I just wanted to note that they were not "spell books" they were educational books concerning different forms of paganism. There is a new proposal as well now too- policy 652. That generally states "As required by law, school officials, employees, and volunteers, while acting in their official capacities shall not use their positions to endorse, promote, or disparage a particular religious belief, view point or practice." <- latest update
Correction. You can lead a horse to water and make it drink if you force it to follow certain doctrines, persecute it when necessary, and have the full, if "unofficial", support of the powers that be behind you...oh, and make it feel totally inadequate for holding to its horsey beliefs.
Asheville is actually one of North Carolina's loveliest towns and is quite progressive; in fact it may be North Carolina's GLBT capital. Which isn't to suggest that the surrounding hills and hollows (hollers) aren't crawling with snaggle-toothed, Jesus-loving, cousin-shagging troglodytes.
@robokill387 If you seen that somewhere else then someone likely copied me. Ive been using that for years back when the break. com website was popular before youtube was even formed. But it doesnt matter. Its a good saying that gets the point across. I suggest everyone use it.
I'm of the frame of mind, that when one religion push their non-sense into any public sphere, flood it with all religions.
If Christians want their bibles in schools, fine. Right beside the quran, the vedas, the illiad, the book of the dead, the avesta, the Barton cylinder --- copies of every religious mythology and indoctrination propaganda.
Making the debate about one, and only one religion, only lends it legitimacy.
@NaomiChambers It's Pagan sweety not Pegan, and no they were not spell books, they were educational Pagan books. Spell books was a misprint in the original article.
Thank you. She did the right thing. I would have thought the school decided to discontinue the policy after they were inundated with every religious and non religious quackary invented for distribution to the students. Perhaps the mother should have put out some advertising to all about free disemination by the school. LOL
I had to remind them that they r a state funded public school, which means, church, (any church) is to be kept seperated, & that they were nfringing upon my children's rights, by making them hide, & remove their pentacles.
Typical! I once had to go to my children's school, & rather harshly xplain to the narrow minded teacher & princapal that my daughters would wear their pentacles w/o further persecution, unless they wanted to make all religious jewelry & clothing against their hypocritical dress code.
The Gideon Foundation also has connections to Christian Reconstructionism and the Chalcedon Foundation, which supports a theocracy that executes gays and witches. Rushdoony who founded Chalcedon also believed in slavery, as if not giving someone just compensation for their work is somehow an example of a "just" society.
I was expecting to get a chortle out of both pagen and christian side of this, I was hoping to hear how a Pagen had cast a spell on a School or such like, and some Butt hurt christians were deeply offended, or such like.
But no, instead I get a very sensible pagan making a good point about why secular schools are important. Secular government in general. I've heard of this sort of thing (sending pagan newsletters out in schoolbags I think), before, to show christians the error of their ways.
I don't think school districts should allow the distribution of ANY materials which would fall into the category of proselytizing or indoctrination, be they religious or otherwise. If people were handing out leaflets promoting atheism, I would protest against it, even though I am an atheist.
Public schools *should* engage, rigorously, in censorship of what is presented to students on school property.
Why are American Christians so sneaky and blatantly dishonest? It certainly indicates they don't really believe the garbage they want you and your children to believe. They claim the existence of objective morality yet what they live by is subjective and very self serving.
I love the microphone and the new look. A winner. You look very natural holding the mic and should use it in every video imo. Great video report and you're right about this being typical. I keep saying people should put up satanic signs next to where the christian ones are instead of suing. Or maybe both.
My primary school, many years ago in port macquarie, added a whole class dedicated to religion and my parents tried to get me to attend it, even at age 7/8/what ever i knew religion was a load of shit and sure enough a massive group of parents rose up and the school decided to change its mind and stop running the class, instead they handed out bibles, of wich most of the kids in the school destroyed them outside, thanks to the help of one teacher who magically got the sack a week later...
Be careful what you wish for Christians. I'm glad my kids school is currently secular. They teach science and evolution and don't try to sneak in religion.
When I was at Australian Catholic University Brisbane they tried the same thing (handing out little white covered bibles) at one of the orientation lectures. I just threw the bible on the floor and left the threatre.
@OliviaGraceChapman99 I think you're missing the point. The christians were happy to talk about freedom of belief when it was their belief. When the pagan wanted to be treated equally the christians didn't like it.
@OliviaGraceChapman99 you didn't understand this, did you? First stupid comment, for sure. Why did the ignorant dishonest people at the school do their crazy stunt. Same question brainiac.
@MacNutz2 checking out olivias vlog im not sure olivia is old enough to know what a pagan is, or an atheist or possibly even a school. But her mice seem happy;)
I just wanted to note that they were not "spell books" they were educational books concerning different forms of paganism. There is a new proposal as well now too- policy 652. That generally states "As required by law, school officials, employees, and volunteers, while acting in their official capacities shall not use their positions to endorse, promote, or disparage a particular religious belief, view point or practice." <- latest update
thedarkmoonmidnight 3 weeks ago
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can I haz pgn spellz bok?
eyallev 1 month ago
Good for the pagan mom even though she probably handed out the same type of crap just with different deities. But at least a point was made.
CrankyCrone 1 month ago
Hell, I've seen them passing them out at lunch in one of the middle schools here. Maybe I can get some copies of the Necronomicon.
Yes, it's Texas.
tctheunbeliever 1 month ago
Hmmm...I wonder how a crate of Dawkin's "The God Delusion", or Hitchen's "Religion Poisons Everything" would've been recieved? ;-)
KCKatheist 1 month ago
That's why I always urge the teaching of Hindu creationism in schools to my Christian "friends"
SiriusMined 1 month ago
Correction. You can lead a horse to water and make it drink if you force it to follow certain doctrines, persecute it when necessary, and have the full, if "unofficial", support of the powers that be behind you...oh, and make it feel totally inadequate for holding to its horsey beliefs.
mxs229 1 month ago
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
jesusflwr 1 month ago
popular prevailing points of view, say that ten times, fast! I think the mother had an excellent strategy to show the hypocrisy.
Antimidation 1 month ago
Asheville is actually one of North Carolina's loveliest towns and is quite progressive; in fact it may be North Carolina's GLBT capital. Which isn't to suggest that the surrounding hills and hollows (hollers) aren't crawling with snaggle-toothed, Jesus-loving, cousin-shagging troglodytes.
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago 3
@WildwoodClaire1 GLBT? = God Loving Bible Thumpers.
Sorry I realize it was an innocent mistake, but I couldn't resist;)
MyGodTheresNoGod 1 month ago
@MyGodTheresNoGod Quite good, actually. :))
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
Great story. Put a smile on my face. Good on her for standing her ground.
phenixwryter 1 month ago
Religion is like a penis. Play with it in private all you want. But stick it the face of kids, and theres gonna be trouble.
JabberCT 1 month ago 7
@JabberCT stop copying other people's comments.
robokill387 1 month ago
@robokill387 If you seen that somewhere else then someone likely copied me. Ive been using that for years back when the break. com website was popular before youtube was even formed. But it doesnt matter. Its a good saying that gets the point across. I suggest everyone use it.
JabberCT 1 month ago
LMAO that mother is smart.
vmorgun 1 month ago
I'm of the frame of mind, that when one religion push their non-sense into any public sphere, flood it with all religions.
If Christians want their bibles in schools, fine. Right beside the quran, the vedas, the illiad, the book of the dead, the avesta, the Barton cylinder --- copies of every religious mythology and indoctrination propaganda.
Making the debate about one, and only one religion, only lends it legitimacy.
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
Did she actually drop off the pegan spell books?
NaomiChambers 1 month ago
@NaomiChambers It's Pagan sweety not Pegan, and no they were not spell books, they were educational Pagan books. Spell books was a misprint in the original article.
thedarkmoonmidnight 3 weeks ago
Nice
lovelittlecats 1 month ago
Thank you. She did the right thing. I would have thought the school decided to discontinue the policy after they were inundated with every religious and non religious quackary invented for distribution to the students. Perhaps the mother should have put out some advertising to all about free disemination by the school. LOL
RichardRoy2 1 month ago
In other news any public school in the UK that teaches creationism as a science will have their funding withdrawn
10phoenix01 1 month ago
Always an interesting video from you. Lol
SnagTalk 1 month ago 2
Something tells me that those same Christians are the ones crying that they're being "repressed" by new secular movements too
TheAnimeAtheist 1 month ago
Good vid, and this is so typical.
chthonios 1 month ago
Thanks for posting this
dominictemple 1 month ago
I had to remind them that they r a state funded public school, which means, church, (any church) is to be kept seperated, & that they were nfringing upon my children's rights, by making them hide, & remove their pentacles.
STRAiGHTjAKETzPSyCHo 1 month ago
Typical! I once had to go to my children's school, & rather harshly xplain to the narrow minded teacher & princapal that my daughters would wear their pentacles w/o further persecution, unless they wanted to make all religious jewelry & clothing against their hypocritical dress code.
STRAiGHTjAKETzPSyCHo 1 month ago
The Gideon Foundation also has connections to Christian Reconstructionism and the Chalcedon Foundation, which supports a theocracy that executes gays and witches. Rushdoony who founded Chalcedon also believed in slavery, as if not giving someone just compensation for their work is somehow an example of a "just" society.
jaymthegenius 1 month ago
LOL! Sort of a secular 'firewall.' LOL!
Christheatheist1 1 month ago
I was expecting to get a chortle out of both pagen and christian side of this, I was hoping to hear how a Pagen had cast a spell on a School or such like, and some Butt hurt christians were deeply offended, or such like.
But no, instead I get a very sensible pagan making a good point about why secular schools are important. Secular government in general. I've heard of this sort of thing (sending pagan newsletters out in schoolbags I think), before, to show christians the error of their ways.
TheBoyFromNorfolk 1 month ago
i was given a gideon bible in at school 1979. incidently, Cosmos was being shown at the same time. i read the bible... i became an atheist.
raverdeath100 1 month ago
@raverdeath100 "... at school in 1979 "
raverdeath100 1 month ago
It took me the whole length of the video before it dawned on me that "spell book" didn't mean spelling book!
Pineverends 1 month ago
I have to agree with vogter that this is typical.
tattooskin72 1 month ago
shes a good parent :)
paranorma1palace 1 month ago
Typical!
Vogter616 1 month ago
I'd love to have one of those spellbooks. Just for curiosity.
WarChicken78 1 month ago
I don't think school districts should allow the distribution of ANY materials which would fall into the category of proselytizing or indoctrination, be they religious or otherwise. If people were handing out leaflets promoting atheism, I would protest against it, even though I am an atheist.
Public schools *should* engage, rigorously, in censorship of what is presented to students on school property.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
...And now over to Steve in the studio......
yeah the new look works, bit of glare off the glasses though AA
jimthepleb 1 month ago
No surprise that this happened. All too typical.
bvwatcher2 1 month ago
Why are American Christians so sneaky and blatantly dishonest? It certainly indicates they don't really believe the garbage they want you and your children to believe. They claim the existence of objective morality yet what they live by is subjective and very self serving.
MacNutz2 1 month ago
I think that out of the two books the spell book is actually the one doing the least harm to the children.
itsjustameme 1 month ago
I love the microphone and the new look. A winner. You look very natural holding the mic and should use it in every video imo. Great video report and you're right about this being typical. I keep saying people should put up satanic signs next to where the christian ones are instead of suing. Or maybe both.
SuperSoylent2 1 month ago
Makes me doubt the power of the holy scriptures when they cower before pagan spells. Well good, I don't have to worry about hell I guess.
TheFeltbegone 1 month ago
My primary school, many years ago in port macquarie, added a whole class dedicated to religion and my parents tried to get me to attend it, even at age 7/8/what ever i knew religion was a load of shit and sure enough a massive group of parents rose up and the school decided to change its mind and stop running the class, instead they handed out bibles, of wich most of the kids in the school destroyed them outside, thanks to the help of one teacher who magically got the sack a week later...
Spinobreaker 1 month ago
Be careful what you wish for Christians. I'm glad my kids school is currently secular. They teach science and evolution and don't try to sneak in religion.
exacerbatedtaboo 1 month ago
When I was at Australian Catholic University Brisbane they tried the same thing (handing out little white covered bibles) at one of the orientation lectures. I just threw the bible on the floor and left the threatre.
cleticprincess1956 1 month ago
Hypocrisy and religion. This seems to be fairly common of late.
micometer 1 month ago
Typical! Bland platitudes are trotted out on the assumption they will not be acted upon then when they are - oops we didn't mean it after all.
johncrwarner 1 month ago
Well said
keeleeng 1 month ago
see, i knew miracles can happen.
V00D00SIXXX 1 month ago
thanks for the heads-up
PornographicSoul 1 month ago
hahahaa , good job !
IM THE FIRST VIEWER :)
Why the hell would this crazy pagan bitch do this !
OliviaGraceChapman99 1 month ago
@OliviaGraceChapman99 I think you're missing the point. The christians were happy to talk about freedom of belief when it was their belief. When the pagan wanted to be treated equally the christians didn't like it.
Hyperplaterine 1 month ago
@OliviaGraceChapman99 you didn't understand this, did you? First stupid comment, for sure. Why did the ignorant dishonest people at the school do their crazy stunt. Same question brainiac.
MacNutz2 1 month ago
@MacNutz2 checking out olivias vlog im not sure olivia is old enough to know what a pagan is, or an atheist or possibly even a school. But her mice seem happy;)
jimthepleb 1 month ago
@jimthepleb in fact i'd guess 99 is her DOB
jimthepleb 1 month ago
@jimthepleb I think you are right. I replied before I saw that it was a child I was responding to.
MacNutz2 1 month ago
@OliviaGraceChapman99 And why the hell would the crazy Christian arseholes give out Bibles?
colourmegone 1 month ago
@OliviaGraceChapman99 To prove the principle was a lair
felinoid 1 month ago