Arrogance? Exasperation is more like it. The kid had already brought up the topic several times. The kid is also immature, ignorant, and pugnacious. He's a troll.
it doesn't matter how long ago it was facts dont change and my point still stands.
no the guy is being arrogant. how can the kid be being arrogant when he isn't even being given a chance to talk to be arrogant? you call that valid points LOL! if you call that valid points and questions then you have got no chance of convincing me of anythin. and he did answer.
and how can you call anyone immature when your calling me names. thats somethin u do when your in primary and kinderguardan.zz!
First, if you could read, you'd see I called the kid in the video immature. Second, if you could spell, you'd know it's "kindergarten". Third, time does matter. Would you smack your dog for shitting on the carpet a month ago? No. I still stand by that statement, but where do you get off reviving old arguments? You don't, so fuck off. Immature? Angered is more accurate. Such foolishness couldn't be stopped by the likes of my valid points because you are, yourself, a fool.
LOL! first of all i can read and i knew u were calling the kid immature, second i dont care if i spelt it wrong, you still understood wot i meant, which is what i was trying to achieve and succeeded in doing. third, time doesn't matter for this because i didn't have that argument with u. and no i wouldnt hit my dog full stop cos im not mean like u. just cos its an old argument to u doesnt mean it is old to me, so what are u on about? and if im a fool why are you angry? LOL!
You're so thickheaded. Can you not understand that I don't care what you say and don't want to talk. Listen, you're like a guy sitting in on a conversation that lasts for 10 minutes and covers multiple topics. After time has expired and the people who were talking have started to leave. Then you come in trying to talk to us on an old topic. Look, I don't know what you want from me, but take your debate somewhere else because I don't want to talk to you; I'm done.
being arrogant or disrespectful doesn't make him wrong though. everything he said was indeed true. the buildings did NOT fall at free fall speed and that's something that's been proven over and over again.
if anyone does anything out of order in the military there will be a court marshall under the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) no one has lost a job for not scrambeling jets to intercept those planes that day. case and point.
stupid fucking truthers!!!!!!!!!!!!
pocomedy 1 week ago
Also, I love how he says "free fall speed"
That is not something that exists.
What he's looking for is "free fall acceleration"
AnonymousElektron 2 weeks ago
WTC 7 Blown Up, watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&feature=bulletin. Dont forget WTC 7 was one of the most secure buildings in America. Nobody can just walk into it a plant explosives.
RICHLES01 4 months ago
Please watch this film, from 1500 engineers who build these buildings. Dont listen to anybody who comments. (even me). Just take a look at the queries of 911. This film is very important for you to decide either way. These people ARE the experts
ae911truth?blend=7&ob=5
RICHLES01 4 months ago
7) Hows does a plane crash without leaving ANY identifiable wreckage, no boddies, baggage, anything. (NEVER HAPPENS 8) In the plane wreckage at the Pentagon, why is the engine fins shown next to firefighter, not belonging to the "official plane"
RICHLES01 4 months ago
Truthers are idiots and liars. WTC7 fell in approx 16-18 seconds. The full footage of the collapse, timed from the moment the East Penthouse falls, is at least 16 seconds. Nathan's shitty clip at the end of this video only times the perimeter collapse and even then he stops the count before the collapse is finished! Do you really think everyone can't see what you did there Nathan? You're such a moron and this vid and dsglop's really made you look stupid! You're an embarrassment.
terrymanning1 6 months ago
Nathan is a twat and all truthers are retarded
terrymanning1 6 months ago
@terrymanning1 perhaps you should go take an engineering degree and perhaps comment afterwards. I like many THOUSANDS of engineers would disagree with you.
RICHLES01 6 months ago
@RICHLES01 Well if you're an engineer who supports the WTC demo crap then you are in the extreme minority of engineers worldwide. Perhaps you're one of Richard Gage's lies for profit group? Maybe you're happy to lie about 9/11 because you're an anti-war protester trying to force a new investigation to get Bush in the dock? Or maybe you're just an idiot.
terrymanning1 6 months ago
@terrymanning1 I could come down to your mentality and start calling you an idiot, narrow minded but i wont. I obviously have more going on, so I will try and communicate on your level which appears quite low. Minority I agree with, its only when the engineer looks at the facts which are well..obvious,... that they question the so called facts. I am nothing to do with any group, I am merely an engineer with qualifications which do cover this issue. All we want is another investigation. simple
RICHLES01 6 months ago
@RICHLES01 You want a new investigation because you despise GWB and the war on terror. Simple. You have zero evidence or facts to prove an inside job so you and other morons like you will continue to lie for ever more. Get over it. You failed. Actually no. You morons EPIC FAILED! lmfao at you truther scum.
terrymanning1 6 months ago
@terrymanning1. GWB hahahah what a joke. Your just a joke as well. Brain dead moron
RICHLES01 6 months ago
@terrymanning1 I forgot to mention, Im quite chilled about this, GWB was just a puppet and he will be judged one day. One day their will be justice. I just love it when knobs like you lose it... really funny... its what happens when people of a very low inteligence cant argue without insulting.. Judgement is coming...I have plenty of time to wait.... Oooo Truther scum, thats origional. Zero evidence... lol, i could spend days on evidence Troll. You probably play withyourself still LOL. haha
RICHLES01 6 months ago
@RICHLES01 Thankyou for proving that you're an idiot and not worth any further debate with.
terrymanning1 6 months ago
@terrymanning1 What debate?, had not even started?
RICHLES01 6 months ago
@terrymanning1 GWB, i have nothing against him. He was just a retard who could not string two words together. Democrats, Liberals, makes no difference they are all run by the same banking cartels. Do your homework moron, that must be your name "moron", i have spent 25yrs following this stuff. I love giving special time for "special" people like you. ......... lol bring it on Troll
RICHLES01 6 months ago
@RICHLES01 @terrymanning1 GWB, i have nothing against him. He was just a retard who could not string two words together. Democrats, Liberals, makes no difference they are all run by the same banking cartels. Do your homework moron, that must be your name "moron", i have spent 25yrs following this stuff. I love giving special time for "special" people like you. ......... lol bring it on Troll
RICHLES01 6 months ago
WTC 7 did collapse in 18 seconds. The collapse starts with the East Mechanical Penthouse. It falls completely through the building, it's visible if you watch the entire video. The ONLY period of freefall speed is for 2.5 seconds of a spot on the north face after the internal progressive collapse had already gone through stage 1. 9/11 was an outside job people. Time to grow up.
Oz1976 7 months ago 2
@Oz1976 still does not answer the question as to why the police said move away from the building as it was going to be blown up. (documented film evidence). Its not time to grow up, its time to look at documented evidence.
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 police said that? really? to who when and where? you're a fucking liar...the FDNY set up a perimeter around WTC 7.
"For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed. "
Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY
Oz1976 5 months ago
@Oz1976 Well I suppose i have to talk on your mental level.......your a fucking knob , here is 1 of many links CwjmqkjwnvQ, clearly the officer telling people building going to blow up.
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 BAHAHAHAH the cop does not say the building is going to blow up in that video, the cop is waving people back, the voice is of a firefighter who picked up his video camera once the engineer and spotters they brought in to assess the building had determined it was near critical failure. You're an idiot. Plain and simple. "The building is going to blow up" is coming from someone who is amongst the chaos of the day and is simply relaying the event in common language. Get bent scrub.
Oz1976 5 months ago
@Oz1976 Its quite clear you Moron, its either the firefighter or the policeman stating move back the building is going to Blow Up. Sorry you prick but average jo would not be directing the public to move away. One day the likes of you will be sorry, hundreds of thousands of people are waking up to this, its only time. To many things wrong with the story. More money spent on clintons blowjob than on the towers investigation. Time is running out for people like you.
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 It's a firefighter who was documenting the event, I said that you mongoloid. He was relaying what it was going to be like, he never said there were bombs. You're a fucking dumbass period. There were no bombs.
Time is running out? Shit I heard that in 2004 son, it's 2011...10 years of truth movement idiocy, bumbling and failure because they have zero evidence and zero facts. The time is running out for YOU dumb fuck. Truthers around the globe are realizing their stupidity.
Oz1976 5 months ago
@Oz1976 Listen time is running out for you, cock suckers like you who drink of their mamas tits are going to be sorry, your just another dumb ass knob head who thinks its all ok. All im saying is, i dont believe the official story as its all lies. So you know better than the experts .... you know jack shit. I find it funny that tossers like you get angry.... I would be angry if i was you, id probably hang myself. People are waking up on mass. Your going to be shafted like every one else........
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@Oz1976 CLEARLY STATES ITS GOING TO BLOW UP, You fucking DEAF
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 Were you there that day? no? Ok...I was in NY that day and can point you to many Firefighters as well that were there that day. It was fucking chaos...saying "that one's going to blow up next"....does not mean "dudes we're bringing this one down next with super secret bombs we had these guys go plant in there"...and then before the building come down.....nothing....no bombs going off...no sequenced charges. Not one video with anything even remotely resembling CD. You're an idiot.
Oz1976 5 months ago
@Oz1976 listen carefully, as you seem to be retarded. you must be retarded right. I am a highly qualified engineer with over 30yrs of working in the gas and oil industry. Its no good preaching to me, because i wont be converted from thinking that the whole thing is one big scam. To many things wrong with official story. Your not just an village idiot, but a retarded mongol who plays with lego and dribbles. I like any many thousands are waking up to the truth 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. FACT.
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 Ah you're a liar too...highly qualified engineer...mhm from what university did you attend...gas and oil eh? Yeah that has alot to do with F=ma huh? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 911 was an outside job. And you're a liar and an idiot.
Oz1976 5 months ago
Oz1976 as if i need to explain myself to you. im not going "To sell my soul and lie", just to justify myself to a knob like you. 911 was an INSIDE JOB, period. Even the US miltary are becoming aware of whats going on....the reason they are now being classed as a threat upon return home from the war zones. Everyone who reads this go research yourselves, start at ae911 truth. follow the reasoning and make up your own minds. As for you Oz, heres a bone, go lie back in the corner liar and idiot lol
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 No it wasn't, and you're a liar and an idiot. ROFL ae911truth is a profiteering scam for DICK Gage to sail around the world and sip martini's poolside at luxurious resorts. You want REAL truth, FUCK ae911truth. org, go to ae911truth.info...or bastison.net (translate from french - even the french think you CT nutjobs are retarded.) or comprehend REAL science and engineering at (heiwaco.tripod. com/blgb.pdf) = "What Did and Did Not Cause the Collapse...." < published in a REAL journal
Oz1976 5 months ago
@Oz1976 Yea yea, whatever you think. Why have they BANNED first responders, Police, Fire and Medics from the aniversary at ground zero. To many people are aware of the big scam. Your a Liar and Idiot. Why is returning VETS from the war zones now classed and labelled as a potential threat. Come on answer some proper questions, or are you some Troll who can only call people idiots and morons........unfortunately it seems like you fit the bill of these descriptions. AE911 for truth.
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 funny, my buddies from ladder 1 and engine company 7 are going to be there, they're not banned, guess they're in on it eh? dumb fucking liar.
Oz1976 5 months ago
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@Oz1976 Your A FUCKING LIAR, you have NO buddies.
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 Also your government sponsored CNN and FOX new reported on just that, first responders will be banned from ground zero. Your a fuckin Troll and your not from the fire service. Most firemen also dont believe the official story either. Cunts like you who try and squash the truth will be judged one day. Did it happen......who knows, just an overwhelming request from many many tens of thousands of people who want a proper independent investigation........... your still a little prick
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@Oz1976 Dont try and put words in my mouth, He did say move away that building is going to blow up. quite clear, and it quite clear your an idiot for believing the murdering scum Bush. Another false flag operation. Your a TRAITOR to the US people. oh and a spastic mongol idiot...................prick
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 You're a fucking moron. Here comes the "traitor" nonsense...you far right whack jobs are classic. Stop watching alex jones you twat.
Oz1976 5 months ago
@Oz1976 Your a fucking traitor and a twat. Go suck Bushes balls, you knob sucking prick. Your government works for the banks and your going to be shafted like anyone else. Its on many records that the US carries out false flag ops. 911 was an inside job and bush was just another mindless puppet for the banking cartels. blah blah.... you best go and run along and sleep with your sister you inbred faggot
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 911 was an outside job. You're an idiot. Plain and simple. Nice colorful language there. Mad? Angry Little Boy syndrome....equivalent to small dick syndrome....napolean syndrome....etc etc...clearly you're quite paranoid and delusional. Must suck to live in your world where everyone's out ta get ya... fucking tool.
Oz1976 5 months ago
@Oz1976 colorful language.... no just plain English, speaking on your level. . I'm not paranoid, infact im quite chilled out. Its nice just knowing that one day its all going to come out. Thousands of people are waking up to it every day, I don't really give a shit what pricks like you think, i actually find it funny that its you who seems angry, I 'm quite confident in myself, perhaps it you who's got the maggot tiddler. My world is good, actually fantastic,.... you little maggot boy
RICHLES01 5 months ago
@RICHLES01 Yes thousands of people ARE waking up everyday. They're waking up to the fact that they've been scammed by the likes of David Ray Griffin, Alex Jones, Steven Jones, Judy Woods, the Loose Change crew, and Dick Gage. More and more TWOOFERS, are becoming REALISTS, a major leader of the UK Truth group The Love Police, has mended his ways, hundreds of truthers coming to grips with the idiocy they've spewed over the last ten years. It's over, you're a dwindling minority. It's reality retard
Oz1976 4 months ago
@Oz1976 well the figures dont show that do they!. Alex Jones show has grown and is one of the most listened to shows in America, and internet viewings world wide are also vastly increasing month on month. Ron Paul is also supressed with the mainstream media, and is now winning many polls. Its you who's the retard, actually you still dont answer any questions, even Hilary Clinton knows she is losing the war on information lol. My comments are based on fact and not idiotic dribble from you
RICHLES01 4 months ago
@Oz1976 1) Why was WTC7 not in the official report, 2) Why are 6 out the 10 authors of the report now stating report wrong. 3) Why did the BBC report building failure before it happened 40mins later. 4)How did cell phones work in the flight that crashed into field, technology not available then. Boeing declines comments 5) How does a 165ft plane only cause 16ft hole in pentagon, each engine weighs 5 tonnes x 500mph = NO ENGINE IMPACT ??. 6) Why was NORAD stood down on that day for identical exc.
RICHLES01 4 months ago
@RICHLES01 1) because WTC 7 was not hit by either plane and was not a focus of the attack which is what the 911 commission report was mandated to discover, wtc 7 was not part of their mandate DUH. 2) Um, no they aren't, post source or stfu. 3) because they were told it was going to collapse, it's called miscommunication during a day of chaos. 4) they were Air Phones, the cell phones only worked once the altitudes had dropped below 1200 feet. look up Airphone dumbass. 5+6) you're a moron
Oz1976 4 months ago
@Oz1976 5 and 6 "Your a Moron" , what about 7. Hahaha, cant you answer those questions. Everyone had use of an Airphone,....talking through your backside. No 2 is well documented...go look up prick...................
RICHLES01 4 months ago
@RICHLES01 You're dumb, those aircraft had airphones on them, as you idiot twooftards would say..."do the research". But I know you're too lazy and can only regurgitate what you're told, so here's a link for you dumbass...
(jetphotos. net/viewphoto. php?id=35569) (remove the spaces since I know you're too dumb to realize it) Looky what are in those seatbacks....hmm...idiot. As for #7 you're still a moron, every site had wreckage idiot.
Oz1976 4 months ago
@Oz1976 On a interview with a first responder, "No evidence of a plane crash, no baggage, blood, bodies or anything to show a plane had crashed into the ground". Photo of Fireman at Pentagon standing next to a piece of jet engine---- Which does not belong to the official plane. Interview at flight 93 so called site watch?v=RJOlwcJ6OkA&feature=related. Your talking bollocks about airphones, calls to 911 were from so called CELL PHONES you moron. (Technology 2004 onwards) Your a still a prick.
RICHLES01 4 months ago
@RICHLES01 Utter lies...
(911myths. com/index.php/American_Airlines_Flight_77)
Oz1976 4 months ago
@Oz1976 Putting the insults aside, \You say its Black, I say its white, you show me a video, i show you one. In my eyes, looking at ALL the evidence, things just dont seem right. This is why this matter is not going away until a proper investigation is carried out and full detailed report is given on queries raised by many proff. people..Why did the report not look at WTC 7, and surely they would have wanted to see if any explosives were used. I will be the first to put my hands up if i am wrong
RICHLES01 4 months ago
@RICHLES01 In your eyes, then you are blind. There were plenty of investigations. The commission report didn't touch WTC 7 because that was not their mandate, WTC 7 collapsed due to fire induced from debris crashing into it from WTC 1's collapse. The building was empty and no one died inside of it. THAT is why. It was not part of the attack, it was collateral damage. WTC 7 was not demo'ed. You don't understand the NIST report or the model, just admit it.
Oz1976 4 months ago
@Oz1976 Ok, me any many many thousands of people are blind then. Unfortunately the NIST report had a very small budget and did not cover enough of the situation. I dont see any time soon a AE 911 for the official story. Sorry but i just dont buy into your thoughts.
RICHLES01 4 months ago
@RICHLES01 ae911truth has 1500 signatorees on their shitty petition. Do you know how many architects there are, EMPLOYED, in the United States alone? 140,000. Do you know how many Engineers ther are, EMPLOYED, in the United States alone? 1.5 MILLION! Do the math. ae911truth represents less than 1/10th of 1 PER CENT of the Architects and Engineers IN THE US ALONE (much less worldwide). Oh, and 4 of those "architects" are LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. it's an argument from authority scam dude!
Oz1976 4 months ago
@Oz1976, well im glad, another 140,000 will wake up also. I dont know why people like you are so defensive. If you have such a problem, why not prove us all wrong, lets have a new investigation and sort it once and for all. Me.....i dont buy any of it.
RICHLES01 4 months ago
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@RICHLES01 FYI: we have proved you wrong, you just refuse and hand wave the evidence away. You have no evidence, you're "not buying it" because you're a fucking moron. Plain and simple. Other twooftards are realizing the error of their ways and yet you still are entrenched in this religious nonsense of 911 truth.
Oz1976 4 months ago
@Oz1976 For this video, thumbs up 63 thumbs down 27, almost equal opinion. interesting don't you think.
RICHLES01 4 months ago
@RICHLES01 and for this poll (made by a twooftard): (forums.randi. org/showthread. php?t=218415) 130 people believe in the official story against 4 believe 911 was an inside job.
And this video: youtube.com/watch?v=UULUQfEQFuU (former truther, no longer)
And this thread where 100's of former truthers speak about their idiocy: (forums.randi. org/showthread. php?t=130827)
And this Truther Leader: youtube.com/watch?v=SavpCQlu2GA
Dylan Avery Recanting: (slate. com/id/2302834)
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Oz1976 4 months ago
@Oz1976 watch?v=uVHuAexB83w, so called intense fire that made the building implode. Not a chance, these fires are burning up materials then going out. Not in a million years did fire bring down WTC 7.
RICHLES01 4 months ago
@RICHLES01 LOL you get schooled on the phonecalls and flight 93 and now you're moving the goal posts to WTC 7....come on, get over it, you're wrong. That video is utter nonsense. AE911Truth are charlatans and richard gage is nothing more than a profiteer.
From a former twoofer: youtube.com/watch?v=uFJa9WUy5QI
youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8
youtube.com/watch?v=5tNhnTBzSyQ
Oz1976 4 months ago
Magical hushaboom technology makes silent explosives. =]
EdgemanLL2 7 months ago
This is how nutty these conspiracy therorists are! Man, they just rant on and on and still hold to the "old man with kidney failure in a cave who conspired with some boxcutter dudes looking for virgins junk, conspiracy theory that our govmt. gave us.
MrBullfrog9876 8 months ago
Breaking news .... Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, the U.S. government insider who said last week that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
52bladesdork 8 months ago
LOL it wasn't free fall speed. Your basing your beliefs on a fallacy. The buildings fell between 15 and 22 seconds lol
theUSER101 9 months ago
THIS TALKSHOW HOST NEEDS A 308. ROUND THRU HIS HEAD.
spencermel 9 months ago
Mmm, that damn Building 7! The conspiracy "debunkers" just CAN'T come up with a logical explanation for it, and it drives them CRAZY, lol. It drives them crazy when they try to dismiss any inside job arguments, and then Building 7 gets brought up, because they KNOW that there is no known explanation for it. It's that one bit of evidence that they can't paper over. Deep down, they know that there's something fishy about it, and it irritates them to no end that they can't explain it.
LongLiveOx 9 months ago
Building 7 did not fall at free fall speed.
Please check out my playlist
so called 9 11 truth and you will see all the damage to the area surrounding 7 from falling debris. You will see a big hole in 7. You will see the fires inside 7. Those planes really did hit the buildings. The fires and jet fuel really brought them down.
I dont think the govt planned 9/11 but we can all agree they took advantage of it to strip us of our personal liberty and mobility.
ZhugeNaut 10 months ago
"So your saying some secret government agents planted thousands of pounds of explosives through crawlspaces."
I can speculate and note that there was a crawl space between every floor and there was that Elevator modernization going on starting 9 month prior to 9/11. I will also note that the Elevator reno wasn't finished and that company was not there on 9/11 and now is no where to be found.
timrocket2008 10 months ago
The Talk Show host is an idiot. How can debris from the other building take out all of the main supports all at the same time yet 5 hours later? And Fire had NOTHING to do with it. Sorry but No. You can't burn down a Metal building with fire. Not to mention that they found forensic evidence in the rubble that proves thermate was used.
"18sec." is a bald face lie.
It is a disgrace how the Truth Movement is treated. They just want to know the Truth for fuksake. Such an Evil world we live in.
timrocket2008 10 months ago
@timrocket2008
One, debris wasn't the primary means of collapse.
Two, many steel framed structures have collapse due to fires alone. A regular house fire can reach temperatures hot enough to weaken steel in three minutes.
Three, that thermitic material in the dust is bullshit. There is zero proof of this. If you know anything about chemical reactions that is easily disproven.
The collapse from the east penthouse to complete collapse is eighteen seconds.
usindependent50 10 months ago
@usindependent50 "many steel framed structures have collapse due to fires alone" Wrong. Never. idiot.
timrocket2008 10 months ago
@timrocket2008
The Kader Toy Factory in Singapore collapsed due to fire alone. It was a steel framed structure. So your wrong idiot. Do I need to name more?
usindependent50 10 months ago
@usindependent50 Just because thats what you have been told doesn't make it true. You can't burn down a metal building with a carbon fire which is what you are told. You believe it because you are an idiot.
timrocket2008 10 months ago
@timrocket2008
A house fire can reach 1200 degrees in three minutes. More than sufficient to weaken steal. The McCormick place metal roof collapsed just like the floors did in the world trade centers. Dogwood Elementary school in Pennsylvania. The Windsor Buildings steel structure collapsed while the concrete core remained.
Look up the Kader Toy Factory and say that the building did not collapse. Are you really being that purposefully ignorant that you wont even look it up..
usindependent50 10 months ago
@usindependent50 The Windsor Building collapsed? Man what are you smoking?
timrocket2008 10 months ago
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@timrocket2008
Listen.
I said the "steel structure collapsed" Because it did... The concrete core remained however. Thats what you can see. I suggest you watch the video again
usindependent50 10 months ago
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@timrocket2008
Listen.
I said the "steel structure collapsed" Because it did... The concrete core remained however. Thats what you can see. I suggest you watch the video again
usindependent50 10 months ago
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usindependent50 10 months ago
@timrocket2008
Answer this for me...
How did a some secret government agency sneak past office employees to plant thousands of pounds of explosives on dozens of columns, after stripping them of concrete, drywall, and fireproofing, without being seen by office employees.
Why would they not just simply place the explosives in the core like any effective demo expert would do.
Why did they detonate the charges seven hours after impact?
What was the motive?
Why didnt they crash a plant into it?
usindependent50 10 months ago
@usindependent50 So you have no ideas at all? I mean it can be speculated. Elevator upgrades gives complete access to core columns , the fact that there are crawl spaces between every floor where office workers are not located etc. You have no brains.
You say "why did they detonate the charges seven hours after impact?" There was no impact of a plane hitting building WTC7.
Some of you "debunker" nuts are just absolutely out of your minds.
timrocket2008 10 months ago
@timrocket2008
So your saying some secret government agents planted thousands of pounds of explosives through crawlspaces. They also still need to strip the columns. So your saying some demolition expert is doing all of this in a 33" crawl space?
Then there is explosives being completely silent when the size and shape of charge required would create enough energy to be heard across the Hudson.
usindependent50 10 months ago
@usindependent50 There were explosions heard across the Hudson and smoke at the base of the towers seen as a result. If you study Thermite and observe experiments you will learn that some charges gone wrong can be explosive with audibility. Most are silent. There were forensic studies on the dust and rubble from Ground Zero and Nano Therimte by products were discovered. This proves Thermite of some sort was present. There should be no such discovery if the Official story were true.
timrocket2008 10 months ago 2
@timrocket2008 THANK YOU.They found alot of unignited thermite too.
spencermel 9 months ago
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@usindependent50 There were explosions heard across the Hudson and smoke at the base of the towers seen as a result. If you study Thermite and observe experiments you will learn that some charges gone wrong can be explosive with audibility. Most are silent. There were forensic studies on the dust and rubble from Ground Zero and Nano Therimte by products were discovered. This proves Thermite of some sort was present. There should be no such discovery if the Official story were true.
timrocket2008 10 months ago
This guy is the ultimate COINTELPRO scumbag.
rolomail 11 months ago
This talk show host gives prostitutes a bad name.
Truther858 1 year ago
Suspicious behavior!
TruthSmack 1 year ago
The only moron here is the Host.If he wasn't so afraid of real evidence he might shut the *%@# up and listen to it instead of shooting his moronic mouth off. American media insanity as usual.Boring!
emacpix 1 year ago
NIST now admits free fall.....NIST also states damage to wtc 7 fell due to fire and damage plays no significant role in the collapse....true story
TheEots 1 year ago
anybody looking to debate against a conspiracy theorist tonight???
xbox g-tag: "maniac executer" add/invite me to a party I dont care if theres 7 other ppl in it iether.
TheWeaponsmith69 1 year ago
He's right. 13 seconds. I timed it myself.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
@Clarrisani The difference between 13 sec and 10 sec is picking nits.
WHY did the building fall in the manner that it did and was COMPLETELY DESTROYED.... what is going on here? Chaotic damage = Coherent "collapse"
I don't think so(!)
DeepSpace8andahalf 1 year ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf The difference between 13 and 10 is 3 seconds. What is going on there? A building falling due to damage and fire. Nothing more to it.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
@Clarrisani So you believe that Chaotic damage can cause Coherent "collapse" 3X and there is nothing suspicious at all about any of this?
DeepSpace8andahalf 1 year ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf Once you do the proper research you can see that the building was structurally compromised. Combine this with the location of the fires, what was fuelling the fires, and the building design, and collapse was inevitable.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
@Clarrisani What constitutes "proper research"?
The fact is that people who have advanced degrees in structural engineering have weighed in on this issue and have stated that "collapse" was NOT inevitable!
This is the Elephant in the room, the NAKED emperor or whatever you want to call it, the GOV is lying to the entire world about this! its mind games, and so far, the perpetrators of 9/11/2001 are getting away with it! When do we seek JUSTICE?
DeepSpace8andahalf 1 year ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf Not sure what you've been reading, but the people with an advanced degree in structural engineering who also work in the business say that the collapse WAS inevitable.
And we are seeking justice. They're still out there searching for Osama, and they have captured some of the others involved in the plot to catch America with its pants down.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
@Clarrisani The NIST did a "computer simulation" of how WTC7 fell, however they refuse to release their source data for this "simulation" ... also they attribute the collapse to OFFICE FIRES when in fact OFFICE FIRES have never been responsible for complete structural failure of any building.
Not to mention that apparently for THREE buildings that day
Chaotic damage = Coherent "collapse" ... whats up with that?
DeepSpace8andahalf 1 year ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf Firstly I suggest you read the recently released NIST findings on the WTC collapse. Secondly, it was not "office fires". I suggest you look into the matter more closely from both sides before jumping to conclusions.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
@Clarrisani NCSTAR 1A was released NOVEMBER of 2008
or is there something more recent?
DeepSpace8andahalf 1 year ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf I think that's it. They've also done a q & a detailing what caused the collapse.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
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Theincredibleism 1 year ago
Yikes. Nathan gets another beatdown. Its like men against boys.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
This DJ is a Looooooony!!!
blackArt2000 1 year ago
Its becoming harder everyday to support the official story.The fact that those who try resort to straw man tactics,insults and pure rudeness such as this speaks for itself.Why would it be necessary to use such tactics to settle a scientific discrepancy? Why is it ''Important'' to require someone to affirm who was the ''Guy who gave the OK'' in order to agree on the rate of decent of Bldg7? Truth is it doesn't.Fact is you've been had,and your beginning to see it.Been there,guess what?We all have
Vinelandar 1 year ago
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Vinelandar 1 year ago
The Radio "host" is RUDE and Dogmatic ... what a CROCK!
Charlie666XZ 1 year ago
@Charlie666XZ Not rude. I'd say just frustrated with dealing with idiots.
Clarrisani 1 year ago
the dj likes himself.. what a retard. asking questions and then talking over the answers.
lightman514 1 year ago
Host sounds like a cranked-up male Ann Coulter.
sorcerio 1 year ago
I have a death ray canon and i`m going to take over the world, Do you hear me , The world:)
LIVERLADD 1 year ago
this fuckin rob breackenridge guy is the biggest scumbag douche i ever heard,,,,,,,,you can tell that he has been instructed by his boss to keep on fuckin chirping about bullshit,,,,,,,,and never once give the caller time to talk,,,,,,,,,fuck him and fuck his boss too,,,,,,,they should go slit thier throats in the mirror so they can watch themselves die!!
bigbopper993 1 year ago
@bigbopper993
And in that comment is a perfect example of a little angry America hating tin foil hat wearing idiot....As a English man I love America but idiots like you just make me want to ....
LIVERLADD 1 year ago
@LIVERLADD don't call me an american,,,,,,I am canadian for god's sake
bigbopper993 1 year ago
@bigbopper993
That figures
LIVERLADD 1 year ago
That isn't a MAN on the phone, it's a TRUTHER MORON.
What kind of fool thinks a giant conspiracy can exist without a bank account, and address, a phone or a paper trail?
It's been NINE years since 2001, and SIX NATIONS have been attacked by AL QUEDA since then. The Arab Jihadists have been attacking the US, since 1968, when the US backed ISRAEL against them.
SEVEN Presidents since Richard Nixon have been attacked, responded militarily, and NOT required a giant conspiracy to do it.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 ... hmmm... check out what happened the day before 911. look back at what was announced... about the military 'loosing' several trillion dollars... thats a good place to start
lightman514 1 year ago
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 thanks.. i appreciate your grown up response.. rather than resulting in insults.
lightman514 1 year ago
@lightman514
No problem, you get the respect you give me.
Just as a second note, where do you think they
can put 2.3 Trillion dollars? A JC Penny gift card?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 .. well... it would bribe alot of people... me personally? id probably use it to buy a nice car... hehe... or 100000000000 of them.....
lightman514 1 year ago
@lightman514
Exactly. I believe else where on the internet,
there is an example of a Trillion dollar pile of
money going to the moon and back. TWICE
For some reason, it would be hard to hide, and
attract a lot of attention. Go Figure!
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
host is on meth
scoretosettle 1 year ago
911 is the greatest HOAX in all history. These radio and TV anchor guys are controlled by the shadow government and would be silenced in next to no time if they opened up.
goldstead 1 year ago
I'll sum up the "truthers" position, "We understand nothing about foreign policy, engineering, aeronautics, terrorism, disaster control, human psyche under stress...but we know more than the experts and we can see through their deception. We are deluded, everyone of our crucial claims has be disproven to have any merit what so ever but we can easily attribute that to those people be in on the conspiracy and it's just the man trying to keep us down, man."
spites1 1 year ago
@spites1
That about describes them:)
LIVERLADD 1 year ago
This geezer has worked in telesales....
ChrisMeerkat 1 year ago
well Nate I don't agree with you on the 9-11 stuff, but man this DJ never shut up. I would have like to hear what you had to say, but man that radio host sucks
TheUnmaskedMagician 1 year ago
truthers are supposed to be the insane ones! listen to this prat rambling like a mad man!
chunkyboy100 1 year ago
What was done on 911 and the cover-up done by the media is beyond me. It is like a nightmare we are going through. This chump dj needs to be held accountable. When you get on the air and start the masters propaganda, cheating us for dollars, he becomes part of the cover-up. He WILL get his just desserts. He is our enemy. Don't be stupid. They laugh at us and bully us. They will pay!!!
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago
Radio show host talks to himself.
trakkaton 1 year ago 7
@trakkaton That's because Nathan is a retard.
terrymanning1 6 months ago
@terrymanning1
Hey sorry about your tourettes. All my pity.
trakkaton 6 months ago
@trakkaton Idiot
terrymanning1 5 months ago
is this radio host on some kind of dope? Either these guys are completely stupid or doing this at purpose...
tjcombo84 1 year ago
the dj is scared
jazzmaster1972 1 year ago
@jazzmaster1972 Of what? lol I'm kind of scared of these nuts as well. There is no evidence for the nut job conspiracy. All these people do is use a lack of evidence as evidence for there conspiracy. They say the building free falled....they didn't. They ask why this, why that....as if that is some kind of evidence for bombs and blah blah blah blah
theUSER101 9 months ago
watch?v=C3E-26oVIIs - Proof Larry SIlverstein said to pull it
trendsetter74 1 year ago
well I know I won't be sending this talk show host a letter in the mail while he's stuck in a FEMA camp :)
verbba 1 year ago
Now NIST admits there was a free fall of around 2.5 seconds. They have to admit at least that much or they will look like complete fools.
darion65 1 year ago
How come the host kept saying "wait a second!" ? Who the fuck was he talking to?! XD
CokeSupply 1 year ago
How can someone watch those videos and not see a planned demolition?
klard 1 year ago
Heat not fire can weaken steel DUMMY i think everybody knows that DUMMY but you need more heat then a few gallons of kerosine, you would be a long time waiting for an rsj to be cut in two if you were to use parafin, i think i would use oxy propane myself, but then again we are all DUMMYS and you know it all, GOBSHITE :-)
tony0966 1 year ago
@tony0966 Not to mention the steel wasn't just soft, It was molten.
Jarvald 1 year ago
F.B.i
klykt 1 year ago
Look at this .D#F3jgd#ge#gt23Jk(9994oooo.
klykt 1 year ago
@blackjerryboymetal and I care that nobody cares? Let me know when you travel farther than your own curb.
tinfoilrepair 1 year ago
@blackjerryboymetal Hile Hitler asswipe
tinfoilrepair 1 year ago 2
jetfuel blew up at the start its only 4/5 karosine it only burned for and hour lol thats it. and how come building 7 fell down on its own
Nyislanders561 1 year ago
a nazi looks like anyone NOT put in endearment camps during WWII - that was only "JAPANEESE LOOKING" people - although we were at war with both the Nazi's and Japs - only JAPS got the benefits of being thrown in Camps - So I guess NOBODY knows what a nazi looks like.
tinfoilrepair 1 year ago
frist of all jetfuel blew up at the start and its only 4/5 karosine and lets just say if you leave your propaine on for hours the crates dont burn does it and 9/11 was burning for an hour so learn your facts you little shrimp your like 5''9 my dick is bigger then you .
Nyislanders561 1 year ago
how does fire melt steel you moron never happened and how did building 7 fall by it self
Nyislanders561 1 year ago
this cocksucklnig talk show host is just as fucking stupid as all the other dickheads that think that the buildings werent demoed any fucking body can plainly see thats what happened that the first fucking thing i thought when i saw them come down it aint fucking rocket science and theres a hell of alot of structural engineers and architects that think the same thing and well over 700 of them if all you cocksuckers dont think they were demoed why are they afraid to reopen an investigation??
speedwayman100 1 year ago
@blackjerryboymetal - Yeah, I terrorize terrorists - thats why you paranoid dude - 911 was an inside job - get over it - admit it - and remember - TRUTH HURTS.
tinfoilrepair 2 years ago
The talk show host is either lying about something he knows is true or he has his head stuck up his own arse and cant see.
tony0966 2 years ago
The host uses the typical tactics of someone who KNOWS he's wrong. He barely gives the caller a chance to speak, and totally misrepresents the facts. No one I know of has EVER claimed the firefighters were in on a conspiracy. Also, if you watch the collapse of building 7, it clearly does not take anywhere close to 15 seconds to fall. It took closer to 6 seconds. The talk show host is a liar and a fraud.
rog944 2 years ago
This talk show host looks like a nazi, or is it me?
tinfoilrepair 2 years ago
The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence. Further research, investigation, and analyses are needed to resolve this issue. - Guess where that is from - FEMA.
90210bt 2 years ago
will that DJ shut the fuck up and let the MAN talk!
cjellwood 2 years ago 14
the host of this is a complete liar!
Barry Jennings heard explosions in wtc7 before wtc1 and wtc2 collapsed. and Michael Hess heard explosions.
Jennings:
watch?v=VQY-ksiuwKU
watch?v=kxUj6UgPODo
Hess:
watch?v=BUfiLbXMa64
and they clearly fell at freefall or almost freefall speed, no more than 7 seconds. watch the video and time it. anybody who says otherwise is clearly a biased liar.
watch?v=gC44L0-2zL8
watch?v=Ml_n5gJgQ_U
davidmas0 2 years ago
RETAKE...........grades 5-12
Dumb ass 911 doufuses
ctcole77 2 years ago
ctcole77,
Bless you! LOL
davidmas0 2 years ago
When this guy talks, it reminds me of matzoh balls and lox and bagels.
avzett 2 years ago
That radio show host is awesome. He flat beat that kid in a debate just like that kid wanted. But, uh oh, the host makes some very valid points. So conspiracy theorists label him ignorant and sheep and what not. Fools.
mason792 2 years ago
How did he beat him? he didn't even give him a chance to speak and that is not winning a debate.
winning a debate is giving both sides the chance to argue their case and coming to a conclusion without the other side speaking over them at the same time.
all you have here is the host asking him a question and then talking over him and that isn't fair debate, its just complete arrogance and disrespect. and to me he clearly did not win regardless of what any says or thinks.
davidmas0 2 years ago
You're grounding up something I said a month ago. Here's an idea: respond to something that's recent instead of a month old. Dipshit. He gave questions and valid points that the kid couldn't answer. Arrogance? Exasperation is more like it. The kid had already brought up the topic several times. The kid is also immature, ignorant, and pugnacious. He's a troll.
mason792 2 years ago
it doesn't matter how long ago it was facts dont change and my point still stands.
no the guy is being arrogant. how can the kid be being arrogant when he isn't even being given a chance to talk to be arrogant? you call that valid points LOL! if you call that valid points and questions then you have got no chance of convincing me of anythin. and he did answer.
and how can you call anyone immature when your calling me names. thats somethin u do when your in primary and kinderguardan.zz!
davidmas0 2 years ago
First, if you could read, you'd see I called the kid in the video immature. Second, if you could spell, you'd know it's "kindergarten". Third, time does matter. Would you smack your dog for shitting on the carpet a month ago? No. I still stand by that statement, but where do you get off reviving old arguments? You don't, so fuck off. Immature? Angered is more accurate. Such foolishness couldn't be stopped by the likes of my valid points because you are, yourself, a fool.
mason792 2 years ago
LOL! first of all i can read and i knew u were calling the kid immature, second i dont care if i spelt it wrong, you still understood wot i meant, which is what i was trying to achieve and succeeded in doing. third, time doesn't matter for this because i didn't have that argument with u. and no i wouldnt hit my dog full stop cos im not mean like u. just cos its an old argument to u doesnt mean it is old to me, so what are u on about? and if im a fool why are you angry? LOL!
davidmas0 2 years ago
You're so thickheaded. Can you not understand that I don't care what you say and don't want to talk. Listen, you're like a guy sitting in on a conversation that lasts for 10 minutes and covers multiple topics. After time has expired and the people who were talking have started to leave. Then you come in trying to talk to us on an old topic. Look, I don't know what you want from me, but take your debate somewhere else because I don't want to talk to you; I'm done.
mason792 2 years ago
you dont care what I say?
well if u dont care what i say why do u keep replying back to me?
I would probably get more sense out of a brick wall.
if u reply back to this message then it proves that u do care what i say.
davidmas0 2 years ago
being arrogant or disrespectful doesn't make him wrong though. everything he said was indeed true. the buildings did NOT fall at free fall speed and that's something that's been proven over and over again.
ihatebobsaget1989 2 years ago
if anyone does anything out of order in the military there will be a court marshall under the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) no one has lost a job for not scrambeling jets to intercept those planes that day. case and point.
pana376 2 years ago