Part 3 - Pseudoscience in Psychotherapy Hurts People

[ech0dancer]

this really makes me sick.They do this sort of thing ALL the time.They want to "find" justification for why they have been playing you or the system or the insurance in order to keep u coming back.SO they attack the parents indirectly through U."lets delve into your infant memories w hypno & try to nail your mom & dad for being abusers! If its not a PROBLEM right NOW then why delve into it? To dredge up hard feelings & give "actual reasons" to legit U going back & spending tons of BUCKS.Yes ?

[ech0dancer]

@ech0dancer & not saying that its OK if U got abused but IF u did thats SAD & IF theres probs from it getting helps RIGHT & not stuff it BUT all the answers she got from U it seems she WANTED.They LIKE finding DIRT on ppl because they have their own probs & what U say clarifies it n their minds & even justifies their own hate.I swear its a HATE issue.If u were comfy n life@home & no verbal mental bodily abuse she was WRONG to insist when your GUARD was down & trusting her SHES ABUSIVE nvr go bak

[lmollot]

I HOPE youve taken & asserted your adulthood & are not living at home-still- im all for total rights at 14 y o -thats what most cultures do-get yourself free

[lmollot]

i remember things at 5 yrs old & 3 yrs old b/c photos then w toys/clothes- i remember more stuff related to the toys clothes etc- so if you did not remember- why u say "NOONE remembers b4 6 y old?

[lmollot]

well all youth should go to my daughters doctor- lots of conventional pills- 60 pounds weight gain- & no one to talk to- ill give u his phone number- even if u see the prozac ,celecxa etc- medication is for you- & ill pay for it- too- id like to see u after 5 yrs of meds- the entire new generation is brainwashed to poison themselves- & that suits me fine

[PandyFackleresque]

@lmollot I'm really trying to not bring up the fact that you're old enough to at least use proper spelling and grammar when attempting to be semi-insulting in the 5 comments per video that you've been leaving me..

[springrobin]

I notice your command of the english language here, do you write any prose or poetry? That's always a great vehicle.

[springrobin]

...So U'd better pull urself together, get ur head around it & try applying urself, cuz U know u have problems, so it's all U, not her" We know of & use these types of covert tactics in all sorts of interogations & such. I think I'll have to listen to the rest of this in small bits. I know U are feeling the need to appear credible here(another tactic used against U) but I hope U have or will be able 2 get in touch w/ the anger, thats always a product of this. When done appropriately it frees.

[springrobin]

OMG! This is all by design.

Allowing time where nothing dramatic happens reinforces in U, the justification 'see she's not that bad, not unsafe, it's all me.' If it was overtly dramatic & tramatic every time U would stop going.

Setting up the senario -there is so much wrong with U reinforces helplessness & therefore ur need for her, she is ur key to getting better so you'd better cont' to go,stick w/ it & try what she says, or U won't get better & naturally U want to, & want to please.

[margaretschlegel]

I suspect that part of the reason she didn't think your relationship with your boyfriend was abusive was that she was abusing you too. The last thing she wanted was you thinking critically about what healthy relationships are like and what kind of respect you deserve, because then you might catch on to her game.

Side note: Boy, was she out of date. That whole recovered memory thing was debunked in the 1990s.

[matt22mccarthy]

I have vivid memories from junior kindergarten, when I was 3.

[westfalla]

I have memories from roughly 6 months, it's only one but I find it impressive

[UncomfortableSilence]

Oh damn. It's all those alternative psychologists. I loathe them. Not fond of the Psychodynamic perspective. Those people follow Jung and his dogmatic bullshit. I had a psychologist who was ridiculous. She was an alternative psychologist. Alternative Counseling=Bad.

[Ravenne999]

This same scenario happened to the sister of a friend of mine. There were several children in the family, but after hypnosis with a therapist, this one sister was convinced she was molested by her father. None of the other children remember anything even remotely resembling abuse. Tore their family apart.

[KasparHauser4]

And she is making money hand over fist all those months that she has you in therapy. Sweet deal! For her!

[sulthus]

I personaly don't see how you could leave any situation feeling like "whats wrong with me." I've left plunty of situations feeling like "Well fuck them." or "Oh well..."

or "Shit happens." Never has it been "whats wrong with me." No one should ever feel that way even if there is a problem.

[WiseWeeabo]

sad and disturbing... yet arousing... story

[SeaCrone]

again- psychotherapist can't dx anything. They can guess and if they are good their guess will be confirmed by psychiatrist. Medication isn't always needed, but again that's something for patient and psychiatrist to work out. IMHO hypnosis can be helpful, but all hypnosis is really self-hypnosis and it's about clearing and relaxing the mind, but the brain is very creative and it can throw a lot of curve balls so I wouldn't trust "planted" memories. (cont'd)

[SeaCrone]

(cont'd) I can remember some things back to age 2, but that is unusual, and some parts aren't accurate. The brain will fill in stuff that it can't actually recall. I had a vivid memory of an event and I related to someone who shared that time and it turned out that I'd inserted a person who wasn't there. I remembered my grandmother being there & she wasn't - but another elderly woman was - my brain filled in the blanks. A lot of memory is like that. It's not 100% accurate.

[TheTruePooka]

Hypnosis does not work as it is portrayed in fantasy and fiction movies.

I had a professor in an abnormal psych class do a very amusing demonstration of how hypnosis works by using it to hypnotize one student into temporarily believing they attended a different university. :)

[eyhexs]

you should have gone to freud; at least he would have given you cocaine; instead of massages that is

[Maxdwolf]

I never trusted any of my therapists enough to share secrets. What little I remember of all my sessions was utter bs.

[crypter27]

I agree psychiatry is nonsense!

[JustAnotherX]

"Im hungry...feeeeeed meee!" X-D

I can understand why you needed relief. O.O

[LatumWay]

I actually actually do remeber a few things from being an infant. Well before 6 actually.

[PandyFackleresque]

I probably got the age wrong

[LatumWay]

Well wikipedia says the cut off age is around 4. I'm sure I remember quite a lot of stuff when I'm about 2. I'll have to ask my mum about it.

[AislinCade]

@PandyFackleresque Kids gain long-term memory at about 3. Between 3 and 6, though, you won't remember MUCH... but you'll remember some things.

[JacobPhilipRenae]

@PandyFackleresque It's probably 4 or 5, which is about what you said; my cousin claims to remember a conversation from when she was 3, but I think she generated the memory after seeing a photograph that was taken at the time.

LatumWay probably does *not* remember things from her/his infancy; they are most likely false memories, generated either by seeing a picture or being told a story from her/his infancy by a parent, or randomly and bearing only coincidental resemblance to real events.

[ReinetteRenee]

what was your youngest memory.... i know people who's memories didn't start till try were around 5 and i thought this was odd too. I have unclear memories of when i was around the age of 2 i know this cause it was b4 my sister was born

[LatumWay]

I remember crawling on the floor with my brother... and that must have been before the age of 4...

[rtfb]

Wikipedia says the age is 4.

I do remember some episodes, too, but at least for some of them, I noticed they coincide well with reoccurring stories in the family (you know the thing: whenever the wider family gathers, aunts and grandmas reiterate all those things about your childhood). This puts the actual "memories" on suspicion: they might be false memories, put to life by vivid imagination of a child listening to them. Which, in turn, puts all the rest of the earliest memories on question :-)

[LatumWay]

@rtfb Well my memories don't follow this... they are fairly bland. Not nateworthy enough to warrent re-telling.

[PandyFackleresque]

She's, sadly, a real psychologist

[UndeadLight]

It's quite possible that you psychologist was abused by her father. She is putting all this hate for her father on you and your father... But I'm throwing stones in the dark here...

[PandyFackleresque]

Actually, I think you've hit the nail on the head

[Lovingdoubt]

Hypnosis works for creating false memories... not for making new ones. It has been proven the most "memories" recovered in hypnosis aren't real. It's really sad.

I have a degree in psychology and have worked in the mental health field... so this story pains me. I'm glad ur telling it though.

[PandyFackleresque]

She couldnn't anyway. She's a psychologist

[alowlyapprentice]

Welp, I was waiting for something big. When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a ....

Once memories get "planted" and suspicion is there it is hard to get rid of. I guess there is another video coming.

There was an episode of Law & Order SVU that was exactly like what you described in this video.

[H34d5h0t000]

Hypnosis = Placebo

Nothing more, nothing less.

[seriouslymatsteele]

Are you sure about hypnosis? I haven't experienced it personally, but I've seen friends of mine do some pretty stupid things while under hypnosis.

[PandyFackleresque]

Pretty sure about it

[JustEnufEyes]

Great video :) Very informative. It's nice to see someone opening up so honestly.

ps. You're hair looks so nice and healthy in this video.