I'm impressed with his verbal reparte and delivery. What I gleaned from this lecture is how mobile devices, advertising and social networks contribute greatly to social engineering.
There are too many bioinformaticists and not enough bio wetlabbers. Because working with computers is too easy relative to working with living systems. We've data mined the heck out of the world's DNA and it's still not quite enough. Because we're only blindly manipulating data and not THINKING about the data.
Math and science grad school in the US is filled with foreigners because Americans can get great-paying technology jobs with a B.S. degree. Coming to a U.S. grad school is an opportunity for people from other parts of the world to have a realistic shot at finding a U.S. job after graduation and getting much better job opportunities.
As a software developer and social activist I think it's a bit absurd to imagine the world's problems can be boiled down to data mining. The presenter completely ignores politics and political struggle in social change. Where is the software that supports that is what I want to know?
Plus why does he pick on cat pictures which are universally loved?? It ignores many elephants in the room, such as financial industry jobs that suck so many talented programmers into socially useless occupations.
@ericgjertsen he ignores political struggle because he's a West Coast techie. There's something in the air out there that makes techies believe they can Save the World through "innovation".
Signed, an East Coast techie with a heavy interest in politics. OCCUPY WALL STREET!
I have no doubt that Google is trying to change the world. But i'm just not sure if it will be better for us or not? If it is going to make us blind "slaves".
For HN readers, the quitting part is not the best part of the talk. So don't just jump to 14:30 and watch that. The main point is to think about working on problems that are useful for society.
To Steve Yegge and Tim O'Reilly. Yes, I own physical copies of 2 of these books, and have several others in a folder on Safari. Yes, publish more. I will be there reading them.
Sure, the delivery and self-aggrandizement that are common in the tech world could use a little work, but he *is* in "on mode" for a conference talk. Yegge's message is more important and welcome. Many of us are struggling with why, given so many serious problems, "the best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads," as Hammerbacher said. At least Yegge's come up with a way to do something about it that works for him.
Rockstar and Bethesda operate on principal and dont suckle the sequel teat? Is he high? Two companies well known for producing almost exclusively derivative works? Who have regularly been shown to operate in a classic corporate manor? Rockstar especially known for crapping on and shutting down studios?
While I don't think it was a good idea for him to quit like that, I follow his line of thinking and am glad he is following what he believes to be right. Bravo, Steve. Bravo.
@emilepetrone Except he doesn't *really* quit. He "quits" the Google project he doesn't care for so he can go back to the Google project he *does* care for. (Yeah, it *sounds* like he's quitting Google, "skin in the game", and all that, but it turns out that he's not quitting much of anything.)
He put his money where his mouth is. It's a difficult thing to do, but it is brave and shows his level of conviction and commitment. Good on Steve for following his own advice, like a boss.
Couldn't Google just reverse-engineer the genome of different cat breeds?
That way, everyone's happy.
Uncompetative 3 days ago
...
KenRocker1968 2 weeks ago
Such a badass
Gavrillo 2 weeks ago
I WILL GO WITH YOU JERRY MAGUIRE.
rstar3000 3 weeks ago
Sir, on the subject of the human genome, BIOLOGY DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOODNIGHT!
eligottlieb 4 weeks ago
I want this video on my VK4100 unit.
fryejames12 1 month ago
I'm impressed with his verbal reparte and delivery. What I gleaned from this lecture is how mobile devices, advertising and social networks contribute greatly to social engineering.
imbluz 1 month ago
There are too many bioinformaticists and not enough bio wetlabbers. Because working with computers is too easy relative to working with living systems. We've data mined the heck out of the world's DNA and it's still not quite enough. Because we're only blindly manipulating data and not THINKING about the data.
DNAutics 2 months ago 3
I love cats
leolsliu 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@leolsliu Indeed. A cat is fine too.
ArvilVonPoney 3 months ago
@seahawks78
Math and science grad school in the US is filled with foreigners because Americans can get great-paying technology jobs with a B.S. degree. Coming to a U.S. grad school is an opportunity for people from other parts of the world to have a realistic shot at finding a U.S. job after graduation and getting much better job opportunities.
wanorris 4 months ago
As a software developer and social activist I think it's a bit absurd to imagine the world's problems can be boiled down to data mining. The presenter completely ignores politics and political struggle in social change. Where is the software that supports that is what I want to know?
Plus why does he pick on cat pictures which are universally loved?? It ignores many elephants in the room, such as financial industry jobs that suck so many talented programmers into socially useless occupations.
ericgjertsen 5 months ago
@ericgjertsen you really dont get it.
iktoe 5 months ago
@ericgjertsen he ignores political struggle because he's a West Coast techie. There's something in the air out there that makes techies believe they can Save the World through "innovation".
Signed, an East Coast techie with a heavy interest in politics. OCCUPY WALL STREET!
eligottlieb 4 weeks ago
I have no doubt that Google is trying to change the world. But i'm just not sure if it will be better for us or not? If it is going to make us blind "slaves".
valajbeg 6 months ago
For HN readers, the quitting part is not the best part of the talk. So don't just jump to 14:30 and watch that. The main point is to think about working on problems that are useful for society.
varungulshan 7 months ago 67
Do jadensmith a girlfriend
Deshawn144 7 months ago
awesome
shytcardz 7 months ago
Inspirational. Great speech.
deathofthemagi 7 months ago 4
Watching it knowing the conclusion, you can see his use of "they" instead of "we" and the primary use of the past tense is hinting at the conclusion.
justncase80 7 months ago
Take a drink every time he says, 'right?' after a sentence.
austinmcconnell 7 months ago 4
Apathy + Steve Yegge = Inspiration
Very nice. Thank you for this I needed it.
joepesci15000 7 months ago 4
This feels very much like a TED talk, and very cool.
sigep311 7 months ago 7
Himm nice talk. Love it.
tutysara 7 months ago 2
To Steve Yegge and Tim O'Reilly. Yes, I own physical copies of 2 of these books, and have several others in a folder on Safari. Yes, publish more. I will be there reading them.
uzanto98 7 months ago 4
You are the absolute man, Steve Yegge.
teenduck69 7 months ago 2
Recently got a masters in CS now looking for a job.. I would love to do something not Web related, but jobs seems rather hard to find.
MrNightLifeLover 7 months ago
That gorilla made a good point
YHVH 7 months ago 4
he didnt quit. he quit the cat picture project. he's still with google cause it's oh so awesome!
jasonheob 7 months ago
bravo!
mattsn0w 7 months ago
He'll get an offer from IBM Research by the end of the day...watch.
bigrobw 7 months ago
I hope to be working with you soon, Steve Yegge.
Interdiffusion 7 months ago
Comment removed
webr3 7 months ago
Sure, the delivery and self-aggrandizement that are common in the tech world could use a little work, but he *is* in "on mode" for a conference talk. Yegge's message is more important and welcome. Many of us are struggling with why, given so many serious problems, "the best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads," as Hammerbacher said. At least Yegge's come up with a way to do something about it that works for him.
anysteph 7 months ago 5
Comment removed
kaffeekrank 7 months ago
Rockstar and Bethesda operate on principal and dont suckle the sequel teat? Is he high? Two companies well known for producing almost exclusively derivative works? Who have regularly been shown to operate in a classic corporate manor? Rockstar especially known for crapping on and shutting down studios?
All credibility just went out the window for me.
sandbag45 7 months ago
Truly inspiring speech. It's a shame that 99% of the ninjas out there care just for the money and their egos. Chapeau Steve!
luiskov 7 months ago
So inspiring... and just the push I needed to make a few changes of my own. Thanks, Steve.
TheSpiritProject 7 months ago
Wow, 1 down vote? Someone from facebook? =)
SaveTheRbtz 7 months ago
@SaveTheRbtz Nah, probably Yegge's boss. :)
daniellindsley 7 months ago
Good luck!
huckfinnaafb 7 months ago
Comment removed
jonweintraub 7 months ago
This was fantastic!
simon333 7 months ago
While I don't think it was a good idea for him to quit like that, I follow his line of thinking and am glad he is following what he believes to be right. Bravo, Steve. Bravo.
monkeyjamboree 7 months ago
That was awesome.
sysprv 7 months ago
Integrity, thy name is Steve Yegge. Bravo.
a97807 7 months ago 24
The great thing about burning bridges is that it keeps you moving forward. You can't spend time waffling about past decisions if you can't go back.
fapestniegd 7 months ago 3
You're the man Steve!!!!
IganLong 7 months ago
Kudos. Very brave and very forward thinking.
billythekid 7 months ago
To save HN some time, he quits at 14:30
emilepetrone 7 months ago 81
@emilepetrone He did not really quit Google. Just the project.
danrbr 7 months ago 9
@emilepetrone No he doesn't. He quits one project. That's a huuuuge difference!
tartley 7 months ago 4
@emilepetrone Except he doesn't *really* quit. He "quits" the Google project he doesn't care for so he can go back to the Google project he *does* care for. (Yeah, it *sounds* like he's quitting Google, "skin in the game", and all that, but it turns out that he's not quitting much of anything.)
neurogami 7 months ago 10
He put his money where his mouth is. It's a difficult thing to do, but it is brave and shows his level of conviction and commitment. Good on Steve for following his own advice, like a boss.
cl4rk3 7 months ago
I wanna see him in five years from now. Hopefully, he will not go back to lolcatz projects again.
pepitofizo 7 months ago
Comment removed
ParisPrague 7 months ago
I admire his heart, but it's a bit sensationalist to quit you're job like that. Never good to burn bridges.
dentonez 7 months ago