@nola70126 He's saying that the fossil record shows life forms from 4.5 billion years ago havent evolved at all. This is stasis, stationary, unchanging, NOT evolvting.
@MustangsCanTurnToo "He's saying that the fossil record shows life forms from 4.5 billion years ago havent evolved at all. This is stasis, stationary, unchanging, NOT evolvting." eh....the earth developed around 4,5 billion years ago...so why in hell would there be fossils from that age when the earth was nothing but molten rock and sulfur acid. One fucking big mistake I say.
This man is manifestation of pure evil. He is the most contradictory force to human progress that exists on this planet. Of course, people like him I mean.
On of the MOST obscene tricks of creationists is to QUOTE evolutionary scientists on evolutionary biology and try to claim that the scientists are REFUTING evolutionary biology.
The theory of Evolution dose not have the slightest thing to do with god.
All it dose is explain the empirical evidence.
If you choose to attribute unsubstanciable claims to your god that contradict empiricle evidence the choise is yours - live in the real world or a fantasy.
carp1844 There are no real prophecies, sir. A prophecy that has no precise data, and is therefore open to interpretation, is no prophecy, but an horoscope. Give me ONE prophecy with exact, irrefutable data. Thank you.
Evolution is a 19th century theory proven false by 20th century science. Beer has no more to do with football than evolution has to do with science. According to Darwin he would have abandoned his own theory by now based on the total lack of evidence. Darwin was an honest man willing to allow the evidence to speak for itself. If only his religious followers would do the same.
"Evolution is a 19th century theory proven false by 20th century science"
LOL, sure it is.
100s of thousands of published scientific papers supporting the theory of biological evolution and not one to refute it. If you can find one published in a reputable journal, send me the reference. LOL
There are many scientists at the top of their field and in every discipline who think evolution is a farce. Evolution is very popular because it does away with the Creator and His rules of conduct. There is a ton of evidence for creation that is purposely ignored. It is no mystery why secular God hating scientific magazines ignore the findings that support creation. Creationists focus on real science while evolutionists usually resort to name calling and circle reasoning.
"There are many scientists ... who think evolution is a farce"
There are? LOL. Come on show me the stats. LOL. I know what they are. Do you? LOL
"Evolution is very popular because it does away with the Creator "
Grow up Flanders. Everything in science is irrespective of a creator you dimwit! I don't see the discovery institute promoting 'Intelligent Falling' and rejecting Gravity Theory do you? LOL
When are you retards gonna know when you've been had? You are just a political pawn.
I find it interesting that believers in evolution often mention gravity. Gravity is actually a fitting analogy for God in terms of our scientific understanding. No scientist has ever seen gravity. No scientist has ever touched or put gravity under a microscope. No scientist can say what gravity is or why it works. Scientists can only see it's effects on objects. The same can be said of God. The effects of gravity are obvious and so are the effects of God to those who choose to see them.
@carp1844 SOOOO self-assured, sooo part of the secret "truth" club. The problem with people like you is that you'd rather be stupid than wrong. Isn't the "WHOLE UNIVERSE" enough? Why do you need something extra special just for you? Some secret trick--some hidden meaning--some added bonus neatly packaged in one handy booklet. Reality in readers digest form. Its infantile.
Matter is not being created anywhere in the known universe under any conditions that the laws of physics can dish out. Yet we have matter. So how did nothing become something? Logic demands that matter must have an origin yet nothing in the known universe is producing it. This is overwhelming evidence that something outside or above the laws of physics is at work here. And based on the complexity of the matter it stands to reason that this "something" is very intelligent. There you have it
That was so illogical and ignorant it was embarrassing. (Were you educated in Texas lol) if you want to use logic then your conclusion "god dun did it." must nessecarily follow from your premise. "nothing we know of produces matter/ the universe is like so complex, ya know." there are multiple ways complexity could have logically arisen, emergence for one, leaving no nessecity for a creator. Also you assume since we don't know what creates matter god did it, essentially arguing from ignorance.
Hey! you keep your good for nothing logic to yourself. I can skin a billy goat in twelve seconds with my American swiss army knife. Can you? Now who is the smart one? You keep your evidence out of my shcools!
@socrstreets I might agree with your logic that it is foolish to simply default to "God did it" however I am a student of the Bible and know of it's many treasures that go far beyond human reasoning. The prophecies are history written in advance. I know things that you are ignorant of. For example the U.S. and it's soon demise is foretold in Revelation. It will be preceded by a national Sunday observance law. Soon you will see I am right. You could be in the know.
The "demise" of a nation is not a prophecy, but a historical prediction. Every nation in the history of humanity has either transformed or come to an end. That should be patently obvious.
@socrstreets What I am about to tell you here is not patently obvious. Satan studies the laboratories of nature and soon, as foretold in prophecy, he will bring calamities on this and other nations that will be so severe that people will think God is angry. Satan will also begin to appear as a healer and savior. He will state that these calamities will continue as people desecrate Sunday.(the false sabbath) The U.S. will lead out in mandating Sunday laws. (The mark of the beast)
Matter can be created through a assymetry between matter and antimatter during conversion from energy.
Anyway, stating that God created matter just add a level of complexity. What created God? If God is eternal... isn't simpler to say that the universe is eternal? Occam's razor.
Complex system are not necessarily designed by an intelligent creator. Snow flakes don't have a "designer" for example.
"Scientists create matter in particle colliders every day."
You should probably add that this does not violate the 1st law of thermodynamics since it is the conversion of energy to matter. The reverse is observed regularly in nuclear reactors.
@TheGodlessGuitarist True...was a glib statement, but I was responding to a creationist with the analogy of particle accelerators, to describe the big bang. you know what i mean anyway.
@breaneainn Your response here is a perfect example of the misinformation spouted by evolutionists. Scientists do not create matter. All they have done is create conditions whereby energy is CONVERTED to matter. Your response is akin to creating an ice cube without using a liquid to start with. All I can do is shake my head and hope that you will see the light one day.
@carp1844 Particle physics has nothing to do with darwinian theory. The big bang was an energy to mass conversion...just like in the particle accelerators. Your analogy with ice/water is incorrect, they are both matter. Again, you compare science to religion by lumping all science together and expecting an overarching complete answer to everything. I suggest you learn a little more before proclaiming yourself "enlightened".
@breaneainn My point is that you can't get something from nothing. It was not meant to be ( nor did it need to be) an apples to apples analogy. You speak as though YOU have nothing left to learn. You are blinded by your rebellion against the worship of our Creator. "The fool hath said in his heart there is no God"
@carp1844 Of course you can't get something from nothing, no scientist says that. You're preaching to the choir buddy! I have plenty to learn, but I won't play theological jeopardy by supplying questions to your preselected answers. I consider worship of any sort to be institutionalised degradation. People have more value than that.
Oh and by the way, i coulnt give a toss if there were many scientists rejecting evolution. Biological evolution theory is a very long way past the finish line in terms of establishing itself as good solid science.
It's just a shame so many dimwits like you haven't caught on yet. You are the laughing stock of the developed world.
Do yourself a favour, learn to read properly, and get some science books.
A terrible crises is about to come on this world. Most Christians are wholly unprepared to meet it. Evolutionists are at an even greater disadvantage. This theory you call science has blinded you as it once did me. You are unable to see the forest through the trees. Excuses are constantly made for the vacant fossil record and irreducible complexity of living things causing true science to be tossed out the window. I likely won't convince you but I will pray that your eyes will be opened.
@artyfarty2 OH the Dover Trial! HAR HAR HAR you call THAT science asshole? Do you know the difference between science and politics? I bet you don't. You're another dummass who thinks that science is determined by consensus aren't you? I can hear your whiny assed little faggot voice saying, "99.9% of all scientists... " Got any more logical fallacies you want to pull on us?
carp1844 Get an education, man, You need it. Even the Vatican acknowledges evolution .The pope, the head of more than a billion catholics has to, reluctantly admit, that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming. This means that Genesis is not to be taken litterally.
The Vatican is controlled by the devil. For real. Revelation 13 tells us that is where Satan's seat is. Of course they are in favor of evolution. Evolution is like a rotary engine becoming a piston engine while still running. Oh, and there are no traces of the mechanical gradations to show the process. I was educated in public schools in the New England area. I believed evolution because I didn't question it. Once I started asking some real questions I discovered the answers aren't there.
Carp1844: The Vatican is no different from the highest authority in any religion. The Pope tries to guide his flock in accordance with what he believes to be the truth. Just like any other religious leader.
I am sure you are an educated, honest and sincere person but I assure you that concerning the Vatican you are speaking out of ignorance. Space does not permit me to explain step by step how the Vatican fulfills the antichrist prophecies to the letter. These are not general or vague prophecies. I say this in a kind way when I say that you have no idea what you are dealing with here. Truth is sometimes stranger that fiction. God opens the eyes of those who study these prophecies in sincerity.
Don't tell me you are part of this doomsday cult as well as being a creationist? Do you have ANY idea how many times christian fundamentalists have claimed "the end is nigh" over the centuries? No I didn't think so. I bet you think this is the first time a cult like yours has happened.
Bible prophecy states that this nation will soon enforce mandatory Sunday observance. This is also known as the mark of the beast. You have a lot to learn. When this event comes to pass then you will know that I am telling you the truth. Go to the nearest Seventh-day Adventist church and they will tell you what you need to know. I don't expect you to believe me now.
I became educated in the things of this world before I ever picked up a Bible at the age of 22. I laughed at Christians and could not for the life of me figure out why they believed the creation account in light of all of the evidence for evolution. Only when I decided for arguments sake to give creation scientists equal air time did I have my world view seriously challenged. Piece by piece I watched as creation scientists ripped the evolutionary theory to shreds in the scientific arena.
"I became educated in the things of this world before I ever picked up a Bible at the age of 22"
Sure you did. My guess is that you set low standards for yourself and continually failed to meet them, and when you reach 22, it all started to go down hill from there. LOL.
When you decide to rejoin humanity. Let me know. I'll gladly be ur buddy.
don't be too harsh on him, after all there's a hell of a lot of YECs out there I think they've just genuinely been badly educated and subsequently been easily misled.
@artyfarty2 they think that we just accept it because scientists do because they do the same with preachers and the bible, its projection, they dont realize that science is not a democracy and that they need actual evidence in order to be science
@OrthodoxDarwinis "the evolutionary model if most definitely "good solid science". It is the most observable theory of all. You can see with your own eyes."
You MUST be hallucinating. Tell you what. How about just getting in line right here and you'll get to see the Emperor's newest clothes.
@OrthodoxDarwinist, evolution isn't science dummass. So don't be calling it solid. The only thing YOU can SEE with your own eyes is design. Yet you chose to see something that cannot be seen.
@MaximusArurealius "evolution isn't science dummass. So don't be calling it solid. The only thing YOU can SEE with your own eyes is design.Yet you chose to see something that cannot be seen." Can you see gravity? Can you see atoms? Electrons? Protons? Can you see time distortions due to gravity? None of these are things you can see with your eyes yet one can make experiments to observe their existence. The only thing you can see with your eyes is Asserted design, it does not mean it is designed
@juuonse WOW You're a dummass. We know gravity is a fact. We know the same about atoms, electrons and protons. We can see design. It's self-evident ya fucking twit. WE cannot see evolution. The reason we can't see it is because it doesn't exist. IF there were any "solid" science behind it you'd have brought it up. You didn't because there isn't any. You were trained to believe. You're a fucking moron.
@MaximusArurealius And we know evolution is a fact. We cannot see design, you're merely asserting it. And if it indeed is design, then the architect was wasted and high while planning all this. You're a silly little man who missed the point entirely. Just because you keep yelling "there's no evidence for evolution" doesn't make it true. You go and have a happy life following a bronze age book. I'll stick with reality and the values of modern civilization.
@MaximusArurealius Nope, you just refused to read it. There's a difference. Libraries full of studies concerning evolution. Go read up and stop being intellectually dishonest to yourself and everyone else.
@carp1844 There are many Bishops at the top of their field and in every faith who think evolution is true. Creationism is very popular because it does away with reason and its rules of logic. There is a ton of evidence for creation that is rightly ignored. It is no mystery why Creationist scientific magazines ignore the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution. Scientists focus on real science while creationists resort to name calling and circle reasoning.
@breaneainn "Name calling and circle reasoning" Do you mean names like "mental"? Are you referring to circle reasoning like believing that bones are millions of years old because the rocks containing them are millions. And the reason the rocks are millions is because those bones were found in them?
@carp1844 I wasn't calling ALL creationists mental, just you. The bones are millions of years old because of the rocks they are found in. The rocks are millions of years old because of the radio isotopes found in them. There is no circle.
@carp1844 Apart from being completely mental, you are also gravely mistaken in your method of approach to this subject. Science is there to disprove science, not to disprove religion. You obviously cannot grasp anything of a higher order without seeing it as a matter of faith. This is why you consider science a religion. Darwins work is 100 years old already, (some of us) have evolved our arguments since then.
lol...I love how he quote mines a good book (which is fully google-able if you'd like to read the passage) which seems to somewhat hint of a problem, declares him to be the greatest evolutionist ever, say that he cited the mined quote in his material, then declare that for that reason, his creationist propaganda is "authoritative". Makes perfect sense.
What an ignorant , ignorant man. These morons still go after the "fossil record" as if it's the root of evolutionary theory. If they actually had a clue, and were literate in science (which for shit sake anyone on a "board of education" ought to be...) they would know that all fossil / geological records are is attendant evidence. The meat of evolution lies in the extrapolations of natural selection- genetics, biochemistry, geographical distribution, etc.
It sounds like he believes there was an Earth 13.5 billion years ago. So what is his problem with evolution? It seems that when people dont believe in evolution, they actually mean that they dont accept that man existed before 2000 years ago.
He is a young earth creationist, that is why he has such a beef with evolution. Oh yeah, and biblical creationists have to explain how in just over six thousand years, humans came to live on almost every continent, spoke so many languages, and possessed so many different beliefs. It seems they do not consider anything that contradicts their beliefs even worth thinking about.
@MustangsCanTurnToo ...and none of these contradict evolution theory or the facts.
Science acknowledges that it has gaps, that's what theories are for!
Self-correction occurs when there is evidence that contradicts the hypothesis, thus disproving it as a valid theory. This has not happened w/ evolution.
Creationist promoters are ignorant of what science is or they are deceitful liars (even if they know not to bear false witness).
@MustangsCanTurnToo "Evolutionists have exactly 3 arguements. Science of gaps, self correction, and "you're too stupid to understand science!"" and lineage of retroviruses, chromosome development, dna mapping and sequencing, paleontological evidence, general biology, etc. etc. etc... Creationists have "God did it". So yeah, who's the one "filling the gap"...wait, don't answer that...this is obviously going to be a fruitless discussion
Genome data proves false the theory of evolution. The conventional theory of evolution is fundamentally flawed, according to three publications by scientists working for Genome International that appeared today in Nature Precedings. All life did not evolve from a simple, single-cell organism – a foundation of Darwinian Theory. Research now shows that a parallel development of genomes during earth’s Cambrian Period led to numerous complex life forms originating en masse. Madison, WI Dec15, 2010
@Chunky "In fact, the Human Genome Project provided very strong evidence for evolution." OH really. Are you an expert on this fat boy? Here are the key points Einstein. Genome data proves evolution false. Complex animals and plants originated from prebiotic chemistry. The conventional theory of evolution is fundamentally flawed. All life did not evolve from a simple, single-cell organism, foundation of Darwinism. cont.
2. Research shows a parallel development of genomes during earth’s Cambrian period Numerous complex life forms originating en masse. The abundance and diversity of life on earth originated directly in the prebiotic environment. Research shows modern genome data completely uproots the evolution model. cont.
3. All of life’s complexity originated right from the primordial pond, without any need for the origin of the primitive bacterium-like microbe that had to evolve into all life forms on earth through laborious, untenable genetic mutations.
It's not looking good for your idiot research. PWNED
@ClamBake, I suggest if you are in biology that you pick another field to fuck up in. Do research bonehead.
HUGE FAIL ON YOUR PART Strange how you evotards can read something that totally defeats you and you have the ability to interpret with opposite results. Just how do you do it dummass?
@Chuncky, I don't take shit from assholes. You ask stupid questions, you get stupid answers. You claim evolution is science. Isn't science supposed to take an unbiased look at all objections to a theory? But you don't because you're an evolutionist. Now I suggest if you want to know about the Genome Project you go study up on it instead of defending your silly assed little theory of how monkeys grew taller and became ACLU lawyers.
@MaximusArurealius You are very clearly joking. No one can be this ill-informed, it's just not possible. Why are you pretending to to be totally ignorant? Is it funny to you?
@ClamCrunchy "You are very clearly joking. No one can be this ill-informed, it's just not possible. Why are you pretending to to be totally ignorant? Is it funny to you?"
FUNNY? IT'S FUCKING HILARIOUS ASSHOLE Is this all you can do to refute me? Is this your evidence for evolution? HAR HAR HAR you're an idiot, just FACE IT.
@juuonse hahahahahaha you just pwned yourself asshole. Thanks for admitting that you have no argument except a lame attempt at insult. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
@MaximusArurealius You do know that all three articles were written by the same scientists from a very anti-evolutionary perspective in the same website which is NOT peer-reviewed, which publishes preliminary findings which again are NOT peer-reviewed, thus have no place in a scientific journal. And ps. evolutionary paths from RNA strands has been proven time and time again, there's no need to assert a more complicated starting position. So yes, who's the moron.
Life did not evolve from a single-cell organism, the foundation of Darwinian Theory. Genomes during earth’s Cambrian Period led to numerous complex life forms originating en masse. Genome International today announced publications appearing today at Nature Precedings have proven the theory of evolution false and offered an entirely different explanation for both the origin and diversity of life on earth.
Dr. Periannan Senapathy, president and scientific director, said "genomics has shown that evolutionary mechanisms believed to have created the diversity of life on earth are fundamentally flawed. Many scientists have now come out openly and said that the current theory of evolution cannot work. The theory offered is an entirely new worldview that fits perfectly with the genome data."
“A critical mistake of the theory of evolution was the assumption that completely distinct organisms could evolve from one common ancestor, this idea failed to address that no absolutely distinct gene and therefore, organism, can ever be evolved.
who displayed any anger? why do idiots always say this tired phrase when the person they're talking to clearly showed no anger?
"You can accept mine or not, but I'm not being a pottymouth teenager. I'm guessing that's what you are."
who's the potty-mouth? i didn't see any swearing, not that it would matter. anyone who thinks a word is "bad", is a 'wordist' idiot. teenager? did you even check Desertphile's channel? certainly he is no teenager.
Yeah they can. It is setimated that 99-99.98% of biologists accept evolutionary theory and common decent, as well as about 97% of the total scientific community.
coxpc, you win the right to be ignored. You've just proven that you don't understand science, and have no clue what a scientific theory is. Darwin had no doubts about his theory.
Notice, that scientists can provide evidence for their claims, and that evidence and their predictions can be and have been TESTED repeatedly. There is NO evidence against evolution.
Too bad the religious folk can't make such proclamations regarding the major extraordinary claims of their scriptural accounts.
dude its waaaay too complex to him when you say cell theory.maybe gravitation is easier for him,not sure though .why then gravitation is taught at school even if its a theory?
Wow, i can see he really knows what he's talking about.
No sarcasm.....no really......i'm serious... this man probably took the time to atleast read stuff up about the fossil-record before getting to these incredible scientific claims.
And just for the heck of it.
You people know that a 'theory' is about the highest status something can get in the scientific community?
And as for calling science or evolution a believe...by this logic calling grass green is also a believe >.>
" I'd suggest you watch this vid if you believe evolution is FACT.
watch?v=QbeIIH8CADg "
Okay. I'm going to assume you're a religious person. Is this correct? If so, what aspects of your life are influenced by religion? Meaning, what aspects of your behavior are altered (and in what way) by religion?
" Believing in evolution is as much a religious belief as creationism "
You're sort of right. Believing in evolution would be ridiculous, because belief implies acceptance without evidence. Anyone who 'believes' in evolution hasn't studied the subject. Those that have studied it (and are being intellectually honest) have no reason to 'believe' it. The facts remove all need for belief. Evolution is a fact and there's more supporting evidence than any one man could learn in a single lifetime.
You cant teach a THEORY as FACT because in science, a THEORY is the explanation that binds all the found FACTS together. A THEORY is the crown on all loose facts.
because it is BOTH a theory and a fact. It doesn't have anything to do with god.
It is a fact since it is an observable. It is a phenomena that has been proved.
It is a theory (the theory of evolution) since it's complete mechanism hasn't been developed completely. That's why there is is still research in this area of Biology.
That was exactly what I was thinking. Maybe if you read the book instead of quote mining it, you could tell us why the fossil record is both woefully inadequate and irrefutable.
I found the quote, on page 69. Here it is in context (damn the 500 character limit):
"What is most gratifying is that all findings are consistent with Darwin's theory of common descent. Together with molecular sequences, the fossil record, in spite of its many gaps, is the most irrefutable evidence for the occurrence of evolution. However, continuous fossil sequences are still the exception; the fossil record remains woefully inadequate. (continued)
For instance, we have no fossil documentation of the human ancestry between 14 and 4.5 million years ago. The most recent coelacanth fossil is dated ca. 60 million years ago and, of course, everybody concluded that this group had become extinct that long ago, until two living species were discovered within the last 50 years. However, when even such an unexpected discovery has been made, it always fitted perfectly into the Darwinian framework."
Inadequate in this case does not mean 'insufficient' but, rather, 'incomplete'.
The fossil record is irrefutable because, in spite of its incompleteness, it explains everything that Darwinian theory asks of it. And notice also that McLeroy left out "Together with molecular sequences, " from his quote. Disingenuous.
Prokaryotic stasis? So what? A simple life form can remain stable and still give rise to branches. There is no conflict with evolution here.
p. 22: "The fossil record provides abundant evidence for common descent."
p. 13: "The evidence for evolution is now quite overwhelming."
I can't find "woefully inadequate" (I'm think that's what McLeroy said) in the book, although that phrase is not inconsistent with the fossil record being 'irrefutable.'
(Actually, it can be refuted (is falsifiable): find fossil rabbits in the pre-Cambrian and evolution is dead.)
Not dead, more likely rabbits evolved earlier than we thought, or were planted there by aliens, evolution is still real because microevolution has been observed and macroevolution is just the same but on a larger time scale that we arent capable of observing..
This is so scary ! Is this man really that stupid or is he just evil ? America is in trouble if morons like this man keep on being taken seriously ...
This moron doesnt have half the sense required to be considered common... He was working with two books at a desk and couldnt find one of them when needed... He couldnt read a simple word(maybe a fifth grade word) like genre... And this idiot got so much wrong I dont even want to try untangling the messy ball of string he turned science into there... WOW, That was an elected official on Texas's board of education... WOW, of education!!!!!!!! Please Texas, you can do better.
It's such a shame that ignorant people with personal agendas and so little intelligence are allowed to take (or be voted in by fellow ignorant, lazy fools) positions of responsibility, that so heavily influence the next generation.
Come on America, stop dragging your heals. Religion & State should be well separated.
Faith-"making a virtue out of not thinking". Fine - just let those who wish to think and actually use their brains, come to their own conclusions through knowledge, not dogma.
What a lying peice of shit. This guy is a dentist !! Stupid Texas moron.
MrJohnnyrace 3 months ago
Hard to believe that the US were once a symbol of progress and science.
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MaximusArurealius 9 months ago
ME A DENTIST! ME KNOW MORE THAN SMURTER PEOPLE WHO STUDY THINGS!
BrellK 1 year ago
What the hell is he talking about?
nola70126 1 year ago
@nola70126 He doesn't know!
DClayTorosco 1 year ago
@DClayTorosco hello dipshit. HEY folks! This dipshit is a sockpuppet of pontecanis, an idiot who thinks humans can get blood transfusions from apes.
HAR HAR HAR BUSTED
MaximusArurealius 9 months ago
@nola70126 He's saying that the fossil record shows life forms from 4.5 billion years ago havent evolved at all. This is stasis, stationary, unchanging, NOT evolvting.
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago
@MustangsCanTurnToo
"the fossil record shows life forms from 4.5 billion years ago havent evolved at all. "
This is false. Totally, completely, and utterly.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer Prove it belly dancer.
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago
@MustangsCanTurnToo
"Prove it"
Life didn't even exist 4.5 billion years ago, nincompoop.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer You know this because you were there?
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer
"You know this because you were there? "
Stupid troll is stupid.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer
Yeah! Even I knew that! ;-)
clothearednincompoop 9 months ago
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@MustangsCanTurnToo "He's saying that the fossil record shows life forms from 4.5 billion years ago havent evolved at all. This is stasis, stationary, unchanging, NOT evolvting." eh....the earth developed around 4,5 billion years ago...so why in hell would there be fossils from that age when the earth was nothing but molten rock and sulfur acid. One fucking big mistake I say.
juuonse 8 months ago
This man is manifestation of pure evil. He is the most contradictory force to human progress that exists on this planet. Of course, people like him I mean.
thejugglenaut91 1 year ago 2
this video should carry a safety notice: i just facepalmed so hard i blacked out for a second
PlanetBongoSan 1 year ago
@PlanetBongoSan
I know, somebody needs to bump this dumbfuck out of that chair. He's an embarrassment to human intellect.
nolobede 1 year ago
On of the MOST obscene tricks of creationists is to QUOTE evolutionary scientists on evolutionary biology and try to claim that the scientists are REFUTING evolutionary biology.
GetMeThere1 1 year ago
America's education system held hostage by a moron fundamentalist...
videoguy604 1 year ago
google "nylonase"
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
This guy dosn't have any qualifications in Geology so right from the sart he's a liar.
If you want to reference characters like this it's up to you but it's not doing your argument ANY favours what-so-ever.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago 2
The theory of Evolution dose not have the slightest thing to do with god.
All it dose is explain the empirical evidence.
If you choose to attribute unsubstanciable claims to your god that contradict empiricle evidence the choise is yours - live in the real world or a fantasy.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
carp1844 There are no real prophecies, sir. A prophecy that has no precise data, and is therefore open to interpretation, is no prophecy, but an horoscope. Give me ONE prophecy with exact, irrefutable data. Thank you.
lizazoon 2 years ago
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cARP1844:The Vatican is controlled by the devil Revelation 13 tells us that is where Satan's seat is.
iF YOU BELIEVE THAT, YOU ARE NUTS.
lizazoon 2 years ago
Evolution is a 19th century theory proven false by 20th century science. Beer has no more to do with football than evolution has to do with science. According to Darwin he would have abandoned his own theory by now based on the total lack of evidence. Darwin was an honest man willing to allow the evidence to speak for itself. If only his religious followers would do the same.
carp1844 2 years ago
"Evolution is a 19th century theory proven false by 20th century science"
LOL, sure it is.
100s of thousands of published scientific papers supporting the theory of biological evolution and not one to refute it. If you can find one published in a reputable journal, send me the reference. LOL
artyfarty2 2 years ago 3
There are many scientists at the top of their field and in every discipline who think evolution is a farce. Evolution is very popular because it does away with the Creator and His rules of conduct. There is a ton of evidence for creation that is purposely ignored. It is no mystery why secular God hating scientific magazines ignore the findings that support creation. Creationists focus on real science while evolutionists usually resort to name calling and circle reasoning.
carp1844 2 years ago
"There are many scientists ... who think evolution is a farce"
There are? LOL. Come on show me the stats. LOL. I know what they are. Do you? LOL
"Evolution is very popular because it does away with the Creator "
Grow up Flanders. Everything in science is irrespective of a creator you dimwit! I don't see the discovery institute promoting 'Intelligent Falling' and rejecting Gravity Theory do you? LOL
When are you retards gonna know when you've been had? You are just a political pawn.
artyfarty2 2 years ago 4
I find it interesting that believers in evolution often mention gravity. Gravity is actually a fitting analogy for God in terms of our scientific understanding. No scientist has ever seen gravity. No scientist has ever touched or put gravity under a microscope. No scientist can say what gravity is or why it works. Scientists can only see it's effects on objects. The same can be said of God. The effects of gravity are obvious and so are the effects of God to those who choose to see them.
carp1844 2 years ago
"Scientists can only see it's effects on objects"
Wow, you actually said something that is true for once. LOL
"so are the effects of God to those who choose to see them."
ROFLMAO. If you want to believe your imaginary friend is real, fine, thankfully idiots like you are becoming fewer and fewer in the developed world.
I told you the developed wold is laughing at you. Take a look:
watch?v=ocgcj-C_nIw
artyfarty2 2 years ago 2
Fools have known how to laugh from day one.
carp1844 2 years ago
@carp1844 SOOOO self-assured, sooo part of the secret "truth" club. The problem with people like you is that you'd rather be stupid than wrong. Isn't the "WHOLE UNIVERSE" enough? Why do you need something extra special just for you? Some secret trick--some hidden meaning--some added bonus neatly packaged in one handy booklet. Reality in readers digest form. Its infantile.
frustrating as all fuck.
breaneainn 1 year ago
carp1844: So let us bow and pray to and praise GRAVITY.
lizazoon 2 years ago
No thanks. Only the Creator of the universe for me.
carp1844 2 years ago
Odin?
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
"to those who choose to see them."
NO, you fool you have even made the dstinction in your own statement.
Gravity can be proven by empirical experiment, that's science.
It is not possible to empirically attribute anything to the supernatural, that is why it's called faith.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Matter is not being created anywhere in the known universe under any conditions that the laws of physics can dish out. Yet we have matter. So how did nothing become something? Logic demands that matter must have an origin yet nothing in the known universe is producing it. This is overwhelming evidence that something outside or above the laws of physics is at work here. And based on the complexity of the matter it stands to reason that this "something" is very intelligent. There you have it
carp1844 1 year ago
@carp1844
"Matter is not being created ... under any conditions that the laws of physics ..."
"This is overwhelming evidence that something outside or above the laws of physics is at work here"
what you are describing is the limits of our current understanding of physics (i.e. our understanding of nature) NOT the limits of nature itself.
"based on the complexity ... this "something" is very intelligent"
you'd have to attribute intention to this creative force before we can say it's intelligent
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
That was so illogical and ignorant it was embarrassing. (Were you educated in Texas lol) if you want to use logic then your conclusion "god dun did it." must nessecarily follow from your premise. "nothing we know of produces matter/ the universe is like so complex, ya know." there are multiple ways complexity could have logically arisen, emergence for one, leaving no nessecity for a creator. Also you assume since we don't know what creates matter god did it, essentially arguing from ignorance.
socrstreets 1 year ago
Hey! you keep your good for nothing logic to yourself. I can skin a billy goat in twelve seconds with my American swiss army knife. Can you? Now who is the smart one? You keep your evidence out of my shcools!
qigong1001 1 year ago
carp1844 1 year ago
The "demise" of a nation is not a prophecy, but a historical prediction. Every nation in the history of humanity has either transformed or come to an end. That should be patently obvious.
qigong1001 1 year ago
A political cartoonist needs to get on this reply and make it into something pronto.
socrstreets 1 year ago
@socrstreets What I am about to tell you here is not patently obvious. Satan studies the laboratories of nature and soon, as foretold in prophecy, he will bring calamities on this and other nations that will be so severe that people will think God is angry. Satan will also begin to appear as a healer and savior. He will state that these calamities will continue as people desecrate Sunday.(the false sabbath) The U.S. will lead out in mandating Sunday laws. (The mark of the beast)
carp1844 1 year ago
Several flaws in that reasoning.
Matter can be created through a assymetry between matter and antimatter during conversion from energy.
Anyway, stating that God created matter just add a level of complexity. What created God? If God is eternal... isn't simpler to say that the universe is eternal? Occam's razor.
Complex system are not necessarily designed by an intelligent creator. Snow flakes don't have a "designer" for example.
BrightHumanist 1 year ago
@carp1844 Scientists create matter in particle colliders every day.
breaneainn 1 year ago
@breaneainn
"Scientists create matter in particle colliders every day."
You should probably add that this does not violate the 1st law of thermodynamics since it is the conversion of energy to matter. The reverse is observed regularly in nuclear reactors.
TheGodlessGuitarist 1 year ago
@TheGodlessGuitarist True...was a glib statement, but I was responding to a creationist with the analogy of particle accelerators, to describe the big bang. you know what i mean anyway.
breaneainn 1 year ago
@breaneainn
I realised you probably knew this already, just didn't want to leave an incomplete statement hanging in the air that was vulnerable to attack.
TheGodlessGuitarist 1 year ago
@TheGodlessGuitarist Thanks for watching my back there! lol
breaneainn 1 year ago
@breaneainn Your response here is a perfect example of the misinformation spouted by evolutionists. Scientists do not create matter. All they have done is create conditions whereby energy is CONVERTED to matter. Your response is akin to creating an ice cube without using a liquid to start with. All I can do is shake my head and hope that you will see the light one day.
carp1844 1 year ago
@carp1844 Particle physics has nothing to do with darwinian theory. The big bang was an energy to mass conversion...just like in the particle accelerators. Your analogy with ice/water is incorrect, they are both matter. Again, you compare science to religion by lumping all science together and expecting an overarching complete answer to everything. I suggest you learn a little more before proclaiming yourself "enlightened".
breaneainn 1 year ago
@breaneainn My point is that you can't get something from nothing. It was not meant to be ( nor did it need to be) an apples to apples analogy. You speak as though YOU have nothing left to learn. You are blinded by your rebellion against the worship of our Creator. "The fool hath said in his heart there is no God"
carp1844 1 year ago
@carp1844 Of course you can't get something from nothing, no scientist says that. You're preaching to the choir buddy! I have plenty to learn, but I won't play theological jeopardy by supplying questions to your preselected answers. I consider worship of any sort to be institutionalised degradation. People have more value than that.
breaneainn 1 year ago
@carp1844 So what's god made of? I don't see any creationists conducting experiments to find out, to get closer to understanding their god.
breaneainn 1 year ago
@artyfarty2 hahahaha *intelligent falling* hahahahah
breaneainn 1 year ago
@artyfarty2 Does that make you Homer?
carp1844 1 year ago
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@carp1844
"Does that make you Homer?"
You have no idea. Guilty as charged. lol
TheGodlessGuitarist 1 year ago
Oh and by the way, i coulnt give a toss if there were many scientists rejecting evolution. Biological evolution theory is a very long way past the finish line in terms of establishing itself as good solid science.
It's just a shame so many dimwits like you haven't caught on yet. You are the laughing stock of the developed world.
Do yourself a favour, learn to read properly, and get some science books.
artyfarty2 2 years ago 15
A terrible crises is about to come on this world. Most Christians are wholly unprepared to meet it. Evolutionists are at an even greater disadvantage. This theory you call science has blinded you as it once did me. You are unable to see the forest through the trees. Excuses are constantly made for the vacant fossil record and irreducible complexity of living things causing true science to be tossed out the window. I likely won't convince you but I will pray that your eyes will be opened.
carp1844 2 years ago
"A terrible crises is about to come on this world"
Yawn. You deluded morons have claiming it's the end times since the beginning times LOL.
"vacant fossil record"
PMSL. Like I said, get yourself some science books.
"irreducible complexity of living things "
PMSL, You have not read up or watched the Dover trial have you?
"I will pray that your eyes will be opened."
Well, you pray for me, and I'll think for you.
artyfarty2 2 years ago 2
@artyfarty2 OH the Dover Trial! HAR HAR HAR you call THAT science asshole? Do you know the difference between science and politics? I bet you don't. You're another dummass who thinks that science is determined by consensus aren't you? I can hear your whiny assed little faggot voice saying, "99.9% of all scientists... " Got any more logical fallacies you want to pull on us?
OWNED
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
carp1844 Get an education, man, You need it. Even the Vatican acknowledges evolution .The pope, the head of more than a billion catholics has to, reluctantly admit, that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming. This means that Genesis is not to be taken litterally.
lizazoon 2 years ago 2
The Vatican is controlled by the devil. For real. Revelation 13 tells us that is where Satan's seat is. Of course they are in favor of evolution. Evolution is like a rotary engine becoming a piston engine while still running. Oh, and there are no traces of the mechanical gradations to show the process. I was educated in public schools in the New England area. I believed evolution because I didn't question it. Once I started asking some real questions I discovered the answers aren't there.
carp1844 2 years ago
Carp1844: The Vatican is no different from the highest authority in any religion. The Pope tries to guide his flock in accordance with what he believes to be the truth. Just like any other religious leader.
lizazoon 2 years ago
I am sure you are an educated, honest and sincere person but I assure you that concerning the Vatican you are speaking out of ignorance. Space does not permit me to explain step by step how the Vatican fulfills the antichrist prophecies to the letter. These are not general or vague prophecies. I say this in a kind way when I say that you have no idea what you are dealing with here. Truth is sometimes stranger that fiction. God opens the eyes of those who study these prophecies in sincerity.
carp1844 2 years ago
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"I believed evolution because I didn't question it"
more fool you.
"Once I started asking some real questions I discovered the answers aren't there."
Ok, ok ask again, I'll do my best to educate you.
I've seen many characters like you emerging from the US education system having been failed completely. feel free to PM
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Don't tell me you are part of this doomsday cult as well as being a creationist? Do you have ANY idea how many times christian fundamentalists have claimed "the end is nigh" over the centuries? No I didn't think so. I bet you think this is the first time a cult like yours has happened.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Bible prophecy states that this nation will soon enforce mandatory Sunday observance. This is also known as the mark of the beast. You have a lot to learn. When this event comes to pass then you will know that I am telling you the truth. Go to the nearest Seventh-day Adventist church and they will tell you what you need to know. I don't expect you to believe me now.
carp1844 2 years ago
"This is also known as the mark of the beast"
Oh dear, you really are living in the dark ages. I genuinely pity you.
"Go to the nearest Seventh-day Adventist church "
Yawn. I was raised in Christian faith schools, own and have read the bible. The difference between you and me is that my reading didn't stop there.
artyfarty2 2 years ago 2
I became educated in the things of this world before I ever picked up a Bible at the age of 22. I laughed at Christians and could not for the life of me figure out why they believed the creation account in light of all of the evidence for evolution. Only when I decided for arguments sake to give creation scientists equal air time did I have my world view seriously challenged. Piece by piece I watched as creation scientists ripped the evolutionary theory to shreds in the scientific arena.
carp1844 2 years ago
"I became educated in the things of this world before I ever picked up a Bible at the age of 22"
Sure you did. My guess is that you set low standards for yourself and continually failed to meet them, and when you reach 22, it all started to go down hill from there. LOL.
When you decide to rejoin humanity. Let me know. I'll gladly be ur buddy.
artyfarty2 2 years ago 2
don't be too harsh on him, after all there's a hell of a lot of YECs out there I think they've just genuinely been badly educated and subsequently been easily misled.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
@artyfarty2 they think that we just accept it because scientists do because they do the same with preachers and the bible, its projection, they dont realize that science is not a democracy and that they need actual evidence in order to be science
blazereef 1 year ago
@artyfarty2
Sorry but the evolutionary model if most definitely "good solid science". It is the most observable theory of all. You can see with your own eyes.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
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@OrthodoxDarwinis "the evolutionary model if most definitely "good solid science". It is the most observable theory of all. You can see with your own eyes."
You MUST be hallucinating. Tell you what. How about just getting in line right here and you'll get to see the Emperor's newest clothes.
MaximusArurealius 9 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist, evolution isn't science dummass. So don't be calling it solid. The only thing YOU can SEE with your own eyes is design. Yet you chose to see something that cannot be seen.
POWNED
MaximusArurealius 9 months ago 2
@MaximusArurealius "evolution isn't science dummass. So don't be calling it solid. The only thing YOU can SEE with your own eyes is design.Yet you chose to see something that cannot be seen." Can you see gravity? Can you see atoms? Electrons? Protons? Can you see time distortions due to gravity? None of these are things you can see with your eyes yet one can make experiments to observe their existence. The only thing you can see with your eyes is Asserted design, it does not mean it is designed
juuonse 8 months ago
@juuonse WOW You're a dummass. We know gravity is a fact. We know the same about atoms, electrons and protons. We can see design. It's self-evident ya fucking twit. WE cannot see evolution. The reason we can't see it is because it doesn't exist. IF there were any "solid" science behind it you'd have brought it up. You didn't because there isn't any. You were trained to believe. You're a fucking moron.
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
@MaximusArurealius And we know evolution is a fact. We cannot see design, you're merely asserting it. And if it indeed is design, then the architect was wasted and high while planning all this. You're a silly little man who missed the point entirely. Just because you keep yelling "there's no evidence for evolution" doesn't make it true. You go and have a happy life following a bronze age book. I'll stick with reality and the values of modern civilization.
juuonse 8 months ago
@juuonse I notice you were unable to produce a single bit of this "evidence" you claim to have.
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
@MaximusArurealius Nope, you just refused to read it. There's a difference. Libraries full of studies concerning evolution. Go read up and stop being intellectually dishonest to yourself and everyone else.
juuonse 8 months ago
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@juuonse I don't need to read up. I already know more about evolution than you do.
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
@artyfarty2 Idiot boy, what's your field anyway? Mechanics? Or basketball? Because you sure know jack shit about science.
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
99% of all faggots believe in evolution. HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
@carp1844
"There are many scientists at the top of their field and in every discipline who think evolution is a farce"
Names and quote statements to back up this insane claim please.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
@carp1844 There are many Bishops at the top of their field and in every faith who think evolution is true. Creationism is very popular because it does away with reason and its rules of logic. There is a ton of evidence for creation that is rightly ignored. It is no mystery why Creationist scientific magazines ignore the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution. Scientists focus on real science while creationists resort to name calling and circle reasoning.
Read more than one book.
breaneainn 1 year ago
@breaneainn "Name calling and circle reasoning" Do you mean names like "mental"? Are you referring to circle reasoning like believing that bones are millions of years old because the rocks containing them are millions. And the reason the rocks are millions is because those bones were found in them?
carp1844 1 year ago
@carp1844 I wasn't calling ALL creationists mental, just you. The bones are millions of years old because of the rocks they are found in. The rocks are millions of years old because of the radio isotopes found in them. There is no circle.
breaneainn 1 year ago
@carp1844 Apart from being completely mental, you are also gravely mistaken in your method of approach to this subject. Science is there to disprove science, not to disprove religion. You obviously cannot grasp anything of a higher order without seeing it as a matter of faith. This is why you consider science a religion. Darwins work is 100 years old already, (some of us) have evolved our arguments since then.
breaneainn 1 year ago
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His argument is logical. Anyone taking offense to it is bias and therefore unscientific.
carp1844 2 years ago
moron
artyfarty2 2 years ago
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carp1844 2 years ago
Please update the summary. McLeroy doesn't say "inaccurate", he says "inadequate" ... which is a synonym for insufficient, not wrong.
elronxenu 2 years ago
lol...I love how he quote mines a good book (which is fully google-able if you'd like to read the passage) which seems to somewhat hint of a problem, declares him to be the greatest evolutionist ever, say that he cited the mined quote in his material, then declare that for that reason, his creationist propaganda is "authoritative". Makes perfect sense.
grays42 2 years ago
What an ignorant , ignorant man. These morons still go after the "fossil record" as if it's the root of evolutionary theory. If they actually had a clue, and were literate in science (which for shit sake anyone on a "board of education" ought to be...) they would know that all fossil / geological records are is attendant evidence. The meat of evolution lies in the extrapolations of natural selection- genetics, biochemistry, geographical distribution, etc.
Get these idiots out of public office.
abyssquick 2 years ago 5
It sounds like he believes there was an Earth 13.5 billion years ago. So what is his problem with evolution? It seems that when people dont believe in evolution, they actually mean that they dont accept that man existed before 2000 years ago.
tridgit91 2 years ago
He is a young earth creationist, that is why he has such a beef with evolution. Oh yeah, and biblical creationists have to explain how in just over six thousand years, humans came to live on almost every continent, spoke so many languages, and possessed so many different beliefs. It seems they do not consider anything that contradicts their beliefs even worth thinking about.
topdogtomiii 2 years ago
this guy is totally clueless..LOL
alcina5 2 years ago 2
Creationists have exactly 3 arguments: God of the gaps, life is too complex and lies of omission.
That's all you need to know when someone tries to argue against evolution, what they are saying will fall into those 3 categories.
And every time solid reasoned information refutes those arguments. This does not stop creationists, they simply repeat the same things tomorrow.
robertmike57 2 years ago 17
@robertmike57 Evolutionists have exactly 3 arguements. Science of gaps, self correction, and "you're too stupid to understand science!"
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago
@MustangsCanTurnToo ...and none of these contradict evolution theory or the facts.
Science acknowledges that it has gaps, that's what theories are for!
Self-correction occurs when there is evidence that contradicts the hypothesis, thus disproving it as a valid theory. This has not happened w/ evolution.
Creationist promoters are ignorant of what science is or they are deceitful liars (even if they know not to bear false witness).
drfoxcourt 1 year ago
@drfoxcourt Okay. Hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving :)
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago
@MustangsCanTurnToo "Evolutionists have exactly 3 arguements. Science of gaps, self correction, and "you're too stupid to understand science!"" and lineage of retroviruses, chromosome development, dna mapping and sequencing, paleontological evidence, general biology, etc. etc. etc... Creationists have "God did it". So yeah, who's the one "filling the gap"...wait, don't answer that...this is obviously going to be a fruitless discussion
juuonse 8 months ago
@robertmike57 lol its all good till they shit all over the playing board and you spend your time cleaning it all up 1 by 1
WilkoPhilip 1 year ago
Genome data proves false the theory of evolution. The conventional theory of evolution is fundamentally flawed, according to three publications by scientists working for Genome International that appeared today in Nature Precedings. All life did not evolve from a simple, single-cell organism – a foundation of Darwinian Theory. Research now shows that a parallel development of genomes during earth’s Cambrian Period led to numerous complex life forms originating en masse. Madison, WI Dec15, 2010
MaximusArurealius 9 months ago 2
@MaximusArurealius Quite the opposite. In fact, the Human Genome Project provided very strong evidence for evolution.
ClamCrunchy 8 months ago
@Chunky "In fact, the Human Genome Project provided very strong evidence for evolution." OH really. Are you an expert on this fat boy? Here are the key points Einstein. Genome data proves evolution false. Complex animals and plants originated from prebiotic chemistry. The conventional theory of evolution is fundamentally flawed. All life did not evolve from a simple, single-cell organism, foundation of Darwinism. cont.
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
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@ChunkyBoy,
2. Research shows a parallel development of genomes during earth’s Cambrian period Numerous complex life forms originating en masse. The abundance and diversity of life on earth originated directly in the prebiotic environment. Research shows modern genome data completely uproots the evolution model. cont.
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
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@ChunkyBoy,
3. All of life’s complexity originated right from the primordial pond, without any need for the origin of the primitive bacterium-like microbe that had to evolve into all life forms on earth through laborious, untenable genetic mutations.
It's not looking good for your idiot research. PWNED
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
@ClamBake, I suggest if you are in biology that you pick another field to fuck up in. Do research bonehead.
HUGE FAIL ON YOUR PART Strange how you evotards can read something that totally defeats you and you have the ability to interpret with opposite results. Just how do you do it dummass?
HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
@MaximusArurealius Very mature comment. How does the Human Genome Project completely disprove evolution? Explain.
ClamCrunchy 8 months ago
@ClamCrunchy, They did an anal probe on an evotard. They found everything they needed. HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
@MaximusArurealius Again, real mature. Just because you take shit from people doesn't mean you have to act like an asshole.
ClamCrunchy 8 months ago
@Chuncky, I don't take shit from assholes. You ask stupid questions, you get stupid answers. You claim evolution is science. Isn't science supposed to take an unbiased look at all objections to a theory? But you don't because you're an evolutionist. Now I suggest if you want to know about the Genome Project you go study up on it instead of defending your silly assed little theory of how monkeys grew taller and became ACLU lawyers.
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago 2
@MaximusArurealius I haven't been an asshole to you, pal. You need help.
ClamCrunchy 8 months ago
@MaximusArurealius You are very clearly joking. No one can be this ill-informed, it's just not possible. Why are you pretending to to be totally ignorant? Is it funny to you?
ClamCrunchy 7 months ago
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@ClamCrunchy "You are very clearly joking. No one can be this ill-informed, it's just not possible. Why are you pretending to to be totally ignorant? Is it funny to you?"
FUNNY? IT'S FUCKING HILARIOUS ASSHOLE Is this all you can do to refute me? Is this your evidence for evolution? HAR HAR HAR you're an idiot, just FACE IT.
OWNED AND POWNED
MaximusArurealius 7 months ago
@MaximusArurealius you're a moron.
juuonse 8 months ago
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@juuonse hahahahahaha you just pwned yourself asshole. Thanks for admitting that you have no argument except a lame attempt at insult. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 8 months ago
@MaximusArurealius You do know that all three articles were written by the same scientists from a very anti-evolutionary perspective in the same website which is NOT peer-reviewed, which publishes preliminary findings which again are NOT peer-reviewed, thus have no place in a scientific journal. And ps. evolutionary paths from RNA strands has been proven time and time again, there's no need to assert a more complicated starting position. So yes, who's the moron.
juuonse 8 months ago
Life did not evolve from a single-cell organism, the foundation of Darwinian Theory. Genomes during earth’s Cambrian Period led to numerous complex life forms originating en masse. Genome International today announced publications appearing today at Nature Precedings have proven the theory of evolution false and offered an entirely different explanation for both the origin and diversity of life on earth.
Evolution is DEAD
MaximusArurealius 9 months ago
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Dr. Periannan Senapathy, president and scientific director, said "genomics has shown that evolutionary mechanisms believed to have created the diversity of life on earth are fundamentally flawed. Many scientists have now come out openly and said that the current theory of evolution cannot work. The theory offered is an entirely new worldview that fits perfectly with the genome data."
MaximusArurealius 9 months ago 2
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“A critical mistake of the theory of evolution was the assumption that completely distinct organisms could evolve from one common ancestor, this idea failed to address that no absolutely distinct gene and therefore, organism, can ever be evolved.
MaximusArurealius 9 months ago 2
I like how he says "evolutionist." As if it's a faith or something.
Cyraside 2 years ago 5
"Why are you so angry?"
who displayed any anger? why do idiots always say this tired phrase when the person they're talking to clearly showed no anger?
"You can accept mine or not, but I'm not being a pottymouth teenager. I'm guessing that's what you are."
who's the potty-mouth? i didn't see any swearing, not that it would matter. anyone who thinks a word is "bad", is a 'wordist' idiot. teenager? did you even check Desertphile's channel? certainly he is no teenager.
thisguysajerk 2 years ago 4
We observe speciation all the time, which is evolution. We obsesrve natural selection and mutation producing new traits. Here is just one example:
wildlifeextraDOTcom/go/news/lizard-evolution657DOThtml#cr
Replace the DOTs with "."
"The "experts" can't agree on eveolution"
Yeah they can. It is setimated that 99-99.98% of biologists accept evolutionary theory and common decent, as well as about 97% of the total scientific community.
The Steve project was a general indicator.
atlant80 2 years ago 5
"Project Steve" was a joke response to cretionists "lists of decenting scientists" It was never meant to be a study
jmdnarri 2 years ago
coxpc, you win the right to be ignored. You've just proven that you don't understand science, and have no clue what a scientific theory is. Darwin had no doubts about his theory.
Notice, that scientists can provide evidence for their claims, and that evidence and their predictions can be and have been TESTED repeatedly. There is NO evidence against evolution.
Too bad the religious folk can't make such proclamations regarding the major extraordinary claims of their scriptural accounts.
CodeSculptor 2 years ago 5
It is too bad. I feel kind of sorry for them.
gluntford 2 years ago
"Hah Hah Hah - how do you observe evolution? "
By looking, the same as you observe evolution.
Desertphile 2 years ago 2
anyone with Leroy in there name is worthy of anyone's time,
dwoclan 2 years ago 2
"So, the question is - WHY is evolution taught as FACT, when it's THEORY."
Before I answer this, please tell me why cells are taught in school. After all, it is cell theory. It's not a fact.
crackerkiller89 2 years ago 5
dude its waaaay too complex to him when you say cell theory.maybe gravitation is easier for him,not sure though .why then gravitation is taught at school even if its a theory?
19cohen 2 years ago
Yeah, damn. I cant believe i went to second grade material, i should have known that was too complex for his tiny brain to understand.
crackerkiller89 2 years ago
"I'd suggest you watch this vid if you believe evolution is FACT.
watch?v=QbeIIH8CADg "
Well alright but almost everything that guys says is demonstrably false. I'm not sure I can trust him.
mrkurt13 2 years ago
@mrkurt13
you can't - he lied about his qualifications right from the start - he has no qualification in geology.
MaxSafeheaD 1 year ago
Since I see evolution happening all the time, evolution is therefore an observed fact. You will just have to adjust to reality.
Desertphile 2 years ago 3
Wow, i can see he really knows what he's talking about.
No sarcasm.....no really......i'm serious... this man probably took the time to atleast read stuff up about the fossil-record before getting to these incredible scientific claims.
And just for the heck of it.
You people know that a 'theory' is about the highest status something can get in the scientific community?
And as for calling science or evolution a believe...by this logic calling grass green is also a believe >.>
jankuiper3422 2 years ago 2
" I'd suggest you watch this vid if you believe evolution is FACT.
watch?v=QbeIIH8CADg "
Okay. I'm going to assume you're a religious person. Is this correct? If so, what aspects of your life are influenced by religion? Meaning, what aspects of your behavior are altered (and in what way) by religion?
Hockeygod98 2 years ago 3
" Believing in evolution is as much a religious belief as creationism "
You're sort of right. Believing in evolution would be ridiculous, because belief implies acceptance without evidence. Anyone who 'believes' in evolution hasn't studied the subject. Those that have studied it (and are being intellectually honest) have no reason to 'believe' it. The facts remove all need for belief. Evolution is a fact and there's more supporting evidence than any one man could learn in a single lifetime.
Hockeygod98 2 years ago
"WHY is evolution taught as FACT, when it's THEORY."
Evolution isn't a theory, shit-for-brains: evolutionary theory is.
Desertphile 2 years ago 3
"You can believe evolution or creation."
Evolution: an observed fact. Therefore I refuse to believe in it for the same reason I refuse to believe in snow.
Creation (I assume you mean Big Bang cosmology): also an observed fact--- it is still banging---- therefore I also refuse to believe in it.
Desertphile 2 years ago 2
You cant teach a THEORY as FACT because in science, a THEORY is the explanation that binds all the found FACTS together. A THEORY is the crown on all loose facts.
freethinkerbell 2 years ago 3
because it is BOTH a theory and a fact. It doesn't have anything to do with god.
It is a fact since it is an observable. It is a phenomena that has been proved.
It is a theory (the theory of evolution) since it's complete mechanism hasn't been developed completely. That's why there is is still research in this area of Biology.
mercapdino 2 years ago 6
You know anyone using the term 'evolutionist' is a creationist.
verstwo2 2 years ago 10
why isnt anybody on the bored yelling out QUOTE MINER.
fuckin guy acts like he's diggin for gods lost family jewels.
MpowerdAPE 2 years ago 3
That was exactly what I was thinking. Maybe if you read the book instead of quote mining it, you could tell us why the fossil record is both woefully inadequate and irrefutable.
maemorri 2 years ago 2
Don't worry it'll only effect the Texan children. Lol
brandomar1 2 years ago 2
I found the quote, on page 69. Here it is in context (damn the 500 character limit):
"What is most gratifying is that all findings are consistent with Darwin's theory of common descent. Together with molecular sequences, the fossil record, in spite of its many gaps, is the most irrefutable evidence for the occurrence of evolution. However, continuous fossil sequences are still the exception; the fossil record remains woefully inadequate. (continued)
7137271 2 years ago 7
For instance, we have no fossil documentation of the human ancestry between 14 and 4.5 million years ago. The most recent coelacanth fossil is dated ca. 60 million years ago and, of course, everybody concluded that this group had become extinct that long ago, until two living species were discovered within the last 50 years. However, when even such an unexpected discovery has been made, it always fitted perfectly into the Darwinian framework."
(continued)
7137271 2 years ago 6
(why doesn't 'reply' nest the comments?)
Inadequate in this case does not mean 'insufficient' but, rather, 'incomplete'.
The fossil record is irrefutable because, in spite of its incompleteness, it explains everything that Darwinian theory asks of it. And notice also that McLeroy left out "Together with molecular sequences, " from his quote. Disingenuous.
Prokaryotic stasis? So what? A simple life form can remain stable and still give rise to branches. There is no conflict with evolution here.
7137271 2 years ago 8
Hmm. Now, they're nested. Yesterday they weren't. Go figger. At least you can read it easier now.
7137271 2 years ago
This clip could be a scene from Borat.
notbendable 2 years ago 5
I don't think he read the same book I did:
p. 22: "The fossil record provides abundant evidence for common descent."
p. 13: "The evidence for evolution is now quite overwhelming."
I can't find "woefully inadequate" (I'm think that's what McLeroy said) in the book, although that phrase is not inconsistent with the fossil record being 'irrefutable.'
(Actually, it can be refuted (is falsifiable): find fossil rabbits in the pre-Cambrian and evolution is dead.)
McLeroy is just being dishonest.
7137271 2 years ago 4
Not dead, more likely rabbits evolved earlier than we thought, or were planted there by aliens, evolution is still real because microevolution has been observed and macroevolution is just the same but on a larger time scale that we arent capable of observing..
valleyshrew 2 years ago
"Don McLeroy: the fossil record is not "irrefutable""
True, but it IS irrefuted (which doesn't appear to be a word).
ConstantlyQuestion 2 years ago
This is so scary ! Is this man really that stupid or is he just evil ? America is in trouble if morons like this man keep on being taken seriously ...
Falloutmoon 2 years ago 8
Why is someone so ignorant have so much power over education?
g12er 2 years ago 8
Because it was put in charge there by the average moron thru election.
AzraelI666 2 years ago
Nothing like good old quote mining to make your bullshit point Mcleroy.
agnosticman77 2 years ago 6
What as asshat.
agnosticman77 2 years ago 2
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religionOFFENDSme, he's a dumb ass for sure... but he wasn't elected. He as appointed by our Gov Perry. Twice.
Perry knew exactly what he was appointing.
yzScott 2 years ago 2
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yzScott 2 years ago
This moron doesnt have half the sense required to be considered common... He was working with two books at a desk and couldnt find one of them when needed... He couldnt read a simple word(maybe a fifth grade word) like genre... And this idiot got so much wrong I dont even want to try untangling the messy ball of string he turned science into there... WOW, That was an elected official on Texas's board of education... WOW, of education!!!!!!!! Please Texas, you can do better.
religionOFFENDSme 2 years ago 2
It's such a shame that ignorant people with personal agendas and so little intelligence are allowed to take (or be voted in by fellow ignorant, lazy fools) positions of responsibility, that so heavily influence the next generation.
Come on America, stop dragging your heals. Religion & State should be well separated.
Faith-"making a virtue out of not thinking". Fine - just let those who wish to think and actually use their brains, come to their own conclusions through knowledge, not dogma.
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