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  • "There's no such thing as disconnection"

    $cientology spokesman Tommy Davis on CNN

  • kinda looks like as usual he lied.

  • I never heard of a "religion " or a

    "spiritual" group that didn`t include

    love and family in it`s teachings.

    They will have to answer for what they have

    done...

  • thanks for the comment, and hope you enjoyed the video. its just another thing that points out scientology is an non-religion.

  • Christianity teaches that Christ is there to turn father against son, brother against brother. And if you do not hate your family, you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven.

    Buddhism teaches that attachment to your family above others should be transcended. Ideally, you'll walk away from society as you know it and become a monk.

    Of course, both of these religions have other teachings reinforcing the family; Buddhists support family ties for laymen, and Christians largely ignore those verses.

  • ok, and where did you get all that about Christieanity?when did Christ ever go agenst God,or Joe for that matter? you say its "hate or no heaven, but, its main teaching is "love thy neighbor".

    Buddhism i know a little about, but i know they dont force you to break contact with your family. yes you may move away from your family if wish if you become a monk, but that does not mean you sever your relationship or communication with them.

  • I've gotten into too many arguments where the person just ended it with "oh yeah? Well, which verse is that?" And then I point out the verse, and then the other person says "you took it out of context, it actually means the exact opposite of what it says." You can just google the words "Bible hate your mother and father" and find links to all those passages.

  • i was given an intereting link on this.check it out.

    mcwilliams(dot)com(slash)books­(slash)aint(slash)403a(dot)htm

  • Thanks! However, there are many quite brutal (and unpopular) Bible verses that are offensive without having to be fabricated or taken out of context. For example, see 2 Kings 2:23-25 if you're curious as to the appropriate punishment for children who make fun of bald people. Here's a hint: it doesn't involve mercy or love, but it does involve bears.

  • that is an interesting one, but, i just looks like the guy got sick of having them poke fun about his lack of hair and took it a bit to far in his punishment. not quiet saying all kids should be punished in this way for making fun of the bald.

  • He just cursed them in the name of the Lord. According to the verse, the all-perfect God is the one who sent the bears.

  • many other people are attacked by bears, im sure god doesnt send them to attack people, they just travel aroun and if someone gets to close, things do happen.besides, if thats how god thought people should be punished for making fun of bald people, wouldnt there be many many more bear attacks then there are?

  • You mistake my meaning. I'm not saying that it's true; I'm just saying that that's what the Bible says. After all, the Bible also said that anyone who prays in the name of the Son will get whatever he asks for, which clearly doesn't happen.

  • NO IT DOESN'T!!! It doesn't say that anywhere in the new testament that by praying to Jesus you will get what you want! Try reading the bible before commenting upon it! Your ignorance on this subject is plainly obvious!!!

  • "This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us - whatever we ask - we know that we have what we asked of him" (1 John 5:14-15).

    That's just one example. Next time you ask someone to read something, you may want to read it yourself first.

  • "in accordance to his will..." I see the English language is not one of your strong points! Try learning to read and then actually learn to comprehend what is written you illiterate moron!

  • Wow, you can take a fragment of a sentence out of the context of the rest of the sentence and actually turn that into an argument! Bravo.

    "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you" (John 15:7).

  • "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you,"

    Try learning to read you idiot! Or maybe you do not comprehend the comand that is being given here? You really are thick!

  • It's not a command, it's a false promise. It says that if "His" words abide in you, and you abide in him, then you can ask what you will and it will be done. That statement is undeniably false.

  • Well as you have never lived with God in your heart and soul, then you can not judge. you have doubts and you have no faith in God. Therefore you will never understand that statement. To truly comprehend it you have walk its path. You have never abided by God, so why should he grant everything you ask? You take your path and I will stick to mine, then when our times come we will see who is rewarded won't we.

  • Actually, I was raised a Christian and believed that stuff strongly until my early adulthood. You should probably not presume to know people's private lives.

    Besides, if those verses were true, then (as you have all but admitted) he would grant all of the prayers of those who accept him into their heart and soul. This is obviously and demonstrably false.

  • Then you never truly understood it or really believed!

  • If that was true, you would have no way of knowing it. And you have absolutely no reason to believe it. The truth is, it's impossible to understand AND believe it. In order to believe it you have to deceive yourself into forgetting the parts you don't believe.

  • What complete bollocks! You can't run with both the fox and the hounds mate....Chose your side!

  • Read my last post more carefully, it's consistent with the rest of my posts. The only people who believe in Christianity are the ones who don't understand it.  It's just the same as any con; if you know you're being conned, you'll stop it.

  • You're beginning to sound like those bunch of freaks at the Westborogh Baptist Church...Are you sure your name is not Shirley Phelps Roper?

  • Are those guys atheists who think the Bible is pure fiction? That doesn't sound very Baptist to me.

  • No!!! check out the WBC (Westborough Baptist church) on youtube or google....they are more fucked up than Tom Cruise and David Miscavige put together!!! Seriously, look them up. They're complete fruit cakes

  • I'm familiar with it, I was messing with ya. I'm arguing against Biblical ideology, so the comparison doesn't make much sense.

  • I was comparing you to a zealout LMAO!!!

  • ROFL!!!

    OMGWTFLOLROFLMAOBBQ!!!

    I didn't know zealots thought the Bible was fiction, and use quotes from it to demonstrate the fact. Faith's not the same thing as doubt.

  • I was comparing you to a zealout LMAO!!!

  • If you're going to quote from the bible, then at least get the context correct!

  • Here's the context: he was walking into a city to preach. That's it. Then some kids made fun of him for being bald, and he prayed to God, and God killed them with bears.

    Is there a hidden context here that makes infanticide ok? What do you think I've missed?

  • Not that bit you dumbass! I was talking about setting family members against one another in the name of Christ...fuck me your an idiot!

  • O right. The context was: he was giving a speech saying what he was here for. He specified that he is not here to bring peace, but a sword, and that he is here to set father against son etc.

    Why don't people read this stuff before they try to argue with me? All I have to do to win the argument is explain to you what we're talking about.

  • Read the whole passage before it and after it. It will then make sense as to why Jesus said that. The point he was making was that we have freedom of choice and there will those who disagree with even their family over their beliefs. The sword is a metaphor for truth. The truth being the word of God. That is the context. Does that make sense now?

  • Even in that context, he's still talking about violence and conflict. It makes perfect sense, but you haven't actually refuted my point at all except to point out that he wasn't literally bringing a sword.

  • AGAIN I SAY TO YOU! Read the whole passage before it and after it as well as that passage itself. Then it will make sense

  • If you want a theological debate then pm me. Otherwise I suggest you actually read the bible with a study aid rather than reading small snippets here and there and drawing failed and inaccurate conclusions

  • god didnt kill them, the bears did.the bears could have been there before he prayed,just been out of sight.

  • sekret kult is no longer sekret. If disconnection is all you get consider yourself lucky, at least they didnt put you in a hotel room, deprive you of food and water and allow you to die with out any medical attention but did however allow cockroaches to feed on your corpse. RIP lisa mcpherson.

  • thank you for the comment, and hope you liked the video. i am just making videos about one thing at a time so as not to have everything jumbled together. some videos may be funny, some like this one are more about showing some of the bad things they do. the deaths caused by scientology will be its own video, maybe a few videos do the number of them.

  • This video deserves to be spammed all over the internet. I can't even find words on how to comment this.. Really good video.

  • thank you. im glad you enjoyed it.feel free to merror if you like.:)thanks for commenting.

  • Great video DarthTraial. 5 stars, saved to favorites :)

  • glad you enjoyed the video:)thank you for the comment:)

  • Co$ is already disconnected from reality, society and logic.

    LRH left them the with illness which can be descibbed as penisiasis cerebris. (f***ed up brain).

    Stay safe.

    BK

  • thank you for the post:)hope you enjoyed the video, and yes, i fully agree.

  • Disconnection is another of the cult's brainwashing techniques - its purpose is to isolate the Scieno from anyone in their life who may have reservations about the CoS. It is not possible for them to transition up the "Bridge to Total Freedom" if influential people (friends/family) oppose their "beliefs." Since the Scieno has been thoroughly assimilated, they have no choice in the matter - they must rid themselves of SP's or leave the cult.

    xemutv is lying.

    Nice video DT, thank you.

  • glad you enjoyed the video.thanks for posting:)

    would you expect anything else from a brainwashing criminal group?

  • With Scientology, it's always about fear.

    Disconnection is a policy designed to separate followers from those people who love them too much to simply let them fall deeper into the cult.

    Scientology fears that followers will be pulled back into the light by friends and family, people whose tenacity is a result of love.

  • thank you for posting, couldnt agree more.

  • when you put an end to a group that tells people "disconnect or your an sp also" thats helping to stop disconnection.people keep saying that anyone can leave anytime they want, yet, when people try to leave nicly, they get punished and harassed.

  • Adrian, purlease stop talking complete and utter bullshit.

    You're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

    You're ill-educated. Ill-educated. Ill educated. Ill-educated.

    "Why do sons and daughters stop speaking to parents"

    Did you pull this thought for your arsehole?

    You're an idiot wrapped in a stupid person's skin.

  • People disconnect all the time.

  • Yes, but 99 times out or 100 they are not forced to by their church, unlike in Scientology.

  • "People disconnect all the time"

    FLUNK!

    $cientology destroys families. Not only be forcing disconnection from anyone and everyone who dares questions the motives of this money grubbing cult, but also by separating kids from parents so they can perform cheap labor.

    exscientologykids . org

  • Jerks!

  • who?

  • People who drive families apart to spread their teachings. People who fool others into paying to be told fairy tales. People who threaten and bully people who try to back out of their religion.

    JERKS!

  • i think that was a very good description.:)

  • Couldn't agree more.

  • Very good video. Shows the evil of the cult of Scientology and so the reason why people fight against the cult. Families and friends should be together and not divided by people who only want their money.

  • thank you for commenting. glad you enjoyed the video:)also, i agree. familys should not be split up.

  • Another example of Scientology stealing an idea from Christianity, Judaism and Islam and taking it farther than they've taken it since the Middle Ages.

    If your religion discourages opposing points of view, it is because the leaders know that if you think critically about it, you'll find out that they're full of shit.

  • while the three religions you spoke of have had bad spots in their history, they have come shaped up and have always had some sort of saving grace and never really hid who they were or what they believed.scientology(the non-religion) on the other hand, seems to be at the other side of things.anway, thank you for posting and hope you enjoyed the video.:)

  • How's it a non-religion? It shares all of the same characteristics except for theism. And who knows, maybe this Anonymous thing will cause a revolution within COS that leads it to become more ethical.

  • firstly, athieism is not a religion.second, the founder of it clearly said it was not a religion. third, the way its run. there are many more reasons.

  • I never said atheism is a religion, though there are atheistic religions. It's run exactly like Catholicism except that instead of asking for a tithe they have set prices for their services. Hubbard may not have always thought of it as one, but he did name it a "church" and an "applied religious philosophy." He also pursued tax-exempt status for Scientology on the basis that it was a religion.

  • what atheistic religions are there?i wouldnt say its run like the catholic church, scientology if anything is run more along the lines of a corrupt uncareing company that trys to destroy the consumer's lives.what religion needs its own toy army?i can start up a group and call them church of the jedi order, doesnt mean its a religion.also, might want to look up the origional meaning of the word church.

  • as for the tax exempt status, diffrence between pursueding and harrasing.

  • Buddhism, Scientology, Satanism, Humanism and Taoism are all atheistic religions. There are Jewish, Catholic and Islamic armies that are either not tied to a specific country or are in a theocratic country. "Church" came from the Greek "Kiriake," literally meaning "Lord's House." It was first used to describe houses of Christian worship in the third century. In England, a startling number of people listed their religion as "Jedi" in a recent census.

  • Buddhism does have a god. many of them in fact. they are called the Bhagwat.Taoism has gods, Yu-Huang also known as The Jade Emoeror is sort of like Zuse in he is the leader of their gods.humanism is not a religion, if you look up what it is, its just a philosophy on how people should act. not a religion.satanism, right in the name it tells you who they warship. its sort of a christian religion where they warship the "badguy".

  • they may be an army made up of all or mostly of people from a religion, but, they are not the army of that religion, there is no army that takes orders from the pope, or his counterparts in other religions.he doesnt even have his own bodyguards.i believe its the swiss that loan the catholic church some of their troops to use as bodyguards and when the pope goes to other countries, those countries most of the time asign him some guards as well.

  • the origional meaning of church was "body of Christ" and since co$ doesnt believe in Christ, it shouldnt really call their company a church.they may have listed jedi, but its not recignised and they have not gotten any tax breaks, now have they?

  • Awesome.

  • im glad you enjoyed:)thank you for commenting.

  • Wonderful compilation and straight to the point. It scratches the surface of a huge set of crimes & lies perpetrated by CoS, not just against their own members but many, many others.

    Co$ will of course vehemently deny culpability

    in any actions they are caught red-handed in, will shelter perpetrators if there is anything to gain from them, and shun the rest of the cannon-fodder as witnessed so often. One of their biggest lies is that 'fairgame' doesn't exist, call a horse a frog, but.....

  • im glad you liked the video:)thank you for commenting, and i agree, they want to be able to do whatever they like and reep the rewords, but not take the punishment.

  • What a beautiful video. Thank you for posting this.

  • glad you enjoyed the video:)thank you for commenting.

  • Thanks for posting, 5 stars.

  • glad you liked it, thanks for commenting:)

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