old school vs modern tennis forehand

[akirajunto]

so, which one is better in a match? flat or topspin?

[Themediversion]

@akirajunto Topspin because the chances of the ball being in are higher. Plus, it is difficult to hit a ball at your sweet spot when a ball is bouncing high and fast. With flat shots, especially fast ones, you can basically put your racket in front of you and use the power from the ball to generate it back. There are times when flat shots are preferred but most of the time you want to hit topspin. Its also about timing but I won't get into that:)

[Pundit2k]

Solid strokes and good footwork, but if you're breeding a champion, at that age she should be much faster and more continuous with her feet, and should be whipping the ball much harder.

[TeppTennis]

she hits clean. you teach her?

[BlakkLining]

well , i don't think a player would has much time for preparation like the girl in this video. Also, we all know that the most important thing in tennis is footwork, so this video shows... not enough to me. She can hit the ball as hard as she want, but the ball may not cross the net or stay inside the baseline as she wants to

[beavertown2006]

She is better than Serena Black Shit Williams.

[federerbestcIass]

@beavertown2006 why?

[TheSummitnatural]

flat and topspin?

[62996n]

she better than me, i'm 15 .... lol

[hattrickster33]

She's probably better than most club players.

[rooksaiz]

The next serena williams.

[486582]

wow her forms are soo perfect, i wished i was as talented as she was at such a young age

[agentyarred]

So eastern is old school and wester is modern? What about Federer than?

[JoshuaBuffone]

So is she just petit, or is the racket oversized?

Forreal though, great stuff.

[joshua1marcelo]

Flat and topspin

nice video though (:

[FRDKNG]

Whats funny is that the tennis racquet is as big as her! But good luck and keep it up!

[mistersexytime]

god i hope she stays with tennis :/

[TENDOD]

I'm not impressed, anyone can do it with a little practice. She impressed me if she hits his forehand while moving. Despite his good technique to hit a ball on the spot means nothing.

signed Roger Federer.

[Denoheatwave]

Nice but I like the normal forehand grip because I can get more spin.

[DanieljDixon]

She strikes the ball very pure, and has flawless timing. The balls is not traveling fast but that is very precise hitting. Great demonstration also.

[Doggieman1111]

great form, very nice

[Bladerunner55217]

I have to use a eastern grip /old school stroke for fast low shots at me . I just started learning the modern stroke/dip drive for high put away shots that come medium paced with tops spin (on the rise at the peak of the raise) Can you hit the modern stroke with the low fast balls (knee high realitivley easy when your good at the modern forehand ? Thanks for your time.

[tonydaysog]

Oh, I enjoyed this. Indeed, the first set of forehands were what we were taught back in the 70s: "starting from bent knee position on balls of your feet, uopn seeing the ball going toward your forehand, turn side ways, take racket back, shift weight forward, and swing . . . let the rack follow-through up!" Tennis now is so amazing, in terms of power generated by (relatively) new ways of hitting (open stance, semi-jumping into the ball, etc), along with the new materials rackets are made of.

[CincinnatiNS]

great to see ! a youngster that knows the difference and can actually demostrate the difference.  Thank you !

[AndresRoddick1]

is she like 12? She can be the next big star in womans tennis you know

[jyy82993]

Pros and cons of both forehands please?

[MrMSS93]

The racket is almost as big as the girl =D .

Good technique.

[scaremenga]

Good hits, but that racquet looks huge!

[ivancho1936]

i would like to give you some advice about your pupils technique. about the forehand. if you compare her forehand with everyone in top 10 men you could see that before they hit the forehand they hold the racket much more than her because if you dont hold the racket could fall. down and it that way every forehand has a different contact.

[gabtennis588]

there is not a lot of difference it's only the grip she change from eastern to semi-western

[hsianghsi]

wow, solid stroke for small girl like her

[irynaKIM]

she hits great!

[tennisproderek]

she uses a weird grip to hit the ball

[vmntmn]

the first one was like a continental, and the modern one was when she probably changed to a semi western

[tommyenglish1]

dont know why you got the thumbs down, you are right.

[ss4goku395]

Uhh, there wasn't much modern tennis in there, but that girl is really good! All I really saw "modern" wise was the horizontal forehand, the rest were all elevated forehands. That girl will go far in the tennis world if she keeps going though!

[daweedcito]

her technique looks good...

[dontclicktheusername]

that racquet is too big for her

[WatsAGoblin2AGoon]

good strokes

[takkyu101]

why do i have this feeling that all of these kids will amount to nothing.

[tommyenglish1]

well i dont know about the other kids but i have no idea why you would think that about Emira, maybe because you have not seen her enough.

[willobillo0714]

Is this video just trying to show that old school tennis had less topspin than modern?

[dodododa]

I believe it's showing that old school played off the front foot, while modern loads on the back foot.

[plstrom]

yes but i believe tha enphase is on the grip more than on the feet, but you are right anyway and that point is even more important

[mikeblackproductions]

@tommyenglish1 where is this?

[darkburnout00]

because you are right!

[MrGordonsung]

@takkyu101 that is a pretty mean thing to say.

[Qpham05]

Tom, I'm having trouble getting the drive on the ball with SW forehand and end up brushing over the ball and getting very poor contact. What can I do to fix this?

[chonobe]

point at the ball with ur left arm (right hander) if u dont get what i mean, go watch some pro in slow motion and look at their left arm

[tommyenglish1]

sorry mate i missed this message. 1st - don't hold your grip too far around the handle. 2nd - dont try to imitate a windshield wiper or a rainbow. 3rd just focus on legthening your swing as you role over the ball, just make sure you get the ball spinning forwards everytime. you are probably just trying to do too much. let me know what you think.

[Sn3aKerFr33kZ]

@tommyenglish1 well first u never want to quote on quote "roll over the ball" i thought u waz suppose to brush upward against it...unless some people dont know what there talking about??? what you think???

[asdfuogh]

@Sn3aKerFr33kZ Physically, you don't want to roll over the ball because the moment of impact is a very short time frame and if you were rolling over the ball, you'd be hitting it slightly downward... which only works if you're hitting it higher than the net. Of course, if you only imagine yourself rolling over the ball, but actually just swinging up, that's fine. It's normal Newtonian physics...

[bankaimaniac]

next SErena

[girlonlaptop]

great vid. i learned to play with modern tennis and its amazing!

[jimbo87j]

I think it is fantastic to have your student hit with a continental forehand. It places heavy emphasis on why holding the racquet with a strong palm of the hands is important for learning and improving the eastern or semi-western forehand grip. I like it - it's old school!

[cyrusgreg]

make sure you enlist her in the bolliterri academy when she gets a little older or she wont stand a chance.

[tommyenglish1]

No thanks

[cyrusgreg]

she hits across the ball very well but you also need to teach her the windshield wiper motion. you should probably review FYB2007 videos on youtube for "windshield wiper" and other forehand related videos.

[tommyenglish1]

Is this one of my mates joking with me? Windshield wiper forehand? haha thanks for the advice.

[turtlecutches]

Ttell me sir what are your expectations of this girl Wimbledon? Because it seems you are putting forward as a coach a lot of effort on just her.

[tommyenglish1]

Well I expect her to be number 1 in the world but I am not putting all my hopes and dreams in to that. This job working with Emira everyday beats working with a lot of people once a week. My results are good and pleasing. Thats why I do this job.

[Prickle]

LOl wtf are you saying the modern forehand DOES NOT NEED A WINDSHIELD wiper forehand ? LAWLZ look at all teh pros . Nadal uses his wrist, federer uses a lot of wrist andy roddick uses a lot of wrist LOL. The windshield wiper forehand = modern forehand

[tommyenglish1]

I am aware of how much wrist the pro's use and yes they do use it. If you want to describe it as a windshield wiper motion then go ahead.

[dorker1992]

if she learns to use like both fhs she can use a bit if conti on grass ? imagine how good she will be! and western on clay and etc.

[1NigaHigaFan1]

she really good

[tolendoi123]

nice form wait is that racket like tsonga's? man im a newbie and i suck at forehands^^

[tommyenglish1]

young boy stains haha

[LordLayAlotTK]

Jesus her racket looks huge on her.

[ChaseGustafson]

Closed face

Open face

hit the ball in front of you

follow through

not tough

[est1973]

If only more coaches were like you. So many of them out there are clueless.

[tommyenglish1]

thanks

[svartkalrot]

That makes enough sense to me but why would another 'coach' not understand this? I was being taught wrong from this one dude then changed coaches and my game improved so much! He made the 'modern swing' dummy proof for me and it works. Students should be aware of what their coach is telling them to do, just think about it for a second. Do you think you are better than the coaches that disagreed with you? Or you could just have different teaching styles.

[tommyenglish1]

I think some coaches have different styles of coaching but there ends up being right and wrong ways of doing things. A lot of coaches dont break it down for their pupils or understand the shots fully and they just talk nonsense. Its like telling a 5 year old to just spin the ball forward and then make the stroke bigger swinging over the shoulder, they will get that pretty quick and they will be hitting topspin, but some coaches just complicate the hell out of it.

[svartkalrot]

Hello Tom,

What is the point of this video? By your

description it seems your saying coaches are

not able to coach modern and or progressive

tennis to their students? Your student seems to understand 'modern' strokes and have grasped the concept fully. Tennis is a progressive sport and swinging like Rod(the rocket)Laver in 2009 would not make sense to me.Unless the person is like 60 years old...Right?

[tommyenglish1]

Hi, thanks for your comment and questions. Yes I am kind of saying that coaches dont know how to coach the modern forehand. I did this video because I had commented on a coaching video saying that he was coaching the 70's technique,he asked if Emira could do this modern forehand when she was 50. I think thats what a lot of coaches think but I wanted to show everyone how simple & controled the modern forehand can be if done and coached right and if she wanted she could do the 70's one anyway.

[tommyenglish1]

I was also interested to see if she could control the ball with this grip and style, and if she had a full understand of all the spins etc. most kids just hit it straight into the back fence.

[tommyenglish1]

Please read my description and rate please, and feel free to ask questions.