So later came the test, and i failed it. When this happened, do you think its appropiate for me to blame my friend for the helps he had gave me when doing homeworks? Should i blame my friends whenever i failed a test? Nope, i personally don't think that's wise. Sure, his help wasn't much, and i ended up not getting good score for the test, but, it was my own fault for not having done my best during the test and didn't take it seriously. After all, all he did was helping me to become better.
Lets give another example, let say a friend help me in my class, to do some homework. That friend helped me because he believed that friends take care of each other. "Sharing is caring", he said. I myself can just make sure i have good discipline and try to be an awesome student, but of course that doesn't mean i have to be selfish and not welcome help from fellow classmates. After all, who knows, my friend might just know that something which i don't.
Oh wow. I guess if a germ phobic person dosnt want to shake hands then its ok for people not to for religious reasons as well, its pretty much the same from what I can tell
so in other words, handshake is more of showing intimacy/closeness/friendliness and not being hostile right? we do shake hands between same gender and we do it because of the same same reason, being friendly. however, the religion put limit on who you can shake hands with(or any other form of touch). We all dont shake hands excessively, press to hard, etc. right? its manners and we are not against handshake, bur rather inserting extra manner in handshakes.we loves handshake too. :)
afterall, dont man hold a woman hands to show intimacy? in pretty much every picture of spouses, they will hold hands. so this intimacy was not meant for unmarried couples, so islam put a limit on who you can touch so that intimacy is preserved exclusively for married couples. One thing will always lead to another some would say. Accept that not everyone is able to withhold their lust if living without these limitation.
Just some extra notes, some sources says its okay to handshake between man and women, as long as there is no skin to skin contact. Since it was not the handshake that is forbidden, but the showing of Aurah and skin to skin contact between two different gender that matters.
need i remind you, that these 'procedures' are all but to aid in meeting the task that islam have asked of its followers. It might not be ultimate solution for every problem, It might not entirely stops other people from taking advantage of u, nor might it protects u from all bad people. But prevention is always better than cure. Its worth trying to protect yourself than not trying at all. Bad things only stops if people are willing to understand each other and have respect to one another.
likewise, handshake doesnt always guarantee the other one not being hostile or of bad intention. Leaders shake hands and still they wage war on each other. Handshake doesnt always lead towards lust, but if it does at least true muslim women are protected. Just so you know, some muslim women will reply to your handshake(if they must, like when doing business/trade) by putting one hand on their opposite shoulder and nodding.This is common in hotels at my place when the girls greet their guest.
have you been to hotels at thailand or indonesia? they dont shake hands, they greet by putting their palms together. since it is their culture to do that, hence i notice muslim women there also greet in the same manner instead of handshake.. point is, while some might prefer handshake, is also better to respect other way of greetings as well and not putting handshake as the one standard tool of greeting and showing you are unarmed.
Assalamualaikum...perfectly said sister...syaitan had made a promise to Allah to 'divert' as many men and women from true path till the last day.Always ask for HIS forgiveness as we are not immune to make mistake...
Great information sites and thank you for the info, but every shake is a haram that in that sense is a bad fitanah young men, I love the modesty, i would just like to leave the sites or info.
@StopSpamming1 These Millions of hadiths are very idk... to be stabbed in the hand?
If you have sexual feelings over a hand well then we have a problem..
Where does it say in the Quran? i personally do not believe in the sunnah because theres SOOOO MANY hadiths that make no sense. 76 virgins? black hair dye? common Allah sent down his book in perfect form
can you really tell who is normal, and not just by seeing them a couple of time? who knows what people are really like, their dark secrets. Why take chances, when you can choose to protect yourself? how many times have we saw, a son killed a mother, a friend shot dead his best friend,etc?people can be unpredictable. point is, better be safe now than sorry later.
@Mirewood to some point it is true. it is related to community background in one way or another..eg. in some places, people are okay with the idea of having their sisters, moms, friends, daughters involved in the sex industry. in some places, its okay knowing that your future wife have slept with too many guys. hell, in some places its okay to share wife with friends, and called it 'freedom'~~ so yeah, its truly depends on what the community wants you to be...
but unlike the animal world, which truly depends on what the community (eg monkey see other monkey climb tree...hence every monkey should climb tree...) perception of 'normal/acceptable social act' are, a religion on the other hand summons its followers to not act similar to the animal world, but act as a human which were created with powers of changing the fate of themselves..bestowed upon us, the ability to choose. the ability to protect or destroy. the ability to be a better person.~
try and deny, but we all know it better, freedom goes to a certain limit(which explains why everyone still needs privacy to a certain degree for example.because when you sell your privacy, you wont get it back.). as does everything else. it shouldnt be too little, or too much as well. it should be in balance, and balance is what religions trying to teach.
simply put, religion(Islam) are not community based. it suits any racial backgrounds of its followers.~ its is known since the old ages, people tends to hate changes. even though for good purposes. ignorance truly are the fuel of hate. and only when you start to learn will you ever see the true purposes.
Islam is a complete religion....its not just realtionships with God and people, it also includes in daily life...It have everything 4 anything...its not just about ''handshakes is a handshakes''....Islam even have the best ways of how do u sleep,eat, drink, talk to elders and also when u are i the toilet/bathroom...how to properly urinate and poop[defacate]....Islam got all that...
now,u commenters saying about relatiionships and connections between people...?
@Mirewood actually its not just about sexual...its about relationships...if ur wife or daughter shake hands with other men...u dont feel uncmfortable feeling?..mybe in ur community its normal... but in Islam community, its very and wrong...Men and women dont shakehands...they dont even mix up...men with men's group and women with women's...i deny it with kindness..says''sorry,i dont touch girls''..she'll feel cmfortble and believe i'll nver take advntge on her..
@kid9690 Dear kid9690, Islam is supposed to be the religion of reason. For men to get horny from a handshake is unreasonable at all. That's usually how you use reason to know which Hadiths are made up BS by some false scholars who go on a power trip to see how much they can control people using religion. I hope people think for themselves and not follow every absurd thing being told to them by people with beards. That's what we Muslims need.
@SalamSeeker I don't know what Robert Gift wrote. IF he expressed HIS opinion and it's different from yours, then you should respect his opinion. Be careful not to confuse "respect" with "agreement." Further, if you find something "offensive" you might want to consider that other people might NOT find it offensive. In the words of the late Christopher Hitchins, when someone told him he was offensive, he replied, "I'm still waiting for you to make a point."
@taylorkeng If you read down the comments you will find that I have no problem with people disagreeing with what I have said in the video. I let him comment freely until lines were crossed and I've deleted the comments that I've seen as insulting.
I moderate Muslims and non Muslims equally, I won't let lines be crossed on either side.
@SalamSeeker way to go,Salamseeker... i just about had it enough with him... people with no religion have absolutely no right at all to comment and say this is that and that is this...with all his 'myth' bullshit...Honestly, i feel sorry him so much..bcause Allah hasnt give him any hidayah..to open his heart to accept Islam.... :'(
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One myth debating another means nothing. They still remain myths.
@orchidswholesale FIRST,Allah is not a human@woman..he's The God..He's One and Only God....He's my Lord and actually your Lord too...u just dont know that.... He created us, human to worship Him and do His words...do what u've been told and leave everything that He prevents....
u people dont understand this bcause of the way u live...totally religionless..free..can do anything,everything,,whenever,whereever...
@robertgift its not a myth..u read ur bible?..in bible,its written in the last age, there 1 last mssenger will be sent...he is the last n seal of the prophet n messgers...He is Muhammad..UR BIBLE SAID THAT...
why females wear hair coverings?...it is 2 protect women themselves...from MALES...in US, women got raped on the street...and no one came to save her...say,mybe they enjoying themselves...u know..mybe,u think this is normal...lost vrginty b4 marrige,free sex,.. this is SICK..
@kid9690 No wasting time studying Bible or Qura'an -books of fairy tales and superstitions. Not gullible believing HIslam or any other MAN-made myth. No believing worthless rituals and sticking our butts up accomplishes anything.
My girlfriend, ex Muslim, is expert on HIslam, the "sick cult".
She stopped covering herself when Muslim men do not cover themselves.
Not reading the Qura'an and performing laughable rituals, she now has more time to do good!
1st: neither bible nor qur'an ?...what religion are u?...
2nd:ur gf is not an expert..she's just a poor bastard who cant live under rules....
3rd:Islam more concerns about the relationship with God, than among people... bcause when people die..he/she will leave everything,everyone on earth...
Last: yes, u will never even take a second look at covered women...the nun..the sisters at church..no one will give a second look...make sense?..
@robertgift Islam is not a myth...but is the real, most make sense religion....u dont anything about Islam... U dont have any right to say things like that..
how about u?.. are u christian?...who is your god?.. jesus or holy trinity..or santa claus?...i know about holy trinity is knda 3 in1 thing.... it is 3,but is 1 ..what's that?...it doesnt make any sense...
males dont wear hair coverings..its just sunnah(prophet Muhammad's done this)..
@robertgift In the time of dark ages when human are totally forgot why they r created,prophet are sent by...and that's included jesus christ...he's a prophet@messenger too....bcause of his miraculous birth..u christians took him as a son of god....
prophet are needed for what?..then tell me..how r this christian religion are coming from?..or born@made?..
if someone presents his hand to, that is a form of welcoming you, how can you deny his 'welcome' just for fear to end up in bed with him -_- yes, it IS just a handshake. I shaked many hands in my life, that never lead directly to sleeping with any women. I think that notion is so wrong in Islam, BUT i respect everyone's view.
I am muslims but seriously don't understand why women can't shake hands... why would someone want to keep those social barriers? to avoid any sort of temptation?? you know we as human beings aren't mindless freaks who have no moral values, on the contrary, societies have evolved substantially since they left the dark ages and religious superstition. No offense but you cannot communicate with people who don't show any personality or shake hands just to 'avoid' temptations....
@yougonasorry yes...to avoid temptations...to prevent free sex(zina= prohibited sexual rlationship,,,, sex b4 marriage,others couple's),
To protect women throughly...right from the start..bcause every introduction will begin with handshakes...that's why..
u r muslim..u MUst know this....are u born a Muslim or u revert?...if u revert,then ur believes should be higher than mine....im born already a muslim...
@kid9690 no you are absolutely wrong, a handshake does NOT automatically lead yo 'casual sex' if you want casual sex then you can get it without starting with handshakes. what i mean is this restriction of handshakes for women undermines their strength to resist temptation. It's like saying ,'well women cannot resist sex so let's just forbid any corporal contact with men and no men can look at a woman's hair'.. -_- like i said i shook many hands of women that DOESN'T lead to sex.
@kid9690 inliterally?? what are you talking about?? i refer you back to my last message, i reasonable person would perfectly understand my point, yet you only deny it out of pride of your religion, you know it doesn't make any sense and it completely undermines the strength of women to resist temptations. it treats them as if they were too weak to resist sex, so let's just hide them away from society in terms of physical contact. I respect other faiths but find that just weird...
Islam protects women...thay's why there are rules like this...you cant even touch them..you people asked why muslim women put on so much clothes?..why?..you want to see them half naked with a couples of clothes..they aint that cheap...
We are Human..the greatest creation...of course there are rules like that....and we..as human WITH BRAIN... think about it...
@kid9690 Amen, this is the true spirit... Muslim women are the most beautiful and sincere devoted women on the planet. They are the only women who love God, their parents, their children, their husbands, and they are the only decent women in the west. These people should feel guilty everytime they see a Muslim woman if there hearts do not turn towards God. When I see non-Muslim western women, I pray because instantly I have seen something I am not supposed to see. That is terrorism.
I'm tired of everything being sexualized. Men and women don't have to shake hands if they don't want to...but everything is looked at as so perverse. Like men can't control themselves so women have to cover everything cause wrists and ankles are very arousing.
U can say hello by not shaking the hand to the opposite sex becos shaking a woman's hand opens the door for shaytan or temptation to other venues. from shaking the hand it can be going out for drink and so on. so to stop all this avoiding a handshake all together is best. isnt that better? TRUE ISLAM HAS SOLUTION TO EVERY PROBLEM IN SOCIETY. ALLAHU-AKBAR
I'll be honest, you're the reason why I'm frustrated with religion. On top of poorly worded dogma instructing poor advice onto others for the things that make them different. People aren't perfect, (both sexes) and if God is responsible for the ensuing suffering, I'm left at a loss for words. Why would God make an imperfect soul destined for damnation? Isn't that cruel?
Mashallah this was excellent! She's not saying nothing bad, she's basically saying you'd rather be safe than sorry!! The shaytan can take over sometimes and one thing leads to another. I love this video. :))
Makes me wonder why a person would think that there would be any sexual impropriety in a hand shake, and as she has admitted, you can learn so much about the person you are engaging, why would you not do it ??
Salam, when you shake someones hand you present a hand to show that you are unarmed and mean no harm to the person. If this is the dominant culture where you live, you should respect it. Without this culture you would not have the freedom to choose or practice your faith.
@TheSulphyr you are clearly confused... since when did shaking hands become the law... as far as I know there is no law that says anybody must shake anybodies hands in any country... Thank Allah that law has not been passed.... and as I far as I know that America and parts of Europe are the only places in the world that make it so difficult to practice Islam... are you serious??? we are constantly bombarded with your trashy women which have no respect for human life by showing their indecency
@snizzlefrazzy well its kinda hard to explain by me, bcoz im not good with words, and im not a regular english language user nway. im just worried i might confuse you(or others) if i explain deeply on the topic~
@snizzlefrazzy however i will try to say it in a simple way, like many other things muslim girl does, like wearing hijab for example, it's really to give higher value to a woman. Let me give you an example, i have two chocolates in my hands, and i unwrap one of it. Now if i throw both of the chocolate on the ground, which one will you still want to put in your mouth?
@kamil198916 well, i don't eat anything off the ground anyway, wrapped or unwrapped. i still don't see why a friendly handshake just to introduce oneself is so wrong. about the hijab. maybe it's supposed to give higher value to women, but women in egypt, even the ones who wear the hijab, still have problems with being sexually harassed by men
@snizzlefrazzy just to make it clear, we do not hate handshakes. I personally shake hands now and then. The only thing is, we dont shakes between opposite gender. that's all. So yeah, i meet my brother i handshake, i meet my teacher, i handshake, so on n so forth. but not with the opposite sex, unless its my family members. So no, we dont banned handshake at all. we only put limits.
so why the limits you might ask? well, its kinda like the reason we have two different public washroom out there. why do we not share male and female toilet together? think about it. does we separate the toilet because we want to oppress women? or men?
like everything else in this world, simply because you wear hijab, doesnt mean you are 'invincible' or invisible for that matter. Yes,you might still be harassed, you will still died if a car hit you, you still grow old while wearing hijab. I am not sure how to say this correctly so that no one misunderstood the meaning,em,maybe its like this, u still use umbrella even you know it wont completely prevent you from getting wet. but u used it nonetheless because it does protect to a certain level
and having police doesn't stops crime, but it does provide safety to some limit to the community.Living in a place without policeman for example, will make you feel unsafe right? its kinda like giving a sense of security to the wearer of hijab in a way.
@snizzlefrazzy are you a guy? i mean, normal guy? if so, i believed you would be no different than the rest of guys(normal) in this world. You must at some point, have watch a sexy girl, and wish you can do her. right? well, hijab were meant to help man avoid this kind of thoughts. Yep, help man. It helps man to control lust. Hijab is simply not for the sake of protecting women, but also men.
@kamil198916 btw, why does the woman have to be responsible for a mans lust? why can't the men practice a little self-discipline and control their own lust? just because a woman doesn't have her hair covered doesn't mean that the men have to jizz themselves. am i to understand that every time a muslim man does something bad, it's the woman's fault?
sorry i cant reply sooner. well, i personally think we are all responsible of each other, not just ourself. dont you think so? i mean, in every other aspects as well, we are either directly or indirectly responsible for each other. It's what makes us human as a whole, in my opinion. Why would someone help somebody who are in trouble, if its not our nature as human beings that tells us to. That is to take care of other human beings, directly, indirectly.
Imagine, a house is on fire, then the firefighters came and say, "why must i be responsible for that? OMG, why can't people put a little effort and practice safe use of fire?!?!"...well, in real world, unexpected things happened. Things that sometimes we do it without fully aware of the consequences for example. Say, can a drunk guy keep himself at bay? What about desperate people?
Now, as i said before, concerning hijab/veil/etc. the practice of it by woman, HELPS man to control lust, as one of the benefit of that practice towards the community. I dont think it's relevant to say that it's woman's fault whenever a muslim guy do wrong. Okay, in a way it's like taking vitamins, which HELPS strengthens our health. I mean, i could practice healthy lifestyle but should I blame the vitamins, if I got sick one day? I personally don't think i should.
So likewise, it's not relevant to blame someone who is helping you. and certainly Islam dont blame one gender for another gender's misconduct, nor an individual over another individual's crime. Islam is fair, which is both beautiful and just. Only those who transgress will be convict of being guilty and put on trial.
@snizzlefrazzy i dont know why my replies dont end up stickin with your comment but somehow they are up there...i wish i can do something bout that....
@snizzlefrazzy one more thing to be clear, Hijab is not compulsory for muslim women. Hijab is merely an object. What the religion ask of its women is to simply cover up Aurah/certain part of the body(read more on this if you desire) regardless of what object that is, but of course relevant items only. And hijab is just one ideal item that helps muslim women carry on with the task. So no, hijab is not compulsory, but since it does the job well, hence wearing it are preferable by musliim women.
@TheSulphyr What are you doing carrying a weapon in the first place, and if it is a warzone then how many female militant army regimes are you aware of lol?
@84WAKEUP you said women covering their hair cuts them off from society so i asked you what does the male public have to be able to see when looking at a woman for her to be part of society?
@thefivestarboss i meant only gang members and thieves cover their head in public like ppl could rob a bank with covering their face in society if u cant see a persons face is very rude i think where u can never see the person u r talking to no offence but i simply dnt get the point what if u need a photo id u will say only my husband can see my face besides majority dnt follow islam the right way i discuss this with my friends they understand. sikhs n muslims r being troubled in france.
@thefivestarboss it is not accepted in today society to cover ur face and walk around besides even women can look at a mans face and be sexually attracted why then dnt men cover their face where is the equality of wait is it not written in quran oh my mistake see what i mean.
@honestmuslim1 I heard scholars telling the most stupidist thing on earth.Like a woman obey her husband when he calls for intimacy of the angels will curse until the morning.Or,the prophet tortured people or so and so.
I think Allah gave me a brain and I don't need crazy people to think for me.
@SithSereyPheap1 Then in cases like that in which it's a life or death situation, it's perfectly fine and permissible to touch or hold the hand(s) of a person of the opposite gender that is not mehram to you so that you may save their life.
I don't know much if they do nowdays... but when I grew up in Malaysia in the village in stronghold of Islamic heartland, men and women do shakehands ..
the women used their scarves to cover their hands and happily shake hands.
Alhamdulillah Sister Welcome to Islam, Insha Allah will meet in Heave. But remeber every seed that dies after plucking it from tree grow back again from earth (who gives life back to this seed after its death) similarly we will be raised here after And Allah says in Quraan that it is not difficult to Allah to raise us again after death.
Alhamdulillah Sister Welcome to Islam, Insha Allah will meet in Heave. But remeber every seed that dies after plucking it from tree grow back again from earth (who gives life back to this seed after its death) similarly we will be raised here after And Allah says in Quraan that it is not difficult to Allah to raise us again after death.
Handshakes are there to show trust and acceptance. If you refuse handshakes you show distrust. This is why a handshake is such a staple in business interactions between partners: they show trust of each other. What do you show to people when you demonstratively refuse this symbol of trust not as a WOMAN but as a human being?
@SalamSeeker that's not a handshake either it's a rescue shake! i think it might be hard for non muslims to accept differences in culture but they have to try harder. i dont really see the big deal in not shaking womens hands, what harm is there to british society. many muslims with beards bigger than my manly stuble work hard and are very productive whilst practising islam.if anything it makes them more efficient.tablighi jamaat is the best way to wise up and learn communication skills for work
Wonderful, wonderful video. Absolutely fantastic !!! Only an ignorant fool who is full of lust and empty of any respect for women will argue with your impregnable points. Keep up the great work.
How could Allah be so cruel to me,to deprive me of the beautiful colour of your hair.I take it that you're not a brunette or a blonde.Your eye brows appeared to be reddish brown,i gathered that you're a red head or a brown hair.Close enough ?
It is also western culture to smile and say hello to people on the streets, how many times in a day do we come across people within society who do not do that, cause they don't feel like it. I am surprised that so many people had their hair raised when I find most people won't even smile. Anyway just wanted to say mashaAllah and JazakAllah Khair for posting this. May Allah(swt) guide you always and protect you. Also those "what ifs" are kinda funny. What if?????......
Salamu Alaykum sister, mashaAllah. May Allah(swt) reward you for putting yourself out there. Seems you have gotten a lot of responses on this subject. All over shaking hands, subhanAllah. Islam does not bend for culture, there is nothing in western society that says you must shake someones hand. Religious Freedom however does prevail. You one truly is an opened minded person to religious freedoms as most people proclaim it shouldn't have to be viewed as an insult. .
I dont find handshakes to be sexual in any way shape or form. I feel this is one of those things that creates more tension than it eases, and it is considered extremely rude. It is like someone saying hello, and you don't say anything and simply ignore them. RUDE! You could do well by studying the Japanese. They modernized very quickly, but kept the key fundamental values of their culture. such as respect for people older than you, the pursuit of knowledge, and putting the group before self
Learn more about Islam and you will find the answer to all those questions you posted. Islam is really the way of life you know... the only way of life.
Let suppose we're stranded in the middle of the sahara desert and you got one bad leg and you're limping on a crutch,and all the sudden a mad camel came out of nowhere and he's on the attack.Is it permissable for me to pick you up and run or let you crutch along and get stomp to death by a mad camel ?
Let suppose you have only one good hand left,you lost one during an israelis bombing.Anyway lets suppose i'm a tourist and i happened to run into you and your good hand is badly cut and it's bleeding,i want to apply some bandaid for you,but it require that i touch your hand.is that permissable or not ? haraam or halal ?
Let suppose you sat on a piece of log to have lunch and an indian cobra came out of nowhere and bit you in the arse cheek,should i let you die or should i suck out the vemon ?
Let suppose the king of beast the lion is chasing us as we walk and talk in the forest,we ran for our life and i ran for the tree and quickly climbed up for safety,but you on the other hand couldn't climb the tree,should i extend the helping hand to pull you up or let the lion devour you down below ?
Lets supposed i'm a jungle boy,a savage from the wild forest,who knew nothing about Allah or the law of the Qaran,and i'm just full of love and affaction,i laid eyes on you and instantly i follow my natural instinct and i ran over to hug you at first sight.Will i be beheaded for such an act of affection ? will you have an ignorant cave man beheaded or stone to death ?
A handshake is a sign of respect and trust. Not a sign that everyone you shake hands with will try and defile you. Western society sees the handshake as the initial form of greeting, a sign of business closure and it is extremely important for anyone trying to succeed in any form of business to have a proper handshake. A handshake with a woman is different than a handshake with a man obviously. But the most concern that can be rationally attributed to a handshake is the spread of bacteria.
@novasigma Okay, thanks for telling the truth. As I said before, it does not concern you being a non-Muslim on the Islamic Jurisprudence of hand shaking. Whether your personal belief makes it seem 'petty and childish' or not does not phase us at all. To the 1 billion Muslims who follow the religion of Islam and the teachings of their prophet shaking hands is not permitted. So shutup, your argument is going no where. Your opinion on the matter changes nothing.
Why not just accept diversity in the population? Is that not what the values of the western world encourage i.e freedom of expression and religion etc If you think it's so rude to not accept a handshake, just refrain from extending it-problem solved.
@Muslimah4321 A handshake is important in matters of business and I pride myself on having a great handshake. Firm yet gentile, confidence yet compassion. If you want to participate in most forms of western business (or even just good business dealings) a good handshake is a must. It evokes trust and greeting to those you meet and familiarity and grounding with those you know. I have had bosses where every day you started work, you started with a handshake. Best boss ever.
@InfiniteTurtles To the people complaining that it is 'bad manners etc' I have a question for you? Who makes up these social expectations and rules? Are they not dynamic by nature and ever changing? Who is to say that shaking hands is the 'right thing to do'? The argument that when in Rome do as the Romans do is also obsolete. I'm sure if you travelled to Rome and the norm there was to go to the shops nude, you would not follow suit. Stop with the imperialistic mindset.
The imperialistic mindset would be the exact opposite of saying when in Rome do as the Romans do. It would be the mindset that your culture and beliefs should supersede the cultural norms of the society in which you are living. That is imperialism. It is true that social values and expectations are constantly evolving, but the handshake is currently a universal greeting in Western society. Refusing a handshake is antisocial and rude.
@novasigma I think you have the definition of imperialism a bit muddled up there. Imperialism is associated with power; minority cultural groups hold little power in their host society and cant possibly be attributed to practising 'imperialism'. @novasigma
I think you have the definition of imperialism a bit muddled up there. Imperialism is associated with power; minority cultural groups hold little power in their host society and cant possibly be attributed to practising 'imperialism' contin..
When the Roman Empire conquered foreign lands they imposed Roman cultural values on the indigenous populations because they believed them to be superior. The British Empire did the exact same thing. Imperialism is about placing your own values and beliefs above all else, and thereby imposing those beliefs on everyone else. That is what happens when you refuse to shake hands with someone. Just like a Westerner refusing to bow in Japan because of his belief that bowing = submission
@novasigma I understand your point and I actually typed out a whole response but for some reason YT has not shown it up. Romans did impose their values on others because they could i.e after conquering those lands they had the power to do so. My point is you can use the Romans as an analogy for your argument because minority cultural groups do NOT have the power to impose their values on everyone else in western society and hence can't be thought of as practising 'imperialism' as such. contin...
..When you say that refusing a handshake as 'antisocial and rude', I say that forcing others to accept a handshake is being rude and intolerant. Why is it that you think that only the western world can set the rules for everyone else? FYI according to current western social etiquette it is considered rude for a gentleman to offer a handshake to a woman before she offers.
But they ARE imposing their values on everyone else if they refuse a handshake. I can assure you that refusing to accept a handshake is a direct insult to the person offering it. Since the handshake is a universal greeting, and refusing it is considered inappropriate by western cultural standards, a failure to accept a handshake is a blatant example of forcing your own values on everyone. The only "power" needed is the ability to refrain from shaking hands!
I don't think that the western world should set the rules for everyone else, but I do think that those living in the western world should abide by its basic cultural practices. Just like those living in the Arab world should abide by their customs. It is a simple fact that in western business/politics/etc, a handshake is a normal way to greet someone. I've never seen a Muslim refuse my handshake; that's why I believe that she (SalamSeeker) represents a minority opinion.
@Muslimah4321 I would not expect a handshake in your part of the world necessarily. I of course would respect the local traditions. Here in the western world. It is expected. Shove intolerance. Its just an excuse to put up another social block to prevent members from branching off. Shame on those who preach against intolerance then shelter themselves from every other culture in the world. No handshake, no job, no business. Plain as that.
very good sister...you are doing a very nice Job...keep it Up...May Allah keep you on this right path till your last Breath...And Lead you to Jannah..Aameen
I think it's a bit extreme, I mean how far will you go to separate the sexes? Why be so ackward and extreme? A handshake is just a handshake not sex! Your pushing this way too far and your only making an explanation for it because it is what you believe. why do you believe in such falsehood religion anyway?
Mashallah Sister you make us proud! Ignore the ones who have to much time on their hands and are here to spread their disgust. But Sister it is very hard to not accept a handshake these days. When I see a woman I say hello by putting my hands on my chest and nod saying hello, but sometimes they reach out and when I ignore it or explain why they get angry. Also does this rule apply to all woman? What about cousins and aunts, etc.
And I wouldn't shake your hand because you are ugly, sick and brainwashed.
attozes 1 week ago
Your faith is sick.
attozes 1 week ago
Auch aye - that's the Scots for yi
anniemaggie53 1 week ago
So later came the test, and i failed it. When this happened, do you think its appropiate for me to blame my friend for the helps he had gave me when doing homeworks? Should i blame my friends whenever i failed a test? Nope, i personally don't think that's wise. Sure, his help wasn't much, and i ended up not getting good score for the test, but, it was my own fault for not having done my best during the test and didn't take it seriously. After all, all he did was helping me to become better.
kamil198916 1 month ago
Lets give another example, let say a friend help me in my class, to do some homework. That friend helped me because he believed that friends take care of each other. "Sharing is caring", he said. I myself can just make sure i have good discipline and try to be an awesome student, but of course that doesn't mean i have to be selfish and not welcome help from fellow classmates. After all, who knows, my friend might just know that something which i don't.
kamil198916 1 month ago
Well done sister :)
FazerMuzic 1 month ago
Oh wow. I guess if a germ phobic person dosnt want to shake hands then its ok for people not to for religious reasons as well, its pretty much the same from what I can tell
hughheggen 1 month ago
Its hard cause that we are used to,its gonna take allot of disipline even with family members to do..
NaBjE11 1 month ago
@NaBjE11 where there's a will, there's a way~
kamil198916 1 month ago
@kamil198916 easer said then done, if you refuse a hand they might think you are extrem or unfriendly.
NaBjE11 1 month ago
so in other words, handshake is more of showing intimacy/closeness/friendliness and not being hostile right? we do shake hands between same gender and we do it because of the same same reason, being friendly. however, the religion put limit on who you can shake hands with(or any other form of touch). We all dont shake hands excessively, press to hard, etc. right? its manners and we are not against handshake, bur rather inserting extra manner in handshakes.we loves handshake too. :)
kamil198916 1 month ago
afterall, dont man hold a woman hands to show intimacy? in pretty much every picture of spouses, they will hold hands. so this intimacy was not meant for unmarried couples, so islam put a limit on who you can touch so that intimacy is preserved exclusively for married couples. One thing will always lead to another some would say. Accept that not everyone is able to withhold their lust if living without these limitation.
kamil198916 1 month ago
Just some extra notes, some sources says its okay to handshake between man and women, as long as there is no skin to skin contact. Since it was not the handshake that is forbidden, but the showing of Aurah and skin to skin contact between two different gender that matters.
kamil198916 1 month ago
need i remind you, that these 'procedures' are all but to aid in meeting the task that islam have asked of its followers. It might not be ultimate solution for every problem, It might not entirely stops other people from taking advantage of u, nor might it protects u from all bad people. But prevention is always better than cure. Its worth trying to protect yourself than not trying at all. Bad things only stops if people are willing to understand each other and have respect to one another.
kamil198916 1 month ago
likewise, handshake doesnt always guarantee the other one not being hostile or of bad intention. Leaders shake hands and still they wage war on each other. Handshake doesnt always lead towards lust, but if it does at least true muslim women are protected. Just so you know, some muslim women will reply to your handshake(if they must, like when doing business/trade) by putting one hand on their opposite shoulder and nodding.This is common in hotels at my place when the girls greet their guest.
kamil198916 1 month ago
have you been to hotels at thailand or indonesia? they dont shake hands, they greet by putting their palms together. since it is their culture to do that, hence i notice muslim women there also greet in the same manner instead of handshake.. point is, while some might prefer handshake, is also better to respect other way of greetings as well and not putting handshake as the one standard tool of greeting and showing you are unarmed.
kamil198916 1 month ago
@kamil198916 i gues you are right ,its still strange but does it say anything about it in the koran also
NaBjE11 1 month ago
Yes, one has no idea where the hand or its fingers have gone. Possibly it was picking a nose or maybe . . . .
pmoyer50 1 month ago
u r a great girl...
eisamustafa 1 month ago
Assalamualaikum...perfectly said sister...syaitan had made a promise to Allah to 'divert' as many men and women from true path till the last day.Always ask for HIS forgiveness as we are not immune to make mistake...
hujangweh 1 month ago
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Great information sites and thank you for the info, but every shake is a haram that in that sense is a bad fitanah young men, I love the modesty, i would just like to leave the sites or info.
UT5000 2 months ago
Superstitions, rituals and ancient traditions. Is this religion really fit for the 21st century?
StopSpamming1 2 months ago
@StopSpamming1 These Millions of hadiths are very idk... to be stabbed in the hand?
If you have sexual feelings over a hand well then we have a problem..
Where does it say in the Quran? i personally do not believe in the sunnah because theres SOOOO MANY hadiths that make no sense. 76 virgins? black hair dye? common Allah sent down his book in perfect form
YildizOsmanli 2 months ago
@YildizOsmanli
You are right. But without the Sunnah we can't understand the Koran, because it is so badly written.
And does the Koran really make sense? Thunder, clay, steaks, barriers, mountains, angels, jinn, heavens, rain, iron, hell, etc etc
StopSpamming1 2 months ago
Exhibitionism = desire or compulsion to expose parts of one's body (
Zoophilia = practice of sexual activity between humans and non-human animals (bestiality)
Sexual fetishism = the sexual arousal a person receives from a physical object, or from a specific situation.
Partialism = Arousal from a particular body part. (eg, feet, hands, neck)
And after seeing all of these, why does it not make sense, for my sister, or other muslim girls for that matter, go by protecting themselves?
kamil198916 1 month ago
can you really tell who is normal, and not just by seeing them a couple of time? who knows what people are really like, their dark secrets. Why take chances, when you can choose to protect yourself? how many times have we saw, a son killed a mother, a friend shot dead his best friend,etc?people can be unpredictable. point is, better be safe now than sorry later.
kamil198916 1 month ago
@Mirewood to some point it is true. it is related to community background in one way or another..eg. in some places, people are okay with the idea of having their sisters, moms, friends, daughters involved in the sex industry. in some places, its okay knowing that your future wife have slept with too many guys. hell, in some places its okay to share wife with friends, and called it 'freedom'~~ so yeah, its truly depends on what the community wants you to be...
kamil198916 2 months ago
but unlike the animal world, which truly depends on what the community (eg monkey see other monkey climb tree...hence every monkey should climb tree...) perception of 'normal/acceptable social act' are, a religion on the other hand summons its followers to not act similar to the animal world, but act as a human which were created with powers of changing the fate of themselves..bestowed upon us, the ability to choose. the ability to protect or destroy. the ability to be a better person.~
kamil198916 2 months ago
try and deny, but we all know it better, freedom goes to a certain limit(which explains why everyone still needs privacy to a certain degree for example.because when you sell your privacy, you wont get it back.). as does everything else. it shouldnt be too little, or too much as well. it should be in balance, and balance is what religions trying to teach.
kamil198916 2 months ago
simply put, religion(Islam) are not community based. it suits any racial backgrounds of its followers.~ its is known since the old ages, people tends to hate changes. even though for good purposes. ignorance truly are the fuel of hate. and only when you start to learn will you ever see the true purposes.
kamil198916 2 months ago
Islam is a complete religion....its not just realtionships with God and people, it also includes in daily life...It have everything 4 anything...its not just about ''handshakes is a handshakes''....Islam even have the best ways of how do u sleep,eat, drink, talk to elders and also when u are i the toilet/bathroom...how to properly urinate and poop[defacate]....Islam got all that...
now,u commenters saying about relatiionships and connections between people...?
Islam got a lot more than that...
kid9690 2 months ago
@Mirewood ''sorry,i dont touch girls''.... girls in this are not mahram girls
mhram is people u prohibited to marry like ur mom,sisters,auntties,etc..
kid9690 2 months ago
@Mirewood actually its not just about sexual...its about relationships...if ur wife or daughter shake hands with other men...u dont feel uncmfortable feeling?..mybe in ur community its normal... but in Islam community, its very and wrong...Men and women dont shakehands...they dont even mix up...men with men's group and women with women's...i deny it with kindness..says''sorry,i dont touch girls''..she'll feel cmfortble and believe i'll nver take advntge on her..
kid9690 2 months ago
so, a handshake is forbidden? what next? will it be forbidden for unrelated men and women to breathe the same air?
snizzlefrazzy 2 months ago
Honestly, I think this is going overboard by many Muslims. As a muslim, it strikes me as being pretentious.
A handshake is a handshake, which is harmless. I can't find a definitive proof that
hamidious 2 months ago
@hamidious u want any proof?...watch the video again and again...and think about every words literally and unliterally..
kid9690 2 months ago
@kid9690 Dear kid9690, Islam is supposed to be the religion of reason. For men to get horny from a handshake is unreasonable at all. That's usually how you use reason to know which Hadiths are made up BS by some false scholars who go on a power trip to see how much they can control people using religion. I hope people think for themselves and not follow every absurd thing being told to them by people with beards. That's what we Muslims need.
hamidious 1 month ago
robertgift has been blocked for being unneccesarily insulting.
An opinion can be an opinion, however we will not be allowing comments which outright disrespect our Prophet or Religion.
Voice your comments politely, calmly and in an intelligent fashion or the privilege will be taken from you.
This goes for both Muslims and Non Muslims.
You do not need to agree with me or my views, but I expect everyone to remain respectful of each other.
SalamSeeker 2 months ago 11
@SalamSeeker I don't know what Robert Gift wrote. IF he expressed HIS opinion and it's different from yours, then you should respect his opinion. Be careful not to confuse "respect" with "agreement." Further, if you find something "offensive" you might want to consider that other people might NOT find it offensive. In the words of the late Christopher Hitchins, when someone told him he was offensive, he replied, "I'm still waiting for you to make a point."
taylorkeng 2 months ago
@taylorkeng If you read down the comments you will find that I have no problem with people disagreeing with what I have said in the video. I let him comment freely until lines were crossed and I've deleted the comments that I've seen as insulting.
I moderate Muslims and non Muslims equally, I won't let lines be crossed on either side.
SalamSeeker 2 months ago 8
@SalamSeeker way to go,Salamseeker... i just about had it enough with him... people with no religion have absolutely no right at all to comment and say this is that and that is this...with all his 'myth' bullshit...Honestly, i feel sorry him so much..bcause Allah hasnt give him any hidayah..to open his heart to accept Islam.... :'(
kid9690 2 months ago
FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO TALKED BAD ABOUT ISLAM WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT IT...SEARCH FOR THIS = Famous Muslim Christian debate Is Jesus God [Ahmed Deedat vs Anis Shorrosh]
kid9690 2 months ago
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One myth debating another means nothing. They still remain myths.
robertgift 2 months ago
@orchidswholesale FIRST,Allah is not a human@woman..he's The God..He's One and Only God....He's my Lord and actually your Lord too...u just dont know that.... He created us, human to worship Him and do His words...do what u've been told and leave everything that He prevents....
u people dont understand this bcause of the way u live...totally religionless..free..can do anything,everything,,whenever,whereever...
kid9690 2 months ago
@black00dice yeah?..what religion are u?..
muslim calendar started in 623M....
Masihi(jan-dis) based on Jesus's birthday...of course its earlier than Hijr(muslim's calendar)...
Masihi based on sun's movement..Hijr based on moon's ...
i bet u dont know that...then,why dont u just keep ur trap shut...and go away..
kid9690 2 months ago
@robertgift its not a myth..u read ur bible?..in bible,its written in the last age, there 1 last mssenger will be sent...he is the last n seal of the prophet n messgers...He is Muhammad..UR BIBLE SAID THAT...
why females wear hair coverings?...it is 2 protect women themselves...from MALES...in US, women got raped on the street...and no one came to save her...say,mybe they enjoying themselves...u know..mybe,u think this is normal...lost vrginty b4 marrige,free sex,.. this is SICK..
kid9690 2 months ago
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@kid9690 No wasting time studying Bible or Qura'an -books of fairy tales and superstitions. Not gullible believing HIslam or any other MAN-made myth. No believing worthless rituals and sticking our butts up accomplishes anything.
My girlfriend, ex Muslim, is expert on HIslam, the "sick cult".
She stopped covering herself when Muslim men do not cover themselves.
Not reading the Qura'an and performing laughable rituals, she now has more time to do good!
Covering prevents rapes?
robertgift 2 months ago
@robertgift
1st: neither bible nor qur'an ?...what religion are u?...
2nd:ur gf is not an expert..she's just a poor bastard who cant live under rules....
3rd:Islam more concerns about the relationship with God, than among people... bcause when people die..he/she will leave everything,everyone on earth...
Last: yes, u will never even take a second look at covered women...the nun..the sisters at church..no one will give a second look...make sense?..
kid9690 2 months ago
@kid9690 Thank you.
1: All religions are man-made myths. I believe none.
2: She is very intelligent, discerning, articulate, formerly devout Muslim who knows HIslam very well. No problem living under the rules.
3: Understood. Thank you.
4: Makesense to you but does not matter to rapists. Muslim rapists?
She uncovered, not to boast her beauty, but to be free of the absurd burden.
She dressed modestly and looked wonderful.
robertgift 2 months ago
@robertgift 1: then u have no right to comment...beat it..
2:no,she's not..if she is...she's still a Muslimah..and she'll leave u..
4: mybe there's muslim rapists...but the one inviting rapes are uncoverd women..u're a guy..u know that.
5:yeah? u ever have sex with her?. bcause if she's covered..u're not gonna hve sex with her...u dont even hve any rlationship with her..
that's why i said ...''Islam protecs women''...women's modesty,women's pride,women's nature..
kid9690 2 months ago
@robertgift Islam is not a myth...but is the real, most make sense religion....u dont anything about Islam... U dont have any right to say things like that..
how about u?.. are u christian?...who is your god?.. jesus or holy trinity..or santa claus?...i know about holy trinity is knda 3 in1 thing.... it is 3,but is 1 ..what's that?...it doesnt make any sense...
males dont wear hair coverings..its just sunnah(prophet Muhammad's done this)..
kid9690 2 months ago
@kid9690 responds: "Islam ... is the real, most make sense religion"
The Mormon religion makes FAR more sense than HIslam. Does that make it true?
It is also a cult.
HIslam is a MAN-made myth like every other religion.
One need not waste time studying the Qura'an to know it is myth.
A discerning, intelligent person can already know that the concept of a prophet is ridiculous.
A prophet is needed for what?
One can already know that rituals are worthless. What do rituals accomplish?
robertgift 2 months ago
@robertgift In the time of dark ages when human are totally forgot why they r created,prophet are sent by...and that's included jesus christ...he's a prophet@messenger too....bcause of his miraculous birth..u christians took him as a son of god....
prophet are needed for what?..then tell me..how r this christian religion are coming from?..or born@made?..
kid9690 2 months ago
@kid9690 Thank you.
Prophets are fakes. They are not needed. Their proclamations are unneeded.
What is ONE thing a prophet has proclaimed which man has not already known in his wonderful mind and heart and conscience?
robertgift 2 months ago
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if someone presents his hand to, that is a form of welcoming you, how can you deny his 'welcome' just for fear to end up in bed with him -_- yes, it IS just a handshake. I shaked many hands in my life, that never lead directly to sleeping with any women. I think that notion is so wrong in Islam, BUT i respect everyone's view.
yougonasorry 2 months ago
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I am muslims but seriously don't understand why women can't shake hands... why would someone want to keep those social barriers? to avoid any sort of temptation?? you know we as human beings aren't mindless freaks who have no moral values, on the contrary, societies have evolved substantially since they left the dark ages and religious superstition. No offense but you cannot communicate with people who don't show any personality or shake hands just to 'avoid' temptations....
yougonasorry 2 months ago
@yougonasorry yes...to avoid temptations...to prevent free sex(zina= prohibited sexual rlationship,,,, sex b4 marriage,others couple's),
To protect women throughly...right from the start..bcause every introduction will begin with handshakes...that's why..
u r muslim..u MUst know this....are u born a Muslim or u revert?...if u revert,then ur believes should be higher than mine....im born already a muslim...
kid9690 2 months ago
@kid9690 no you are absolutely wrong, a handshake does NOT automatically lead yo 'casual sex' if you want casual sex then you can get it without starting with handshakes. what i mean is this restriction of handshakes for women undermines their strength to resist temptation. It's like saying ,'well women cannot resist sex so let's just forbid any corporal contact with men and no men can look at a woman's hair'.. -_- like i said i shook many hands of women that DOESN'T lead to sex.
yougonasorry 2 months ago
@yougonasorry no,think about inliterally...
kid9690 2 months ago
@kid9690 inliterally?? what are you talking about?? i refer you back to my last message, i reasonable person would perfectly understand my point, yet you only deny it out of pride of your religion, you know it doesn't make any sense and it completely undermines the strength of women to resist temptations. it treats them as if they were too weak to resist sex, so let's just hide them away from society in terms of physical contact. I respect other faiths but find that just weird...
yougonasorry 2 months ago
mashallah sister may allah bless you
MegaMohammedmiah 2 months ago
Islam protects women...thay's why there are rules like this...you cant even touch them..you people asked why muslim women put on so much clothes?..why?..you want to see them half naked with a couples of clothes..they aint that cheap...
We are Human..the greatest creation...of course there are rules like that....and we..as human WITH BRAIN... think about it...
kid9690 2 months ago
@kid9690 Amen, this is the true spirit... Muslim women are the most beautiful and sincere devoted women on the planet. They are the only women who love God, their parents, their children, their husbands, and they are the only decent women in the west. These people should feel guilty everytime they see a Muslim woman if there hearts do not turn towards God. When I see non-Muslim western women, I pray because instantly I have seen something I am not supposed to see. That is terrorism.
mattahaisha 2 months ago 2
@mattahaisha you can love God, your parents, children, spouse, etc. without being a muslim
snizzlefrazzy 2 months ago
I'm tired of everything being sexualized. Men and women don't have to shake hands if they don't want to...but everything is looked at as so perverse. Like men can't control themselves so women have to cover everything cause wrists and ankles are very arousing.
Em183 2 months ago
A handshake is just, a handshake.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
You have some good insights.
UDIEIGIGGLE 2 months ago
You won't greet my sister eh????? Give me the needle!!!!!!
PaperHeroProductions 2 months ago
U can say hello by not shaking the hand to the opposite sex becos shaking a woman's hand opens the door for shaytan or temptation to other venues. from shaking the hand it can be going out for drink and so on. so to stop all this avoiding a handshake all together is best. isnt that better? TRUE ISLAM HAS SOLUTION TO EVERY PROBLEM IN SOCIETY. ALLAHU-AKBAR
wegge2008 3 months ago
I'll be honest, you're the reason why I'm frustrated with religion. On top of poorly worded dogma instructing poor advice onto others for the things that make them different. People aren't perfect, (both sexes) and if God is responsible for the ensuing suffering, I'm left at a loss for words. Why would God make an imperfect soul destined for damnation? Isn't that cruel?
JuanIII 3 months ago
This and covering yourself up from tip to toe are just ways for "Muslims" to escape facing temptations in which they must fallow Gods laws.
What do you think the point with the laws are, if it isn't to be tested and prove that your faith is stronger?
upuup 3 months ago
you're retarded.
kerron68 3 months ago
@kerron68 Are you retarded?
ZagiEscobar 3 months ago
God bless you.
mmahfoud19 3 months ago
Thank you.....you are correct,
bakermot 3 months ago
Mashallah this was excellent! She's not saying nothing bad, she's basically saying you'd rather be safe than sorry!! The shaytan can take over sometimes and one thing leads to another. I love this video. :))
nnagi96 3 months ago
Makes me wonder why a person would think that there would be any sexual impropriety in a hand shake, and as she has admitted, you can learn so much about the person you are engaging, why would you not do it ??
mrdanengland 3 months ago
Sister, these points are so great.
Thank you so much, it has been helpful.
May Allah swt bless u, ameen.
BosniaOurHomeland 3 months ago
Salam, when you shake someones hand you present a hand to show that you are unarmed and mean no harm to the person. If this is the dominant culture where you live, you should respect it. Without this culture you would not have the freedom to choose or practice your faith.
TheSulphyr 3 months ago 10
@TheSulphyr you are clearly confused... since when did shaking hands become the law... as far as I know there is no law that says anybody must shake anybodies hands in any country... Thank Allah that law has not been passed.... and as I far as I know that America and parts of Europe are the only places in the world that make it so difficult to practice Islam... are you serious??? we are constantly bombarded with your trashy women which have no respect for human life by showing their indecency
mattahaisha 2 months ago
@mattahaisha and yet, muslims keep continue to immigrate to europe and america for some reason. feel free to leave
snizzlefrazzy 2 months ago
@snizzlefrazzy for some reason. reasons you dont quite understand yourself.
kamil198916 2 months ago
@kamil198916 i guess i don't understand. i don't understand what's wrong with a handshake. oh well
snizzlefrazzy 2 months ago
@snizzlefrazzy well its kinda hard to explain by me, bcoz im not good with words, and im not a regular english language user nway. im just worried i might confuse you(or others) if i explain deeply on the topic~
kamil198916 1 month ago
@snizzlefrazzy however i will try to say it in a simple way, like many other things muslim girl does, like wearing hijab for example, it's really to give higher value to a woman. Let me give you an example, i have two chocolates in my hands, and i unwrap one of it. Now if i throw both of the chocolate on the ground, which one will you still want to put in your mouth?
kamil198916 1 month ago
@kamil198916 well, i don't eat anything off the ground anyway, wrapped or unwrapped. i still don't see why a friendly handshake just to introduce oneself is so wrong. about the hijab. maybe it's supposed to give higher value to women, but women in egypt, even the ones who wear the hijab, still have problems with being sexually harassed by men
snizzlefrazzy 1 month ago
@snizzlefrazzy just to make it clear, we do not hate handshakes. I personally shake hands now and then. The only thing is, we dont shakes between opposite gender. that's all. So yeah, i meet my brother i handshake, i meet my teacher, i handshake, so on n so forth. but not with the opposite sex, unless its my family members. So no, we dont banned handshake at all. we only put limits.
kamil198916 1 month ago
so why the limits you might ask? well, its kinda like the reason we have two different public washroom out there. why do we not share male and female toilet together? think about it. does we separate the toilet because we want to oppress women? or men?
kamil198916 1 month ago
like everything else in this world, simply because you wear hijab, doesnt mean you are 'invincible' or invisible for that matter. Yes,you might still be harassed, you will still died if a car hit you, you still grow old while wearing hijab. I am not sure how to say this correctly so that no one misunderstood the meaning,em,maybe its like this, u still use umbrella even you know it wont completely prevent you from getting wet. but u used it nonetheless because it does protect to a certain level
kamil198916 1 month ago
and having police doesn't stops crime, but it does provide safety to some limit to the community.Living in a place without policeman for example, will make you feel unsafe right? its kinda like giving a sense of security to the wearer of hijab in a way.
kamil198916 1 month ago
@snizzlefrazzy are you a guy? i mean, normal guy? if so, i believed you would be no different than the rest of guys(normal) in this world. You must at some point, have watch a sexy girl, and wish you can do her. right? well, hijab were meant to help man avoid this kind of thoughts. Yep, help man. It helps man to control lust. Hijab is simply not for the sake of protecting women, but also men.
kamil198916 1 month ago
im sorry if you are underage and dont understand what i just said above....i hope not. You are a dude right?
kamil198916 1 month ago
@kamil198916 i'm a female
snizzlefrazzy 1 month ago
@kamil198916 btw, why does the woman have to be responsible for a mans lust? why can't the men practice a little self-discipline and control their own lust? just because a woman doesn't have her hair covered doesn't mean that the men have to jizz themselves. am i to understand that every time a muslim man does something bad, it's the woman's fault?
snizzlefrazzy 1 month ago
sorry i cant reply sooner. well, i personally think we are all responsible of each other, not just ourself. dont you think so? i mean, in every other aspects as well, we are either directly or indirectly responsible for each other. It's what makes us human as a whole, in my opinion. Why would someone help somebody who are in trouble, if its not our nature as human beings that tells us to. That is to take care of other human beings, directly, indirectly.
kamil198916 1 month ago
Imagine, a house is on fire, then the firefighters came and say, "why must i be responsible for that? OMG, why can't people put a little effort and practice safe use of fire?!?!"...well, in real world, unexpected things happened. Things that sometimes we do it without fully aware of the consequences for example. Say, can a drunk guy keep himself at bay? What about desperate people?
kamil198916 1 month ago
Now, as i said before, concerning hijab/veil/etc. the practice of it by woman, HELPS man to control lust, as one of the benefit of that practice towards the community. I dont think it's relevant to say that it's woman's fault whenever a muslim guy do wrong. Okay, in a way it's like taking vitamins, which HELPS strengthens our health. I mean, i could practice healthy lifestyle but should I blame the vitamins, if I got sick one day? I personally don't think i should.
kamil198916 1 month ago
So likewise, it's not relevant to blame someone who is helping you. and certainly Islam dont blame one gender for another gender's misconduct, nor an individual over another individual's crime. Islam is fair, which is both beautiful and just. Only those who transgress will be convict of being guilty and put on trial.
kamil198916 1 month ago
@snizzlefrazzy i dont know why my replies dont end up stickin with your comment but somehow they are up there...i wish i can do something bout that....
kamil198916 1 month ago
@snizzlefrazzy one more thing to be clear, Hijab is not compulsory for muslim women. Hijab is merely an object. What the religion ask of its women is to simply cover up Aurah/certain part of the body(read more on this if you desire) regardless of what object that is, but of course relevant items only. And hijab is just one ideal item that helps muslim women carry on with the task. So no, hijab is not compulsory, but since it does the job well, hence wearing it are preferable by musliim women.
kamil198916 1 month ago
about eating things of the ground...i know i should have used another metaphore....
kamil198916 1 month ago
@TheSulphyr What are you doing carrying a weapon in the first place, and if it is a warzone then how many female militant army regimes are you aware of lol?
razaa09 2 months ago
to show that we are unarmed? then why didnt the cops ever do that??
kamil198916 1 month ago
@84WAKEUP and what does the male society have to look at when looking at women for them to be apart of society?
thefivestarboss 3 months ago
@thefivestarboss what i did nt understand
84WAKEUP 3 months ago
@84WAKEUP you said women covering their hair cuts them off from society so i asked you what does the male public have to be able to see when looking at a woman for her to be part of society?
thefivestarboss 3 months ago
@thefivestarboss i meant only gang members and thieves cover their head in public like ppl could rob a bank with covering their face in society if u cant see a persons face is very rude i think where u can never see the person u r talking to no offence but i simply dnt get the point what if u need a photo id u will say only my husband can see my face besides majority dnt follow islam the right way i discuss this with my friends they understand. sikhs n muslims r being troubled in france.
84WAKEUP 3 months ago
@thefivestarboss it is not accepted in today society to cover ur face and walk around besides even women can look at a mans face and be sexually attracted why then dnt men cover their face where is the equality of wait is it not written in quran oh my mistake see what i mean.
84WAKEUP 3 months ago
@84WAKEUP yes your mistake covering the face is not written in the Quran it talks about covering the hair and body.
thefivestarboss 3 months ago
MoshAllah x x x
PERSIANCAT88 3 months ago
handshake -- the new gateway drug!
danagirl23 3 months ago
@linzo005
peace , I think that this topic is not for us to discuss , we are practicing muslims , but we are not scholars.
so let's let it for scholars, ans let's just do what the scholars say . otherwise we will be singers .
(not anyone who have a little knowledge can tel us what and what not to do )
honestmuslim1 3 months ago
@honestmuslim1 I heard scholars telling the most stupidist thing on earth.Like a woman obey her husband when he calls for intimacy of the angels will curse until the morning.Or,the prophet tortured people or so and so.
I think Allah gave me a brain and I don't need crazy people to think for me.
linzo005 3 months ago
@SithSereyPheap1 Then in cases like that in which it's a life or death situation, it's perfectly fine and permissible to touch or hold the hand(s) of a person of the opposite gender that is not mehram to you so that you may save their life.
MSH786 4 months ago
I don't know much if they do nowdays... but when I grew up in Malaysia in the village in stronghold of Islamic heartland, men and women do shakehands ..
the women used their scarves to cover their hands and happily shake hands.
Nothing sexual just friendship.
fishcroni 4 months ago
@dxvxvx
A handshake isn't a sexual interaction.
novasigma 4 months ago
@novasigma according to who?
How about this, in the west the banks keep the profits whereas they used the people's money, its not democracy is it? naah.
9/11 inside job: ae911truth.or g
you have enough to think about, i hope you'll accept Islaam soon Insh'Allah
dxvxvx 4 months ago
@dxvxvx
Uhh, okay dokay.
novasigma 4 months ago
@SithSereyPheap1 what about ae911truth.or g - don't you think you need to investigate why 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
dxvxvx 4 months ago
What a very good explanation...i used to get stuck in explaining this....but i think i will forward this video from now on :)
siratulmustaqeem 4 months ago
Haha, agreed :] but sister, the perpetual pausing was a bit inconvenient. May Allah SWT bless you!
Dialahh 4 months ago
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Alhamdulillah Sister Welcome to Islam, Insha Allah will meet in Heave. But remeber every seed that dies after plucking it from tree grow back again from earth (who gives life back to this seed after its death) similarly we will be raised here after And Allah says in Quraan that it is not difficult to Allah to raise us again after death.
May Allah guide us in right direction, Ameen.
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Alhamdulillah Sister Welcome to Islam, Insha Allah will meet in Heave. But remeber every seed that dies after plucking it from tree grow back again from earth (who gives life back to this seed after its death) similarly we will be raised here after And Allah says in Quraan that it is not difficult to Allah to raise us again after death.
May Allah guide us in right direction, Ameen.
gaffar402 4 months ago
Handshakes are there to show trust and acceptance. If you refuse handshakes you show distrust. This is why a handshake is such a staple in business interactions between partners: they show trust of each other. What do you show to people when you demonstratively refuse this symbol of trust not as a WOMAN but as a human being?
INatalkaI 4 months ago
@SalamSeeker that's not a handshake either it's a rescue shake! i think it might be hard for non muslims to accept differences in culture but they have to try harder. i dont really see the big deal in not shaking womens hands, what harm is there to british society. many muslims with beards bigger than my manly stuble work hard and are very productive whilst practising islam.if anything it makes them more efficient.tablighi jamaat is the best way to wise up and learn communication skills for work
boxermaf 4 months ago
ههههههههههه وعليكم السلام ..وربي يوفقك اختي =)
ineedhack2 4 months ago
Wonderful, wonderful video. Absolutely fantastic !!! Only an ignorant fool who is full of lust and empty of any respect for women will argue with your impregnable points. Keep up the great work.
DrDhakna 4 months ago
@DrDhakna Full of lust and empty of respect?!?! LOLZ omg, priceless!
HPGWellscraft 4 months ago
How could Allah be so cruel to me,to deprive me of the beautiful colour of your hair.I take it that you're not a brunette or a blonde.Your eye brows appeared to be reddish brown,i gathered that you're a red head or a brown hair.Close enough ?
SithSereyPheap1 4 months ago
Thanks for the videos
bakeeri 4 months ago
BLAH!
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It is also western culture to smile and say hello to people on the streets, how many times in a day do we come across people within society who do not do that, cause they don't feel like it. I am surprised that so many people had their hair raised when I find most people won't even smile. Anyway just wanted to say mashaAllah and JazakAllah Khair for posting this. May Allah(swt) guide you always and protect you. Also those "what ifs" are kinda funny. What if?????......
fatimaflowers333 5 months ago
Salamu Alaykum sister, mashaAllah. May Allah(swt) reward you for putting yourself out there. Seems you have gotten a lot of responses on this subject. All over shaking hands, subhanAllah. Islam does not bend for culture, there is nothing in western society that says you must shake someones hand. Religious Freedom however does prevail. You one truly is an opened minded person to religious freedoms as most people proclaim it shouldn't have to be viewed as an insult. .
fatimaflowers333 5 months ago
I dont find handshakes to be sexual in any way shape or form. I feel this is one of those things that creates more tension than it eases, and it is considered extremely rude. It is like someone saying hello, and you don't say anything and simply ignore them. RUDE! You could do well by studying the Japanese. They modernized very quickly, but kept the key fundamental values of their culture. such as respect for people older than you, the pursuit of knowledge, and putting the group before self
OstaraWolf 5 months ago
It could really happen you know....
SithSereyPheap1 5 months ago
@SithSereyPheap1
Learn more about Islam and you will find the answer to all those questions you posted. Islam is really the way of life you know... the only way of life.
entah2le 5 months ago
Let suppose we're stranded in the middle of the sahara desert and you got one bad leg and you're limping on a crutch,and all the sudden a mad camel came out of nowhere and he's on the attack.Is it permissable for me to pick you up and run or let you crutch along and get stomp to death by a mad camel ?
SithSereyPheap1 5 months ago
Let suppose you have only one good hand left,you lost one during an israelis bombing.Anyway lets suppose i'm a tourist and i happened to run into you and your good hand is badly cut and it's bleeding,i want to apply some bandaid for you,but it require that i touch your hand.is that permissable or not ? haraam or halal ?
SithSereyPheap1 5 months ago
Let suppose you sat on a piece of log to have lunch and an indian cobra came out of nowhere and bit you in the arse cheek,should i let you die or should i suck out the vemon ?
SithSereyPheap1 5 months ago
Let suppose the king of beast the lion is chasing us as we walk and talk in the forest,we ran for our life and i ran for the tree and quickly climbed up for safety,but you on the other hand couldn't climb the tree,should i extend the helping hand to pull you up or let the lion devour you down below ?
SithSereyPheap1 5 months ago
Lets supposed i'm a jungle boy,a savage from the wild forest,who knew nothing about Allah or the law of the Qaran,and i'm just full of love and affaction,i laid eyes on you and instantly i follow my natural instinct and i ran over to hug you at first sight.Will i be beheaded for such an act of affection ? will you have an ignorant cave man beheaded or stone to death ?
SithSereyPheap1 5 months ago
A handshake is a sign of respect and trust. Not a sign that everyone you shake hands with will try and defile you. Western society sees the handshake as the initial form of greeting, a sign of business closure and it is extremely important for anyone trying to succeed in any form of business to have a proper handshake. A handshake with a woman is different than a handshake with a man obviously. But the most concern that can be rationally attributed to a handshake is the spread of bacteria.
DaBluedude100 5 months ago
@novasigma Okay, thanks for telling the truth. As I said before, it does not concern you being a non-Muslim on the Islamic Jurisprudence of hand shaking. Whether your personal belief makes it seem 'petty and childish' or not does not phase us at all. To the 1 billion Muslims who follow the religion of Islam and the teachings of their prophet shaking hands is not permitted. So shutup, your argument is going no where. Your opinion on the matter changes nothing.
airpickone 5 months ago
Why not just accept diversity in the population? Is that not what the values of the western world encourage i.e freedom of expression and religion etc If you think it's so rude to not accept a handshake, just refrain from extending it-problem solved.
Muslimah4321 5 months ago
@Muslimah4321 A handshake is important in matters of business and I pride myself on having a great handshake. Firm yet gentile, confidence yet compassion. If you want to participate in most forms of western business (or even just good business dealings) a good handshake is a must. It evokes trust and greeting to those you meet and familiarity and grounding with those you know. I have had bosses where every day you started work, you started with a handshake. Best boss ever.
DaBluedude100 5 months ago
@InfiniteTurtles To the people complaining that it is 'bad manners etc' I have a question for you? Who makes up these social expectations and rules? Are they not dynamic by nature and ever changing? Who is to say that shaking hands is the 'right thing to do'? The argument that when in Rome do as the Romans do is also obsolete. I'm sure if you travelled to Rome and the norm there was to go to the shops nude, you would not follow suit. Stop with the imperialistic mindset.
Muslimah4321 5 months ago
@Muslimah4321
The imperialistic mindset would be the exact opposite of saying when in Rome do as the Romans do. It would be the mindset that your culture and beliefs should supersede the cultural norms of the society in which you are living. That is imperialism. It is true that social values and expectations are constantly evolving, but the handshake is currently a universal greeting in Western society. Refusing a handshake is antisocial and rude.
novasigma 5 months ago
@novasigma I think you have the definition of imperialism a bit muddled up there. Imperialism is associated with power; minority cultural groups hold little power in their host society and cant possibly be attributed to practising 'imperialism'. @novasigma
I think you have the definition of imperialism a bit muddled up there. Imperialism is associated with power; minority cultural groups hold little power in their host society and cant possibly be attributed to practising 'imperialism' contin..
Muslimah4321 5 months ago
@Muslimah4321
When the Roman Empire conquered foreign lands they imposed Roman cultural values on the indigenous populations because they believed them to be superior. The British Empire did the exact same thing. Imperialism is about placing your own values and beliefs above all else, and thereby imposing those beliefs on everyone else. That is what happens when you refuse to shake hands with someone. Just like a Westerner refusing to bow in Japan because of his belief that bowing = submission
novasigma 5 months ago
@novasigma I understand your point and I actually typed out a whole response but for some reason YT has not shown it up. Romans did impose their values on others because they could i.e after conquering those lands they had the power to do so. My point is you can use the Romans as an analogy for your argument because minority cultural groups do NOT have the power to impose their values on everyone else in western society and hence can't be thought of as practising 'imperialism' as such. contin...
Muslimah4321 5 months ago
..When you say that refusing a handshake as 'antisocial and rude', I say that forcing others to accept a handshake is being rude and intolerant. Why is it that you think that only the western world can set the rules for everyone else? FYI according to current western social etiquette it is considered rude for a gentleman to offer a handshake to a woman before she offers.
Muslimah4321 5 months ago
@Muslimah4321
But they ARE imposing their values on everyone else if they refuse a handshake. I can assure you that refusing to accept a handshake is a direct insult to the person offering it. Since the handshake is a universal greeting, and refusing it is considered inappropriate by western cultural standards, a failure to accept a handshake is a blatant example of forcing your own values on everyone. The only "power" needed is the ability to refrain from shaking hands!
novasigma 5 months ago
@Muslimah4321
I don't think that the western world should set the rules for everyone else, but I do think that those living in the western world should abide by its basic cultural practices. Just like those living in the Arab world should abide by their customs. It is a simple fact that in western business/politics/etc, a handshake is a normal way to greet someone. I've never seen a Muslim refuse my handshake; that's why I believe that she (SalamSeeker) represents a minority opinion.
novasigma 5 months ago
@Muslimah4321 I would not expect a handshake in your part of the world necessarily. I of course would respect the local traditions. Here in the western world. It is expected. Shove intolerance. Its just an excuse to put up another social block to prevent members from branching off. Shame on those who preach against intolerance then shelter themselves from every other culture in the world. No handshake, no job, no business. Plain as that.
DaBluedude100 5 months ago
very good sister...you are doing a very nice Job...keep it Up...May Allah keep you on this right path till your last Breath...And Lead you to Jannah..Aameen
spidey494 5 months ago
I think it's a bit extreme, I mean how far will you go to separate the sexes? Why be so ackward and extreme? A handshake is just a handshake not sex! Your pushing this way too far and your only making an explanation for it because it is what you believe. why do you believe in such falsehood religion anyway?
kithp 6 months ago
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alesyed 6 months ago
14. fair In the eyes of men is the love of things they covet:
*women and sons;
*Heaped-up hoards of gold and silver;
*horses branded (for blood and excellence); and
*(wealth of) cattle and well-tilled land.
such are the possessions of This world's life; but In nearness to Allah is the best of the goals (to return to).
(TRANSLATION BY MOHSIN KHAN)
alesyed 6 months ago
03:14.
Beautified for men is the love of things they covet;
*women,
*children,
*much of gold and silver (wealth),
*branded beautiful horses,
*cattle and well-tilled land.
This is the pleasure of the present world's life; but Allâh has the excellent return (Paradise with flowing rivers, etc.) with Him.
(TRANSLATION BY ABDULLAH YOUSUF ALI)
alesyed 6 months ago
Mashallah Sister you make us proud! Ignore the ones who have to much time on their hands and are here to spread their disgust. But Sister it is very hard to not accept a handshake these days. When I see a woman I say hello by putting my hands on my chest and nod saying hello, but sometimes they reach out and when I ignore it or explain why they get angry. Also does this rule apply to all woman? What about cousins and aunts, etc.
Thanks!!
eaMusIk2008 6 months ago 2
@eaMusIk2008 JazakAllah Khairan for your kindness brother =)
Your current method is a good one. Hand on chest and nodding. Infact if I'm not mistaken its very common in the emirates.
You can touch the hand of any woman who you would be considered Islamically"unmarryable" to.Otherwise its best avoided.
There is nothing wrong with what you are doing right now Masha'Allah. =)
If they get angry let them be - insha'Allah your actions would have earned you the pleasure of Allah swt.
SalamSeeker 6 months ago 4
Ramadan Mubarak, sister.
PatrickDavidF 6 months ago
aww her arabic is the cutest.
airpickone 7 months ago