Welsh lesson 3 - Pronouncing Welsh words and names

[JamesJimmaHarding]

Welsh is a very interesting language indeed

We actually have a town here in Australia called 'Rhyll' excpet it has 2 L's at the end

[elmo5242]

@JamesJimmaHarding The Welsh word "Hyll" means "Ugly", so 'Rhyll would literally mean "The Ugly", which is a bit of an unfortunate name, still I wonder if the settlers of Rhyll were missing home and named it after Rhyl... who knows....

[mrscullenaraz]

sut ydych chi'n ynganu hyn

'llanfairpwllgwgngyllgogerychw­yrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch'

diolch yn fawr

[elmo5242]

@mrscullenaraz Be ydy'r tiwn?

[mrscullenaraz]

@elmo5242 Dim syniad, dyna pam yr wyf yn gofyn i chi. Mae fideos, ond eu bod yn rhy gyflym i mi ddal.

[calibokina]

Jimmy Carr: "I love the Welsh language, because it was obviously invented by a Dad losing at Scrabble. 'That's not a word!' 'NOW IT IS!'"

[007samhill]

U sayed Rhyl wrong

[elmo5242]

@007samhill I live here, I think I know how it's pronounced ;) So many people pronounce it as "Rill", does my head in.

[janweltevreden]

Im dutch, and have respect for this lovely language with its sounds that are simply ghostly!. Planning to buy a cottage in the middle of nowhere and settle down in Wales 'cause i love hills n rain and dont smoke cannabis. Yeh, its gonna be cool swapping one throat desease (Dutch) for another one (Welsh!) HOYLE! (Hoyle is welsh for bye)

[elmo5242]

@janweltevreden Cool, since you like hjills and rain, then you'd love it here. I think you meant "Hwyl" (which is welsh for 'have fun' and used as a farewell :)

[janweltevreden]

sssss

[MICHELLEEVANS33]

Awesome vids

! thanks what other languages can you help with? your sweet.

[MICHELLEEVANS33]

Awesome vids

! thanks what other languages can you help with?

[elmo5242]

@MICHELLEEVANS33 Aww thanks *Blushes* Umm..... English? I know a little French and German but am nowhere near confident enough to teach it :) 

[ilkinond]

My friend keep doing it. You are good. I like you. Teach me hoW to declaim a simple Welsh peom - can you? If you do, I will try to do it ad upload it. Deal?

[elmo5242]

@ilkinond No problem. Will see what I can do

[Mikosch2]

Thank you so much! Very good lessons, but the LL keeps owning me. O:-)

[elmo5242]

@Mikosch2 Try listening to Lesson 2? ;) The trick is not to blow too hard or too long, which is a mistake most newcomers do. Lwc Dda!

[lalunalynn]

@seonidh- yes it annoys me because we were basically told (before my time), its a dead language and we do not need it anymore.Well its my native language, i'll decide whether I need it or not thankyou very much! But the people of Wales have shown them how they feel by the sheer number of Welsh medium schools popping up all over South Wales, and Welsh is a compulsory subject in all English medium Welsh schools too. So I suppose we have put them in their place. After all, we are Welsh not English!

[seonidh]

Lowri or Lowrey is also scottish Romani for money

[elmo5242]

@seonidh I never knew that. Thanks :) 

[JustDK62]

@elmo5242 loving it so far, didnt have welsh when i was growing up so its a tough one for me now at 50 but i'm trying, when we were growing up we allways called it llan did no and not the way you pronounced , but i bow to your expertise, hope i make it thru to the end :)

[elmo5242]

@JustDK62 Llan-Did-No is close enough, It's my Welsh accent which makes the "did" part sound different.

[lalunalynn]

When I was at school we were taught no welsh at all, not even our national anthem! (which grieves me to this day). Being the proud welsh people that we are, my husband and I have sent our daughter to a welsh medium school here in South Wales, so we are also learning through her, and these video clips help me a lot with her home work and pronunciation of words. I am finally beginning to learn to speak my native language, and I love it. thanks a lot!

[elmo5242]

@lalunalynn Wow. Croeso :)

[seonidh]

@lalunalynn same thing happened in scotland with gaelic it was opressed by the london centric government

[seonidh]

@seonidh also the south of scotland also spoke brythonic cumbric in Gododdin, Rhygedd, Strathclyde all old welsh speaking kingdoms (although wernt part of wales). A prince of Gododdin (modern day Edinburgh) , Cunedda even founded the kingdom of Gwynedd and the south of scotland was known as the Hen Ogleth or old north. The links between the brythonic areas of scotland and wales are old.

[Sodagirl611]

Thank you for these videos. They are great!

[elmo5242]

@Sodagirl611 Croeso :)

[098anne]

You are a great instructor! Thank you!!

[elmo5242]

@098anne Croeso :)

[rroobboo999]

this guy just kicks ass!!!! man are you a professional teacher? this is the best lessons I`ve ever seen

[elmo5242]

@rroobboo999 LOL A Professional teacher? Nope! Thanks :)

[MsMoeJo]

Hello Elmo I have found your lessons very useful as I am a total beginner.

Look forward to going through the lessons.

Thanks

[elmo5242]

@MsMoeJo I'm glad, but sorry they sort of peter out, I need to record some more.

[Boi140]

i dont know what website you got it all off but un is not pronounced like that. its pronounced as EE-N

[elmo5242]

@Boi140 Didn't get it off any website, Welsh is my first language. It's "ee-n" if you happen to be from South Wales. I'm not.

[Boi140]

@elmo5242 welsh is my first language too, i was in a welsh school, learnt and lived in NORTH WALES. and now i live in SOUTH WALES and its exactly th same. so GWTHIO I FFWRDD A CHI DDYN DWP!

[elmo5242]

@Boi140 Umm... nope it's not, where in North Wales did you learn? I'm from South West Gwynedd, and so the accent might be a bit different. A paid a trio rhegi, achos mae neb yn defnyddio "Gwithio i fwrdd". Effallai bod i'n dwp, ond dwi'n TRIO i cadw;r iaith yn fyw sydd yn fwy na chi'n wneud. *sighs* Everyone's a critic.

[Boi140]

@elmo5242 i lived and learnt in powys.

[elmo5242]

@Boi140 Your sense of geography matches your charm. Powys? North? MID Wales maybe not North, Ok perhaps you weren't swearing but I notice you didn't respond to me saying that at least I'm TRYING to keep our language alive, all you're doing is trolling.

[Boi140]

@elmo5242 SORRY SOLID:L

[Boi140]

@elmo5242 WOW! Beth cyfieithydd yn CHI defnyddio? Im 'yn Rhugl. A hyn a ddywedais ddarllen "Peidiwch â cheisio a rhegi!" ... Yn bersonol, nid oeddwn yn rhegi. kthanksbye.

[ElleJ90]

Mate, you are such a bore.

[elmo5242]

@ElleJ90 LOL Tell me how you can judge that from my you tube vids :)

[DdosAllday]

how to do you pronounce machynlleth pl0x

[AetherEthereal]

2 = die? Lol...

[sophieiscolourful]

these are all really helpful, thank you :)

[Auroral3orealis]

Thank you so very much! Your videos are amazing. I really want to learn Welsh, and your videos are of great help :)

[CotopaxiAH1968]

Very entertaining, educational and logical. I love it. I should have watched this BEFORE I went to Wales (including LLandudno :) ) last month :=) Thanks a lot!

[elmo5242]

@CotopaxiAH1968 Croeso! how did you find Llandudno?

[CotopaxiAH1968]

@elmo5242 I was surprised by it because I didn't expect much. We on the way to Betws-y-Coed to climb Yr Wyddfa and we changed trains at Llandudno instead of Llandudno Junction with an hour overlay and we didn't regret it. Fair weather, Saturday afternoon with crowds of people on the beach promenade. A hidden treasure out of the Victorian era, it appears :)

[elmo5242]

@CotopaxiAH1968 LOL It is that, they celebrate that by having a "Victorian Extravaganza" each year with old market stalls, carousels and steam traction engines.

[kikkadbest]

hi im maltese tryin to learn welsh tnx for the great vidios im imperesin some of my friends hehe

[Vindhand]

These are really great videos! Thank you! Diolch yn fawr!

[elmo5242]

@Vindhand Croeso!

[07emorgan]

i've always loved the welsh accent, my grandad was welsh but he died before i was borne + unfortunatly nither of my parents are welsh so i never picked up the accent from living in england, the video's are realy helpfull and i managed to pronounce neary all the words except Llandudno wich i said as something like clan dud duno instead of dud :) + my brother is called william so i might teach him his name in welsh, my dad will know anyway :) but thank you x

[luk0com]

I was taught that "one" is "un" but pronounced "een"

[gsboi]

get a fucking hair cut! lol ;p

[BalletDancer313]

i can pernounce the long word

have been able to since i was 12 :D

[BalletDancer313]

i have a hyphenated surname :$

great my grandad will be well pleased i can speak to him :L

[HighCardWins]

Sounds difficult. I'm not even going to try to learn this.

[princessamy132]

y wouldent u havee put blaenau ffestiniog lol thats a hard one... its where i livee :))

[TheNorseman0]

Llanfairpwllgwyngychgogeryllwy ndropwllantysiologogogoch thats all i can say in welsh lol

[loisgoesrawrr]

Is there some welsh people that don't speak english? Or does everyone speak english, and most people speak welsh too?

And welsh is mostly spoken in northern Wales isn't it? Southern wales is mainly English speaking?

[Doddsy1990a]

I beleive there are some monoglots of Welsh left yes.

[XxWelshxPrincessXx]

@loisgoesrawrr a lot of people in South Wales ( sorry South Walian people! ) don't speak Welsh.. only ones that live in Carmarthen and Llanelli mainly.. alot of North Walian people that have moved to Cardiff speak Welsh so there are a few Welsh Speakers there aswell .. I can tell you that a lot of Mid-Wales speaks it ( near Aberystwyth and Tywyn and Machynlleth and so on.. ) and most of North Wales.. in most of the counties in North Wales more than half the population can speak Welsh fluently.

[whd2002]

General comment: You're a solid, clear teacher, who knows how to pace a beginner's language series.

Specific comment: more, please.

[deusabscondidum]

Your videos are awesome. I have wanted to learn Welsh because my family never taught me anything about Wales, but that's supposed to be our heritage. This makes it so much easier than staring at a bunch of letters and wondering what I'm supposed to be doing.

[separatemindz]

I thought that my language (polish) is hard to pronounce... but I must admit I was wrong! :) There is one worse language ;>

The last with Lanfair just disarmed me... ;)

[phenethylaminedreams]

You seem like the kind of person I'd share a cup of tea with. Languages are fascinating, and I recently discovered i have Welsh roots, so I'm very excited to learn some of ht elanguage, and being fluent would be amazing. I'm a fast learner, and your videos are helping very much. Many thanks from me, silly American!

[Skadoosh417]

Are you northern welsh?

Cuz I though u was pronounced like an I.

Sorry I'm just ttying to learn it on my own.

[phenethylaminedreams]

You can tell North from South very easily by how they ask "How are you?"

North Welsh say "Sut mae?", but South Welsh say "Shw mae?"

[elmo5242]

Yep, I'm from North Welsh

[dionthomaswyn]

dyla ti neud mwy o fidios fel hyn ia chara teg i chdi on gai deud un peth

ti angan hercan lol

[timdaughte]

You should pronounce Gwellian a few times. Have you had any training in phonetics/phonemics? These lessons are helpful for me to hear, but naming the parts of the mouth used to pronounce would help. I haven't gotten too far, but could you discuss the stress used in Welsh. Primary, secondary, what?

[AlexAbused]

Chwarae teg :)

[TheatreFanatic4eva]

thanks so much! Your videos are great, I'm deff subscribing!! :)

[adamjones416]

Fi'n dweud chware teg i chi am ymdrechu i ddysgu'r iaith rwy'n siwr eich bod chi wedi sylwi ar y fideos Dysgu Cymraeg o dan y teitl Walesfforwm, Wel fi sy'n gyfrifol am rheiny. Dalier ati :)

[05lockej]

paid a trio i dysgy pobol i siarad cymraeg os ti'n ddym yn gallu siarad e

[elmo5242]

yr unig problem yw, fedrai siarad cymraeg :)

[cyutaeha]

sweet witch painting!!!

[elmo5242]

LOL it's by my sister's BF and is of her. (She's a big fan of the musical "Wicked") :)

[AnastasiaRuby]

I should have seen this video before making my video about Welsh names!!! :)

[taff91]

Cymru Am Byth.

[jpdfo1982]

I'm a complete noob at Welsh, but isn't Sian supposed to be spelt with a circumflex: Siân? I vaguely remember seeing this latter spelling. I believe an actress by this name is in Dune from 1984. But I could be wrong.

[salphonso]

I'm only learning but I'm no authority on this.  However, in an edition I have (albeit, not a Welsh edition of any sort), the a circumflex is an indication of lengthening. So â seems to be pronounced as in the Welsh "tad" (father), or in the English car. I'm not sure if the circumflex rule applies to names, or the name Siân is of different etymological roots. Therefore, we're nowhere. Help!

[TheatreFanatic4eva]

it is but I doubt he has a â on his keyboard it was probably more convenient. Like instead of Linnéa - linnea or instead of Renée - renee ;-)

[greatwhitepoet]

Very good....wish I had more time to do it.

can you do a vid on the words of Suo Gan.

I love that song and would like to sing it.

[elmo5242]

I'll see what I can do.

[WdZ88]

Hi! I was wondering if you could tell me what 'my welsh name' is. My name is Willemijn. This is a Dutch feminine form of the name william.

[welshwannabe]

Fantastic, we are planning a trip to Wales  (from California) with grandsons 5 & 7 so they are watching your videos to become familiar with their ancestors language!

[Stettina81]

GO WALES!! =)

[Dexelator]

totally agree =D

[harpino2793]

Again this american girl sitting in North Carolina thanks you. I can't wait for vid 4. I am trying to learn Welsh before my baby is born. My family was from Dolgellau.