HISTORYSTUDENT123 is obviously still a student of history because the FBI, the War Department and the President's own investigative team found that there was no military threat by these Japanese, over 60% of which were born in AMERICA. Get your fucking facts straight and stop trying to defend white supremacist ideology that clearly violated Japanese American civil and constitutional rights via internment. "Plenty" of disloyalty my ass! Get back to the books, motherfucker.
U.S.Army MID Information Bulletin No.6 of Jan.21, 1942,titled "Japanese Espionage," forwarded to Ass't SecWar John J. McCloy by Brig. General Mark J. Clark,then Deputy Chief of Staff, U.S.Army, which, among its conclusions states: "Their espionage net containing Japanese aliens, first and second generation Japanese and other nationals is now thoroughly organized and working underground."
Approximately two-thirds of the ADULTS among those evacuated were Japanese nationals--enemy aliens. The vast majority of evacuated Japanese-Americans (U.S. citizens) were children at the time. Their average age was only 15 years. In addition, over 90% of Japanese-Americans over age 17 were also citizens of Japan (dual citizens)under Japanese law. Thousands had been educated in Japan. Some having returned to the U.S. holding reserve rank in the Japanese armed forces.
And, of course, the MAGIC intercepts. Here's an excerpt of one from the L.A. Japanese Consul to Tokyo on May 9, 1941: "We have already established contacts with absolutely reliable Japanese in the San Pedro and San Diego area who will keep a close watch on the shipments of airplanes and other war materials...We shall maintain connection with our second generations (Nisei)...working in airplane plants for intelligence purposes."
Do you know what? The most important thing is that the "japs" have always kept the honor, goodness and inteligence, even in the worst moments and I've never heard about Revolution coming from my "japs" good friends, but I have heard a lot about Evolution from them , evolution.
I'm happy that the bad times have finished for ever.
I find it disgusting that people today are saying it was ok to intern people in camps. It just shows how easy us Amricans are willing to give up our freedoms during times of war. These people were not in Pearl Harbor. All i hear is, " but they could have been sympathetic to the Japanese". If we use that kind of logic why were Germans and Italians not interned, were they not our enemies.I think it had to do with racism. INTERMENT like this is NEVER just. I can see this happening today...
While the internment of innocent people was wrong, I must say, my mother used to go play with the Japanese kids at Manzanar all the time. My uncles were guards there, they abused no one. 2 of my cousins still live in housing removed from Manzanar after the war. Manzanar had gardens, rec center, hospital, sports fields, orchards, and many other facilities to make it bearable to those who had to be there. I make no apologies for what had to be done for the security of our nation in a time of war.
A Japanese American man says, "had other Americans had courage to speak out.."(against human injustice),he says Rememberance Day and this Dialogue about violations of human rights would be unnecessary today.I agree about apologizing, but also question how many of the Japanese Americans kept quiet about or justified Japanese invasions,colonialism,and slavery in rest of Asia for half a century before WWII? Are they doing enough today about Japanese Government's Whitewashing of History?
Right or wrong in the issue of interning (imprisoning) innocent American citizens is completely separate and has nothing to do with Imperial Japan or the modern Japanese society. Just because Japan committed abuses in its colonies does not mean AMERICAN citizens of Japanese ancestry are to hold to blame. The point of this video is to show the horror of internment and, hopefully, cause you to realize exactly how unjust internment is--whether in Guantanamo, CIA camps, or WW II.
The Japanese were horrible. The Rape of Nanking, the treatment of PoWs, the general abuse enacted upon native populations. All horrible, but perfectly in line with imperialism.
Look at the United States in the Phillipines, the Spanish, the Belgians in the Congo, the French in Algeria, the British in various colonies, or even the Opium Wars as a whole.
"White man's burden" is what Rudyard Kipling called it.
of course, traditional imperialism, outside of the modern era, shares similar markers.
Tamerlane? Genghis Khan? Rome? Greece?
Slavery, massacres, and a general bloody and abhorrent history marks imperialistic expansionism.
not to rationalize the actions of the Japanese, the history of the world is like... that. To single out one culture or people is naive. We share this legacy as a human race.
Who is singling out Japan??.You talk of Past unfortunate events as human blunders(nature) giving examples of other human shortcomings in history,but seems very sensitive about the Questions I have raised about Human weaknesses in Japanese Americans that may have been present.Internment should not have happened.I never said otherwise. As much as apanese Americans regard themselves as half Japanese and proud of it,retaining the Japanese culture..It sure would be nice if they could also focus on..
and make some clear voice against the continued crimes of whitwashing of history.
EG.) If some one is a relative of a murderer, I consider it appropriate that they speak of maltreatment during Police questionings AFTER they have also shown some remorse and sadness of there Family members Killings.This is only one human issue I touch upon among many, Just as you feel concern for many other human troubles in hisory. Can we not exagerate????? It was a Question with broader concern in mind...
The scope and horror of the Italian and German internment cannot compare to the Japanese internment. Yes, there were loose "restriction" zones on the coast, however, no more than 20,000 Germans and Italians were interned. One-hundred twenty thousand Japanese. The overall % of people with Japanese ancestry interned is much, much, higher than for Germans or Italians. The racism and mistreatment of Asians in general on the West Coast is well-documented before and after WWII. Different scope.
lol oh, only 20,000 humans other than Japanese were interned as well... Im sympathetic to the Japanese internment as much as anyone but to make light of ANY group of interned people is just ignorant.
ONLY the Japanese Americans were targeted as an ethnic group for 100% internment. German and Italian internments were case-by-case and fewer than 1000 lasted longer than 3 months.
Japanese American INFANTS were taken from orphanages and non-Japanese foster homes, to be put behind barbed wire -- the rule was that ONE DROP of Japanese blood meant internment.
Yet only 3% of the Japanese and Nisei in Hawai'i were locked up, case-by-case instead of wholesale.
Did the Germans attack us/ No the Japanese did, and we know that several acts of sabotage were perpetrated by amer-japs.Did it suck for them? Sure! but it sucked for everyone. everyone sacrificed something. The thousands of philipeans lost alot more than some time and humility.Same with millions of chinese. We did the best we could.And hey it looks like everything worked out
The 1988 bill and the commission was political. Japanese were evacuated off the West Coast becuase of evidence of fifth column activites, none that was found amongst the Germans or Italians. In fact these groups aided the government in weeding out disloyals while the Japanese refused to do so.
As for Hawaii is was impossible to evacuate 40% of the population or the goverment would have.
You miss the slight jab that LunasAzules made then. Lunas, at least this is how it came across to me, was devaluing the video on the basis that it was "ignorant" as you put it because it did not include Italians and Germans. I gave an explanation as to why they were not included. It is not necessarily ignorant. German-Italian internment and discrimination during WWII were drastically different experiences from the Japanese. Not to say it wasn't bad, just that it is not the same.
The reason for the difference in numbers can be found in several places. 1- The Japanese Navy was much stronger and there was a greater threat of invasion on the west coast where most Japanese lived. Japan had 10 or 11 aircraft carriers Germany and Italy had none.(aircraft carriers were necessary for invasion ) 2- The Japanese took their children with them. Only about 45000 were adults. 3- the voluntary evacuation did not work for the Japanese,probably because they had no place to go.
Wow, this is a cool rap song about a sad war. If only they had this type of education for all the other materials no one would ever be bored. I have to admit the very injured man is disgusting to see.
Out of all the Kenji videos I've seen on here, this one is by far the most moving. My Grandfather served in the U.S. Army while his family was locked up in camp. Not many people know that this happened, even though it's such a significant part of our history. Thanks for putting this out there.
Id like to know more about her experiences.I know many Japaneses but none from that era.What does she say. Ive read stories but many differ and many are propaganda ment to demoralize americans
Unfortunately they probably realized it could have been worse. Our enemies were brutalizing everyone. The atrocities committed by the Japs,Germs,Ruskies,&Italian in NAfrica is unbelieveable.WHy r ppl so cruel.I appreciate the hardship of those who came to this land & were treated with such contempt by ppl who look just like me.How can so many"christians" be so mean? God says to treat strangers with kindndess not contempt or jealousy
HISTORYSTUDENT123 is obviously still a student of history because the FBI, the War Department and the President's own investigative team found that there was no military threat by these Japanese, over 60% of which were born in AMERICA. Get your fucking facts straight and stop trying to defend white supremacist ideology that clearly violated Japanese American civil and constitutional rights via internment. "Plenty" of disloyalty my ass! Get back to the books, motherfucker.
Recusal 3 years ago
U.S.Army MID Information Bulletin No.6 of Jan.21, 1942,titled "Japanese Espionage," forwarded to Ass't SecWar John J. McCloy by Brig. General Mark J. Clark,then Deputy Chief of Staff, U.S.Army, which, among its conclusions states: "Their espionage net containing Japanese aliens, first and second generation Japanese and other nationals is now thoroughly organized and working underground."
HistoryStudent123 3 years ago
Approximately two-thirds of the ADULTS among those evacuated were Japanese nationals--enemy aliens. The vast majority of evacuated Japanese-Americans (U.S. citizens) were children at the time. Their average age was only 15 years. In addition, over 90% of Japanese-Americans over age 17 were also citizens of Japan (dual citizens)under Japanese law. Thousands had been educated in Japan. Some having returned to the U.S. holding reserve rank in the Japanese armed forces.
HistoryStudent123 3 years ago
And, of course, the MAGIC intercepts. Here's an excerpt of one from the L.A. Japanese Consul to Tokyo on May 9, 1941: "We have already established contacts with absolutely reliable Japanese in the San Pedro and San Diego area who will keep a close watch on the shipments of airplanes and other war materials...We shall maintain connection with our second generations (Nisei)...working in airplane plants for intelligence purposes."
HistoryStudent123 3 years ago
Germans and Italians were interned. As for the West Coast there was no evidence of disloyalty from Germans or Italians and plenty from Japanese.
HistoryStudent123 3 years ago
YEAH, "PLENTY". You're really, really uninformed.
Recusal 3 years ago
Do you know what? The most important thing is that the "japs" have always kept the honor, goodness and inteligence, even in the worst moments and I've never heard about Revolution coming from my "japs" good friends, but I have heard a lot about Evolution from them , evolution.
I'm happy that the bad times have finished for ever.
My best regards,
Beto
rofotografo 3 years ago
I find it disgusting that people today are saying it was ok to intern people in camps. It just shows how easy us Amricans are willing to give up our freedoms during times of war. These people were not in Pearl Harbor. All i hear is, " but they could have been sympathetic to the Japanese". If we use that kind of logic why were Germans and Italians not interned, were they not our enemies.I think it had to do with racism. INTERMENT like this is NEVER just. I can see this happening today...
Rue400 3 years ago
While the internment of innocent people was wrong, I must say, my mother used to go play with the Japanese kids at Manzanar all the time. My uncles were guards there, they abused no one. 2 of my cousins still live in housing removed from Manzanar after the war. Manzanar had gardens, rec center, hospital, sports fields, orchards, and many other facilities to make it bearable to those who had to be there. I make no apologies for what had to be done for the security of our nation in a time of war.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
A Japanese American man says, "had other Americans had courage to speak out.."(against human injustice),he says Rememberance Day and this Dialogue about violations of human rights would be unnecessary today.I agree about apologizing, but also question how many of the Japanese Americans kept quiet about or justified Japanese invasions,colonialism,and slavery in rest of Asia for half a century before WWII? Are they doing enough today about Japanese Government's Whitewashing of History?
sjwr3 3 years ago
Right or wrong in the issue of interning (imprisoning) innocent American citizens is completely separate and has nothing to do with Imperial Japan or the modern Japanese society. Just because Japan committed abuses in its colonies does not mean AMERICAN citizens of Japanese ancestry are to hold to blame. The point of this video is to show the horror of internment and, hopefully, cause you to realize exactly how unjust internment is--whether in Guantanamo, CIA camps, or WW II.
I'll bite though
wytbyt 3 years ago
The Japanese were horrible. The Rape of Nanking, the treatment of PoWs, the general abuse enacted upon native populations. All horrible, but perfectly in line with imperialism.
Look at the United States in the Phillipines, the Spanish, the Belgians in the Congo, the French in Algeria, the British in various colonies, or even the Opium Wars as a whole.
"White man's burden" is what Rudyard Kipling called it.
wytbyt 3 years ago
of course, traditional imperialism, outside of the modern era, shares similar markers.
Tamerlane? Genghis Khan? Rome? Greece?
Slavery, massacres, and a general bloody and abhorrent history marks imperialistic expansionism.
not to rationalize the actions of the Japanese, the history of the world is like... that. To single out one culture or people is naive. We share this legacy as a human race.
wytbyt 3 years ago
And as a human race, it is our responsibility to end this legacy, to do our part to ensure it stops with us.
Can we?
wytbyt 3 years ago
Who is singling out Japan??.You talk of Past unfortunate events as human blunders(nature) giving examples of other human shortcomings in history,but seems very sensitive about the Questions I have raised about Human weaknesses in Japanese Americans that may have been present.Internment should not have happened.I never said otherwise. As much as apanese Americans regard themselves as half Japanese and proud of it,retaining the Japanese culture..It sure would be nice if they could also focus on..
sjwr3 3 years ago
and make some clear voice against the continued crimes of whitwashing of history.
EG.) If some one is a relative of a murderer, I consider it appropriate that they speak of maltreatment during Police questionings AFTER they have also shown some remorse and sadness of there Family members Killings.This is only one human issue I touch upon among many, Just as you feel concern for many other human troubles in hisory. Can we not exagerate????? It was a Question with broader concern in mind...
sjwr3 3 years ago
As a person with jappanesse ancsetors
i can say that was the worst thing
america has ever done!!
Grahmester 3 years ago
to all the died japanese in that ''camp'' (sry my english is not good''...Rest In Peace
cob19921992 3 years ago
search "McGreal" and click on history report if you want to learn more
abrod01 3 years ago
sad
jeebs15 4 years ago
Many people also forget that Italians were put into Internment camps as well.
LunasAzules 4 years ago
The scope and horror of the Italian and German internment cannot compare to the Japanese internment. Yes, there were loose "restriction" zones on the coast, however, no more than 20,000 Germans and Italians were interned. One-hundred twenty thousand Japanese. The overall % of people with Japanese ancestry interned is much, much, higher than for Germans or Italians. The racism and mistreatment of Asians in general on the West Coast is well-documented before and after WWII. Different scope.
wytbyt 4 years ago
lol oh, only 20,000 humans other than Japanese were interned as well... Im sympathetic to the Japanese internment as much as anyone but to make light of ANY group of interned people is just ignorant.
phlizmo 4 years ago
ONLY the Japanese Americans were targeted as an ethnic group for 100% internment. German and Italian internments were case-by-case and fewer than 1000 lasted longer than 3 months.
Japanese American INFANTS were taken from orphanages and non-Japanese foster homes, to be put behind barbed wire -- the rule was that ONE DROP of Japanese blood meant internment.
Yet only 3% of the Japanese and Nisei in Hawai'i were locked up, case-by-case instead of wholesale.
It wasn't necessity, it was political.
SoloPilot6 3 years ago
Did the Germans attack us/ No the Japanese did, and we know that several acts of sabotage were perpetrated by amer-japs.Did it suck for them? Sure! but it sucked for everyone. everyone sacrificed something. The thousands of philipeans lost alot more than some time and humility.Same with millions of chinese. We did the best we could.And hey it looks like everything worked out
hamace 3 years ago
The 1988 bill and the commission was political. Japanese were evacuated off the West Coast becuase of evidence of fifth column activites, none that was found amongst the Germans or Italians. In fact these groups aided the government in weeding out disloyals while the Japanese refused to do so.
As for Hawaii is was impossible to evacuate 40% of the population or the goverment would have.
HistoryStudent123 3 years ago
You miss the slight jab that LunasAzules made then. Lunas, at least this is how it came across to me, was devaluing the video on the basis that it was "ignorant" as you put it because it did not include Italians and Germans. I gave an explanation as to why they were not included. It is not necessarily ignorant. German-Italian internment and discrimination during WWII were drastically different experiences from the Japanese. Not to say it wasn't bad, just that it is not the same.
wytbyt 3 years ago
Well it is a lot easier to identify Japs isn't it than to diferentiat english for italians
hamace 3 years ago
The reason for the difference in numbers can be found in several places. 1- The Japanese Navy was much stronger and there was a greater threat of invasion on the west coast where most Japanese lived. Japan had 10 or 11 aircraft carriers Germany and Italy had none.(aircraft carriers were necessary for invasion ) 2- The Japanese took their children with them. Only about 45000 were adults. 3- the voluntary evacuation did not work for the Japanese,probably because they had no place to go.
ussam220 3 years ago
Wow, this is a cool rap song about a sad war. If only they had this type of education for all the other materials no one would ever be bored. I have to admit the very injured man is disgusting to see.
blazemaster300 4 years ago
Very powerful song and images. Well done.
ladoctora9 4 years ago
damn the man save the empire
bluebirdie252 4 years ago
Man, I studied this and did my own video but this is horrible! I never heard the song and listening and watching gave me shivers! Its so sad!
Iridecent 4 years ago
Great Video Josh, A+
Rod
Rodhite 5 years ago
great video and great song
bluebirdie252 5 years ago
yes, the government did repay them...but you had to be alive and actually in the camp to got anything...oh and it was 2o,000per family!
bluestar28 5 years ago
omg i cried :(
i cried
when they say where nice people were tyrants
my great granda dad was in korean war and ww2
so this is just depressing that we would do thins...
littlemanhobbs0 5 years ago
Out of all the Kenji videos I've seen on here, this one is by far the most moving. My Grandfather served in the U.S. Army while his family was locked up in camp. Not many people know that this happened, even though it's such a significant part of our history. Thanks for putting this out there.
nihonxgirl 5 years ago
nihonxgirl=NICE sn, my grandmother was at the camp,as i stated she told me it wasnt all that bad, you did what you normally would at home. kewl
brendonomer 4 years ago
Id like to know more about her experiences.I know many Japaneses but none from that era.What does she say. Ive read stories but many differ and many are propaganda ment to demoralize americans
hamace 3 years ago
she said it was everyday living, cook, clean, etc. Unless she was lying to me. lol
Im sure many were dealt with immorally but you never know whose at fault these days.
brendonomer 3 years ago
Unfortunately they probably realized it could have been worse. Our enemies were brutalizing everyone. The atrocities committed by the Japs,Germs,Ruskies,&Italian in NAfrica is unbelieveable.WHy r ppl so cruel.I appreciate the hardship of those who came to this land & were treated with such contempt by ppl who look just like me.How can so many"christians" be so mean? God says to treat strangers with kindndess not contempt or jealousy
hamace 3 years ago
Awesome vid! Good work (Y)
xMiichx 5 years ago
It really sucked, just a few pictures .. jeej,,
The song is cool though
Ardwar 5 years ago
Great music and vid. Thanks!
EvilDoer35 5 years ago
dam good vid... im serious. it made me shed tears.
HybridSoldier629 5 years ago
good work. Certainly gets the point across.
mrdquick 5 years ago
Great job
Dwight03 5 years ago
Damn, such terrible things that happen on so supposed "free" soil.
nwz 5 years ago