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  • "America is a very religious country"

    False.

    Religion is not one of the 13 american values.

  • I liked the fact that you waited to comment until the completion of the video. Also pausing the video to comment would've been acceptable, but not quite as good because you lose a little bit of the flow of the conversation. So good job on that :).

  • @steeeeever ...there are many who claim to be Christian, and are not in, because they have a religion and they do not have Jesus Christ. This is exactly why Jesus said: "Many will say to Me on that day, Lord Lord, have we not prophecied in Your name, cast out demons in Yout name and done many wonders in Your name?' Abd I will tell them plainly, 'Away from Me, you who practice lawlessness, I never knew you.'" (Matthew 7:21-23). I know you want to associate evil with Jesus, repent from religion.

  • How come the US is one of the only countries in the world with a secular constitution drafted by atheists, and yet it's full of religious loons?

    Answers on a postcard please.

  • @rorshak73

    The secular Constitution was drafted by lapsed Christians, and current christians...for a majority christian population, at the time christians were less evil.

  • IN ANSWER TO THE PREACHERS QUESTION AS TO WHO FOUNDED AMERICA , ATHEIST OR CHRISTIANS THE ANSWER IS ATHEISTS WERE MAINLY RESPONSIBLE FOR FOUNDING AMERICA, FRANKLIN, JEFFERSON, ADAMS AND MANY OTHER AMERICAN LEADERS OF THE TIME WERE ATHEIST. AMERICA WAS NOT FORMED FOR FREEDOM OF RELIGION IN AS MUCH AS IT WAS FORMED TO ESCAPE RELIGION. TO BE RELIGIOUS OR NOT.

  • @otherworldtrader1 many were freemasons,they think they are kind of neutral but it another religion for men only

  • I WONDER IF THE MUSLIM LADY REALIZES THAT JUST A FEW YEARS AGO CHRISTIAN WOMEN AND GIRLS WERE FORCED INTO THE SAME SITUATION AS SHE IS CONCERNING CLOTHES, AND EQUALITY.SHE NEEDS TO TAKE THE RAGS OFF AND BE FREE.

  • Why was Ellen Johnson fired as president of AA?  What is she doing now? How can I contact her?

    --Kevin Walsh

    Phoenix, Arizona

  • @kevinwalsh1619 There was some dispute about her doing a walk for some time of fundraising demonstration and that's all I know.

  • @brianrock11

    She's already in Hell.

    A country where most of it's inhabitants would condemn her because she doesn't believe exactly what they believe.

    Infected units like yourself.

    Your'e mind is currently in the OFF position.

  • @brianrock11 Only in a fairy tale.

  • @brianrock11 scum like u are the reason why atheists hate christians

    im a catholic but i wouldnt tell someone they were going to hell, its just rude

  • @Michel470

    I believe so.

    If i am wrong i will blame the faulty brain i was equipped with by my "creator".

    Who apparently doesn't make mistakes.

  • @Michel470

    Religion has evolved from a simple idea from around 10000 years ago into a form of socially transmitted Bio-Malware...GODWARE.

    Infants are deliberately infected before life-experience and logic can act as a firewall.

    The unprotected mind is easy prey for GODWARE installation.

    It is then constantly reinforced by teachers,clergy,state,media and the rest of the infected population until it becomes absolute truth.

    Fear and comfort hold the virus in place for most til the end.

  • religion falls under individual rights and should only be strengthened by strengthening the rights of the individual. No special rights for religions are needed that way and it also ensures that those archaic ideologies don't gain more power

  • @drjackflash No, Ellen is the atheist.

  • If I claim Bigfoot exists, I'd better be able to prove it. But don't ask me to prove that Bigfoot doesn't exist, for it's impossible to prove a negative. Now, about that god......

  • man, i wish she know the answer at the time, the jewish guy probably would have shat himself.

  • Who founded America, whites or minorities? So who is more significant to the future of our country?

    That was one of the most biased modern news casts I've ever seen. That old guy was so condescending, referring to her as "the atheist" and having that smug little smile when he asked a totally unprovoked question. She might have been able to answer if he wasn't so intentionally threatening.

  • If you love your enemy, they can't be your enemy.

  • @RandomNightmarez That's not cool or accurate.

  • @RandomNightmarez humans never evolved from monkeys of any sort, they both have separate lineage... and the scientific evidence shows proof of both lines. what real proof do you have in return?

    "fuck every atheist in the world"... would that be a god of forgiveness and lov e that you belive in or are you one of those crazy judgemental baptists or something. remember, thou shalt not judge! that is only for your god to do. we atheists however can judge you to be a right dickhead.

  • @incredingo so what we came from primordial soup come on be serious with your self. like i always weard from a young age the their WILL have his DAY(S) but the owner will have his DAY. and our owner is the God of Israel. so go ahead and mock and blaspheme. that day is coming sure enough

  • @RandomNightmarez Question, Are you an f'ing moron?

  • @atchisrj1 its a joke hick relax dont get your panties in a bunch

  • @RandomNightmarez Hick? Really? Are you that stupid? Oh, wait don't answer that I already know the answer.

  • @RandomNightmarez

    did you know that monkeys also don't believe in evolution.

    it seams you agree with your cousins, perhaps you are closer to them then a more evolved atheist.

  • Why does he say "It's easy for those that live in New York to get out of touch with America" ? Is New York not also a part of the U.S? I have noticed this quite a bit in the U.S media where someone will talk about New York or other large urban areas as if they are not "real America".

    I would like to hear from New Yorkers or other American urban dwellers. Does this offend you ?

  • way to go mr44doom...we know Jesus will show them the hard way even though he still loves them all.

  • LOL who founded America? I'm actually pissed of at her for not being able to answer him back..let's see...Those who founded America were those who supported slavery, racism etc...what does that have to do with anything? we r not living in the past. Also in the past (400-500 years ago) if you would have mentioned that you are not Christian, they would either kill u or torture you, so the "Founders of America" are not really represantative of today's society.

  • America was not founded to be a Christian nation. It was founded specifically to have a separation of state and church.

  • As an atheist, I often wonder how many public officials are actually atheist/agnostic, but pretend to be religious for the sake of their careers. The likelihood of most of the American public actually electing someone who is openly an atheist/agnostic is slim to none.

  • When someone tells you he doesn't believe in the Bible, why do you offer him more of the same BS? The Bible is NOT a good argument for people who already rejected it.

    It's unfortunate that your make believe faith has nothing else to offer those who don't believe in fairy tales...except more fairy tales. Do you feel silly yet? If not, just keep up the same old same old horse and pony show. It's YOU who's making an ass of himself, and you'll be more alienated than you already are.

  • the founding fathers where against religion....

  • @miganders Against religion in politics maybe but it was the era of Enlightenment and Deism/Unitarianism was popular

  • @miganders ....true...the founding fathers were against religion, but they were for the gospel of Jesus Christ! Patrick Henry said - "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on any religions but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!"

  • Obama is a Christian - he stated that he was before he was elected - and he won!

  • Help end the plague.

    Make the world a better place.

    Become an Atheist today.

  • @BCT071

    May God B. Less!

  • @BCT071 your life is a lie

  • @mr44doom

    You are among the infected population.

    Seek help.

  • @BCT071 it will be very ironic to you one day you will be the one with a real life plague thats if you make it? either way you die twice. god bless

  • @mr44doom

    God bless ?

    Which god ?

    Plenty to choose from.

  • @BCT071 there is only one true God and your soon to know his good or his bad side you will still know him aint here to argue the truth is the truth its void of opinion. time will tell you. atheisim makes no sense in itself you believe somehow evrything just fell into place. lol. so sad no hope this world is all you have and all you see your going to be sry wanna bet?

  • @mr44doom

    "There is only one true God"

    This is the phrase most commonly used by believers of all types.

    It says nothing other than how strongly indoctrinated you have been and it also indicates cultural superiority complex.Spiritual Nationalism.

    The ancient Egyptions were so convinced that their Gods were real that they built monuments that will still be standing long after their Gods and your God are dead.

    You are sleepwalking.

  • I love how people who don't know God have an opinion on him. Atheist love to point out so called Christians and use them to lable all followers of Christ, but if they read the Scriptures they would realise that most people calling themselves Christians are not of Christ. Jesus was not religious. God has no religion. Love Him with all your being, and love others as you love yourself. If you can do this, you will please God. Period. Nothing else matters

  • rob, you don't know god either. You have an imaginary friend. Let me guess, you are a real xian and Jerry Falwell isn't? Jesus was religious. He said he was here to fulfil the law in the torah. God has no religion because god is just a mythical character in stories. You don't know what pleases god but you sure act like you know god better than others but we both know that's not possible when you aren't any more intelligent or don't have some special gift.

  • @TXatheist you find out who God is through the bible.. i mean thats what its for....i mean if you think 2,345 individual stories that are uniquely inter woven with prereferance and post refrence from one story to another with/out one single glitch in the web is some man inspired book then i dnt think you study history?? get over it there is a God and you will surely die and meet him no imagination...why hasnt so called man written more book as such to add to confusion? be honest with yourself

  • @mr44doom You mean the koran. If you don't think Mithraism was the inspiration for the jesus myth you didn't study history. Get over it, man made up god to fill a void in his insecurity and ignorance. When we die we decompose. Man did write more books, the book of mormon is just like the bible, a story that only the delusional believe.

  • @TXatheist lol the book of mormons is not even close to the complicity of the bible.lol...it seems to me that Man is doing everything they can since the reformation to destroy the bible and its believers fastfoward to today and all over the world man still does there are over 200 countries that call the bible illegal. if man created it to control why are they trying to destroy the foundation of it. your theory makes no sense. yea if satan doesnt exist why do the elite use alot of satan symbolism

  • @mr44doom The bible is even more wrong than the book of mormon is all. I'm not destroying it, I'm ensuring it's not told as literal history by fundies. What does 200 countries declaring the bible illegal have to do with anything? Because the men that created to control were wrong to do so. It's false authority. A cult leader creates methods to control his followers so it makes sense to stop him. The only people that "use" satan are the control freaks who try to scare believers to conform

  • @mr44doom The bible is even more wrong than the book of mormon is all. I'm not destroying it, I'm ensuring it's not told as literal history by fundies. What does 200 countries declaring the bible illegal have to do with anything? Because the men that created to control were wrong to do so. It's false authority. A cult leader creates methods to control his followers so it makes sense to stop him. The only people that "use" satan are the control freaks who try to scare believers to conform

  • @TXatheist ok bro you WIIL die and find out the hard way. god bless

  • @mr44doom No, you will remain naive and believe a fairy tale and refuse to accept you will simply decompose. Dog bless cause at least dogs exist.

  • @TXatheist your a simpleton you hate the truth for fear your sins be exposed. to bad the truth is still the truth and regardless of what you say im right lol...have fun dying twice and keep comparing your God to a dog. the day when his infinite wrath falls on your head will be a sad day...have fun dying twice bro

  • @mr44doom You are a stupid xian that has the intellect of a 5 year old that still thinks santa is real(but you call santa god and hope for his present, heaven) instead of presents on xmas day. Sins? You know NOTHING about me. You are too dumb to know "the truth" regardless if you are too ignorant to comprehend that. My god? I'm as scared of god as I am santa not bringing me presents, both mythical characters that only people of a 5 year old intellect believe in.

  • @TXatheist farewell...so sad

  • @mr44doom You are truly.

  • @mr44doom

    "Everything that isn't faith is sin."

    Stop using computers, they aren't in scripture.

  • @TimJMorrison WHAT? how bout you stop using your computer there would be one less dumbass online.thanks and God bless

  • @mr44doom

    1)The Bible says everything that isn't faith is sin.

    2)Youtube isn't faith.

    3)Youtube is sin.

    4) Christians should avoid sin.

    5)You should avoid youtube.

    Easier to understand?

  • @TimJMorrison bro why would i even adhere to your take on what the bible mean? now do you get it? you have no light in you! you choose not to accept it. im on here talking to atheist about Jesus Christ out of faith. i go by ten laws grow up bro and go to your Father Jesus Christ

  • @mr44doom

    No, I'm a christian and you aren't.

    There are 613 commandments in the bible. You don't even understand that.

  • @TimJMorrison your not smart so stop trying to be im beyond christian im a Jesus follower i suggestr you become one too lest you die twice.regarless me following all the commandments doesnt get me into heaven its my acception of Jesus Christ as my savior without him i cant get in neither can you. your a puppet of satan and dont even know. so sad. good day

  • @mr44doom

    You spelled "you're" wrong.

    "acception" isn't a word.

    Aiming to get into heaven is greed.

    I am Satan baby; also Belial, Leviathen and Lucifer :-D.

  • @mr44doom it was never my aim to get into heaven its a result of my faith. and i am baptised. and im glad you know what side your on makes me feel better see you on the battle field bitch. i gunning for you bro.lol

  • @mr44doom

    And of course, out of those 613 you subtract the old testament ones (including the ten commandments).

  • @TimJMorrison lol you like twisting things its a sad show of desperation. those are the mosaic laws that go on the side of the covenant not inside. second when Jesus died those laws went out the window. it was Jesus himself that stop the men from stoning the women for prostitution he was showing those laws were on the way out. so set of laws is written by man the other ten written with the finger of God big diff bro

  • @mr44doom

    They only go out of the window if you are baptised, that is the second covenant.

  • @mr44doom

    PS are you new to the internet or have you never talked to a discordian before?

  • @mr44doom tell me do you have any proof at all outside of a 2000 year old fairy tale that what you claim is the truth? there have been many many religions in the past and unfortunately will probably be more in the future. Tell me what is your proof that your god exists and is the right way

  • @slickwick45 regardless of what i tell you your just going to dismiss it as vague or some secular way of thinking your heart is harden. some point of your life you let doubt come in which IS satan and you never looked back you never ask him for direction he wont give you what you want but what you need and our sinful carnality wants to be bigger than the next man...crabs in a bucket ....its pretty sad if you ask me?

  • @mr44doom well now that was a very rude and arrogant response. You know nothing about me and yet you say my heart is hardened and Satan has taken over my life. What unbelievable baseless remarks. ill have you know im a very open minded person when it comes to pretty much anything especially more open minded than 90% of religious people that I know and going by what you just said that includes you too. I ask you to prove you God exists and you say Satan has taken over my heart. wow thats rude

  • @slickwick45 read first comment its a true fact if you dnt realize it now then hopefully later if not later then you'll die and come back and realize the three choices EVERY atheist has.nuff said

  • @mr44doom no it is not truth that is your opinion based upon the controlling lies of religion. There is absolutely no truth in that statement because there is not a shred of proof to anything you have said so far. Three choices? what do you mean?

  • @TXatheist not to mention the over 400,000 linear geneologies that are kept in chronicle order thru out the whole bible. just for your info over 20 ancestry companies including the YOUR Government also uses the bible as a reference when exacting ones natives ancestry...you wouldnt know that? you have no clue about your family that was here even 1000 yrs back talkless 4000 yrs...your cut off from your roots just like Satan planned you have no hunger for the truth of YOU.. i hope you wake up 1 day

  • @mr44doom You think Noah from the bible lived to 900+ years old? You think if you trace back the geneology you will find out there was an Adam and Eve about 6000 years ago? Nope, no geneologist or anthropologist or paleontologist will agree. Satan? Oh boy, another fictional being only found in your head and make believe. I hope you find common sense.

  • @TXatheist whatever bro you hate the truth and what to refuse it at any cost...regardless of what you say. and like i said OVER 20 ANCESTRY COMPANIES INCLUDING YOUR Government use the bible to to find ppl native ancestry. Live your lie if you want. YOU WILL be sry. i can gaurantee you that bro..so im guessing all the bible prophecies that came to pass and are coming to pass like israel becoming a nation in 1946 which was predicted 4000 yrs in advance is just luck? half the world try to kill them

  • @mr44doom Sorry there arrogant one but you do not have the truth contrary to your ego. Live your fairy tale lie if you need that insecurity met. I will not be sorry because you say so and the bible says so, it's a fairy tale. Please be aware Ezekiel 36 says Israel will be like the Garden of Eden. If you consider that war torn area the Garden of Eden you are wrong and the bible is wrong. False prophecy once again.

  • Faith is polarising and dangerous. Faith does not make sound politics. Elected representatives should support their voters on the basis of nation and geography not some phony sense of religious unity.

  • "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." - John Adams

    I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

    - Susan B. Anthony

    "The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."

    -- Abraham Lincoln

    Lighthouses are more helpful then churches. — Benjamin Franklin

  • I was raised a jew, I know the torah through and through and any man who claims the values therein are wholly beneficial to society are insane. We don't stone children to death for disrespect, or kill adulters,homosexuals and eaters of shellfish- so in their own words they should "seriously rethink their values" America is way past the bronze age cruelties of the bible, thanks primarily to the separation of secular law from biblical law.

  • Can two walk together, except they be agreed?Amos 3:3.

  • Well I'm atheist and my wife theist and we are going on 11 years of marriage.

  • "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."

    Thomas Jefferson

  • nice independent thinking

  • OH,Yeah what dose he know. A Slave owner,and a child melestor. Many of which were slave that he pro created....

    Yeah,hes one to talk......

  • @magicdogfighterV2 thomas jefferson was right the truth is always perverted

  • Got to say Ellen is kind of hot :P

  • Ellen & Ann coulter

  • Not only were the founding fathers not Christians and proponents of separation of church and state.

    But Prager's question is inherently flawed. It effectively shows how one couldn't be an atheist in that time period and hold any political power.

    How do I know this as a fact? An atheist can't hold office today!

    BTW, Great ending words by TX Atheist.

    Clear, concise and cogent.

  • Definitely, the founding fathers were secularists. Ellen should have stated this. In America, do you have only two choices? =P

  • I'm amused that you even think it matters.

  • 80% my ass. lolz The average religious person is such a compulsive liar, what does that tell you about religious politicians.

  • My parents are "Christian" but they don't believe in the church and all their children abandoned Christianity. We probably statistically Christian be default. I agree, the stats are way off.

  • fuck organized religion if you want to worship a god do it at home and shut the fuck up

  • This isn't what God says to do.

    What you say is what the devil would like.

  • vrg, nope, what you say is devilish and my points are angelic/good.

  • Give it up TXatheist...

    "Some people are not ready to be set free. Others are so ingrained, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

    -Morpheus, Matrix 1 (since we're quoting fiction here now)

  • Deluded atheists are close-minded!

    What proof exists to substantiate the claim that being is equivalent to matter and that the whole world of being consists of material entities?

    What scientist rejecting metaphysics has ever been able to found his denial on logic or proof, or to furnish evidence that beyond absolute non-being, nothing exists outside the seen realm?

  • What are the world and the beings on made of? There's your proof. The unknown of science doesn't mean god is possible. Argument from ignorance is what that fallacy is called.

  • Although science does not explicitly and definitively reject every unknown thing simply because it can have no access to it by means of its tools and instruments, patiently awaiting instead the day when it should be discovered, materialists do not even approach the question of the existence of God with doubt and hesitation; on the basis of their erroneous and hasty prejudices, they pronounce their judgment that the Creator does not exist. .........

  • We have approached the existence of god idea. Zero logic, zero evidence.

  • Zero logic, zero evidence.

    __________

    One of the most destructive and misleading factors in thoughts concerning God is to restrict one's thought to the logic of the empirical sciences and to fail to recognize the limits and boundaries of that logic. Since the specialists in the empirical sciences devote all their mental energy to the sensory sciences, they are alien to matters that lie beyond sense perception. This alienation, this distance from non-sensory matters, ......

  • If they are alien to such senses and they are smarter than you I have to ask how you know about them?

  • this extraordinary trust in the data yielded by the empirical sciences, reaches such a point that testing and experimentation form the whole mental structure and world view of such specialists. They regard experimentation as the only acceptable tool and means of cognition, as the sole criterion. They expect it to solve every problem. The function of the sciences is to explain the relationships between phenomena; their aim is to establish the connection between events, ......

  • Realizing god is imaginary is not a problem. The problem is trying to understand why cognitive dissonance is such a problem in our society and why people believe in god.

  • not between God and events. In the experimental sciences, man is not at all concerned with God. One should not expect to be able to perceive supra-sensory realities by means of sensory criteria, or to see God in a laboratory. The sciences cannot carry out a laboratory experiment on the existence of God and then reach the verdict that if a thing is not physically observable and it cannot be established by means of laboratory experiment and mathematical calculation, it, therefore, has no reality.

  • We shouldn't expect to see god in a lab because god is a character man made up in his head. The reality is you have a make-believe friend and can't accept that's all god is.

  • In fact, no experiment can be set up to determine whether a non-material being exists or not, because only that which can be negated by means of experiment can be proven by means of experiment. Science and metaphysics are two forms of knowledge which enjoy equal degrees of validity and authenticity. A meta- physical law neither arises from experimentation nor can it be negated by experimentation. ......

  • Once again, you have claimed god is non-material with no basis other than the idea in your head.

  • Thousands of scientific experiments are designed to prove that all things are material; they will all fall short of their goal.

    The empirical scientist has the right to say, "I have found such- and-such," or "I have not found such-and-such." He does not have the ** right ** to say, "Such-and-such a thing does ** not ** exist."

  • Right, you can't prove a negative. You can't prove something that does not exist....does not exist.

  • Laboratory methods, for all their complexity and advanced state of development, cannot find their way through the unknown, dark and expansive world of the elements that is the object of experimentation; they cannot understand all the realities hidden in the heart of the infinite atoms; and, they cannot even discover the true nature of matter.

  • The empirical method has been very useful in developing man's awareness of the precise order of creation, and, it may provide a clear and novel basis for belief in the Lord through its investigation of the order of creation, for it indicates the existence of a conscious and powerful Creator. However, the aim and purpose of scientists in their researches and investigations into questions of nature and the mysteries of the world is generally not to perceive the Creator of existence. .......

  • Or it may not provide a belief in mythical beings and people may appreciate the science behind how our world/life came to be. It indicates no such thing. Had you not been told the creation story of your religion you wouldn't believe it just as you don't believe the Hindu creation story. There is still zero basis for a creator so scientists don't waste their time on it.

  • In the course of its continuous development at the hands of researchers, science is constantly uncovering the mysteries of existence without the scientists emerging, by means of their science, from the ** narrow ** and restricted knowledge given them by the current stage of their researches. If they were to do so, they would realize the connectedness of phenomena and the subordination of all things to a given order, and, thus, attaining two additional stages of knowledge and insight. .....

  • First, they would be able to correlate all their sensory, empirical data, and then they would be able to draw rational conclusions and make interpretations. Without admitting the existence of a wise Creator, it is impossible to interpret convincingly the *** totality *** of the varied data yielded by the different sciences and the connections existing among them.

  • Realizing their is no creator still brings us all the knowledge we have and none of it is useless creation myths that are unverifiable because the only basis for them is some guy had an imagination of how life arose.

  • Practically, however, the work and the method of scientific thought is to formulate principles and undertake research without reference to God, so that a system of thought from which God is absent becomes the axis on which scientific work turns, causing man to be alienated from whatever lies beyond the scope of that thought.

    At the same time, man's practical life is inevitably connected with the sciences.

  • Because at no point does god interact or do anything to be a part of the understanding of our universe. Right, it's practical to avoid god and that's what I do but I am constantly reminded by theists that they have a god in their life and therefore am forced to bring god into the realm when there is no practical reason.

  • The results yielded by empirical knowledge embrace all the material aspects of life, imprisoning man within their four impenetrable walls, and it is hardly possible to find any natural tool among the means of man's life. This necessarily increases man's trust in the sciences and affects his behavior, inducing in him a state of doubt and hesitation.

  • At what point does science say we must remain within certain boundries. String theory, quantum mechanics were discovered. Doubt is a good thing. Challenge thought as science has done and you will learn theistic creation myths are not science.

  • The beneficial nature of the phenomena investigated by empirical science is tangible and awarent to everyone, in sharp contrast to metaphysical questions. Similarly, the material phenomena investigated by empirical science are well-known, whereas the opposite is true in the case of metaphysics.

    The presentation of religious questions in the incorrect method combined with enmity to all manifestations of science, was the most important factor in making empirical science appear preferable...

  • Appear more preferable or it's actually reliable, testable, observable? The latter.

  • Appear more preferable or it's actually reliable, testable, observable? The latter.

    ___________

    How would an atheist believe in a God whom he cannot see?

    Common sense?

    In order to believe in something, you do not necessarily have to see it. Your very existence is a great evidence on the existence of Adam and Eve, or let us say the first two human beings or THE FIRST WHATEVER....

  • I believe in god, I believe the guys who wrote the books made up a story about a fictional being god. I believe there is a story book character named god. My existence is proof my parents had sex.  That's the problem....the first whatever. You wish to call it god instead of saying you don't know.

  • YOU STILL DON'T GET IT, DO YOU???

    DID YOU READ AND COMPREHEND THE COMMENT, OR ARE YOU MERELY QUIBBLING???

    The Creator of the universe cannot be preceded by non-existence; otherwise, He would need another god to create Him; and that god, if he is preceded by non-existence, would need another god and so on. ......

  • Thus, we would have an endless chain of gods without reaching a causeless cause to be the source of the existence of the universe. Then we have to deny the existence of the universe. We would also have to deny ourselves because we are a part of the universe.

    "And the parable of those who disbelieve is as the parable of one who calls out to that which hears no more than a call and a cry; deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand. "

    The Koran 2:171

  • No, we don't have to deny the existence of the universe to realize there is no god. Energy and matter are the source. God is an imaginary friend for theists.

  • No, we don't have to deny the existence of the universe to realize there is no god. Energy and matter are the source. God is an imaginary friend for theists.

    -------------

    YOU ARE STILL QUIBBLING!!!!!

    "I don't deny energy and matter at all. "

    You say that the source of all phenomena is matter-energy; what is the cause and origin of matter-energy?

  • We don't know. It could have been the Flying Spagetti Monster if you wish to believe in fictional beings.

  • We don't know.

    ___________

    You don't know?

    Then why are YOU quibbling?

    What you THINK, you got the brain for?

    Eating BANANAS and thinking about your ancestors, the MONKEYS?

    USE you BRAIN!

    ********* The chain of causality cannot recede into infinity!!!!!***********

  • You don't know, no one knows. Why are using the god of the gaps argument? Because you don't know any better and no scientist thinks we came from monkeys so it's obvious you don't understand evolution either. The chain of causality cannot recede to god because god is a myth.

  • The chain of causality cannot recede to god because god is a myth.

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    JUMPING THE GUN AND QUIBBLING!!!

    Since the chain of causality cannot recede into infinity, THE BANANA RETARD ATHEISTS can answer *only* that matter is an eternal and timeless entity for which no beginning can be posited: matter is non-created, has no beginning or end, and its being arises from within its own nature.

    "........deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand. "

    The Koran 2:171

  • No, look up the word myth. Banana retard atheist? Screw muhammad(no pbuh) and may he be anally raped by satan a thousand times a day in hell. Koran 1:1

  • No, look up the word myth. Banana retard atheist? Screw

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    Is science too heavy for you to comprehend?

    Your comment shows your *deficiency* of knowledge and *puerility of your intellect *!

    Brainless cuckoo bang bang atheists with asinine mind!

    Same STUPID QUIBBLING when cornered and intellectually whipped and defeated!!

    "........deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand. "

    The Koran 2:171 .......

  • Irony?  You claim it's me that lost and you believe in god? sorry, you suffer from cognitive dissonance and you couldn't beat me in any way, shape or form. You are inferior.

  • When these darwinian monkey atheists can't refute your arguments scientifically then they resort to same stupid QUIBBLING and hide their ignorance and arrogance under it's stupid pretext!

    This means that the brainless cuckoo bang bang atheists with asinine mind and the materialists accept the principle of eternity and non-origination; they believe that all things arose out of eternal matter and that being arises from within the very nature of matter, without any need for a creator.

  • When you fail to comprehend that god is not the cause of anything you keep repeating that god is the First Cause and that isn't science, that's religion. It's not quibbling, it's patience trying to educate a theist who doesn't understand god is a myth.

  • You did not see Adam and Eve, or THE FIRST WHATEVER let us say the first two human beings or THE FIRST WHATEVER, but you believe that they existed.

    To make it more clear: You came through your parents. Your parents came through their parents, and your grand parents came through their parents, and so on. You may continue going back until you reach Adam and Eve or THE FIRST WHATEVER......

  • Energy and matter.

  • If you deny the existence of the first two human beings or THE FIRST WHATEVER, you would be eliminating the first generation of their children. By eliminating the first generation, you eliminate the second and what is beyond it. Finally, you have to eliminate your own parents. Then you have to eliminate yourself. But you say to yourself: I cannot do that because I am here. Then you have to say: Adam and Eve or THE FIRST WHATEVER were there.

  • I don't deny energy and matter at all.

  • to philosophical and meta- physical concerns. In short, science appeared to be opposed to religion, not parallel to it.

    Once empirical logic succeeded in pouring all thoughts into its own mould, it colored men's outlook on the world to such a degree that they were convinced that it was the only basis for accepting the truth of a thing.

    They assigned it supreme authority and considered it impossible to prove the existence of anything imperceptible to the senses.

  • Because science is verifiable where god is not. Colored men's outlook? The false sense of knowledge has been religion. They have never considered impossible to prove god but there is no basis for god so they stopped trying. If some shred of evidence or logic actually arose for god then that would be different.

  • Such persons establish certain criteria and standards for themselves and are not prepared to apply a different criterion established for a definite purpose in a given area. For example, they would never use the criteria applicable to a surface to measure a body, but when it comes to measuring the supra-sensory world, they try to measure God, the spirit, and inspiration, with the same tools they use to measure the material world. When they find themselves unable to gain any knowledge of the .....

  • How do you know god is not natural and is supernatural? That is why god is a belief.

  • the entities in question, they proceed to deny their existence.

    Now, if a person imprisoned in empirical logic desires to accept the reality of the universe only to the extent permitted him by sensory experience and to deny whatever lies beyond that, he must recognize that this is a path he has chosen for himself; it is not the result of scientific investigation and experiment. ....

  • It is the result of scientific investigation and experiment. We are not denying we have limited knowledge but we aren't listening to guys that make up stories and say that's what god is all about. That's your belief in your head and no where else.

  • This kind of pseudo-intellectualism arises from intellectual rebellion and an abandonment of one's original nature. The god that the natural scientist wishes vainly to "prove" with his tools and instruments is, in any event, no god at all in the view of those who worship God.

  • Your delusional problem of suffering from cognitive dissonance concerning god is not intellectualism but a problem of the mind. Right, the god you worship is an idea in your head.

  • I would like to tell you that our nation, The United States of America, was founded by Freemasons, which at that time WAS a christian secret society! My main question is, how can you prove something wrong if you have no proof? We have no proof that you are wrong, and you have no proof we are... in fact as science gets closer and closer to try to prove it wrong, they prove that it in fact, is more true than not... we all have flaws in what we believe, and that is my answer.

    Calletha

  • calle, I'd like to tell you that some of the FF were Deists/Unitarians and many did not consider them xian but there were FF who were Freemason and Pat Henry was the one outright xian. You are right I can't prove something that doesn't exist...does not exist. That's called proving a negative. Science has shown how the bible is wrong.

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  • Psalms 14:1 The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."

    2 Peter 3:3-4 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers shall come with mockery, walking after their own lusts, 4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

  • Slave mentality you have, obedience without questioning just like the leaders want. Matt 5:22 whoever says 'You fool!' will be subject to hell fire....so you better hope your story book isn't true or you'll burn