GRITtv: John Fugelsang: Bible Lessons for Westboro Baptist

[daicon2k6]

"And Sodom and Gomorrah is actually a story about public and gang rape of angels in the streets." That only happens after the cities are already slated for destruction, so it couldn't have been the cause.

[ThatCrazyBrownGuy]

If u steal, we should cut your hands off. This is like what people in the bible do. They take what god said and added laws like murdering people for stupid stuff.

[CATSASS1117]

GOP = Evangelical crackpot bigot-racists...

[CKYJosh22]

Fun fact, man wrote the bible, not God.

[auramac]

@CKYJosh22 Of course. Man created god in his own image.

[dewerbylhserf]

Love the Sinner ,( That me too) . But Hate the SIN. This guy did not get it.

[MrEnlighteneddespot]

He misses out Romans and Corinthians. Shellfish no longer counts as it says in Acts. Romans 1 does mention woman with woman. What about all those Bible passages which states fornication as a sin and since marriage is only appropriate between a man and a woman then homosexuality at least is the same as fornication? This guy is as much of a liar as Fred Phelps.

[JJbirdsong1]

@MrEnlighteneddespot your point only works if you give St. Paul the same importance as God & Jesus - and Romans 1 mentions women in the past tense, again, only Paul.

[MrEnlighteneddespot]

@JJbirdsong1 Christ said 'if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart you have committed adultery' i.e. you ideally should be married to have sex and marriage is between a man and a woman- 'when a man leaves his parents he will united with his wife and together they will become one flesh'- sodomy in that sense is not different to fornication. But St Paul was a prophet of God who reportedly spent we years out in the desert with Jesus and the first things he wrote was in Romans 1.

[auramac]

@MrEnlighteneddespot If you're an "expert" on this particular Sci-Fi novel, and still a hateful, narrow-minded soul, you are definitely going to Hell, but in the meantime, obviously have too much time on your hands. Or are already there.

[MrEnlighteneddespot]

@auramac Would you label Christ with such bigotry? Truth is, you think you're smarter than the Creator who made you. As it is written 'they worship the creature, rather than the Creator'- Romans.

[H3770mynameis]

pick and choose, pick and choose, that's just what the vast majority of christians/religious people are anyway. Even the westborough people, as this vid has shown, are also 'pick-and-choosers.' how dare they impose their views and shackle free men toward their will.

[brokenbeekerman]

i like your micheal j fox face john. keep pushin baby!

[Xonk61]

I think Rush Limbaugh has been stoned. at least three times...

[wankerpanther]

Hmmm, who to trust... One Christian man who has a girlfriend whom he fornicates with who believes homosexuality is OK, or 2 billion Christians complete with clergy, who believe it is wrong... Thanks John but I will continue to oppose Christianity in all its manifestations, no matter how disingenuous

[TheFlanker35]

@1:42,

That's a good point. You truly are an insightful Biblical scholar. 

[jimmyredable]

and most everyone wants to be on the stage- few wish to sit in the audience

[MaryWaterton]

This faggot Fuselganger knows nothing about the Bible and clearly could care less what God says in condemnation of homosexuality. He is a mocker. Mock now, burn later.

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the Last Days scoffers, walking after their own lusts." (2-Peter 3:3)

[relock54321]

@MaryWaterton I think this guy has a pretty good idea of what he's talking about. It is clear that God, at no point, condemns homosexuality anywhere in the bible (and if you have a verse to disprove this i'd love to see it) and it is clear that WBC is a group of homophobic people with an incredibly backwards sense of duty.

PS. LOVED the use of the word "faggot" in your post. I found it to be both ignorant AND counterproductive in your argument, well done.

[Duffman764]

Agree with the video--although I don't think that WBC are very fond of Rush Limbaugh or George W. Bush as it is...

[normmarks7]

God doesn't hate anyone! God doesn't command Westboro to hate anyone! He only hates sin. God created us all and loves us all. I have no idea why Westboro walks around with signs saying "God hates....".

[drshrinklet]

Fucking AWESOME, John!!

[WilliamWozzeck]

Silly man. Romans 1 talks about lesbians, though it's a little tenuous.

[JJbirdsong1]

Romans is Paul, not God or Jesus.

[ztv]

Long time you saw him on TV

[8692brent]

They dont hate anyone. They are "SPREADING THE WORD OF OUR LORD YOUR GOD"

Do I agree with it? No.....Not at all.

[BlazingKrimson]

Brilliant.

[Sheldonrs]

People are BORN gay or straight or Bi or Trans.  God made people. God is never wrong.

And anyone who thinks it's a choice or wrong is an idiot.

[Sheldonrs]

About fucking time!

[foryoublue94]

Their boycot of every single thing Christ ever taught. Yes.

[SapphireBlaze9]

Awesome! Keep it up, John!

[SapphireBlaze9]

Awesome! Keep it up, John!

[aldralee]

Couldn't possibly love this more. I would like to thank John's parents (former priest and nun, no less!) for raising a stellar champion of human rights. "Because homophobia, Reverend, is an insult to God." Preach!

[JettaJameson83]

Brilliant. Who knew the guy from AFV was so awesome? Love this guy.

[JoeinMI]

So sexy... I would eat his poo.

[EdFugg]

Actually there, Baby Jesus, Paul was railing about homosexuality built into religions of the day. And maybe it's you who should go read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah one more li'l ol' time. But you're really slick and I hope the bi lady and you proudly get together. Take pics.

[HurricaneIkesmackdow]

@nfwvideo2011 I was talking civil law brute.

[HurricaneIkesmackdow]

Jesus called his generation adulterous, evil faithless perverts. did you even check your Bible? This turd on the video is average liar for satan, He thinks Osteen's God is real and not antiChrist. WBC knows Bible and Jesus changed dietary laws for gentiles anyways and we no longer live in a theocracy. I have no issue stoning adulterers for harming their own children. No problem with stoning homos if it was law either.

[amatterofrecord]

@HurricaneIkesmackdow You're a loser, just like your religious freak butt-buddies.

[chesleycareystar]

WHO IS THEIR GOD??? 

[sillykatz]

i had some people try to preach to me about Revelations and Galatians 5, i told him to watch a little movie called, "fish out of water" some people really are dumb!

[sillykatz]

as a bi woman who is christian and not any of the gross stereotypes, i want to marry this man! or somebody just like him! he is the type of christian that i am! just saying!

[hollyhousekitchen]

omg. this video is so full of win.

[hollyhousekitchen]

John Fugelsang, I love you.

[CntrBrdr]

I am a new fan of john fugelsang

[phatphace]

He forgot another vital instruction of Leviticus - 15:28-15:30 - where, upon menstruation, a woman must wait eight days until she is clean before she is able to sacrifice two turtledoves in atonement of the "uncleanliness of her discharge". Once again, God is punishing human beings for entirely natural phenomena. I sure hope Shirley is up to date with her ritualistic sacrifice...

[RagexLovexRevenge]

i'm pretty sure Shirley Phelps had a child out of wedlock...maybe she should picket herself!

[kub73158]

Homosexuality is wrong. We are not to judge, though.

This guy reminds too much and somewhat has the spirit of Charlie Sheen; not good at all.

Plus, it's real weird & creepy how he gets excited talking about Sodom and Gomorrah.

Of course, he is wrong about "public gang rape of angels"~ bizarre thought there from him.

What happened was that the messed up people overstepped their bounds and were blinded by the angels.

God later destroyed the whole city.

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[Knucklesmack]

@kub73158 Your first four points are completely silly & unworthy of comment. Your last 2 points about sodom & gommorrah are only part of the story. Read a Bible sometime. You can't use the bible to say 'Homosexuality is wrong.' And if you're not to judge, I'm afraid you're too late.

[kub73158]

@Knucklesmack

"You can't use the Bible to say homosexuality is wrong". ?

Romans 1:27

1Corinthians 6:9-10

One can justify and condone any thought and behavior. That's why so many people are messed up; there's not much of a strong moral guideline.

[MrFakegods]

Reality check, The bible was written by False visionaries and scoundrels who were outcasts of the Jewish people. They wrote this elaborate "scripture" to gain the trust of the people through good morals and principles. Their was no "God" involved. Only consisting of the those who never question enough emotionally weak, Those who fear death, Blind conformists, Greedy liars and last but not least the ignorant. so i ask you. Which category are you in ??? (please tell me if I'm missing something)

[stagn41]

@MrFakegods yea your missing something. Your missing a brain dumbass. How about quit BFing and smoking weed and quit reading crap from other BFers. You don't want to hear what the Bible says because you want to continue BFing and smoking weed.

[MrFakegods]

@stagn41 I'm smarter then you jackass

This guy is a retard. i bet he spends all of his time sitting around reading the bible and watching fox news.What the fuck do you mean by BFing? Breastfeeding? (lol?) You need to ether get a life or go crawl in a hole and die you scumbag punk.

[stagn41]

@MrFakegods Hey BFer it might do you some good if you read the Bible and watched Fox news instead  of reading Dawkins, Sagan the Pagan, and the BFer's Daily News. It is hard to tell if you are high or just plain stupid when you make such asinine statements about the Bible. Everything you enjoy in this country is a result of the Bible and the people who read it. The whole world wants to come to America because of its greatness but all you BFer's want to do is tear down the country and the Bible.

[MrFakegods]

@stagn41 I have read the bible.As for watching fox news.. I'll stick to real news that isn't sold out as bad. If you get yout facts from fox news and the bible you truly are a simpleton. Fox news is a greedy bias media channel. Its like a news channel for kids and ignorant Christians who need entertainment with news. (which makes up a good percentage of America) Oh, I wouldn't try and tear my own nation. I just feel like we need more of a separation between church and state. Tax the church too

[MrFakegods]

@stagn41 Don't even bother responding if you are gonna throw that childish "BFer Shit" At me an defend fox news. I've heard enough stupid republican scumbags try and "tell me a thing or two". Its like being told by a bunch of stubborn stupid apes

[stagn41]

@MrFakegods WTF don't you go live in another country, and quit taking up space in America. Go sit on a mountain top in India with a guru and smoke pot. It's too bad that the USSR is no longer. You could have gone over there and starved with the other God hating communist and atheist. Let somebody come here that appreciates what this country has accomplished through Bible believing Christians. All you perverts do is tear down what good people have tried to build since this country was founded.

[MrFakegods]

@stagn41 If anyone is taking up space its the scum bag republican super solder wannabes. Its all about power and worshiping your fake god so you can get into ur magical paradise. you are no different from the Muslims. Why don't you go live in Iraq and kill Muslim extremists and innocent children. You need to learn that the bible is a lie and is nothing more then a tool to control how people like you think, Im not trying to tear down anything. Just trying to repair the damage you people cause.

[stagn41]

@MrFakegods When you are in hell with other BFer's and Bible haters like Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin and Mao, tell them how much you admire what they did for civilization and humankind. They believed the Bible was a lie too, so you will be with people more to your liking. Enjoy yourself down there while I'm in my "magical paradise".

[MrFakegods]

@stagn41 You are insane. If i do end up in hell that place will change for the best. I might add a few fountains. some fancy pants hotels and resorts to attract tourists. Then i will start a movement to bring down all you conformist, Fascist, Ignorant, intolerant, sleez bags hiding behind your bibles. (Im good at coming up with fiction too. Better then the bible if u ask me) You know nothing about the real world. you are too blinded by ignorance that is the bible, entertainment news, etc

[stagn41]

Round them up and put them on an island and in a few years they will all die of aids. A quicker solution is to ship them all to Iran and let Ahmadinejad deal with them. And send Fugelsang with them to give them their Last Rites and tell them it's OK with God if they are gay. I Cor 6:10,11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals nor sodomites, will inherit the kingdom of God.

[TechGuy506]

There's such a rise of excitement in John's voice when he actually mentions the name "Westboro Baptist Church". That could be excitement or maybe it's a rise of contempt. Mmm, probably the latter.

[debaser71]

@EvilStar109 hey kid, such language...would your jesus approve? /ignored

[debaser71]

religion is a scam, jesus is a myth, and god is just pretend

[ytTrollFighter2011]

I agree with some of the points of the video.. if you're gonna follow this cult-I mean thing called religion, follow it 100%. Don't half-ass it. If you can't follow it thoroughly.. get rid of it. That's what's so dumb about it all.

Picketing funerals has to be the lowest fucking thing ever. Funerals? Seriously.

[Neesharani]

I love this man.....If the WBC has to stone people for sins the 1st one to go bye bye is that insane daughter of Freds. She had a child out of wedlock and I think was re married once before this husband. So plz Fred Sr do us a favor and follow your own rules :D

[eshbena]

It always amazes me that people who don't read Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic, still profess to tell others what is in the "Bible". The original Leviticus documents are actually referring to a prohibition against imitating non-Israelite, foreign cultic sexual substitution fertility rituals, and do not condemn anyone who does not use substitutional and/or incestuous sex as a method of gaining Divine favor. I can quote out the Hebrew for you, but you wouldn't understand it @einsatzdeath.

[apologeticsman]

@eshbena I know Hebrew and Greek as well as any scholar that is not classically educated, and while the Bible does not condone hatred against anyone, sinner or otherwise, it does teach that homosexuality is not natural, and that it is a sin. God very plainly tells us that sex was created for marriage, and that marriage is ONLY between men and women, so to suggest that a couple of guys shoving _____ you know where is a Godly and God condoned practice is in fact a lie.

[SWLinPHX]

@apologeticsman Does this include women getting anally penetrated by men, or women doing it to men with dildos or strap-ons???

[Matopath9]

@einsatzdeath - Wow, you know nothing about John Fugelsang, his parents are devout Catholics who were not closed minded and understood the message of Christ was about opening yourself up to the world and having a deep spiritual love for all things. If we all understood that, not only would we be better people, we'd also have a better world, whether you are a follower of Christ or not.

[scarlow]

Calmly and authoritatively stated.

[Catman51]

When one of the Westboro members dies, I won't be picketing, I'll be celebrating!

[Knucklesmack]

@einsatzdeath - your page reveals you to be a profoundly anti-Jesus creep, but for the benefit of anyone who's read your comment do know that Romans 1 is St. Paul condemning male prostitution - nothing to do w/death for 'fags.' And Leviticus says nothing of the kind about women. There is no law from God against women with women in the entire Bible. Go Hate elsewhere.

[einsatzdeath]

This brainiac doesn't know the first thing about the Bible or Christianity. Since the crucifixion, only the moral parts of Leviticus apply. The ceremonial parts no longer do. Also, Romans 1 says fags are worthy of death, but the Bible says to obey man's laws as well as God's. Killing them would be criminal in both ways, as legal murder and in breaking a commandment. And the Bible says nothing about two women?!? The same passage in Leviticus says "as with womankind." What a dishonest liar.

[doubleg137]

@einsatzdeath so its just picking and choosing what you want to follow?

[Knucklesmack]

We still stone people to death, only we use syringes & poison now. "forgive us our trespasses as we lethally inject those who trespass against us.'

[rexislegit7]

Woah Woah, ok God does not hate anyone not even gays, but he does hate sin and every single type of it. Also, the whole thing about believing everything in Leviticus is true, but you gotta remember that that is a book of the old testment therefore Jesus hasn't came yet and died on the cross for everyone's sins. Today we are all good though, because jesus died for our sins therefore the whole stoning some one to death doesn't apply anymore.

[Knucklesmack]

@humanreplica - Yes, but Jesus did overthrow Old Testament laws, from the most obvious - the Death Penalty - to preaching against divorcing your wife because one 'no longer delights in her.'

Christ was the progressive, Paul was his conservative PR guy. And Paul's letters decrying same-sex behavior in the past tense in Romans is hardly the same as God condemning something.

Google the theologians who think Paul may have been gay - that'll blow your mind.

[Mexjewel2003]

How does a Gay man know how to lie "as with a woman"? Total lack of experience, as well as failure to imagine such a position. Also fails to prohibit the Jewish priests from having oral sex with other men.

[CarlosIsDown]

@AgentGeorgina yeah, that didn't seem right. I've got to read that deng bible.

[prysmith37]

Bravo!

[AgentGeorgina]

I'm a Christian and I love this video. If you notice, no Christian church has ever joined up with or gotten behind Westboro in ideology.

Although in response to the Bible saying nothing about "women with women," it does—read Romans 1:26.

[AnalogJ]

You go, John!!!

[calimntgirl34]

(o: Also, many people don't know that Leviticus was actually an instruction manual for Israeli priests..Not for the common man....

[wstaib]

I love you, John Fugelsang!!!

[2ndteam]

And this nonsense about homosexuality being a choice! If it is, why would anyone choose it? OK the food is better!

[Germtalia]

@2ndteam they always have nice homes

rolls eye

[ladycplum]

You ROCK John. As for debaser, I smell troll dung, and you're leaving a huge stinking pile of it.

[debaser71]

jesus is mythology

religion is trash

[nocasino]

Near perfect riff on intolerance. Unfortunately the Rush joke - given the Arizona shootings - exposes the whole bit to criticism that will dilute the worthy message IMO.

[Razorlust]

Brilliant vid.



[jvst1ce]

Way to go John!

[humanreplica]

Leviticus is old testament anyway, and that's Jewish. WBC is Baptist. So, you're f*cked right there.

[sabymoon]

@humanreplica Every Christian church I have ever been in has readings from the Old Testament, you silly. Even "Babtist" churches.  Most Christians (and Muslims) believe that the God of the O.T. is the same God of the New Testament.

[paradigm918]

@humanreplica

>>Leviticus is old testament anyway, and that's Jewish. WBC is Baptist. 

Matthew 5: 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

And don't forget, Jesus was a Jew. He opposed the Pharisee's application of scripture (then, what we cal the Old Testament) He often quoted scripture and explained how it applies to us, his followers.

Are you a Paulist (Rom 10:4; Gal 3:23-25; Eph 2:15) or a Christian?

[debaser71]

cafeteria christiany is lame

stop enabling the crazies like phelps by insisting religion is something worthy in the first place

[jamie1707]

Brilliant video.

[relativenewz]

thou shalt not kill .... except every time you stuff something in your mouth.

[debaser71]

lame video

jesus is mythology

and the god of the bible does "hate fags"

never mind that i value freedom of speech more than hurt feelings

[SCORPIOPRODIGY]

John Fugelsang is a brilliant, brilliant man. Please have him make more videos more often.

[Lombokstrait1]

@Bullhornman2010 Gawd wishes you would shut up and stop thumping that Bible that he had nothing to do with.

[Taboo1099]

If only we could get the members of Westboro Baptist Church to watch this piece and actually comprehend what you are saying, we might get somewhere.

[cos2mwiz]

PER. FECT. Can't be said ANY better. BRAVO!!!

[Knucklesmack]

@freespeech - care to point to any scripture where God forbids women with women, or 'Lesbos' as you so charmingly put it? Hint - St. Paul talking about women committing 'unnatural acts' in the past tense doesn't count. And read the book of Ruth while you're at it.

Ah, who am I kidding. I don't think you read much of anything.

[grendelcatt]

great post...

[Brasilmagic]

John, why perpetuate the myth of god? Your message is good, but to talk like the bible is a serious book (it's an old book written along the ages by men who didn't know any science! There is no god, so let's start the homosexuality discussion in biological terms. Some people are birn gay Abd that's how they are, period.

[joeyrufo]

for the record... if you've listened to WBC at all, you'd know that they *interpret* Leviticus as only applying to the theocratic state of Israel... I mean, government. I mean, they think that only government should have the authority to do this "death penalty" stuff... but, w/e... sure... make fun of them... "you're" the one who's "going to hell".. hahahahaha!!!!!!!!! :-P

[betterpresident09]

John Fugelsang, funny, poignant and sexy!

[TruenoandLevin86]

@freespeech Let me ask you a question, WBC praised the shooter for killing those people in Arizona....If I wanted to kill a few people, did God send me? or was that a choice I made on my own will?

[freespeech]

@TruenoandLevin86 Im not a WBC member I'd say the shooter made the choice , what I wanted to point out was God does not think it is OK for lesbos to act as America does.

[PegsHouston]

Thank you.

[raidenshred]

If the Westboro Baptist Church had been around in 33 A.D. they'd have picketed Jesus's funeral for associating with and forgiving sinners.

[don77sicily]

@raidenshred that was cute

[moltenmess]

@Bullhornman2010 "So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have."

...I don't see how 2 Peter 2:12 is directly related to homosexuality.

Also, man shall not lie with man "as he lieth with a woman", so as long as a gay guy doesn't penetrate his boyfriend's vagina everything should be fine.

Judge lest ye not be judged Bullhornman2010.

[lxzander]

@Bullhornman2010 Hey, you may want to research John Fugelsang's roots before questioning his knowledge of the Bible. Merely a suggestion.

[alilywhite]

lol @Bullhornman2010