it never happens so clearly, and the systems never work so perfectly in a real catastrophic situation, this is why they still happen, the sims are too ""easy"" :)
@harold562 depends on the condition. On perfect flying conditions there is no need. Example: When a waterplane (one that takes off from water) takes off then yes, because waves can cause the hand of the pilot to slip off the throttle. Then two hands, captain and co-pilot, need to be on the throttle so this minimizes that risk.
neutral position? lol how cute. anyways that video was epic although it wasent in a real airplane. its very clear and understandable what they are saying. its hard to find a actual airplane inflight engine supression procedure on the net. awesome thanks for posting it =))))))))))))0
I'm not getting something, but it's probably OK. 1) They were extinguishing the engine fire after they stopped, disengaged the autobrake, put on parking brake, etc? I.e. not immediately? 2) It seems to me it took ages before they gave info to the crew about what happened, which direction they should depart the aircraft and there's no command to leave the aircraft at all? I suppose it must be correct, but any comments as to why? The seconds would be missing if fire spreads, isn't it?
Fair enough... but it's actually a rejected take off because of an engine fire, very well handled by TAP crew in an A321 as the title says.
I get your point and would agree with you if it was a Microsoft Flight Simulator video, but this one shows the real procedure... and of course, on the other hand, I don't think anyone would be recording this one on the real airplane if this emergency was to occur.
I thought they did reached V1, but I only know english. :-] Since they stopped, they did not achieve V1 before the engine fire, but by the looks of it, they were close.
In training it's not uncommon to face an emergency just seconds prior to V1. It's among worst case scenarios, being so close to that decision speed.
First of all, it's a simulator. 2nd, pilots can't just run out like schoolgirls, they have a job to do. If there's a fire they're job is to try to put it out, secure and evacuate the aircraft.
can anyone tell me everything that is going on up to about 40 seconds.. what is stabalised, why do they click those buttons together, why does he announce hes taking off, whats he saying about the auto thrust.. thx
Hi There..the 'stabilise' is when they run the engines up initially to, say, 50%. They check the engine instruments to make sure the engines are running normally before setting takeoff power. The buttons they pressed start the 'chrono' or timer, as we would call it! It shows on the Nav display, so the pilots can monitor time since takeoff...
Stabilized means that the N1, the engines rotational compressor speed have been spooled up to about 70%, meaning full throttle forward is ready to be initiated. Auto thrust is the aircraft thrust autopilot which will control the thrust automatically. That's what they were activating together. And last, Takeoff simply means both pilots are ready for the takeoff phase of the flight. Hope that answered it for you.
only inform ATC rejected take off is not enough, first officer should inform ATC about engine fire in order to help ATC require fire engine standby on ground.
Why evacuate at a engine fire???? they can shut the engine down and start the distinguisher. And in a few second the firecrew will arrive. But if the situation was really bad like a majoor explosion, is there enough time to got trough all check list?????? I would shut the engien down and evacuate the pax and my ass out.
They would most likely be getting the pax out on the side of the plane that does not have the hazard, while the pilots would be going through the checklist.
OH, I don't know...jet fuel, fire, things you can't see from the cockpit. Checklists were born to keep you from forgetting important things like setting off the "distinguisher's". Informing the cabin crew, unless of course you just auger in, in that case checklist's don't do too much good.
does that continuous chime for the Master Warning cover any others apart from Fire and Overspeed.
Boeing has a separate warning for fire alarms and for Master Warning alarms
thomsonfly645k 3 months ago
it never happens so clearly, and the systems never work so perfectly in a real catastrophic situation, this is why they still happen, the sims are too ""easy"" :)
unpracticalrunway 5 months ago 38
I'd like to see you there, and perform so easily as you talk!
377580 5 months ago
@377580 I am nor a pilot nor an airline manager nor a trainer, I don't have the responsibility to keep everyone alive without ever failing
unpracticalrunway 5 months ago 19
that would be boring flying with them....soo monotone
bajesus666 6 months ago
check
Muslim2888 7 months ago
This evacuation procedure is much easier than the B737NG
ARKIEX 7 months ago
0:47 "Stop, retard..." lol
Rayden440 7 months ago 4
@Rayden440 It means to retard the engines, like to remove power
cartuner555 6 months ago
Excellent Training Material!!
++++++++++++++
SirTimidFly 7 months ago
O.o shouldn't both pilot, and copilot have a hand on the throttle?!?!
harold562 7 months ago
@harold562 depends on the condition. On perfect flying conditions there is no need. Example: When a waterplane (one that takes off from water) takes off then yes, because waves can cause the hand of the pilot to slip off the throttle. Then two hands, captain and co-pilot, need to be on the throttle so this minimizes that risk.
AzziejEnzo 7 months ago
@harold562 No..
RontoTheDog 6 months ago
shouldn't the critical items be confirmed first by the other pilot before being activated? such as engine shut off and fire bottles?
4fifty8 9 months ago
i want a sim. like this @home
SRakash 10 months ago
neutral position? lol how cute. anyways that video was epic although it wasent in a real airplane. its very clear and understandable what they are saying. its hard to find a actual airplane inflight engine supression procedure on the net. awesome thanks for posting it =))))))))))))0
tman1gtsi 1 year ago
Oh yes now i remember, thanks!
dtiydr 1 year ago
Those weels in the center at the bottom of the console that moves at 2:00 what are those?
dtiydr 1 year ago
@dtiydr Trim wheels
AviationHD1 1 year ago
@dtiydr those are the trim wheels, they are turned to help maintain level flight while allowing the yoke to be in the neutral position.
erjohnson227 1 year ago
why the co-pilot wast time turning off the warning sign??
guilhermerrrr 1 year ago
@guilhermerrrr How is it wasting time? It's part of the procedure.
JARMOPOWER 10 months ago
@19browser83. In extreme cases that may be possible. But passing V1 means your COMMITING to the takeoff. There is no turning back.
planeboy737 1 year ago
all you youtube aviation experts are fucking dumbasses.
beergut111 1 year ago
@beergut111 Lol i would love to hear how much you know!
planeboy737 1 year ago
@planeboy737 i know a lot.....been doing it for over 30 years. what would you like to know?
beergut111 1 year ago 2
@beergut111. Go on explain. I never said I was an expert by the way! So I don't think I deserve to be called a 'Dumbass'
planeboy737 1 year ago
@planeboy737 oh well your posts seem to imply you know what your talking about.
beergut111 1 year ago
What if this occurred at V-1?
oldaardvark 1 year ago
@oldaardvark. If you go past V1 then you have commited to the takeoff.
SO BASICALLY
YOU
HAVE
TO
TAKE
OFF
planeboy737 1 year ago
@planeboy737 No the procedure said. Brake only if:
Engine out
Plane unable to fly
luna8181 1 year ago
@luna8181. Yup but there can be many other problems too that could cause a RTO. I.e Burst Tyre, Weather etc.
planeboy737 1 year ago
why did they evacuate the aircraft?
usstaralliance 1 year ago
@usstaralliance. Cause there was an engine fire you numpty!
planeboy737 1 year ago
I wish I had a simulator like that haha
wompasdub 1 year ago 5
@wompasdub Me too
MusicLover11325 1 year ago
i hope i fly for tap one day, i am Portuguese so thats a start
dcsilva10 1 year ago
Sounds like Chekov from 'Star Trek'.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
I got to sit in a Boeing flight sim when I was a kid (exactly like this one) it was great wish I could fly one.
thermo1984 1 year ago
I'm not getting something, but it's probably OK. 1) They were extinguishing the engine fire after they stopped, disengaged the autobrake, put on parking brake, etc? I.e. not immediately? 2) It seems to me it took ages before they gave info to the crew about what happened, which direction they should depart the aircraft and there's no command to leave the aircraft at all? I suppose it must be correct, but any comments as to why? The seconds would be missing if fire spreads, isn't it?
oakld 1 year ago
@oakld There's a saying among professional 'operators', law enforcement and others who routinely carry a gun.
It goes, 'Slow is smooth; and smooth is fast'. Means that doing things right is more important than doing them 'fast'.
In an actual emergency I'm sure things would naturally go much faster...but still 'smoothly'.
ironhorzmn 1 year ago
@oakld: you're right, but this is just a training, in a real fire event they will move much quickly.
kdes 1 year ago
@TGizm0
It is. but first you must start watching the video to realize. if the tittle say so, people can easily decide whether to link in it ot not. :)
joaquinnn 1 year ago
Fair enough... but it's actually a rejected take off because of an engine fire, very well handled by TAP crew in an A321 as the title says.
I get your point and would agree with you if it was a Microsoft Flight Simulator video, but this one shows the real procedure... and of course, on the other hand, I don't think anyone would be recording this one on the real airplane if this emergency was to occur.
TGizm0 1 year ago
@TGizm0 you´r right.
joaquinnn 1 year ago
Why dont you specify that its a simulator?
joaquinnn 1 year ago
Because it's more than obvious.
TGizm0 1 year ago
the boeing's cockpit look much more pleasant and relaxing than airbus's
guipinsan 1 year ago
I thought they did reached V1, but I only know english. :-] Since they stopped, they did not achieve V1 before the engine fire, but by the looks of it, they were close.
In training it's not uncommon to face an emergency just seconds prior to V1. It's among worst case scenarios, being so close to that decision speed.
flyindart 2 years ago
lol
its a simulator for pilot training
look at the window, its a screen,
its flickering all the time
nukemelamers 2 years ago
slow!
IJariJuniorI 2 years ago 2
pilot in training lol
legoslie 2 years ago
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portuguese pilots speaking english xD
harrisKiss 2 years ago
its a simulator man
marcelodelagoXD 2 years ago
what the heck??????
Jlyhhh22 2 years ago
i can do that
rob5654 2 years ago
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they didn't check everything
because if they did the engine would get caught on fire. they should double check
turbotimer1 2 years ago
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do they acutally just sit there when theres a fire going? i would stop that plane and run out. fck who gives a shit its you life on the line.
y2k862 2 years ago
It's a simulator, there's no danger.
AviationNation787 2 years ago
First of all, it's a simulator. 2nd, pilots can't just run out like schoolgirls, they have a job to do. If there's a fire they're job is to try to put it out, secure and evacuate the aircraft.
CaptEm1 2 years ago 40
can anyone tell me everything that is going on up to about 40 seconds.. what is stabalised, why do they click those buttons together, why does he announce hes taking off, whats he saying about the auto thrust.. thx
forces077 2 years ago
Hi There..the 'stabilise' is when they run the engines up initially to, say, 50%. They check the engine instruments to make sure the engines are running normally before setting takeoff power. The buttons they pressed start the 'chrono' or timer, as we would call it! It shows on the Nav display, so the pilots can monitor time since takeoff...
nigelmtb 2 years ago
Stabilized means that the N1, the engines rotational compressor speed have been spooled up to about 70%, meaning full throttle forward is ready to be initiated. Auto thrust is the aircraft thrust autopilot which will control the thrust automatically. That's what they were activating together. And last, Takeoff simply means both pilots are ready for the takeoff phase of the flight. Hope that answered it for you.
CaptEm1 2 years ago 6
simulator..no panic no stress..drink my beer..lol
CKOI969 2 years ago
Vodka!
Rejectedtakeoff90 2 years ago
It is not real it is a Simulator you can tell because the screen is blinking which means it is a video camra tapeing a computer
freddy04123 2 years ago
0:36 why did he take his hand off the thrust levers!?
dooglemcdermit 2 years ago
theres nothing wrong with that :S
federalfsx 2 years ago
because he activatet the chrono
4u2024 2 years ago
At V1 hands out of the Thrust Levers.
gonzas144 2 years ago
Yeah but if they where at V1 they would not have rejected the T/O... Not even for an engine fire...
You MUST fly the aircraft..
bphendri 2 years ago 3
true,
mrwideboy 2 years ago
They had not yet reached V1.
bphendri 2 years ago
they didn't make it to V1, if they did they wouldn't be able to stop by the end of the runway.
JumpStartation 2 years ago
fire proof button push. Haha i know they are following procedure but i find the grammer funny
PerfectAdminVersion2 2 years ago
I know that "Retard" means retard the throttle... but I find it pretty funny:
Pilot 1: "Engine One Fire."
Pilot 2: "STOP!"
Plane: "RETARD"
larenegUK 2 years ago 5
hahaahah xD
aze4 2 years ago
lollo
CookieSplit 2 years ago
its actually pretty funny!!
:D
OnkelAchmet92 2 years ago
its a simulator!!!look at the window
BlindShorty11 2 years ago
Are all pilots 'units' like these assholes?
panictactics 2 years ago
its flight simulator :D
olbi182 3 years ago 3
only inform ATC rejected take off is not enough, first officer should inform ATC about engine fire in order to help ATC require fire engine standby on ground.
ubluesky2007 3 years ago
absolutely agree - they should inform ATC if engine will be still running, which engine is failed and basicaly what is the nature of the problem
HanzPrague 3 years ago
Wow! These pilots know how to peform professionally. Hope they do the same when it comes to the real thing.
It's amazing the alarms are soft.
DeltaEagle7700 3 years ago
I'm sure they are a bit louder when you have them a foot away from you not 5 feet. They always sound pretty loud on CVR tapes
toekneef1 3 years ago
True. But some alarms up close, normally would blare. These alarms chime.
DeltaEagle7700 2 years ago
Like Im going to pull a checklist out why my airplane is on fire on the ground
rayc414a 3 years ago
lame? this is training and its used for saving lifes u fuckin retard.. respect out pilots like we respect yours.. seriously..
keniano 3 years ago 68
well said
MohammedBE 3 years ago 3
all i know is that if the engines on fire i wanna be on the ground lol good training for these guys
praetorian2150 3 years ago
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Lame
TheCottonTop 3 years ago
Then don`t watch it, you idiot
lockstocknl 3 years ago 7
"RETARD". I'd be insulted. :)
ianchard 3 years ago
lol
keniano 2 years ago
bloody hell !! look at the run way obviously it is not real , this is a place where young pilots deal with problems dumb fuck
sealalula 3 years ago
"Engine one fire push button push....push." :)
Now seriously, really great videos guys, very informative!
danbadone 3 years ago
this is a simulator
NateD14 3 years ago
u can ask airbus
gescoboza 3 years ago
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Pretty good! Amazing the Airbus!
DeltaEagle7700 3 years ago 6
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Why evacuate at a engine fire???? they can shut the engine down and start the distinguisher. And in a few second the firecrew will arrive. But if the situation was really bad like a majoor explosion, is there enough time to got trough all check list?????? I would shut the engien down and evacuate the pax and my ass out.
aircharts 3 years ago
They would most likely be getting the pax out on the side of the plane that does not have the hazard, while the pilots would be going through the checklist.
mrivera1 3 years ago 3
The 'distinguisher'? LOL
pineappleboy1 3 years ago 6
OH, I don't know...jet fuel, fire, things you can't see from the cockpit. Checklists were born to keep you from forgetting important things like setting off the "distinguisher's". Informing the cabin crew, unless of course you just auger in, in that case checklist's don't do too much good.
crashinflames 3 years ago
An engine has fuel runing through it, if u combine fire and gas. what happens?
Thats why its a safety precaution
nathanael909 3 years ago
wow that's amazing with all the check list stuff
mumisanmartin 4 years ago