I think this also depends on the backing used for the decal. sometimes when the transfer tape is NOT paper (if it is made out of clear plastic) it will make it difficult to release. If the transfer tape is made of paper then the paper becomes soaked and will release easier. At least that's what I am led to believe.. hmm please someone tell me if I'm wrong since I am speculating. Does this work with plastic transfer tape?
If lettering is small, delicate, and or the weather is very cold, put it on dry. If it's large and a hot day put it on wet or it'll be a mass of bubbles. Application fluid is not especially necessary, we were fitting vinyls with water and a dash of cheap washing up liquid years before application fluid even came out. Please don't bother questioning this, I was fitting vinyl lettering before we even had an internet.
You don't need to worry about wetting it. Just make sure you have it level and lined up exactly where you want it. You only get 1 shot at it. The Atreyu decals are just fancy letters, right? You should have no problem... Let me know if you ever need any decals/stickers in the future. We can make anything.
@2XxGLOxX2 Being an applicator their is no difference. The only reason Vinyl is sprayed with water and a small amount of washing up liquid is to enable the vinyl to slide into position. This is especially useful when applying a shadow to already applicated lettering on the surface as its really hard to do it with the backing paper on as you cannot see correctly to space the shadow.
I'm a pro sign designer and installer -- the purpose of the "application fluid" which he uses in this video is to temporarily reduce the adhesion of the vinyl to the substrate (in this case, the window); with or without application fluid, you are virtually guaranteed to get small air bubbles in between your vinyl and your substrate, but the application fluid is specially formulated to allow the bubbles to be squeegee'd out without reducing the power of the vinyl's pressure-sensitive adhesive.
You can apply it to any clean non-porous surface, plastic, metal, glass, whatever. Even a painted wall, just need to be careful. The difference between wet and dry is the ease to remove air bubbles. The main trick is to kind of roll it down so that air gets squeezed out as you're applying it. That's what squeegying is for. When doing a regular app, or dry, it's much more difficult to get trapped air out. You'll need to take a pin or needle and actually poke holes in the material to rid the air
I think that sticker is small enough not to have to use wet installation. I didn't see the guy reposition it at all. So whats the point of the wet installiation?
Oh, and PLEASE don't use Windex. Chemicals in the Windex, or any glass cleaner for that matter, will degrade your vinyl and will not work as well as solutions designed for this application.
Yes I know a little as my family owns Rapid Tac Inc.
It appears to be Rapid Tac II that the gentleman is using to apply the graphic. If you're using the wet method, especially on automotive glass Rapid Tac II application fluid is THE way to go.
wet or dry?...depends on your ability. if you are new to fitting decals then wet method. As long as you leave them to dry well they will not come off, guaranteed. Wet method just gives you a better chance to fit them accuratley. Dry method is really for experienced fitters.
No, absolutely not. All it does is allow you to move the decal around a bit and then it's a lot easier to squeegee out the air bubbles. It'll last just as long as dry but a lot better looking.
I just tried to put on a decal, but it seems like because the application was wet, the decal wouldn't stick when the pre-mask was pulled off! Doing it dry works much better with the decal I had.
hi Salf4511....When using wet graphics and you dont have time to wait for them to dry try after fitting the vinyl wet, spray the backing tape with a slightly soapy water allow to absorb then try removing the backing tape. The soapy water releases the glue from the backing making it much easier to take the tape off.!
I do this for a living and i always use a dry application, I just leave excess application paper to position it right and lift up one side cute the back paper apply it then do the other side the same.. I never have air bubbles.. wet application just doesn't stick for me. I hate it
Great upfront video Good Job No talking or gay music Thank You!
I was wondering if i could use the wet method to apply a firebird hood decal? or even racing stripes? I have a 91 with a vette style nose and i havent decided which i want to do more yet..But as it goes get back with me Please when you find the time.!
Yes, definitely use the wet app. Will ensure you don't get any airbubbles. You can use water or just in case, put 1 drop of baby shampoo in the water. Will make sure it doesn't stick in the wrong spot, but when you squeegee it out, the vinyl will stick. Let it sit for about 5 mins after you're done squeegeeing. Good Luck!
impressive now what happen if the letters stay on the vinal when it is being peeled back an only takes some of the writing wat do you do
TheTrev72 4 months ago
I'm just starting a graphics company and need some decals. Do you have a website?
susanne1818 5 months ago
I think this also depends on the backing used for the decal. sometimes when the transfer tape is NOT paper (if it is made out of clear plastic) it will make it difficult to release. If the transfer tape is made of paper then the paper becomes soaked and will release easier. At least that's what I am led to believe.. hmm please someone tell me if I'm wrong since I am speculating. Does this work with plastic transfer tape?
RMDelete 9 months ago
Another video recommended not using windex? But Im sure windex is the best window cleaner out there? Is there a reason 2 not use it?
RustyShackelford777 10 months ago
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Thanks for your time & for the video.
KipperSarnie 1 year ago
If lettering is small, delicate, and or the weather is very cold, put it on dry. If it's large and a hot day put it on wet or it'll be a mass of bubbles. Application fluid is not especially necessary, we were fitting vinyls with water and a dash of cheap washing up liquid years before application fluid even came out. Please don't bother questioning this, I was fitting vinyl lettering before we even had an internet.
80BSY 1 year ago 7
@80BSY Agreed 100%
elitevinyldesigns 1 year ago 2
how can you tell if it is a wet or dry vinyl decal??
I bought one and i have no idea if it is a wet or dry vinyl decal
2XxGLOxX2 1 year ago
@2XxGLOxX2
It doesn't matter. You can do wet or dry. How big is it, and what is it? And is the transfer mask clear plastic or paper like shown in the video?
elitevinyldesigns 1 year ago
@elitevinyldesigns the entire decal is a 12 x 3.5in and the logo is an Atreyu ( metalcore band) logo. the transer mask is the clear plastic.
2XxGLOxX2 1 year ago
@2XxGLOxX2
You don't need to worry about wetting it. Just make sure you have it level and lined up exactly where you want it. You only get 1 shot at it. The Atreyu decals are just fancy letters, right? You should have no problem... Let me know if you ever need any decals/stickers in the future. We can make anything.
elitevinyldesigns 1 year ago
@elitevinyldesigns alright sweet! well the letters are just plain black, but have a little wallpainted look to it.
i'll keep your company in mind just in case i need another Atreyu logo decal :)
2XxGLOxX2 1 year ago
@2XxGLOxX2 Being an applicator their is no difference. The only reason Vinyl is sprayed with water and a small amount of washing up liquid is to enable the vinyl to slide into position. This is especially useful when applying a shadow to already applicated lettering on the surface as its really hard to do it with the backing paper on as you cannot see correctly to space the shadow.
StevenDoyle35 6 months ago
I'm a pro sign designer and installer -- the purpose of the "application fluid" which he uses in this video is to temporarily reduce the adhesion of the vinyl to the substrate (in this case, the window); with or without application fluid, you are virtually guaranteed to get small air bubbles in between your vinyl and your substrate, but the application fluid is specially formulated to allow the bubbles to be squeegee'd out without reducing the power of the vinyl's pressure-sensitive adhesive.
Clamwacker 1 year ago
so you spray behind the part that is not sticky?
I am confused
Nyantamashii 1 year ago
Can you just use water??? or what do you use for wet application?
erikpgmetallica 1 year ago
Thanks for the video:)
Can you also apply the decal on a plastic surface?? and what is the difference between wet or dry method??
Thx
erikpgmetallica 1 year ago
You can apply it to any clean non-porous surface, plastic, metal, glass, whatever. Even a painted wall, just need to be careful. The difference between wet and dry is the ease to remove air bubbles. The main trick is to kind of roll it down so that air gets squeezed out as you're applying it. That's what squeegying is for. When doing a regular app, or dry, it's much more difficult to get trapped air out. You'll need to take a pin or needle and actually poke holes in the material to rid the air
elitevinyldesigns 1 year ago
@elitevinyldesigns
Thanks, but can you tell me, what is en the spray-bottle? water??
erikpgmetallica 1 year ago
I think that sticker is small enough not to have to use wet installation. I didn't see the guy reposition it at all. So whats the point of the wet installiation?
HofstraSaint12 1 year ago
Oh, and PLEASE don't use Windex. Chemicals in the Windex, or any glass cleaner for that matter, will degrade your vinyl and will not work as well as solutions designed for this application.
Yes I know a little as my family owns Rapid Tac Inc.
Good luck all.
jbailey618 2 years ago
@jbailey618 Rapid Tac Application fluid is a waste of money(.) Notice the Period.
I'd say Rapid Remover is the only good product they carry that is not homemade-able water and soap works fine for considerably fewer dollars.
TheBiggestBillboard 1 year ago
@TheBiggestBillboard What type of soap do you recomend mixing with water , shampoo , dish soap , hand bar soap ?
flyingscience 1 year ago
It appears to be Rapid Tac II that the gentleman is using to apply the graphic. If you're using the wet method, especially on automotive glass Rapid Tac II application fluid is THE way to go.
jbailey618 2 years ago
wet or dry?...depends on your ability. if you are new to fitting decals then wet method. As long as you leave them to dry well they will not come off, guaranteed. Wet method just gives you a better chance to fit them accuratley. Dry method is really for experienced fitters.
UKPRINTSERVICES 2 years ago
if you add water doesnt remove the adhesive cuz i wanna put a decal on my truck but im afraid i might loose it later on which is better wet or dry
Juggalo72 2 years ago
No, absolutely not. All it does is allow you to move the decal around a bit and then it's a lot easier to squeegee out the air bubbles. It'll last just as long as dry but a lot better looking.
04R1Rules 2 years ago
i installed a decal using this wet method. it didnt have any adhesive on it, just the vinyl... im afraid i might lose it at a car wash.
mujjuman 2 years ago
if you need to use water to apply vinyl graphics then add a drop of screen wash to the water. it make fitting quite easy..!! TOP TIP
UKPRINTSERVICES 2 years ago
I just tried to put on a decal, but it seems like because the application was wet, the decal wouldn't stick when the pre-mask was pulled off! Doing it dry works much better with the decal I had.
Salf4511 2 years ago
hi Salf4511....When using wet graphics and you dont have time to wait for them to dry try after fitting the vinyl wet, spray the backing tape with a slightly soapy water allow to absorb then try removing the backing tape. The soapy water releases the glue from the backing making it much easier to take the tape off.!
UKPRINTSERVICES 2 years ago
I do this for a living and i always use a dry application, I just leave excess application paper to position it right and lift up one side cute the back paper apply it then do the other side the same.. I never have air bubbles.. wet application just doesn't stick for me. I hate it
uncleruckus84 2 years ago
Is it best to use just water or would it be better to put a little dish soap mixed with the water?
mcbobjr23 2 years ago
Great upfront video Good Job No talking or gay music Thank You!
I was wondering if i could use the wet method to apply a firebird hood decal? or even racing stripes? I have a 91 with a vette style nose and i havent decided which i want to do more yet..But as it goes get back with me Please when you find the time.!
Thanks B~9333
Belinda9333 3 years ago
Yes, definitely use the wet app. Will ensure you don't get any airbubbles. You can use water or just in case, put 1 drop of baby shampoo in the water. Will make sure it doesn't stick in the wrong spot, but when you squeegee it out, the vinyl will stick. Let it sit for about 5 mins after you're done squeegeeing. Good Luck!
elitevinyldesigns 3 years ago