This brother has pointed fingers on other scholars like Imran Hosien on the topic of the Dajjal and Freemasonry. I disagree with him concefning symbolism are not connectex to Dajjal.Muhammad pbuh prophecised he comes in the hearts and minds of men,then as their system that shows symbolism of their ideology,yhen he will come in Human form go rule it.Allah yahdee!!!!
read the quran .. give charity .. go hajj .. shahada.. well thats for non muslims
as i was born into a muslim family
now what is da new stuff well if u find it hard to seperate da new stuff from the original then the 5 pillars is ur guidance and eye opener . my order of pillars is in da wrong way coz icudnt b arsed correcting my self by deleting so im jus explaining it here lol
subhanallah! akh i could not reply to ur comment on the other video. u asked me what proof have u found out that bilal phillips is amongst those who deviate.
there is a talk by Abu Khadeejah Abdul Wahid which mentions the deception of bilal phillips. im sure u will find it sumwhere.
@MilkShaykh01 you dont know who abu khadeejah study with he is Shaykh al-'Anjaree who study with the senior senior students of sheih albani and he also sat with sheikh uthaymeen sheikh albani sheikh bin bazz and other he ask questions and made good conections with them.....his teacher are Shaykh Taariq as-Subay'ee and Shaykh Ahmad as-Subay'ee who were the senior student of sheikh albani. Sheikh al anjaree is from the well know ulema of kuwait and many of the senior scholars have praised him.
@swizzy80401 and also abu khadeejah is well know from amongst the salafee scholar he defends the manhaj command good forbids evil calls to knowledge ...he studyy with sheikh anjaree for 8 years...sheikh ravee has praise him and other ulema.. you can even see his efforts look at the books him and his companions translate or the lectures they give or how the connect with the scholars bring them to west to give lesson. SALAFIPUBILCATION brother have done great job in england.
@UkNamelus The Prophet (peace be upon him) said 'Whoever introduces into our matter (religion) that which is not a part of it, will have it (his innovation) rejected.' Reported by Al-Bukhari & Muslim. This hadith shows every innovation in the religion is to be rejected, Islam is complete so there is no need for any additions in this religion so follow the Qur'an and the sunnah and leave off innovation. Also great video may Allah reward you for your efforts akhi
How is sending durood/salams considered a biddah. In bukhari and muslim it is reported that those that send salams upon me (prophet muhammad SAW) will be closest to me on the day of judgment
@UkNamelus I did not mention anything about saying salam on the prophet (peace be upon him) and nor do I hold it it to be an innovation in religion, I only mentioned a hadith which clarifies how innovation in religion should be dealt with, so we should follow the qu'ran and sunnah and not our desires, I ask Allah to make me and you among those who follow the prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him)
Ameen, all im saying that sometimes even strongly supported sunnahs of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are rejected as innovations (bidah). May Allah give us the tawfeeq to live according to the Quran and Sunnah. May Allah show us the siraatal Mustaqeem
@UkNamelus ameen to your dua akhi, this is why such matters should be referred to the scholars of islam and today the best of these are The Permanent Committee of Fatwa and Research and the Council of Senior Scholars, the books and lectures of the scholars are well known and they should be referred to, may Allah protect you akhi and make us among the rightly guided
@UkNamelus Brother he was referring to sending salams AS IN callin upon the Prophet AS THE Sufis do! Why you jumping into conclusion? and what is a wahabi? be careful whose name you're playing around with. Al-Wahhab is one of Allaah's name it means bestower. Did you even know that? Or are you just like the other blind followers and never actually looked into it but rather followed the crowd.
Ok akhi i get your point, and yes i did know that, also no need to vent your anger like that. In addition, im not a blind follower. Im referring to the followers Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. As well as, who is he to know who is commiting bidah. Only Allah is the all-knowing. May peace be upon you.
@UkNamelus I am sorry akhie do forgive me, I just frustrated at something else right now as we speak and when I saw your comment I automatically assume ''blind follower''. I am really sorry akhie please forgive me. I get these hatred comments about wahabi/salafi all the time so you gotta understand my frustration. Ameen to your dua akhiee.
@UkNamelus Anything that you do that is not taught by Prophet (SAW) related to worship is bidah. such as Calling on prophet(SAW) for help is bidah and shirk. Allah knows best.
@UkNamelus Do u know what a Wahabi is? Its a term invented by the British given to the TRUE muslims who did Jihad against them, when they came to try and take over Arabia. The "Wahabis" got rid of all mushrik grave worshipping in Arabia, and so this name was invented by those who could not overcome the true message of tawheed. As for those who do "salam" for the prophet SAW, is kissing your thumbs and then rubbing your face with them "salams"? or is following his SAW sunnah true "salams". Peace
A wahabbi is someone that follows the deviant methodology of Muhammad Ibn Wahhab. They have been exposed numerous amounts of times. Ibn Taymiyaah even branded Umar R.A as an innovator. How is that possible. Who the hell rubbs there face and thumbs. Thats absurd, I follow the interpretation of Hadith and Quran according to Imam Abu Hanifa. As well as, the ironical fact is the house of Ibn Saud commited the biggest biddah by helping to destroy the Caliphate. Salam
@UkNamelus Deviant methodology?! how is tawheed deviant. If you have read surah hud, Every prophet said to their nation "maa lakum min ilahin ghairuh" There is no God but Allah. This is also the fundamental value of the deen of Muhammad SAW. And who is greater, Ibn Taymiyyah RA, a great scholar, or Al aarooq bin al khattab RA, who is buried next to the prophet sAW and will be resurrected with him? Allah even preferred the choice of Umar RA OVER the choice o Prophet SAW 3 times in the Qur'an.
@UkNamelus Remember, u say u follow Imam Abu Hanifah, he only interpreted fiqh so the average muslim cud understand Islam. His words are not more important than Muhammad SAW, or Umar RA. Muhammad SAW said that IF THERE WERE TO BE A NABI AFTER HIM, IT WOULD BE UMAR.
And u can forget the house of saud, who said we ollow him? they r USA's shoe polishing slaves. They do not represent the "wahhabis" in any shape or form.
You got it wrong, if there were to be a Nabi after Muhammad SAW it would be Abu Bakr RA.
Ibn Abidin {a Ottoman Hanafi Jurist} said "Fiqh was planted by Abdullah Ibn Mas'ud, irrigated by Alqama, harvested by Ibrahim al-Nakh'i, threshed by Hammad, milled by Abu Hanifa, kneaded by Abu Yusuf, and baked by Shaybani. As a result, the Muslims are nourished by his bread".
@UkNamelus AstaghfiruAllah!!!!! I GOT IT WRONG? THAT IS A HADTIH OF THE BLOVED AND RESPECTED MESSENGER OF ALLAH SAW, graded "hasan" by Tirmidhi RA. Forget what some next level Hanafi jurist said, rather focus on the words of the Messenger SAW
Contemporary members of the Sa'ud house are descendants of Muhammad Ibn Sa’ud, the heretic who collaborated with Muhammad Ibn ‘Abdi-l-Wahhab, to cause a Muslim bloodbath in the name of "jihad." Their monarchy has existed since the Wahhabi movement originated, and they continue to raise the Dajjal’s banner to this very day.
@UkNamelus I have already denounced the saud family, as for the original saud who collaborated with Muhammad ibn abl-al Wahaab, you should know that grave worshipping was rife in Arabia at the time, which they sought to extinguish. Is this innovation? The propet SAW said there will be a mujaddid every century, now you tell me how extinguishing grave worship is not revival?
@UkNamelus Also, their monarchy lasted lasted from 1744 until 1818, and then SAUDi Arabi was formed in 1902, so they have not ruled since. And what "bloodbath" do you speak of? It is Allah's orders in the Qur'an to drive all shirk and kufr from Arabia at least. It is not a "bloodbath" to establish Tawheed for the sake of Allah, rather it is apostasy to say that it was an illegitimate cause.
Can you justify grave worship in Islam? If not then do what all Muslims SHOULD DO- Amr bi'l Ma'roof
I dont condone grave worship neither do i practice it and i never will. Nope, that monarcy is related to the Current monarchy if you would please take a look at the bloodline. They accused Palestinians with blasphemy and order them to leave Palestine for the jews. Wahabbism permits the killing of all Muslims who oppose them!!. In the Quran it says: killing a person is like killing the whole of mankind. . How can you condone such barbaric acts and follow those that permit it
@UkNamelus I didn't say that they werent related, because i know they're related. i only said that they didnt rule entirely since 1744, they lost power in 1818 and regained it in 1902. And pls put them aside. we "salfis/Wahabis" whatever u call us, we completely despise them. heres the proof watch?v=cSf4pSaUEDU.
No you don't i see your scholars sucking up to them, they go to their palace and the way they are so patriotic towards them. Also you didn't answer my point, how do you condone such attacks???. As well as, the Prophet Muhammad SAW said; " Calling a muslim as non-believer, has committed a sin which is like murder.
@UkNamelus Like i said, forget the "scholars". The king merely pays their paychecks. Our REAL scholars are the likes of Khalid Rashid who are in saudi prisons for speaking against him. Also, as a muslim, under Shari'ah, it it our duty to destroy the grave worship.
So according to the so called 250 year old methodology you follow, even visiting a grave is shirk. From what i can remember, the Prophet Muhammad SAW said: visit the grave indeed it reminds one of mout (death)". As well as, the majority of the followers of Hanafi school don't grave worship.
@UkNamelus Also, Allah, whenever he mentions killing in the Qur'an, says "illaa bilHaqq"- except with righteousnes. Under the Sharee'ah, which u shud believe in as a muslim, not any other law, murtaddeen, or munafiq should be put to death, as they are a menace to society, as they have followed Shaytaan and enticed others to do so, so implementation of Shari'ah is righteous, so the death of munafiqeen was justified. Also, I agree with the Devil's horn, which is the current House of SAud
@UkNamelus Thats not what i said. Your problem seems to be with the Wahhabis, not their teachings. Have you read Muhammad ibn AbdalWahhab's book on Tawheed? try finding a hadeeth contradicting the abolishment of grave worship. Anyone who worshipped graves was not of the what you call wahhabi movement, i.e. Tawheed. Therefore put 2and2 togehter, what does the Shariah tell us?
And u keep calling his teachings misguided.Have you any quotes?I can expose the FadhaileAmal book that the "hanafis"follow
The hanafis don't follow the fadhail Amal, its tableeghis. So there is a difference. Also ,how can you label Abdullah bin Masuud as misguided when Prophet Muhammad SAW said: Whatever ibn Masood narrates to you, believe him. May Allah guide everyone to the correct teachings of the Sunnah and Quraan
@UkNamelus Ok sorry, i did not know that Tableeghis are different to Hanafis. Its cos i have a few "Tableeghi" friends. Also, I DID NVER SAY THAT ABDULLAH IBN MASUD IS MISGUIDED. you can read all the comments. And i did not say visiting a grave is shirk, for indeed we are meant to remember death. But worshipping the grave, something which was prominent in arabia at the time, that is shirk, the biggest sin. The prophet SAW commanded Ali RA to destroy any grave greater than a handspan in width.
Never said you did i was relating to some of the scholars that did so. Also, the wahabi methodology claim to follow the sunnah strictly. I've never actually seen a follower of that sect wear the Immamah (turban) which was observed by the Prophet Muhammad SAW and the anbiya and tabeein also the pious predecessors that followed thereafter. Instead, i see them wearing a red and white tablecloth on their head. Not saying its wrong, but the irony of it.
@UkNamelus AstaghfiruAllah, thats just futile. There is no "dress code" in Islam, as Islam is for all of mankind. The only DIRECT COMMAND FROM ALLAH AND HIS RASOOL SAW we have regarding dress is to dress modestly. If one person wears an imamah to emulate the prophet, then his rewards is high and with Allah. The "tablecloth" you speak of, is called a ghutra worn by saudis to cover their head (sunnah), but it is also cultural, as it is useful in the desert. I'm sure that it is not weakening imaan.
Nope you are swaying away from the proposition i put forward. You claim to follow the Sunnah, and Islam is a way of life so if you do claim to follow it why have i never seen them wear the Imamah. The Prophet used to observe the Imamah not a gutrah so how can that be sunnah.
@UkNamelus How am I swaying away from the proposition? The Imaamah is Sunnah, but it does not affect your taqwah. I did not say that Ghutrah is sunnah. You can;t judge how good a muslim someone is by their headwear!!!
That isn't an accusation. I was merely pointing out the fact that if you follow Sunnah why none of your Shaykhs observe the Immamah. You cannot refer this to an accusation it is a fact and it doesn't show whos got the most Taqwa. It just points out the true followers of the Sunnah .
@UkNamelus Which "wahhabi" scholar gave takfeer of companions? you have no evidence, but you just have a problem with the salafis, something you don't know about. I have not seen any evidence from your claims.
@UkNamelus How can u even say that our hadeeth chain starts from Albani? That is just pure ignorance. Once again, you have shown me that your problem is with certain scholars, not the core values.
Nope it isn't ignorance. Its facts because how can you say your chain of hadith starts from Rasoul SAW and his companions when you give takfir on them. How can you label them with insults etc that is extremely ignorant and ridiculous. Also, your wahabbi house of Saud which allows the Massacre of millions of Muslims in the blessed lands of Yemen, in palestine not even trying to stop these barabaric acts of crime.
@UkNamelus Let me ask you something about your "sunnah". Forget imaamah, look at Salah which is more important. There are 3 narrations, all of which are weak, stating that the prophetSAw tied his hands round his stomach. Try opening Bukhari, if you believe in it, and ind me a hadeeth about tying hands there. All other hadeeths state round the navel/chest. So throw that teaching against the wall y brother.
@UkNamelus OF COURSE ITS AN ACCUSATION. U SAID THAT IF WE CLAIM TO FOLLOW THE SUNNAH, WHY OUR SCHOLARS DONT WEAR IMAMAH? find me one hadeeth where the prophet SAW said that we have to wear it, or even where he said it is beneficial to wear it. People only wear it nowadays to observe sunnah, to copy the best man who ever lived, and that is pleasing to Allah. But can u judge a whole group of muslims on this?
Ibn Taymiyyah confirmed that Ibn Umars intentions were to seek blessings by the traces of the Prophet by praying in those spots, thats why he made takfeer on him. If you agree with Ibn Taymiyyah then you too have opposed the hadith of the Prophet in Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Number 143 where the Prophet said "Indeed, Abdullah is a righteous man"
@UkNamelus Also, we do not "FOLLOW" this 250 year old methodolgy. WE follow a 1450 year old methodology called ISLAM. Muhammad ibn Abdal Wahhab only fulfilled the hadith of the Prophet SAW as a mujaddid. A mujadid is someone who revives the core principles of Islam. Say ur shahadah for me, what is our core principle? TAWHEED. Every prophet came with Tawheed before anything. Now in an area where grave worship is common, it is quite clear that establishing Tawheed is a revival of religion
where does your chain of narration of Hadith start from maybe Albani haha. Our chain starts from the Noble Prohet Muhammad SAW then his companions like Abdullah Ibn Masood and so forth. You call a person who ordered the killing of Muslims a mujadid and you have the right to curse people like Imam Gazzali, Imam Nawwai, Imam Abu hanifa/Shafii/Malik/Hanbal. Even label Umar RA. May Allah guide ever1 to the correct path of Sunnah and Quran
@UkNamelus As the 4 illustrious imams of fiqh have stated RahimahumuAllah, if you find a hadith contradicting their teachings/actions then throw the teaching against the wall. I, along with all others who you call "Wahhabi", declare that if you find a hadeeth contradictiong his teachings, then we will throw that particular teaching against the wall.
Also why do your guys give takfeer on the companions of the Prophet. When he SAW said: even the lowest of Sahabbis is better than the most pious person of my ummah that will come after them.
This brother has pointed fingers on other scholars like Imran Hosien on the topic of the Dajjal and Freemasonry. I disagree with him concefning symbolism are not connectex to Dajjal.Muhammad pbuh prophecised he comes in the hearts and minds of men,then as their system that shows symbolism of their ideology,yhen he will come in Human form go rule it.Allah yahdee!!!!
GENIEDA1NONLY 1 month ago
sunnah ... pray 5 times fajr zuhr asr magrib isha
read the quran .. give charity .. go hajj .. shahada.. well thats for non muslims
as i was born into a muslim family
now what is da new stuff well if u find it hard to seperate da new stuff from the original then the 5 pillars is ur guidance and eye opener . my order of pillars is in da wrong way coz icudnt b arsed correcting my self by deleting so im jus explaining it here lol
crook4real 2 months ago
MashaAllah
MujahideenChronicles 6 months ago
his garments are are amazing where do you buy them?
MrNoorize 8 months ago
youtube.com/watch?v=e5zJGrSrUJo
watch this and be honest with yourself. Watch this as if you are gaining knowledge for the sake of Allah SWT
Hamza120994 8 months ago
JazakAllah for uploading bro.... very important message :)
Hamza120994 9 months ago
subhanallah! akh i could not reply to ur comment on the other video. u asked me what proof have u found out that bilal phillips is amongst those who deviate.
there is a talk by Abu Khadeejah Abdul Wahid which mentions the deception of bilal phillips. im sure u will find it sumwhere.
ax1237 11 months ago
@ax1237 Akhie check your inbox, i dont listen to Abu Khadeejah he doubts the victory of Allaah find it on youtube, who did this guy study under?
MilkShaykh01 11 months ago
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@MilkShaykh01 i will look at my inbox now akh.
ax1237 11 months ago
@MilkShaykh01 you dont know who abu khadeejah study with he is Shaykh al-'Anjaree who study with the senior senior students of sheih albani and he also sat with sheikh uthaymeen sheikh albani sheikh bin bazz and other he ask questions and made good conections with them.....his teacher are Shaykh Taariq as-Subay'ee and Shaykh Ahmad as-Subay'ee who were the senior student of sheikh albani. Sheikh al anjaree is from the well know ulema of kuwait and many of the senior scholars have praised him.
swizzy80401 10 months ago
@swizzy80401 and also abu khadeejah is well know from amongst the salafee scholar he defends the manhaj command good forbids evil calls to knowledge ...he studyy with sheikh anjaree for 8 years...sheikh ravee has praise him and other ulema.. you can even see his efforts look at the books him and his companions translate or the lectures they give or how the connect with the scholars bring them to west to give lesson. SALAFIPUBILCATION brother have done great job in england.
check there lecture
swizzy80401 10 months ago
is everything we do an innovation, gosh . Even sending salams to the Prophet (pbuh) is considered as bidah by some wahhabis
UkNamelus 11 months ago
@UkNamelus The Prophet (peace be upon him) said 'Whoever introduces into our matter (religion) that which is not a part of it, will have it (his innovation) rejected.' Reported by Al-Bukhari & Muslim. This hadith shows every innovation in the religion is to be rejected, Islam is complete so there is no need for any additions in this religion so follow the Qur'an and the sunnah and leave off innovation. Also great video may Allah reward you for your efforts akhi
evilheem 11 months ago
@evilheem
How is sending durood/salams considered a biddah. In bukhari and muslim it is reported that those that send salams upon me (prophet muhammad SAW) will be closest to me on the day of judgment
UkNamelus 11 months ago
@UkNamelus I did not mention anything about saying salam on the prophet (peace be upon him) and nor do I hold it it to be an innovation in religion, I only mentioned a hadith which clarifies how innovation in religion should be dealt with, so we should follow the qu'ran and sunnah and not our desires, I ask Allah to make me and you among those who follow the prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him)
evilheem 11 months ago
@evilheem
Ameen, all im saying that sometimes even strongly supported sunnahs of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are rejected as innovations (bidah). May Allah give us the tawfeeq to live according to the Quran and Sunnah. May Allah show us the siraatal Mustaqeem
UkNamelus 11 months ago
@UkNamelus ameen to your dua akhi, this is why such matters should be referred to the scholars of islam and today the best of these are The Permanent Committee of Fatwa and Research and the Council of Senior Scholars, the books and lectures of the scholars are well known and they should be referred to, may Allah protect you akhi and make us among the rightly guided
evilheem 11 months ago
@UkNamelus Brother he was referring to sending salams AS IN callin upon the Prophet AS THE Sufis do! Why you jumping into conclusion? and what is a wahabi? be careful whose name you're playing around with. Al-Wahhab is one of Allaah's name it means bestower. Did you even know that? Or are you just like the other blind followers and never actually looked into it but rather followed the crowd.
MilkShaykh01 11 months ago
@MilkShaykh01
Ok akhi i get your point, and yes i did know that, also no need to vent your anger like that. In addition, im not a blind follower. Im referring to the followers Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. As well as, who is he to know who is commiting bidah. Only Allah is the all-knowing. May peace be upon you.
UkNamelus 11 months ago
@UkNamelus I am sorry akhie do forgive me, I just frustrated at something else right now as we speak and when I saw your comment I automatically assume ''blind follower''. I am really sorry akhie please forgive me. I get these hatred comments about wahabi/salafi all the time so you gotta understand my frustration. Ameen to your dua akhiee.
MilkShaykh01 11 months ago
@MilkShaykh01
I understand akhi no problem
UkNamelus 11 months ago
@UkNamelus Anything that you do that is not taught by Prophet (SAW) related to worship is bidah. such as Calling on prophet(SAW) for help is bidah and shirk. Allah knows best.
usmankraja 3 months ago
@usmankraja
Well done on your "Assumptions". FYI, i dont take part in activities like that and never have, neither do i agree with calling on the Prophet SAW.
UkNamelus 3 months ago
@UkNamelus Do u know what a Wahabi is? Its a term invented by the British given to the TRUE muslims who did Jihad against them, when they came to try and take over Arabia. The "Wahabis" got rid of all mushrik grave worshipping in Arabia, and so this name was invented by those who could not overcome the true message of tawheed. As for those who do "salam" for the prophet SAW, is kissing your thumbs and then rubbing your face with them "salams"? or is following his SAW sunnah true "salams". Peace
Hamza120994 9 months ago
@Hamza120994
A wahabbi is someone that follows the deviant methodology of Muhammad Ibn Wahhab. They have been exposed numerous amounts of times. Ibn Taymiyaah even branded Umar R.A as an innovator. How is that possible. Who the hell rubbs there face and thumbs. Thats absurd, I follow the interpretation of Hadith and Quran according to Imam Abu Hanifa. As well as, the ironical fact is the house of Ibn Saud commited the biggest biddah by helping to destroy the Caliphate. Salam
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Deviant methodology?! how is tawheed deviant. If you have read surah hud, Every prophet said to their nation "maa lakum min ilahin ghairuh" There is no God but Allah. This is also the fundamental value of the deen of Muhammad SAW. And who is greater, Ibn Taymiyyah RA, a great scholar, or Al aarooq bin al khattab RA, who is buried next to the prophet sAW and will be resurrected with him? Allah even preferred the choice of Umar RA OVER the choice o Prophet SAW 3 times in the Qur'an.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Remember, u say u follow Imam Abu Hanifah, he only interpreted fiqh so the average muslim cud understand Islam. His words are not more important than Muhammad SAW, or Umar RA. Muhammad SAW said that IF THERE WERE TO BE A NABI AFTER HIM, IT WOULD BE UMAR.
And u can forget the house of saud, who said we ollow him? they r USA's shoe polishing slaves. They do not represent the "wahhabis" in any shape or form.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
You got it wrong, if there were to be a Nabi after Muhammad SAW it would be Abu Bakr RA.
Ibn Abidin {a Ottoman Hanafi Jurist} said "Fiqh was planted by Abdullah Ibn Mas'ud, irrigated by Alqama, harvested by Ibrahim al-Nakh'i, threshed by Hammad, milled by Abu Hanifa, kneaded by Abu Yusuf, and baked by Shaybani. As a result, the Muslims are nourished by his bread".
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus AstaghfiruAllah!!!!! I GOT IT WRONG? THAT IS A HADTIH OF THE BLOVED AND RESPECTED MESSENGER OF ALLAH SAW, graded "hasan" by Tirmidhi RA. Forget what some next level Hanafi jurist said, rather focus on the words of the Messenger SAW
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
Contemporary members of the Sa'ud house are descendants of Muhammad Ibn Sa’ud, the heretic who collaborated with Muhammad Ibn ‘Abdi-l-Wahhab, to cause a Muslim bloodbath in the name of "jihad." Their monarchy has existed since the Wahhabi movement originated, and they continue to raise the Dajjal’s banner to this very day.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus I have already denounced the saud family, as for the original saud who collaborated with Muhammad ibn abl-al Wahaab, you should know that grave worshipping was rife in Arabia at the time, which they sought to extinguish. Is this innovation? The propet SAW said there will be a mujaddid every century, now you tell me how extinguishing grave worship is not revival?
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Also, their monarchy lasted lasted from 1744 until 1818, and then SAUDi Arabi was formed in 1902, so they have not ruled since. And what "bloodbath" do you speak of? It is Allah's orders in the Qur'an to drive all shirk and kufr from Arabia at least. It is not a "bloodbath" to establish Tawheed for the sake of Allah, rather it is apostasy to say that it was an illegitimate cause.
Can you justify grave worship in Islam? If not then do what all Muslims SHOULD DO- Amr bi'l Ma'roof
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
I dont condone grave worship neither do i practice it and i never will. Nope, that monarcy is related to the Current monarchy if you would please take a look at the bloodline. They accused Palestinians with blasphemy and order them to leave Palestine for the jews. Wahabbism permits the killing of all Muslims who oppose them!!. In the Quran it says: killing a person is like killing the whole of mankind. . How can you condone such barbaric acts and follow those that permit it
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus I didn't say that they werent related, because i know they're related. i only said that they didnt rule entirely since 1744, they lost power in 1818 and regained it in 1902. And pls put them aside. we "salfis/Wahabis" whatever u call us, we completely despise them. heres the proof watch?v=cSf4pSaUEDU.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
No you don't i see your scholars sucking up to them, they go to their palace and the way they are so patriotic towards them. Also you didn't answer my point, how do you condone such attacks???. As well as, the Prophet Muhammad SAW said; " Calling a muslim as non-believer, has committed a sin which is like murder.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Like i said, forget the "scholars". The king merely pays their paychecks. Our REAL scholars are the likes of Khalid Rashid who are in saudi prisons for speaking against him. Also, as a muslim, under Shari'ah, it it our duty to destroy the grave worship.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
So according to the so called 250 year old methodology you follow, even visiting a grave is shirk. From what i can remember, the Prophet Muhammad SAW said: visit the grave indeed it reminds one of mout (death)". As well as, the majority of the followers of Hanafi school don't grave worship.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Also, Allah, whenever he mentions killing in the Qur'an, says "illaa bilHaqq"- except with righteousnes. Under the Sharee'ah, which u shud believe in as a muslim, not any other law, murtaddeen, or munafiq should be put to death, as they are a menace to society, as they have followed Shaytaan and enticed others to do so, so implementation of Shari'ah is righteous, so the death of munafiqeen was justified. Also, I agree with the Devil's horn, which is the current House of SAud
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
Yh so you are trying to Imply that anyone that doesn't follow the misguided teachings of the Wahabbi methadology a munafiq. That is shocking akhi.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Thats not what i said. Your problem seems to be with the Wahhabis, not their teachings. Have you read Muhammad ibn AbdalWahhab's book on Tawheed? try finding a hadeeth contradicting the abolishment of grave worship. Anyone who worshipped graves was not of the what you call wahhabi movement, i.e. Tawheed. Therefore put 2and2 togehter, what does the Shariah tell us?
And u keep calling his teachings misguided.Have you any quotes?I can expose the FadhaileAmal book that the "hanafis"follow
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
The hanafis don't follow the fadhail Amal, its tableeghis. So there is a difference. Also ,how can you label Abdullah bin Masuud as misguided when Prophet Muhammad SAW said: Whatever ibn Masood narrates to you, believe him. May Allah guide everyone to the correct teachings of the Sunnah and Quraan
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Ok sorry, i did not know that Tableeghis are different to Hanafis. Its cos i have a few "Tableeghi" friends. Also, I DID NVER SAY THAT ABDULLAH IBN MASUD IS MISGUIDED. you can read all the comments. And i did not say visiting a grave is shirk, for indeed we are meant to remember death. But worshipping the grave, something which was prominent in arabia at the time, that is shirk, the biggest sin. The prophet SAW commanded Ali RA to destroy any grave greater than a handspan in width.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
Never said you did i was relating to some of the scholars that did so. Also, the wahabi methodology claim to follow the sunnah strictly. I've never actually seen a follower of that sect wear the Immamah (turban) which was observed by the Prophet Muhammad SAW and the anbiya and tabeein also the pious predecessors that followed thereafter. Instead, i see them wearing a red and white tablecloth on their head. Not saying its wrong, but the irony of it.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus AstaghfiruAllah, thats just futile. There is no "dress code" in Islam, as Islam is for all of mankind. The only DIRECT COMMAND FROM ALLAH AND HIS RASOOL SAW we have regarding dress is to dress modestly. If one person wears an imamah to emulate the prophet, then his rewards is high and with Allah. The "tablecloth" you speak of, is called a ghutra worn by saudis to cover their head (sunnah), but it is also cultural, as it is useful in the desert. I'm sure that it is not weakening imaan.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
Nope you are swaying away from the proposition i put forward. You claim to follow the Sunnah, and Islam is a way of life so if you do claim to follow it why have i never seen them wear the Imamah. The Prophet used to observe the Imamah not a gutrah so how can that be sunnah.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus How am I swaying away from the proposition? The Imaamah is Sunnah, but it does not affect your taqwah. I did not say that Ghutrah is sunnah. You can;t judge how good a muslim someone is by their headwear!!!
Its an absurd accusation, one with no basis
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
That isn't an accusation. I was merely pointing out the fact that if you follow Sunnah why none of your Shaykhs observe the Immamah. You cannot refer this to an accusation it is a fact and it doesn't show whos got the most Taqwa. It just points out the true followers of the Sunnah .
UkNamelus 8 months ago
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@UkNamelus Which "wahhabi" scholar gave takfeer of companions? you have no evidence, but you just have a problem with the salafis, something you don't know about. I have not seen any evidence from your claims.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@UkNamelus How can u even say that our hadeeth chain starts from Albani? That is just pure ignorance. Once again, you have shown me that your problem is with certain scholars, not the core values.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
Nope it isn't ignorance. Its facts because how can you say your chain of hadith starts from Rasoul SAW and his companions when you give takfir on them. How can you label them with insults etc that is extremely ignorant and ridiculous. Also, your wahabbi house of Saud which allows the Massacre of millions of Muslims in the blessed lands of Yemen, in palestine not even trying to stop these barabaric acts of crime.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Let me ask you something about your "sunnah". Forget imaamah, look at Salah which is more important. There are 3 narrations, all of which are weak, stating that the prophetSAw tied his hands round his stomach. Try opening Bukhari, if you believe in it, and ind me a hadeeth about tying hands there. All other hadeeths state round the navel/chest. So throw that teaching against the wall y brother.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@UkNamelus OF COURSE ITS AN ACCUSATION. U SAID THAT IF WE CLAIM TO FOLLOW THE SUNNAH, WHY OUR SCHOLARS DONT WEAR IMAMAH? find me one hadeeth where the prophet SAW said that we have to wear it, or even where he said it is beneficial to wear it. People only wear it nowadays to observe sunnah, to copy the best man who ever lived, and that is pleasing to Allah. But can u judge a whole group of muslims on this?
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Also, find me a "scholar" who said this about Abdullah ibn masood
Hamza120994 8 months ago
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@Hamza120994
Ibn Taymiyyah confirmed that Ibn Umars intentions were to seek blessings by the traces of the Prophet by praying in those spots, thats why he made takfeer on him. If you agree with Ibn Taymiyyah then you too have opposed the hadith of the Prophet in Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 9, Book 87, Number 143 where the Prophet said "Indeed, Abdullah is a righteous man"
You need to seriously wake up and see the truth
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Also, we do not "FOLLOW" this 250 year old methodolgy. WE follow a 1450 year old methodology called ISLAM. Muhammad ibn Abdal Wahhab only fulfilled the hadith of the Prophet SAW as a mujaddid. A mujadid is someone who revives the core principles of Islam. Say ur shahadah for me, what is our core principle? TAWHEED. Every prophet came with Tawheed before anything. Now in an area where grave worship is common, it is quite clear that establishing Tawheed is a revival of religion
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
where does your chain of narration of Hadith start from maybe Albani haha. Our chain starts from the Noble Prohet Muhammad SAW then his companions like Abdullah Ibn Masood and so forth. You call a person who ordered the killing of Muslims a mujadid and you have the right to curse people like Imam Gazzali, Imam Nawwai, Imam Abu hanifa/Shafii/Malik/Hanbal. Even label Umar RA. May Allah guide ever1 to the correct path of Sunnah and Quran
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus As the 4 illustrious imams of fiqh have stated RahimahumuAllah, if you find a hadith contradicting their teachings/actions then throw the teaching against the wall. I, along with all others who you call "Wahhabi", declare that if you find a hadeeth contradictiong his teachings, then we will throw that particular teaching against the wall.
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994
Also why do your guys give takfeer on the companions of the Prophet. When he SAW said: even the lowest of Sahabbis is better than the most pious person of my ummah that will come after them.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Whose OUR GUYS? makes no sense. find me someone who gives takfeers of companions. only shia to takfeer of companions
Hamza120994 8 months ago
@Hamza120994 Your certain scholars.
UkNamelus 8 months ago
@UkNamelus Your "certain scholars"... huh
any names? any books?
NO
Hamza120994 8 months ago