The Source of Human Morality Debate (part 1/9)

[slytherinspy1960]

umbcOCF version of this disabled the comments....of course

[Morahg]

Matt D is awesome.

[WorBlux]

I like this pro guy, and would like to contribute a few points.

First this is nothing new, classical philosophers talked about right reason. Even Aquinas and Grotius used this approach to a large degree.

Secondly I believe what he's talking about at the end is the use of dialectic to double check moral conclusions.

Third, just to be clear I don't think it's about values held, but values that are to be perused. It is a question of which values best fit into the human causal structure/life.

[justintempler]

If you would like to see how the theists viewed the debate it can be seen on

The American Orthodox Institute website:

tinyurl . c o m /37w364s

Make sure you read the recent comments in the right hand column labeled recent comments.

[LoopuleasaIonut]

morality is a beneficial social behaviour

[aajoeyjo]

That's some nice debatin' there, Matt!

[minesoriginal]

"we have to define our terms" then goes on to talk about what atheism is. far better to attack then have to defend when you have nothing to protect yourself with.

[PerilocutionAZ09]

I don't understand why the fr. tries to have it both ways. He says that atheism is necessarily materialistic, but then says eugenics is necessarily (or at least in practice, which is still dubious) atheistic, and targeted Jews because their very genomes apparently represent a non-materialistic entity/ideology. How is this materialism? The selection criteria used in eugenics had nothing to do with Darwinism, and could not have been derived from the current materialistic understanding of genetics.

[mattdyer0]

This was a fantastic debate (I sat in the 3rd row!) Dillahunty owned Jacobse.

Oh, and thank you for not being cowards and disabling comments :)

[coil311]

Thanks for uploading the videos for us to watch.

Long live secularism and rationalism.

[TheGreatOldOnes]

I suggest everyone send messages to the OCF account regarding their censorship. Whoever runs it is a fun guy. Be sure to swear a lot. ;-)

[PerilocutionAZ09]

@TheGreatOldOnes I don't see the point in doing this. It's a bit ridiculous to call disabling comments "censorship". It will probably end up making the videos less popular, though.

[ArranoGris]

Fr. Jacobse is fallacious, deceptive, contradictory, condescending and off-topic during the vast majority of this "debate". In fact, later on it felt like he maybe just gave up on even trying to "debate" and started acting like he was at the pulpit.

[Pelonetillo]

is also a douche

[SimoonSam]

Matt D has convinced me to shave my head.

[MrMythnam]

@SimoonSam As soon as the male pattern baldness strikes in force, I'm growing a VanDyke and breaking out the razor.

[secularUMBC]

@un000890 Hahah yes indeed. Please spread the word!

[un000890]

The Source of Human Morality Debate (FREE SPEECH VERSION) pt1

[harfharfful]

Hooray disrespect tolerant! After all, it would be impossible to post the father's slander without it.