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  • 189 people who agreed 2ts for life are coming in 1st every race

  • 4 strokes are better because u don't have to mix oil,they don't blow up like 2 strokes and u have too get a new top end for two strokes. (4strokes is were it's at get with reality). Look at all of the pros they all have 4 strokes

  • @bmxstln Gotta look at the cons too, 4 strokes are heavy, make less power per ci, more expensive too build, more costly and harder to rebuild. Yes 2 strokes blow up, but most guys with basic knowledge of a working engine can rebuild one.

  • @snipekill2445 well this arguement is kind of pointless because we are both just stating facts at this point i will be the bigger person and say you are right ( about some things) Lol you have a good day man :)

  • @snipekill2445 Think of it this way. Say a motor is running at 5000 rpm. With a four stroke you you are only getting 2500 power strokes per minute (one every other stroke) but with a 2 stroke you are getting 5000 power strokes per minute (one every stroke). In very basic terms, that's why you can get roughly the same power out of a two stroke motor half the size of a 4 stroke motor. there for a 2 stroke will always be better

  • @snipekill2445 actually your comment was at the top and i thought i would comment... , and according to the dyno test the 2 stroke has a much wider band of power then a 4 stroke ,In fact given a 4 stroke and a 2 stroke of the same displacement the 2 stroke will blow the 4 stroke out of the water in any competition because the 2 stroke is far more efficient in terms of power per cc of displacement that is why 250 2 strokes and 450 4 strokes are in the same class.

  • @snipekill2445 4 strokes may have more torque but 2 strokes are lighter weight bikes and they have a thing called a powerband that usually will kill any 4 stroke close to it's cc class and i know every engine has a (Powerband) even electric engines but the 2 stroke makes a wider power curve then any other engine in the same cc size so there for 2 strokes have the most hp because of the power -to- weight ratio so to be technical a 2 stroke is faster and always will be

  • I've always wondered, what is better, 2-stroke or 4-stroke? But then I realized, hey. there are more important things, like finding ways to keep our riding areas open, instead of hashing out little school girl shit-faced arguments.

  • i like 2 strokes but they dont fit my riding style 4 strokes

  • @snipekill2445 it depends on, put a cr 150 vs a cr 125. sure, the 150 would drive away in the end, but the 2 stroke 125 would take the beggining

  • @fartsmellsfunny96 no... a 150r is pretty much the same as a 100 2 stroke and it depends on the rider

  • Really why fight about which is better its pointless. A 2 stroke will woop a 4 strokes ass on bottom end then after about a mile or so the 4 stroke will catch up and pass it. That is if your racing like a 125 2 stroke and a 125 4 stroke or a 250 and a 250. You cant pin a 2 atroke wide fucking open for a mile like you can on a 4 stroke so obviously a 4 stroke will outrun a 2 stroke in the long run

  • sound?

  • if you like 2 stroke bikes ride one. if you like four stroke bikes ride one. it really is that simple. what is achieved by this constant youtube war? i personally prefer 2 strokes as my penis fits in the silencer easier, bu thats just me.

  • @cr2501990 i like four stroke because you can fit more than one penis in the silencer, it leaves room for a friend

  • @bshock81 Hahaha

  • in the yamaha tests the 125 2 stroke was faster than 250 4 stroke this year....

  • @oklofobloo the yamaha hasnt been changed in 5 years, and the ive heard the ktm 150 2t is faster than 250fs now

  • @oklofobloo its all the rider not the bike bro

  • yamaha I LOVE.

  • thumbs up man fuck 4 strokes pussey bikes hondas always put yamahas 2 shame

  • @Twomanvice2 yea right other way around buddy honda blowsss

  • when the powerband hits the 125 will fly by the 250f 

  • Guys, its not about engine size versus power. Its about style and personal choice. If u want your 250 4t to be as powerful as your 250 2t, then put a turbo charger on the 4t and it will have same or greater power per cc than the 2t, but as i said, that is not the point. NA, 2t puts out more power than 4t due to obvious reasons, such as firing twice as often as a 4t, so its able to nearly double the power output, which is why they race 250 vs 450 to keep things more balanced and more interesting.

  • yep u got me. i write in capital letters because im gay

    fucking idiot

  • either of them can drive

  • I'll ride red till I'm dead

  • @thatgreggguy I Ride Blue Cause your a Fool, lol JK ;)

  • @defkon99 Nice one. Lol. It's nice to see you showing your opinion without bashing mine.

  • fight

  • Ok this is for all of you bragging about how your 250f's are so much faster than our 125 2 strokes. No shit most people think your bike is better. ITS 125CC bIGGER. iF 250 2 STROKES RACED WITH 250F FOUR STROKES, EVERY PRO WOULD CHOOSE THE 2 STROKE. wHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT A 125 2 STROKE AGAINST A 4 STROKE CLOSE TO IT'S ENGINE SIZE LIKE A 150R. Im just saying 2 STROKES FOR EVER

    *~tHUMBS UP IF YOU AGREE~*

  • @lollers21435 umm actually ,they let the yz 250 in the lights class in 2009 bro and i mean it held its own but it didnt kill anybody on a 250f lol .... you know they are supposed to have twice the power and it definetly didnt look like it ..... and if you put a crf150r against a 125 two stroke in a drag race the 150 can keep up fine and even pulls it on the bottom end keep in mind im talking about the 150 r race bike . ive raced both and won on both an the two stroke is done now man

  • agree 2 strokes for life

  • @lollers21435 you must love big cocks since u wrote that much in caps

  • @lollers21435 Of course a 2T stroke has much more power, but the future is 4T man, they'll be more powerfull

  • @lollers21435 AMA made the rule change a couple years ago.... 250 2 strokes are allowed in the lites class... 250 vs. 250 and everybody is still on the 4 stroke... the 4 stroke made riding faster easier... lap times on both bikes are about the same. I have a crf250 and a cr250... they really arent that different from one another and I am actually running faster lap times on my 4 stroke. THe 2 stroke is a better ride in the woods.

  • @lollers21435 Wow..2 Stroke Fanboy....

  • @Bl0OdYShAdOw 4 joke fuckface...

  • @flamesfan4eva Don't be angry because 2 stroke are going away.

  • @Bl0OdYShAdOw I wont because i will never sell my 2 stroke

  • @Bl0OdYShAdOw There only going away because they pollute the air.  Not because there slow, Dumbass

  • @idpFATTYs When did I ever say they were slow????? If anyone in this conversation is a dumbass it's you fucking idiot. I never said they were slow. I said they are GOING AWAY!

  • @Bl0OdYShAdOw I know that you never said they were slow. But you make it sound like There going away because they suck.

  • @lollers21435 um dude 250 two strokes do race with 250 four strokes in supercross??? and i see alot more ''pro's'' riding four strokes

  • @lollers21435 when i say this most people dont believe me, but they are now starting to make four strokes faster then 2 strokes. The same size cc! It is pretty amazing how far four strokes have come.

  • @lollers21435 Sorry to burst your bubble, but 2 strokes are dying and will continue to die until every company stops making them. It will happen and it's just a matter of time. Truthfully I have NOTHING against 2 strokes. I actually want one and I ride a 4 stroke. Just little 2 stroke fanboys like yourself are fucking annoying and should quit saying shit. You're just a wannabe. Just for the fuck of it I also put this to make myself feel better.

    *~tHUMBS UP IF YOU AGREE~*

  • @Bl0OdYShAdOw 4 stokes are dirt boxes :) End Of Story

  • @lollers21435 obviously you have no idea how a 2-stroke engine works if you think the same displacements should race.

  • @kgkawasaki i think they should race because the displacement avantage given to the expensive 4 stroke is killing motocross

  • @lollers21435 jesus christ i hate ppl like you, what is the difference? dont you like riding? (if you even do ride) ofc 2 strokes will outrun a 4 stroke because 2 strokes piston fires twice as much. -.-

  • @lollers21435 hell ya i have a 94 cr125 with 144 kit and 250 carb it keeps up with the 250s

  • @UNENCUMBERED1 Yeah mine is a 97 and it woops the hell out of my friends 250

  • @lollers21435 braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap 125s best bike ever ive raced both 250 f and the 125s and i think it takes way more ball to ride two stroke and takes more skill

    DO U AGREE WITH ME

  • @lollers21435 hell to the fucking yes 2 strokes are amazing!!!

  • @lollers21435 Look i love 2 strokes and i miss my CR250 but since i have had a 450 nothing comes close and 250 and 450F are very close as the 2 Strokes have power band to keep up with the 4 Strokes, so 80/85 same as 150F, 125 same as 250F etc... so 2 good riders, 1 on a 250 and 1 on a 450f it will be side by side.

  • @lollers21435 I agree man i hate ignorant people who think there 450f can beat any 3 stroke hahahaha lmao hence why the rm yz and cr 25's race with the 450 4 strokes:)

  • its funny that this 2 stroke vs 4 stroke argument still exists...the race scene is being dominated by the 4 stoke and the freestyle guys are still rocking the 2 stroke...both are awesome depends on what kind of riding you do...other than that stfu and ride who cares what kind of motor it has

  • its funny that this 2 stroke vs 4 stroke argument still exists...the race scene is being dominatated by the 4 stoke and the freestyle guys are still rocking the 2 stroke...both are awesome depends on what kind of riding you do...other than that stfu and ride who cares what kind of motor it has

  • iv been rideing many many years i find honda to be the best FOR ME but every ones different. Thers no best bike in the world its the rider that is the deciding factor.

  • @canda1986 i liked my cr alot, but i like my kx just as much, i think the motocross bikes are on on the exact same level!!

  • @canda1986 that was a sweet comment you baby

  • @guitarmaster1234321

    baby ? why am i a baby ?

  • @canda1986 you sound like a noob

  • @guitarmaster1234321 Ok and you come across as a troll

  • @canda1986 and you come across as a nigglet you goon headed watermealon headed retard

  • the best is ktm

  • yamaha is beast

  • i have a cr and would probably get another cr or a yz, i have nothing against the kx's or rm's and they all have their pros and cons... the only brand i hate is polaris...they are the biggest pieces of shit out there

  • Yamaha is best:D

  • rite boi there only 1 way 2 settle this ive been on bike since i was 5  i started with a ktm 65 then a rm 86 and now a cr 125 if u had a ktm youd say a rm a cr and a kx sucked every 1 does it all in the rider ive bet a yz 250 on a cr125 how that?? the rider so just shut up u wannabees

  • @ijjohnson07 sopoosed ta be rm 85

  • @ijjohnson07 Yerr ur rite m8, all these people saying there brand new bike would beat the shit out of this bike, at the end of the day a guy or gal who has been riding for the past 10 20 years would probably kick the shit out of us on any old motoocross bike, it is all down to the riders ability.

  • i have a honda and a yz and i have to say there is no comparison. dont argue unless youve rode both bikes. my yz250 is scary fast

  • @cripw94 agreed, im getting me a yz125 instead of a 250, im not going for 'scary fast' just yet :)

  • @cripw94 yz 250 aint scary fast u just scared

  • 2 strokes may be faster but not more reliable. you never have to rebuild 4 strokes every year. 4 strokes dont work as hard

  • I completely and fully agree with TheLyingBitch. you can't just say "oh yeah honda sucks" or yamaha's suck". neither of them do, they both handle jumps well, the yamaha a little better than the honda but as far as keeping the same, fast, consistent speed. both are amazin bikes, I have had both of them in my time riding dirtbikes, although I'm 15 i can still say that i like them both the same. As of right now I ride and race a Honda cr125 and I love it. Don't get me wrong i like the yz 250 too

  • I prefer yz, all the way, like the sAying goes, your eaither on a yz or behind it. Haha, they have better top end power most the races you watch it's a yamaha out of the gate first, but the down side to them is that a Honda seems to keep speed a little better, you know what I'm saying?

  • hehe, ppl fighting on the internet over stuff they dont know shit about makes me laught. Do you wannabies think that if u go to a track ppl are fighting over what bike is the best? no everyone there knows that all diffrent big brands got their pros and cons and that theyr basically the same anyway. its easy to tell that more than half of all these comments r posted by ppl that probably never even touched a dirt bike. " yeah i want a yz cuz theyr blue and awesome, and honda sucks" its ridicoulous

  • hondas the best.

  • im with u

  • your stupid you just sayd that they are all the same and then you say yamaha is beter and honda sucks wtf?

  • yamaha is the best

  • yamaha=gay

  • good one

  • yep thats right

  • @honda450r90 honda450r90=gay

  • BT667, your fucking stupid, honda is one of the best bikes, and its Japanese, all the japanese bikes are good dumb fuck

  • wow your stupid i know there japanese dumbass but they seem like a chinese bike cus they sucked so far for me

  • All bikes are good machines unless the owner just beats the shit out of it and no upkeep, turns them to shit quick, and as SNEAK said, all models have their advantages and disadvantages.

  • I hate fanboys who cant think that anything except for their brand is good, if the fanboys brand is Yamaha, then everything else is pure shit to them.. I say its bull, grasp the reality into your mind there is no "BEST" brand, everything has their advantage and disadvantage, well, exceptions for the very cheap chineese bikes, but nontheless, you get the point. I hope.

  • i agree to an extent..

    for example i have two very similair bikes, both low hours, both 125 cc, ones a kawasaki ones a yamaha.

    the yamaha is quite a bit more responsive at low end, but it has a smaller sprocket too.

    the yamaha is a little taller, and takes jumps better too.

    the kawasaki is a newer model, has a different style frame, and a pro circuit pipe and silencer yet the yamaha seems to be the better bike

    just a couple things i noticed

  • cr's have the best acceleration in the dirtbike class but then the yamaha or suzuki in my opinoin has the best top speed. idk about you guys. But, yamaha definetly has without a doubt the best 4 strokes in the class.

  • Are you kidding me? The Yamaha 4 strokes suck! There terrible, there 2 strokes are the best.

  • there 4 and 2 strokes kick ass k?

  • @rjc0l3 i rode 2 strokes my hole life then went to a four stroke so much more torque and power makes 2 strokes look like a bitch

  • @dglionna just remember that the 4 stroke you're riding has to have twice the displacement to keep up with the 2 stroke :)

  • @rjc0l3 dude yamahas the 1st one ever to make a 4stroke they are really reliable

  • @m0t0cr0ss1 ok well i was the first to make 2 stroke, does that make my brand the best ever?

  • @rjc0l3 no but yamahas are really reliable dude. go do research everyone says they last longest

  • @m0t0cr0ss17 beg to difer on that my 1979 rm 50 out does my budys 1980 yz 80 by far

  • @snowman1692 Well thats just fucekd up

  • @rjc0l3 lol are you stupid YZ 450 F 2010 model is the best moto of year is more powerrfull than honda kawasaki susuki and KTM

  • @xtabuasx if all your talking about is power then your comment is false moron. the kawa and KTM are on the top in the horsepower department STOCK. read a fucking magazine transworld and dirt bike said the same thing

  • @sinisterseven8 kawasaki anda KTM pay the magazine for he say that ( yes ktm and kawasaki is very good ) IS ONLY MONEY

  • @xtabuasx ok then why did they do an ENTIRE article on the new 450f kawa about trying how its almost to much power for the average rider? just give up. yamahas arent known for having the most power, but they do have really good low to mid

  • @sinisterseven8 yAMAHAn WIN EVRE RACES in supercross motocross YAMAHA R1 yes yamaha is the bether but isnt ktm kawasaki honda susuki IS THE SAME IS ONLY PIC A COLOR :)

  • @xtabuasx just stop commenting back , nothing your saying makes any sense

  • @sinisterseven8 yhes really?

  • @xtabuasx yep really

  • @rjc0l3 dont talk shit about yamahas

  • @CnRDirt if u read the comment right he was saying the 2 stroke yamahas r better than the 4 stroke yammys

  • @rjc0l3 thats becuase a 250 4 stroke is no faster than a 125 2 stroke there was a huge thing about it in the moto industryabout 450 4 strokes racing 250 2 strokes n i agree 2 strokes r the shit

  • So true, I have a 2007 yz250f and I have had no problems. They might not have the best bottom end, but there still one of the better 4 strokes.

  • cr 125 vs yz 250 lmao funniest thing ive ever heard have the cr got nitrus lol

  • 497orless is my negro

  • suzuki sucks hairy balls there like lowest of the food chain i see those things fall apart all the time

  • i know what you mean just today a muffler came off one

  • SUZUKI ALL THE FUCKING WAY.....who ever is the fucking retard that thinks a 2 stroke has two pistons and a 4 stroke has 4 pistons is a fucking retard and should be shot in the fuckking face with a shot gun not a pistol a shot gun so it blows ur head completely off

  • Hmm, you know they do make a two stroke quad that has two pistons? It's called a Banshee.

  • mmm....350 2-stroke.....nicest quad ever made.....you gotta love to jet and fine tuned carbs though.....2 carbs will give you headache if youre not really familiar with carbs...

  • ya wat ever u guys r all gull of it....u all need to get yourself a SUZUKI!!!!!!!!!! and the kid who think that 2 strokes have 2 cylinders and 4 strokes have 4...UR FUCKIN RETARTED AND SHOULD GO TO HELL! look at ur motor....dose it look like there is enought room for another piston? fuck face...

  • honda cr rule they will kick shit in any other bike face

  • yea thats wats up honda all day

  • thats whats up? lmao honda blows, there no better than the chinese bikes

  • lol

    Honda & Yamaha are both JAPANESE (Not fuckin Chinese) bikes,and what a great bikes !

  • DUH there both japanese dumbass i said hondas no better than the chinese bikes cus they fall apart and have no balls!

  • lol

    Honda it´s 10000 times better than any chinese bike,it´s a fact !

  • not by much

  • Believe me :)

    Chinese bikes are horrible,i´ve been riding a lot of them ... (Pitbikes,250cc Chineses...)

    And all of them are horrible :(

  • yea believe me too i had one

  • Yep

  • True

  • Honda's the best. They never fail for me

  • @ozzyvanhalenrox nah hondas frames are cool but the 2stroke motors are slugish stay with yamaha! -yz250-

  • nop honda and the yamaha started firs and the honda almost kicked its ass and the honda has lower cc's

  • well if you had a yamaha you would probably say the same thing

  • no iwould never get one

  • @ozzyvanhalenrox

    i dont think you understand.. the bikes only as good as the rider.. and the mechanic i could fuck you up on a yzf

  • @ozzyvanhalenrox really cuz it just got its ass whooped

  • @ozzyvanhalenrox thats right i have an cr250 havent fail me yet

  • @ozzyvanhalenrox: Honda is very respectable. Im more of a kawi fan but honda has always been good.

  • @ozzyvanhalenrox yh i love hondas as well apart from iv'e blew it up twice in 3 months and i warm it up for bout 3 mins and i did run it in

  • umm i think the yamaha 250 yz will smash the CR125 even though a CR125 is still a good bike but yer

  • ive been riding for 6 years and i am currently riding a 100xr honda, but i am riding my dads 465it yamaha, and i am wonder what would be a better bike , a crf 250(4-stroke) or a yz250(2-stroke)?

  • the yz 250 is going to have a hell of alot more power then your xr and it will have quit a bit more than the crf 250 just because there is two cylinders instead of four the yz 250 will be in a class with 450 4 strokes the crf will be in a class with the 125 two strokes so if you are a good racer/rider i would get the yz but if you are new to actualy raceing get a crf

  • dude your retarded they only have one cylinder idiot

  • hhaha wat is that idiot on about "just because there is two cylinders insted of four"

  • ok first off ur a fucking idiot bro a crf250r has 1 cylinder its a 4 stroke a yz250 has ONE cylinder u see tha pattern here dirt bikes have one cylinder second off it dnt matter if ur a good racer wiht a yamaha or honda its all on personal preference n besides i ride yamaha but i still think that hondas are better bikes

  • WOW you are such a fucking retard....dirt bikes only have ONE cylinder.... and if hes riding an XR100 now he should probably get a CRF250R since he probably doesn't race... my friend rides a yz250f and he keeps up with his buddy's yz250...

  • two cylinders instead of four?! aha YOUR A FUCKING RETARD wow prolly the stupidest comment ive ever seen

  • hey whats the firing order on my cr125? i cant find it anywhere

  • 1 1 1 1 1 1 lol theres only one piston

  • depends on how much pwoer u want if u get a yz250 its gunna be fuking insanley fast for u. if u get a crf250r or x ther both fast but not as fast as a 250 2 stroke

  • GO WITH THE CRF250, especially since you don't have to worry about mixing gas... if you ride trails though you should probably go with a CRF250X cause its set up for trail riding...

  • im 5'7, 120 pounds and i ride cr 125 it all depends on how good of a rider u are

  • im 6'2 200 pounds what size dirt bike could i ride or can i choose pretty much whatever i want?

  • You could get whatever you want just make sure you can handle the power of whatever you get before you buy it.

  • Alright thanks. My friend doesn't want me to get something bigger than a 125 because he has trouble with bigger bikes but im not him. And he can only handle a 300ex quad and he said if i get another one not to get a 450...fuck him jealous bastard haha.

  • i'd lean towards a 250

  • probly a 250 2 stroke or a 450

  • 250. youd look retarded on a 125

  • lol

  • in 5,7 and 132 punds and i ride a yz 250 fast bike

  • (mysterysk8er1298) you an asshole u think ktm 250sx is badass wow they SUCK! GET HONDA YAMAHA OR KAWASAKI THEY BEAT THEM KTM SUCK

  • lol KTMS are good to dude, yout just a japanese fan boy, its so typical and pathertic, not to say honda suzuki yamaha and kawasaki arent good, but to say that anything other than those sucks is just closed minded.

  • KTMs are good.

    I think they are just too much money. lol.

    I know I'd take a KTM any day if I could, they are good, but for now I'll stick with my KX250. Little more affordable.

  • yea, KTMs are a bit on the high side, but still a great bike, and im not dogging on any of the Japaneses brands either, they are all really good bikes.

  • They are pretty much all good bikes, some years have their faults, from all manufacturers, KTM is just too much money for most people.

    Though you do see a lot riding around at ORV areas. But still like $9,000 for a 250? Come on...