Anner Bylsma Bowing

[celloryoku]

I find it quite difficult to manage the articulations and sound quality especially on a period instrument. Even a modern instrument with gut strings...

I wonder if one of those who describes his sound as "pressed" could post a short video response demonstrating both a "pressed " and "unpressed" sound to clarify the argument. I think it would be helpful to myself and others who are struggling with Bach. Thanks!

[porpoisefathom]

holy f____k!!!

[jmjmichael2008]

Cool!!!

[pantoant0]

Ma cosa mi tocca leggere!

Anner è un grande! Il suo tocco anche!

E poi che ne dite delle interpretazioni di Bach eseguite da Mischa e Rostropovich? Scusate se è poco!

[dragonking5000]

my name is actually Anner also ANd this is not a lie I SWEAR ON MY OWN GRVE THAT THATS MY NAME

[rosannephilippens]

comment on many comments: I don't think it helps you as a musician to be, as young as you maybe are, already so insulting. I think it's important to be as open as you can be! To learn something from everyone. Otherwise you are just one of those boring people who think they know very, very much, but actually still have to learn a lot. It's so easy to like only the big famous cellists. But it costs more energy, to like (or to RESPECT, at least) other types of playing. By the way: I like him A LOT

[BeckyLinda1]

"rosannephilippens"

I couldn't agree with you more..........In one comment you sum up my total frustration with opinionated but inexperienced people.

PS. I like him a lot too!

[cellista54]

@rosannephilippens I agree! Alot of people right now just look at notes and they don't actually know what the notes mean...And they base everything on that.

[francello75]

...I really don't understand what the point is... he's Anner Bylsma!!! something wrong with HIS Bach???

[Epmonito]

he is demonstrating baroque style of playing, so the sound is open and light.

[hbcapp]

I don't understand what he's teaching? Something about learning bowing but he demonstrates it so badly i don't think the student would understand. Is he only trying to say you should practice slowly for bow control? In that case why doesn't he have any bow control when he plays?

[Epmonito]

he is demonstrating baroque style of playing, so the sound is open and light.

[BesACB]

He says "Baroque bowing...you really have to LEARN it" and then bows very deliberately and studiedly, Hbcapp. That was the point.

[violashizzle]

The sound result at the end is also terrible. The sound is simply pressed and ugly. Bach cello suites have been played well in the past but by the likes of Casals, Tortelier and Shafran truly great musicians who understood structure and communication not boring period "specialists" like Bylsma.

[karelbredenhorst]

ok, I understand your argument.

Casals, Tortelier and Shafran (especially Shafran) belong, to me, to the greatest of cellists, even though I do not like their Bach. Maybe it would be good for you to think about why Bylsma is also considered a highly respected cellist and musician, and maybe you should wonder why you can not see it? You know, just to keep open minded ;)

[KISIMOV]

@karelbredenhorst

You want him to see... what....

Not everyone can have same opinion you know..... right?

I don't like him either,because when I was watching an interview with him he said :

"Music is never important,it's made for pleasure." To be honest...I wanted to punch him in to the face when he said that.

Well music is definitely NOT only for pleasure....

And whoever thinks that way...is the dumbest person ever!

[karelbredenhorst]

@KISIMOV That's his opinion, no punching is going to change it ;)

I do not agree with him fully, but I understand what he's trying to say, and his message IS very important. Music is definitely made for our pleasure. I enjoy listening to and playing beautiful music, you do not?

So please illuminate me and explain what music is made for.

[KISIMOV]

@karelbredenhorst

How should I explain you....

How about Schoenberg and "Pierrot lunaire" or Stavinsky and "Rite of spring".

Are these for pleasure?

Music can be for some kind of ritual for sacrifice (I am talking about the ancient times when music was still new and people were using it for those king of things).

Music can express your deepest pain,sadness,desire. And believe me,it is not a joy.

For me music is freedom too.

[Cayo255]

@KISIMOV well, i understand what you are saying, of course there is a trascendental message in must of the music,, however the final porpuse of any kind of music, is just that, pleasure, thats what music was created for, any other message if theres any, is beside the pleasure.

in western music almost all music before Beethoven (incluiding the great Bach) was made, as a work, as any other work. just for the pleasure of the nobility.

At the end, all music is for pleasure. thats it, like it or not.

[Epmonito]

he is demonstrating baroque style of playing, so the sound is open and light.

[etistone]

The sound is terrible because of the bad quality of the recording...

[BesACB]

Listen to his rendering here on Youtube of the prelude of the first cello suite and then tell me if you think he is a boring specialist!

[99Mandalore]

This is suite no 3 Gigue by Bach. I really needed this, because i like this suite a lot, but i get problems with the begging

[00000ppp]

Is this a joke?

[cigulka]

I thought so when I first heard it too but this seems to be some sort of a masterclass. Pity the student who is supposed to be learning from so poor a teacher!

[karelbredenhorst]

He is demonstrating the bowings he uses, and how he practices them.

Obviously you never visited a masterclass of Anner Bylsma, or met him. He is a great teacher and a charismatic musician.

[00000ppp]

Can't imagine anyone wanting to sound as bad as this. The sound he makes is just awful.

[karelbredenhorst]

ok. I agree it doesn't sound very good when he is practicing slow in the beginning. But you also don't like the sound when he plays the result at the end?

[00000ppp]

yes, sounds like ass also in the end.

[karelbredenhorst]

Ok, so we disagree.

So if you please, so that it would seem we have a discussion, give me 1 example of somebody playing bach that you think plays it really good and doesn´t sound like ass.

[alonsoamadeus]

@00000ppp if you are cellist, with this comment you proof you don`t know how to study wuajajajajaajja

[amm1t5]

@00000ppp

Maybe true.

But listen to his recording of the 6 cello suites on Sony Vivarte on which he plays a Stradivarius lent to him by th Smithsonian institute. One of the best sounding version on the market.

[violoncelami]

only an "artist" like you could make such a comment

[violashizzle]

Bylsma making an ass of himself as usual