I was just thinking, "gosh, if they just hadn't called her fat, then maybe she wouldn't have suffered and maybe would still even be alive." It then occurred to me that although her death was tragic, it probably saved the lives of millions of girls/women because of the awareness.
Poor thing. She looks good to me. It's a shame how shallow this society is and how it has been for a long time, ruining a lot of lives in the process.
I will never understand why they couldn't just put her damn drum kit in the front if they were really concerned about the audience seeing her! Putting her drums in the front or on a raised platform would have been just fine. It's not like she couldn't play-- she was very good!
This movie has a number of inaccuracies. The article where she was called "chubby" never existed. Another instance is the poster @1:45, that's the cover of the "Made in America" album not made until 1981. Also it should be noted that this is a polished version of the story so the family dynamics and relationship isn't what it seems. The actress herself said this was a "whitewashed" version of the Carpenter's story.
Previously, the "CHUBBY SISTER" comment (written by a music critic) had been silenced, "bleeped out" on this youtube video. Karen Carpenter now reads those words out loud on youtube--the words which lead to her own death. Eventually, she was taken from this world in February 1983 because of those words :-(
superstar . the best song they ever did, it showed just how crystal clear karens voice was. its still so hard to believe that its been 26 years since she passed away, i miss that voice , that angelic voice, none of todays female artists, as good as they are , can ever compare to karen. miss you so much
@60srocker46 Yeah, good tune. What's sorta ironic about it is that the writers (Bonnie and Delaney/Leon Russel) had been messing around with the tune for years and had a working title called Groupie--before the Carpenters covered it.. The lyrics are about a female groupie who becomes obsessed with a rock star after she has a casual sexual encounter with him backstage---not exactly the sort of topic that squared well with Carpenters squeaky clean public image back then
@Guldmedalj Na, that was just a rumor that got misreported as fact, which then wound up in the film. That statement (about her weight) wasn't in the article or any articles, in fact. Also, eating disorders don't get set off by a single negative comment. It's complex and multifaceted disorder. If every negative comment about weight led to anorexia, 90 percent of girls in the US woulds never make it out of puberty alive
@abysskater KAREN: "I get such butterflies." AGNES: "Karen, you're not eating." KAREN: "I'm... I'm just excited about being home. Besides, I'm watching my weight." HAROLD: "You look wonderful. I'll bet on that tour you have all those fellows beating down your door." KAREN: "Yeah, right, Dad."
@abysskater KAREN: "I get such butterflies." AGNES: "Karen, you're not eating." KAREN: "I'm... I'm just excited about being home. Besides, I'm watching my weight." HAROLD: "You look wonderful. I'll bet on that tour you have all those fellows beating down your door." KAREN: "Yeah, right, Dad."
that just shows, that when people make negitive comments about someone physical apperiance, it really can cause damange. whether or not you mean what you say, it can ruin someones life.
I always said that the media and public were at fault for Karen's death. She was already showing signs of anorexia, but being called names like that in the media is what threw her into overdrive. It's a shame she met such a tragic end. She was far from fat. Though this music was long before my time I've always loved The Carpenters since the first time I heard them. God bless you Karen!
@BabyDayDay31382 There actually was no "chubby sister" article in Billboard. After this TV movie, Billboard got hate mail, but they were all, "WTF? We'd never write anything like that!"
@BabyDayDay31382 I truly believe that the media and the business makes most of them develop eating disorders and addictions. It truly does. Because the media loves perfection. It's such a backstabbing industry.
Richard really regretted this being made from what I've heard and seen. At the time it was made though, he thouTght that he should have it done before someone else did. The book, Little Girl Blue, is probably a very accurate biography. In it, the mom really gets blamed for a lot. She favored Richard and wasn't at all demonstrative of affection. Lots of people thought that she was a bitch. The dad was really nice according to the book. I rember the day Karen died. I was heartbroken.
@cyphrinfinity that's definitely part of it, but she was always painfully shy too, she felt more comfortable in the background. And her mother always made Richard out to be the real star of the family, so she never felt that she deserved it. Sad really.....
Fuck Billboard who said Karen Carpenter was chubby. Karen was beautiful! I don't blame the guys trying to bust down her down. I think I would've been one of those groupies.
There are two things I noticed. She looked into the mirror that made her look fat. We used to have them in the fun houses when I was a kid. They would distort your image. So everytime Karen looks in a mirror she sees herself as fat no matter how thin she was. The other is, she wanted to stay behind the drums, but the people around her were constantly controlling her. They wanted her out front, and they would not listen to her. Then she gets home and mom starts to control.
She wanted to be behind those drums, because she love to play, and they were her security blanket. Here was again, you can see how everyone wanted to control her.
Reasons of why many famous go to the pills... because of the criticism of people. Bad people who dont make the money they make just only watching tv and drinking tea......
Karen was already suffering from self esteem issues and to read the piece in the media just made things worse, people think ,the next time you say something to another person that might attack their self esteem have a thought of what could happen to them, just as what happened to Karen. We sometimes speak without realising the harm we might cause.
You just never know if others can take it, help prevent the same thing that happened to Karen, many people out there are suffering in silence.
i've had eating disorder for 4 years off and on. there are times where i feel like i really have a handle on things and then there are times where it truely does completely takes over my life, but even when i feel like i doing okay with things every little comment that people say weather its a complement or insalt i always relate it to my weight or the way i look. 1 guy at my work told me i was "kinda chubby'' it was a major trigger for me. i cried while i was out on the sales floor
@cpotts339 and purged my dinner that night threw exercise for 3 1/2 hours on the treadmill. people really dont know how much the things they say can trigger or reinforce an issue
@dalivsta I really not impressed with the actress portraying Karen in this movie I think that Karen Allen should of got the part as she resembles Karen Carpenter so much face wise etc.?
Isn't it amazing that she never had voice lessons and was THIS GOOD?!! ....yet she wanted to be known as the drummer who sang rather than the singer who played the drums.
The culture of thinness is just mind control to benefit some a-holes who want to make money. It got taken to the extreme, because it taps into survival, self-esteem, anxiety, worthy-of-love issues all at the same time. Those who profit and benefit from it are mostly advertisers and mentally ill fashion designers. That's why this world is so crazy--the crazy get the run of the place.
Yes, it was definitely wrong for that person, who ever they were, to call her "chubby." It was not only inaccurate, but very insensitive. But you have to remember that that was only a trigger for her developing anorexia. Yes, other peoples' opinions, words and actions can really hurt and damage us but we're still responsible for ourselves. If Karen had been healthy to begin with, she would've been able to let that comment go in one ear and out the other.
i can't believe anyone would call her chubby..she was so beautiful.. if she was chubby then i must be a whale...heaven got another beautiful angel that day :/ RIP Karen.
Their mum was wrong to keep giving Richard pills, According to this she's the one that gave him his first sleeping pills and in this scene she's asking him if he is still taking the pils she gave him. Then he develops a drug addiction later on.
That's "chubby", huh? Whatever! Who the hell said that all men are into "stick figures"? When I was growing up, the girls we considered fine were thick in the bust, hips, and butt. We pretty much ignored the bony girls. Hasn't changed much for me as a grown man.
Karen quoted these exact words, "You can never be too rich or too thin." Well, I guess you CAN be too thin because that was, essentially, the cause of her death =( ... In the process, though, people suffering from eating disorders are destroying their bodies - basically a slow suicide. The body becomes compromised by the disease, mainly the cardiovascular system, the direct cause of Karen's demise, and organ failure is often inevitable (and often irreversible).
I like this video, but honestly feel it does not do justice to what a great talent she was. I suppose there are a "few' inaccuracies , so why hasn't there been a better "docu-grama" made about her life. In so many ways, she has been forgotten even though she had that flawless voice. Maybe someday.
The movie is about a family of people who were human and loved each other dearly. We all have ways of coping with life. Some of those ways are healthy, and some are destructive. I'm not trivializing, I'm simply stating the common threads we all share.
@mushymunch28 You've got that right - for sure! Those people you refer to are just people who don't care in the least for their fellow human beings. They care only to find fault, whether there or not - "talking heads"
@louise4053 I know quite a lot about eating disorder tyvm, you truly did me no favor by posting that useless explanation on my page. My original comment on this video was to user, Rubix who was commenting on the line in the movie: "women are supposed to be thin"... I responded: "We are supposed to be thin?" and then you came back with the, "Says who?"... to which I refuted: "To health". I don't understand what you needed to say anything further for. As far as I'm concerned it was finished there.
i hate when they do that when an already thin girl gets an ED. it makes more sense if she is a bit chubby or curvy or average or something. its more relatable and less annoying
hmm.. I think this movie shows just one side of Karen. From what I understand she had a great sence of humor! Who we see here is only the destructive, anorectic, poor Karen that most people NEVER got to know.
It's about time we made a movie focusing on the music, the cohesion within the band and Karens humoristic side, as well as the destructive side of the sister and brother duo.
I don't think Karen would have wanted us to remember her like this, feautured in this movie..
WOW.. They turned on the Sound... HOW big of them... THANK YOU.... This is what we wanted... You should never SILENCE one of the GREATEST VOICES EVER...
one thing they didnt think of was when she was singing love is surrender his voice was singing too ... they should have had him down there with her singing !
8:02 her mother is worried about karen's diet. and karen remember that day when someone in the newspapper call her chubby. and mother told her that isn't fat now, on the contrary she's very thin.sorry my english but i'm spanish
Ahh, I think I know which track WMG has found and claimed to have a copyright claim on to get YT to block the audio for this part of the movie;the original version of the song "we've only just begun" done by another artist used in the ad richard saw on the TV in which he got inspiration for the Carpenters cover version of the song. Even so why does WMG have a claim on it-the artist could dead by now!
I do like Olivia when she does not sing disco music. I agree with you: the union of Agnetha and Frida (and Bjorn and Benny, of course) makes the sound of ABBA but... Agnetha is prettier for my taste :-)
It doesn't matter. The Carpenters, with or without the credit that they deserved, is one of the best. Their fans know it.
The song "Solitaire", sung by Karen, is one of the best songs I have ever heard.
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Yes, I like Solitaire too, in fact, they had plenty of brilliant songs... And to me, they achieved that wonderful sound mainly due to their almost magical harmony. Despite all the conflicts and difficulties Karen and Richard might have had between themselves, they have always remained a soulmates.... Such an incredible bond comes once in 100 years.
Of course ABBA was very popular all over the world. But The Carpenters deserve to have the same popularity, I think.
As I always say: Karen Carpenter, Olivia Newton-John, Kate Bush and Agnetha Fältskog (of ABBA) are the best female voices of pop in the second half of the 20th century. This is my humble opinion.
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Without any doubt they deserve not less credit than ABBA, but unfortunately, that's the way things turned for them(((
My list of best female voices in pop music is much much longer) To me Agnetha and Frida are equally good and only a synthesis of their voice gave that unique sound of ABBA. And frankly - I never liked Olivia Newton-John, although I know she was Karen's best friend...
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From what I know, they never came neither to Spain, nor to my country - Russia, where they are also unknown. Carpenters were more popular in America and Japan, and ABBA was popular all over Europe...
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OMG.. People just forgot how to read.. Of course it is just image, I didnt post it on youtube since it forbidden! There is a direction to the link in video description.
Sure did, managed to watch the entire movie. But I just wished the ending could have been different. My ideal ending would be: Karen was saved at the hospital, a year later she met and married a successful, caring man. And on July 2009 Karen and her five children were performing guests at Michael Jackson's "This is it" concert in London.
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Wow, that would be a perfect ending for anyone((( Even without Michael Jackson and her children....
But my ideal ending would be - Karen was saved at hospital, and afterwards she and Richard released their album, that become the most successful in their career. And they lived happily for ever and ever.
I'm downloading every part of the film (audio and video) because here in Spain it is impossible to get this movie on DVD.
The program I use for downloading works only with youtube videos. Please what can I do? I have to have the other parts with sound and part 4 without sound? Please is it possible to upload this 4th part with audio, even in Rapidshare or Megaupload or so?
Please I need help.
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We all miss you, Karen. Rest in peace and God bless you.
if i found out the media said something like that to my child i'd soo furious, be lke how dare you say that about my child, i'm the parent of the child not you people, i'll be the one telling my child if she/he needs to lose some weight.
I don't think that really happened - the one that was scared that Karen would realise just how much it was all about her wasn't a journalist that needed to put here down - druggie brother and paranoid person is who if you looked up the phsychology behind her demise is the main suspect.
I don,t think one can pin all the blame on Richard,it was to do with the way that both Karen and Richard were reared,the mother/parents was fussy and overprotective as far as is known.
Yeah, it's so easy to make Richard seem "bad guy", while Karen is always "sweet innocent angel", who was suppressed by her "druggie" brother. Don't make me laugh!
its a shame the way the media puts pressure on women celebrities or not to lose weight! Even I feel the pressure and I am trying to recover from anorexia but it's hard with weight loss ads and shows this time of year!
it's amazing how much she looks like karen...wonder if she actually sang as well, or if it was just overdubs and lip synchs? val kilmer sang on the doors movie..i guess it could be possible. what a tragic loss. she was so beautiful..way to go media for making her go away.
Yes Avalon..no doubt that was crushing blow on her psyche to read that, and the beginning of her problem with anorexia, but its also about self-esteem & a good self-image. If she had that, she would be alive today....that I blame on the parents!
Now that im older,i appreciateThe Carpenters even more.
rvhawkeye 2 weeks ago
I was just thinking, "gosh, if they just hadn't called her fat, then maybe she wouldn't have suffered and maybe would still even be alive." It then occurred to me that although her death was tragic, it probably saved the lives of millions of girls/women because of the awareness.
greentara313 1 month ago
Poor thing. She looks good to me. It's a shame how shallow this society is and how it has been for a long time, ruining a lot of lives in the process.
healthfreak18 1 month ago
CHUBBY??? If she's cubby then I'm an elephant!!!
BellaSilvery 1 month ago
"They're not drugs; they're prescription medicine!" LOL
madamerotten 1 month ago
I will never understand why they couldn't just put her damn drum kit in the front if they were really concerned about the audience seeing her! Putting her drums in the front or on a raised platform would have been just fine. It's not like she couldn't play-- she was very good!
skystarless 4 months ago
thats rediculous! chubby??! that is obsurd! people are so messed up! she was beautiful!
angellightmist1016 4 months ago
"Superstar" is a masterpiece... so haunting and beautiful. Gets me everytime.
Flexicon9 4 months ago
This movie has a number of inaccuracies. The article where she was called "chubby" never existed. Another instance is the poster @1:45, that's the cover of the "Made in America" album not made until 1981. Also it should be noted that this is a polished version of the story so the family dynamics and relationship isn't what it seems. The actress herself said this was a "whitewashed" version of the Carpenter's story.
2Kriss2Kross 4 months ago
who is that actress playing the role of Karen? she sounds exactly like Karen Carpenter! OMG!
daynolism 6 months ago
@daynolism they used karens vocals on it!
TheKafa84 3 months ago
OMG I love that song.... RIP Karen Carpenter and Luther Vandross
RedNoir 6 months ago
Chubby Sister?? What karen was beautiful!!! whoever said that of her, is full of as a christmas turkey.
MidlandlovesLaSombra 7 months ago 2
i love how she looks on the elevator door lol
ananmia101 7 months ago
Previously, the "CHUBBY SISTER" comment (written by a music critic) had been silenced, "bleeped out" on this youtube video. Karen Carpenter now reads those words out loud on youtube--the words which lead to her own death. Eventually, she was taken from this world in February 1983 because of those words :-(
mredominik 7 months ago
@mredominik Not true. She began dieting at 16 using the Stillman diet of high proteins and low carbs.
zany2x 6 months ago
1:45 I found a mistake in the film, you can see the "Madein America" album cover , album to be released six years later ...
ssoko 7 months ago
the movie depicts that karen and richard had a insestual relationship, they relied on each other until both went through puberty!!
LusiciousGoldieXXX 8 months ago
@LusiciousGoldieXXX Um... I'm not seeing that in this movie. I don't know what YOU'RE watching.
arfies 5 months ago in playlist Karen Carpenter Story
8:50: "They're not drugs. They're prescription medicine..."
sluggoII 8 months ago
superstar . the best song they ever did, it showed just how crystal clear karens voice was. its still so hard to believe that its been 26 years since she passed away, i miss that voice , that angelic voice, none of todays female artists, as good as they are , can ever compare to karen. miss you so much
60srocker46 9 months ago 3
@60srocker46 Yeah, good tune. What's sorta ironic about it is that the writers (Bonnie and Delaney/Leon Russel) had been messing around with the tune for years and had a working title called Groupie--before the Carpenters covered it.. The lyrics are about a female groupie who becomes obsessed with a rock star after she has a casual sexual encounter with him backstage---not exactly the sort of topic that squared well with Carpenters squeaky clean public image back then
ritter89 7 months ago
funny to be the one who wrote that and killed her...
Guldmedalj 9 months ago 5
@Guldmedalj Na, that was just a rumor that got misreported as fact, which then wound up in the film. That statement (about her weight) wasn't in the article or any articles, in fact. Also, eating disorders don't get set off by a single negative comment. It's complex and multifaceted disorder. If every negative comment about weight led to anorexia, 90 percent of girls in the US woulds never make it out of puberty alive
ritter89 7 months ago
Anyone else think that the actress who plays her looks a bit like Emma Watson?
redeyedangel09 10 months ago 4
@EDzMyHomie Hey, i'm trying tu sub this movie in spanish, but I can't understand what did they say from 8:06 to 8:20 can you help me, please?
abysskater 11 months ago
@abysskater KAREN: "I get such butterflies." AGNES: "Karen, you're not eating." KAREN: "I'm... I'm just excited about being home. Besides, I'm watching my weight." HAROLD: "You look wonderful. I'll bet on that tour you have all those fellows beating down your door." KAREN: "Yeah, right, Dad."
arfies 5 months ago
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@abysskater KAREN: "I get such butterflies." AGNES: "Karen, you're not eating." KAREN: "I'm... I'm just excited about being home. Besides, I'm watching my weight." HAROLD: "You look wonderful. I'll bet on that tour you have all those fellows beating down your door." KAREN: "Yeah, right, Dad."
arfies 5 months ago
I have enjoyed watching this, thank you, to whoever went through the trouble to record it and post! Thank you:) I loved her voice!!
esp0661 11 months ago 6
that just shows, that when people make negitive comments about someone physical apperiance, it really can cause damange. whether or not you mean what you say, it can ruin someones life.
lace2u1 1 year ago 4
I always said that the media and public were at fault for Karen's death. She was already showing signs of anorexia, but being called names like that in the media is what threw her into overdrive. It's a shame she met such a tragic end. She was far from fat. Though this music was long before my time I've always loved The Carpenters since the first time I heard them. God bless you Karen!
BabyDayDay31382 1 year ago 19
@BabyDayDay31382 There actually was no "chubby sister" article in Billboard. After this TV movie, Billboard got hate mail, but they were all, "WTF? We'd never write anything like that!"
arfies 11 months ago 4
@BabyDayDay31382 I truly believe that the media and the business makes most of them develop eating disorders and addictions. It truly does. Because the media loves perfection. It's such a backstabbing industry.
JoLeana76 3 months ago
Used to put 6d in a juke box to listen to these!
aTruster 1 year ago
The actress playing Karen Carpenter looks a tad like a young Anne Bancroft to me.
showersinger547 1 year ago
CHUBBY?!?!! WTF!? I must be a effing whale then!! are you freaking kidding me?! The person that said that deserves to rot in hell.
PumkinBears 1 year ago 13
Richard really regretted this being made from what I've heard and seen. At the time it was made though, he thouTght that he should have it done before someone else did. The book, Little Girl Blue, is probably a very accurate biography. In it, the mom really gets blamed for a lot. She favored Richard and wasn't at all demonstrative of affection. Lots of people thought that she was a bitch. The dad was really nice according to the book. I rember the day Karen died. I was heartbroken.
mjimme 1 year ago
@cyphrinfinity that's definitely part of it, but she was always painfully shy too, she felt more comfortable in the background. And her mother always made Richard out to be the real star of the family, so she never felt that she deserved it. Sad really.....
tmwalkerm 1 year ago
CHUBBY SISTER? CHUBBY FUCKTARD IS WHAT YOU ARE.
nikkimoll 1 year ago
Fuck Billboard who said Karen Carpenter was chubby. Karen was beautiful! I don't blame the guys trying to bust down her down. I think I would've been one of those groupies.
hoorano 1 year ago
just love that voice, thats what its all about, shame that the media makes and breaks you, as always.
jeangunst1966 1 year ago
There are two things I noticed. She looked into the mirror that made her look fat. We used to have them in the fun houses when I was a kid. They would distort your image. So everytime Karen looks in a mirror she sees herself as fat no matter how thin she was. The other is, she wanted to stay behind the drums, but the people around her were constantly controlling her. They wanted her out front, and they would not listen to her. Then she gets home and mom starts to control.
ileftbyheartbhind 1 year ago 2
She wanted to be behind those drums, because she love to play, and they were her security blanket. Here was again, you can see how everyone wanted to control her.
ileftbyheartbhind 1 year ago
Reasons of why many famous go to the pills... because of the criticism of people. Bad people who dont make the money they make just only watching tv and drinking tea......
4everNewLife 1 year ago
Karen was already suffering from self esteem issues and to read the piece in the media just made things worse, people think ,the next time you say something to another person that might attack their self esteem have a thought of what could happen to them, just as what happened to Karen. We sometimes speak without realising the harm we might cause.
You just never know if others can take it, help prevent the same thing that happened to Karen, many people out there are suffering in silence.
myfeeling4you 1 year ago 4
i've had eating disorder for 4 years off and on. there are times where i feel like i really have a handle on things and then there are times where it truely does completely takes over my life, but even when i feel like i doing okay with things every little comment that people say weather its a complement or insalt i always relate it to my weight or the way i look. 1 guy at my work told me i was "kinda chubby'' it was a major trigger for me. i cried while i was out on the sales floor
cpotts339 1 year ago
@cpotts339 and purged my dinner that night threw exercise for 3 1/2 hours on the treadmill. people really dont know how much the things they say can trigger or reinforce an issue
cpotts339 1 year ago
whoever wrote that article deserved to die- not karen. i cant beleive she actually believed what she read! :(
dalivsta 1 year ago
@dalivsta I really not impressed with the actress portraying Karen in this movie I think that Karen Allen should of got the part as she resembles Karen Carpenter so much face wise etc.?
MyREDTAIL 1 year ago
Isn't it amazing that she never had voice lessons and was THIS GOOD?!! ....yet she wanted to be known as the drummer who sang rather than the singer who played the drums.
karenaperville 1 year ago 4
Isn't it amazing that she never had voice lessons and was THIS GOOD?!!
karenaperville 1 year ago
Wow that is impressive. Luther Vandross covered a Carpenters song! Sweet!!!
StarChyld4 1 year ago
The culture of thinness is just mind control to benefit some a-holes who want to make money. It got taken to the extreme, because it taps into survival, self-esteem, anxiety, worthy-of-love issues all at the same time. Those who profit and benefit from it are mostly advertisers and mentally ill fashion designers. That's why this world is so crazy--the crazy get the run of the place.
RLviddy 1 year ago
It bothers me how her mother is so concerned about Karen's weight when it's ok for Richard to take drugs to help him sleep. HELLO...it's just as bad!
JeniBurton213 1 year ago
@JeniBurton213 Not in her mind. Crazy people don't always think straight.
PrincessKLS 1 year ago
@PrincessKLS See people like you really piss me off, she was NOT CRAZY, she was sick, get that straight dumbass.....
tmwalkerm 1 year ago 2
This is truely sad to see her worrying about her weight when she was already skinny.
They're not drugs, they're perscription meds. Haha wow.
BL80488 1 year ago 2
Yes, it was definitely wrong for that person, who ever they were, to call her "chubby." It was not only inaccurate, but very insensitive. But you have to remember that that was only a trigger for her developing anorexia. Yes, other peoples' opinions, words and actions can really hurt and damage us but we're still responsible for ourselves. If Karen had been healthy to begin with, she would've been able to let that comment go in one ear and out the other.
stitchesful 1 year ago
It's so sad how one little comment, whether it be true or false can kick off something like that!!:(
Msrjs078308 1 year ago
i still dislike her mother.
nikolexoh 1 year ago
i can't believe anyone would call her chubby..she was so beautiful.. if she was chubby then i must be a whale...heaven got another beautiful angel that day :/ RIP Karen.
LuluLiefdeHaat 1 year ago 6
Their mum was wrong to keep giving Richard pills, According to this she's the one that gave him his first sleeping pills and in this scene she's asking him if he is still taking the pils she gave him. Then he develops a drug addiction later on.
narrowayer 1 year ago
Actually, the report about 'chubby' was referring to Richard IRL, not Karen.
ktscarlett66 1 year ago
CHUBBY SISTER? CHUBBY SISTER? SHE WAS IN PERFECT SHAPE!
The person that called her chubby, is a stupid, dinosaur poop, asshole who has no intention of living.
nikkimoll 1 year ago 86
@nikkimoll I agree..Stupid SOB
thurin68 1 year ago
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@nikkimoll exactly!! the society was, is and will be cruel, superficial and stupid!
naevyanmetal 9 months ago
@nikkimoll It never happened, one article called Richard chubby not Karen.
msjosephine2 3 months ago
That's "chubby", huh? Whatever! Who the hell said that all men are into "stick figures"? When I was growing up, the girls we considered fine were thick in the bust, hips, and butt. We pretty much ignored the bony girls. Hasn't changed much for me as a grown man.
rpm8064 1 year ago
People forget what you say,people forget what you do,but people don't forget if you'd hurt their feeling.
We should look in a person what she/he has,not what the person doesn't have.
R.I.P,Karen.
alexthebullo 1 year ago 4
I would kill the guy that said she was chubby. May he burn in hell for being responsible for her spiral to death!.
daveandcliff 1 year ago
From the movie, we can tell that Richard Carpenter in real life has been and is still is the loving brother towards her sister Karen.
studentrebel 1 year ago 2
Karen quoted these exact words, "You can never be too rich or too thin." Well, I guess you CAN be too thin because that was, essentially, the cause of her death =( ... In the process, though, people suffering from eating disorders are destroying their bodies - basically a slow suicide. The body becomes compromised by the disease, mainly the cardiovascular system, the direct cause of Karen's demise, and organ failure is often inevitable (and often irreversible).
Brooke684 1 year ago 4
wtf. how was she even chubby???? shes skinny!
DemiSelenaFan02 1 year ago
I like this video, but honestly feel it does not do justice to what a great talent she was. I suppose there are a "few' inaccuracies , so why hasn't there been a better "docu-grama" made about her life. In so many ways, she has been forgotten even though she had that flawless voice. Maybe someday.
louise4053 1 year ago 2
@louise4053 dont worry hollywood is remaking every other movie, why not this one right?
HoshiChun 1 year ago
just ONE word...thats all it takes :(
rondawalker 1 year ago 4
The movie is about a family of people who were human and loved each other dearly. We all have ways of coping with life. Some of those ways are healthy, and some are destructive. I'm not trivializing, I'm simply stating the common threads we all share.
embeegee 1 year ago 2
who cares if she was a little chubby then?? dont even think she was really chubby, she looked ok! damn people who make her feel she wasnt beautiful!
mushymunch28 1 year ago
@mushymunch28 You've got that right - for sure! Those people you refer to are just people who don't care in the least for their fellow human beings. They care only to find fault, whether there or not - "talking heads"
louise4053 1 year ago
"women are supposed to be thin now" :::Cringing:::
rubix110 1 year ago
@rubix110 We are supposed to be thin
ultravioletskies07 1 year ago
@ultravioletskies07 Says who???
louise4053 1 year ago
@louise4053 Says health. I refuse to believe that you are healthier at an obese weight, sorry.
ultravioletskies07 1 year ago
@ultravioletskies07 you do not have to be thin to healthy, obese is not healthy but people can be healthy without being thin.
AliceCullen10 1 year ago
@louise4053 I know quite a lot about eating disorder tyvm, you truly did me no favor by posting that useless explanation on my page. My original comment on this video was to user, Rubix who was commenting on the line in the movie: "women are supposed to be thin"... I responded: "We are supposed to be thin?" and then you came back with the, "Says who?"... to which I refuted: "To health". I don't understand what you needed to say anything further for. As far as I'm concerned it was finished there.
ultravioletskies07 1 year ago
What is the name of the song they are rehearsing???
leroy214 1 year ago
@leroy214 the song is called "love is surrender"
mushymunch28 1 year ago
i hate when they do that when an already thin girl gets an ED. it makes more sense if she is a bit chubby or curvy or average or something. its more relatable and less annoying
bunnyuky 1 year ago
She was so insecure about her weight,
small comments became a very big
thing to this woman. People can be
so cold and judgemental of others, but
they can not see their own flaws and
problems.
wegersfour 1 year ago
@wegersfour You're (unfortunately) so right in your observation.
louise4053 1 year ago
If she was 'chubby' then I must be obese.
danbiize 1 year ago 5
Very Sad movie! i kinda feel
her pain in a way
blackbarbiie89 1 year ago
@blackbarbiie89 Know just what you mean. Can't help but empathize with her problem.
louise4053 1 year ago
I remember a long time ago somebody writing something about me which drove me to the depths of depression. It nearly ended my life.
hollyhillboy 2 years ago
Karen Carpenter had a very beautiful, pure and angelic voice
baggergurl16 2 years ago 6
yea.. That's my happysong:)
grevenpopen 2 years ago
hmm.. I think this movie shows just one side of Karen. From what I understand she had a great sence of humor! Who we see here is only the destructive, anorectic, poor Karen that most people NEVER got to know.
It's about time we made a movie focusing on the music, the cohesion within the band and Karens humoristic side, as well as the destructive side of the sister and brother duo.
I don't think Karen would have wanted us to remember her like this, feautured in this movie..
grevenpopen 2 years ago
WOW.. They turned on the Sound... HOW big of them... THANK YOU.... This is what we wanted... You should never SILENCE one of the GREATEST VOICES EVER...
78michaeljackson 2 years ago
one thing they didnt think of was when she was singing love is surrender his voice was singing too ... they should have had him down there with her singing !
bernie205 2 years ago 2
she was thin, whoever said she was chubby was on crack.
RainbowColin 2 years ago 107
You've got that right. Crazy, stupid comment may have lead to the worsening to her disease.
louise4053 2 years ago
well wmg totally ruind this for everyone yet again i was really getting into this movie aswell no point watching it now
rugrats1212 2 years ago
:6 she read "a chubby girl? in the newspaper"
:24 siging "we've only just begun"
2:21 karen let the drumm and goes to sing "love is surrender
4:09 karen is angry for the situation, and
discovered that the idea was from her brother.
4:56 karen sing superstar
8:02 her mother is worried about karen's diet. and karen remember that day when someone in the newspapper call her chubby. and mother told her that isn't fat now, on the contrary she's very thin.sorry my english but i'm spanish
chikpatty1 2 years ago
No audio? Nooooooooo!!
JoyNine7 2 years ago
@JoyNine7 its back now :)
hannahhazlehurst 2 years ago
Yay :) thanks for letting me know
JoyNine7 2 years ago
Ahh, I think I know which track WMG has found and claimed to have a copyright claim on to get YT to block the audio for this part of the movie;the original version of the song "we've only just begun" done by another artist used in the ad richard saw on the TV in which he got inspiration for the Carpenters cover version of the song. Even so why does WMG have a claim on it-the artist could dead by now!
AnthonyUK 2 years ago
Even if the artist is dead WMG own the copyright to it. They dont want people listening to it for free because they are greedy!
XxX0RagDoll0XxX 2 years ago
I do like Olivia when she does not sing disco music. I agree with you: the union of Agnetha and Frida (and Bjorn and Benny, of course) makes the sound of ABBA but... Agnetha is prettier for my taste :-)
It doesn't matter. The Carpenters, with or without the credit that they deserved, is one of the best. Their fans know it.
The song "Solitaire", sung by Karen, is one of the best songs I have ever heard.
rgnieto 2 years ago
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Yes, I like Solitaire too, in fact, they had plenty of brilliant songs... And to me, they achieved that wonderful sound mainly due to their almost magical harmony. Despite all the conflicts and difficulties Karen and Richard might have had between themselves, they have always remained a soulmates.... Such an incredible bond comes once in 100 years.
Nixe1007 2 years ago
I totally agree with you. What more can I say?
Well, I go to sleep, sorry. I will contact you when I finish the downloading of the movie and see it completely. If you don't mind, of course.
Огромное спасибо.
Твой испанский друг.
rgnieto 2 years ago
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you welcome and I hope you enjoy the movie)
Nixe1007 2 years ago
Of course ABBA was very popular all over the world. But The Carpenters deserve to have the same popularity, I think.
As I always say: Karen Carpenter, Olivia Newton-John, Kate Bush and Agnetha Fältskog (of ABBA) are the best female voices of pop in the second half of the 20th century. This is my humble opinion.
rgnieto 2 years ago
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Without any doubt they deserve not less credit than ABBA, but unfortunately, that's the way things turned for them(((
My list of best female voices in pop music is much much longer) To me Agnetha and Frida are equally good and only a synthesis of their voice gave that unique sound of ABBA. And frankly - I never liked Olivia Newton-John, although I know she was Karen's best friend...
Nixe1007 2 years ago
Thanks.
It's a pity, in Spain there were and are almost totally unknown. I don't even know if they came to sing here.
rgnieto 2 years ago
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From what I know, they never came neither to Spain, nor to my country - Russia, where they are also unknown. Carpenters were more popular in America and Japan, and ABBA was popular all over Europe...
Nixe1007 2 years ago
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Go to my profile, there you'll find link to the Part 4.
Nixe1007 2 years ago
thank you !!!
michichila 2 years ago
Doesn't work....just 10 seconds of worthless still image.
EyeHaveClass 2 years ago
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OMG.. People just forgot how to read.. Of course it is just image, I didnt post it on youtube since it forbidden! There is a direction to the link in video description.
Nixe1007 2 years ago
I apologize Nixe! I wasn't paying attention to the more info area. Anyways, thanks for saving the series and keeping this movie together!
EyeHaveClass 2 years ago
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Ok, nevermind... I hope you managed to watch the movie...
Nixe1007 2 years ago
Sure did, managed to watch the entire movie. But I just wished the ending could have been different. My ideal ending would be: Karen was saved at the hospital, a year later she met and married a successful, caring man. And on July 2009 Karen and her five children were performing guests at Michael Jackson's "This is it" concert in London.
EyeHaveClass 2 years ago
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Wow, that would be a perfect ending for anyone((( Even without Michael Jackson and her children....
But my ideal ending would be - Karen was saved at hospital, and afterwards she and Richard released their album, that become the most successful in their career. And they lived happily for ever and ever.
Nixe1007 2 years ago
I'm downloading every part of the film (audio and video) because here in Spain it is impossible to get this movie on DVD.
The program I use for downloading works only with youtube videos. Please what can I do? I have to have the other parts with sound and part 4 without sound? Please is it possible to upload this 4th part with audio, even in Rapidshare or Megaupload or so?
Please I need help.
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We all miss you, Karen. Rest in peace and God bless you.
rgnieto 2 years ago
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if you want I can upload the whole movie with great quality. much better than youtube.
Nixe1007 2 years ago
Nixe1007:
This would be fantastic! Please please do it, and send me a PM when you finish (if it is necessary).
I live in Spain and this movie has been never released here.
Thank you very much.
rgnieto 2 years ago
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But I've already sent it to you, check your inbox)
Nixe1007 2 years ago
Sorry, I had not check my inbox.
I'm going to start the downloading. See you when I finish.
Thank you so much. And God bless Karen.
rgnieto 2 years ago
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You welcome!
God bless Karen and all of her devoted fans)
Nixe1007 2 years ago
What track in this part is owned by WMG? Most of the film music is owned by A&M aka Universal Music Group! Warner sucks!
AnthonyUK 2 years ago
Oh please! Let us hear. Music will die one day....b/c of stupid copyright.
shannonm75 2 years ago
This sucks! C'mon..it's part of a movie!
myfamilynme 2 years ago
IT WAS A FILM!!!!! WTF?!
MimiFriday 2 years ago
wmg sucks ass. i want sound!
littlelotte689 2 years ago 4
Please, EDzMyHomie, can you send me a part 4? I would like to upload it somewhere else so everybody could see it...
hardcandy900 2 years ago
the song in the minute:2:00 which is?
cokofresh 2 years ago
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cokofresh 2 years ago
PLEASE!!!!! tell me the name of the song that she sings in the minute:1:50
cokofresh 2 years ago
From lip reading i'm guessing it's we've only just begun.
jadore23dior 2 years ago
ok thank you very much :-)
cokofresh 2 years ago
do you know the video of the song "a song for you"? :S
cokofresh 2 years ago
No sorry. "/
jadore23dior 2 years ago
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oh! thanks :o
cokofresh 2 years ago
really youtube?
of all the crap people upload you're gonna block the audio on the Karen Carpenter Story??
lizbethsr08 2 years ago 19
youtube sucks for blocking the audio!
AVALONFANINVA 2 years ago
Haya sido quien haya sido, póngaselo otra vez por favor!!!
ogomez02 2 years ago
¿Quién fue el tonto que le quitó el sonido a este video?
ogomez02 2 years ago
that sucks that there is no audio
selenawannabe 3 years ago
if i found out the media said something like that to my child i'd soo furious, be lke how dare you say that about my child, i'm the parent of the child not you people, i'll be the one telling my child if she/he needs to lose some weight.
sweetcupcake34 3 years ago 2
I bet the journalist that called Karen"chubby" feels sad
kimmarie801 3 years ago 6
I don't think that really happened - the one that was scared that Karen would realise just how much it was all about her wasn't a journalist that needed to put here down - druggie brother and paranoid person is who if you looked up the phsychology behind her demise is the main suspect.
Shesnoin 3 years ago
the psycology was within Karen and what triggered it was a comment made by a tabloid
kimmarie801 3 years ago 2
Thats close to the truth
Janvierireland 3 years ago 2
I don,t think one can pin all the blame on Richard,it was to do with the way that both Karen and Richard were reared,the mother/parents was fussy and overprotective as far as is known.
Janvierireland 3 years ago
Yeah, it's so easy to make Richard seem "bad guy", while Karen is always "sweet innocent angel", who was suppressed by her "druggie" brother. Don't make me laugh!
kshaligin 2 years ago
I'm always and forever be a Karen Carpenter fan for as long as i live!!!! It's your death anniversary on Feb.4~ miss you sooooo much:-( Sharifa
bloodhoundz143 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this I haven't seen this in years they should put it on t,v more often
allenshepard 3 years ago
She has such a soothing voice.If I was her kid I would beg her to sing me to sleep.lol
MIKEPRESL 3 years ago
its a shame the way the media puts pressure on women celebrities or not to lose weight! Even I feel the pressure and I am trying to recover from anorexia but it's hard with weight loss ads and shows this time of year!
:(
AVALONFANINVA 3 years ago 8
i know havn't the media learn something from this, doesn't it hit them in the head why stars get into this stuff, get into rehab
sweetcupcake34 3 years ago
Great movie!! i love the movie and their songs!!
Brittzie4806 3 years ago 2
it's amazing how much she looks like karen...wonder if she actually sang as well, or if it was just overdubs and lip synchs? val kilmer sang on the doors movie..i guess it could be possible. what a tragic loss. she was so beautiful..way to go media for making her go away.
DanWA73 3 years ago 2
Up to this point in this production the vocals are all actually Karen, except for the first partial rendition of "You'll Love Me" in a higher key.
no1cfielder 3 years ago
yeah
sweetcupcake34 3 years ago
she was NOT CHUBBY. i blame the media pressure for her anorexia and death!!!
AVALONFANINVA 3 years ago 17
Yes Avalon..no doubt that was crushing blow on her psyche to read that, and the beginning of her problem with anorexia, but its also about self-esteem & a good self-image. If she had that, she would be alive today....that I blame on the parents!
mitch629 3 years ago 2