Paul Merson and Gary Neville agree that Arsenal are far behind Man Utd.

[84redfan]

all speak shit arsenal season over in february van persie shite would look even less average in a decent team u can piss and moan all u want about finance still wont win arsenal anything or liverfool

[jackmilo89]

But its hard to compete financially with clubs like City,Chelsea and Utd.The money Arsenal spend and the players they have getting into the top 4 is the best they can do.An saying that spending lots of money doesn't even guarantee you success.

[Martinez1887]

what a surprise, arsenal is not a big club and they never were and they never will be

[MrAFCJay]

@Martinez1887 they never were? fair weather supporter who supports united because they were winning a match when you turned on tele one day, prick.

[jackmilo89]

@Martinez1887 What a stupid comment from a gloryhunter.

[TheDanbazza]

Man utd always top 3- arsenal lucky to get top 4 this season!! arsenal fans are deluded if they think they are anywhere near on utds level

[jackmilo89]

@TheDanbazza Arsenal fans dint think they are.Arsenal don't spend millions and millions of pounds on players like Utd do so of course there not on Utd's level.

[TheDanbazza]

@jackmilo89 We hardly spend anywhere near as much as city or chelsea and as neville says in this our team is just as young as yours...maybe its about time Wenger stops being a croissant and tries to sign a couple of big players

[jackmilo89]

@TheDanbazza You don't spend as much as City and Chelsea? Those two teams had to spend alot of money not just compete but then to try and overtake.You have 2 strikers alone that cost 60 million together and then Ferdinand 30 mill,Young 18mill,Carrick 18 etc.But its Wenger philosophy not to throw money at everything some say its good some like you say he should.He feels teams who spend more money than the club makes is a form of cheating I reckon he cant wait for the financial fairplay to come in

[xxxSLITxxx]

@jackmilo89 overall transfer spending (buying AND selling) in the past decade Man Utd have spent only a few million more than arsenal. but on the pitch we have won many things which has increased our global fan base and increased revenue which is re-invested in our team bringing even more success. arsenal haven't won anything in 7 years. fanbase is small compared to UTD and so revenue is smaller. so less spending and no silverware. so united make MUCH MORE money than arsenal and win MUCH more.

[xxxSLITxxx]

@xxxSLITxxx (continued) so when financial fair play comes, it won't affect United because we spend what we make. man united is the worlds most valuable sports franchise (by a LONG way). so we will continue to spend big on players and win trophies. only teams like manchester city for example who rely on sugar daddies will be affected. United will continue to dominate and grow whilst arsenal are in decline with a stubborn manager who wont admit his faults and a board are just in it for the money.

[jackmilo89]

@xxxSLITxxx You just typed nothing i didn't already know.I don't know where you got Man Utd have only spent a few million more than Arsenal in the last decade.You were already a bigger club than Arsenal anyway even before Wenger took over,Wenger did well to compete against Utd when you could spend 30 million on a CB.The problem is most kids will go and be a glory hunter ad support Man Utd because "its the thing to do" which is annoying instead of supporting there local club or whatever.

[xxxSLITxxx]

@jackmilo89 i support United because my Uncle did, so no, i am not your typical glory hunter. also, United have a transfer net spend about 80 million more than arsenal since 2003. now that may sound a lot but thats just 10 million a year which in football terms is nothing. by spending that extra 10 million united have had successes that have brought in many times more than that in revenue and prize money. so as a percentage of net income as a whole, united actually spent less than arsenal.

[jackmilo89]

@xxxSLITxxx I don't care about trophy income i was just talking about how much Arsenal had spent and people expecting them to compete and win things.The amount of people who say the same thing as you about why they supported Utd is funny.Why are they they the most supported club in England then? wonder why. You seem to forgot about how much Arsenal have made from sales of Toure,Nasri,Adebayor,Fabregas,­Clichy etc.When arsenal were spending big on Pires,Wiltord,Henry etc they were competing well.

[xxxSLITxxx]

@jackmilo89 yeah, but now they have board members more interested in money than success. members who seemingly expect loyal supporters to fork out what is by far the largest season ticket prices in the UK and get nothing in return. you don't even play attractive football anymore. as for sales profits, who cares. if i want to watch a good business perform i'll read the financial times not the arsenal match day program. my point is arsenal have gone from football club to a business, which is sad.

[jackmilo89]

@xxxSLITxxx I agree that they have but also you can say they run the club well and want to make a profit which is understandable instead of chucking money at everything.I agree with your point about the fans though they pay high ticket prices for what? for them to make a profit and for the club not to win anything? 7 years is a long time for Arsenal.I think they cant wait for FFP to come in.

[xxxSLITxxx]

@jackmilo89 yeah, stability is important is good no doubt. but football clubs are supposed to win silverware. when they make money and get the trophies then i'll agree that they are a well run club. you need both to be 'well run' in my book.

[ronald010ify]

@seyarullah Arsenal are so awesome. Too bad they get anally phucked everytime we play them.

[seyarullah]

im pretty sure van persie, walcott, song, wilshere would walk in to man united's first team.

especially song and wilshere. probably better than any top two midfielders united have. paul merson really is a retard and gary neville well, he really is a joke

[ronald010ify]

@seyarullah Lol'd at walcott. He wouldn't even make the reserves. Stop being a deluded fuk

[seyarullah]

@ronald010ify apart from maybe walcott. rvp, sagna, szcezsny, wilshere, song and vermaelen would all walk into man utd's starting XI if you would like me to explain to u I gladly will you stupid fuck

[emirates1994]

@ronald010ify walcott wouldn't make man united's reserves ? & you're calling someone else deluded ? haha don't make me laugh , nani , valencia are woeful & young is overrated. Also your grammar needs improvement also "Lol'd" & "fuk" go back to school you fucking dick.

[Xenos117]

Im sorry but from the moment gary neville opened his mouth I could not take anything he said seriously.

[BlueyBox]

This argument is pointless, Manchester United are a good team. But why come here and come on give it the ol' Barry McGuigan when you got humbled by Manchester City... AT YOUR OWN PLACE. You can't compare two teams like Arsenal and Manchester United after 11 games. To be honest both the teams are the weakest they have been for a very long time so I think we should just see what happens at the end of the season... and what happens at the Emirates.

[Mister92lala]

@BlueyBox i agree, gervinho has a big forehead

[Rsunited90]

@BlueyBox Yh sure thats why were joint top with injury welldone dick

[84redfan]

i 4got that all the arsenal players were so much better than united players thats why arsenal havent won ANYTHING for years and they never won the european cup and they arent even the top side in london they even made up their own competition the emirates cup and they cant even win that lol but yeah they are such a better side than united lol lol lol

[xChrisGrizz]

@84redfan LOL 6-1...nuff said

[United2o11]

Who are these Woolwich kidding? Sagna over Rafael? Injury-prone Vermaelan over Rio? LOL only Persie would get anywhere near our team, if Chicho or Berbatov ain't injured.

[realmofrunescape]

@United2o11 Injury-prone vermaelen, what does that make Rio (should be retired) Ferdinand, Van Persie scored nearly as many goals as berbatov did in half a season, and comparing Sagna, the right back people were calling one of the best in the world after his first season? Hmm more like who are you mancs kidding

[United2o11]

@realmofrunescape "Were" calling him. Now he's average!

[goonerforlife94]

szczesny is absolutely better than de gea. sagna is better than rafeal or phil hones as a right back. vermaelen is better than ferdinand. song and wilshere are better than anderson and cleverly. i dont know what this guy is smoking

[SGTcrackey666]

@goonerforlife94 very true and Rooney is very overated RVP fit would ripe the floor with him.

[GBDazzler]

@goonerforlife94 No chance sagna is better than rafael or vermaelan is better than ferdinand arsenals defence is absolute dogshit and has been since the days of adams, keown, winterburn then big sol, wilshere is better than anderson, anderson is shit should have slung him for diarra this summer, he's better than cleverly at the moment but cleverly has only just started this season and looks promising, across the board however arsenal have gone shit from what they were.

[goonerforlife94]

@GBDazzler mate sagna has been in the premier league team of the year for the last 2 years. best right back in the league. do you even watch any arsenal games?

[POLChelseaFC]

Well let's be honest...

Robin Van Persie, Jack Wilshere and hmmmm Vermaelen would get a game for Man United

RVP is better than Chicharito

Jack Wilshere is well... come on he is by far better than Anderson, Carrick and Cleverly but not better than Darren Fletcher.

Vermalean is better than Rio and Jones + Smalling but Jones and Smalling are young and could hopefully for Englands sake evolve into better players than him.

[84redfan]

arsenal what a joke wilshere what a waste of a strip vermaelen haha would make a better corner flag than a defender SAGNA anouther joke i could go on all day about that arsenal shower of shit but they arent worth it never heard of van hire or van purse or whatever but i will finish with ...........................8-2­,8-2,82,utd orever

[chelseafc4evercfc]

@84redfan wilshere is far better than anderson, carrick and cleverly god knows why you think his a joke, vermaelen is better than smalling, evans and ferdinand, sanya is far better than rafael. there are some arsenal players that would walk into the united side you just clearly cant see it. and saying you've never heard of van persie just shows how little you know van persie is better than berbatov, owen, hernandez, nani and is on par with rooney. his only problem is his too injury prone.

[84redfan]

@chelseafc4evercfc ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ok if you say so van persie only good player and he isnt good enuf to play for a decent side thats why hes at arsenal

[chelseafc4evercfc]

@84redfan haha van persie aint good enough to play for a decent side have you seen the number of goals his scored this season? the only reason this dont happen every season is cause his too injury prone and doesnt play enough. Also szczesny is far better than de gea i think thats obvious and wilshere is better than any of your centre midfielders, carrick and anderson are useless, you miss scholes too much, flector is half decent.

[goonerforlife94]

@84redfan you still haven't heard of Robin van persie? show how much you know about football maate.

[JProduction1000]

@84redfan Your the most delusional football fan. Van Persie should've been nominated for B'llondor instead overrated Rooney gets nominated, Why? For scoring one bicycle kick and I don't even understand why he makes the FIFA team of the year. Van Persie would make the Barcelona team his quality and his better than overrated Rooney. Everyone knows Van Persie is a world class player. You are retarded. I'm a Liverpool fan not Arsenal.

[WhackARat]

@JProduction1000 Rooney wasnt nominated for Ballon D'Or. Mario Gomez should of been TOTY

[JProduction1000]

@WhackARat Well he shouldn't deserve Fifa XI. It should've been either Van Persie, Suarez, Cavani or Gomez

[mesaone100]

that dude needs to get off man utd's dick... every video ive seen of him he just craps on how good they are, im not from england and honestly dont know who he is but seriously is he a fan or part of the man utd club? either that or hes trying to arse kiss his way in.

[bedoigi]

Vermalens better than Ferdinand who's way past it, wilshere would fuck cleverley, Sagan would piss on whatever RB utd have RVP best striker in the prem, sczeczney waaaasy better than fucking de gea and song pisses on anderson

[xelbaga1987]

i've never considered arsenal as a big club..to me they are like lazio..ajax ..valencia..type of ordinary clubs ..lol..the goons..a goon but multiplied

[PXR05]

@xelbaga1987

Never considered Arsenal a big club? 3rd richest club in the world....13 league titles. Either you`re being ironic, or you don`t know very much about football. The latter, I think.

[xelbaga1987]

@PXR05 lol..what kind of a big club never won the CL ?..what kind of a big club one of its players said that he wants to leave it for a big club !!..& other to win serious trophies !! a bunch of fucking young rich half juvenile punks playing football is not what a big club is all about

[St3v3z]

Vermalean wouldnt get into Uniteds team but Walcott would? LOL! If Verms was at United it would 100% be Vermalean - Vidic CB.

[OfficialFlashKid]

I would 8-2 to be an arsenal fan

[gunner4lyfe]

Evans is a joke I dont know any United fans that want him in the team....and Rio's performances against Basle and Stoke shows that he is waaay past it...and ur telling me that vermaelen woulden't get ahead of these clowns...oh and u can throw Smalling in there aswell..

[gunner4lyfe]

vermaelen would get into United's team ahead of Evans, Sagna ahead of Smalling/Fabio/Raphael, Van Persie would get in ahead of the goal-poacher chicarito, Wilshere would get in ahead of Cleverly...and so on

[Fondrom]

@gunner4lyfe

Agree on wilshere, not on van persie considering van persie is injured 80% of the season.

and so is vermealen, dont compare verm with fabio & rapha, rapheal and fabio are RB's and LB's, very attacking.

Smalling is only 19. he still has potential to release and can only get better. same thing for fabio & rafeal. Evra shits on sagna though lmao.

Wilshere will never get over park ji sung, ashley young, giggs, fletcher so thankyou for not mentioning them

[realtalk293]

@gunner4lyfe absolute nonsense. and you say goal poacher like it's a bad thing. goal poachers are more well known for their close range finishes. They are generally good at poaching goals due to their excellent off the ball movement; this allows them to lose defenders and gain space to shoot. and no sagna wouldn't get ahead of smalling, and no wilshire wouldn't get ahead of cleverly, bitter gunner fan. these pundits know what they are talking about

[gunner4lyfe]

@realtalk293 ....where was Chicarito when u were playing Barca?....the boy has no link up play he just stands at the shoulder of defenders waiting for any through balls he can run on to I am not saying this is bad but unless u are all out attacking teams Chica wont be useful he will be anonymous like he was against Barca...u cant compare a goal-poacher with an all round centre forward like RVP or Rooney...Chica doesn't fall into this category he is cut from the some cloth as Pedro and Bent!!!!

[realtalk293]

@gunner4lyfe that was chicas first season with manchester united, in which he done very well, the guy will still learn. and typical bring up the old barca argument. and yes you can or didnt see the amount of important goals he gave for manchester united?? last season? 22 goals he scored for Manchester united last season? bent who is much more experienced got 12 last season. yes javier wont get past 5 players and score but what he did do was help Manchester united to the title with 22 goals.

[realtalk293]

@gunner4lyfe goal poacher?? no i don't think so mate. he is a top player, so stop being so bitter and just accept defeaet, how are you even still finding the voice to try and argue when your team got beaten 8-2. that confuses me, because results show you couldn't be more wrong, they're different ways of playing football, as long as it's affective, and 22 goals last season by Hernandez was very effective, and won Manchester united the title. u can't score 22 lucky goals, he knows what he's doing

[gunner4lyfe]

@realtalk293 ...I didn't say he doesn't know what he is doing..that would be ignorant his movement is awesome when I say he is similar to Bent of course he is better than him in that he is faster and more clinical ..but everything else they are the same they both have no link up play and stand at the shoulder of defenders ready to make a run in behind them...u cant call him an all round striker yet he is not the same as RVP,Villa,Rooney ...he is game is more like Bent,Pedro etc

[gunner4lyfe]

@realtalk293 ..again I did not say his goals are accidental dont put words in my mouth..and being a goal-poacher is not a negative term so stop getting offended

[realtalk293]

@gunner4lyfe only players arsenal had that would have made 1st team manchester united place are nasri and fabregas. vamalen wouldn't get ahead of anyone, vidic ferdinand, evans, smalling, jones and so on. i couldn't see him replacing any of them in the 1st team tbh

[tech4156]

get rid of the greedy board at arsenal and make usmanov and david dein take charge.

[italylover092]

@stealthiscool you do...if you're born a red you'll die a red...same with every club in the world!!

[19Wylds95]

Wilshere could stroll into that United team ahead of Anderson and Cleverly. I agree though Arsenal are very far behind all he top teams at the moment, they won't get in the top four never mind muster a title challenge. Top four in no particular order: Man city, man u, liverpool, chelsea. Arsenal and tottenham will scramble over 5th and 6th. Aston Villa, Stoke and Sunderland will get 7th, 8th and 9th in any order really.

[Fondrom]

@19Wylds95

No he cant LOL.

Wilshere will never troll past anderson, maybe cleverly.. wilshere will never troll past fletcher, giggs, park, nani, ashley young, valencia so you can suck your own tits,

[19Wylds95]

@Fondrom i'm not a fan of either clubs and i can tell you for a fact that Wilshere could easily get in that United team ahead of Cleverly and Anderson. I didn't say anything about all the players you just listed, fool.

[MrThisukboi]

@Fondrom cleverly is better than both park nand anderson. i love park but hes only got a great engine... anderson has 1 good game in 10

[gunnerwizard]

ssagna better than all you rb put together wtf vermaelen are you mad he could walk into any team wilshere just 19 and he would walk into barcelona let alone man u sczesney better than de gayer song better than anderson van persie like i need to say any thing about him ramsey would piss on clevely or what ever his name is just cos him english all the hype on hiim

[mma10101]

@IMnineonetwo vermalen is better than most of them...

[usuckman1000]

only wilshere will get in the team mate

[IMnineonetwo]

@usuckman1000 wilshere? the most overrated player in the premier league all because his english

[usuckman1000]

@IMnineonetwo  umm maybe but his work rate is gud n hes gud at passing so i won't b surprised to c him along side cleverly or ando ....... but yea i agree he is a lil over rated

[Beowulf1477]

@IMnineonetwo Wilshere is a god compared to Andseron etc. Wait till your boys can stand up against the likes of Xavi and Iniesta and do anywhere near as well as he did. He's fantastic, and only a person who doesn't watch him week in week out could say otherwise. His dribbling is top notch, good tackler, good passing, good speed, strong, good vision, not afraid to shoot (although he rarely pushes himself right up close enough to shoot)

It's fine if you don't agree because he is fantastic