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  • THE FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS AWAITS THOSE WHO WILL RESIST THE ILLUMINATI GOVERNMENT!!! IT NOW ALL DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL US SOLDIER IF HE WOULD OBEY HIS OWN GOVERNMENT. BLOODSHED CAN BE AVOIDED IF HE DOES NOT OBEY.

  • Nice warning.... 2012 now and.... what? 

  • first black precedent and this is what we get.

  • @Warriormpw This all started way before Obama and if you think color has anything to do with it your a bigger fool then most tards out there..This plan has been in the works for yrs and yrs its just now were at the end of the plan were millions die unless a miracle happens

  • OLD Video How many Repubs are UNEMPLOYED now?

  • @MzProgressive you retard both are one and the same fool

  • Well executed Socialism is the BEST form of government. Period. Unless of course you want bow down to privately owned corporations for the rest of your life.

  • @bluezone3 Go ahead and give government more power. Lets see what happens.

    Instead of bowing down to corporations that we can regulate and only have power over their business, we would be bowing down to that AND the people with the power to tax us, detain us, and KILL us. Give me liberty, or give me DEATH!

  • @SupurNinja Your arguments are very flawed

    Pure Capitalism, by definition, requires no government intervention in business, therefore corporations are not regulated. Socialism, by definition (is democratic and...), redistrubutes money more equally/regulates business. It allows people to form unions so that in essence, you don't have to bow down to corporations OR the government (last time i checked, non-trivial governments don't have the power to detain and kill their people).

  • @bluezone3 You make it sound as if true capitalism can only exist in an anarchist society. Also, corporations are actually more regulated devoid of government interference. People vote with thier money. Don't like what a business is doing? Don't shop there. All government is is a tool the elite in society use to enforce various mandates on the people. Socialism is just a tool to redistribute wealth, but not from the rich to the poor, but from the middle class to the rich.

  • @bluezone3 Trusting any government with more power is extreamly naive. Absolute power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Also- WTF are you talking about? Of COURSE governments detain and kill people. Try not paying your taxes and see what happens to you. Not to mention congress just passed the NDAA. If you want to see what it's like living in a socialist society join the military and see how much you like the government controlling every facet of your life.

  • THE PRESIDENT CAN RECIND EVERYTHING THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT HAS DONE DURING HIS TERM COMPLETELY.

  • Obama needs to be impeached to slow down the federal reserve, there is enough evidence by the way. Ron Paul has the fed's on the run, they are moving quicker now. We don't have time to wait for an election. Now before we get Ron Paul haters at me, remember he will have to power to get the troops home, he will need help to fully edit the feds, and to rid us of the IRS and CIA which believe they are about the law. Give Liberty or give me death.

  • 2setufree posted this video, but I don't know if it's his.

    WHY AREN'T THERE AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF REPUBLICAN GLOBALISTS IN THIS VIDEO?

    This is slanted by a narrow minded person with good video production talent and money. It will not save you or help your cause unless they "COME FOR" their own Republican globalists.

    Other than that, this is a weak final warning "message" to anyone.

    Globalism has failed. Just look at the US and Europe. Next phase: you'll have to fight to make sure it is dead.

  • It does not need to be violent, get off your ass and vote these R-TARDS out of office. Stop voting D or R. Use your intelligence. Resistance is not futile , it is our DUTY to save our country from these Socialist Bleeding heart liberals.

  • @madmankitchen You have no spine, no balls, and obviously are so gay you cold suck a golf ball out of a garden hose. You can say it behind a computer but you have no dick to say out to everybody.

  • Its 2011, still nothing.

  • my family has already stocked weapons and ammo. Prepare for war.

  • @beliefstoppers Prepare for war with who? Your fellow americans? Or with your army of criminals, the same army that murders hundreds of thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan? Who will u make war with?

  • @madmankitchen "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light an transient causes.... But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government and to provide new Guards for their future security." - The Declaration of Independence

    This shall be our rallying cry, only as a final and last result.

  • @Campioni1092 well said my friend.

  • Funny how most of that money went into our secret weapons programs. How do you think we got that Stealth Blackhawk? For all we know, Reagan's Star Wars system is circling the planet right now.

  • I hope you people realize that the people behind the NWO want you to rebel!! Their plans are set now and they are waiting now for people to revolt so they can unleash HELL. All part of their plan. You research this enough you will see. Turn to Jesus people!

  • lol the new American revolution is recruiting on fucking you tube HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @madmankitchen Name one? France is socialist, China is Communism, name one country half as free as American. Thats right, fuck you, you limp dick shit, who's pussy? you hiding behind a computer screen!

  • @cAmericanPatriot Yes, he is a coward. I cant even see his page, he must have got scared and closed it down. LOL What the hell are all of these foreigners doing on an American Topic anyway. Must be so pissed their countries suck that they want to run their mouths on here to feel better. Great Comment Brother.

  • @itubenowplease Watch the video "The Fourth World War" It hasn't really been about so called liberals/conservatives or Republicans/Democrats any longer. They are the same thing now. We live in a Corporatocracy in which corporations buy off the political system & make policy to benefit their business interests. For ex. US immigration policy is controlled by corporations who flood the market with blue & white collar workers from around the world. These wars are also corporate policy.

  • this isent obamas fault president clinton once said in one of his interviews that there are to seperate governments and the other one he had no control over. the president is a poster child. like ronald regan a once movie star that everybody recognized

  • i didnt vote for that puppet i didnt vote for him or maccain i voted for ron paul sinse the beginning and i feel sorry for the ones who believed obama's hope garbage other than voted voting is something to just ease our mind we really have no control who becomes president it up to the bilderburg group

  • I just have to say, you are all crazy to be organizing this stuff on youtube.

  • Wait my brothers. We must not be so quick to act. 

  • Nov 2010???

    what did you do, of your revolution?????

    vote for the other scum bags , thugs .

  • Haha yea very well put. They're certainly treading on thin ice with us. Apparently they WANT to learn the hard way

  • I hope they don't take this lightly because we

    meant it!

  • @bsman97 That's the problem, you are looking at it from a "Marxist theory" Pov. I wasn't commenting on one leading to another. I was saying that whoever made this video clearly doesn't know that Socialism is not Communism. I can argue that solid leads to liquid and dark leads to light but that doesn't make them the same.

  • this video sucks because ok we vote the GOP out in 2006 & 2008 so now we hate the democrats so what should we do??? oh i know! vote the GOP back in power!! then when they suck and fox news cant convince enough ppl that its socialist liberals fault then we will vote Dems back into power. does any1 see how stupid this sounds? we need 2 abandon the 2party system and vote REAL pple into office. drs, teachers, firemen, construction workers, min. wage workers. the rich left or right dont care about us

  • This video is indeed most powerful video EVER I SEE! LONG LIVE REVOLUTION END GOVERNMENT AND FED!!!!

  • Hang those goddamn corrupt bastards FOR GOOD!

  • Does anyone know the name of this song. I like it, it really gets my adrenaline pumped up and makes me ready for a fight. I'd like to not have to come to this video every time to get ready before a fight, so if anyone knows the name id love to know so i can have it right on my itunes.

  • 229 morons got goose bumps and hard-ons after watching this video. It takes time to clean up 8 years of fecal matter which George Bush and his comrades dumped on us.

  • to think we're a socialist country is an oxy moron.

    im waiting for the real Socialist Republic of America! with REAL socialism!

    not this elitist plutocracy!

  • Socialism is not communism Dude. Learn the difference.

  • Fuckin retard. Did any else notice he said "socialism" but flashes a communist flag image? Socialism is bit co

  • I never supported Obama,or Pelsoi, or any of them. I cant beleive how many people fell for their crap. If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.

  • all there needs to be is a spark......

  • He might be a real patriot, but who really wins here? he loses his job for being a traitor and the united states goes on. You people out there don't get it, the democracy of this nation died already. You are living in Democratic socialism. You are maybe 2 years away from an insurgency, yet you will remain blind to that day because the power that be have absolute control over everything you see hear and smell. You people will walk blinded for 2 years into your destruction from within.

  • Wow...cute video! How come nobody made this when George Bush was in office?

  • political stupidity at it's finest

  • well, that didn't happen. When are one of you fuckers gonna take a shot at this revolution thing? Didn't take much in egypt.

  • @sethzky77 There is not enought REAL Americans out there to have a Revolution, because most Americans are all fuckin Liberal bastards... and when they come to realize their mistake they will join the Revolution...

    So get ready for the 2nd Revolution people! make your signs! WE CAN DO IT!

  • @jamesmanortiz Your probably right but did you know that only 1 out of 3 were willing to fight during the first revolution, 1 of 3 were loyalist, and 1 of 3 supported the cause but did not partake in the revolution. Check out the 3 percenter patch American Soldiers are wearing. Google search. 1 of 3 if we could muster that many were in good shape. Until then stock up. Good luck my friend.

  • @VelociRaptor93 One out of 3 was a Loyalist? Since all the leading figures in the Revolution were British subjects, and most(all those who held office or rank in the colonies)had taken an oath to the crown how can they be seen as anything other that treasonous? The colonies were England--totally linked as much as California is to Washington today. So what would your view be of an armed insurgency in California supported by just a third of Californians? With growing hispanic anger you may get it!

  • this is the kind of stuff that gets right-winger to kill ppl.

  • @FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 fuck you go watch your Michele moore shit tapes

  • @bordersoldier whose michele moore? and i'm not into scating

  • ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz­zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz­zzzzzzzz.....boring video.

  • RISE

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  • It was not but one person who made tyranny, but the slew of people around the US, and you not need but look into a mirror to find that person

  • careful my brothers who we talk to on hear big brother is everywhere

  • US, the country where politics is a joke

  • The revolution MUST be peaceful otherwise there is no chance. That's what they want. People to loose their cool, who are at the end of their rope so they can demonize them on the "NEWS". I wonder if those trying to recruit "warriors" are "THE MAN" trying to entrap people so they can have their little soundbite on the "NEWS". You have to be desperate (euphemism) to join a group without knowing who they are. Look at the malitia group that was raided by the FBI not long ago. Respect.

  • @Breal191 Fascist pigs can't demonize shit if they're lying dead on the pavement...

  • Are the leftist liberals the only ones selling our country to the highest bidder?

  • @Breal191 lol, I guess the 2 Bush presidents were good examples? Dem and Rep are two wings on the same decrepit bird. "They" want us to keep fighting, finger pointing and to remain divided. We need to shoot down the whole nasty bird, remove the bankers and blood sucking leaches from power and I do think it will require force, and it better be soon because they can clearly see the people are pissed off and tired of it.

  • Were coming motherfuckers !!!!!! All real Americans jump on the train all u anti Americans will get ran over !!!!!

  • What I Find funny NO one talked about the many Mitallys in Bush's Days in office growing.

  • No it's dumb fucks like you who support the asses that run our country.

  • It's not OBAMA you misguided dumb fucks!

  • @67swany67 It's true that Obama just so happens to be the president while all this happens. it's not directly his fault, even though he's perpetuating the problem. The problem is MUCH bigger than one president, or one party, or even an entire generation (perhaps several generations). We have just lost touch with individual morality, economic freedom, and the value of reason. We are in a revolution. This is history!

  • Brilliant video.

  • how in the hell can i do soemthing as 1 person with a family. I hear all this stuff froim glen beck and others like jessy ventura and i wonder what can i do.

  • @25jamey

    There is an underground resistance movement forming right now. We need warriors.

    This group is based soley on ACTION!

    We're preparing for a serious show of force.

    Can you help us recruit?

  • @unitedwestand1775 sound like a bunch of internet geeks to me take on to the streets not youtube

  • @unitedwestand1775 Burger-fed overweight americans couldnt even go toe to toe with the Vietcong who fought a war on bowls of rice and home made sandals. You think a bunch of guys with pick up trucks and an 8th grade education are a match for a trained army, even and American one? And by the way, stop referring to the "minutemen" and Militias in the American Revolution. They were largely useless and ran away or just sloped off. Go and read some orignal sources; its all there.

  • @CobinRain THE Militias and Minutemen may have been useless against the well trained English, However in Guerrilla warfare they sure kept LORD CORNWALLCE Occupied in the South while Gen. Washington Built a force that would later defeat the English. Lets NOT forget as pathetic as our resistance was we won. You had more modern weapons and funding. AS FOR YOU COMMENT EVEN AN AMERICAN ONE. I hope you are not suggesting England is superior to the USA. We kept you supplied until we helped in WW2

  • @VelociRaptor93 Yeah, but remember that some of our big business supplied the Nazis as well. The global elite helped both sides of the war and profited from it.

  • part of the original comment: We gave weapons under the lend lease act to supply you against the GERMANS who would have defeated YOU. Then we turned defeat INTO VICTORY during WW2. I like England as it has been a long assisting Ally but your statements are insulting. By the way Vietcong could not defeat us with there most massive attack TET. We should have invaded the north and would have WON. Dont forget If England is superior as you say...WHY DID IT LOSE ALL OF ITS COLONIES 1by1?

  • @VelociRaptor93 Try to read a little. The war started in 1939. What you never hear about now is there was huge debate in the US against helping Britain. Many leading Americans were openly pro-Nazi--including JFKs father . In Congress too there were hundreds of pro-german votes and voices.Only the hated liberals supported aiding Britain. The "lend lease" you refer to means the UK had to PAY for what the US supplied.

    And America only joined the war when Hitler declared war on you in Dec 1941.

  • @CobinRain I agree the USA did not want to help but the president did. I agree that Pearl Harbor was the excuse used to help England. The Lend Lease act also was part of payment that was largely overlooked as few nations ever pay back the debt. IT IS however the USA that will default on its debt, it is only the matter of time.  As far as Liberals...dont knowhow they are in ENGLAND but the democrat party of the 1940s are hardly comparable to today. They suck now, I changed from DEM to REP

  • @CobinRain Having said the last statement I think we need a 3rd pary as the two DEM and REP are corrupted beyond repair. The only reason I am currently a REP is because if I have to spend in my limits so should my GOVERNMENT.The Rep are the only ones working to cut spending at this point. Until the 3rd party is strong enough to win its the only choice As far as England and its colonies. It was not soley by choice they released their colonies all over the world.expense maintaining them&War

  • @VelociRaptor93 Good luck with the 3rd party thing: it opens the door to coalition government whereby you get the representitives of say, 2/3 s of the electorate forming the government rather than the 51% you have now and government by consent of MOST Americans.This system is normal throughout the safe sane stable and prosperous social democracies of western Europe . It would also curb the power of the president who now enjoys more power over Americans than george III could have dreamed of!

  • @VelociRaptor93 -- Oh, come on! The "British" don't care. It's even bigger than before as the head of the commonwealth. Their 1% are "sitting pretty" like the US 1%. The other 99% are as poor as the other 99% of Americans! By the same people! But Americans were warned of this by those famous founders. That banks and corporations were more dangerous to liberty than standing armies. That if they gained control of government, one day their children would wake up homeless on their own continent.

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  • @VelociRaptor93 "Why did (theUK) lose all of its colonies 1 by 1?" A growing awareness from the beginning of the 20th century that Imperialism was wrong. Why should one nation rule over another--even in the indirect puppet regime way the British ran, say, Ghana. Then there was the question of cost. Britain maintained almost 1000 bases in other peoples countries. People at home grew angry at the cost, the little wars & there was civil unrest at home

    Velo--this is happening now to the US

  • @25jamey WHEN THE TIME COMES JUST BE NON VIOLENT & BE UNCOOPERATIVE STAND YOUR GROUND WITH THAT NO VIOLENCE & NO COOPERATIVENESS. NO VIOLENCE. WHEN YOU STRIKE THEY ARE THE LAW WHEN THEY STRIKE YOU THEY ARE THE VANDALS. IT'S NOT A LOT BUT, IT IS POWERFUL ENOUGH.WHEN IT IS USED BY THOUSANDS OR MILLIONS NOTHING CAN BREAK IT (EXCEPT GOD) IT CAN MOVE NATIONS. TAKE CARE & LET'S HOPE TOGETHER THAT IT DOESN'T COME TO THAT.PEACE BROTHER

  • Now is the time for freedom. Action MUST be taken against this tyrannical government. Defectionem!

  • Planetary Mutualism! Look to the plants and animals...they are our allies. Send Love to the Universe! Share!

  • nothing happened!!!! LOL

  • the government is held hostage by a group of people you rarely ever see in the news. The global corporate and banking elite run the world now. It took only 200 years to do fulfill the master plan of old man rothschild.

  • LADIES AND GENTALMEN OF AMERICA, OUR TRUST AND FAITH IN THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN DESTROYED AND OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY HAS COME TO SEE THE GOVERNMENT FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS! A SELF SERVING, ARROGANT, FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT THAT IT SHOWS US AS! IT HAS TAKEN AWAY OUR RIGHT TO SAY WHAT THE HELL WE WANT TO SAY! IT HAS TAKEN OUR HOMES FROM US! I SAY THAT WE TAKE BACK WHAT WAS TAKEN! OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS THAT GOD GAVE US THE DAY WE ARE BORN! SO WHO IS WITH ME! COMRADES!

  • @marine5289 do not forget about choco crumbs. they stole that too and they were soo yummy. :)

  • @marine5289 Will the military back us up? Because we are so close to the end I can feel it. I think everyone feels it.

  • @marine5289 what can i do as a family me my two young kids and girlfriend. i hear all this talk but i dont see the action. what can i do

  • @marine5289 IT HAS TAKEN AWAY OUR RIGHT TO SAY WHAT THE HELL WE WANT TO SAY! WHO HAS TAKEN WHAT YOU WROTE AWAY I READ IT IT'S STILL THERE WTF?

  • @NotaSheople UR right. 

  • Nobody understand what these Fucks are doing to us. If our country wasn't so dumbed down we would be able to think for ourselves and we would know the real truth the don't wany us to know.

    Everyone needs to rise take responsibility for Yourself and start paying attention to whats going on and do something about it.

  • Hey Mr Patriot. For someone who loves individual liberty, you sure use words like 'we' and 'us' a lot. Why dont you just use the words 'I' and 'me' ? Who voted you in to speak for the people? You sound more like Lenin or Hitler than Jefferson.

  • go on google and type "is a revolu ..." ... and holler if what you see means something to you.

  • 22 people want there dick felt up when boarding an airplane. 22 people want marshell law.

  • Anyone know what the music is for this video. Let me know thanks.

  • you forgot to mention the 2 wars the former president started and also made plummet your economy. Dont blame the current president who's trying to fix things.

  • @lleuwelynn

    I couldn't agree more. I think Obama realized on Nov.3rd-- when he gave a speech and looked depressed as hell-- that this country is so fucked up. I think that part of the problem is that we have too many people in office-- The white house as a whole. I think it is about time that we shed those fuckers jobs and give them a little slice of our life that they helped ruin.

    I mean really, is it necessary that we have that many people?

  • @lleuwelynn He's not trying to fix anything. He doesn't give a damn about our country. He's violating the constitution by shoving healthcare down our throats that we're going to be forced to buy. The government can't force you to buy ANYTHING. we MADE the government, and we can TAKE IT OUT. THEY work for us, not the other way around. We don't even know if Obama is a citizen because he sealed his birth certificate in the first executive order he ever made!

  • @therockstar17 obama's biggest problem is that he actually does care about the people in his country. unlike your previous idiot in charge who sent you guys off in 2 meaningless wars. And the ppl who vote against health dont. You guys just like to sit on your money and dont care a thing about anybody else.

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  • Why do you people always bring up Bush and the wars? The wars and whatever Bush did have absolutely NOTHING to do with what I'm talking about. Bush isn't the president anymore, Obama is. If you want to have a debate please talk about what's relevant. It sounds like you don't live in the United States so don't tell me he cares about us. Obama has passed laws that PLAINLY go against our Constitution, (Government healthcare) and FYI there are serious people who intend to defend it

  • @therockstar17 they got directly to do with your current situation... or dont you think that waging those wars wouldnt have a backlash on your economy? every other civilised country has got some form of governmental health care providing form that is accessable for all of its citizens, not just for the rich. why not the us? for a guy that is calling himself a responsible freethinker, you consider the constitution way too much as your bible. newsflash: its outdated.

  • @lleuwelynn The founding fathers of this country were SMART men and wrote the constitution to preserve our freedoms as PEOPLE. They learned from history that other civilizations fell without these. Rome, etc. The day we say our RIGHTS are outdated, that is the day freedom and liberty will be lost. You, sir, are a brainwashed idiot. The constitution OUTDATED? Wow. If that's the way you think...wow...just, wow. Hand over human rights on a silver platter, why don't you.

  • @therockstar17 it doesnt mean that if by any chance your founders were at the start of a new republic, that they were exactly the smartest men. they just were the men in charge, nothing more. besides, you only talk about rights and not about responsibilities. You say that you govern the government. well good, but that also means you got to share its repsonsibilities. and that means also helping to take care of ALL of its citizens.

  • @lleuwelynn I didn't say they were the smartest men. I said they were smart. You can't give up rights for responsibilities. It's not the responsibility of our government to hold our hands, be our parents, and "take care of" everyone. People need to learn how to take care of themselves. Healthcare should be left to the private sector unless the government can offer affordable care in addition to and OPTIONALLY if you want it.

  • @therockstar17 it is optionally. you can still pick whatever coverage you want.

  • @lleuwelynn Um, why do you insist on lying to me to something I read? It is NOT optional. You may be able to pick amount of coverage, but it is a REQUIREMENT. Can you grasp the concept of what I am saying?? They MAKE you buy it!

  • @lleuwelynn No, again I say NO they don't. I'm talking about socialist and marxist people in the government trying to force us that route. Marxism: 1) nationalize major sectors of economy = bailouts, 2) redistribute wealth = welfare 3) discredit opposition = homeland security sent a memorandum accusing right-wing christians, pro-life groups, 2nd amendment groups, and returning veterans as enemies. SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK WITH FREEDOM i.e. Hitler, Stalin, Mussollini, Vietnam, Korea, ETC ETC

  • @therockstar17 you paste the word "socialism" on just about anything you dont like do you?1) bailouts are not takeovers. 2) a good father wants all of his kids to live, also the crippled ones. 3) have you seen the fireworks going on on both sides of this conflict? be honest for once lol. ppl have been discrediting each other so bad you dont even know if its black or white anymore.

    c) you managed to paste "socialism" to names and countries that actually had nothing to do with it....gratz.

  • @lleuwelynn Because we are clearly being pushed towards socialism. 1) yes they were, a bailout increases gov. control over a business 2) The government is NOT our father as I said previously. 3) This was not simple bashing. Homeland security sent a memorandum to law enforcement across the country NAMING right-wing Christians, 2nd Amendment groups, pro-life groups, and returning Veterans as ENEMIES.

  • @therockstar17 1) towards a savior, ppl always owe things. at least those companies now got some room to breathe again and try to start up again. 2) they are the men you elected to be responsible. therefor they take the father role. 3) a similar list was also brought out under the bush administration, only this contained named ppl who were left wing activists, globalists, ppl who dare publically question the war, other religion practionist, and calling them a possible aid to terrorism.

  • I see there is no compromise with you on this. Maybe for you, but in America we do not view the government as our father. the government is supposed to be our servant. and lately they've been very bad in trying to assume the father role, and we're trying to turn it around.

  • @therockstar17 and as a good servant, it's supposed to be there for all, not just for those rich enough.

  • @lleuwelynn wrong answer. our government is here to protect our rights and secure or borders. not to provide food and make sure everyones money that was worked hard for is taken away and "distributed evenly" so everyone has money. It's retarded and it doesn't work. When people have their money taken to be given to someone else, they will stop working because they ask "whats the point? it get's taken away" then everyone is screwed. Socialism and welfare DOESN'T WORK.

  • @therockstar17 again, you misinterpretate. what? everybody equal money? You are seriously thinking it works that way? what, you think in socialist influenced countries, if one guy gets a car all the rest does too? dude we are not talking about luxuary here. we are talking about primal needs. primal needs that only need a small contribution from each citizen to help fix it. Not your entire monthly paycheck. again, stop your confusion with communism.

  • @lleuwelynn Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but poverty can never be fixed. there will ALWAYS be poor people in the world. There was once a pilgrim village who centralized their food to ration it to get through winter. When the people who grew the food realized it was going to people who didn't work, they too stopped working because they asked "what's the point" and they almost all starved. True story. it's not a good idea

  • @therockstar17 Poverty will always be there true. And you just want to help the poor stay poor, that's also a true fact.

  • @lleuwelynn 1) The Nazis were a socialist party. 2) national Socialism had some of the key ideological elements of fascism, Italy was fascist. 3) Russia was communist, the only difference from socialism is that it was military based. 4) korea = communism, 5) vietnam = communism

  • @therockstar17 national socialism is not socialism. And in the end, hitler betrayed every part of socialist ideology. nope wrong, one of the differences is that communism is a totalitarian rule and that there is leadership required. while socialism is just a political direction that asks you to also think about the middle class.

  • @lleuwelynn Um, technicalities. national socialism is just nationalism and socialism merged. The Nazi Party in Germany. The point is it's all about control.

  • @therockstar17 the point is that socialism is not really about control, it is about securing basic needs for all that are your citizens. hitler can never be seen as a socialist since he betrayed all those ideologies.

  • @therockstar17 national socialism is not socialism. And in the end, hitler betrayed every part of socialist ideology. nope wrong, one of the differences is that communism is a totalitarian rule and that there is leadership required. while socialism is just a political direction that asks you to also think about the middle class that doesnt necesseraly requires to be on top of the political scene.

  • @lleuwelynn Learn from history. Government healthcare is just a way to go the socialist route. The free people of American are not going to give up the constitution because idiots like you say its "outdated". The reason we have the constitution: freedom of speech: voice your opinion, freedom of arms: defense against foreign and domestic enemies, INCLUDING corruption in government. freedom of worship, freedom to vote.

  • @therockstar17 also including to go up against malpractises of private insurance companies and having a governmental tool to help with that.

    also including that in your right to vote, you also get the right to vote (as more then 50% of your ppl did) for something you might find unconstitutional by now. If the government is ruled by the people, then so is the constitution. And if its a clear factor that the right to have health care should be embedded in there, then the constitution need change.

  • @lleuwelynn I'm sorry your point made no sense here. That's like saying you have the right to eat so the government has the responsibility to MAKE you eat. That's also like saying you need to amend the constitution for something like food. It just doesn't make sense. We don't need to put that in there, we already have healthcare. The healthcare bill violates the 10th amendment by forcing the states to enforce a federal mandate and REQUIRES people to buy something.

  • @therockstar17 nope the gvt has the responsibility to make sure that there is something to eat for all and not shuv it down your throat. Your current health care isnt accessable for all, that is the biggest problem. I see you have never been down that viscious circle. longterm disease= longterm unemployment= often ends in getting fired= no longer being able to pay doctors' bills=insurance companies raise their bonus malus= no longer able to pay that too= no coverage at all.

  • @lleuwelynn I see there is no compromise with you on this, either. Sorry but WRONG AGAIN, in America, the people feed themselves. It is NOT the government's responsibility to provide food. Welfare is unfair & will never work. I don't go to work to make money to have it taken from me and given away to someone else.(often lazy people) I work to make money for ME. Again, then they should offer a program if they want just for poor and leave private sector health care alone. I have healthcare already

  • @therockstar17 all this writing of yours can be shortened to the centre of your message: FOR ME. And you think that all those that can make use of welfare are just lazy? ok admitted there will always be people that just want to profit from it, but look at the major part lol. You will find very often hard working ppl being struck down and have nothing to fall back on. of course, your way of seeing it is just the survival of the fittest, right?

  • not really. A lot of the people that get welfare are lazy. and how many of them are poor because they use money for drugs. I'm sorry, but Im not being selfish. Its not my responsibility to make sure other people get MY MONEY because they happen to be unfortunate for whatever reason. If I was struggling, I dont expect strangers to just give me their money that they WORKED for because I'm going through hard times. and its not the government's responsibility either. Its charity groups and churches'

  • @therockstar17 hence again, i can see you have never been down that road. You cant speak out of experience.

  • @lleuwelynn I speak out of wisdom. That's the kind of person I am. I don't expect a stranger citizen to hold the responsibility of making sure a percentage of his income automatically be given to me because I have trouble making enough. If he does that, then we're both going to be poor. He should only give me money or help if he has extra and if he wants to.

  • @therockstar17 the tax for the bill increases only for those that have that extra.

  • @lleuwelynn Have you? I personally know someone who was once homeless that now is living just fine in a house with a wife and children and during the time he was homeless did not take ONE dime from anyone. that's a real american. I'm sorry your country is not as man as ours.

  • @therockstar17 did he have the misfortune of having a severe accident or being longterm sick during that period? or else that plan of hard work of his just wouldnt have worked. Im sorry but in my country the real man also care about others.

  • @lleuwelynn No sir, I say to you, because of the way this country was set up, the United States has been the greatest and longest surviving republic on Earth and has enjoyed prosperity, free enterprise, scientific advancement, the strongest military in the world, and just downright FREEDOM among other great things, and we are NOT about to give away our ideals, liberties, and freedoms. No, the constitution is NOT OUTDATED.

  • @therockstar17 actually the 2 longest surviving republics are:

    1) San Marino: started in the year 301 on the date of 3 september

    2) Switzerland: 24 October 1648

    way before June 21, 1788, dont you think? Dont believe it? look it up.

    Prosperity, and the rest you sum up are pretty much the goals of every country of the western hemisphere. the strongest military, ok i give you that. but if that is really something good remains to be debated.

  • @lleuwelynn Well, the United States is the longest surviving Federal Constitutional Republic. The key difference is that the San Marino and Switzerland president or prime minister is chosen by the parliament. In America, the people elect the president by voting, and you don't have to be a member of parliament to run for president.

    Whats your point? shouldnt everyone strive for prosperity, free enterprise and scientific advancement? we want to defend ourself and a good defense is a good offense

  • @therockstar17 every country that exists has a form of a constitution.

    so in the states ppl dont elect a president out of candidats that were pushed forward from their representative political parties? you really dont think that the ppl in switzerland and san marino dont have a direct vote on the presidentship? besides, how many ppl in your country do really vote? In the polls it shows that 87% of your ppl really dont vote at all.

  • @lleuwelynn Yes the candidates come from political parties. Yes I know a lot of people don't vote. You're bringing up more points that don't really matter, all I said was the United States is the longest surviving federal constitutional republic.

  • @therockstar17 the point is:if there are so many ppl that dont vote, then how do you know you are speaking for all of them when talking about this "revolution" blah blah blah?

  • I'm not speaking for all of them, but I am speaking for a lot of them.

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  • @therockstar17 strive for prosperity, free enterprise, scientific advancement: yes, of course. A good defense is also taking care of your basic troops.

  • @lleuwelynn I'm sorry that made no sense? We have the strongest military in the world not the largest. Obviously we take care of our basic troops?

  • @therockstar17 obviously you dont know what a metaphore is.

  • @lleuwelynn And finally, I will end this debate here. I can see that I can't reason with you. I see since you're not an American, you have never lived as free as us. We don't rely on the government to GIVE us everything. we work for it, and make it ourselves. We have been this way for 200 years, it feels good and it has made us a great nation to live in. we're not about to give up that way of life. Thanks for the debate, I'm going to get back to fighting for our non-gov. intrusive freedom.

  • @therockstar17 yes, the only thing you are right about is that I'm not an american. wow. just a click on my profile would have saved you 3 pages of guessing for that. Ive lived just as free as you guys dont make any mistake about it. we also dont rely on a gvt to give for free, as we are accepting our responsibilities to contribute to a better system.

  • @lleuwelynn I knew you weren't American all along because of the way you were talking, I didn't have to look. Well that's great if everyone in your country is nice enough to give their money away to strangers so everyone has money and if your government offers all you need for every aspect of your life, free or not. I don't know about you, but governments get corrupted and I want them controlling as LEAST as possible.

  • @therockstar17 So basically you want to go live on mars, where you can be your own president and also your only citizen at the same time. that way you can control yourself and your president the best of all.

    ps: didnt you say your debate with me was done?

  • @lleuwelynn yeah. these are my last comments. because you have no concept of being free and having a government that just protects rights, secures borders, and serves justice without having to act as "parents" even a parent teaches his child to go out and work for himself, and doesn't not continually support him. Yeah, I just blew your "father" theory out of the water.

  • @therockstar17 I can just say that you have no idea of the concept of "responsibility". And even a parent wants also his child to have a good background and starter to be able to get to work.

  • @therockstar17 socialism also envokes the right for everybody to vote and speak up. where democracy basically was only accessable for ppl of high class, it made it so that all could vote. Actually, when you are talking about freedom of speech and your other selfpreserved liberties, it actually sounds more socialistic then you think.

  • @lleuwelynn I'm not advocating the formation of an entirely democratic country. I just oppose socialism, because its a crappy idea. Socialism is the big lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery. Socialism fails.