Herodotus, being one of the foremost biographer in antiquity who lived in Greece at the time when the Macedonian king Alexander I was in power. When Alexander wished to compete and his Greek competitors tried to exclude him "that foreigners were not allowed" to take part. Alexander, however, proved "his Argive descent" and so was accepted as a Greek and allowed to enter for the foot-race. He came in equal first." book 5. 22....cont
First, notice that it's not Herodotus that says that the Macedonian kings were of Greek nationality, but the Macedonian kings as they themselves claim. Why is it then, no Spartan, Athenian or Argive felt constrained to prove to the others that he and his family were Helenes? But Macedonian kings seem hard put to argue in behalf of their Hellenic ancestry in the fifth century B.C. Even if one were to accept Herodotian stories about Alexander were true....cont.
But..following Herodotus..the stade- race competitors at Olympia thought the Macedonian was a foreigner (Hdt. 5.22: barbaros) Secondly, for his effort on behalf of the Greek cause against the Persians Alexander is known as "Philhellene". Now this is kind of odd to call a Greek a "friend of the Greeks". "This title", writes Borza, "is normally reserved for non-Greeks".
SKOPIANS WHY IS SO DIFFICULT TO UNTERSTUD YOU ARE NOT MACEDONIAN? YOU ARE NOT SPEAK GREEK MAYBE YOU ARE NOT LOOKLIKE GREEK. MACEDONIA IS GREEK FROM ANCIENT TIME.
In GREEK it means protector of men . It is a Greek name you asshole skopjans . Get over it. Why in the hell would this king a GREEK name ? Why you filthy cunts ?
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ . Αnybody who knows etymology of languages and is strong enough to recognize that the skopjan goverment has fucked him up with brainwashing, will admit after that that Alexander the one with a Greek language and NAME was Greek. Shut up already
first,why THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN COINS WERE IN GREEK LANGUAGE!?
AND SECOND,ALEXANDER THE GREAT LIVED IN MACEDONIA AND HE PARTICIPATED IN OLYMPIC GAMES,324 BC. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY GREEKS WERE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES,GREEK CITIZENS AND NO ONE ELLS.SO THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIA WAS A PART OF GREECE.
first,why THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN COINS WERE IN GREEK LANGUAGE!?
AND SECOND,ALEXANDER THE GREAT LIVED IN MACEDONIA AND HE PARTICIPATED IN OLYMPIC GAMES,324 BC. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY GREEKS WERE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES,GREEK CITIZENS AND NO ONE ELLS.SO THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIA WAS A PART OF GREECE.
first,why THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN COINS WERE IN GREEK LANGUAGE!?
AND SECOND,ALEXANDER THE GREAT LIVED IN MACEDONIA AND HE PARTICIPATED IN OLYMPIC GAMES,324 BC. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY GREEKS WERE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES,GREEK CITIZENS AND NO ONE ELLS.SO THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIA WAS A PART OF GREECE.
IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM,JUST SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
than a historical fact can not escape the word replaces the word Bulgarians sklavinas then in the ninth century it comes from the Jews who were settled in the Aegean Macedonians who lived in Thessaloniki and called them up sklavinas residents over the Aegean or the translation of the old Jewish means Thessaloniki residents over there from where comes the crucifix Misirkov means it comes down to what you have false history greeting from macedonia is eternal
“We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. - 19th century "Macedonian" national hero Krste Misirkov
@GemistusPletho than a historical fact can not escape the word replaces the word Bulgarians sklavinas then in the ninth century it comes from the Jews who were settled in the Aegean Macedonians who lived in Thessaloniki and called them up sklavinas residents over the Aegean or the translation of the old Jewish means Thessaloniki residents over there from where comes the crucifix Misirkov means it comes down to what you have false history greeting from macedonia is eternal
@makedoncheto from your answer I think YOU are STUPID because you didn't get it. What @GemistusPletho wrote was the words of one of your historians said about you . Your own historians admit that you are Bulgarians . You can not even understand a simple sentence , how will you understand history? ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ NEVER slavic mutated russian like skopje is. You are skopje and that you will remain ! The kings of ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ were all Greeks , proved by historians all over the world
@makedoncheto You have nothing to do with ancient Macedonians because they was Greeks.They had Greek names(search ancient Macedonian names,many of them had war-names),they spoke Greek(search and learn words at ancient objects BC)Do you know about Argeads or Timenides dynasty?All kings was Greeks!Do you know the Aristotle?He was Macedonian Greek from Stagira city!What philosopher taught Alexander the Great as a student?Nowhere can find ancient objects with Slavian words like your Slavic language.
you speak about language? the language that you call greek is really called KOINE, the people that live in todays modern greece were taught this language in school to have a unified language when Prince Otto of Bavaria became greeces first KING. he found the people living on the todays greek land were speaking multiple languages.. Turkish, Macedonian, Vlah, Gypsy.
@makedoncheto What it means ''κοινή γλώσσα'?do you know what it means?Translate then!SIMPLE GREEK. Do you know about Greek dialects?We have many dialects and many of them are difficult to understand because they have different idioms and speak fast,like Pontic Greek and Cypriot Greek.In Greek language we use the word ''γλώσσα''also for dialects!!!
@makedoncheto You are not answer me...What do you know about Agreads or Timenides dynasty?Where is Aristotle from?Which nationality was Aristotle?You know Bavarian king of Greece Otto Friedrich Ludwig von Wittelsbach?Αfter the assassination of Kapodistrias,minister of first Republic Of Greece,Bavarians wanted to make us protectorate but after revolution in 3 September 1843 we exiled him.
So you see there needed to be a unified language so the reintroduced the KOINE language of the ancients and re invented it for the modern greek land. so this is why you can read the ancient writing.
for example, if everone in my country learned Ancient Egyptian language, then we can claim anything that has that writing??
you see how stupid you are. greece is not the Ancient city states... it is modern greece with a mixure of Albanian Turish, Macedonian, Vlahs & Gypsies
@makedoncheto Why Ancient Macedonian didn't spoke and wrote Slavic?Why Alexander the Great didn't use Slavic language and culture for his empire but only Greek?Macedonians was like Spartans they had war style,they had war Greek names!Romans used their language and culture because they was different nation,Macedonians use Greek language and culture because was Greeks,often fought against Peonians,Peonians was NOT Greeks,maybe you are from them.Maybe your nation is Peonian but I'm not sure.
The ancient Macedonians used their own vernacular, Macedonian language. There are number of testimonials from the ancient historians in support of this fact. For instance, the Greek historian Plutarch (I AD), describing a quarrel between Alexander The Great and one of his friends wrote that Alexander "jumped on his feet and in Macedonian called on his shield-bearers"11).
@makedoncheto I'm not sure about Peonian nation...Macedonian is Greek dialect.Do you know about Greek dialects?Plutarch in his work:On Alexander's fortune or virtue, ReasonB,paragraph11 states,about the relationship between Macedonians and Thebans''The (Luck) but once roused against him(referring to Alexander) Thebes and brought to the Greek way of war and the terrible need to be protected against male same-sex and family, with murderous battles, with iron and fire, which had a very sad ending''
You want to know why the writing is all in Koine?
Koine was the "at then" known the ELITE language "Language of trade", just like English is today.
This is why there is so much Koine writing.
now just because the people that live in todays modern greece learnt Koine in school - "meaning this was not the mother tounge... " learnt to read and write Koine it doesnt mean you can claim the history as yours.
@makedoncheto You know nothing about Greek language...shame for your comments,shame for your videos then.You don't want to know how Greek language works,learn deeper and then talk! It's a favor to yourself for wakeup to see the truth.translate the word ''koine''=κοινή=common means simple Greek!I'm telling to you again,LEARN ABOUT GREEK DIALECTS!so simple.
@makedoncheto Learn:The English language has 490,000 words of which 41,615 words. is from the Greek language .. (Guinness Book)
The Greek with the mathematical structure of the language of information and new generation of sophisticated computers, because only in that there are limits.
@makedoncheto The Greek and Chinese. are the only languageswith constant living presence of the same folks ..... and at the same place for 4,000 years. All languagesare hiddengreeks, rich in loans from the mother language, Greek. (Francisco Adrados, linguist). The Greek language works on a mathematical model. It is the only language that is semasilogicall,naming. ;)
The greek language you call today is actually call KOINE, which was adopted by the Modern greeks when Otto, Prince of Bavaria, became the first King of greece and called "Othon, King of Greece". He arrived in modern greece and found such a mixure of peoples Albanians, Turkish, Macedonians, Vlahs, Gypies, and to unite these people he introduced the Koine language and called it Greek. Koine was taught and not passed down through family. the greeks and not ancient greeks.
@makedoncheto AAhahahahahahahaaa...! Are you dreaming or are you drunked?Who said those inaccuracies and lies?All those are from your brain or you read somewhere?hahaha...soooo confuzed...! Do you know about first republic of Greece?Greeks still speak Greek throw the centuries,you can see it in archaic greek tribe of 5000 people now in north Turkey ,they can't write Greek but they still speak Greek(romeyka) throw the centuries.
@makedoncheto Millions of Greeks in Othoman Empire,could not be taught,could not write but did not lose their Greekness for thousand of years.Macedonia(Μακεδονία) name is from the name Macedanos(Μακεδανός),Macednos(Μακεδνός)from makos(μάκος),mikos(μήκος)means length and edanos(εδανός) means delightful,odorous.In Greek mythology you can see some Greek mens with the name Macedon.Macedonians are Greeks,kings of Argeads Dynasty told about their lineage to Heracles,they had also the name Heracleides.
@makedoncheto Koine Greek (Greek: Ελληνιστική Κοινή "Hellenistic common [language]", or ἡ κοινὴ διάλεκτος, "the common dialect", also simply called koine "common [language]", or "Alexandrian dialect", "common Attic" or "Hellenistic Greek") is the universal dialect of the Greek language spoken throughout post-Classical antiquity (c. 300 BC – AD 300), developing from the Attic dialect, with admixture of elements especially from Ionic.Get it?It's simple to understand in wikipedia.
@makedoncheto Why accept something that I'm not?All my grandparents was Greeks,parents of them Greeks etc.,all in my genealogical tree was Greeks,none from another nation!Off course you don't mean ancient Greece because we had thousands kings haha,you mean the Bavarian king Otto...hahaha,before him we had minister of new repuplic of Greece,his name Ioannis Kapodistrias,do you know him?Do you what happen with Otto?hahahaa Skopians hane no or stupid arguments,SHAME!
@makedoncheto It doesn't,can you prove that?We have many Albanians in Greece but they are so different from us,they have many different characteristics,it's very easy to distinguish a Greek guy from Albanian!I see a racist to you for Albanians or not,I hope not!Also you must know сите цареви во Agreads или Timenides или Heraclides династија беше грчката
ha ha ha ha, so now you say there are others than greeks living in greece? there are also Macedonians in greece that have different characteristics, its very easy to distinguish a Macedonian guy from a greek.
Also you must know that: Οι Έλληνες στην Ελλάδα δεν είναι πραγματικά Έλληνες. Είναι μια mixure της τουρκικής, Αλβανών, οι πολίτες της πΓΔΜ, vlahs και των Τσιγγάνων.
Μακεδονία ανήκει σε makedonians. Ποτέ δεν ελληνική
@makedoncheto Why are you say always bullshit without evidence?Do you know about kings of Argeads Dynasty?They told about their lineage to Heracles(Do you think Hercules is fyromian?hahaha stupid propaganda),they had also the name Heracleides!!!Alexander the Great proved many times his Greekness ,and all Macedonian kings before him!Ancient Macedonian names was all Greek(see etymologies!!!).
@makedoncheto Everyone in world can distinguish a Greek guy from other nations!Last summer,I was in German,for a big festival,I walked out in the streets and I was hear from everywhere whisper''he is Greek,he is Greek''and they loked me,5 days.I was on my own,not talking,looked like a lot of people around me and Ι did nothing to make that characterized the Greeks,my clothes was like everyone around me.You can't distinguish a Greek guy from a Turk,an Albanian,a Slav and Gypsy?hahaha it's so easy!
@makedoncheto Wow!You can't distinguish a Greek guy from Albanian guy...incredible and exciting!Probably you are blind!I'm full of fool but you are the best! lolski monkeydonski hahahahaaski...I like the detailed and documented opinions you have...
you say i cant tell the difference because i am blind??? you are an idiot.
I can tell the difference between a greek and an Albanian. the one like you who says they are greek, still look like your ancestors the Albanians, and the Albanians who admit they are Albanian look just like you.
the so called greeks and the Albanians look the same.
@makedoncheto Allways bullshit theories you have like the theory about
Greeks and Africans...You can't distinguish white from black,thats why you are blind,maybe shortsighted person or you have colorblindness.You can't distinguish A Greek guy from Albanian guy but I can do :D*These nations have many different characteristics,see some photos and compare .Same blood?You mean about all humans are brothers,nice theory but some races are so differents from others,like Greeks and Albanians.
i have never said in our discussions that you look African.
I did however say you look Albanian, i can see your profile picture.
Greek people and Albanian people have similar facial features plus they are both hairy people naturally.
i know it upsets you that people can see that Greeks and Albanians look the same, and that if you put two and two together you can understand how the Albanians have now become the modern Greeks.
@makedoncheto I know you didn't told about Africans but your theory is same bullshit! You have many Albanians in your country and you can't see the differences.I have the same problem,I can't distinguish a Fyromian guy from Albanian but I know they have different characteristics.For example Albanians have more flatter,long face,with smaller eyes than Greeks.Some Turks are like Greeks but Albanians have many differents,ιn Greece we distinguish them from afar,is very easy to recognize a foreign.
@makedoncheto Ιs very easy to recognize an Albanian but you can't.Greeks have farther snout,bigger eyes,bigger mouth,more round head.Albanians have flatter,long face,with smaller eyes,I'm not like Albanian,I have not any relationship with Albanian, none of my relative is Albanian,only one uncle is foreign-German,but he is husband of my aunt,we haven't same blood,all in my genealogical tree are Greeks.You are off topic,the problem is that you have not any relationship with real Macedonians.
@makedoncheto Do you know about grandfather of Nikola Gruevski,father of his father?He was Greek,his name was Grouios Nicholas,from the village Achlada,Florina,who was seriously injured in Albanian-Greek forehead against Italians and bowed to 19/11/1940 in Military Hospital of Florina,at age 29.His mother is Μoglenitovlacha.His real surname is Grouios,his father change the surname to Gruefski and acquired citizenship.
@makedoncheto You have problems with Greeks,with Albanians,with Bulgarians,with Serbs,with Ecumenical Patriarchate of Orthodox Church because you have fake country(like Turkish fake country in Cyprus),you sleal Greek history.Your geographic place was not in Ancient Macedonia,your place was Paionia,you have not any relationship with ancient Macedonians because ancient Macedonian was Greeks,had Greek names,gods,language,culture,nowhere Slavic like your race.
@makedoncheto Also many Turks have Greek blood from mass kidnapping of many thousand Greek childrens,at Othoman Empire in Greece,to make them muslim and fighter.You know for 400 years we are slaves by Turks.Also we still have Greek blood,we have same customs and traditions for thousand years like Dionysian festivals,we still have ancient Greek names and Jew from Christianity names of course like Christ,Mary,Jacob,Isaac,names from saints of Christianity except ancient Greek names.
@makedoncheto the same candy chew then''I am Macedonian,I speak Macedonianianian...But ancient Macedonian spoken Greek,Macedonia is Greek name,you can see it in mythology,in writings of ancient historians,on ancient objects,in ancient Macedonian names and etymologies.For example you can't read ancient Macedonian murals,writings,words on ancient Macedonian coins etc.I can read because I have the same language with ancient Macedonians because I am Greek.Do you get it or not?
10 points for the correct A:) WHO SAID .... "we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" fact "We are Slavs. That's who we are! fact We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. fact fact Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (A.D) FACT!! DO YOU NEED HELP ?... (Kiro Gligorov 1st President) FACT!!!
I think guys you are blind or something is not right with your eyes. The Greece is made in 1800s (will check exact year and will make the comment later when i get home from my holidays) the modern Greece (if you can call Greece modern) is made after 1913 when they got more than 51 per cent of the Macedonian territory.
What the Hell you are talking about? Greece what? There is many versions of the history but this is joke right? If not you are crazy to think that you can hold that land for muc
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?
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no need to feel shame Slavs, think of your kids how ashame will be for you!
Not again! Theese videos made by who? who is he? you dont know him but you belive him! Read the history of the real historians not the youtube videos which everyone can make easily! open your eyes! your mind... Greece is Makedonian :) what is this all about... ok you wankt the name? take it but you are not Macedonians!
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you... " Alexander to Persians
that dude should search the Byzantine empire BEFORE the turks,Macedonia was Greek for 3000 years,there were no Slavs,Albanians and other gipsys like them
Dear slavs of F.Y.R.O.M. Dear countries that recognosed this morphom as "MACEDONIAS" Let us be serious. Please provide us a single one ancient macedonian script that is not written in Greek. Then we all will recognize that ancient Macedonians were not Greeks. End of story.
A legent says that Alexander wanted, to participate in the olympic games, when someone accused him, that he was not greek, he became so mad that he almost smash his head. Macedonians were Dories, one of the greek tribes. Athinians were Ionians, an other greek tribe, thats why they consider them foreigners. Anyway FYROM you are full of shit, we show you evidence, you show as bullshit
Republic of Macedonia is Slavic/Bulgarian and Albanian State.The people of Macedonia are Albanian and Slavic assimilated Aromanians.Slavic "Macedonians"have no connection with true macedonions .Greeks had some cultural influence on the Macedonian nobles,but considerd them barbarian,different.Macedonians are closely related with Illyrians and Thracians,Albanian anccestors.
WHAT FUCKING GREEK INVASION OF MACEDONIA IS THIS FUKING COMPUTER GENERATED VOICE MONKEY AUTHOR TALKING ABOUT...WHAT BULLSHIT IS THAT...GREEKS WERE ALWAYS LIVING THERE...fyromian propaganda has reached its heights it looks like...You Fyromians are actually running out of lies...soon your country will be starving and the only way to enter the EU would be
to forget about the propaganda game that has started...The fact that the Slav Fyromians came to the Balkans in the 6th century AD automatically proves that they have nothing to do with Alexandros o megas's Macedonia...I mean its common sense...Its ok ALL IN DUE TIME...THIS BULLSHIT GAME OF HISTORIC TRUTH AND IDENTITY THAT HAS BEEN INITIATED BY THESE UNIDENTIFYED SLAVS (who are actually not unidentifyed as they are Bulgars) WILL END
the Ottomans captured Constantinople in 1453 and advanced southwards into Greece, capturing Athens in 1458. The Greeks held out in the Peloponnese until 1460.. Does it make any sense? You guys really need to get educated on Classical Greek, Medieval times, Byzantian Empire, Ottoman Empire and the Greek War of Independence.Ohh and i almost forgot read up on Modern Greece as well. get your self education and then you will understand why over 300 Scholars have signed petition to OBAMA
Now what happened when Greece was under the Ottoman empire? for 400 Greece North, South, East and West was all under the huge and power all mighty Turkish Ottoman Empire. The Byzantine Empire, which had ruled most of the Greek world for over 1100 years, had been fatally weakened since the sacking of Constantinople by the Crusaders in 1204.
look it up on Youtube, Wiki and you will see that Greece played a major role during the medieval era. Now I am not being racist, I am speaking the truth because I actually read books and do my own research!
The Greeks had to fight the Turks for there independence in 1821.WE actually had to fight a WAR if that makes any sense. we fought off the Turks and claimed back our " Territory".. Greece was under Turkish occupation for over 400 years! NOW 400 years BEFORE that, Greece and constantinople WAS A HUGE EMPIRE in the Medieval times, was the centre of the world, in Trade and religion (Agia Sophia). like New York is today. Its called Medieval times
FYROMS seem to be confused about Classical Greece AND Greece in the Medieval times. Alexander the Great was apart of the Classical Greek era. He was Hellenic... Do know what AC and BC stand for? Now let me inform you because you Skopes find it hard to understand... like many nations,( China, Japan, Epypt, Iran etc ) Greece has a VAST history which goes back further then 4000 years. Thats why we have historians, scholars and professors so people like SKOPES dont distort and fabricate history.
And to answer your question towards the end of your movie,Because you are so ignorent to do your own research. Ancient Greece was a collection of Greek city-states. Because Greece was not yet one country, there was no central government in ancient Greece. Athens, Sparta, Tripoli, Messinians, Troy, Pella, Macedonia etc where all seperate city states.There was no Greece! King Phillip of Macedon unified the Greek city states and this is edvident all over Greece and Alexander Spread Hellenism in Asi
your video is all talk but doesnt actually prove any points AND you havent actually shown or linked it to any historical facts.... and don't forget Australia is one of the 10% like you claim.. its much more then 10% its more like 38%(as wiki states) and they are 90% of the EU nations . Your country is a poor developing nation and you guys better smarten up and stop provoking you neighbours. Greece invested 1 billion dollars in Skopje which created 10,000 jobs!!!
who is Miller? he is only a historian in Greece? hahah he is a Classical Scholar!! do you know what that means? he is educated!!!! not brain washed monkey like yourself! by the way, he wasn't the only SCHOLAR who participated in the letter petition to Obama, it's a list of 357 professors and growing!!!! see for your self do some research... The scholarly community has a duty to preserve historic truth you are just uneducated and your whole country is brainwashed.
Macedonia is Greece forever!All the ancient writers quote that many many times in their books!!Herodotus,Strabo,Curtius Rufus,ect say clearly my truth,the greek truth!!
LEARN HISTORY!!!!!The real history and not the creation of the National Centre of "History" in Scopje!!!!!!!!
Everyone knows Macedonians are Greek , even you. Have you made absolutely sure that what you said and told us is true?" NO!. By saying that do you want to tell us something Good? No! . So, if what you want to tell us is neither True nor Good nor even Useful, why tell it to us at all?" U should now be embarrassed
Blah blah. Hundreds of accredited ancient history professors from nations around the world are wrong. A FYROM ultranationalist is right. Whatever.
"Men of Athens, In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek" - Excerpt of speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, " Histories", 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)
@makedoncheto AXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAX This sounds FUN :D Hey, guys, all of you.... why don't you ask some old macedonians from Macedonia if they are Bulgarians..... ?? If you do (asking people above 60 y.o) they will say that they are BULGARIANS!!!! So STFU!
@makedoncheto AXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAX This sounds FUN :D Hey, guys, all of you.... why don't you ask some old macedonians from Macedonia if they are Bulgarians..... ?? If you do (asking people above 60 y.o) they will say that they are BULGARIANS!!!! So STFU! Oh, and btw, I know 100ts of "macedonians" that knows the truth and most of them say that they would prefer to die rather calling themself Macedonians...since they were Greeks
stupid greek gay people i cant stand u...leave macedonia alone,before another alexander is born and burn your gay country forever!!!!hate u for being LIERS!!!
Look brainless Bulgarian of Vardasca,you leave Macedonia alone because you have nothing to do with it!
Macedonia is Greece and you people of FYROM-Vardasca are Slavs(with Bulgarian origin)who came in this area in 6th century A.D,1000 years after Alexander the Great(Kiro Gligorov-Your first President)
And if Alexander the Great,the Greek king of greek kingdom of Macedonia(Wikipedia encyclopedia) is born then you must to fear because he burn your fake creation of old communists!!!!!
Gays?Look man,the only gay here is your country which hide onself under the protection of USA and Turkey and it pretending the hard giant because it knows that it have this protection!!!!!!!!
Ancient Macedonians considered themselves Greeks and descendants of Greek heros Herculis and Achilleas like the other Greeks!They considered Greeks as brothers with the same language,the same blood and the same visions!!Look the history of Curtius Rufus and Herodotus!!!Wikipedia encyclopedia include ancient Macedonians in the list of Ancient Greeks and it support that Macedonians are Greeks!!!!!
Macedonians were an ancient greek tribe and part of general Greek Dorian tribe,one of the three basic ancient greek tribes!They spoke a greek dialect,they wrote greek,they believed to Greek Olympians Gods and they participated in all Greek festivals(Olympic,Delphian,ect,) and the common life of Greeks!!!!120 historians support the same opinion!!!!!
Macedonia was never a region of Greece. On the contrary, ancient Greece was subjected to Macedonia. In 1913, modern Greece and her Balkan allies partitioned Macedonia. If today a portion of Macedonia belongs to Greece, it is by virtue of an illegal partition of the whole and occupation of a part of Macedonia.
The ancient Macedonians regarded the ancient Greeks as neighbors, not as kinsmen. The Greeks treated the Macedonians as foreigners ("barbarians") whose native language was Macedonian, not Greek.
The ancient Macedonians were a distinct European people, conscious and proud of their nationality, their customs, their language, and their name. The same applies to the modern Macedonians today.
The ancient historians support clearly that Macedonia is part of Greek world and the Macedonians are part of Greek nation!Learn history of Herodotus,Plutarch,Rufus,Thoukidides,Dionusios o Sikeliotis,ect!!Learn the historical books of modern historians!!They support too that Macedonia is 100% Greece and this country which call itself Macedonia is a political game without truth and right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only the sun is older from the lies of FYROM-Vardasca!Do not exist a "macedonian" minority in Greece because the real Macedonians are Greeks and these people who call themselves only Macedonians are creation of FYROM!Their part taked only 0.09% at the last greek elections!Where are the 300.000 members of this fake minority?Poor people!!!You know nothing!And the world support Greece for this because it also recognize only the mouslim minority in Greece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The truth about Macedonia:90 countries recognize your country as FYROM or its never recognize you!!All the international organizations recognize you as FYROM too!!And all the universities of the world,even from the countries which recognize you as "Macedonia" support that Macedonia is Greece and Macedonians are Greeks!!Your country have nothing to do with the ancient Macedonia and Alexander the Great!!LONG LIVE GREECE and MACEDONIA!!
you are been used by the illuminati the masons and the jews(that controls the 90%of the countrys) to hit Greece nothing more all of those you say is theyrs propagada,wake up before itsw too late for you
How long you will lie the whole world that there is no Macedonian minority in Greece?
Though nearly 1 century Greek government implements
ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Macedonian population in Aegean Makadonija (now northern Greece) We are here, and today, more than ever, we are firmly convinced that soon Greek lies will goes to the garbage of history. Forever!
I guess if the greeks were right, THEN the world would not recognize Republic of Macedonia....
well 90% of the WORLD has recognized Macedonia, which shows they know that greece is a RACIST country that LIES to its own people and to the world about Macedonia.
Here is Just some of the countries that Recognized Republic of Macedonia
USA, England, China, Russia, Canada, India, Ireland, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, Argentina, Austria, Hungary, Romania, Czech Republic..ect
Macedonia warfare from the begining of time with many enemis with Atihens, Rome with mighty Persia she take up sword Byzantine gun and sheath knife on Otoman Empire.
Warfare Macedonia and today with historical heredity of City ATINENS! Seh was in war always and will fight to stav PROUD and unruly forever, allwasy own never on someone else's!
@makedoncheto the only one who lied you is your schools,Greece is 3000 older than FYROM,the only one who lies is you,and you are trying to take our glorious Macedonia,the true Macedonia is Greek
well little boy who is 15 Years old, i think your mummy and daddy have lied to you, and made you look very silly... look i know that is past your bed time, but the TRUTH is Macedonians are real and we will not be Blackmailed by the greek government to change our name. We are Macedonians from Macedonia.
slavic people appeared 1000-1200 years after alexander the great and they never had authentic names because the never had a nation...they were slaves...even the slavic alphabet used for the bible was made of 2 greeks...i m 15 years old and i feel sorry for you...it would be funny it wasnt so pathetic...
How is it Greek lies. World History books and historians tell that Macedonia is Greek. WORLD HISTORY. Why do you people have to miss the obvious. You Skopians always go after the little details to prove something. For example. Scientists use a black man and they try to find out if he is white, by testing all of the little DNA in him, when they are missing the obvious. That is what you Skopians do.
Macedonia is one and its greek.I am tired to of explaining the truth to Skpjan animals.U dont have brains ppl...You want evidence? Go search wiki , go look Ancint Macedonia Scripts..All in Greek...I am really tired with u animals...
If Greeks refuse to acknowledge the existence of "living and breathing Macedonians" what makes you think they would acknowledge the existence of artifacts that do not agree with their political ideology?
Aren't they the same Greeks who destroyed every speck of Cyrillic (Macedonian) inscription from every single grave stone and church icon in Greek occupied Macedonia in order to erase everything that is Macedonian?
Are they not the same Greeks who torched and burned every single Slavonic book and bible and banned the Macedonian language and made it illegal to speak?
The question that begs to be asked is NOT whether Macedonians exist or not but, "Why do Greeks deny the existence of Macedonians?"
Herodotus, being one of the foremost biographer in antiquity who lived in Greece at the time when the Macedonian king Alexander I was in power. When Alexander wished to compete and his Greek competitors tried to exclude him "that foreigners were not allowed" to take part. Alexander, however, proved "his Argive descent" and so was accepted as a Greek and allowed to enter for the foot-race. He came in equal first." book 5. 22....cont
MKISMK1913 1 month ago
First, notice that it's not Herodotus that says that the Macedonian kings were of Greek nationality, but the Macedonian kings as they themselves claim. Why is it then, no Spartan, Athenian or Argive felt constrained to prove to the others that he and his family were Helenes? But Macedonian kings seem hard put to argue in behalf of their Hellenic ancestry in the fifth century B.C. Even if one were to accept Herodotian stories about Alexander were true....cont.
MKISMK1913 1 month ago
But..following Herodotus..the stade- race competitors at Olympia thought the Macedonian was a foreigner (Hdt. 5.22: barbaros) Secondly, for his effort on behalf of the Greek cause against the Persians Alexander is known as "Philhellene". Now this is kind of odd to call a Greek a "friend of the Greeks". "This title", writes Borza, "is normally reserved for non-Greeks".
MKISMK1913 1 month ago
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SKOPIANS WHY IS SO DIFFICULT TO UNTERSTUD YOU ARE NOT MACEDONIAN? YOU ARE NOT SPEAK GREEK MAYBE YOU ARE NOT LOOKLIKE GREEK. MACEDONIA IS GREEK FROM ANCIENT TIME.
YOU ARE A PROPAGANDA VICTIM FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT
aenaosdorieas 2 months ago 3
One word,stupid propaganda..nad pause it at 8:35 the map is fixed,some coastlines mising,wonder why..be proud slavs or history will punish you..
ApaleutosMits 3 months ago
ALEXANDER : Alex - protection plus andras - man
In GREEK it means protector of men . It is a Greek name you asshole skopjans . Get over it. Why in the hell would this king a GREEK name ? Why you filthy cunts ?
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ . Αnybody who knows etymology of languages and is strong enough to recognize that the skopjan goverment has fucked him up with brainwashing, will admit after that that Alexander the one with a Greek language and NAME was Greek. Shut up already
yuhus1000 8 months ago
thumbs up if that guy who is speaking sounds like oz from fan boy and chum chum
29as29krack 9 months ago
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NO HISTORICAL ROOTS?
first,why THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN COINS WERE IN GREEK LANGUAGE!?
AND SECOND,ALEXANDER THE GREAT LIVED IN MACEDONIA AND HE PARTICIPATED IN OLYMPIC GAMES,324 BC. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY GREEKS WERE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES,GREEK CITIZENS AND NO ONE ELLS.SO THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIA WAS A PART OF GREECE.
Joanne7u8 9 months ago
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DON'T SAY GREEK LIES AGAIN!
HAVE PROOF;)
first,why THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN COINS WERE IN GREEK LANGUAGE!?
AND SECOND,ALEXANDER THE GREAT LIVED IN MACEDONIA AND HE PARTICIPATED IN OLYMPIC GAMES,324 BC. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY GREEKS WERE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES,GREEK CITIZENS AND NO ONE ELLS.SO THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIA WAS A PART OF GREECE.
Joanne7u8 9 months ago
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shut your mouth and read.
first,why THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN COINS WERE IN GREEK LANGUAGE!?
AND SECOND,ALEXANDER THE GREAT LIVED IN MACEDONIA AND HE PARTICIPATED IN OLYMPIC GAMES,324 BC. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY GREEKS WERE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES,GREEK CITIZENS AND NO ONE ELLS.SO THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIA WAS A PART OF GREECE.
IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM,JUST SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
Joanne7u8 9 months ago
than a historical fact can not escape the word replaces the word Bulgarians sklavinas then in the ninth century it comes from the Jews who were settled in the Aegean Macedonians who lived in Thessaloniki and called them up sklavinas residents over the Aegean or the translation of the old Jewish means Thessaloniki residents over there from where comes the crucifix Misirkov means it comes down to what you have false history greeting from macedonia is eternal
goranbk 9 months ago
“We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. - 19th century "Macedonian" national hero Krste Misirkov
GemistusPletho 11 months ago
@GemistusPletho
You are greek and you are writing as if your bulgarian?????
STUPID....
who are you fooling:- just yourself
get over it.
I am Macedonian
I speak Macedonian
I come from Macedonia
makedoncheto 11 months ago
@makedoncheto
You live in a region that was primarily ancient Paeonia.
You are the descend of former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians.
You speak a language that used to be widely considered a Bulgarian.dialect.
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."
GemistusPletho 11 months ago
@makedoncheto
Krste Misirkov:
"Macedonians means only Macedonian Bulgarians"
“No matter whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians we shall always feel as a nationality with a Bulgarian national consciousness,”
"We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian."
GemistusPletho 11 months ago
@GemistusPletho than a historical fact can not escape the word replaces the word Bulgarians sklavinas then in the ninth century it comes from the Jews who were settled in the Aegean Macedonians who lived in Thessaloniki and called them up sklavinas residents over the Aegean or the translation of the old Jewish means Thessaloniki residents over there from where comes the crucifix Misirkov means it comes down to what you have false history greeting from macedonia is eternal
goranbk 9 months ago
@makedoncheto from your answer I think YOU are STUPID because you didn't get it. What @GemistusPletho wrote was the words of one of your historians said about you . Your own historians admit that you are Bulgarians . You can not even understand a simple sentence , how will you understand history? ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ NEVER slavic mutated russian like skopje is. You are skopje and that you will remain ! The kings of ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ were all Greeks , proved by historians all over the world
yuhus1000 8 months ago
@makedoncheto
You are Slav
You speak Bulgarian (Ancient Macedonians spoke Ancient Greek)
You come from Monkeydonia and you want to steal my hist(gl)ory.
MrTriton41 7 months ago
@makedoncheto You have nothing to do with ancient Macedonians because they was Greeks.They had Greek names(search ancient Macedonian names,many of them had war-names),they spoke Greek(search and learn words at ancient objects BC)Do you know about Argeads or Timenides dynasty?All kings was Greeks!Do you know the Aristotle?He was Macedonian Greek from Stagira city!What philosopher taught Alexander the Great as a student?Nowhere can find ancient objects with Slavian words like your Slavic language.
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
Why do you have to make yourself look so stupid?
I am Macedonian
I speak Macedonian
I come from Macedonia.
you speak about language? the language that you call greek is really called KOINE, the people that live in todays modern greece were taught this language in school to have a unified language when Prince Otto of Bavaria became greeces first KING. he found the people living on the todays greek land were speaking multiple languages.. Turkish, Macedonian, Vlah, Gypsy.
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto What it means ''κοινή γλώσσα'?do you know what it means?Translate then!SIMPLE GREEK. Do you know about Greek dialects?We have many dialects and many of them are difficult to understand because they have different idioms and speak fast,like Pontic Greek and Cypriot Greek.In Greek language we use the word ''γλώσσα''also for dialects!!!
panosunde 2 months ago
@makedoncheto You are not answer me...What do you know about Agreads or Timenides dynasty?Where is Aristotle from?Which nationality was Aristotle?You know Bavarian king of Greece Otto Friedrich Ludwig von Wittelsbach?Αfter the assassination of Kapodistrias,minister of first Republic Of Greece,Bavarians wanted to make us protectorate but after revolution in 3 September 1843 we exiled him.
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
So you see there needed to be a unified language so the reintroduced the KOINE language of the ancients and re invented it for the modern greek land. so this is why you can read the ancient writing.
for example, if everone in my country learned Ancient Egyptian language, then we can claim anything that has that writing??
you see how stupid you are. greece is not the Ancient city states... it is modern greece with a mixure of Albanian Turish, Macedonian, Vlahs & Gypsies
makedoncheto 2 months ago
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panosunde 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Why Ancient Macedonian didn't spoke and wrote Slavic?Why Alexander the Great didn't use Slavic language and culture for his empire but only Greek?Macedonians was like Spartans they had war style,they had war Greek names!Romans used their language and culture because they was different nation,Macedonians use Greek language and culture because was Greeks,often fought against Peonians,Peonians was NOT Greeks,maybe you are from them.Maybe your nation is Peonian but I'm not sure.
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
you are not sure, cause you dont know.
The ancient Macedonians used their own vernacular, Macedonian language. There are number of testimonials from the ancient historians in support of this fact. For instance, the Greek historian Plutarch (I AD), describing a quarrel between Alexander The Great and one of his friends wrote that Alexander "jumped on his feet and in Macedonian called on his shield-bearers"11).
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto I'm not sure about Peonian nation...Macedonian is Greek dialect.Do you know about Greek dialects?Plutarch in his work:On Alexander's fortune or virtue, ReasonB,paragraph11 states,about the relationship between Macedonians and Thebans''The (Luck) but once roused against him(referring to Alexander) Thebes and brought to the Greek way of war and the terrible need to be protected against male same-sex and family, with murderous battles, with iron and fire, which had a very sad ending''
panosunde 2 months ago
@makedoncheto You cannot answer me because you are sophomoric,the imperfect knowledge is worse than ignorance!
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
You want to know why the writing is all in Koine?
Koine was the "at then" known the ELITE language "Language of trade", just like English is today.
This is why there is so much Koine writing.
now just because the people that live in todays modern greece learnt Koine in school - "meaning this was not the mother tounge... " learnt to read and write Koine it doesnt mean you can claim the history as yours.
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto You know nothing about Greek language...shame for your comments,shame for your videos then.You don't want to know how Greek language works,learn deeper and then talk! It's a favor to yourself for wakeup to see the truth.translate the word ''koine''=κοινή=common means simple Greek!I'm telling to you again,LEARN ABOUT GREEK DIALECTS!so simple.
panosunde 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Learn:The English language has 490,000 words of which 41,615 words. is from the Greek language .. (Guinness Book)
The Greek with the mathematical structure of the language of information and new generation of sophisticated computers, because only in that there are limits.
(Bill Gates, Microsoft)
panosunde 2 months ago
@makedoncheto The Greek and Chinese. are the only languageswith constant living presence of the same folks ..... and at the same place for 4,000 years. All languagesare hiddengreeks, rich in loans from the mother language, Greek. (Francisco Adrados, linguist). The Greek language works on a mathematical model. It is the only language that is semasilogicall,naming. ;)
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
The greek language you call today is actually call KOINE, which was adopted by the Modern greeks when Otto, Prince of Bavaria, became the first King of greece and called "Othon, King of Greece". He arrived in modern greece and found such a mixure of peoples Albanians, Turkish, Macedonians, Vlahs, Gypies, and to unite these people he introduced the Koine language and called it Greek. Koine was taught and not passed down through family. the greeks and not ancient greeks.
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto AAhahahahahahahaaa...! Are you dreaming or are you drunked?Who said those inaccuracies and lies?All those are from your brain or you read somewhere?hahaha...soooo confuzed...! Do you know about first republic of Greece?Greeks still speak Greek throw the centuries,you can see it in archaic greek tribe of 5000 people now in north Turkey ,they can't write Greek but they still speak Greek(romeyka) throw the centuries.
panosunde 2 months ago
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panosunde 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Millions of Greeks in Othoman Empire,could not be taught,could not write but did not lose their Greekness for thousand of years.Macedonia(Μακεδονία) name is from the name Macedanos(Μακεδανός),Macednos(Μακεδνός)from makos(μάκος),mikos(μήκος)means length and edanos(εδανός) means delightful,odorous.In Greek mythology you can see some Greek mens with the name Macedon.Macedonians are Greeks,kings of Argeads Dynasty told about their lineage to Heracles,they had also the name Heracleides.
panosunde 2 months ago 4
@panosunde Oh but you see they did, they had to learn to speak KOINE... it was schooling and then taught to children.
i know it may be hard for you to accept you Albanian heritage.... but its true.
Just like you first king was not greek, neither are you.
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Koine Greek (Greek: Ελληνιστική Κοινή "Hellenistic common [language]", or ἡ κοινὴ διάλεκτος, "the common dialect", also simply called koine "common [language]", or "Alexandrian dialect", "common Attic" or "Hellenistic Greek") is the universal dialect of the Greek language spoken throughout post-Classical antiquity (c. 300 BC – AD 300), developing from the Attic dialect, with admixture of elements especially from Ionic.Get it?It's simple to understand in wikipedia.
panosunde 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Why accept something that I'm not?All my grandparents was Greeks,parents of them Greeks etc.,all in my genealogical tree was Greeks,none from another nation!Off course you don't mean ancient Greece because we had thousands kings haha,you mean the Bavarian king Otto...hahaha,before him we had minister of new repuplic of Greece,his name Ioannis Kapodistrias,do you know him?Do you what happen with Otto?hahahaa Skopians hane no or stupid arguments,SHAME!
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde You are Albanian. It hurts dosn`t it.
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto It doesn't,can you prove that?We have many Albanians in Greece but they are so different from us,they have many different characteristics,it's very easy to distinguish a Greek guy from Albanian!I see a racist to you for Albanians or not,I hope not!Also you must know сите цареви во Agreads или Timenides или Heraclides династија беше грчката
Дали ви се тоа? или сеуште не го добијам?
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
ha ha ha ha, so now you say there are others than greeks living in greece? there are also Macedonians in greece that have different characteristics, its very easy to distinguish a Macedonian guy from a greek.
Also you must know that: Οι Έλληνες στην Ελλάδα δεν είναι πραγματικά Έλληνες. Είναι μια mixure της τουρκικής, Αλβανών, οι πολίτες της πΓΔΜ, vlahs και των Τσιγγάνων.
Μακεδονία ανήκει σε makedonians. Ποτέ δεν ελληνική
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Why are you say always bullshit without evidence?Do you know about kings of Argeads Dynasty?They told about their lineage to Heracles(Do you think Hercules is fyromian?hahaha stupid propaganda),they had also the name Heracleides!!!Alexander the Great proved many times his Greekness ,and all Macedonian kings before him!Ancient Macedonian names was all Greek(see etymologies!!!).
panosunde 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Everyone in world can distinguish a Greek guy from other nations!Last summer,I was in German,for a big festival,I walked out in the streets and I was hear from everywhere whisper''he is Greek,he is Greek''and they loked me,5 days.I was on my own,not talking,looked like a lot of people around me and Ι did nothing to make that characterized the Greeks,my clothes was like everyone around me.You can't distinguish a Greek guy from a Turk,an Albanian,a Slav and Gypsy?hahaha it's so easy!
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
Ha ha ha ha ha, seriously, are you that stupid???
i bet everyone was in shock that they saw a greek????
get over yourself.
we knew that greeks were dumb, but you mate... you make greeks look dumb and dunber.
you are a fool.
btw: you are Albanian
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Wow!You can't distinguish a Greek guy from Albanian guy...incredible and exciting!Probably you are blind!I'm full of fool but you are the best! lolski monkeydonski hahahahaaski...I like the detailed and documented opinions you have...
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
you say i cant tell the difference because i am blind??? you are an idiot.
I can tell the difference between a greek and an Albanian. the one like you who says they are greek, still look like your ancestors the Albanians, and the Albanians who admit they are Albanian look just like you.
the so called greeks and the Albanians look the same.
same blood line
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto Allways bullshit theories you have like the theory about
Greeks and Africans...You can't distinguish white from black,thats why you are blind,maybe shortsighted person or you have colorblindness.You can't distinguish A Greek guy from Albanian guy but I can do :D*These nations have many different characteristics,see some photos and compare .Same blood?You mean about all humans are brothers,nice theory but some races are so differents from others,like Greeks and Albanians.
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
seems to me you have a delusional problem.
i have never said in our discussions that you look African.
I did however say you look Albanian, i can see your profile picture.
Greek people and Albanian people have similar facial features plus they are both hairy people naturally.
i know it upsets you that people can see that Greeks and Albanians look the same, and that if you put two and two together you can understand how the Albanians have now become the modern Greeks.
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto I know you didn't told about Africans but your theory is same bullshit! You have many Albanians in your country and you can't see the differences.I have the same problem,I can't distinguish a Fyromian guy from Albanian but I know they have different characteristics.For example Albanians have more flatter,long face,with smaller eyes than Greeks.Some Turks are like Greeks but Albanians have many differents,ιn Greece we distinguish them from afar,is very easy to recognize a foreign.
panosunde 1 month ago
@panosunde
Mate look at your photo, you look Albanian
makedoncheto 1 month ago 2
@makedoncheto Ιs very easy to recognize an Albanian but you can't.Greeks have farther snout,bigger eyes,bigger mouth,more round head.Albanians have flatter,long face,with smaller eyes,I'm not like Albanian,I have not any relationship with Albanian, none of my relative is Albanian,only one uncle is foreign-German,but he is husband of my aunt,we haven't same blood,all in my genealogical tree are Greeks.You are off topic,the problem is that you have not any relationship with real Macedonians.
panosunde 1 month ago
@makedoncheto Do you know about grandfather of Nikola Gruevski,father of his father?He was Greek,his name was Grouios Nicholas,from the village Achlada,Florina,who was seriously injured in Albanian-Greek forehead against Italians and bowed to 19/11/1940 in Military Hospital of Florina,at age 29.His mother is Μoglenitovlacha.His real surname is Grouios,his father change the surname to Gruefski and acquired citizenship.
panosunde 1 month ago
@makedoncheto You have problems with Greeks,with Albanians,with Bulgarians,with Serbs,with Ecumenical Patriarchate of Orthodox Church because you have fake country(like Turkish fake country in Cyprus),you sleal Greek history.Your geographic place was not in Ancient Macedonia,your place was Paionia,you have not any relationship with ancient Macedonians because ancient Macedonian was Greeks,had Greek names,gods,language,culture,nowhere Slavic like your race.
panosunde 1 month ago
@panosunde
i am Macedonian
I speak Macedonian
I come from Macedonia.
type in google maps Macedonia and see where it takes you.
you look like a Albanian from your profile picture and you call youself greek... that ok...
may be that Albanian entered you mother and you were born. ( that is why you look so Albanian)
anyway this conversation has been going on too long.
i will end it now.
makedoncheto 1 month ago
@makedoncheto YOU ARE BULGARIAN, YOU SPEAK A BULGARIAN DIALECT AND YOUR ANCESTORS FOUGHT FOR THE BULGARIAN ARMY IN THE BALKAN WARS AND WWI...
vetdino 1 month ago
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@makedoncheto Also many Turks have Greek blood from mass kidnapping of many thousand Greek childrens,at Othoman Empire in Greece,to make them muslim and fighter.You know for 400 years we are slaves by Turks.Also we still have Greek blood,we have same customs and traditions for thousand years like Dionysian festivals,we still have ancient Greek names and Jew from Christianity names of course like Christ,Mary,Jacob,Isaac,names from saints of Christianity except ancient Greek names.
panosunde 2 months ago
@panosunde
for example if i was to learn ancient Egyptian - that dosnt mean , i can claim everything written in Ancient Egyptian.
meaning you modern greeks that now speak and write Koine, dosnt mean that you are real greeks.
you see i speak read and write English, doesnt mean im English.
I am Macedonian
I speak Macedonian
and i can speak English.
do you get it? or you still dont get it?
makedoncheto 2 months ago
@makedoncheto the same candy chew then''I am Macedonian,I speak Macedonianianian...But ancient Macedonian spoken Greek,Macedonia is Greek name,you can see it in mythology,in writings of ancient historians,on ancient objects,in ancient Macedonian names and etymologies.For example you can't read ancient Macedonian murals,writings,words on ancient Macedonian coins etc.I can read because I have the same language with ancient Macedonians because I am Greek.Do you get it or not?
panosunde 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho Зошто лажеш? Мисирков во книгата За Македонските Работи кажува дека Македонците се посебен народ. Вели и дека тој самиот е Македонец.
ellenofag 9 months ago
131 country's recognize YOU AS FYROM ON PAPER after its independence in 1991,
YOU (WHOEVER YOU ARE) ARE FAKE!
YOU ARE BRAINWASH YOUR OWN PEOPLE!
SO ONE HAS TO ASK....WHY ??
SO ONE HAS TO ASK...ARE YOU AN ALBANIAN ??
??
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
As recently noted by French? newspaper? Le Figaro,
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three quarters of the population of FYROM (or approximately 1.4? million citizens)
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are of Bulgarian origin and speak a language which in essence is a Bulgarian dialect.
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
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do you really expect to get away by stealing the GREEK HISTORY ?
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How are you going to convince the world that....you are not a
retarded bulgar fruit cake trying to build an identity by stealing (world knows) the
HIST(GL)ORY OF GREECE ??
lol, Dear history-less MONGOLS,...
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
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lol, Dear history-less MONGOLS,
do you really expect to get away by stealing the GREEK HISTORY ?
===
How are you going to convince the world that....you are not a
retarded bulgar fruit cake trying to build an identity by stealing (world knows) the
HIST(GL)ORY OF GREECE ??
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
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lol, Dear history-less mongols,
do you really expect to get away by stealing the GREEK HISTORY ?
===
How are you going to convince the world that....you are not a
retarded bulgar fruit cake trying to build an identity by stealing (world knows) the
HIST(GL)ORY OF GREECE ??
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
Truth is logical information based upon facts & reality,
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131 country's recognize FYROM after its independence in 1991,
BUT it did only recognize the FYROM state, NOT the nation and its language.
YOU ARE FYR of Macedonia (or monkeys) on paper.
fact!
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
Even Gotse Deltchev,the famous Macedonian revolutionary leader, HE SAID...
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Gotse Deltchev often states simple and clearly,
"We are Bulgarians" (Mac Dermott 1978:192,273).
FACT!!
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
READ, YOU ARE no more than “lost Bulgarians” through “historicalaccidents”
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Although Bulgaria was the first to recognize FYROM after its independence in 1991,
it did only recognize the FYROM state, not the nation and its language.
According to Sofia, Macedonia is no more than a geographical term, and the "Macedonians" are
no more than “lost Bulgarians” through “historical accidents”
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FACT!!
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
MORE, Dear history-less mongols,
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"If their (FYR, Slavs) most recent (fake) history is removed, they will identify themselves as either Bulgarians or Serbs", he said.
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Menduh Thaci, leader of the DPA,
FACT!!!
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
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10 points for the correct A:)
WHO SAID ....
"we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians"
"We are Slavs. That's who we are!
We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia.
Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (A.D)
DO YOU NEED HELP ?... (Kiro Gligorov 1st President)
FACT!!!
trustmeU2needhelp 1 year ago
even the doctor cannot help you
TheKnifer93 1 year ago
this vid is a propaganda.. in case you wanna know the truth about macedonia read a fucking book!!!
faraget 1 year ago
I think guys you are blind or something is not right with your eyes. The Greece is made in 1800s (will check exact year and will make the comment later when i get home from my holidays) the modern Greece (if you can call Greece modern) is made after 1913 when they got more than 51 per cent of the Macedonian territory.
What the Hell you are talking about? Greece what? There is many versions of the history but this is joke right? If not you are crazy to think that you can hold that land for muc
haraizmostara 1 year ago
@haraizmostara
6 days searching... still nothing..right?
let me help u!
1)George Cawkwell, Emeritus Fellow, University College, Oxford, in "Philip of Macedon", Faber & Faber, London
2)Ian Worthington, English historian and archaeologist, in "Philip II of Macedonia", Yale University Press, 2008
3)Green, Peter. Alexander of Macedon 356-323 BC: A Historical Biography. University of California Press, 1992
4)Jonathan M. Hall, Ethnic Identity in Greek Antiquity, Cambridge University Press, 1998
faraget 1 year ago
@haraizmostara
any more books..?? i know around 40 that support the greek identity of macedonia ...
none that says otherwise... do you know any???
school books of monkeydonia??? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.....
faraget 1 year ago
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Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?
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no need to feel shame Slavs, think of your kids how ashame will be for you!
GrowUPist 1 year ago
Your great dedo & baba are Bulgarian
but you are simply stupid
AgiosFanourios 1 year ago
fuck usa! wants to denie our history!!!!!!
MrMacedoniaisgreek 1 year ago
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what mean YUGO SLAVIA?
constantinoshellas 1 year ago
Not again! Theese videos made by who? who is he? you dont know him but you belive him! Read the history of the real historians not the youtube videos which everyone can make easily! open your eyes! your mind... Greece is Makedonian :) what is this all about... ok you wankt the name? take it but you are not Macedonians!
tirokroketass 1 year ago
gamw ti mana pou se petage
CretaBlackArmy 1 year ago
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"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you... " Alexander to Persians
idizzzful 1 year ago
that dude should search the Byzantine empire BEFORE the turks,Macedonia was Greek for 3000 years,there were no Slavs,Albanians and other gipsys like them
karaxalios1 1 year ago
Macedonia is GREEK
angraper 1 year ago
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Greek_Macedonia
here is the truth
karaxalios1 1 year ago
Dear slavs of F.Y.R.O.M. Dear countries that recognosed this morphom as "MACEDONIAS" Let us be serious. Please provide us a single one ancient macedonian script that is not written in Greek. Then we all will recognize that ancient Macedonians were not Greeks. End of story.
tourbox1 1 year ago
makedoncheto you suck, go learn some proper history. Read an other book, except from fyromian books
chalkio1 1 year ago
A legent says that Alexander wanted, to participate in the olympic games, when someone accused him, that he was not greek, he became so mad that he almost smash his head. Macedonians were Dories, one of the greek tribes. Athinians were Ionians, an other greek tribe, thats why they consider them foreigners. Anyway FYROM you are full of shit, we show you evidence, you show as bullshit
chalkio1 1 year ago
most of the world recognize because fucking Bush support you, and the other countries dont care about your name
chalkio1 1 year ago
another disney feature brought to us by makedoncheto !
all full of shit.
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
FYROM si shit :)
ThePROUDmonkeydonian 1 year ago
Fuck greece.TURKEY and MACADONIEN FOREVER!!!.
30062004se 1 year ago
Macedonia was never Greek and never will be. Macedonians conqured the city states.
TheMakGreat 1 year ago
Macedonia was never Greek and never will be. Macedonians conqured the city states.
TheMakGreat 1 year ago
Macedonia was never Greek and never will be. Macedonians conqured the city states.
TheMakGreat 1 year ago
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TheMakGreat 1 year ago
yes go suck american dicks monkeydonians puppets!
arkomanis123 1 year ago
You know, some MKD's call Greeks sub-saharan dark, when the Macedonian's in 0:19 are ridiculously dark.... as in other pictures as well.
TomCat2800 2 years ago
majstore sekoja cest za videoto !!!!
macedonia forever !!!
912police 2 years ago
this video is full of shit go eat some burek ans chevapi this is full bull shit
twostrokeforlife 2 years ago
Republic of Macedonia is Slavic/Bulgarian and Albanian State.The people of Macedonia are Albanian and Slavic assimilated Aromanians.Slavic "Macedonians"have no connection with true macedonions .Greeks had some cultural influence on the Macedonian nobles,but considerd them barbarian,different.Macedonians are closely related with Illyrians and Thracians,Albanian anccestors.
albomax 2 years ago
Macedonia is Greece for 5.000 years and nobody can change that!Leave what the Miller says and look what the ancient historians say!
All support that Macedonia is Greece!!
Read Herodotus,Thoukidides,Strabo,Rufus,Sikeliotis and many others!!
If you find a historian of the ancient era or the time of Alexander the Great which support that Macedonia is not Greece then i kill myself!!!!!
Macedonia is Greece!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
WHAT FUCKING GREEK INVASION OF MACEDONIA IS THIS FUKING COMPUTER GENERATED VOICE MONKEY AUTHOR TALKING ABOUT...WHAT BULLSHIT IS THAT...GREEKS WERE ALWAYS LIVING THERE...fyromian propaganda has reached its heights it looks like...You Fyromians are actually running out of lies...soon your country will be starving and the only way to enter the EU would be
Abatzidis21 2 years ago
to forget about the propaganda game that has started...The fact that the Slav Fyromians came to the Balkans in the 6th century AD automatically proves that they have nothing to do with Alexandros o megas's Macedonia...I mean its common sense...Its ok ALL IN DUE TIME...THIS BULLSHIT GAME OF HISTORIC TRUTH AND IDENTITY THAT HAS BEEN INITIATED BY THESE UNIDENTIFYED SLAVS (who are actually not unidentifyed as they are Bulgars) WILL END
Abatzidis21 2 years ago
the Ottomans captured Constantinople in 1453 and advanced southwards into Greece, capturing Athens in 1458. The Greeks held out in the Peloponnese until 1460.. Does it make any sense? You guys really need to get educated on Classical Greek, Medieval times, Byzantian Empire, Ottoman Empire and the Greek War of Independence.Ohh and i almost forgot read up on Modern Greece as well. get your self education and then you will understand why over 300 Scholars have signed petition to OBAMA
Archangel7999 2 years ago 7
Now what happened when Greece was under the Ottoman empire? for 400 Greece North, South, East and West was all under the huge and power all mighty Turkish Ottoman Empire. The Byzantine Empire, which had ruled most of the Greek world for over 1100 years, had been fatally weakened since the sacking of Constantinople by the Crusaders in 1204.
Archangel7999 2 years ago 8
look it up on Youtube, Wiki and you will see that Greece played a major role during the medieval era. Now I am not being racist, I am speaking the truth because I actually read books and do my own research!
Archangel7999 2 years ago
The Greeks had to fight the Turks for there independence in 1821.WE actually had to fight a WAR if that makes any sense. we fought off the Turks and claimed back our " Territory".. Greece was under Turkish occupation for over 400 years! NOW 400 years BEFORE that, Greece and constantinople WAS A HUGE EMPIRE in the Medieval times, was the centre of the world, in Trade and religion (Agia Sophia). like New York is today. Its called Medieval times
Archangel7999 2 years ago
FYROMS seem to be confused about Classical Greece AND Greece in the Medieval times. Alexander the Great was apart of the Classical Greek era. He was Hellenic... Do know what AC and BC stand for? Now let me inform you because you Skopes find it hard to understand... like many nations,( China, Japan, Epypt, Iran etc ) Greece has a VAST history which goes back further then 4000 years. Thats why we have historians, scholars and professors so people like SKOPES dont distort and fabricate history.
Archangel7999 2 years ago
And to answer your question towards the end of your movie,Because you are so ignorent to do your own research. Ancient Greece was a collection of Greek city-states. Because Greece was not yet one country, there was no central government in ancient Greece. Athens, Sparta, Tripoli, Messinians, Troy, Pella, Macedonia etc where all seperate city states.There was no Greece! King Phillip of Macedon unified the Greek city states and this is edvident all over Greece and Alexander Spread Hellenism in Asi
Archangel7999 2 years ago
your video is all talk but doesnt actually prove any points AND you havent actually shown or linked it to any historical facts.... and don't forget Australia is one of the 10% like you claim.. its much more then 10% its more like 38%(as wiki states) and they are 90% of the EU nations . Your country is a poor developing nation and you guys better smarten up and stop provoking you neighbours. Greece invested 1 billion dollars in Skopje which created 10,000 jobs!!!
Archangel7999 2 years ago
You are using this propaganda to claim SALON! if you want it come and get it!
Archangel7999 2 years ago
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who is Miller? he is only a historian in Greece? hahah he is a Classical Scholar!! do you know what that means? he is educated!!!! not brain washed monkey like yourself! by the way, he wasn't the only SCHOLAR who participated in the letter petition to Obama, it's a list of 357 professors and growing!!!! see for your self do some research... The scholarly community has a duty to preserve historic truth you are just uneducated and your whole country is brainwashed.
Archangel7999 2 years ago
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Archangel7999 2 years ago
Macedonia is Greece forever!All the ancient writers quote that many many times in their books!!Herodotus,Strabo,Curtius Rufus,ect say clearly my truth,the greek truth!!
LEARN HISTORY!!!!!The real history and not the creation of the National Centre of "History" in Scopje!!!!!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
Everyone knows Macedonians are Greek , even you. Have you made absolutely sure that what you said and told us is true?" NO!. By saying that do you want to tell us something Good? No! . So, if what you want to tell us is neither True nor Good nor even Useful, why tell it to us at all?" U should now be embarrassed
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
watch?v=rF2Fp55cZZo
Listen...
Even bulgarians laugh with your lies
kkostid 2 years ago
What you have to say about that?
Thessaloniki is the name of Great Alexander's sister...and you transformed it into "Solun"...
Look how "Macedonians"you are, by insulting your own brainwashed History...
That's why you are lier's
P.S Say it better from the movies of Far West "Saloon"
kkostid 2 years ago
The Video says the TRUTH.
Macedonia for the Macedonians... Never greek
makedoncheto 2 years ago 4
Do you know about the history books that the Soviets burned, after they drove out the Germans from your country?
Do you know that Tito, supported by the same Soviets whom burned your books, invented your "Macedonian" heritage?
Do you know about the Ancient Agrianes and Paeonians, whom were assimilated by the Slavic population of the Bulgarian Kingdom?
Do you know about how Alexander conquered Paeonia?
Do you know that Skopje was a Greek colony long before Alexander was born?
If you don't, learn.
shockolanu 2 years ago 2
@makedoncheto
Blah blah. Hundreds of accredited ancient history professors from nations around the world are wrong. A FYROM ultranationalist is right. Whatever.
"Men of Athens, In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek" - Excerpt of speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, " Histories", 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)
GemistusPletho 1 year ago
@makedoncheto AXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAX This sounds FUN :D Hey, guys, all of you.... why don't you ask some old macedonians from Macedonia if they are Bulgarians..... ?? If you do (asking people above 60 y.o) they will say that they are BULGARIANS!!!! So STFU!
mihaless 1 year ago
@makedoncheto AXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAX This sounds FUN :D Hey, guys, all of you.... why don't you ask some old macedonians from Macedonia if they are Bulgarians..... ?? If you do (asking people above 60 y.o) they will say that they are BULGARIANS!!!! So STFU! Oh, and btw, I know 100ts of "macedonians" that knows the truth and most of them say that they would prefer to die rather calling themself Macedonians...since they were Greeks
mihaless 1 year ago
Macedonia the truth: Monkeydonians are Bulgarians
666hyperionhellas 2 years ago
Maimoudonians!!!
evans1976 2 years ago 2
Macedonia was always part of Greek world!
Macedonia has the same history with the rest of Greece!
In 1913 the rest of Greece free Macedonia from the Ottoman slavery and slavic trying to take this sacred greek land!
Macedonia is Greece!
Macedonians are Greeks!
Thessaloniki is the real capital of Macedonia!
And this country which call itself "Macedonia" is a political game of old communist and Great Powers of 19th century!!!!!!!!
FYROM is a boulgarian land with bulgarian population!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
stupid greek gay people i cant stand u...leave macedonia alone,before another alexander is born and burn your gay country forever!!!!hate u for being LIERS!!!
nepemopozepe 2 years ago
Look brainless Bulgarian of Vardasca,you leave Macedonia alone because you have nothing to do with it!
Macedonia is Greece and you people of FYROM-Vardasca are Slavs(with Bulgarian origin)who came in this area in 6th century A.D,1000 years after Alexander the Great(Kiro Gligorov-Your first President)
And if Alexander the Great,the Greek king of greek kingdom of Macedonia(Wikipedia encyclopedia) is born then you must to fear because he burn your fake creation of old communists!!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
Gays?Look man,the only gay here is your country which hide onself under the protection of USA and Turkey and it pretending the hard giant because it knows that it have this protection!!!!!!!!
Poor mans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
Ancient Macedonians considered themselves Greeks and descendants of Greek heros Herculis and Achilleas like the other Greeks!They considered Greeks as brothers with the same language,the same blood and the same visions!!Look the history of Curtius Rufus and Herodotus!!!Wikipedia encyclopedia include ancient Macedonians in the list of Ancient Greeks and it support that Macedonians are Greeks!!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
Macedonians were an ancient greek tribe and part of general Greek Dorian tribe,one of the three basic ancient greek tribes!They spoke a greek dialect,they wrote greek,they believed to Greek Olympians Gods and they participated in all Greek festivals(Olympic,Delphian,ect,) and the common life of Greeks!!!!120 historians support the same opinion!!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
Macedonia was never a region of Greece. On the contrary, ancient Greece was subjected to Macedonia. In 1913, modern Greece and her Balkan allies partitioned Macedonia. If today a portion of Macedonia belongs to Greece, it is by virtue of an illegal partition of the whole and occupation of a part of Macedonia.
TheAlexanderGreat 2 years ago
The ancient Macedonians regarded the ancient Greeks as neighbors, not as kinsmen. The Greeks treated the Macedonians as foreigners ("barbarians") whose native language was Macedonian, not Greek.
TheAlexanderGreat 2 years ago
The ancient Macedonians were a distinct European people, conscious and proud of their nationality, their customs, their language, and their name. The same applies to the modern Macedonians today.
TheAlexanderGreat 2 years ago
The ancient historians support clearly that Macedonia is part of Greek world and the Macedonians are part of Greek nation!Learn history of Herodotus,Plutarch,Rufus,Thoukidides,Dionusios o Sikeliotis,ect!!Learn the historical books of modern historians!!They support too that Macedonia is 100% Greece and this country which call itself Macedonia is a political game without truth and right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
Only the sun is older from the lies of FYROM-Vardasca!Do not exist a "macedonian" minority in Greece because the real Macedonians are Greeks and these people who call themselves only Macedonians are creation of FYROM!Their part taked only 0.09% at the last greek elections!Where are the 300.000 members of this fake minority?Poor people!!!You know nothing!And the world support Greece for this because it also recognize only the mouslim minority in Greece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alevas29 2 years ago
The truth about Macedonia:90 countries recognize your country as FYROM or its never recognize you!!All the international organizations recognize you as FYROM too!!And all the universities of the world,even from the countries which recognize you as "Macedonia" support that Macedonia is Greece and Macedonians are Greeks!!Your country have nothing to do with the ancient Macedonia and Alexander the Great!!LONG LIVE GREECE and MACEDONIA!!
alevas29 2 years ago
you are been used by the illuminati the masons and the jews(that controls the 90%of the countrys) to hit Greece nothing more all of those you say is theyrs propagada,wake up before itsw too late for you
Leibstantarde 2 years ago
United Macedonia
MnM
MacedonianWarior 2 years ago
Good day Greeks. How are you today?
I'm good, thanks for the question.
How long you will lie the whole world that there is no Macedonian minority in Greece?
Though nearly 1 century Greek government implements
ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Macedonian population in Aegean Makadonija (now northern Greece) We are here, and today, more than ever, we are firmly convinced that soon Greek lies will goes to the garbage of history. Forever!
USAandMKD 2 years ago
there may be a slavic minority og bulgarians but that it is
Nikosellas1 2 years ago
The minority is slavonic and I dispute the plight they claim they've undergone.
eliopoulosgiannis 2 years ago
Very interesting video! Brovo! Macedonia = Biser Balkanski!
MrLuckyluuk 2 years ago 2
Macedonia is the site of Celtic migrations from Pannonian and beyond, ancient Macedonian's = Celts!
javonoUTube 2 years ago
I guess if the greeks were right, THEN the world would not recognize Republic of Macedonia....
well 90% of the WORLD has recognized Macedonia, which shows they know that greece is a RACIST country that LIES to its own people and to the world about Macedonia.
Here is Just some of the countries that Recognized Republic of Macedonia
USA, England, China, Russia, Canada, India, Ireland, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, Argentina, Austria, Hungary, Romania, Czech Republic..ect
makedoncheto 2 years ago
Macedonia warfare from the begining of time with many enemis with Atihens, Rome with mighty Persia she take up sword Byzantine gun and sheath knife on Otoman Empire.
Warfare Macedonia and today with historical heredity of City ATINENS! Seh was in war always and will fight to stav PROUD and unruly forever, allwasy own never on someone else's!
krstevski09 2 years ago
yeah but why other countries should care...
it's not their identity that is being disputed or better their name that being stollen....
Letssos 2 years ago 2
They were forced by the Jew, your only creators.
eliopoulosgiannis 2 years ago
@makedoncheto the only one who lied you is your schools,Greece is 3000 older than FYROM,the only one who lies is you,and you are trying to take our glorious Macedonia,the true Macedonia is Greek
karaxalios1 1 year ago
@makedoncheto 90% of the world doesn't know the native history!
goshlike76 1 year ago
Macedonia for Macedonians fuck greece
momcemk 2 years ago
well little boy who is 15 Years old, i think your mummy and daddy have lied to you, and made you look very silly... look i know that is past your bed time, but the TRUTH is Macedonians are real and we will not be Blackmailed by the greek government to change our name. We are Macedonians from Macedonia.
makedoncheto 2 years ago
call yourself whatever you want i dont give a shit but you wont find in any book that ancient macedons were slavs.geez fyromians are retarded.wake up
Relax180 2 years ago
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karaxalios1 1 year ago
slavic people appeared 1000-1200 years after alexander the great and they never had authentic names because the never had a nation...they were slaves...even the slavic alphabet used for the bible was made of 2 greeks...i m 15 years old and i feel sorry for you...it would be funny it wasnt so pathetic...
Relax180 2 years ago
How is it Greek lies. World History books and historians tell that Macedonia is Greek. WORLD HISTORY. Why do you people have to miss the obvious. You Skopians always go after the little details to prove something. For example. Scientists use a black man and they try to find out if he is white, by testing all of the little DNA in him, when they are missing the obvious. That is what you Skopians do.
MEGANUT29 2 years ago
There you go here is another greek RACIST.
Ksesikotheite
Look i know it hurts you to realize that we Ethnic Macedonians are here and that there is nothing you can do but cry about it and call us names.
Cant you see that 90% of the World has recognized the Macedonians and the Republic of Macedonia.
You are a Racist so i do not feel sorry for your pain.
makedoncheto 2 years ago
There is no macedonian Ethnicity,.
Macedonia is one and its greek.I am tired to of explaining the truth to Skpjan animals.U dont have brains ppl...You want evidence? Go search wiki , go look Ancint Macedonia Scripts..All in Greek...I am really tired with u animals...
Ksesikotheite 2 years ago
If Greeks refuse to acknowledge the existence of "living and breathing Macedonians" what makes you think they would acknowledge the existence of artifacts that do not agree with their political ideology?
Aren't they the same Greeks who destroyed every speck of Cyrillic (Macedonian) inscription from every single grave stone and church icon in Greek occupied Macedonia in order to erase everything that is Macedonian?
tosevska1 2 years ago 2
Are they not the same Greeks who torched and burned every single Slavonic book and bible and banned the Macedonian language and made it illegal to speak?
The question that begs to be asked is NOT whether Macedonians exist or not but, "Why do Greeks deny the existence of Macedonians?"
tosevska1 2 years ago 2
Just 1 question...Why there are no Ancient Macedonian scripts in FYROMians alphabet?
Just asking.....Why they are all in Greek?
Ksesikotheite 2 years ago