Gears of War - The Gift - Episode 2 - Parable of Lag

[xeli1994x]

the guy playing is probably a noob....he sucks bad....and the lag he shows is pretty nothing special...im from germany and my bullets usually need 3-5 seconds(!) to hit even though i have dsl 16000...just shitty american host fags....but well in gears 3 i raped all those american dumbfucks...4,2 kd

[thahat]

you must have one utter suck connection m8,

or the guy that hosted on your off-host XD

must have been red-bar, in matches with that kind of lag, i leave instantly.

[Hawkisnoob]

It's Xbox Live I never lag on the PC but on the Xbox it lags 40% of the time and I am not the only one.

[hottopfade]

I think the bullet is an UE3 engine issue. Both Vegas games had the same off host bullet lag. GoW2 is a rental for me. If they fixed the multiplayer I'll buy it.

[xxode315]

that first lancer clip is shocking

[madmandragon]

This game is trash for online it's too sad.

[GameReports]

okay man if its trash how come it made millions maybe billions because people only play the online?

Second question.. why the hell did you even comment if you dont like the game?

Dumb comments and Dumb people..

[juggalosticker]

Couldn't have been said better man.

[KaayODave]

I've figured out how to beat lag with the shotty but not the sniper, so if I'm not host, just stay away from me and you'd be fine XD. ya the lag is annoying, every time I host everyone whines at me about host advantage. seriously annoying.

[Hawkisnoob]

Obviously it's an unfair advantage it might not be the players fault but it still unfair.

[mout12]

The gears of war 2 video on IGN the guy flat out tells you they're not going to fix this shit.

[Anirak1337]

Well that's disheartening. I sold my copy of gears for this reason hoping that it would be fixed in Gears 2. I will certainly check out that video on IGN.

[jlarpi]

As did I. I absolutely will not play gears2 if I have to lead my shots.

[madmandragon]

NO!!! What are you talking about mout he said that there goal is to optimized optimized optimized! So that can't even tell who host is anymore

[skywarp187]

it's funny my buddy from work is a badass on live but when he plays off line his aim sucks ass it's like xbox rewards you for not hitting the target

[xkenny29x]

for some reason gears feels laggy when I play it so that's why I play cod all the time

[muzapstar]

God bless that!

[joeldude76]

thats why i like halo 3 much better

[joeldude76]

well if you got good connection its not bad'

[muzapstar]

even if you have the best connection in the world, the host has to have a great connection too or it doesn't matter.

[ultrimo]

It's pretty cool, especially when you own the host - oh yeah!

nevertheless they're pretty much fags, ruining a game like GoW by not having lag compensation. Every good game has it!

[Bockatadi]

pretty much the reason i stopped playing. the ONLY remedy i found was playing w friends in the same area code. as soon as someone non local joined...we all took a trip to lag city. i really want to like this game. halo 3 does 4player co op..complete with large scale vehicular meyham, without any of the super slow bullet hits...ah to dream. GOW2 gets downgraded to "rental" unless this is issue is adressed.

[muzapstar]

me too. same darn thing. no client side hit detection and only game types where you sit there after dying and watch are the reasons I cannot stand playing this game. It's so sad.

[pyrocide2k6]

And Tool for the win.

[pyrocide2k6]

It's so true man. This is the reason I stopped playing Gears of War. I'd play Call of Duty 3 and have a blast, then decide to give Gears another shot and just get pissed off.

Unfortunately I don't think they'll add client-side hit detection. There was a +50 page topic on the Epic Forums about this a few months ago. Epic never responded. They just closed it.

Oh well, Halo 3 is about three weeks away.

[Anirak1337]

I'm the one who started that thread, and you're right they didn't respond.

[Bockatadi]

thanks for video, the message couldnt be clearer, at least Halo3 will perform as good as Halo2

[jarrhil]

I remember back when I first saw this,and I didn't know what 'host advantage' was until this video pointed it out. Everyone,including myself wanted CSHD. Now it seems,everyone just got used to the 'host advantage' and even compensates for it vs. a host. How the times have a changed.

[Anirak1337]

Eh, I stopped playing the game to care.

[Mercenarygt]

Good job making this video it really show's noob's that hosting their own game really make's it easier to kill other people.

[SnipeMaximus]

Excellent video! The lancer clips show it all. Proof positive that the host does have the advantage.

[Scrizam35]

the song is called parabol... but nice video this is what i have been saying. love gears but can not believe they are making all of this SHIT for pc when they cant fix this stuff...

[darksora27]

I've been noticing that the lag can change at times, with many different variations and causes. You may be nearing an enemy and your shots begin to time completely differently than they were a few moments ago, or someone joins the room and you're now jumping about when your near them. I have yet to find out a true cause.

[kikekun]

actually the lag get worster when youre very clos with the enemy

[Ravieljeff]

this is why most tournaments r not done over xbox live they r done system link so there is no lag

[iroc464]

I've noticed that the lag is all dependant on how far you are from the host combined with how chaotic it is in the room at the time. You'll always get a sweet connection to your neighbor vs someone across the coast. becuase of this, it makes lnline competition is gears a joke. LAN seems to be the only fix at the time. Plus the newest patch lowered the lag a little but added mass instablitiy and inconsistsancy. I can't even lead shots consistantly anymore. You do good work Anirak.

[Anirak1337]

Thank you, I appreciate it iroc.

[CrazyAce117]

It isn't that bad most of the time, only when hosts have crappy inzernets

[ElScorpio101]

it's never quite that bad with me but it still makes a huge difference for the host

[NInjai555]

I never new about this off host lag thing, but when i watched other vids on GAW, i noticed there was a strange amount of time between the blast of the shotgun and when the pellets actually hit the target, i guess this explains why.

[babywipes56]

i get lag like that coz i have wireless internet and it annoys the shit out of me coz all i can do is melee or chainsaw

[kaydogs]

dude! thats the exact amount of lag i get in 3 bar games, exactly. but i can only host 3 people in gears, everyone send cliffy b messages for hit detection, dont try to get on his friends list just beg for it, his gamertag is TheRealCliffyB. he could ask epic to change the lag, cos its stopping me from playing gears (best game ever made)

[xlBmanlx]

Hopefully Epic will fix the host/lag problem in the new update on April 9th

[jakle9999]

y did you switch to a diffrent game thin gears...?

[whitey245]

He wanted to show what client side hit detection does.

[yfzrider13]

U have 2 lead kinda like halo pc(the big mistake is server controled bullets)

[CannerZ]

Sadly being host doesn't give you the adentage seeing everyone is glitching..

[42adnan42]

how did u get so good

[Anirak1337]

My first video is a better display of skill.  This one isn't about skill so much as it is propaganda.

[jakle9999]

dude still u need to do one in Gears, and for the first whole vidio u were host

[Anirak1337]

What are you talking about?

And thanks whitey for recognizing why I used the other games. It frusterates me when I get messages like "MAN U SHULDA STAYED WIT DA GEARS MANG."

[jakle9999]

well he should have, alot of the players in his last movie were in the games multable times and i cant beleve that they didn't let him kill them

[Saito684]

2:07 is the best shot evar...he runs at anirak and gets shottied as soon as the animation is gonna kick in....lucky:P

[CELT1CPRED]

Good video, sad but true.

Nice job adding parabol in there. It adds a nice touch.

[vlahell]

I´m agree with you, all the time I see that shit. Go to the ranked match, preferible with just one player, you´ll be the second, with these you´ll know whos going to be the host, at the end the host 80% of the times will kill more people than the others, 90 of the times will win the host team, he has the advantage, not just him, all the team, the same shit as Halo2, go to public matches, see who´s the host, and you will find the same shit

[Taleckia2]

New idea. I don't have a video capture box so I can't do it. Have your friend run right past you, like right past an open door. Whip out your shotgun (on and off host) see if in the limited time the bullets fly out fast enough to take out your friend.

[Anirak1337]

Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't think I'm going to do another one of these types of videos for a while, at least.

[christabon]

I seem to have either great connections or no connections in my rooms. Is like im shooting marshmallows from my shottie sometimes. You walk up behind a guy stick the shotgun in his ribs and shoot, it doesnt even faze them. Y ou see the blood come out of them from the point blank shot and they dont die. Or worse you shoot and nothing comes out of the shottie but smoke!

[darktee]

wow wesker, you really are something. Did you even watch the video? or are you too blind to see reality? You probably love this game to bits, thats why your defending it. Or maybe your going through a phase where your playing really good. Trust me, when you come up against a host who is really good, you will see how bad this lag is. You'll have your head blown off before you even know it.

[Anirak1337]

Thank you. I'm sure you and I love the game just as much as wesker, but he is just close-minded whereas we are willing to accept the faults in the hopes that they will be fixed.

[darktee]

awesome video. I've been really aggravated these past couple of weeks. I've shot so many times point blank at someone, and they turn round and blow my head off. OTher times their facing the the other way, i'm shooting them, and all of a sudden i die. Great job of exposing this fault

[bloodyclaws]

see when you proof something that people deny, they start getting angry. In this case host advantage. I saw the video and you clearly demonstrated it. It is something that epic needs to fix and so thankz.

[Anirak1337]

Thank you, and I agree with your statement on the angry people. Nothing gets them more mad than when you be calm and rational about a situation when they are all up in arms about it.

[Brigadier24]

Hey one question. If you are truly 100% undoubtedly, absolutely, undeniably bad-ass... why aren't you using the chainsaw. Come on, everyone knows that is the most satisfying weapon.

[nave88]

i hate the chainsawits not even satisfying anymore because its a cheap kill.

[Brigadier24]

Pardon me, but its not cheap. It can be easily stop if you shoot at "chainsawits." It takes ! shotgun blast and then they have to wait until thae blood rectcile goes away so it can be used. It is a perfect weapon for those who like to make whiny bitches cry.

[nave88]

i dont know if youve noticed but some people just like to be pussies and wait in the sidelines, avoiding a firefight.just one press of a button and you get a kill.

[Brigadier24]

Or they run up when their enemy is too dumb to notice and you slice them in half. Thats my kinda kill. And you pussies are gonna whine about getting ambushed from around corners, then don't go near corners. Make the whiny bitches cry some more!

[nave88]

im sorry bro face it aiming takes more skill than hiding. just face it.

[Brigadier24]

What exactly do you think snipers do? They hide. They hide and wait for someone to walk into their crosshairs. They hide in bushes, behind walls, in windows. Then they shoot their unaware pray. Chainsaws do the exact same thing only alot more riskier. Because if they get seen they they're done for. they will be killed with most likely a shotgun. You can't stop a bullet. Chainsaws kill the stupid people. Snipers kill the brave people. With out the rifle they are useless.

[nave88]

they hide and aim and it takes more skill and chainsawers hide and run. hiding alone doesnt take any skill. i could hide anywhere in a map not moving and it could take people a long time to find me. so hiding doesnt take skill at all.

[Strash44]

Ha! Great video...

[OXYXOTTON111]

you actualy need to watch this vid to know theres a host advantage? just go host a room and see. but honestly ive gotten around it many times just by out playing them. but sometimes thats not enough.

[DigitalVirus]

excellent video

[KrImSoN281]

i dont mean to be rude, but if ur trying to point out that there is host advantage, then ur dead wrong, the only time that the host does have an advantage is when YOU, and i emphasize YOU, have a bad connection, and since the host is the one who sends the info to the internet andit comes back, they do go a bit faster, but only a millisecond or 2

[Nuc1earRabbit]

Do you know anything about how the internet works?

From your above statement, I'd assume absolutely NOT.

[TwiztedDezign]

Nuc1earRabbit is right. You dont know shit about the internet. Go read a book and come back later. PS: Not meant to be rude.

[COLDOG]

Sorry but what does AR and NR stand for?

[ltsnowman]

it means active realod and normal reload i take it

[V4LENT1NE]

Great demonstration dude, it is very annoying, thats why games like COD2 online are games I prefer because they may lag but they have real hit detection instead of this Gears crap. I showed a few people your video in the 360 forums on Gamespot and to a few buddies on their and its a pretty big issue that Epic need to resolve. By the way whats that song? But again great video dude, you are not complaining, just putting forward a valid issue.

[Anirak1337]

I appreciate your feedback. The song is Parabol by Tool, and is a two part song. The second part is Parabola, and is not featured in the video.

Thanks again.

[Brigadier24]

This guy is bad ass!

[Therulerofthem]

You've done a service for the gears community. Epic actually did help a lot and patched up some lag problems.

[Anirak1337]

Once again, this isn't crying, it's pleading to epic to update the game's netcode to keep up with the times.

Also your "nub," "kthx," "cyrbbay," phrases ad infinitum are getting old.

[e3fan]

Great video.

[Anirak1337]

I don't think you would appreciate it if someone made pointless insults in the comments of your videos.

[Frenzy786]

Anirak dont listen to him, great video demonstration, you showed a clear problem, a big thanks

[Anirak1337]

Thank you.

[Anirak1337]

This is hardly crying, it is a video I put a lot of time and thought into to persuade others that the game needs to be changed. Your childish remarks help the situation in no way.

[Anirak1337]

I did it to prove a point. I've gotten a lot of good feedback on it, but I am still going to go back to montages.

The other games were there to demonstrate that those handle the lag in a better way that gears (since gears doesn't handle it at all, really).

[ezmyazz]

why did you stop sniping? dude, and what the hell is with the other games? they are good games an all butstick to Gears