If u want to convince me that Noah's Ark is real...here's a simple way: REPEAT IT. As we all know, evidence is most convincing when it is repeatable and demonstrable.
Repeat the event for me. I'll spare u the global flood. Just try to put all kinds of animals onto a wooden Ark with dimensions as specified in the Bible. And then try to keep them all alive for at least a week, if not longer...i don't care how you plan to do it, just repeat it alright?
Why is it stupid, did 8 people not repopulate the world? doesn't the bible say so?
You believe a foolish, uneducated phony Ph.d, who thinks the world is 6000 years old made by a magic sky daddy, and who is currently serving time for tax fraud.
You believe that snakes can speak, virgins give birth, dinosaurs lived along side man and that a perfect infallible god could make such a utter mess of creation that he had to wipe it out and start again.
You don't have to go to the Congo, Horseshoe Crabs have been around since 300 million years ago haven't evolved because haven't needed to. Evolution is a fact, these 2 guys are just plain stupid.
Eric Hovind: an expert on all fields of science, PhD's in everything, able to disprove any scientific theory with a few cheeky lines, and only spent a year in college! What a genius. Oh wait....
Just like his father Kent, Eric is very charismatic, and to the gullable and untrained listener he presents a strong fascade. After reading the news papers and court released documents regarding the wealth that CSE has accumulated was mind blowing. Yes religion definately sells. I bet Hovind (when he was free) and now Eric are laughing all the way to the bank. Only an idiot would believe the shit they spout, including the Hovind's.
Kent and Eric are the best snake oil salesmen ever!
just wondering, have anyone who is skeptical about creation actually watched the creation seminars completely? before saying that evolution is truth, watch all of the creation seminars. if you are still not convinced, then fine. you have seen both sides of the argument rather than just one side and im happy for you :)
@KaosEspada "have any[...] skeptical [...]watched the creation seminars completely?"
Do you really think we are skepticals because we're ignorant?
I've been watching every single creationist argument I've found in my entire life, and I can tell you they've all been debunked by TRUE scientists.
"you have seen both sides of the argument"
Yes, we did. The true point is: could the creationists still be creationists after UNDERSTANDING how science works? I honestly don't think they could.
@iloveamberist Yes, maybe I'm lying, and the whole scientific community too. Maybe all of us are part of a worldwide conspiracy against some ancient book
...or maybe the liars are a bunch of religious leaders, which misquote scientists, don't understand a proper scientific explanation and build strawmans and other flawed arguments against science to deceive the less educated people on whose credulity and blind faith they base their own power.
@JoelMckay69 Yes.it's more likely for paranoic persons which are totally ignorant about how science and reality work, and are decepted by guys like Ted Haggard and Kent hovind ...both jailed for their crimes! :D
I think it works quite well considering the subject... though if you're asserting an agreement with this moron, I guess you win the prize then for "Stupid Fuck of the week."
At 4.10 Eric Hovind states that there are three hundred separate accounts from different cultures around the world about the flood of Noah, that killed everyone except eight people on the Ark. Okay, can you see what's wrong with that statement?..... how did these cultures survive to tell about it? The Chinese have a written culture that goes back 5000 years, before the 'flood' to the neo lithic period, how did they survive? Obviously no flood.....
evolution is a religion. Not science. Just a theory. evolution takes faith to believe in it so therefore its a religion. You point out a christian saying so called contradictions yet you accept all the things science says even though its theories always get rejected constantly (theories not truth) yet you believe them . you believe the theory of today and reject yesterdays and then in a few years you,ll reject todays because someone found a new equation. STUPID. its like fashion.
62% of Americans think creation should be taught alongside evolution, 44% think creation should be taught instead of evolution. How can the argument possibly still be made that religion doesn't hinder society.
"75% of kids are leaving the church after high-school ??" Could be a number of other reasons, but it sounds like young people today are actually giving serious thought to bible fables instead of just believing without evidence. After doing so and realizing how little it has to offer, maybe young people are finding the bible irrelevant. Like I said it could be for other reasons, but it sure does parallel the reasons for the mass desertion of religion amongst the rest of the populous.
1) Ignorance: the Hovinds are really too much stupid to understand how evolution works.
2) Brainwashing: the guy grow up with such a father as kent hovind.
3) Dishonesty: they perfectly know religion is a good way to get money, and Eric has been helpfut in hiding some of their properties from government. E.g.: "to hide a motor vehicle title and property deeds to prevent the government from collecting the property to pay for owed debt" (there's a tape about this).
@FreeSilio Ad hominem argument against Creationists just isn't convincing to me. I think I'm persuaded by the Creationists since they don't try to hide behind loud noises, censorship and ad hominem dismissals.
@lomertamahon1 I was replying to banestyrelsen who asked if is this ignorance, brainwashing or dishonesty, so I explained my viewpoint about. So it was not an ad hominem argument to convince anyone.
If you think creationist dont hide behind censorship take a look to the most of their channels, where comments are not allowed or subject to approval.
You believe in creationist arguments only because you blindly believe in the bible (or the qu'ran) and don't understand science. Period.
@FreeSilio It is amazing how people believe in evolution when they were not there at that time. Really stupid. That fact can never be refuted, period! At least God put his word out there as our guide and explained how man was created. It boggles my mind how anyone would want to believe in evolution rather than God. It must have to do with not wanting to be accountable for their sins. You cannot escape Gods judgement, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@iloveamberist People believe in evolution simply because it's the best explanation for the FACTS, and it's based on SCIENTIFIC METHOD, which is the best tool ever developed by humanity to investigate reality in a biasless way.
That's why the overwheelming part of the worldwide scientific community, which includes people from every cultural and religious backgrounds agree on that.
If you have a different SCIENTIFIC theory to promote, we're ready to listen to you.
They believe in evolution because there is huge body of evidence to support it, not on the ravings of primitive desert tribesmen and their book of so called eyewitness acounts written/rewritten/translated and reinterpreted hundreds of years after the supposed events.
If evolution is a lie and god designed all creatures why do bird still have vestigial deactivated genes for making teeth?
the line "It boggles my mind how anyone would want to believe in evolution rather than God"
says it all really, you believe because you prefer to believe, and will continue to despite evidence to the contrary, because you want to believe, in spite of the evidence..
One cannot reason somebody out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
@iloveamberist I accept evolution because of the evidence, the fossils are there for anyone to see at natural history museums and not to mention the DNA evidence. Can you show me the evidence of the creation myth? were you there as an eye witness? I guess not, neither were the anonymous writers of Genesis .....
Idiot evolutionists want us to believe humans have been on earth for 100,000 years. How is it possible for the earths population to go from 2 to 100 million in 98,000 years and then go from 100 million to 7 billion in 2 thousand years? Math and Science back up the young earth theory.
@YesYou123333 your right. at least someones got some sense. god bless you. evolution is a faith therefore areligion. there is no evidence at all. just theories
These Hovind clowns have been publically defaming scientists and the Scientific Community for years, misleading many, many people in the process.
Why hasn't there been some sort of defamation/slander/libel lawsuit brought up against them? I know that 90% of their followers won't even care when they are proven in a court of law to be lying, but even if we only get those remaining 10% to have doubt in what they are saying, that'd be a big step forward.
He's getting more and more evidence that there are still dinosaurs...and not a shred or hint of what evidence he is speaking. His preposterous explanation is possibly as entertaining as the the fictional fairytale he's offering as authentic history. He certainly deserves credit for have the giant gonads and histrionics to keep a composed face while joyously dishing out this great big pile of nonsense.
It would take a large front-end loader to serve such a load of horse$!t. Bon Appetit!
Admittedly, this is a new approach to evidence based on information that is 'forthcoming'. This is entirely new to the process of presenting evidence, quite a novel idea. One has to wonder how long it wil be before lawyers offer this ploy in court. "Your honor, if it pleases the court, we are going to go ahead and enter into evidence what we 'believe we will find after we finish looking". Only the most complete and utterly insouciant fool (A Hovind) would demonstrate such abject embecility.
Junior Hovind has neglected science and reason at least as proficiently as Pa.
Snakes cannot talk and therefore are incapable of deceiving a woman even if the
woman was Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman. His risible explanation of Noah's
little cruise ship with a menagerie of pets, including baby dinosaurs, is the reason that the bible is the most parodied fiction in all literature. Too bad he never troubled himself with developing authentic reasoning and critical thinking skills. Oh well!
How much thousand of dollars this hypocrite earned through speaking engagement spreading false lies and evidenced to people and young generation? . . Eric Howind! are you true to yourself? Did you learned basic science from your elementary level? where did you get this kind of stupid reasoning? Stop deceiving people, only because you want to steal money from them. . One of this days" you will be cooked by your own oil" . .
The thing about the entire population starting with 8 people 4400 years ago is one of the stupidest things I've heard in a while. (mainly due to my studying first order differential equations ad nauseum) To say that the simplified exponential growth model applies to dynamic environments and large populations, and that disease is not a factor, nor predation, nor bottlenecks, nor any other obvious ecological factors, while claiming to know about population dynamics, is idiotic.
Even IF they find undiscovered larger-than-average lizards (yeah dinosaur right!) in the Congo, that wouldnt prove creation by ANY means. Evolution will just slot it into place on the Tree of LIfe :-) Dragons MY ARSE!
That's a pretty bold disclaimer , before the video begins. Evolutionists lie to themselves on a daily basis. About the dinosaur blood , mrmzaccone is missing the point, dinosaurs did not live 65 million years ago , that is fairy tale material , by the way I think the evolution religion should separate from corrupting our real science.
Yeah, this is the kind of idiot kid Kent would have raised. A matter of time? They've been looking for Mokele-mbembe for a hundred fucking years ... nothin'. There was no "fresh dinosaur blood" in bones. What they found were remnants of constituents of blood that had not fossilized as expected. It raises questions but it's not evidence for dinosaurs surviving to modern times. As for examples of "willful ignorance" ... look in the mirror, kid.
LOL this guy is deluded beyond recovery. We will get pictures!! Of something that doesn't exist?? They can find the titanic easier than a neurosurgeon could find this douchebags brain. Like father, like son, what a clone. You can't tell me that people are complete individuals when they are indoctrinated from an early age. Poor bastard.
I think you guys are smarter than God, you must be gods! What is your kingdom? The kingdom of fools! The bible says the fool says in his heart 'there is no god' Ok we know where the fools live! bible-tube(dot)com
@fabienmaga Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca, is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger ...of the fire of hell.
I am reading some real stupid comments by some of you non-believers out there. The more and more you try to disprove the bible, the more you end up proving it. Just by your saying that there is no God, by that claim, you actually say that there is one. You just CHOOSE not to follow Him, and that is your CHOICE. God will not make anyone worship Him. If you CHOOSE to go to hell, then that is your choice. For broad is the way to destruction.
I love how he believes in MokeleyMbembe which is the equivalent of the Lochness monster for the Congo, or bigfoot. He's using mythical creatures now to support the bible. That is just great. So with a book of mythology in one hand and the drug induced hallucinations reports of the Congo natives he disproves science? Classic Hovind moment! Your dad would be proud Eric.
@IShedTears4U "After completing his high school studies at Pensacola Christian Academy in 1997, he graduated from Jackson Hole Bible College in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Co-founded by Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis and Dr. Don Landis of Jackson Hole Community Bible Church, Jackson Hole Bible College was designed to give students a solid biblical foundation with a special creation emphasis."
No, the owner did not remove anything. Why? Because if a vid owner removes a comment, we wont find any trace of this operation in the comment section anymore (e.g. a text like "comment removed"). Btw, this claim can be easily tested. Post a comment e.g. on my latest vid and I will remove it by applying the remove button. You will see you wont be able to find any public trace of your comment on YT anymore. Youd do better if you stopped deceiving yourself, comrade...
As others and I have already pointed out... He didnt attend a "normal" college (e.g. synonymous with he didnt go to college) and he didnt attend a "normal" high school either. All you do is providing verifiable reference exposing Hovind Junior as an intellectual garbage can. Thank you for your participation in this somewhat noble endeavor.
@Wrath0fKhan Ok. So unless you went to a college and got brain washed by a stupid college professor you can't be smart? Well...Bill Gates dropped out, Warren Buffet dropped out, Michael Dell Dropped out, Henry Ford never made it past 6th grade etc. I am a high school drop out and make $600,000 a year. How about you?
None of these guys believed and or taught this kind of nonsense. And even if they did, they simply didnt became famous and or wealthy because of it. For example; we dont remember Newton because of alchemy and bogus Biblical prophecies, but because of calculus and physics.
"high school drop out"
Poor you.
"and make zillions a year"
Yea!
"you"
I live from air only. I connect to the net by sheer thought power! Thats the next level, comrade!
Why...exactly, are you using a TINY percentage (far less than one one-thousandth of a single percent) as a basis for an argument? Not to mention that all men mentioned were essentially geniuses and most of them also came from well off families, which means they had starting money for their companies, which most others don't. It is a pretty well established fact that 99.99% of people who don't have higher degrees tend to crash and burn in their later days.
@tskasa1 Thats a joke. Obvioulsy you know nothing of history or great men. Mr. Ford didn't go past six grade. Thomas Edison had a business partner who hopped trains and showed up dead broke to try and get a deal with Thomas Edison and died a millionaire by selling Edisons inventions. The list goes on. I make over 600,000 a year and I am a high school drop out. Started a IT business from nothing and now have several employees and a large customer base. Hard work, not education makes you.
And this matters because? My point was that he was a genius, not that he graduated college.
"Thomas Edison had a business partner who hopped trains and showed up dead broke to try and get a deal with Thomas Edison and died a millionaire by selling Edisons inventions."
Again, this disqualifies Edison from being a genius...because? It is a well known that Edison had a high IQ, even for a genius.
@tskasa1 I'm not talking about Edison. I am talking about his business partner who was not a genius with a High IQ. He was just a determined man who wouldn't quit and say no. And no...Mr. Ford was not a genius. Far from it. He surrounded himself with people that knew how to get things done and he was a hard worker. Plain and simple.
Now, explain to me why, nearly universally, the most educated countries in the world are, on average, also some of the most prosperous ones? Why the nations that have high numbers of educated citizens are the ones that rake in more money than those without a good educational system.
@tskasa1 The most prosperous country America...is the most prosperous in History because we were a Christian country. Has nothing to do with Education. Entrepreneur's are a dime a dozen in this country everyday. It is the type of people we are. Look at Africa. More resources than America. More oil, diamonds, farm land and they are starving. Wrong god's and they are lazy. Killing and raping each other. Can't Educate them differently. Look at NW, Detroit, Chicago etc. Education didn't help.
So was England. And Spain. And France. And Germany. And Russia (under the Czars). Etc, etc, etc. America's prosperity had absolutely nothing to do with being a Christian nation. It had to do with the fact that America had the best trained engineers in the world that made the military and civilian hardware that the rest of the world wanted. We made the most advanced toys of all, and people bought them.This is no longer true.
@tskasa1 by the way..funny side note. The atom bomb, nutron bomb etc etc..All the real big toys everybody wants. Jews Created them. Funny how that works. Not Gentiles...Jews.
"Entrepreneur's are a dime a dozen in this country everyday."
Yes. And so are bankers. That doesn't mean much. Entrepeneurs are common, but innovators aren't.
"Look at Africa. More resources than America. More oil, diamonds, farm land and they are starving. "
And no way to utilize them and convert it into capital. No engineers and inventors in anywhere near large enough numbers to start a thriving industry. Natural resources mean nothing if you can't utilize them.
...you DO understand that most of Africa's population is either Christian or Muslim, right?
But hey...if you want to go down this road, what about Japan, India, and China? Three of the biggest economic powers of the world, and NONE of them come even close to being Christian nations. And China's and India's economies are steadily expanding and if things don't change soon, are likely to overtake the US'.
@tskasa1 1. Africa's form of Christianity and true Christianity isn't the same. And they have plenty of other garbage. Mostly superstition and voodoo. 2. Japan we built to where they are. We bombed them into oblivion and then built their country. They prosper because of us and no other reason. Same with India and China. We send supplies to them and then buy the crap they make. We send call centers and busienss to them. Not the other way around stupid. If we stop trading they fold up.
"We bombed them into oblivion and then built their country."
Yes...that happened....70 years ago, more or less? I don't see your point. Japan didn't get to where it was until ~20/30 years ago when it became one of the world's centers for the electronics industry.
"Same with India and China. We send supplies to them and then buy the crap they make."
Ehh...not true. We send China food. We send them precious metals. But China is one of the world's largest producers of steel and many other resources it needs for its own good. We don't send China the stuff to make the goods it manufactures, in that sense it's pretty self-sufficient.
...and the same can be said for us seeing that China is the largest holder of our debt and that they, along with India and Japan, produce most of the goods that our economy depends on.
"Look at NW, Detroit, Chicago etc. Education didn't help."
Detroit...isn't this the same Detroit that used to be one of the most prosperous affluent cities in the United States BEFORE we took away their car industry and moved it elsewhere, after which it fell to shambles because essentially all of the educated men (engineers, car designers, and manufacturers) who had brought income into the city were no longer there? You're not doing your argument any good.
@tskasa1 They all moved out because greedy educated told the people to ask for money they weren't worth paying. Then other educated idiots said lets move it over sea's and make more money. Then the lazy started stealing and killing and who wants to live there.
You mean...when the US helped to take it back from the Germans? As in the Nazi Germans?
"Will some people work, yes. But as a society they are lazy."
And your proof to back this baseless claim iss....
"Ever seen an all black rich neighborhood in America?"
I've never seen a hispanic one either. Or an asian one. And the only reason there are white ones is because whites comprise the majority of the population..by a LOT.
Which means that if you randomly pick a person out of the street they are FAR more likely to be white than anything else. But while there ARE less rich black people, it is usually an issue having to do with education, as black people don't usually have the money to afford the education that many upper class white families can, and in the modern world, you need to be educated to make money.
@tskasa1 WHAT!!! Hey fool...my tax dollars give them the same free education I got at a public school. Now I own a business and most of them don't. More scholarships are handed to minorities than whites. Don't give me that crap you fool. Keep lying. We have forced integration in this country. They go to the same schools I do because we are forced too. And I was a high school drop out and make over half a million each year. How much did you say you made?
Yes, and your statement is completely null because personal anecdotes are never an acceptable form of evidence in a debate. ESPECIALLY one that is over the internet where your claims can't be verified.
"We have forced integration in this country."
Ehh, yes. And There is a reason for that...it's called the Constitution.
@tskasa1 Show us in the constitution you fool where it says I have to make my son go to school with yours. Fact is a all black school does better than an integrated school. You are just stupid.
@tskasa1 Ok...so everybody is stupid in all the other countries and their lack of education is why they are so poor and stupid? So give them a book and they will be prosporous? Right. No...educate someone lazy and immoral and they will just learn how to steal better. You are a true socialist idiot.
"Ok...so everybody is stupid in all the other countries and their lack of education is why they are so poor and stupid?"
Well...let's look at education and compare it to the prosperity of the nation. Essentially every country in Europe as well as China, Japan, and Australia have relatively good educational systems or outright great ones. India's is also increasingly becoming better and literacy is going up by a lot.
The aforementioned nations are some of the richest and most prosperous nations in the world. Furthermore in nations such as China and India we've seen their income increase as their educational systems have increased as well. Mixed together with historical economic trends relative to educational trends, we have a pretty damn big correlation between education and a strong economy.
"So give them a book and they will be prosporous?"
Ehh...no. Education is much more than what you learn from a book. They also teach you skills that you need to learn to work in a field. And not to mention that most people wouldn't be able to understand things like math or sciences by reading it right out of a book. Teachers exist for a reason.
@tskasa1 Hey bozo. Our founding fathers could read and write 3 and 4 languages and never went to public school. They were taught at home...no teachers. Science huh? The bible says the earth was round 2,100 years before Columbus figured it out. The Bible says every man has his own hand print over two thousand yrs before man found out. The bible says the moon reflects light, that light travels, that light can be parted and a thousand other science facts. You need an education.
"The africans killed all the whites, raped everything walking and then sat on their butts and started starving."
Yet this isn't remotely true at all. Because the Africans were fighting ALONG side the whites. And in fact in many nations for several decades the whites would continue to hold power and oppress the blacks. Remember Nelson Mandela? Who became South Africa's first black presidet EVER...in 1994?
@tskasa1 I know it. They are doing great too. 20 to 30 rapes a week. We ship condoms to them like water. They did real good after he took over. Straight into the garbage can.
Seriously, all I've learned about you from this conversation is that you are undeducated, racist, anti-semitic, ignorant of history, and completely unaware of the mechanisms (social and economic) of the modern world. It's quite shameful.
"by the way..funny side note. The atom bomb, nutron bomb etc etc..All the real big toys everybody wants. Jews Created them. Funny how that works. Not Gentiles...Jews."
Yet...it was funded and supported by the Christians that filled the US gorvernment and military. Not to mention that the Manhattan Project had MANY people working on it, many of whom were also Christian. Not to mention that Leo Szilard, the one who discovered the way to make nukes actually work, wasn't Jewish.
And finally, yes, there WERE many Jewish people working on the Manhattan Project (and many non-Jews as well). However, this is not an argument at all, seeing as the Manhattan Project was a project that was an application of the discoveries of physics...and guess who who has won 1/5 of all Nobel Prizes ever? The Jews. And guess what many of them got it for? Physics. It's NOT shocking that the people who were coincidentally the best physicists (many of whom were Jews) worked on it.
And one last thing about the people in Africa: Lazy? No. Not lazy. You're just an arrogant ass. Many people in Africa work from literal sunup to sundown doing harsh physical labor to eek out tiny incomes to survive. This is far from what one could call lazy. Alas this is what happened when your general populace is uneducated, you can't get industry started, and you tend to get stuck in very bad economic conditions.
@tskasa1 Right...History lesson boy. They had everything they needs to farm the thousands of acres of land. When the US helped take it from the Europeans the africans killed all the whites, raped everything walking and then sat on their butts and started starving. They look for hand outs. Will some people work, yes. But as a society they are lazy. Ever seen an all black rich neighborhood in America? I rest my case.
@tskasa1 According to ALL Records, the africans farm less than 1% of the land the Europeans did. All the equipment is still there. Just got rid of the white people doing it.
"the africans farm less than 1% of the land the Europeans did. All the equipment is still there. Just got rid of the white people doing it."
Okay then. What about fertilizer? And maintenance for these machines, they DO deteriorate and break down after a relatively short period of time. And what of things such as fertilizers? The oil needed to feed the farm machinery? The fresh water that is needed to feed the crops and the waterways to carry them there.
@tskasa1 Get a map fool. Rivers all over the country. Lakes and Oceans. No the equipment doesn't break down that quick and easy. You haven't ever farmed a day in your life I have. Tractors last longer than three cars.
...Did you just call...Africa...a country? And you're calling me a fool? You called one of the seven continents...a country? Oh, the sheer irony of it all.
But about your point about maps...a map? As in the map whose few inches are equal to MILES? Yes, just because things look close together on a map doesn't mean that in reality they are right next door to one another. You STILL have to make waterways to carry that water the MANY miles from the rivers to the site you're irrigating. And then of course, there is the all too present possibility of salt-water run offs or an unclean water supply.
Many are salty, which means it can't be used for agriculture. And you still have the transportation problem present.
"Oceans"
Are full of SALT water, which CANNOT be used for agricultural purposes unless you go through the VERY expensive process of refining it to get all the salt out.
"No the equipment doesn't break down that quick and easy."
Ehhh, yes, it does. Farm equipment breaks down all the time. Just like ALL other machines. Even if it takes a few years, that is besides the point and the problem remains. Are you honestly going to say that farm equipment can last forever? Not to mention that equipment lasts even less than normal when it is left to nature to decay and corrode and is ignored.
"You haven't ever farmed a day in your life I have."
Again, personal anecdotes mean jack-shit in a debate. ESPECIALLY when they are unverifiable, as ALL of your personal anecdotes just so happen to be. Honestly, it is hard to get more intellectually dishonest than you. You not only state outright lies (for example, your blatant lie about the blacks somehow controlling countries like South Africa for decades on end), but you try to weed in inaccuracies and falsehoods as well.
Then what about the training needed to teach these people how to use these machines effectively. The list goes on and on and on. And all of this is VERY expensive, and the startup costs exceed what most people can afford to pay.
@tskasa1 You better go back and do your math. I personally know several millionaires that are just that from doing nothing but hard work and saving. These are people that worked an assembly line in factories and one worked for the TVA. Then compare that to the number of jobless college people who can't get a job doing what they went to college for. Education is not the pennicle of being successful. Hard work is.
Im smart enough to know that if the world was about 10k years old the required accelerated rate of atomic decay (in this specific model) would have turned this place into a cesspool of highly radioactive byproducts, making life as we know it impossible. Even better, the released energy would be enough to turn whole Earth into a crème brûlée...
@7tylerjb god called for blood on many occassions in the bible, admittedly killing innocent women and children fathers brothers sons in the plagues and in the flood which you so violently believe. if your god does exist (which he doesnt) he exists in your world of sin, and he is accountable for his actions. im sorry to say that your god is then an insecure teenager and not perfect and a murdering ego maniacle monster
@Ututwhynot God murdered for good reason. He didn't just kill them for fun. Some that he killed are still going to heaven. Why do you think the new testament was made? It's a fresh start.
@7tylerjb ur the kind of person taht can see murder as acceptable. god murdered them for good reason, suppose god killed everyone you knew and loved. for good reason thats an amazingly disgusting statement, and shows you truly are warped in your mind. and if god is perfect and everything he does is good, why would he need a fresh start
@7tylerjb i do not put limits on god. the universe does... for your god to exist in this world he cannot violate natural laws without "magic" and im sorry but your impotent god CANNOT ever be proven, as he exists solely by "magic" he is an intellectual dead end. and a murderer, why put us here for such a short time just to die then go up with him again, there is no reason and "its his plan" just doesnt cut it for rational logical people
@7tylerjb so please dont talk for an entire group of people calling them "sinners" its ignorant rude bigoted and just makes you stand out for the idiot you really are, you use circular logic and you are wasting the one life you have
@Ututwhynot We are all sinners. But the atheist's sin is largely more than just a sin. It rejects God. This is the biggest sin someone can make. We are all inherently bad as the bible dictates. We are all sinners so we must confess and ask for forgiveness. Believe and you shall be saved!
"But the atheist's sin is largely more than just a sin. It rejects God."
So why does God make it so very very very hard for intellegent people to believe in his Holy Book. I guess God doesn't like geologists or cosomologists. That is why he has created a 6,000 year old universe that appears to be so very very much older.
Well if God did stretch out the heavens as you say.... you wouldn't have seen it at all. You need to realise looking into space is like looking back in time. A galaxy 1 billion light years away is the same as looking at a galaxy 1 billion years old. The light from the stars you see in the sky has taken much longer than the age you claim the Earth is to reach us. You fail. And since God made the Earth before the heavens, he fails as well
Well if God did stretch out the heavens as you say.... you wouldn't have seen it at all. You need to realise looking into space is like looking back in time. A galaxy 1 billion light years away is the same as looking at a galaxy 1 billion years ago. The light from the stars you see in the sky has taken much longer than the age you claim the Earth is to reach us. You fail. And since God made the Earth before the heavens, he fails as well.
i would love to see some guy take that "evidence" to work the next day. memorising something is hard enough, but when there is no actual point in there they are just going to be shot down.
Hey creationists!
If u want to convince me that Noah's Ark is real...here's a simple way: REPEAT IT. As we all know, evidence is most convincing when it is repeatable and demonstrable.
Repeat the event for me. I'll spare u the global flood. Just try to put all kinds of animals onto a wooden Ark with dimensions as specified in the Bible. And then try to keep them all alive for at least a week, if not longer...i don't care how you plan to do it, just repeat it alright?
If u can't, then stfu!
Casshyr 1 week ago
Noah his wife, 3 sons, and 3 daughter repopulated the world.
Incest endorsed by god, practiced by creationist everywhere.
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@AndyCielecki That is a very stupid thing to say. Get your head out of your ass!!!!
iloveamberist 3 weeks ago
@iloveamberist
Why is it stupid, did 8 people not repopulate the world? doesn't the bible say so?
You believe a foolish, uneducated phony Ph.d, who thinks the world is 6000 years old made by a magic sky daddy, and who is currently serving time for tax fraud.
You believe that snakes can speak, virgins give birth, dinosaurs lived along side man and that a perfect infallible god could make such a utter mess of creation that he had to wipe it out and start again.
Where's your head at?
AndyCielecki 3 weeks ago
Dear Kindred1a1,
Fuck you. I just lost a bunch of things that i need to function properly.
Sincerely,
Your brain.
Kindred1a1 1 month ago
You don't have to go to the Congo, Horseshoe Crabs have been around since 300 million years ago haven't evolved because haven't needed to. Evolution is a fact, these 2 guys are just plain stupid.
menriquex 2 months ago
@menriquex WRONG again!
iloveamberist 3 weeks ago
Go ahead, laugh and mock him. They ridiculed Noah too just before the flood washed them all away.
Rayz2cents 2 months ago 2
@Rayz2cents And they ridiculed Jesus and look what happened to him.
Oh yeah - he got crucified...
jagara1 1 month ago
@Rayz2cents
What flood?
MrSantaClaws1001 1 month ago
This guy displays such breathtaking ignorance that it's curiously entertaining.
kinc1967 2 months ago
Diamonds are carbon.
babakkatt 3 months ago
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha phahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Oh oh oh hahahahahahahahahahaa. Ahahahahahahahahahaha. Ow ow ow ow hahahahahahahahahahaa.
racegirl87 3 months ago
Stupidity has a face.
LoneRookRS1 3 months ago
A total Nutjob just like his Father....
He probably saw 'Journey to the centre of the Earth' and thought it was a documentary....
MegaPaul71 4 months ago
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jocylean 4 months ago
Eric Hovind: an expert on all fields of science, PhD's in everything, able to disprove any scientific theory with a few cheeky lines, and only spent a year in college! What a genius. Oh wait....
Ledwix 5 months ago
Just like his father Kent, Eric is very charismatic, and to the gullable and untrained listener he presents a strong fascade. After reading the news papers and court released documents regarding the wealth that CSE has accumulated was mind blowing. Yes religion definately sells. I bet Hovind (when he was free) and now Eric are laughing all the way to the bank. Only an idiot would believe the shit they spout, including the Hovind's.
Kent and Eric are the best snake oil salesmen ever!
BigMrSox 5 months ago
just wondering, have anyone who is skeptical about creation actually watched the creation seminars completely? before saying that evolution is truth, watch all of the creation seminars. if you are still not convinced, then fine. you have seen both sides of the argument rather than just one side and im happy for you :)
KaosEspada 5 months ago
@KaosEspada "have any[...] skeptical [...]watched the creation seminars completely?"
Do you really think we are skepticals because we're ignorant?
I've been watching every single creationist argument I've found in my entire life, and I can tell you they've all been debunked by TRUE scientists.
"you have seen both sides of the argument"
Yes, we did. The true point is: could the creationists still be creationists after UNDERSTANDING how science works? I honestly don't think they could.
FreeSilio 5 months ago 2
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@KaosEspada "have any[...] skeptical [...]watched the creation seminars completely?"
Do you really think we are skepticals because we're ignorant?
I've been watching every single creationist argument I've found in my entire life, and I can tell you they've all been debunked by TRUE scientists.
"you have seen both sides of the argument"
Yes, we did. The true point is: could the creationists still be creationists after UNDERSTANDING how science works? I honestly don't think they could.
FreeSilio 5 months ago 2
@FreeSilio I think you are lying to everyone!
iloveamberist 3 weeks ago
@iloveamberist Yes, maybe I'm lying, and the whole scientific community too. Maybe all of us are part of a worldwide conspiracy against some ancient book
...or maybe the liars are a bunch of religious leaders, which misquote scientists, don't understand a proper scientific explanation and build strawmans and other flawed arguments against science to deceive the less educated people on whose credulity and blind faith they base their own power.
Which one is more likely to be true?
FreeSilio 3 weeks ago 4
@FreeSilio scientist lie... that is more likely.
JoelMckay69 2 days ago
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@JoelMckay69 Yes.it's more likely for paranoic persons which are totally ignorant about how science and reality work, and are decepted by guys like Ted Haggard and Kent hovind ...both jailed for their crimes! :D
FreeSilio 2 days ago
Wow... what a magnanimous fucking idiot... just wow.
nolobede 6 months ago
@nolobede
Speaking of fucking idiots, try looking up that ten dollar word you tried to use. Doesn't really work, does it?
nihtwael 4 months ago
@nihtwael \
I think it works quite well considering the subject... though if you're asserting an agreement with this moron, I guess you win the prize then for "Stupid Fuck of the week."
nolobede 4 months ago
yup he's gay
FUwogs 6 months ago
At 4.10 Eric Hovind states that there are three hundred separate accounts from different cultures around the world about the flood of Noah, that killed everyone except eight people on the Ark. Okay, can you see what's wrong with that statement?..... how did these cultures survive to tell about it? The Chinese have a written culture that goes back 5000 years, before the 'flood' to the neo lithic period, how did they survive? Obviously no flood.....
ianjrivers 6 months ago
@ianjrivers There was a flood!
iloveamberist 3 weeks ago
@iloveamberist Do believe it was a worldwide flood? One that killed all but eight people 4400 years ago? It's nonsensical .....
ianjrivers 2 weeks ago
evolution is a religion. Not science. Just a theory. evolution takes faith to believe in it so therefore its a religion. You point out a christian saying so called contradictions yet you accept all the things science says even though its theories always get rejected constantly (theories not truth) yet you believe them . you believe the theory of today and reject yesterdays and then in a few years you,ll reject todays because someone found a new equation. STUPID. its like fashion.
irishbarrycooper 6 months ago
"The Earth is only a few thousand years old, as proven by Science" Excuse me. I think my spit-take just fried my monitor.
colonelnj10 6 months ago
62% of Americans think creation should be taught alongside evolution, 44% think creation should be taught instead of evolution. How can the argument possibly still be made that religion doesn't hinder society.
rememberthename33 7 months ago
"75% of kids are leaving the church after high-school ??" Could be a number of other reasons, but it sounds like young people today are actually giving serious thought to bible fables instead of just believing without evidence. After doing so and realizing how little it has to offer, maybe young people are finding the bible irrelevant. Like I said it could be for other reasons, but it sure does parallel the reasons for the mass desertion of religion amongst the rest of the populous.
orangemod 8 months ago
He is just repeating his father's BS verbatim. Ignorance, brainwashing or dishonesty?
banestyrelsen 8 months ago
@banestyrelsen A bit of each:
1) Ignorance: the Hovinds are really too much stupid to understand how evolution works.
2) Brainwashing: the guy grow up with such a father as kent hovind.
3) Dishonesty: they perfectly know religion is a good way to get money, and Eric has been helpfut in hiding some of their properties from government. E.g.: "to hide a motor vehicle title and property deeds to prevent the government from collecting the property to pay for owed debt" (there's a tape about this).
FreeSilio 8 months ago 13
@FreeSilio may God have mercy on your soul
KaosEspada 5 months ago
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@KaosEspada May the light of reason wake up your brain.
FreeSilio 5 months ago 5
@FreeSilio Ad hominem argument against Creationists just isn't convincing to me. I think I'm persuaded by the Creationists since they don't try to hide behind loud noises, censorship and ad hominem dismissals.
lomertamahon1 4 months ago
@lomertamahon1 I was replying to banestyrelsen who asked if is this ignorance, brainwashing or dishonesty, so I explained my viewpoint about. So it was not an ad hominem argument to convince anyone.
If you think creationist dont hide behind censorship take a look to the most of their channels, where comments are not allowed or subject to approval.
You believe in creationist arguments only because you blindly believe in the bible (or the qu'ran) and don't understand science. Period.
FreeSilio 3 months ago
@FreeSilio It is amazing how people believe in evolution when they were not there at that time. Really stupid. That fact can never be refuted, period! At least God put his word out there as our guide and explained how man was created. It boggles my mind how anyone would want to believe in evolution rather than God. It must have to do with not wanting to be accountable for their sins. You cannot escape Gods judgement, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iloveamberist 3 weeks ago
@iloveamberist People believe in evolution simply because it's the best explanation for the FACTS, and it's based on SCIENTIFIC METHOD, which is the best tool ever developed by humanity to investigate reality in a biasless way.
That's why the overwheelming part of the worldwide scientific community, which includes people from every cultural and religious backgrounds agree on that.
If you have a different SCIENTIFIC theory to promote, we're ready to listen to you.
FreeSilio 3 weeks ago 3
@iloveamberist
They believe in evolution because there is huge body of evidence to support it, not on the ravings of primitive desert tribesmen and their book of so called eyewitness acounts written/rewritten/translated and reinterpreted hundreds of years after the supposed events.
If evolution is a lie and god designed all creatures why do bird still have vestigial deactivated genes for making teeth?
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@iloveamberist
the line "It boggles my mind how anyone would want to believe in evolution rather than God"
says it all really, you believe because you prefer to believe, and will continue to despite evidence to the contrary, because you want to believe, in spite of the evidence..
One cannot reason somebody out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
AndyCielecki 3 weeks ago
@iloveamberist I accept evolution because of the evidence, the fossils are there for anyone to see at natural history museums and not to mention the DNA evidence. Can you show me the evidence of the creation myth? were you there as an eye witness? I guess not, neither were the anonymous writers of Genesis .....
ianjrivers 2 weeks ago
Is this guy for real? Where is all this evidence he is talking about? Can you show me? what a fucking idiot.
TheSilas20 8 months ago
Idiot evolutionists want us to believe humans have been on earth for 100,000 years. How is it possible for the earths population to go from 2 to 100 million in 98,000 years and then go from 100 million to 7 billion in 2 thousand years? Math and Science back up the young earth theory.
YesYou123333 9 months ago
@YesYou123333 there are so many things wrong with what you just said I have to assume you're a poe.
stiimuli 8 months ago
@YesYou123333 your right. at least someones got some sense. god bless you. evolution is a faith therefore areligion. there is no evidence at all. just theories
irishbarrycooper 6 months ago
These Hovind clowns have been publically defaming scientists and the Scientific Community for years, misleading many, many people in the process.
Why hasn't there been some sort of defamation/slander/libel lawsuit brought up against them? I know that 90% of their followers won't even care when they are proven in a court of law to be lying, but even if we only get those remaining 10% to have doubt in what they are saying, that'd be a big step forward.
ijustwannawatchshite 10 months ago
He's getting more and more evidence that there are still dinosaurs...and not a shred or hint of what evidence he is speaking. His preposterous explanation is possibly as entertaining as the the fictional fairytale he's offering as authentic history. He certainly deserves credit for have the giant gonads and histrionics to keep a composed face while joyously dishing out this great big pile of nonsense.
It would take a large front-end loader to serve such a load of horse$!t. Bon Appetit!
therearenogodsatall 10 months ago
Admittedly, this is a new approach to evidence based on information that is 'forthcoming'. This is entirely new to the process of presenting evidence, quite a novel idea. One has to wonder how long it wil be before lawyers offer this ploy in court. "Your honor, if it pleases the court, we are going to go ahead and enter into evidence what we 'believe we will find after we finish looking". Only the most complete and utterly insouciant fool (A Hovind) would demonstrate such abject embecility.
therearenogodsatall 10 months ago
Junior Hovind has neglected science and reason at least as proficiently as Pa.
Snakes cannot talk and therefore are incapable of deceiving a woman even if the
woman was Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman. His risible explanation of Noah's
little cruise ship with a menagerie of pets, including baby dinosaurs, is the reason that the bible is the most parodied fiction in all literature. Too bad he never troubled himself with developing authentic reasoning and critical thinking skills. Oh well!
therearenogodsatall 10 months ago
How much thousand of dollars this hypocrite earned through speaking engagement spreading false lies and evidenced to people and young generation? . . Eric Howind! are you true to yourself? Did you learned basic science from your elementary level? where did you get this kind of stupid reasoning? Stop deceiving people, only because you want to steal money from them. . One of this days" you will be cooked by your own oil" . .
vicdams 11 months ago
you mean your dad the convict
PloughmanSmale 1 year ago
Alot of willfully ignorant people leaving comments
bethluvshermeeko 1 year ago
Im not even sure he finished elementary school.
wootafook 1 year ago
If he didn't go to college, or go to a normal HS....does that mean that most of you can't tie your shoes?
Peanut3381 1 year ago
Witness the result of home schooling.
Trukkerkeps 1 year ago
"The human population is evidence"...He's such a moron.
jisaid08 1 year ago
Go Eric!
eagleeye2102 1 year ago
The thing about the entire population starting with 8 people 4400 years ago is one of the stupidest things I've heard in a while. (mainly due to my studying first order differential equations ad nauseum) To say that the simplified exponential growth model applies to dynamic environments and large populations, and that disease is not a factor, nor predation, nor bottlenecks, nor any other obvious ecological factors, while claiming to know about population dynamics, is idiotic.
Ledwix 1 year ago
Even IF they find undiscovered larger-than-average lizards (yeah dinosaur right!) in the Congo, that wouldnt prove creation by ANY means. Evolution will just slot it into place on the Tree of LIfe :-) Dragons MY ARSE!
adey5 1 year ago
Fresh dinosaur bones? These people are idiots, well what should we expect if they are the result of inbreeding.
Aydosh1991 1 year ago
Eric was Home schooled?
jminion1947 1 year ago
That's a pretty bold disclaimer , before the video begins. Evolutionists lie to themselves on a daily basis. About the dinosaur blood , mrmzaccone is missing the point, dinosaurs did not live 65 million years ago , that is fairy tale material , by the way I think the evolution religion should separate from corrupting our real science.
TurboGrassHopper 1 year ago
Yeah, this is the kind of idiot kid Kent would have raised. A matter of time? They've been looking for Mokele-mbembe for a hundred fucking years ... nothin'. There was no "fresh dinosaur blood" in bones. What they found were remnants of constituents of blood that had not fossilized as expected. It raises questions but it's not evidence for dinosaurs surviving to modern times. As for examples of "willful ignorance" ... look in the mirror, kid.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago 3
ore uneducated lies!
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klute007 1 year ago
LOL this guy is deluded beyond recovery. We will get pictures!! Of something that doesn't exist?? They can find the titanic easier than a neurosurgeon could find this douchebags brain. Like father, like son, what a clone. You can't tell me that people are complete individuals when they are indoctrinated from an early age. Poor bastard.
725672567256 1 year ago
I think you guys are smarter than God, you must be gods! What is your kingdom? The kingdom of fools! The bible says the fool says in his heart 'there is no god' Ok we know where the fools live! bible-tube(dot)com
fabienmaga 1 year ago
@fabienmaga Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca, is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger ...of the fire of hell.
flemjob 1 year ago
I am reading some real stupid comments by some of you non-believers out there. The more and more you try to disprove the bible, the more you end up proving it. Just by your saying that there is no God, by that claim, you actually say that there is one. You just CHOOSE not to follow Him, and that is your CHOICE. God will not make anyone worship Him. If you CHOOSE to go to hell, then that is your choice. For broad is the way to destruction.
SCUBAJAY316 1 year ago
I like this! He´s better than many comedians at making me laugh in an uncomfortable kind of way.
LessChess 1 year ago
@LessChess Tht's always better than boring me to tear with monkey lies from the evolution fairy tale!
fabienmaga 1 year ago
@fabienmaga Yes, the truth can be boring when you´re used to these kind of fairytales.
LessChess 1 year ago 2
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@LessChess That's always better than boring me to tear with monkey lies from the evolution fairy tale!
fabienmaga 1 year ago
i can't believe he is married, he is so annoying. i could not stand him if i was his woman.
Erickaf 1 year ago
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@Erickaf Who said that he would marry you? I think you caracter does not match his level! You would not deserve him
fabienmaga 1 year ago
I like the part when he calls scientists "willingly ignorant" just as I was thinking the same thing about him. Classic.
brennakj 1 year ago
Wonder if he knows what a gorgonopsid is.
Cardigen 1 year ago
I love how he believes in MokeleyMbembe which is the equivalent of the Lochness monster for the Congo, or bigfoot. He's using mythical creatures now to support the bible. That is just great. So with a book of mythology in one hand and the drug induced hallucinations reports of the Congo natives he disproves science? Classic Hovind moment! Your dad would be proud Eric.
jisaid08 1 year ago
Kent and Eric should be more like God and Jesus...
...you know, nonexistent...
Meurglys33 1 year ago 8
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@IShedTears4U "After completing his high school studies at Pensacola Christian Academy in 1997, he graduated from Jackson Hole Bible College in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Co-founded by Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis and Dr. Don Landis of Jackson Hole Community Bible Church, Jackson Hole Bible College was designed to give students a solid biblical foundation with a special creation emphasis."
Translation: he's clueless. And full of shit.
Meurglys33 1 year ago
What a complete and utter moron. I'm a complete novice at this, yet I was able to refute every one of his claims off the top of my head.
BrownGargantua 1 year ago 2
@BrownGargantua he is good pwning practice
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Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@IShedTears4U
No, the owner did not remove anything. Why? Because if a vid owner removes a comment, we wont find any trace of this operation in the comment section anymore (e.g. a text like "comment removed"). Btw, this claim can be easily tested. Post a comment e.g. on my latest vid and I will remove it by applying the remove button. You will see you wont be able to find any public trace of your comment on YT anymore. Youd do better if you stopped deceiving yourself, comrade...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@IShedTears4U
Thats not my opinion at all. Was it some divine insight, some providence that moved you to remove that nonsense? ;-)
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@IShedTears4U
As others and I have already pointed out... He didnt attend a "normal" college (e.g. synonymous with he didnt go to college) and he didnt attend a "normal" high school either. All you do is providing verifiable reference exposing Hovind Junior as an intellectual garbage can. Thank you for your participation in this somewhat noble endeavor.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 6
@Wrath0fKhan Ok. So unless you went to a college and got brain washed by a stupid college professor you can't be smart? Well...Bill Gates dropped out, Warren Buffet dropped out, Michael Dell Dropped out, Henry Ford never made it past 6th grade etc. I am a high school drop out and make $600,000 a year. How about you?
TheMedde 11 months ago
@TheMedde
"So unless you .. it past 6th grade etc."
None of these guys believed and or taught this kind of nonsense. And even if they did, they simply didnt became famous and or wealthy because of it. For example; we dont remember Newton because of alchemy and bogus Biblical prophecies, but because of calculus and physics.
"high school drop out"
Poor you.
"and make zillions a year"
Yea!
"you"
I live from air only. I connect to the net by sheer thought power! Thats the next level, comrade!
Wrath0fKhan 11 months ago 6
@Wrath0fKhan Jesus Christ was and is the most famous person in History.
TheMedde 11 months ago
@TheMedde
Sounds great! What a cacophony! lol
Wrath0fKhan 11 months ago
@TheMedde
Why...exactly, are you using a TINY percentage (far less than one one-thousandth of a single percent) as a basis for an argument? Not to mention that all men mentioned were essentially geniuses and most of them also came from well off families, which means they had starting money for their companies, which most others don't. It is a pretty well established fact that 99.99% of people who don't have higher degrees tend to crash and burn in their later days.
tskasa1 11 months ago
@tskasa1 Thats a joke. Obvioulsy you know nothing of history or great men. Mr. Ford didn't go past six grade. Thomas Edison had a business partner who hopped trains and showed up dead broke to try and get a deal with Thomas Edison and died a millionaire by selling Edisons inventions. The list goes on. I make over 600,000 a year and I am a high school drop out. Started a IT business from nothing and now have several employees and a large customer base. Hard work, not education makes you.
TheMedde 11 months ago
@TheMedde
"Mr. Ford didn't go past six grade."
And this matters because? My point was that he was a genius, not that he graduated college.
"Thomas Edison had a business partner who hopped trains and showed up dead broke to try and get a deal with Thomas Edison and died a millionaire by selling Edisons inventions."
Again, this disqualifies Edison from being a genius...because? It is a well known that Edison had a high IQ, even for a genius.
tskasa1 11 months ago
@tskasa1 I'm not talking about Edison. I am talking about his business partner who was not a genius with a High IQ. He was just a determined man who wouldn't quit and say no. And no...Mr. Ford was not a genius. Far from it. He surrounded himself with people that knew how to get things done and he was a hard worker. Plain and simple.
TheMedde 11 months ago
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@TheMedde
"He was just a determined man who wouldn't quit and say no. And no...Mr. Ford was not a genius. Far from it."
And still comprises less than one thousandth of one percent of cases.
"He surrounded himself with people that knew how to get things done and he was a hard worker."
In other words....if it hadn't been for these very educated people...he wouldn't have made his fortune, now would he?
tskasa1 11 months ago
@TheMedde
Now, explain to me why, nearly universally, the most educated countries in the world are, on average, also some of the most prosperous ones? Why the nations that have high numbers of educated citizens are the ones that rake in more money than those without a good educational system.
tskasa1 11 months ago
@tskasa1 The most prosperous country America...is the most prosperous in History because we were a Christian country. Has nothing to do with Education. Entrepreneur's are a dime a dozen in this country everyday. It is the type of people we are. Look at Africa. More resources than America. More oil, diamonds, farm land and they are starving. Wrong god's and they are lazy. Killing and raping each other. Can't Educate them differently. Look at NW, Detroit, Chicago etc. Education didn't help.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"History because we were a Christian country."
So was England. And Spain. And France. And Germany. And Russia (under the Czars). Etc, etc, etc. America's prosperity had absolutely nothing to do with being a Christian nation. It had to do with the fact that America had the best trained engineers in the world that made the military and civilian hardware that the rest of the world wanted. We made the most advanced toys of all, and people bought them.This is no longer true.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 by the way..funny side note. The atom bomb, nutron bomb etc etc..All the real big toys everybody wants. Jews Created them. Funny how that works. Not Gentiles...Jews.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"Entrepreneur's are a dime a dozen in this country everyday."
Yes. And so are bankers. That doesn't mean much. Entrepeneurs are common, but innovators aren't.
"Look at Africa. More resources than America. More oil, diamonds, farm land and they are starving. "
And no way to utilize them and convert it into capital. No engineers and inventors in anywhere near large enough numbers to start a thriving industry. Natural resources mean nothing if you can't utilize them.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"Wrong god's and they are lazy."
...you DO understand that most of Africa's population is either Christian or Muslim, right?
But hey...if you want to go down this road, what about Japan, India, and China? Three of the biggest economic powers of the world, and NONE of them come even close to being Christian nations. And China's and India's economies are steadily expanding and if things don't change soon, are likely to overtake the US'.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 1. Africa's form of Christianity and true Christianity isn't the same. And they have plenty of other garbage. Mostly superstition and voodoo. 2. Japan we built to where they are. We bombed them into oblivion and then built their country. They prosper because of us and no other reason. Same with India and China. We send supplies to them and then buy the crap they make. We send call centers and busienss to them. Not the other way around stupid. If we stop trading they fold up.
TheMedde 10 months ago
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@TheMedde
"Africa's form of Christianity and true Christianity isn't the same. And they have plenty of other garbage. Mostly superstition and voodoo"
Ahh, the "No True Scottsman" logical fallacy. 'Alas, Catholicism is Christianity as well whether you like it or not.
Also, as far as Voodoo, etc. goes...so has America...for the last few centuries....
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"We bombed them into oblivion and then built their country."
Yes...that happened....70 years ago, more or less? I don't see your point. Japan didn't get to where it was until ~20/30 years ago when it became one of the world's centers for the electronics industry.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"Same with India and China. We send supplies to them and then buy the crap they make."
Ehh...not true. We send China food. We send them precious metals. But China is one of the world's largest producers of steel and many other resources it needs for its own good. We don't send China the stuff to make the goods it manufactures, in that sense it's pretty self-sufficient.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"If we stop trading they fold up."
...and the same can be said for us seeing that China is the largest holder of our debt and that they, along with India and Japan, produce most of the goods that our economy depends on.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"Look at NW, Detroit, Chicago etc. Education didn't help."
Detroit...isn't this the same Detroit that used to be one of the most prosperous affluent cities in the United States BEFORE we took away their car industry and moved it elsewhere, after which it fell to shambles because essentially all of the educated men (engineers, car designers, and manufacturers) who had brought income into the city were no longer there? You're not doing your argument any good.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 They all moved out because greedy educated told the people to ask for money they weren't worth paying. Then other educated idiots said lets move it over sea's and make more money. Then the lazy started stealing and killing and who wants to live there.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"When the US helped take it from the Europeans"
You mean...when the US helped to take it back from the Germans? As in the Nazi Germans?
"Will some people work, yes. But as a society they are lazy."
And your proof to back this baseless claim iss....
"Ever seen an all black rich neighborhood in America?"
I've never seen a hispanic one either. Or an asian one. And the only reason there are white ones is because whites comprise the majority of the population..by a LOT.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
Which means that if you randomly pick a person out of the street they are FAR more likely to be white than anything else. But while there ARE less rich black people, it is usually an issue having to do with education, as black people don't usually have the money to afford the education that many upper class white families can, and in the modern world, you need to be educated to make money.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 WHAT!!! Hey fool...my tax dollars give them the same free education I got at a public school. Now I own a business and most of them don't. More scholarships are handed to minorities than whites. Don't give me that crap you fool. Keep lying. We have forced integration in this country. They go to the same schools I do because we are forced too. And I was a high school drop out and make over half a million each year. How much did you say you made?
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"Now I own a business and most of them don't."
Yes, and your statement is completely null because personal anecdotes are never an acceptable form of evidence in a debate. ESPECIALLY one that is over the internet where your claims can't be verified.
"We have forced integration in this country."
Ehh, yes. And There is a reason for that...it's called the Constitution.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 Show us in the constitution you fool where it says I have to make my son go to school with yours. Fact is a all black school does better than an integrated school. You are just stupid.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"And I was a high school drop out and make over half a million each year."
And again, this "point" is useless because it cannot be independently verified. I'll say it again, Personal Anecdotes are NOT a form of evidence.
"How much did you say you made?"
Ad Hominem? Yeah-no. This is completely non-topical. Also, you know that thing I keep saying about personal anecdotes? It applies here too.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 That's your way of saying you lift up education but you are broke and stupid.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@tskasa1 Ok...so everybody is stupid in all the other countries and their lack of education is why they are so poor and stupid? So give them a book and they will be prosporous? Right. No...educate someone lazy and immoral and they will just learn how to steal better. You are a true socialist idiot.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"Ok...so everybody is stupid in all the other countries and their lack of education is why they are so poor and stupid?"
Well...let's look at education and compare it to the prosperity of the nation. Essentially every country in Europe as well as China, Japan, and Australia have relatively good educational systems or outright great ones. India's is also increasingly becoming better and literacy is going up by a lot.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
The aforementioned nations are some of the richest and most prosperous nations in the world. Furthermore in nations such as China and India we've seen their income increase as their educational systems have increased as well. Mixed together with historical economic trends relative to educational trends, we have a pretty damn big correlation between education and a strong economy.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"So give them a book and they will be prosporous?"
Ehh...no. Education is much more than what you learn from a book. They also teach you skills that you need to learn to work in a field. And not to mention that most people wouldn't be able to understand things like math or sciences by reading it right out of a book. Teachers exist for a reason.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 Hey bozo. Our founding fathers could read and write 3 and 4 languages and never went to public school. They were taught at home...no teachers. Science huh? The bible says the earth was round 2,100 years before Columbus figured it out. The Bible says every man has his own hand print over two thousand yrs before man found out. The bible says the moon reflects light, that light travels, that light can be parted and a thousand other science facts. You need an education.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"The africans killed all the whites, raped everything walking and then sat on their butts and started starving."
Yet this isn't remotely true at all. Because the Africans were fighting ALONG side the whites. And in fact in many nations for several decades the whites would continue to hold power and oppress the blacks. Remember Nelson Mandela? Who became South Africa's first black presidet EVER...in 1994?
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 I know it. They are doing great too. 20 to 30 rapes a week. We ship condoms to them like water. They did real good after he took over. Straight into the garbage can.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
Seriously, all I've learned about you from this conversation is that you are undeducated, racist, anti-semitic, ignorant of history, and completely unaware of the mechanisms (social and economic) of the modern world. It's quite shameful.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"by the way..funny side note. The atom bomb, nutron bomb etc etc..All the real big toys everybody wants. Jews Created them. Funny how that works. Not Gentiles...Jews."
Yet...it was funded and supported by the Christians that filled the US gorvernment and military. Not to mention that the Manhattan Project had MANY people working on it, many of whom were also Christian. Not to mention that Leo Szilard, the one who discovered the way to make nukes actually work, wasn't Jewish.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
And finally, yes, there WERE many Jewish people working on the Manhattan Project (and many non-Jews as well). However, this is not an argument at all, seeing as the Manhattan Project was a project that was an application of the discoveries of physics...and guess who who has won 1/5 of all Nobel Prizes ever? The Jews. And guess what many of them got it for? Physics. It's NOT shocking that the people who were coincidentally the best physicists (many of whom were Jews) worked on it.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
And one last thing about the people in Africa: Lazy? No. Not lazy. You're just an arrogant ass. Many people in Africa work from literal sunup to sundown doing harsh physical labor to eek out tiny incomes to survive. This is far from what one could call lazy. Alas this is what happened when your general populace is uneducated, you can't get industry started, and you tend to get stuck in very bad economic conditions.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 Right...History lesson boy. They had everything they needs to farm the thousands of acres of land. When the US helped take it from the Europeans the africans killed all the whites, raped everything walking and then sat on their butts and started starving. They look for hand outs. Will some people work, yes. But as a society they are lazy. Ever seen an all black rich neighborhood in America? I rest my case.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@tskasa1 According to ALL Records, the africans farm less than 1% of the land the Europeans did. All the equipment is still there. Just got rid of the white people doing it.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"the africans farm less than 1% of the land the Europeans did. All the equipment is still there. Just got rid of the white people doing it."
Okay then. What about fertilizer? And maintenance for these machines, they DO deteriorate and break down after a relatively short period of time. And what of things such as fertilizers? The oil needed to feed the farm machinery? The fresh water that is needed to feed the crops and the waterways to carry them there.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@tskasa1 Get a map fool. Rivers all over the country. Lakes and Oceans. No the equipment doesn't break down that quick and easy. You haven't ever farmed a day in your life I have. Tractors last longer than three cars.
TheMedde 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"Get a map fool. Rivers all over the country."
...Did you just call...Africa...a country? And you're calling me a fool? You called one of the seven continents...a country? Oh, the sheer irony of it all.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
But about your point about maps...a map? As in the map whose few inches are equal to MILES? Yes, just because things look close together on a map doesn't mean that in reality they are right next door to one another. You STILL have to make waterways to carry that water the MANY miles from the rivers to the site you're irrigating. And then of course, there is the all too present possibility of salt-water run offs or an unclean water supply.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"Lakes"
Many are salty, which means it can't be used for agriculture. And you still have the transportation problem present.
"Oceans"
Are full of SALT water, which CANNOT be used for agricultural purposes unless you go through the VERY expensive process of refining it to get all the salt out.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"No the equipment doesn't break down that quick and easy."
Ehhh, yes, it does. Farm equipment breaks down all the time. Just like ALL other machines. Even if it takes a few years, that is besides the point and the problem remains. Are you honestly going to say that farm equipment can last forever? Not to mention that equipment lasts even less than normal when it is left to nature to decay and corrode and is ignored.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"You haven't ever farmed a day in your life I have."
Again, personal anecdotes mean jack-shit in a debate. ESPECIALLY when they are unverifiable, as ALL of your personal anecdotes just so happen to be. Honestly, it is hard to get more intellectually dishonest than you. You not only state outright lies (for example, your blatant lie about the blacks somehow controlling countries like South Africa for decades on end), but you try to weed in inaccuracies and falsehoods as well.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
Then what about the training needed to teach these people how to use these machines effectively. The list goes on and on and on. And all of this is VERY expensive, and the startup costs exceed what most people can afford to pay.
tskasa1 10 months ago
@TheMedde
"The list goes on."
And still comprises FAR less than 1% of the human population.
"I make over 600,000 a year and I am a high school drop out."
Personal Annecdotes are worthless in a debate.
"Hard work, not education makes you"
Yet, it is the educated populace that industry depends on.
tskasa1 11 months ago
@tskasa1 You better go back and do your math. I personally know several millionaires that are just that from doing nothing but hard work and saving. These are people that worked an assembly line in factories and one worked for the TVA. Then compare that to the number of jobless college people who can't get a job doing what they went to college for. Education is not the pennicle of being successful. Hard work is.
TheMedde 11 months ago
@IShedTears4U
Im smart enough to know that if the world was about 10k years old the required accelerated rate of atomic decay (in this specific model) would have turned this place into a cesspool of highly radioactive byproducts, making life as we know it impossible. Even better, the released energy would be enough to turn whole Earth into a crème brûlée...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
Aparently having no shame is a key requirement for the modern day Christian.
ma049 1 year ago
My mind is melting in the intellectual vacuum that is this interview.
Guffington 1 year ago
Eric Hovind keep it up dude! I am praying for your Dad! Evolutionists will not take over with their sins! NEVER!
7tylerjb 1 year ago
@7tylerjb what sins? and compare them to the sins of your impotent god
Ututwhynot 1 year ago
@Ututwhynot Well not believing in God is a large sin according to the Holy Bible. God doesn't sin because he is perfect.
7tylerjb 1 year ago
@7tylerjb god called for blood on many occassions in the bible, admittedly killing innocent women and children fathers brothers sons in the plagues and in the flood which you so violently believe. if your god does exist (which he doesnt) he exists in your world of sin, and he is accountable for his actions. im sorry to say that your god is then an insecure teenager and not perfect and a murdering ego maniacle monster
Ututwhynot 1 year ago
@Ututwhynot God murdered for good reason. He didn't just kill them for fun. Some that he killed are still going to heaven. Why do you think the new testament was made? It's a fresh start.
7tylerjb 1 year ago
@7tylerjb ur the kind of person taht can see murder as acceptable. god murdered them for good reason, suppose god killed everyone you knew and loved. for good reason thats an amazingly disgusting statement, and shows you truly are warped in your mind. and if god is perfect and everything he does is good, why would he need a fresh start
Ututwhynot 1 year ago
@Ututwhynot There you go trying to put limits on the very God who created man. Who are you to put limits on God?
7tylerjb 1 year ago
@7tylerjb i do not put limits on god. the universe does... for your god to exist in this world he cannot violate natural laws without "magic" and im sorry but your impotent god CANNOT ever be proven, as he exists solely by "magic" he is an intellectual dead end. and a murderer, why put us here for such a short time just to die then go up with him again, there is no reason and "its his plan" just doesnt cut it for rational logical people
Ututwhynot 1 year ago
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"Who are you to put limits on God? "
So God wanted to kill every bad person on Earth ? But God also wanted to preserve all Animal life.
So was a global flood seriously the best idea he could come up with? Seems a bit impractical.
ma049 1 year ago
@7tylerjb so please dont talk for an entire group of people calling them "sinners" its ignorant rude bigoted and just makes you stand out for the idiot you really are, you use circular logic and you are wasting the one life you have
Ututwhynot 1 year ago
@Ututwhynot We are all sinners. But the atheist's sin is largely more than just a sin. It rejects God. This is the biggest sin someone can make. We are all inherently bad as the bible dictates. We are all sinners so we must confess and ask for forgiveness. Believe and you shall be saved!
7tylerjb 1 year ago
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"But the atheist's sin is largely more than just a sin. It rejects God."
So why does God make it so very very very hard for intellegent people to believe in his Holy Book. I guess God doesn't like geologists or cosomologists. That is why he has created a 6,000 year old universe that appears to be so very very much older.
Not really fair.
ma049 1 year ago
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Well if God did stretch out the heavens as you say.... you wouldn't have seen it at all. You need to realise looking into space is like looking back in time. A galaxy 1 billion light years away is the same as looking at a galaxy 1 billion years old. The light from the stars you see in the sky has taken much longer than the age you claim the Earth is to reach us. You fail. And since God made the Earth before the heavens, he fails as well
darkprincze 1 year ago
Well if God did stretch out the heavens as you say.... you wouldn't have seen it at all. You need to realise looking into space is like looking back in time. A galaxy 1 billion light years away is the same as looking at a galaxy 1 billion years ago. The light from the stars you see in the sky has taken much longer than the age you claim the Earth is to reach us. You fail. And since God made the Earth before the heavens, he fails as well.
darkprincze 1 year ago
i would love to see some guy take that "evidence" to work the next day. memorising something is hard enough, but when there is no actual point in there they are just going to be shot down.
twiistaaa 1 year ago
What a moron!
topherble 1 year ago