Logitech G25/G27 ARC Brake Pedal Modification Reviewed

[MeSoHornyMeSoStupid]

and how did u make your setup?

[MeSoHornyMeSoStupid]

do they have gas and clutch and shifter mods too?

[xb3l0wz3r0x]

thts bull shit u pay all that money for some damn spring

[cba999casey]

lol 7 minutes , for having a stronger resistance spring on your brake pedal , fwiew. i just set my brake pressure in the game itself , lol

[kevin92703]

can you use this steering wheel controller on a xbox or ps3? or does it have to be on desktop computer?

[simracingtonight]

@kevin92703

It will work on a PS3 as well. It will not work on a xbox

[kevin92703]

can you use this steering wheel controller on a xbox or ps3? or does it have to be on desktop computer?

[Katlunazul]

4:35 Switch your pedals to where? I could not understand what you said. I would like to know where you got the inverted pedal mod :)

[jhootowl]

brakes just slow you down,use your gears

[thebulldogkid26]

why are you presing the brake whit the left foot? if you dont need the cloutch why you instal-it?:))

[derbigpr500]

Couldnt you just add a shorter thinner spring inside the stock spring, so that stock spring would work lets say to 70% of pressure and then the new smaller spring will join to add more pressure? Is there enough space inside for it? I agree this is too expensive for just 1 spring. You can probably get a spring like that made custom for less money.

[anotaren79]

Dont brake with left foot!

[derbigpr500]

@anotaren79 Left foot braking is needed when seriously racing.

[GTtuner56]

@anotaren79 Why not ? Michael Schumacher does it (seriously)

[anotaren79]

@GTtuner56 on his car?

If you would do that in a Drivingschool you would not be able to make it...

[GTtuner56]

@anotaren79 Ok, yes, on his car. But what do you mean in a driving school ? With a manual single seater ?

[dacarfreak2000]

Hey shaun!!! you know the pedal faces can be mounted in reverse easily.

[smosh99fan]

that will get dusty =S

[JRod350]

Nice review, but this product is ridiculously expensive for what it is. There's no way I would even consider it for anywhere near that price.

[Tracer2k]

lol.. 108€ for a friggin spring and a piece of metal.. come on! :D

[aliasx666]

160$ for a spring and a steel shaft is ridicoulus expensive no matter how good the feeling is.

[techluvin]

hi nice vid. I would like to know what could be done to the logitech driving force gt for more resistance. I was thinking perhaps something like this but put the shock on the back part and drill it in or something. Please help to come up with something the driving force gt is a nice wheel but the pedals are a bit of a let down.

[Paranormalonewow]

@techluvin I have a momo which has similar pedals, one trick that helped was taking a car washing sponge and cutting a small chunk off then putting it into the hole the pedal goes down into. As you press the pedal down the sponge gets progressively stiffer and with alittle practice it has really helped my braking. A very simple cheap fix that can gain you tons of time on the track.

[dacarfreak2000]

Hey guys!!! I"m working on a brake pedal mod that uses a sport suspension for motorcycles. It has a knob that adjusts the dampening and stiffness.

[ruderuud]

Kenker nerdjes

[killrathy]

so why not just by the clubsport pedals?

[TheIsmoSepi]

@killrathy if you dont have a fanatec wheel you cant use them on ps3 the mod is also almost half the price of clubsport pedals and the brake mod feels even better then the load cell on csp`s

[newbielives]

Seems like you should just replace the spring in the G25 peddles

[aggy007]

Great review. Thanks!

[maranello55]

wtf...160 bucks!???

[awr117]

Looks nice, but way overpriced. I would never pay $160 for a pedal mod.

[EaAddict360]

I modded my own set of logitech pedals in a way thats similar to the nixim mod. I used a piece of rubber-like foam that came with my RC car (for fitting batteries I would assume, I never used it), and it made the pedal progressive, and its SOOO much easier to threshold brake. Big help.

[12thgear]

Products like ClubSport pedals and the T500 RS exist. This ARC Team mod looks very high quality, but its value only seems to make sense in a vacuum.

[imapunkemo]

Hey guys, why don't you guys review the ARC VRS-P1 and ARC Gearbox also? I'd be interested to know what you guys think about those products. :)

[simracingtonight]

@imapunkemo We have the G25 / 27 wheel mod that we are working on.. We don't have the shifter though yet.

[imapunkemo]

How would this ARC Brake Pedal compare to the Perfect Pedal you reviewed a short while ago?

[simracingtonight]

@imapunkemo We're thinking about a pedal shootout.. The two you mentioned versus the Clubsports by Fanatec. 

[Reason0684]

@simracingtonight: I would be interested in this for sure since I am on the fence of getting Clubsports or modding the G27 pedals.

[imapunkemo]

@simracingtonight Nice guys. Looking forward to it.

[guert2000]

way too expensive :( otherwise I would have got it right now :)

[vidmanx0]

DXTweak2 from the Logitech site is pretty much essential when using progressive braking systems.

[simracingtonight]

@vidmanx0 Doesn't work in iRacing though. iRacing has it's own in game joystick calibration and overrides DXTweak

[vidmanx0]

Typical Kaemmer & crew - too much of a control freak to use standard DirectX routines.

[vidmanx0]

I bought a Perfect Pedal and it's awesome but this looks a good alternative for people that can't afford a Perfect Pedal.

[bonesofanidol]

For the record, a regular spring is actually progressive. The more it's compressed, the harder it is to compress it further. F=kx.

Not in the same way as the ARC spring of course, with the two distinct coil sections.

[NeoN6sic6]

Good show.

Do you plan to bring those long old episodes back? We did not hit 1hundred as I remember =)

[taitoimpact]

might as well cough up for the club sports. thanks for the info though shaun.

[tekata1999]

110 euro for a spring? Are you kidding me?

[ihecho]

This is the site where they sell it... f1driving.it/en/arc-brake

[kellkan69]

Yes yes, I agree. It is far to expensive. If spending 160 bucks to upgrade my brake pedal was justifiable, I think I would just cough up the extra 40 for the load-cell mod from "perfectpedal"

[mattiusg]

ah you make it look too easy ;)

- pity about the price... surely just a new internal spring could do the same?

[Kamukix]

@mattiusg this piece is very nice, but has a fairly 'high' price. I did change the internal spring on ALL 3 three of my pedals. I went to the hardware store (a long time ago), and tried out various spring strengths until I found what I wanted. I ended up with a fairly stiff spring in the clutch pedal, the original clutch spring moved to the throttle housing.

The brake I ran with a stiffer spring for a while, but only until I got my Andy Pastore load cell mod. It's excellent.

Kei

[Gnomie86]

@mattiusg Yeah definitely. This is the lazy man's alternative. It's amazing how you can improve the G25/27 pedals just by simple means, such as a Nixim-style mod and/or a more fancy spring. Or even a loadcell.

ARC makes nice stuff, but their prices are just out of this world. Kind of like Frex..

[MERSLK230]

$160 for a spring? No thanks.

Looks good though.

[LordCalvertWhiskey]

Hey Shaun, have you seen any accelerator pedals that are a little more heavy duty on the market? The problem I have is mainly with the gas pedal. It's just too light which makes it hard to control the throttle harder to slowly apply forcing me to add too much throttle when I come out of an apex

[Kamukix]

@LordCalvertWhiskey when I first recieved my G25 pedals a looong time ago, I just went to the hardware store, and bought multiple springs to try out on all the pedals. I ended up using the original clutch spring in the throttle housing, which made it FAR better for control.

I always drive with shoes on so please take that into account.

Kei

[LordCalvertWhiskey]

@KamukiX Alright awesome. I don't mess around with shoes since the pedals aren't that heavy duty. I just can't feel the pedals like I do in a real car so I don't bother with shoes. But I will definitely take a gander at the hardware store. Thanks dude.

[magzire]

@Kamukix nice idea. going to try that now.

[magzire]

@magzire yeah much better changing the clutch spring with the gas pedal. Works wonders. Thanks Kamukix :)

[guert2000]

@simracingtonight

where can I get shoes like your? alpinestar... I have search the web but can't find shoes...

[AoDIronMask]

@guert2000 Dude, you fail at search. The first search query I made brought up the Alpinestars web store size guide as the top result. Try again.

[guert2000]

@AoDIronMask thanks sherlock holmes, but all those shoes are for outdoor dirt bikes. What I'm trying to find is those small shoes made for indoor racing...

[AoDIronMask]

@guert2000 ...and that's exactly what I found. Alpinestars > Auto Products > Shoes.

[guert2000]

@AoDIronMask oh cool! thanks. I was looking at bike store I think. but hey, those are expensive :( I taught they were some kind of interior shoes. I'll have to pass...

[AoDIronMask]

@guert2000 @AoDIronMask But at least if your wheel catches fire, your feet will be safe :D

[Keith2800]

the score is way too high for that price!

[Gabkicks]

it costs almost as much as the clubsport pedals :/ how does this compared to clubsport brake?

[Foxiol]

For that money i love my brakes on the G27!! lol

[darwinace]

i wish you guys could review my system... we've not gone fully commercial yet, but the first prototypes are complete and for sale on order. They're in vancouver tho

[simracingtonight]

@darwinace We can.. what is it ?

[hjfrancisco]

these reviews aren't even looking like reviews anymore, more like ridiculous product placement. Why would anyone pay that much for two peaces of medal and a spring... It doesn't even change the wiring!

[AoDIronMask]

@hjfrancisco Looked like a fairly comprehensive review and tutorial to me. But yes, it is far too expensive.

[hassan3o7]

just get club sport pedals!

[shawnspeed3]

Can I mod my MS 360 pedal? What would you recommend for Xbox 360 from best to acceptable wheel/pedal models? I don't like my MS wheel I bought years ago.

[fesch03]

@shawnspeed3

Also have the MS wheel for my Xbox games, the wheel ist actually quite nice but the pedals are way too soft. May sound stupid but for Forza 3 i took a paper handkerchief folded it and put it under the brake pedal just so that i have a nice resistance right at the locking limit of the tires. Really great to drive without ABS that way because the ABS slows you down in Forza 3.

[will122391]

want.

[DC9990]

God, youtube fails, took hours to finally come up. Its been doing that alot recently, on one subscriber it took a whole day!!

Anyway this is awesome, I was looking at upgrading my 25 until I decided to just get a t500rs after your reviews :)

[genioaugusto]

guys just a tip, put the link to the sites that you mention in the show in the description

[StingrayX5]

$160? Holy F!

forget that haha

[SMOKY427]

this is for who playing with shoes !

[CMDRSweeper]

Most cars I drive in the sim are road cars with ABS anyway, so I keep that on.

Regardless, I find the spring TOO stiff for the brake pedal, but for convenience reasons as my chair is moving about and somewhat the pedals in a sideways motion, and they are backed up against the wall at this point...

As for going faster... Well I try to make the best out of what I got and try to get there with technique and mind games.

[supercar97]

The first andlast things he says seem very cheesy and too scripted, for example 'I'm shaun cole and I'll see you on the track' just seems too cheesy to be said 1. in this context and 2. by such a well respected member of the sim racing community. but other wise a very good review

[sonac]

Nice review, nice product, but the price is completely unreasonable. Don't want to be rude or anything, just my honest opinion.

[thepineapple1]

I wouldn't put such a strong spring on the same plastic crap.

it's kinda like upgrading a car with a MUCH stronger engine, but keeping the same chassis. it's bound to go wrong.

[sparks444]

@thepineapple1 My experience is that the G25 pedals are very solid, perhaps more solid than the pedals on some cars.

[PAPO1990]

at that price wouldn't it be better to save a little longer and buy a better pedal set?

[meamjustme]

Where can i find this?

EDIT:

Never mind ^^

[SchoolofLuke]

ARC make the most over-priced products ever.

[meamjustme]

Where can i find this?

[SRAcademy]

Very nice Review Shaun, good explanation on how to open the pedalset aswell!

[Exowar01]

160 Bucks for a spring ... i pass ...

[AWDfreak]

Awesome mod! I always found the brake spring of the G25/27 too light (so I often locked up, resorting to ABS in games if applicable), and the ARC Brake Pedal spring appears to fix that.

Although I don't actually have a G25/27, thanks so much for uploading. In the far future when I do have a full-on sim racing rig, I will definitely buy one of these.