They claim lot's of things while only following up on some. Who knows what they will actually do in the future. Just because something isn't released on a disc at the same time as an "album" doesn't mean they won't concoct some thematic scheme connecting a bunch of tracks, yet still release them one at a time. I'm not convinced Billy can stifle his grandiose ambition enough to concentrate only on stand alone nuggets for the rest of his career.
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a single doesnt have to be a "radio single". in my old cd collection i have many rare singles. a single originally just meant that you could buy the one song on a record. sometimes the same song would be on both sides and sometime there would be a different song on the "b-side".
It's true that the word "single" seems to have become synonymous with "attempt at mainstream mega hit". Like you said, in it's purest definition, it just means a piece of media with one song, and usually another song on the "B-side". A single of course may or may not be drawn from or end up on an album of some kind. Occasionally B-sides have become surprise hits when DJ's played them on a lark (that can't happen nowadays with the radio being owned by one giant megacorporation)
They have played this song many times during their initial touring. I caught their show at the Fillmore on 7/31/2007 and they had a 34 minute version.
Billy's gettin old. We're all getting old. If you've never seen the Pumpkins, you should. They rock live. Their CD/Download doesn't compare to their live play.
I just saw them do this one live last night at the Orange Peel... I think its one of the better new songs. I do understand why its not on the album though... however I have a feeling there is ass loads of B-side Zeigeist stuff that will be released and this definitely will be on it
Think about it this way, if THIS isn't good enough to be on zeitgeist think about how insanely amazeing the songs that acually will be on it are gonna be.
While I agree that the B-sides are sometimes better. They are B-sides because the band thinks they either aren't as good or maybe don't fit as well, or probably a half dozen reason why it wouldn't make it onto the album.
As I said they sometimes get put together into another album, such as pieces iscariot
A song that didn't quite make it on the album. usually get either put into a 2ed CD or get released with singles. Back in the days of yore they would put them on the opposite side of a vinyl single, hence the name B-side
great song. this is the kinda stuff i was hoping for from them. let's hope it's released as a b-side, although it's been revealed that it won't be the b-side to tarantula :(
strange song... the guitar intro is pretty cheap. lot of repetition. eighies rock kind of dual harmonics... wtf? i generally like non-refrain songs, but this one doesn't have the necessary peak, especially for a song of 6 min length... let's hope it's the worst song of 'zeitgeist'.
It's a 18 minutes lenght song, yet it's powerful and catchy. Your opinion is certainly worthless, as this is probably the best song off an Smashing Pumpkins album ever...
I had the same outlook until I heard the full 18 minutes of it from Rock Am Ring. Killer tune when you sit through the entire thing, not just a clip of one section.
thanks for the detailed vid description m.sanchez...it's nice to know where one can get the orig source file (when it exists)...i wish the same were true for all of my favs on you tube...the aud/vid quality and file size limits should be improved on this site dramatically
Billy and Jimmy are the only old members in it. The bassist is a woman called Ginger Reyes (she's pretty the same without Iha, they had no idea that they were still going to be so fucking awesome. I honestly can't wait. Could top previous Pumpkins, for me!
*Ginger Reyes (she's pretty hawt). When people said the Pumpkins wouldn't be the same without Iha they had no idea that they were still going to be so fucking awesome. I honestly can't wait. Could top previous Pumpkins, for me!
Its a new Smashing Pumkpins. They're were not going to sound like the old sound because half the original band arent there.... but still this is incredible music. Trantuala is probably my least favorite song but they had to put a single out to appease the 14 yr old masses lol
This is BS the whole idea of bringing the SP back together is a joke. He should just focus on being solo and put SP to rest cuz its not the Pumpkins no more its like GNR : Chinese Democracy Tour
I love it that Corgan is making music again. Sure, the Pumpkins are not going to be "the same" as they used to be - but what in this life stays the same? The songs I've heard so far from this tour and the new album rock.
Someone said it's like he's 15 again, and I agree. I remember when I first bought Mellon Collie. I have that same feeling now listening to this song.
I must admit as a former pumpkin-fan they DID one of the greatest album of all time (if not THE greatest)"Siamese Dream". But as for The Pumpkins in 2007: Why? For economical reasons..? In my mind some things are just better off being left as they were. I mean, you don´t dig up the dead from their tombs just cause you love and miss them? This is just MY point of view. NO OFFENSE to anyone! =)
Goddamn it. Im so disappointed. I should have known that the 'revived smashing pumpkins' would be as lame as this. It has none of the pure magic that was gish and siamese dream. Damn it billy, leave good enough alone. This is not the Smashing Pumpkins. They fuckin rocked.
sorry for double post but i forgot to say that the best part of this clip is the very end when billy is making the guitar noises with jeff.. brilliant
hey, i went to the site to download the concert ive been to this website to download other sp concerts and now it is telling me thqt the site has been changed or removed or something.... can you help me find the rest of the concert, i checked out the other websites and im not too sure how to search or find this concert, can you help me please and thank you
its a cool jam, and i'm looking forward to more new corgan (its so far from being a real pumpkins release as of now) but have you heard a band called nine inch nails? that album and what they are doing is an entire experience and theme itself, not just a reunion....
- By YouTube standards; I can't upload anything above 10 minutes anyway so I cut it off where the quiet part starts [where billy sits down and lets Jeff play].
Link to the full song is posted under video details.
I've listened to a bunch of versions of this song over time, and this is still my favorite version. Wish I had been there to see it live!!!
morethanjustokay33 1 year ago
Just got my tickets to see them in Seoul in August. Fuckin' stoked.
ProbableFiction 1 year ago
Can't believe they played this last night, so awesome.
MuzicLyricVideoz 1 year ago
thanks
williamsworld84 1 year ago
I'd give up my firstborn for a studio version of this song.
Please Billy. Please.
audiosnag 1 year ago 3
dig the capes!
LynnTuckerStansworth 1 year ago
im not sure if anyone realizes this but FKING ULI JON ROTH PLAYS ON THIS SONG!!!!!!
hipper44 2 years ago
not here as far as I see
eatingcandy 2 years ago
Great upload, thanks for the RS link! You rock!
HeathFirelfyAi 2 years ago
the smashing pumpkins la migliore rock band degli ultimi anni e forse di sempre
soma232 2 years ago
ty dude for this rapishare stuff :D lovely song... ear it year ago many many times... hope they can arrange this for this new album also :D
the free SP album :D i´ll buy the cd also :D
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mrzerodocfan 2 years ago
I hope so much this, "Superchrist," and "G.L.O.W." all end up on an album.
TheUnknown285 2 years ago 6
great song... should be the centerpiece of the next album after zeitgeist.
VonRichter 3 years ago
billy and jimmy say they are done with albums and will only release singles for now on. so zeitgeist is the last album.
niceguydav 3 years ago
RE: niceguydav:
They claim lot's of things while only following up on some. Who knows what they will actually do in the future. Just because something isn't released on a disc at the same time as an "album" doesn't mean they won't concoct some thematic scheme connecting a bunch of tracks, yet still release them one at a time. I'm not convinced Billy can stifle his grandiose ambition enough to concentrate only on stand alone nuggets for the rest of his career.
VonRichter 3 years ago
@VonRichter lol you were so right. oceania and who knows what else may come....
niceguydav 4 months ago
New guitarist is Jeff Schroader of "The Lassie Fondation".
Bassist is Ginger Reyes and hot keyboardist is Lisa Hariton!
frankgaudet 3 years ago 2
Does anyone know who the other guitarist is?
Is that James?
Erik22224 3 years ago
I suppose the next thing you'll say is that the new bassist is D'arcy
krazyazn1011 3 years ago 3
New guitarist is Jeff Schroader of "The Lassie Fondation".
Bassist is Ginger Reyes and hot keyboardist is Lisa Hariton!
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pbh 3 years ago
This should be released officially. Such a great song.
fleurdupommier 3 years ago 4
such a cool intro to this song.mite put it on the next album!
christurkthebrave 3 years ago
why isnt this a single? seems billy has forgotten it and moved on.
niceguydav 3 years ago
This song is too long to be a single...
Singles are played on radio so they are usually go no longer than 5 minutes. That's some unspoken rule that everybody goes by.
PennyRoyaleTea 3 years ago
35 minute single.
jcrist 3 years ago
a single doesnt have to be a "radio single". in my old cd collection i have many rare singles. a single originally just meant that you could buy the one song on a record. sometimes the same song would be on both sides and sometime there would be a different song on the "b-side".
niceguydav 3 years ago 2
RE: niceguydav:
It's true that the word "single" seems to have become synonymous with "attempt at mainstream mega hit". Like you said, in it's purest definition, it just means a piece of media with one song, and usually another song on the "B-side". A single of course may or may not be drawn from or end up on an album of some kind. Occasionally B-sides have become surprise hits when DJ's played them on a lark (that can't happen nowadays with the radio being owned by one giant megacorporation)
VonRichter 3 years ago
so they only played this song at the grand rex? i heard its like 15:00 min long too...
goopi3 3 years ago
They have played this song many times during their initial touring. I caught their show at the Fillmore on 7/31/2007 and they had a 34 minute version.
bnaffas 3 years ago
i absolutely love this song.
i would be very happy if a studio version came along.
threetwentytwo 3 years ago 4
best song of the "zeitgeist era"...this song must be on a future album
probalmend 3 years ago 4
They're maybe putting it on the next album along with superchrist...
MutantCheeseburger 3 years ago
do you have the second part of the video?
lumen1012 4 years ago
Getting kinda Pink Floyd'ish here.. gonna see them live soon :)
cehas 4 years ago
reminds me of tear somehow
bleach6bleach 4 years ago
when billy started singing i got chills
Vulinex 4 years ago
Billy's gettin old. We're all getting old. If you've never seen the Pumpkins, you should. They rock live. Their CD/Download doesn't compare to their live play.
p0479 4 years ago 9
@p0479
They are amazing live. I've have seen them 9 times and will keep going! :)
thevix96 1 year ago
Is this song in any album of the Pumpkins?
santipotenciado24 4 years ago 2
not yet
warriorsng 4 years ago
love this song. wish the band would get it out there as single instead of anymore zeitgeist songs.
niceguydav 4 years ago
Gossamer full version
rapidshare.c-o-m/files/38231603/Gossamer.mp3
unknownuser8838 4 years ago
Very Pre-Gish.
Gothic Maiden.
shplog2 4 years ago 2
Gossamer is already legendary!
mrmarks65 4 years ago
I do like Zeitgeist, but their older albums, like Siamese Dream are sooo much better.
zacula13 4 years ago
mellon collie was the best album they have ever done and it is the best album anyone will ever do
GeneralWade1 4 years ago 2
How open minded.
Vathane 4 years ago
i thought so
GeneralWade1 4 years ago
wow very metallica!
billy easy now.
prashantp26 4 years ago
I saw an interview they said it averages 30 minutes live. Great stuff
sjbing65 4 years ago
sounds like maiden...
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natalinahotmommad 4 years ago
I just saw them do this one live last night at the Orange Peel... I think its one of the better new songs. I do understand why its not on the album though... however I have a feeling there is ass loads of B-side Zeigeist stuff that will be released and this definitely will be on it
Eballs84 4 years ago
Kids, stop messaging me for the song download. Here it is in mp3: [see rapidshare link under video info]
It's a 19-minute song, so be patient. ~ Midgetsanchez
midgetsanchez 4 years ago
I'm pissed that this isn't going to be on zeitgeist does anyone know where to get an audio version of the whole song?
thenextfrusciante 4 years ago
Think about it this way, if THIS isn't good enough to be on zeitgeist think about how insanely amazeing the songs that acually will be on it are gonna be.
darksean99 4 years ago
Somtimes the B-sides can be better o.O
For instance, Pisces was made mostly of B-sides.
Also, I thought the B-side for Stand Inside Your Love (Speed Kills was the name of the song) was better than half the stuff on Machina XD
dekuchan67 4 years ago
While I agree that the B-sides are sometimes better. They are B-sides because the band thinks they either aren't as good or maybe don't fit as well, or probably a half dozen reason why it wouldn't make it onto the album.
As I said they sometimes get put together into another album, such as pieces iscariot
darksean99 4 years ago
whats a b side?
petchimp 4 years ago
A song that didn't quite make it on the album. usually get either put into a 2ed CD or get released with singles. Back in the days of yore they would put them on the opposite side of a vinyl single, hence the name B-side
darksean99 4 years ago
Are you joking?
hazenzero 4 years ago
that is awesome! i cant wait to get the cd.
dmbbam08 4 years ago
great song. this is the kinda stuff i was hoping for from them. let's hope it's released as a b-side, although it's been revealed that it won't be the b-side to tarantula :(
cjtudor 4 years ago
"death from above" is the tarantula b-side.
IJUSTWANNACDVID 4 years ago
Ce morceau me fait beaucoup penser à Hummer ,rappelez-vouz le sitar en intro puis les deux guitares(3 en fait)qui se complémentent.
billyjerem 4 years ago
really guys, go check out the version from rock am ring, 18 minutes and with an incredible solo by uli roth of the scorpions! it´s just awesome!
leoncia12 4 years ago
maye it was a song designed for guitar hero
kendog235 4 years ago
jesus... fucking awesome. too much rock for these days. welcomeback Glass.
madbpkinsheadilly320 4 years ago
why worthless? opinion is subjective, so from your perspective, also your opinion is worthless.
alpenluft 4 years ago
strange song... the guitar intro is pretty cheap. lot of repetition. eighies rock kind of dual harmonics... wtf? i generally like non-refrain songs, but this one doesn't have the necessary peak, especially for a song of 6 min length... let's hope it's the worst song of 'zeitgeist'.
alpenluft 4 years ago
This is a great song in my opinion, and it's not on the cd, check your aim before you take your shot.
xefenarchmagi 4 years ago
It's a 18 minutes lenght song, yet it's powerful and catchy. Your opinion is certainly worthless, as this is probably the best song off an Smashing Pumpkins album ever...
iokanaan1984 4 years ago
I had the same outlook until I heard the full 18 minutes of it from Rock Am Ring. Killer tune when you sit through the entire thing, not just a clip of one section.
silvermachina 4 years ago
thanks for the detailed vid description m.sanchez...it's nice to know where one can get the orig source file (when it exists)...i wish the same were true for all of my favs on you tube...the aud/vid quality and file size limits should be improved on this site dramatically
thermonuclearwarfare 4 years ago
Ug, I can't believe this won't be released with the album.
tuirnb 4 years ago
iha is coming back ,,, just wait and see... after this album ... its gonna be hard not to resist...
rickingram 4 years ago
Fucking beautiful-goin to see them in asheville-hope to hear it LIVE!!
pisgahfall 4 years ago
i can't say how much i love this song. its sooo easy on the ears.
niceguydav 4 years ago
So, which members are officially in? I know Billy and Jimmy are, but I've heard mixed reviews about James.
untitlled 4 years ago
Billy and Jimmy are the only old members in it. The bassist is a woman called Ginger Reyes (she's pretty the same without Iha, they had no idea that they were still going to be so fucking awesome. I honestly can't wait. Could top previous Pumpkins, for me!
GoodNoodle 4 years ago
What the hell, that comment messed up entirely.
*Ginger Reyes (she's pretty hawt). When people said the Pumpkins wouldn't be the same without Iha they had no idea that they were still going to be so fucking awesome. I honestly can't wait. Could top previous Pumpkins, for me!
GoodNoodle 4 years ago
Cool. They look like the Kanamits from the Twilight Zone episode 'To Serve Man'
godscrack 4 years ago
I hope somebody uploads the Gossamer version from yesterday's Rockpalast! It was 24 minutes of fucking epicness in music form.
GoodNoodle 4 years ago
der auftritt wär die ganze rock am ring karte wert gewesen... das regt mich schon etwas auf :/
oimeloimel 4 years ago
Its a new Smashing Pumkpins. They're were not going to sound like the old sound because half the original band arent there.... but still this is incredible music. Trantuala is probably my least favorite song but they had to put a single out to appease the 14 yr old masses lol
thehoffa 4 years ago
This is BS the whole idea of bringing the SP back together is a joke. He should just focus on being solo and put SP to rest cuz its not the Pumpkins no more its like GNR : Chinese Democracy Tour
ushutdhellup 4 years ago
I love it that Corgan is making music again. Sure, the Pumpkins are not going to be "the same" as they used to be - but what in this life stays the same? The songs I've heard so far from this tour and the new album rock.
Someone said it's like he's 15 again, and I agree. I remember when I first bought Mellon Collie. I have that same feeling now listening to this song.
chriscobain37 4 years ago
I must admit as a former pumpkin-fan they DID one of the greatest album of all time (if not THE greatest)"Siamese Dream". But as for The Pumpkins in 2007: Why? For economical reasons..? In my mind some things are just better off being left as they were. I mean, you don´t dig up the dead from their tombs just cause you love and miss them? This is just MY point of view. NO OFFENSE to anyone! =)
Floskeknosk 4 years ago
Goddamn it. Im so disappointed. I should have known that the 'revived smashing pumpkins' would be as lame as this. It has none of the pure magic that was gish and siamese dream. Damn it billy, leave good enough alone. This is not the Smashing Pumpkins. They fuckin rocked.
canubelieve 4 years ago
You don't know anything about the Pumpkins....this album blow's away Gish, and SD. Fuck the past
JTristesse 4 years ago
u must be mad mate
druglordpk01 4 years ago
you are a raging jackass.
fullonnight 4 years ago
I can't believe they did not put this on the album, I'm already attached to that song.
bounttyhuntter 4 years ago
sorry for double post but i forgot to say that the best part of this clip is the very end when billy is making the guitar noises with jeff.. brilliant
bounttyhuntter 4 years ago
Great riff! It's a shame that this isn't on the album. It's really good!
mrgod 4 years ago
Yaaaaaaay! The Pumpykins are back! I hope they are here to stay.
tokolove 4 years ago
why are they wearing capes?
awesome song though. Im excited!
Kez828647 4 years ago
vamospumpkins! come back to argentina !
gauchosonico82 4 years ago
great song, amazing quality
stokazz 4 years ago
omg! they played this song on pinkpop for something like 20 minutes. best piece of music i ever heard!
EFridzema 4 years ago
this is absolutely beautiful. billy's voice is crystal clear too. just awesome.
thisheartisfluid 4 years ago
We need to petition for this song to be on the album not on the B-sides. lol
But what is even cooler is that if this incredible song isn't on it then that means every song on this Album has got to be even better.
I can't wait for Smashing Pumpkins to return. I'm dead to the world till...
07/07/07
DaDudeAbides 4 years ago
7/10/07
Fixed
AWM05 4 years ago
Good song.
jcsierramileo 4 years ago
Wow, it's really too bad that this is only a B-side. It's certainly good enough to be on the album.
ElitePirateUpsilon 4 years ago
fuck off emo fag!
bjthepumpkinguy 4 years ago
haha no kidding rockncock
brockadile6 4 years ago
no you dont
rocknrok 4 years ago
I SO FUCKIN' LOVE thIS SONG!!!
bjthepumpkinguy 4 years ago
hey i want to be a singer, maybe you should CHECK ME OUT SINGING IN MY SITE AND LEAVE COMMENTS. Tell me what you think.
shale 4 years ago
hey, i went to the site to download the concert ive been to this website to download other sp concerts and now it is telling me thqt the site has been changed or removed or something.... can you help me find the rest of the concert, i checked out the other websites and im not too sure how to search or find this concert, can you help me please and thank you
33markvan66 4 years ago
this song is going to be so fucking sick on the album.. i give the award for best band of 2007 to SMASHING PUMPKINS!!
bounttyhuntter 4 years ago
its a cool jam, and i'm looking forward to more new corgan (its so far from being a real pumpkins release as of now) but have you heard a band called nine inch nails? that album and what they are doing is an entire experience and theme itself, not just a reunion....
jandrox11 4 years ago
oh yah, comment isn't making sense..its in response to the one posted by bounttyhuntter (5 days ago) marked as spam
this song is going to be so fucking sick on the album.. i give the award for best band of 2007 to SMASHING PUMPKINS!!
jandrox11 4 years ago
Dude you are right!!!! SMASHING PUMPKINS RULE!!!
athensoccer18 4 years ago
Unneccesarily by who's decision?
Seanithan 4 years ago
- By YouTube standards; I can't upload anything above 10 minutes anyway so I cut it off where the quiet part starts [where billy sits down and lets Jeff play].
Link to the full song is posted under video details.
midgetsanchez 4 years ago
Link is dead. Try mediafire if you can squeeze the FLAC down below 100.
DKGerbil 4 years ago
Gotcha. Thanks for the upload
Seanithan 4 years ago
thanks dude for the links, great song, great band, can't wait for the album
SMASHING PUMPKINS LIVE ON!!
33markvan66 4 years ago
Good song
I'll get it later...
allanvendetta 4 years ago
The full version from the show is 19+ minutes of awesomeness =D
M0ngler 4 years ago
radical
slutfacelife 4 years ago
Sweet new song very middle eastern sound during the intro.
The1stFishBone 4 years ago
yeah he´s sooooo gay... billy awesome
areaux82 4 years ago
thats because your gay
sammyjenkins 4 years ago
this song reminds me of Edgar Allan Poe.
alisinan 4 years ago
Well done. Let's see some more of these.
djleech 4 years ago
definetly best vid so far, Fing owns
xendars 4 years ago
Why this isn't an A-side is beyond me...
omniculex 4 years ago
Is this a new song?
robbiejojo 4 years ago
great stuff; parts of this song remind me of "stairway to heaven"; I like how the song seems dark and uplifting at the same time
testrq1234 4 years ago
great video
jjadhesive 4 years ago
beautifully satisfied
marebear80 4 years ago
this is pure awesomeness
benski81 4 years ago