TITHE PAYMENT,THINK ABOUT IT DON'T PAY YOUR CAR PAYMENT THEY WILL COME AND TAKE YOUR CAR,NOW MAN SAY AND I MEAN MAN SAY THAT IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TITHES THEN YOU WILL BE CURSE,SO PAYING TITHES IS LIKE A PAYMENT THAT PEOPLE PAY TO KEEP FROM BEING CURSE.PAYING TITHES IS ALWAYS ABOUT FAITH,AND FAITH IS A CHOICE,NOW IF YOU DO NOT HAVE FAITH GOD WILL NOT CURSE YOU.I MUST SAY THAT I PAY MY TITHES AND FAITHFULLY BUT I WILL NOT TAKE FOOD OUT OF MY CHILDREN'S MOUTH TO DO SO.
I believe that when Jesus looked at the money he saw that man face was on the money so then he said give man what is due to them and God what is due unto him,God is always looking for souls and that is what he want from man and for man to try to change lives and bring them to him.People do not be fooled man want money God DO NOT NEED YOUR MONEY SO THERE FOR YOU WILL NOT BE CURSED IF YOU MISS TITHE PAYMENT I SAY PAYMENT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE PASTORS MAKE IT OUT OF.
Woman, go check out what the Lord showed these 7 colubian youths .. go check it out..tithing is not just in the law it's a command ..christins should be titheing ..becasue if you don't you hindrer the work of God !..NO GOD ROBBER WILL ENTER THE KINDGONM OF HEAVEN ! read in 1cor.6:9-10..and if you don't tithe then your a God robber !.. Dont' you know that christians can go to hell !..don't be devieved ! and you going around telling christains they shouldnt be tithing ..go to christcomming.co.uk
People please don't reply to anymore of my past post because I won't be answering. I look at all of the videos of the person that uploaded this video and they are all targeting tithing. She isn't posting anything about Jesus and what he doesn't for us. Is she a believer? Who does she represent? Is she just targeting this to stop people from giving to the church? Look where you comment and who posts the vids This subject isn't helping God's kingdome. Just got people arguing over tithing. THANKS!
If circumcision is now only spiritual instead of literal (ouch!) then why is tithing still literal? Tithing was always on farm produce! Why don't tithe teachers give the poor the tithe every third year as the Law stipulates? Why don't they suspend tithing every seventh year and let the "land" (factory) which produces the tithe (fruit) (now money by commandment of men REST?) When will they keep ALL the tithing ordinances instead of just seizing on the ten per cent figure? When donkeys fly!
"All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need." (Acts 2:44-56)
Sounds to me like the 1st century church went WAY BEYOND tithing. They did this because they truly had the LOVE of God in their hearts. But, you are saying that we should do less? God warned us that if we love money we would HATE Him.
In the Old Testament...tithes were brought to the High Priest whom would take those offerings and bring them into the Temple. Now we are under the New Testament as GOD has made us (our bodies) His Temple. Now we see the Apostles meeting on Sunday to take up a collection according to how much Our LORD has prospered them.....and they equally redistribute the offerings back to everyone in attendance so NO ONE will have lack.
the "tithe" of Abraham had nothing to do with a system. he gave out of the spoils of war, stuff he returned to there proper owners, stuff that was stolen from kings that were allied with Abraham. out of respect he gave 10% to Malchezadek who was a believer of God. Abraham never gave one time in his life a so called tithe of his own wealth to anyone.
Uncle Sam will take taxes out of your pay, because the Government does'nt trust you to pay your taxes. God gives health and wellnes to us to prosper. God trust the Believer with the tithe, so that the Believer might trust the Lord as Provider. Believers give more than 10%. All the money on the Planet, including the money in the Devil's hand, belongs to the Lord. Therefore your
money has now been given to me. Im My Father's son by the Blood of Christ,
Exodus Chapter 20:Vers.17 the tenth commandment: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
MANY TODAY ARe PREACHING THE GIVE TO RECEIVE DOCTRINE.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE "GIVE TO RECEIVE DOCTRINE".
GOD DOES NOT and NEVER NEEDED YOUR MONEY.
YOU WON"T READ IN THE BIBLE WHERE GOD NEEDS YOUR MONEY TO WORK HIS PURPOSE IN THE WORLD, BUT THE POOR AND NEEDY DO. Luke 16 KJV. GOD WANTS ONE THING FROM YOU>>OBEDIENCE!
FOR OBEDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE.
FOR GOD LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER, NOT A MANIPULATED AND DECEIVED ONE. MANY GO TO CHURCH TO HEAR AND BE RICH!
the argument has been made that tithing is under the law, and we are not under the law. then the argument goes, that tithing was before the law, and therefore it is a principle for all times. But the same could be said for Circumcision. So do we need to be circumcised?
The thing that scares me is that if I put myself under the Law, i make Christ of NO EFFECT, and that really scares me. So I continue in my search to find the truth. Anyone who can explain these things to me i welcome. Help me!
@loopdawgg please read some of my replys i posted in response here... this lady teaching this is presenting it all half cocked:) if i can help you i will !!!
I don't think I would call it "The dumbing down of Christianity" though that's a provocative title and I'm sure it sells. It's more along the lines of how much wealth we as a nation have accumulated. Do we really need a multi-million dollar church on every street corner? Probably not. So why not build a half-million dollar church on every street corner in the U.S. and then build up churches in parts of the world that have never heard of Jesus Christ?
@davitodude First of all we the followers of Yashua (jesus) are the church and not the buildings... secondly there was no new test till after Yashua asscended to heaven, so what were his teachings??? he taught the laws(TORAH) and commandments of Yahweh(GOD) every sabbath(saturday) and not on sunday... one cant understand the new test unless the read and understand the old test... Yshua said " i did not come to destroy the "LAW" ( strongs word #h8451 if i remember correctly)
When God tells us to do something, it does not mean he has a piece of candy to give us if and when we do. God tells us to do things out of obedience. Righteous folk are blessed and unrighteous folk are not. THE ISSUE ON TITHING OR GIVING IS ELEMENTARY. I find it ironic she is talking about "dumbing down" when she does not have a clue. I do not agree with some ministers rant, but I WILL NOT LISTEN TO AN IDIOT. SHE IS TALKING ABOUTA GOOGLE SEARCH; what about the bible itself??
Jesus tells usto give 10%, which is tithing. You can talk until your blue in the face, but until people read God's word for themselves and look to God for an answer they weill never know. i see people trying to tell people about what God says. Just tell them to read for themselves and look to God for and answer. We are suppose to tithe 10%. Blessings from God are Gifts we don't deserve them so looking for a blessing when you tithe is wrong because We are suppse to tithe and look for nothing.
@countrychristianboi You're right on point, however, Jesus didn't tell Christians to tithe. According to the Bible, Jesus was Jewish, therefore, he observed the Mosaic Law. The Mosaic Law, which commanded the payment of tithes, applied to ancient Israel. The Bible, specifically the New Testament, encourages voluntary, Spirit-led giving - not tithing.
@YourTitheExpert Yashua (jesus) followed the laws and commandments of YHWH (Yahweh)(God)... the new testament was not written till many years after he asscended to heaven, so the real ? is what were his teachings??? Yashua taught the laws of the TORAH and yes they do still apply today! He said "I did not come to destroy the "LAW" I came to "FULLFILL"( strongs hebrew word # h8451 if i remember correctly) which means TORAH:) all the torah laws are still valid-he did not destroy them :)
@YourTitheExpert Do you all know the Children Israel are people of color Black,African,hispanic. Black from Tribe of Judah (old king versionJeremiah 14;2 we are the Jews. Yahshua came from the Tribe of Judah an He was dipicted as dark man in Revelaton 1;13-15.. Read bible and find the truth for yourself your preachers are paid to not preach the truth.
@blessmimi Yeshua wasnt black nor arab nor white,but it does say he had the skin of bronze doesnt mean hes hypothetically dark skinned..it doesnt give a specific color..but however if Yeshua is an embodiment for everyone...that means He is Every color...get it Every color...just saying....
@YourTitheExpert You are EXACTLY RIGHT......and tithing was only practiced in Jerusalem, because of the Levical preisthood, according to the law(Hebrews 7: 5), but, New Testament christians like you said are encourage to give voluntary(2 Corinthians 9: 7). According to Paul in the book of Galatians, who so ever of you are justified by the law, YOU are FALLEN from GRACE(Galatians 5: 4) that's a dangerous position to be in. But, many to almost EVERY so called church today are religiously tithing
@MrLawrence7777 Most people just go to those buildings to see a show and come out with a false since of being saved in the body of CHRIST, they really don't realize that they are actually dening The Son of GOD, because if CHRIST is become of no effect unto them(Galatians 5: 4), that mean they have denied HIM(JESUS CHRIST) in what HE did by dying on the cross for our sins, (NOT DIRECTLY BUT INDIRECTLY) there is nothing that we can do in works or deeds to save ourselves. 1 John 2: 12-29.
@YourTitheExpert thank God for the truth , it sets free .God gave me this understanding years ago, all you need in u.s.a. is a mailing list and youre a made man or woman.. try teaching the lie of the tithe in third world nations that dont have the economic infrastructure and see how sucessfull you ll be.
@NyllaDaisy i rather not have this conversation with you because you are bold and disrespectful enough to use curse words and Jesus' name in the same sentance....Im not holier than though but i have respect....YOU DO THE SAME..& May God forgive you!
@countrychristianboi: The only people commanded to tithe in the Bible were the Children of Israel and they did exactly what God commanded them to do. They tithed FOOD ITEMS not money! NOWHERE in the Bible was anyone ever instructed to tithe money. The fact that we talk about tithing in terms of money shows how great the deception is. Tithing money started in 4th century AD. It's a satanic tradition designed to keep God's people in religious bondage. That's why you have no scripture references!
@BogusJesus oh sir you didn't get the memo im done with this subject. Its not introducing people to christ or anything its just people giving an opinion and moving other away from Christ. Frankly you would still disagree if I were to show you with a name like BogusJesus. That name is disrespectful to God's son Jesus so I refuse. Thanks and God (Jesus' Father) Bless you.
@countrychristianboi Sorry but you are wrong! Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. After Jesus said Paid in full on the cross, as in It is Finished you will not find one command to keep the Mosaic law for a blessing or favor from God. If Jesus saved you he gave you the every spiritual blessing and daily grace for any and every need via his payment on the cross. I suggest you read Romans chapter 7 and the entire book of Galatians. Paul rebukes all who go going back under the law!
It is very sad that many Christians don't understand the difference in the Old Covenant vs The New Covenant., and the difference in Grace vs Law. Paid in Full is not the same as Pay in Full. They fail to understand who God was speaking to in Malachi when he said they were cursed for not tithing. God never said this to Christians that Christ redeemed from the curse of the law. Furthermore there were 613 commandments in the Old Covenant & breaking any one voided the entire covenant!
Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 that tithing was the least (important) weightier matter of the law and this was before he died to fulfill the law when the Old Covenant was still in effect.
Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law and the Prophets but to fulfill. Let this sink in! JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW. The greatest commandment is love. Those who are the Redeemed now have Jesus and the Holy Spirit leads us, not typologies & symbols of the real thing like in the Old Covenant.
@countrychristianboi WHEN READING THE BIBLE KNOW WHICH COVENANT THAT WAS IN PLACE AND TO DULY NOTE THE CHANGES IN NEW COVENANT AFTER JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS. YOU MAY BENEFIT FROM TYPING INTO YOUR INTERNET THE WORDS 613 COMMANDMENTS, OR JUDAISM 101 613 COMMANDMENT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ ALL OF LEVITICUS.
OTHER LAWS WERE SABBATH WITH SERVICES ON SAT. IN A SYNAGOGUE, NO EATING PORK ROAST, OR UNCLEAN FOODS NAMED IN LEVITICUS, ALL8 DAY OLD MALE INFANTS CIRCUMCISED
@countrychristianboi THE HOLY SPIRIT INFILLS EVERY BELIEVER TO LEAD THEM INTO ALL TRUTH EVEN ON THE GRACE OF GOD AND HOW MUCH TO GIVE. TO SUPPORT A FALSE TEACHER IS SIN!
@countrychristianboi Romans 8:32 Since God did not spare His only Son but gave him up for us all surely he will also with Him FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS.
NOTE THE LAST WORDS FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS.
if you are reading this on Friday after sundown you just broke the Old Covenant Sabbath law cause Sabbath rest starts on Friday night to Sat, night but be of good cheer Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. Be thankful bcuz breaking the Sabbath meant death by stoning!
@NotFlaking yeah.... but just like I said in other post and you can read them. This isn't leading people to Christ so I won't waist anymore time debating this subject. It just divides poeple just like the enemy wants. Thanks for the reply. Won't change my view though. Take care!
Where did Jesus say to give 10%? And 10% of what? Jesus Himself never paid a tithe! Why would he? The tithe was on produce of the land - crops & animals! But not wood! Jesus was a carpenter; He was not subject to the tithe! The tithe was not on fish either. Four of Jesus' disciples were fishermen. They were not subject to the tithe! If Jesus and his disciples (Jews living in the 1st century) never paid a tithe, then why would a gentile Christian in the 21st century?
@countrychristianboi This was from a practice done in the old testiment to give 10% of your earnings to the POOR and less fortunate. Now, good luck finding a Christian conservative to saying THAT in public. "No, don't give it to me, give it to the poor". Most people are just paying for an exhuberant lifestyle for a preacher. Thithng should be done with wisdom.
STOP TITHING AND YOU' LL ELIMINATE FALSE , LYING ,STEALING PASTORS AND PROPHETS. BE LIKE CHRIST. GIVE OUT OF LOVE TO THOSE WHO TRULY NEED PLEASE READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELFS THE HOLY SPIRIT IS AVAILABLE FOR OUR GUIDENCE. THANKS
If you look into the actual word (Tithe) you will see that it consits much more than jsut giving 10 percent of your income. It is also part of the Mosaic levitical(Law) If you are going to keep part of the law the bible say you must keep it all. No man can keep the law thus Jesus shed blood on calvary. Now if you want to (Give) out of a cheerful heart thats new test. The new test say God loves a cheerful giver, not a tither. God bless you all.
People in the Church ARE waking up. Deception for gain is nothing new. And this manipulation carries with it a greater condemnation. Give willingly not of necessity. By the way we should not make fun of ignorance, instead pray and not glorify the flesh least you succumb to sin.
The beside the tithe the Scribes had a similar hustle.
Mark 12:40 Who devour widows' houses and to cover it up make long prayers. They will receive the heavier [sentence of] condemnation
People in the Church ARE waking up. Deception for gain is nothing new. And this manipulation carries with it a greater condemnation. Give willingly not of necessity. By the way we should not make fun of ignorance, instead pray and not glorify the flesh least you succumb to sin.
The beside the tithe the Scribes had a similar hustle.
Mark 12:40 Who devour widows' houses and to cover it up make long prayers. They will receive the heavier [sentence of] condemnation
The truth is that a Christian gives from the heart. If hey are giving as an offering to God and to further His kingdom then the tithe is beneficial to that person. It is about the giver and God. The church is not involved in this transaction. The fact that the churches are using the money for exorbitant purposes or for mismanaged expenses is between the pastor and God. They will be judged. I do say you are right though because the church is teaching false doctrines. This si the travesty!
A LYING SPIRIT....TO TELL FOLK STOP TITHING. THE WORD SAYS WILL A MAN ROB GOD ?? ..THEY HAVE ROBBED ME WITH THEIR TITHES AND OFFERINGS ..MALACHI 3:8
THE DEVIL WILL SEND LYING SEDUCING SPIRITS TO GO AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD. PAY YOUR TITHES, NEVERRRR GIVE HEED TO LYING SPIRITS.. WHO CAN GO AGAINST GOD???.... THE LORD WILL REBUKE THE DEVOURER FOR YOUR SAKE...
@thesock77 The Prophet Malachi is rebuking the Levitical priests b/c they weren't tithing according to the Mosaic Law. Also, Giving under Grace replaced tithing under the Law. Christians in the Bible did not practice tithing. The Bible NEVER commands Christians to tithe. Only ancient Israel was commanded to tithe b/c they were following the Mosaic Law.
@YourTitheExpert - you are correct that the Prophet Malachi was rebuking the Levitical priests for not tithing. We need to read the Word of God in the proper context and stop "cherry-picking" the Scriptures and forming doctrine around them.
It is a dumbing down, but I tell you this, I'm paying my house payment. Those of you who become homeless by putting your mortgage in the collection plate, I wonder if your pastor will put you up until you get on your feet.
@YourTitheExpert So to give is and was in the Old Testament and NewTestament. and I gave the verse that is clear. I also think that the idea of being under GRACE is from Paul and not from Jesus because Jesus himself said he follow the law/commadments and if anyone lead men from it will not see the kingdom of heaven. Peace Hope you understand that.
@thesock77 Tithing is not and never have been something you "pay". If you read the entire book of Malachi, you will see that they were "robbing" God by not offering proper offerings and sacrifices. (Mal 1:7) This book was directed towards the priests and was scolding them for the "improper" sacrifices and offerings they were to make with the tithes. If you look at the commandments of tithes in Lev 27, you will see just how they were "robbing" Him.
@thesock77: This issue is exactly like the traditions they were debating in the Bible such as: Should gentiles who were receiving the same Holy Ghost as the Jews now need circumcision? Or, was it okay to eat meats sacrificed to idols? Or, could women who were now saved appear in public without their head coverings?....etc.... I've read her book and I've also read the Bible in this regard. You seem steeped in religious tradition without knowing the scriptures for yourself in this regard.
@thesock77: When people start off referring to Malachi the 3rd chapter as their defense for tithing it proves they have been psychologically groomed to believe a lie in this regard by tele-evangelists. It's sad that most people have been brainwashed into disobeying the word of God instead of knowing the Word of God in this regard for themselves. You might consider coming down off of your religious high horse and reading Malachi the 1st chapter in order to understand the 3rd chapter in context.
@thesock77 first you have to understand what a tithe is.... its not money! its a "tenth" of your gain and most assume its money but if you read the old test you will clearly see its NOT money... Yahweh had a built in welfare system kinda, its really pretty amazing once you read it and understand it:) i was once paying a 10% religion tax as well and then i actually read the word and found the truth and left the teachings and doctrins of men which means no xmass trees as well LOL PRAISE YAHWEH:)
@thesock77: Wow! With all due respect you should actually read the book of Malachi and stop spouting religious platitudes. The book of Malachi is not about people refusing to tithe it's about Priests who were offering tithes that were deformed on God's altar. You have no scripture references to back up what you are saying yet you dare accuse someone else of having a lying spirit. NOWHERE in the Bible did God ever command anyone to tithe money; He commanded Israel to tithe FOOD ITEMS not money.
@thesock77: Certainly you are aware that tithing and animal sacrifices went hand in hand! That's exactly what the book of Malachi is all about! So how can you say someone has a lying spirit when you yourself have never brought a lamb to church and then sacrificed it on a flaming altar. In other words, we are no more required to tithe under the New Testament Covenant than we are to make animal sacrifices. So how can u accuse someone else of lying when your very words are totally disingenuous???
@thesock77 Can you not read? Tell you what you keep doing it .THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT TELL CHRISTAINS TO TITHE, READ MATTHEW CH 21 VERSES 12 13 HEATHEN
@thesock77 Can you not read? Tell you what you keep doing it .THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT TELL CHRISTAINS TO TITHE, READ MATTHEW CH 21 VERSES 12 13 HEATHEN YOUNALSO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS LOL
@318Con Yelling at people and tossing around the word Heathen is...improper to say the least. Ephesians 4:29 - "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up that it may benefit those who listen." Secondly, the verse you gave just talked about the fig tree...so...haha no logical argument there. Watch yourself when debating.
@YourTitheExpert I understand why people dont feel like your videos are not helping your comments foundation. Is it that you want them to buy the book? Listen, read Genesis 14. Christians dont tithe under the law now, but Abraham tithed to Melchizedek because of gratitude and honor to God. THIS system of tithing was born out of love. This was done almost 500 years BEFORE the law of tithing was given. Honor and gratitude for what God has and will do in our lives. FORWARD THE KINGDOM!!!
@thekid26000 Abraham's tithe was not incorporated into the New Testament. Some people overlook the FACT that Christians in the Bible didn't practice tithing. In the Christian faith, according to the Bible, honor and gratitude for God is done through Spirit-centered, free-will GIVING. And once again tithing and giving aren't the same.
@thekid26000 You have to remember that what Abraham gave was not of his own. (Heb 7:4) It was what he gained from war when he went to save Lot. (Gen 14:8-16)
@rpierre777 I ask that you read Gen 14:20, How is it that Abram was able to give a tenth without it being his? The verse says that Abrams enemies were delivered into his hands. That means bodies and belongings. Abram became official owner at the point of delivery. In your own words you say that Abram gained.
@thekid26000 I never said it wasn't his. He gave a tenth of what he gained, not of what he originally had with him. You have to use the entire bible to understand exactly what happened during that situation-not just that verse (unless you believe that the writer of Hebrews was wrong). You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with Hebrews 7:4 because you want to believe it was Abraham's income out of which he gave.
@rpierre777 I use verses to make my point but lets move around in the bible some. How do you think Lot became so rich? Not because he was blessed but because Abram was blessing Lot. Abram was the one who was blessed. Abram in this case used his riches to bless Lot. So Abram did give of his own as he did with the preist.
@thekid26000 Well, there is nothing that shows that Lot's riches were from Abraham. Also, when Lot let Sodom, he still had all that was his. Abraham "increase" was from those whom he fought against when he "saved" Lot. So, Abraham didn't give of his own. It was of those who took Lot captive. (Gen 14:16) That's why Heb 7:4 called it "spoils". (booty, loot, or plunder taken in war; prizes won or treasures accumulated)
@rpierre777 Read Gen 12:16 then read Gen 13:2, This in fact shows that Abram was very rich as stated in the bible. The bible doesnt say how Lot earned money. If you think about it, Lot had these things simply from being with Abram. Gen 13:5.
@thekid26000 "The bible doesnt say how Lot earned money."
Nor does it state how Abraham earned money. Either way, their riches weren't limited to financial. Regardless, we can't assume Lot only had because he was with Abraham.
@thekid26000: Abraham had already received the blessing when he tithed to Melchizedek; he did not tithe of his own wealth; he was not commanded to tithe by God; the tithe Abraham paid to Melchizedek was a one time event, nor does the Bible specify that Abraham tithed money although we have to assume he did since he was tithing from the spoils of war.
Listen everyone,Tithing was never a command given to the Church. This has to do with what is called, Replacement Theology. Go Google that. The Church is NOT the continuation of ancient Israel. It would be the same as Commanding Jesus to Tithe, when He is the GIVER of all things. Christians, who are the Body of Christ, are to be GIVERS in the same Spirit that Christ Himself is a GIVER. The Title is LIMITED, WHEREAS > GIVING IS WITHOUT LIMITS, AND ALSO, IT TRANSCENDS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE FLESH.
@PentacostalPreacher I like that very much. By chance, do you get to slam that sword into the faces of people outside of the internet? I would hope so because the 501c3 state owed preachers of america are overdue for some perpetual pain from God's tool box. Definately you are one who knows to fix Gods problems in his kingdom does require tools from his tool box. Keep it going and let the slices unfold
Also i would like to add that selling holy products withing a church is wrong. jesus stormed into the temple turned over the tables threw out the plates and drove out the cattle saying "Make my fthers house not a house of merchandise" So any of you people selling in the name of christ need to stop going against the direct word of jesus christ.
You would call yourself a christian yet not do what jesus himself would teach that is very aanti christian shame on the churches that do this.
@ShaolinEast Exactly! That's why I have a problem with not just selling holy products, but blessings as well. We don't have to buy blessings. Many preachers teach, "Pay/Give and you shall receive" or "Give or you won't receive". However, Jesus said, "ASK and you shall receive" (Matt 21:22; Jn 16:24)
whats funny is that most bible litterate holy ghost baptised believers in Christ who are not on some staff of some church all know the truth about tithing and agree with you.........if those ants find out they out number us by a hundred to one, we will loose our food supply........and have to get jobs........huhahahhcoughcough
@mrsdoitallable Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. I invite you to watch the other videos as well. We have a great deal of meat on the topic of tithing.
@TithingStudy - I really dont believe GOD want your money, I believe he give it for you to live in this world you are trap in under mans law and why will GOD give you money that he want you to give back? Now I do help others with my earnings, and give my time to people that need my help. I stay in prayer all the time, Im very Spiritual and I believe the body is the church it's not a building and that is in the Bible. I bet you celebrate Chritmas and put up a tree and the Bible says NOT too.
@QueenEiliYAH "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree." (Gal 3:13)
Yes, some OT commandments came with curses for not obeying them, but that was before Christ. Now, in Christ, we are free from those curses.
@rpierre777 - I believe YAH "GOD" do test his people, all the test he put me through he made me a stronger believer in him and no one cant tell me he's not real. I've learn to be more relax when things are not in my favor and wait on him to improve things for me. I continue to read my Bible and do my research on the Bible because I want to know for myself what he is saying and not hear it from a so call preacher. Now the curses that you are saying makes sense but I still have to research it.
@MsCuriousCat Yes, He does test His people. The difference is, He no longer curses us since Christ became a curse for us. I do pray you continue in your research and stay strong in the Lord.
Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. It didnt say 10%
Malachi was addressed to Levites/Priests. How can you assume that storehouse is the Church. Church history proves that early Christians did not tithe!
@TithingStudy - I dont believe in preachers anymore, they mislead people and dont help they people of the church. Ive seen preachers take money from polticians to get their memebers to vote Republican when they are a Democrat church. I never said storehouse is a church, I believe the body is the church and we need to take care of our bodies.
@superkal2006 "well if you teach that, how can we get money from the conongregation to build our campusus' up and seat 50 thousand people a sunday"
For one, if we believe that God will provide for us, we won't worry about where we will get the money from. Now, we SHOULD be teaching according to what written, which is that a tithe was NOT money. Also, according to Acts 4 (beginning at vs 34), the congregations sold their possesions and THAT money was bought in to provide.
@rpierre777 I was being sarcastic, and letting what truly is on the mind of non spirit led pagans with christian affiliations say in their hearts when the dust off of their bibles is disturbed and they end up hearing more that what some fancy dancing suit wearing state owned 501c3 preacher tells them
And, He blesses non-tithers. Blessings do come with a price. However, this price was paid on the cross by Jesus when He shed his blood for you and me.
Christians have been misused by greedy pastors, this is no secret... They says there will be wolves in sheep clothing. But as for as comes to the principle of Tithing, the Old Testament is part of the New Testament. Jesus said he did come to change or destroy the law but to fulfill the law.
In Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42, Jesus acknowledged to the Pharisees that they tithed and should do so.
Ok, here are my concerns with using Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42.
1) The Tithe in both verses is FOOD. "You give a tenth of your spices".
2) They were under OLD law because Jesus had not yet died and risen again.
3) Jesus told the Tithers that they had neglected more important things, "justice, mercy and faithfulness". This is something I have yet to hear in ANY Church.
4) God's blessings are not based on obedience (works), they're based on our belief in Jesus (Galatians 3:2).
@blueskunk12 - Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
@rpierre777 - It was said that the Bible had been changed, they remove one word or add in another and fix it into their favor "the so call jews today, the Greeks and Romans. This what Im saying have been proven, keep searching on the Tube and you'll find it and a lot more. I bet you celebrate Christmas and put up a tree but GOD said NOT too. JEREMIAH 2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them
@MsCuriousCat You must be a JW (or use to be) to make that assumption on the basis of this conversation. Of all the researching I've done, I have yet to come across someone who supports the claim that this verse originally had money listed other than those who attempt to prove that we are obliged to give money. And, still, they only present claims, but not facts. No reference to what older documents were reviewed to determine this. If you have access to it, please provide a link.
Tithing was never money. It was food/agricultural products/cattles. Jesus was talking to Pharisees who lived under the Old Testament. Jesus also told people who were healed by Him not to tell anyone. Does that mean if we get healed we should not give a testimony?
@revpurlie Is that why the writer of Hebrews said, "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." (vs 12) So, no, the law wasn't destroyed, it was changed. Also, if you want to tithe with you paycheck according to the law, it would only be with your first check.
ok I did not hear any scriptures saying tithing is wrong. Malicha 3:10. Says about tithing. Now the money does not go to the Pastor, it is suppose to go to the church. I study Greek and Latin and 10% is what is required. Sister the video didn't give any scripture for or against tithing or explaining what you feel tithing is.
thanks I will study and ask. 20% a week than 10 every third year. well I see why it is only 10% now No more for the Ceremonial Feast,the other 10% if you give to the poor weekly and other stuff I do not farm.. Thanks for showing me Peace Be Unto you..
Yea so if you Tithe when you get paid you are just doing it for the year. Pastor Gino Jennings taught on tithing and why. If you get paid monthly pay monthly. You pay on your gross before taxes not net. Because people have 401k takes and alot of things that come out of their paychecks, so you are suppose to tithe on before those things came out. And if you give to the poor each week than you have paid that 10% for that year. Wow this is great...
The problem with what you're saying is that it is not Biblical.
The Biblical Tithe was food. It was paid only by those who grew or raised food (Lev 27:30,32). They did not pay money, in fact if they wanted to redeem their tithe, they had to add 20% to it (Lev 27:31). For example: if their tithe was worth $1000, their tithe in money was $1200.
The Bible does not say to tithe on gross or firstfruits. Firstfruits are separate from tithes. And again, we are not under Law (Romans 6:14)
@CORNELGUILE The laws of tithing wasn't based on gross, but what you actually have. When the Israelites planted anything, they tithe on what came out the ground, not what was planted. (Deut 14:22) If they planted 50 seeds of corn, but only 40 ears grew, their tithe was 4 ears-not 5. Your gross pay is like the seeds. So, when you get your paycheck, the amount deposited in your account is what you have or what was produced. The rest of it doesn't count. (continue)
@CORNELGUILE (continue) Also, giving to the poor isn't the same as tithing because tithing was specifically for a particular group of people. And, if you wanted to use it for some other purpose or give it to someone else, it had to be redeemed. "And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof." (Lev 27:31)
In 2 Cor 8 Paul did not ask the Macedonians for a tithe. The Macedonians gave what they desired to give. They were not bound by 10% and giving it to Levites.
Even Malachi 3:10 says "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house."
Not to pay the Pastor, or to meet expenses. EVERY verse that mentions the tithe says the Tithe was food.
Matthew 23:23 says they gave a "tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin". FOOD. That was the purpose of the Tithe, to feed those who could not provide for themselves.
Giving to take care of the Church is fine. Trying to make the Bible say something it doesn't is not ok.
Please read Malachi beginning with the first chapter. The book of Malachi does not start in chapter 3:10. If you read the entire book, then you will see that God is almost exclusively talking to the dishonest priests. God is not talking to the church. Tithing in the OT was never used to fund the temple; it was ALWAYS used to feed people. Tithing was in a DIETARY form: never money.
@CORNELGUILE If you need a scripture that shows tithing is wrong for the Christian, consider this:
Tithing is giving 10% out of necessity of law. It was never a heart-felt act. And, there was no negotiation on what condition it was in. Now, Paul tells us, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or OF NECESSITY: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (2 Cor 9:7) (continue...)
@CORNELGUILE (continue...) He goes on to say, "And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:" (vs 8) So, receiving a blessing isn't based on giving 10%, but is connected to what you purpose to give if you have chosen to give. No one should tell you it is necessary for you to give. Also, this grace isn't for self gain (houses, cars, etc), but for you to about to every good work.
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Romans 2:14-15; We don't have the law and never will; we're Gentiles.
brotherfrank62 3 weeks ago
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Exdous Chapter 20:vers.17 Thou shalt not covet any thing that is thy neighbour's. The 10th commandment.The truth about giving.
brotherfrank62 1 month ago
We worship GOD in spirit and truth( John 4: 23-24), NOT in the worldly god "mammon" (Matthews 6: 24).
MrLawrence7777 1 month ago
Great video sister, two thumbs up, please keep doing this great work of informing people of the TRUTH. Be blessed in our Lord Jesus Christ.
MrLawrence7777 1 month ago
TITHE PAYMENT,THINK ABOUT IT DON'T PAY YOUR CAR PAYMENT THEY WILL COME AND TAKE YOUR CAR,NOW MAN SAY AND I MEAN MAN SAY THAT IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TITHES THEN YOU WILL BE CURSE,SO PAYING TITHES IS LIKE A PAYMENT THAT PEOPLE PAY TO KEEP FROM BEING CURSE.PAYING TITHES IS ALWAYS ABOUT FAITH,AND FAITH IS A CHOICE,NOW IF YOU DO NOT HAVE FAITH GOD WILL NOT CURSE YOU.I MUST SAY THAT I PAY MY TITHES AND FAITHFULLY BUT I WILL NOT TAKE FOOD OUT OF MY CHILDREN'S MOUTH TO DO SO.
MegaBrown29 2 months ago
I believe that when Jesus looked at the money he saw that man face was on the money so then he said give man what is due to them and God what is due unto him,God is always looking for souls and that is what he want from man and for man to try to change lives and bring them to him.People do not be fooled man want money God DO NOT NEED YOUR MONEY SO THERE FOR YOU WILL NOT BE CURSED IF YOU MISS TITHE PAYMENT I SAY PAYMENT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE PASTORS MAKE IT OUT OF.
MegaBrown29 2 months ago
20 million to cashflow creflo Dollar like hes really hurtin for more cash?
lunabranwen 3 months ago
If you give money to the church, the preacher wont say anything about all your bastard children.
tbursee 3 months ago
Its spiritual lol...yeshua was a spirited thats imbedded in every human soul but sense we lack knowledge we dont know
lilripsta1995 3 months ago
@mjb519...please stop misquoting the scriptures you sound like the rest of these ecumenical-fundamentalist....
lilripsta1995 3 months ago
Woman, go check out what the Lord showed these 7 colubian youths .. go check it out..tithing is not just in the law it's a command ..christins should be titheing ..becasue if you don't you hindrer the work of God !..NO GOD ROBBER WILL ENTER THE KINDGONM OF HEAVEN ! read in 1cor.6:9-10..and if you don't tithe then your a God robber !.. Dont' you know that christians can go to hell !..don't be devieved ! and you going around telling christains they shouldnt be tithing ..go to christcomming.co.uk
mjb519 3 months ago
Hello...My name is Religion...
MrBeauGator 3 months ago
Oh but Grace does lead people to Christ!
You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free!
NotFlaking 4 months ago
Oh but Grace does lead people to Christ!
NotFlaking 4 months ago
People please don't reply to anymore of my past post because I won't be answering. I look at all of the videos of the person that uploaded this video and they are all targeting tithing. She isn't posting anything about Jesus and what he doesn't for us. Is she a believer? Who does she represent? Is she just targeting this to stop people from giving to the church? Look where you comment and who posts the vids This subject isn't helping God's kingdome. Just got people arguing over tithing. THANKS!
countrychristianboi 4 months ago
@countrychristianboi You obviously want to stay bound by the law and not Grace
Galatians 5:4 You that seek to be righteous by the law have fallen from GRACE
NotFlaking 4 months ago
@NotFlaking "NO" You obviously aren't understanding what I'm saying. Re-read my last comment again. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS!
countrychristianboi 4 months ago
If circumcision is now only spiritual instead of literal (ouch!) then why is tithing still literal? Tithing was always on farm produce! Why don't tithe teachers give the poor the tithe every third year as the Law stipulates? Why don't they suspend tithing every seventh year and let the "land" (factory) which produces the tithe (fruit) (now money by commandment of men REST?) When will they keep ALL the tithing ordinances instead of just seizing on the ten per cent figure? When donkeys fly!
boogerbuckstex 4 months ago
"All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need." (Acts 2:44-56)
Sounds to me like the 1st century church went WAY BEYOND tithing. They did this because they truly had the LOVE of God in their hearts. But, you are saying that we should do less? God warned us that if we love money we would HATE Him.
edadan2009 4 months ago
In the Old Testament...tithes were brought to the High Priest whom would take those offerings and bring them into the Temple. Now we are under the New Testament as GOD has made us (our bodies) His Temple. Now we see the Apostles meeting on Sunday to take up a collection according to how much Our LORD has prospered them.....and they equally redistribute the offerings back to everyone in attendance so NO ONE will have lack.
GOD is the same yesterday, today & forever!
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FreeT0Live 4 months ago
the "tithe" of Abraham had nothing to do with a system. he gave out of the spoils of war, stuff he returned to there proper owners, stuff that was stolen from kings that were allied with Abraham. out of respect he gave 10% to Malchezadek who was a believer of God. Abraham never gave one time in his life a so called tithe of his own wealth to anyone.
lunabranwen 4 months ago
Uncle Sam will take taxes out of your pay, because the Government does'nt trust you to pay your taxes. God gives health and wellnes to us to prosper. God trust the Believer with the tithe, so that the Believer might trust the Lord as Provider. Believers give more than 10%. All the money on the Planet, including the money in the Devil's hand, belongs to the Lord. Therefore your
money has now been given to me. Im My Father's son by the Blood of Christ,
your money will come to me. Now!!!
samariababii 4 months ago
Exodus Chapter 20:Vers.17 the tenth commandment: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
brotherfrank62 5 months ago
MANY TODAY ARe PREACHING THE GIVE TO RECEIVE DOCTRINE.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE "GIVE TO RECEIVE DOCTRINE".
GOD DOES NOT and NEVER NEEDED YOUR MONEY.
YOU WON"T READ IN THE BIBLE WHERE GOD NEEDS YOUR MONEY TO WORK HIS PURPOSE IN THE WORLD, BUT THE POOR AND NEEDY DO. Luke 16 KJV. GOD WANTS ONE THING FROM YOU>>OBEDIENCE!
FOR OBEDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE.
FOR GOD LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER, NOT A MANIPULATED AND DECEIVED ONE. MANY GO TO CHURCH TO HEAR AND BE RICH!
JUST NOT BIBLICAL!
Drblackinstien 5 months ago
the argument has been made that tithing is under the law, and we are not under the law. then the argument goes, that tithing was before the law, and therefore it is a principle for all times. But the same could be said for Circumcision. So do we need to be circumcised?
The thing that scares me is that if I put myself under the Law, i make Christ of NO EFFECT, and that really scares me. So I continue in my search to find the truth. Anyone who can explain these things to me i welcome. Help me!
loopdawgg 5 months ago
@loopdawgg please read some of my replys i posted in response here... this lady teaching this is presenting it all half cocked:) if i can help you i will !!!
houseoffire72 5 months ago
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pacbiggiecom 5 months ago
Come visit our internet forum on Tithing-Study in Yahoo Groups
Included in the group are theologians and about a dozen people who have developed their website on this topic. The group size is over 160 people.
robatgeorgefoxname 5 months ago
I don't think I would call it "The dumbing down of Christianity" though that's a provocative title and I'm sure it sells. It's more along the lines of how much wealth we as a nation have accumulated. Do we really need a multi-million dollar church on every street corner? Probably not. So why not build a half-million dollar church on every street corner in the U.S. and then build up churches in parts of the world that have never heard of Jesus Christ?
davitodude 5 months ago
@davitodude First of all we the followers of Yashua (jesus) are the church and not the buildings... secondly there was no new test till after Yashua asscended to heaven, so what were his teachings??? he taught the laws(TORAH) and commandments of Yahweh(GOD) every sabbath(saturday) and not on sunday... one cant understand the new test unless the read and understand the old test... Yshua said " i did not come to destroy the "LAW" ( strongs word #h8451 if i remember correctly)
houseoffire72 5 months ago
love your videos keep on keeping it real and may God bless you!
Jarreau24 8 months ago
When God tells us to do something, it does not mean he has a piece of candy to give us if and when we do. God tells us to do things out of obedience. Righteous folk are blessed and unrighteous folk are not. THE ISSUE ON TITHING OR GIVING IS ELEMENTARY. I find it ironic she is talking about "dumbing down" when she does not have a clue. I do not agree with some ministers rant, but I WILL NOT LISTEN TO AN IDIOT. SHE IS TALKING ABOUTA GOOGLE SEARCH; what about the bible itself??
mrbilingual 9 months ago
Jesus tells usto give 10%, which is tithing. You can talk until your blue in the face, but until people read God's word for themselves and look to God for an answer they weill never know. i see people trying to tell people about what God says. Just tell them to read for themselves and look to God for and answer. We are suppose to tithe 10%. Blessings from God are Gifts we don't deserve them so looking for a blessing when you tithe is wrong because We are suppse to tithe and look for nothing.
countrychristianboi 10 months ago
@countrychristianboi You're right on point, however, Jesus didn't tell Christians to tithe. According to the Bible, Jesus was Jewish, therefore, he observed the Mosaic Law. The Mosaic Law, which commanded the payment of tithes, applied to ancient Israel. The Bible, specifically the New Testament, encourages voluntary, Spirit-led giving - not tithing.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Peace & Blessings!
YourTitheExpert 9 months ago 4
@YourTitheExpert Yashua (jesus) followed the laws and commandments of YHWH (Yahweh)(God)... the new testament was not written till many years after he asscended to heaven, so the real ? is what were his teachings??? Yashua taught the laws of the TORAH and yes they do still apply today! He said "I did not come to destroy the "LAW" I came to "FULLFILL"( strongs hebrew word # h8451 if i remember correctly) which means TORAH:) all the torah laws are still valid-he did not destroy them :)
houseoffire72 5 months ago
@YourTitheExpert Do you all know the Children Israel are people of color Black,African,hispanic. Black from Tribe of Judah (old king versionJeremiah 14;2 we are the Jews. Yahshua came from the Tribe of Judah an He was dipicted as dark man in Revelaton 1;13-15.. Read bible and find the truth for yourself your preachers are paid to not preach the truth.
blessmimi 4 months ago
@blessmimi Yeshua wasnt black nor arab nor white,but it does say he had the skin of bronze doesnt mean hes hypothetically dark skinned..it doesnt give a specific color..but however if Yeshua is an embodiment for everyone...that means He is Every color...get it Every color...just saying....
lilripsta1995 3 months ago
@lilripsta1995 lol that make no flipping sense, he would be what ever colour his parents were...its that simple
Emircat 3 months ago
@Emircat i kno it dont thats the point...arguing over nonsensical shit...lol
lilripsta1995 3 months ago
@lilripsta1995 no you are wrong .before I go any furthur with you are you black or white?
blessmimi 3 months ago
@YourTitheExpert You are EXACTLY RIGHT......and tithing was only practiced in Jerusalem, because of the Levical preisthood, according to the law(Hebrews 7: 5), but, New Testament christians like you said are encourage to give voluntary(2 Corinthians 9: 7). According to Paul in the book of Galatians, who so ever of you are justified by the law, YOU are FALLEN from GRACE(Galatians 5: 4) that's a dangerous position to be in. But, many to almost EVERY so called church today are religiously tithing
MrLawrence7777 1 month ago
@MrLawrence7777 Most people just go to those buildings to see a show and come out with a false since of being saved in the body of CHRIST, they really don't realize that they are actually dening The Son of GOD, because if CHRIST is become of no effect unto them(Galatians 5: 4), that mean they have denied HIM(JESUS CHRIST) in what HE did by dying on the cross for our sins, (NOT DIRECTLY BUT INDIRECTLY) there is nothing that we can do in works or deeds to save ourselves. 1 John 2: 12-29.
MrLawrence7777 1 month ago
@YourTitheExpert thank God for the truth , it sets free .God gave me this understanding years ago, all you need in u.s.a. is a mailing list and youre a made man or woman.. try teaching the lie of the tithe in third world nations that dont have the economic infrastructure and see how sucessfull you ll be.
shamgar12 3 weeks ago
@countrychristianboi Jesus ain't said shit about giving pimping preacher money.
NyllaDaisy 6 months ago
@NyllaDaisy i rather not have this conversation with you because you are bold and disrespectful enough to use curse words and Jesus' name in the same sentance....Im not holier than though but i have respect....YOU DO THE SAME..& May God forgive you!
countrychristianboi 6 months ago
@countrychristianboi: The only people commanded to tithe in the Bible were the Children of Israel and they did exactly what God commanded them to do. They tithed FOOD ITEMS not money! NOWHERE in the Bible was anyone ever instructed to tithe money. The fact that we talk about tithing in terms of money shows how great the deception is. Tithing money started in 4th century AD. It's a satanic tradition designed to keep God's people in religious bondage. That's why you have no scripture references!
ericjaynelson 5 months ago
@ericjaynelson imma make a video to this..to respone to this so that i can fully explain myself...do you mind if i tag you? take care
countrychristianboi 5 months ago
@countrychristianboi: Absolutely! Be my guest!
ericjaynelson 5 months ago
@countrychristianboi, where is the book, chapter, and verse, that says and proves Jesus said to give 10%.
BogusJesus 4 months ago
@BogusJesus oh sir you didn't get the memo im done with this subject. Its not introducing people to christ or anything its just people giving an opinion and moving other away from Christ. Frankly you would still disagree if I were to show you with a name like BogusJesus. That name is disrespectful to God's son Jesus so I refuse. Thanks and God (Jesus' Father) Bless you.
countrychristianboi 4 months ago
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@countrychristianboi, just as I thought. You cannot prove your point.
BogusJesus 4 months ago
@countrychristianboi Sorry but you are wrong! Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. After Jesus said Paid in full on the cross, as in It is Finished you will not find one command to keep the Mosaic law for a blessing or favor from God. If Jesus saved you he gave you the every spiritual blessing and daily grace for any and every need via his payment on the cross. I suggest you read Romans chapter 7 and the entire book of Galatians. Paul rebukes all who go going back under the law!
NotFlaking 4 months ago
It is very sad that many Christians don't understand the difference in the Old Covenant vs The New Covenant., and the difference in Grace vs Law. Paid in Full is not the same as Pay in Full. They fail to understand who God was speaking to in Malachi when he said they were cursed for not tithing. God never said this to Christians that Christ redeemed from the curse of the law. Furthermore there were 613 commandments in the Old Covenant & breaking any one voided the entire covenant!
NotFlaking 4 months ago
Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 that tithing was the least (important) weightier matter of the law and this was before he died to fulfill the law when the Old Covenant was still in effect.
Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law and the Prophets but to fulfill. Let this sink in! JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW. The greatest commandment is love. Those who are the Redeemed now have Jesus and the Holy Spirit leads us, not typologies & symbols of the real thing like in the Old Covenant.
NotFlaking 4 months ago
Galatians 3:13 "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law
Romans 10:4 "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for every believer
Galatians 2:21 "I do not frustrate (some translations say nullify the Grace of God, if righteousness comes by the law then Christ died in vain.
Galatians 3:24 The law was our tutor to lead us to Christ
Galatians 3:25 Now that faith has come we are no longer under a tutor
Galatians 5:4 You that seek to be justified by the law have fallen from grace
NotFlaking 4 months ago
@countrychristianboi WHEN READING THE BIBLE KNOW WHICH COVENANT THAT WAS IN PLACE AND TO DULY NOTE THE CHANGES IN NEW COVENANT AFTER JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS. YOU MAY BENEFIT FROM TYPING INTO YOUR INTERNET THE WORDS 613 COMMANDMENTS, OR JUDAISM 101 613 COMMANDMENT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ ALL OF LEVITICUS.
OTHER LAWS WERE SABBATH WITH SERVICES ON SAT. IN A SYNAGOGUE, NO EATING PORK ROAST, OR UNCLEAN FOODS NAMED IN LEVITICUS, ALL8 DAY OLD MALE INFANTS CIRCUMCISED
DEATH BY STONING 4 ADULTERY.
NotFlaking 4 months ago
@countrychristianboi THE HOLY SPIRIT INFILLS EVERY BELIEVER TO LEAD THEM INTO ALL TRUTH EVEN ON THE GRACE OF GOD AND HOW MUCH TO GIVE. TO SUPPORT A FALSE TEACHER IS SIN!
NotFlaking 4 months ago
@countrychristianboi Romans 8:32 Since God did not spare His only Son but gave him up for us all surely he will also with Him FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS.
NOTE THE LAST WORDS FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS.
if you are reading this on Friday after sundown you just broke the Old Covenant Sabbath law cause Sabbath rest starts on Friday night to Sat, night but be of good cheer Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. Be thankful bcuz breaking the Sabbath meant death by stoning!
NotFlaking 4 months ago
@NotFlaking yeah.... but just like I said in other post and you can read them. This isn't leading people to Christ so I won't waist anymore time debating this subject. It just divides poeple just like the enemy wants. Thanks for the reply. Won't change my view though. Take care!
countrychristianboi 4 months ago
@countrychristianboi Jesus never said to give 10% countrychristianboi. Let's get our bible right.
peteorta 2 months ago
@countrychristianboi
Where did Jesus say to give 10%? And 10% of what? Jesus Himself never paid a tithe! Why would he? The tithe was on produce of the land - crops & animals! But not wood! Jesus was a carpenter; He was not subject to the tithe! The tithe was not on fish either. Four of Jesus' disciples were fishermen. They were not subject to the tithe! If Jesus and his disciples (Jews living in the 1st century) never paid a tithe, then why would a gentile Christian in the 21st century?
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@countrychristianboi This was from a practice done in the old testiment to give 10% of your earnings to the POOR and less fortunate. Now, good luck finding a Christian conservative to saying THAT in public. "No, don't give it to me, give it to the poor". Most people are just paying for an exhuberant lifestyle for a preacher. Thithng should be done with wisdom.
IamRay71 1 week ago
STOP TITHING AND YOU' LL ELIMINATE FALSE , LYING ,STEALING PASTORS AND PROPHETS. BE LIKE CHRIST. GIVE OUT OF LOVE TO THOSE WHO TRULY NEED PLEASE READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELFS THE HOLY SPIRIT IS AVAILABLE FOR OUR GUIDENCE. THANKS
Huapua 1 year ago
Tithing is the BIGGEST clue you gullible people are going to get!!
The WHOLE thing is a scam and a hoax!
You don't need a pastor, or a church or even a religion to lead a good honest moral life!
acme181169 1 year ago
If you look into the actual word (Tithe) you will see that it consits much more than jsut giving 10 percent of your income. It is also part of the Mosaic levitical(Law) If you are going to keep part of the law the bible say you must keep it all. No man can keep the law thus Jesus shed blood on calvary. Now if you want to (Give) out of a cheerful heart thats new test. The new test say God loves a cheerful giver, not a tither. God bless you all.
GospelTruth37059 1 year ago
People in the Church ARE waking up. Deception for gain is nothing new. And this manipulation carries with it a greater condemnation. Give willingly not of necessity. By the way we should not make fun of ignorance, instead pray and not glorify the flesh least you succumb to sin.
The beside the tithe the Scribes had a similar hustle.
Mark 12:40 Who devour widows' houses and to cover it up make long prayers. They will receive the heavier [sentence of] condemnation
oburns777 1 year ago
People in the Church ARE waking up. Deception for gain is nothing new. And this manipulation carries with it a greater condemnation. Give willingly not of necessity. By the way we should not make fun of ignorance, instead pray and not glorify the flesh least you succumb to sin.
The beside the tithe the Scribes had a similar hustle.
Mark 12:40 Who devour widows' houses and to cover it up make long prayers. They will receive the heavier [sentence of] condemnation
oburns777 1 year ago
The truth is that a Christian gives from the heart. If hey are giving as an offering to God and to further His kingdom then the tithe is beneficial to that person. It is about the giver and God. The church is not involved in this transaction. The fact that the churches are using the money for exorbitant purposes or for mismanaged expenses is between the pastor and God. They will be judged. I do say you are right though because the church is teaching false doctrines. This si the travesty!
adrocks31 1 year ago
Ok.. Let's stop giving anything to the Church.... And let's see what happens...
Ovaljean 1 year ago
@Ovaljean No one said anything about not giving to the church.
rpierre777 1 year ago
A LYING SPIRIT....TO TELL FOLK STOP TITHING. THE WORD SAYS WILL A MAN ROB GOD ?? ..THEY HAVE ROBBED ME WITH THEIR TITHES AND OFFERINGS ..MALACHI 3:8
THE DEVIL WILL SEND LYING SEDUCING SPIRITS TO GO AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD. PAY YOUR TITHES, NEVERRRR GIVE HEED TO LYING SPIRITS.. WHO CAN GO AGAINST GOD???.... THE LORD WILL REBUKE THE DEVOURER FOR YOUR SAKE...
thesock77 1 year ago
@thesock77 The Prophet Malachi is rebuking the Levitical priests b/c they weren't tithing according to the Mosaic Law. Also, Giving under Grace replaced tithing under the Law. Christians in the Bible did not practice tithing. The Bible NEVER commands Christians to tithe. Only ancient Israel was commanded to tithe b/c they were following the Mosaic Law.
Peace & Blessings!
YourTitheExpert 1 year ago 8
@YourTitheExpert - you are correct that the Prophet Malachi was rebuking the Levitical priests for not tithing. We need to read the Word of God in the proper context and stop "cherry-picking" the Scriptures and forming doctrine around them.
It is a dumbing down, but I tell you this, I'm paying my house payment. Those of you who become homeless by putting your mortgage in the collection plate, I wonder if your pastor will put you up until you get on your feet.
YhwhKhai 1 year ago
@YourTitheExpert Peace sista, I think what you are doing is great, but the newtestament says to give even under grace qoute:
"2Cr 9:7 NASB - Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."
So to give could be as alms or tithe though the word isn't there but to give without holding a 10% and you give what you can. would you agree?
rahim4411 11 months ago
@YourTitheExpert So to give is and was in the Old Testament and NewTestament. and I gave the verse that is clear. I also think that the idea of being under GRACE is from Paul and not from Jesus because Jesus himself said he follow the law/commadments and if anyone lead men from it will not see the kingdom of heaven. Peace Hope you understand that.
rahim4411 11 months ago
@thesock77 Tithing is not and never have been something you "pay". If you read the entire book of Malachi, you will see that they were "robbing" God by not offering proper offerings and sacrifices. (Mal 1:7) This book was directed towards the priests and was scolding them for the "improper" sacrifices and offerings they were to make with the tithes. If you look at the commandments of tithes in Lev 27, you will see just how they were "robbing" Him.
rpierre777 1 year ago
@thesock77: This issue is exactly like the traditions they were debating in the Bible such as: Should gentiles who were receiving the same Holy Ghost as the Jews now need circumcision? Or, was it okay to eat meats sacrificed to idols? Or, could women who were now saved appear in public without their head coverings?....etc.... I've read her book and I've also read the Bible in this regard. You seem steeped in religious tradition without knowing the scriptures for yourself in this regard.
ericjaynelson 1 year ago
@thesock77: When people start off referring to Malachi the 3rd chapter as their defense for tithing it proves they have been psychologically groomed to believe a lie in this regard by tele-evangelists. It's sad that most people have been brainwashed into disobeying the word of God instead of knowing the Word of God in this regard for themselves. You might consider coming down off of your religious high horse and reading Malachi the 1st chapter in order to understand the 3rd chapter in context.
ericjaynelson 1 year ago
@thesock77 Your brainwashed pal. Your religious, not a christian. 2nd peter chapter 2 describes people like you and all clergy who teach tithing.
DetoxMansion 5 months ago
@thesock77 first you have to understand what a tithe is.... its not money! its a "tenth" of your gain and most assume its money but if you read the old test you will clearly see its NOT money... Yahweh had a built in welfare system kinda, its really pretty amazing once you read it and understand it:) i was once paying a 10% religion tax as well and then i actually read the word and found the truth and left the teachings and doctrins of men which means no xmass trees as well LOL PRAISE YAHWEH:)
houseoffire72 5 months ago
@thesock77: Wow! With all due respect you should actually read the book of Malachi and stop spouting religious platitudes. The book of Malachi is not about people refusing to tithe it's about Priests who were offering tithes that were deformed on God's altar. You have no scripture references to back up what you are saying yet you dare accuse someone else of having a lying spirit. NOWHERE in the Bible did God ever command anyone to tithe money; He commanded Israel to tithe FOOD ITEMS not money.
ericjaynelson 5 months ago
@thesock77: Certainly you are aware that tithing and animal sacrifices went hand in hand! That's exactly what the book of Malachi is all about! So how can you say someone has a lying spirit when you yourself have never brought a lamb to church and then sacrificed it on a flaming altar. In other words, we are no more required to tithe under the New Testament Covenant than we are to make animal sacrifices. So how can u accuse someone else of lying when your very words are totally disingenuous???
ericjaynelson 5 months ago
@thesock77 Can you not read? Tell you what you keep doing it .THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT TELL CHRISTAINS TO TITHE, READ MATTHEW CH 21 VERSES 12 13 HEATHEN
318Con 5 months ago
@thesock77 Can you not read? Tell you what you keep doing it .THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT TELL CHRISTAINS TO TITHE, READ MATTHEW CH 21 VERSES 12 13 HEATHEN YOUNALSO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS LOL
318Con 5 months ago
@318Con Yelling at people and tossing around the word Heathen is...improper to say the least. Ephesians 4:29 - "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up that it may benefit those who listen." Secondly, the verse you gave just talked about the fig tree...so...haha no logical argument there. Watch yourself when debating.
TaterBot1000 5 months ago
@TaterBot1000 Please explain yourself matthew chapter 21 vs 12 and 13 has nothing to do with a fig tree!
318Con 4 months ago
Malachi 3:8 "Will you rob God"?
When one reads Chapters 1 and 2 of Malachi, the word "man" refers to the Levitical Priest who were robbing God!
The word Tithe and Tithing appear only 8 times in the New Testament (Matt, Luke, and Hebrew) and all these scriptures refer back to the Old Testament!
The 10% Tithe is not Biblical under the New Covernant!
Should you give? Yes!
(2 Corinthians 9:7).
Tithing; "Give to Receive" gospel; is not Biblical.
Evangelist/Educator
Drblackinstien 1 year ago
@YourTitheExpert I understand why people dont feel like your videos are not helping your comments foundation. Is it that you want them to buy the book? Listen, read Genesis 14. Christians dont tithe under the law now, but Abraham tithed to Melchizedek because of gratitude and honor to God. THIS system of tithing was born out of love. This was done almost 500 years BEFORE the law of tithing was given. Honor and gratitude for what God has and will do in our lives. FORWARD THE KINGDOM!!!
thekid26000 1 year ago
@thekid26000 Abraham's tithe was not incorporated into the New Testament. Some people overlook the FACT that Christians in the Bible didn't practice tithing. In the Christian faith, according to the Bible, honor and gratitude for God is done through Spirit-centered, free-will GIVING. And once again tithing and giving aren't the same.
Peace & Blessings!
YourTitheExpert 1 year ago 2
@thekid26000 You have to remember that what Abraham gave was not of his own. (Heb 7:4) It was what he gained from war when he went to save Lot. (Gen 14:8-16)
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 I ask that you read Gen 14:20, How is it that Abram was able to give a tenth without it being his? The verse says that Abrams enemies were delivered into his hands. That means bodies and belongings. Abram became official owner at the point of delivery. In your own words you say that Abram gained.
thekid26000 1 year ago
@thekid26000 I never said it wasn't his. He gave a tenth of what he gained, not of what he originally had with him. You have to use the entire bible to understand exactly what happened during that situation-not just that verse (unless you believe that the writer of Hebrews was wrong). You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with Hebrews 7:4 because you want to believe it was Abraham's income out of which he gave.
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 I use verses to make my point but lets move around in the bible some. How do you think Lot became so rich? Not because he was blessed but because Abram was blessing Lot. Abram was the one who was blessed. Abram in this case used his riches to bless Lot. So Abram did give of his own as he did with the preist.
thekid26000 1 year ago
@thekid26000 Well, there is nothing that shows that Lot's riches were from Abraham. Also, when Lot let Sodom, he still had all that was his. Abraham "increase" was from those whom he fought against when he "saved" Lot. So, Abraham didn't give of his own. It was of those who took Lot captive. (Gen 14:16) That's why Heb 7:4 called it "spoils". (booty, loot, or plunder taken in war; prizes won or treasures accumulated)
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 Read Gen 12:16 then read Gen 13:2, This in fact shows that Abram was very rich as stated in the bible. The bible doesnt say how Lot earned money. If you think about it, Lot had these things simply from being with Abram. Gen 13:5.
thekid26000 1 year ago
@thekid26000 "The bible doesnt say how Lot earned money."
Nor does it state how Abraham earned money. Either way, their riches weren't limited to financial. Regardless, we can't assume Lot only had because he was with Abraham.
rpierre777 1 year ago
@thekid26000 "I use verses to make my point but lets move around in the bible some."
Unfortunately, there is not verse that says giving 10% of your income is the equivalent of tithing.
rpierre777 1 year ago
@thekid26000: Abraham had already received the blessing when he tithed to Melchizedek; he did not tithe of his own wealth; he was not commanded to tithe by God; the tithe Abraham paid to Melchizedek was a one time event, nor does the Bible specify that Abraham tithed money although we have to assume he did since he was tithing from the spoils of war.
ericjaynelson 1 year ago
Listen everyone,Tithing was never a command given to the Church. This has to do with what is called, Replacement Theology. Go Google that. The Church is NOT the continuation of ancient Israel. It would be the same as Commanding Jesus to Tithe, when He is the GIVER of all things. Christians, who are the Body of Christ, are to be GIVERS in the same Spirit that Christ Himself is a GIVER. The Title is LIMITED, WHEREAS > GIVING IS WITHOUT LIMITS, AND ALSO, IT TRANSCENDS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE FLESH.
PentacostalPreacher 1 year ago
@PentacostalPreacher I like that very much. By chance, do you get to slam that sword into the faces of people outside of the internet? I would hope so because the 501c3 state owed preachers of america are overdue for some perpetual pain from God's tool box. Definately you are one who knows to fix Gods problems in his kingdom does require tools from his tool box. Keep it going and let the slices unfold
superkal2006 1 year ago
Also i would like to add that selling holy products withing a church is wrong. jesus stormed into the temple turned over the tables threw out the plates and drove out the cattle saying "Make my fthers house not a house of merchandise" So any of you people selling in the name of christ need to stop going against the direct word of jesus christ.
You would call yourself a christian yet not do what jesus himself would teach that is very aanti christian shame on the churches that do this.
ShaolinEast 1 year ago 2
@ShaolinEast Exactly! That's why I have a problem with not just selling holy products, but blessings as well. We don't have to buy blessings. Many preachers teach, "Pay/Give and you shall receive" or "Give or you won't receive". However, Jesus said, "ASK and you shall receive" (Matt 21:22; Jn 16:24)
rpierre777 1 year ago
whats funny is that most bible litterate holy ghost baptised believers in Christ who are not on some staff of some church all know the truth about tithing and agree with you.........if those ants find out they out number us by a hundred to one, we will loose our food supply........and have to get jobs........huhahahhcoughcough
superkal2006 1 year ago
Well said sister... This is meat alright - your critic is a baby and doesn't recognize meat from milk. Give that little baby some milk. Waaa, waaa.
BaldingEagle53 1 year ago
@BaldingEagle53 lol! Thank you!!
YourTitheExpert 1 year ago
Didn't really get any meat (real info) on this.
mrsdoitallable 1 year ago
@mrsdoitallable Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. I invite you to watch the other videos as well. We have a great deal of meat on the topic of tithing.
Peace & Blessings!
YourTitheExpert 1 year ago
Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
QueenEiliYAH 1 year ago
@QueenEiliYAH
You still rob God. If you calculate all tithes (at least 3) mentioned in the OT, you should pay 23% and not ten. Why do you forget offerings?
TithingStudy 1 year ago
@TithingStudy - I really dont believe GOD want your money, I believe he give it for you to live in this world you are trap in under mans law and why will GOD give you money that he want you to give back? Now I do help others with my earnings, and give my time to people that need my help. I stay in prayer all the time, Im very Spiritual and I believe the body is the church it's not a building and that is in the Bible. I bet you celebrate Chritmas and put up a tree and the Bible says NOT too.
MsCuriousCat 1 year ago
@TithingStudy - GOD DONT WANT YOUR MONEY MAN DO LOOK HOW HE'S LIVING AND YOU HAVE BILL PAST DUE Rve.
MsCuriousCat 1 year ago
@QueenEiliYAH "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree." (Gal 3:13)
Yes, some OT commandments came with curses for not obeying them, but that was before Christ. Now, in Christ, we are free from those curses.
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 - I believe YAH "GOD" do test his people, all the test he put me through he made me a stronger believer in him and no one cant tell me he's not real. I've learn to be more relax when things are not in my favor and wait on him to improve things for me. I continue to read my Bible and do my research on the Bible because I want to know for myself what he is saying and not hear it from a so call preacher. Now the curses that you are saying makes sense but I still have to research it.
MsCuriousCat 1 year ago
@MsCuriousCat Yes, He does test His people. The difference is, He no longer curses us since Christ became a curse for us. I do pray you continue in your research and stay strong in the Lord.
rpierre777 1 year ago
Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. It didnt say 10%
QueenEiliYAH 1 year ago
@QueenEiliYAH
There are many problems with this traditional Christian teaching of the Tithe.
1) When you chain us to the old Covenant, you disregard Jesus.
Galatians 5:4
You who are trying to be justified by law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.
2) Jesus told the Pharisees that they were NOT justified, that the Tithers were hypocrites for neglecting that which was more important.
3) The Tithe was FOOD, not money.
4) The promise in Malachi was to ancient Israel.
blueskunk12 1 year ago
@QueenEiliYAH
Malachi was addressed to Levites/Priests. How can you assume that storehouse is the Church. Church history proves that early Christians did not tithe!
TithingStudy 1 year ago
@TithingStudy - I dont believe in preachers anymore, they mislead people and dont help they people of the church. Ive seen preachers take money from polticians to get their memebers to vote Republican when they are a Democrat church. I never said storehouse is a church, I believe the body is the church and we need to take care of our bodies.
MsCuriousCat 1 year ago
@QueenEiliYAH "It didnt say 10%"
tithe means a tenth.
rpierre777 1 year ago
Now you can teach whatever you desire, but just ask those who have been obedient to the Word and let the Holy Spirit speak for itself.
God blesses Tithers
revpurlie 1 year ago
@revpurlie
Holy Spirit cannot teach contrary to the scriptures. Tithing was never money but it was always food/cattle ONLY from the land of Israel
TithingStudy 1 year ago
@TithingStudy well if you teach that, how can we get money from the conongregation to build our campusus' up and seat 50 thousand people a sunday
guess we will have to get our money from fema
superkal2006 1 year ago
@superkal2006 "well if you teach that, how can we get money from the conongregation to build our campusus' up and seat 50 thousand people a sunday"
For one, if we believe that God will provide for us, we won't worry about where we will get the money from. Now, we SHOULD be teaching according to what written, which is that a tithe was NOT money. Also, according to Acts 4 (beginning at vs 34), the congregations sold their possesions and THAT money was bought in to provide.
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 I was being sarcastic, and letting what truly is on the mind of non spirit led pagans with christian affiliations say in their hearts when the dust off of their bibles is disturbed and they end up hearing more that what some fancy dancing suit wearing state owned 501c3 preacher tells them
superkal2006 1 year ago
@revpurlie "God blesses Tithers"
And, He blesses non-tithers. Blessings do come with a price. However, this price was paid on the cross by Jesus when He shed his blood for you and me.
rpierre777 1 year ago
Christians have been misused by greedy pastors, this is no secret... They says there will be wolves in sheep clothing. But as for as comes to the principle of Tithing, the Old Testament is part of the New Testament. Jesus said he did come to change or destroy the law but to fulfill the law.
In Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42, Jesus acknowledged to the Pharisees that they tithed and should do so.
revpurlie 1 year ago
@revpurlie
Ok, here are my concerns with using Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42.
1) The Tithe in both verses is FOOD. "You give a tenth of your spices".
2) They were under OLD law because Jesus had not yet died and risen again.
3) Jesus told the Tithers that they had neglected more important things, "justice, mercy and faithfulness". This is something I have yet to hear in ANY Church.
4) God's blessings are not based on obedience (works), they're based on our belief in Jesus (Galatians 3:2).
blueskunk12 1 year ago
@blueskunk12 - Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
QueenEiliYAH 1 year ago
@QueenEiliYAH Notice what was listed at Matt 23:23 and Lk 11:42:
Mint, Anise, and Cummin (Mint, Rue, and Herbs). Where is money listed?
rpierre777 1 year ago
@rpierre777 - It was said that the Bible had been changed, they remove one word or add in another and fix it into their favor "the so call jews today, the Greeks and Romans. This what Im saying have been proven, keep searching on the Tube and you'll find it and a lot more. I bet you celebrate Christmas and put up a tree but GOD said NOT too. JEREMIAH 2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them
MsCuriousCat 1 year ago
@MsCuriousCat You must be a JW (or use to be) to make that assumption on the basis of this conversation. Of all the researching I've done, I have yet to come across someone who supports the claim that this verse originally had money listed other than those who attempt to prove that we are obliged to give money. And, still, they only present claims, but not facts. No reference to what older documents were reviewed to determine this. If you have access to it, please provide a link.
rpierre777 1 year ago
@revpurlie
Tithing was never money. It was food/agricultural products/cattles. Jesus was talking to Pharisees who lived under the Old Testament. Jesus also told people who were healed by Him not to tell anyone. Does that mean if we get healed we should not give a testimony?
TithingStudy 1 year ago
@revpurlie Is that why the writer of Hebrews said, "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." (vs 12) So, no, the law wasn't destroyed, it was changed. Also, if you want to tithe with you paycheck according to the law, it would only be with your first check.
rpierre777 1 year ago
If you are tithing to pleas God he is not impressed at all.
weedsintherain 2 years ago 4
ok I did not hear any scriptures saying tithing is wrong. Malicha 3:10. Says about tithing. Now the money does not go to the Pastor, it is suppose to go to the church. I study Greek and Latin and 10% is what is required. Sister the video didn't give any scripture for or against tithing or explaining what you feel tithing is.
CORNELGUILE 2 years ago
Israel tithed much more than 10%.
SolideoGloriafella 2 years ago
Where is that at? I studied it was 10% Please feel free to enlighten me.
CORNELGUILE 2 years ago
----10% every 3rd year given to the widows/fatherless.
----10% yearly given to fund ceremonial feasts in Jerusalem.
--- 10% yearly Give to the Levites.
----Farmers left the corners of fields unharvested for widows/fatherless.
----Farmers who accidently dropped food from harvest left it for poor/widows/fatherless.
Deut 26:12,
Deut 14:28,29
Numbers 18:21-24
Deuteronomy 12:11-14
Deuteronomy 14:28-29
SolideoGloriafella 2 years ago
thanks I will study and ask. 20% a week than 10 every third year. well I see why it is only 10% now No more for the Ceremonial Feast,the other 10% if you give to the poor weekly and other stuff I do not farm.. Thanks for showing me Peace Be Unto you..
CORNELGUILE 2 years ago
Well they tithed every year and on the third year for ceratain ones.
SolideoGloriafella 2 years ago
Yea so if you Tithe when you get paid you are just doing it for the year. Pastor Gino Jennings taught on tithing and why. If you get paid monthly pay monthly. You pay on your gross before taxes not net. Because people have 401k takes and alot of things that come out of their paychecks, so you are suppose to tithe on before those things came out. And if you give to the poor each week than you have paid that 10% for that year. Wow this is great...
CORNELGUILE 2 years ago
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SolideoGloriafella 2 years ago
My bad, youve got it bro...
SolideoGloriafella 2 years ago
@CORNELGUILE
The problem with what you're saying is that it is not Biblical.
The Biblical Tithe was food. It was paid only by those who grew or raised food (Lev 27:30,32). They did not pay money, in fact if they wanted to redeem their tithe, they had to add 20% to it (Lev 27:31). For example: if their tithe was worth $1000, their tithe in money was $1200.
The Bible does not say to tithe on gross or firstfruits. Firstfruits are separate from tithes. And again, we are not under Law (Romans 6:14)
blueskunk12 1 year ago
@CORNELGUILE The laws of tithing wasn't based on gross, but what you actually have. When the Israelites planted anything, they tithe on what came out the ground, not what was planted. (Deut 14:22) If they planted 50 seeds of corn, but only 40 ears grew, their tithe was 4 ears-not 5. Your gross pay is like the seeds. So, when you get your paycheck, the amount deposited in your account is what you have or what was produced. The rest of it doesn't count. (continue)
rpierre777 1 year ago
@CORNELGUILE (continue) Also, giving to the poor isn't the same as tithing because tithing was specifically for a particular group of people. And, if you wanted to use it for some other purpose or give it to someone else, it had to be redeemed. "And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof." (Lev 27:31)
rpierre777 1 year ago
In 2 Cor 8 Paul did not ask the Macedonians for a tithe. The Macedonians gave what they desired to give. They were not bound by 10% and giving it to Levites.
SolideoGloriafella 2 years ago
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CORNELGUILE 2 years ago
@SolideoGloriafella Yea Our Pastor taught us this is why you do not Pay Pastors and Ministers. Paul did not charge the church
CORNELGUILE 2 years ago
@CORNELGUILE
Even Malachi 3:10 says "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house."
Not to pay the Pastor, or to meet expenses. EVERY verse that mentions the tithe says the Tithe was food.
Matthew 23:23 says they gave a "tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin". FOOD. That was the purpose of the Tithe, to feed those who could not provide for themselves.
Giving to take care of the Church is fine. Trying to make the Bible say something it doesn't is not ok.
blueskunk12 1 year ago
@SolideoGloriafella Actually, it was based on each thing. The 10% wasn't based on the total. So, they did tithe only 10%.
rpierre777 1 year ago
Please see my video Christian Tithing: What the Bible Really Says about Tithing.
When we study the Bible, we find that none of the Christians in the Bible practiced tithing in any form or fashion.
There's nothing wrong with supporting one's church. But there is a difference between tithing and giving.
According to the Bible, tithing is a ancient Jewish religious ritual that was not carried over into New Testament Christianity.
Thanks for commenting and watching.
YourTitheExpert 2 years ago
@CORNELGUILE
I have several problems with using Malachi 3:8-12 to support the Tithe. One is that it is OLD law. We are not under OLD law.
Galatians 5:4
You who are trying to be justified by law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.
Another problem is that Malachi was written to Levites who were withholding the tenth of the tenth from the Priests.
Still another is that the Biblical Tithe was not money.
Yet another problem. There are no Levites to collect the Tithe.
blueskunk12 1 year ago
@CORNELGUILE
Please read Malachi beginning with the first chapter. The book of Malachi does not start in chapter 3:10. If you read the entire book, then you will see that God is almost exclusively talking to the dishonest priests. God is not talking to the church. Tithing in the OT was never used to fund the temple; it was ALWAYS used to feed people. Tithing was in a DIETARY form: never money.
suaved 1 year ago
@CORNELGUILE If you need a scripture that shows tithing is wrong for the Christian, consider this:
Tithing is giving 10% out of necessity of law. It was never a heart-felt act. And, there was no negotiation on what condition it was in. Now, Paul tells us, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or OF NECESSITY: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (2 Cor 9:7) (continue...)
rpierre777 1 year ago
@CORNELGUILE (continue...) He goes on to say, "And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:" (vs 8) So, receiving a blessing isn't based on giving 10%, but is connected to what you purpose to give if you have chosen to give. No one should tell you it is necessary for you to give. Also, this grace isn't for self gain (houses, cars, etc), but for you to about to every good work.
rpierre777 1 year ago
New Testament Store House = Pastor's Wallet
TithingStudy 2 years ago 8
@TithingStudy LMBO!!
FaithandReasons 2 years ago
Good stuff, as usual.
suaved 2 years ago
Thank You!!
YourTitheExpert 2 years ago
yea I've seen that video. My mouth dropped when I heard that.
Muerta06 2 years ago